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where's the link to buy this shit

>>19944106
Until launch, Livecoin is the best exchange to buy XSN. Best volume and spread for the coin and it has no KYC. I've been using it since 2018
>deposit BTC
>buy XSN
>withdraw to a private wallet immediately
No issue.

Xsn is trash. I have 2k and it’s only going lower.

>>19944987
This is the perfect time to accumulate

>>19944559
fucking this. Livecoin is good if you want to buy XSN. Get in and out like a crack house.

>>19945298
That's how I used to use Cryptopia - 0 balance standard
I've been buying XSN directly from the DEX with BTC more recently. It's painless.

$100 isn't impossible considering that ALL the fees associated will be sold for XSN on the open markets, creating artificial demand for the coin itself from people using the DEX

>>19946039
10 MNs here
Feels comfy

>>19946413
thats a pretty comfy stack anon

>>19946470
It's pretty sweet
I only had 7500 XSN initially then I started buying it around 12c. Down on that but I bought a ton at <3 cents too :D

>>19946039
Agreed.
I unironically think XSN will lead this Defi bubble that's recently popped up in the same way that ETH led the ICO bubble
>>19946413
I have a lot but I want to buy more

>>19947146
lol same :D
so cheap

I started buying up at $0.12 and bought all the way down. I was starting to lose faith but the recent developments and actually trying the new wallet and dex put myself has made me a believer no way this shit doesn’t take me to lamboland

>>19947555
Checked. How much is a suicide stack? Make it stack? Fuck you money?

>>19947555
Checked and Lambopilled

>>19947581
Anything above 3 Masternodes wich is 45k XSN(about 3k$), will make you retire in about 1-1.5 year.

I bought a the very bottom in March. Feeling COMFY AF with my 150k stack

>>19947555
>>19947644
checked and good timing
XSN is the final redpill

where the fuck do you send xsn from livecoin?
metamasku?

>>19947853
You can store XSN on Ledger, Trezor, and Xeeda wallets. X9 coded a cold-staking solution for all of them. Ledger, in particular has been taking f o r e v e r to implement it.
The qt wallet is ok. Not the fanciest wallet by any means, but it's secure and you can use it to cold stake via TPoS and cold host MNs.

>STAKENET

Cringe.

Buy VRA anon. This shit is a scam.

Just in Pic related.
>>19947980
Nigga gtfo of here with your damn shitcoin, we're talking about the next Link.

>>19947980
you literally touch wieners
>>19948099
>Binance wants to know your location
lmao
checked and kekd

>>19948099
Where do i buy????

>>19948099
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahshshhdmfmfmdk

>>19948099
It goes on, im about to cry lmfao.

>>19948227
megalel

>>19948227
he sounds like a police officer interrogating a criminal

>>19948417

>>19948099
Bwhahahaha
Shits scary as hell to them. Huge bullish signal

>>19948895
audibly kekd
>>19948899
solemnly checked

>>19948227
Holy shit are Binance trying to steal this shit??? Can they do that?

Nice! See of i can buy more masrernodes

>>19948951
Na, for this reason they developed that stuff in closed github.
Also, they can not use it as a regulated exchange.
And, they got no decentralized, 2000+ Lightning Network enabled Masternodes Network to run it.

>>19948951
You know what they cannot copy?

>100% of trading fees from the DEX goes to the MasterNodes owners

In fact if they try to copy the tech it will be even better for us cause then we can add BNB to the DEX without a sweat and suck it's MC.

Sounds promising, i think the price is low because you can only buy in literally who? Exchange .

>>19948099
Holyshit .

Tiktok noxsners

>>19948951
they stole from blocknet so theyd probably do it again
https://cryptopotato.com/binance-and-neo-accused-by-blocknet-for-stealing-info-used-to-build-binance-dex/

>>19949371
Fuck those fuckers they realise they fucked up with their DEX tech and now they trying to steal Stakenet’s as it’s light years ahead of the shit they put out

>>19949414
Binance DEX isnt even a DEX

>>19948895
Kek
>>19948099
Binance on suicide watch hahahaha

chart looks interesting...

Some breadcrumbs for the early birds.

>>19950039

>>19950052

>>19950064

>>19948099
kekd hard omg
>>19949414
I don't think X9 team would give any important info on this like Blocknet did

>>19950039
>>19950052
>>19950064
>>19950072
Kek. XSN got a mention in Nasdaq for this as far back as 2018

It's nice to see this coming along. I have 2 MNs that I bought earlier this year, and I was worried that the team seemed to be silent for several months. This definitely raises my confidence in the project.
>$100
Anon, if that happened, I'd be a multi-millionaire. There's no way that will happen. I'd be happy if it hit $1.

>>19944076
Wasn’t their DEX supposed to be released like 2 years ago kek? I used to have a baby $10k bag of this thing but sold when it perpetually declined month after month. Put it all in LINK a year and a half ago and haven’t looked back. Is the DEX a real thing this year or are we looking at another year long delay kek

>>19944076
And wtf is so revolutionary about this video? Literally looks identical to any other DEX

>>19950496
It's already live for beta testers. You can literally just ask for access on their discord server.

>>19950514
Theres nothing revolutionary lol. Plus XSN was built on Bitcoin technology and btc is going nowhere. They spend 2 years building this thing and it will be doa.

>>19950516
When’s it go live I don’t give a fuck about a beta

>>19950514
You need to look with your brain, not with your eyes.
>>19950553

Pic related.

>>19950735
It’s a DEX built on the lightning network? You realize nobody is using the Lightning network right? It’s peak transactional volume was that gay torch thing they did on Twitter. Make the case for Lightning when clearly everyone else is making a case against it

>>19949719
Binance are still trying to figure out their tech. CZ will be on the phone soon

>>19950813
"Nobody is using cars. We'll be riding horses forever."
get cuck'd

>>19950934
This is a terrible analogy, because there’s tech being developed alongside Lightning to compete lol. This is a terrible take anon kek, not a good look for XSN

>>19950496
>>19950514
>>19950558
>>19950813
you had your time CZ
shouldnt have been so mean to blocknet

>>19950488
in case you do have Telegram you may want to join this channel for more updates besides official communication: t.me/stakenetunofficial

>>19951004
https://news.bitcoin.com/lightning-network-drivechain-bitcoin-scaling/

Nobody is using Lightning anon. I dont know what to tell you. It’s centralized and has many vulnerabilities. You should probably just capitulate on your severely underwater bags. Shoulda just bought LINK a year ago like I did Kek

>>19948099
Fucking chinks trying to pull another blocknet.

>>19948099
Checked. Fuck binance, they gonna try still yo code.

>>19950735
>>19950934
>>19951004
Absolute denial. Bitcoin is like Alta Vista...yahoo...its time is over. Its had its time in the sun but soon it will be dethroned. the xsn team fucked up by being arrogant bitcoin maxi's and building their network on bitcoin tech

>>19951057
it's not centralized if Stakenets Lightning network is hosted on +2200 masternodes world wide. Anyhow for the end user it doesn't matter. All that matters is having THE FIRST ACTUAL DEX that works in REAL TIME. Fuck waiting 30 minutes for atomic swaps. fuck kyc, fuck cz

>>19951308
>Fuck kyc
Kyc will be standard. Normies want that kind of perceived security. Xsn fucked up. Dex was a 2017 meme. Not buying your bags.

>>19951057
Bitcoin's implementation of Lightning wasn't the best, but they along with many others implemented LN nonetheless and what's done is done. Development continues as usual. Additionally, Stakenet will have full interoperability with Raiden so it reaps all the benefits of wBTC and will more than likely be the definitive LINK exchange.
Be glad Stakenet improvised a solution that prevented Lightning from becoming massively centralized by all the "big players".
>>19951194
>>19951354
>angry shills come out out of the woodwork in harmony and use namecalling in desperate attempt to gain control of perception and fool no one attempt #49492
XSN is too good for your petty kindergarten fud lmao

>>19951646
Denial. Have fun losing your money.

>>19951354
>xsn fucked up
>dex was a 2017 meme
yea right. that's why CZ is shitting his pants LOL

>>19951354
>kyc bootlicker
disgusting. the "dexs are so 2017" meme means nothing when weve just barely entered the defi bubble and now everyone and their grandma is already jumping on the bandwagon
xsn is exactly where to be rn

>>19951846
I'm just spotting the obvious trends. Kyc is going to be standard. Bitcoin is old technology. No one cares about Dexs anymore except hardcore traders. Your average normie doesn't care. Even casual traders don't care.

Call me a shill all you want. Lol look at you... The same 3 people from the xsn discord coordinating your shills on here. it's so obvious you want to dump your bags lol. The xsn team deserves this since they were idiots to build on Bitcoin. Sad

>>19951800
If you want to keep going between your 3 proxies to regurgitate the word 'denial' over and over again, I won't stop you from bumping the thread. You're proven yourself unworthy of valuable time or energy so don't be surprised if you're ignored.

>>19951952
just let /biz/ accumulate anon
your fud is older than uganda knuckles

>>19951985
>>19952041
You people are toxic scammers and most of biz will see right through you except the most gullible morons. Enjoy losing your money.

>>19948951
They tried to steal from blocknet. Binance can be assholes sometimes

>>19952087
its on you to explain why its a scam (you cant)

Are you being paid for this hateful campaign?Cz or Soros?

>>19952135
More specifically...

"...Blocknet did apply to be listed on Binance’s Exchange on August 2018, submitting the standard online application. The project followed the usual procedure, which includes answering a series of simple form of questions about the team, nature of the project, target industry, etc.

These are standard non-intrusive questions that Binance asks all projects applying to be listed. However, when it came to Blocknet, apparently these standard questions were not enough to evaluate their application; Binance’s head of business development, Ashley Ouyang, had then sent an email to Blocknet with an additional application form that included more questions.

Blocknet filled out the form and responded to Ashley the very next day. Then over a month went by with no response from Binance.

The radio silence from Binance seemed suspicious to Blocknet, and they began reviewing the questions they had answered in the second application. Only then they realized how much more intrusive the questions were, which made them even more suspicious.

>Some of the many questions in the second application include information on:
>Blocknet’s interoperability infrastructure and whether they could find the code in their GitHub.
>Why Blocknet chose to build their DEX
>How Blocknet solves the domain name system problem in the blockchain
>If Binance could receive access to BlockNet’s private repository to view their latest developments

As we already mentioned, when Blocknet answered all of these questions and submitted the application, Binance cut off all communication with them and would not reply anymore.

Given that Binance announced that they would be launching their DEX on March 2018 (5 months before Blocknet’s application), some questions are raising whether or not Binance was trying to gather as much information about their competitors to help fastrack Binance DEX development process."

>>19952087
please elaborate on what's supposed to be scam here. OP shared a youtube video. and people who like the idea of a realtime-dex are welcome to watch that video or take part in testing. one doesn't need to buy a single XSN to use ANY function of the DEX.
nobody is asking you to use whatsapp either. it does have a usecase for lots of people though

>>19952464
ive been here since 2016. i remember countless retards shitting all over single digit eth and 3 cent xrp (called the first pump to >20c apr/may 2017!)
i told biz to buy cloak at 33 cents and they all laughed at me (it did a 100x within 7 months of that lmao :D)
xsn is my all in pick this cycle. i think it will pull an xrb like pump as more people are redpilled on how much better it is

>>19950813
I think you can still make the case that Bitcoin is superior in terms of first moved advantage and branding. It's almost mainstream in popular culture.

Lightning labs recently secured venture capital in the amount of 10 million dollars. It's still early in this space to say what will win ahead. I don't think it's fair to rule out the lightning network just yet.

>>19944076
>XSN
Yeah, real active anon

>>19952831
if all these alts are so much better than bitcoin for reasons x,y,z.. how come bitcoin is usually the only crypto anyone accepts other than sometimes eth, ltc, or xmr?
xsn will finally make dozens if not hudreds of these cryptos and tokens valid tender for anything priced in btc. the potential is massive :D

>>19945115
I lost 1 BTC to this bullshit. Pick a random shitcoin (anything that isnt bitcoin, for the newfags). You'll learn to not hold any eventually.

>>19953201
they are developing in private repositories to prevent Binance from a second blocknet. Go onto their discord and see #github-updates , also see t.me/stakenetunofficial for changelogs and further development/feature information

>>19951952
>Bitcoin is old technology.
2015 is calling

>>19953201
>>19944076

>>19953201
pic related

>>19953286
>being this fucking stupid

>>19953234
>It's ok if Bitcoin's still <50% of it's ATH but everything else is a shitcoin for it
Yeah, ok. Maxis should be happy to see a project that benefits Bitcoin's ecosystem and use as P2P cash as much as Stakenet does. They're of the same mold. Pic related. I'm a huge fan of Bitcoin and yet I will never understand how or why some of you get so petty about good alts.
>>19953245
This. Did you see these comments?
>>19948099
>>19948227
>>19950842
If Binance wouldn't fork it and take all the credit, John McAfee would.

>>19953942
>tfw mcafee will never make a shitty pnd fork called ghostnet :D

>>19953274
In 2008 there were concerns for scaling.

But here we are 12 years later and Bitcoin is at the top of the throne.

We need to reduce the barriers to it's adoption. The transaction time is still off putting. If Stakenet can solve this, it will be huge.

>>19954635
>>19954695
Is Agoradesk+Stakenet the final redpill?
>trade fiat for BTC P2P
>deposit BTC in a Stakenet wallet
No KYC at the fiat ramp. No KYC at the interchain DEX.

700 sat wall broken for first time in 5 months :D

>>19955449
1k is next, ideally.

>>19952786
I'm selling my weekend fun car and putting it all into this looool I'm serious

>>19955306
thats pretty based. Centralized Exchanges and the alphabet boys are going to REEEEEEEE.

>>19956720
well how are they going to farm their loosh now?!

Just finished stress-testing the DEX with several tiny LN swaps. Pic related. It's extremely easy to do.

For reference, here's how overtly complicated and involved Lightning swaps used to be back in late 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOjuSurGkLQ
Stakenet was collaborating with the LTC Foundation at the time on Litecoin's LND. They turned a very lengthy (30 min+) and technologically heavy process that required a spaghetti of wires and a reasonably intimate understanding of Linux, networking, and LN into one that is completely done in software, almost immediately, across multiple OSes for multiple coins.
Long in the making.

>>19957004
based

>>19953942
>good
>alts
pick one

>>19954635
LN already solves this. We don't need additional fucking tokens with additional fucking wallets with additional fucking nonsense.

>>19958530

BTC is compatible with lightning network but you need nodes to route payments. Stakenet is trying to better incentivize this with their master nodes in order to improve scaling.

>>19957004
Mind blown... Wow.

Why is this not listed on more exchanges?

Noones gonna post this shit so I guess I will.

We are excited to give our **first graphic introduction to our LN DEX architecture** + short point summary to go with it (below). We will be releasing more graphics, documentation, and details as we move out of testing and into production. If anyone has any questions, let us know in <#374568694690611204>, will be glad to answer and discuss

Progress is going well, we have swaps working at ~80-85% success rate, when they are 95%+ we can begin to set the launch date. We are improving, building & fixing every day, and will be preparing an announcement on the next addition/ project to add to the DEX for launch soon.

**GRAPHIC SUMMARY**

• Users connect to Stakenet wallet which gives access to a network of liquidDEX Routing HUBs (planned to be migrated and run on 2nd layer of the **XSN blockchain**)

• Through these DEX HUBs users will be able to connect and route to others executing non custodial P2P swaps

• Our DEX API allows traders, and users (via in wallet open source DeFi software) to connect to external exchanges and easily implement strategies, earn profits and provide liquidity to the DEX

>>19959298
XSN is a threat to centralized exchanges. But soon enough they will bend the knee and list XSN.

>>19958530
*ahem*
THREADLY REMINDER
>LN was poorly implemented
I don't see how Lightning will take off beyond a hobbyist phase without massively centralized interests getting involved.
>Stakenet designed an ecosystem that takes what Bitcoin implemented for LN and makes extraordinarily powerful use of it
Stakenet's solution is notable for embedding LN nodes into masternodes so the LN nodes have access to all the collateral locked in the MNs (quasi-centralized liquidity pool within a purely decentralized network). The nodes will be running 24/7 in the background atop all that liquidity to rout payments and should take very little maintenance to keep up.

It could very well solve multiple problems in the industry by meshing the gears of many underutilized together.

Lightning?
>Lack of liquidity. Not profitable enough at the individual level.
Staking?
>Inflationary. Sometimes to an extreme. Underutilized use-case outside of securing the integrity of the network.
DEXs?
>Low liquidity, low volume, paper-thin orderbooks, AND difficult to access for 99.9x% of the world.
Atomic swaps?
>A big win for DEXs but still potentially very slow depending on which coins are being swapped.
Masternodes?
>Like so many staking coins, what do they do other than secure the integrity of the network and inflate the circulating supply?

Using m a s t e r n o d e s and the collateral locked within them to power L i g h t n i n g A t o m i c S w a p s which serve as the infrastructure for what could very well become the speediest and most liquid D E X in the industry and using a conservative inflationary supply to gradually produce more m a s t e r n o d e s which, in a way, provide an opening to expand the exchange with additional servers so it doesn't hit a bottleneck. It's both genius and shocking that no one in crypto seems to even know that it exists.

All this FUD is very bullish. Grab a seat /biz/, once we take off we aren't coming back down.

>>19959888
checked

>>19959888
Very nice

>>19959888
Checked

holding well above 700 :D

>>19959888
Those digits

There is something about this. The digits, the right tech at the right time.