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Can we have another nootropics thread? There was a great one several weeks back

>> No.19896566

>>19896532
crystal meth pussy

smoke it

>> No.19896586
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19896586

What do you niggers know about lionsmane?

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>>19896566
Get the fuck out of here with that shit tweaker.

>> No.19896605

>>19896566
Checked and /thread

>> No.19896615

Just grew some Lions Mane in my shed with a DIY kit, what is the best way to prepare it?

>> No.19896616

>>19896532
L-Theanine and Ashwagandha are probably my two favs.

>> No.19896627

>>19896615
I've heard they are great fried with butter

>> No.19896632

Piracetam+Choline is great. It's the "entry level" nootropic but in my experience, it's overall the best.

Phenylpiracetam is great but you should only use it once a week at the most. Great to take before a social event.

Also consider phenibut if you have anxiety or trouble talking to girls. Will make you feel totally relaxed and have an insanely high libido. This should DEFINITELY not be taken more than once a week. High potential for addiction and apparently can have some terrible withdrawal.

Take all of the above 3 in combination (no more than once a week) and you will feel fucking awesome.

>> No.19896643

>>19896599
pussy ass

>> No.19896648

>>19896586
It's meant to be the goods. Haven't tried it but definitely want to.
But before you get into full on brain chemicals you should fix your breakfast:
Banana smoothie with: Cacao nibs, acai berries, manuka honey, peanut butter, nuts of your choice (i like almonds and walnuts) psyllium husk, cinnamon on top.
Drink one of those in the morning and you will be charging all day like you had a coffee, no caffeine required. And the psyllium husk makes you do the most wonderful solid turds.

>> No.19896726

>>19896615
What did the DIY kit consist of? I started reading into growing psilocybin-bearing mushrooms, but apparently there can be a chance that the mushrooms can still kill you or something if you don't know what you're doing, so I gave up. Wonder if it's similar with Lion's Mane

>> No.19896745

>>19896586
it works. i eat 1g twice daily of mycelium that my buddy grows in brf. started taking it because i have some autoimmune/gut issues and chronic brainfog from living in a black mold infested house. had already dialed in my diet and exercise over two years and hit a plateau, my friend recommended lions mane. noticed clearer and quicker thinking after a month, after two months i felt as close to normal as i'd been in 3 years. going on 6 months dosing like that and my head's still clear, i can learn new things again, mood is a lot more normalized (can even feel joy and positivity at times). if you dont want to (((buy it))) it's really easy to grow for pennis. 10 bucks of brf and a 20 dollar spore syringe will grow you enough to last 5 people a year. i highly recommend that anyone tey it

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>>19896643
Oh. It’s your. The failure of a father who made a thread a couple nights back asking for advice on how to quit smoking crystal. You are poisoning your body with toxic chemicals and putting permanent holes in your brain. Best advice is to take out a good life insurance policy and kill yourself in a fashion that doesn’t make it obvious so that your daughter isn’t wrecked by your drawn out demise as the male role model in her life becomes more and more of a walking corpse and bleeds everyone around him dry.

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>>19896532
Modafinil
Modafinil
Modafinil

There, solved all your nootropic problems.

Once you realise it’s not a matter of increasing intelligence but one of increasing ability to focus on a single task to the exclusion of all others does your ability to succeed multiply.

>> No.19896803

I got banned for making a similar thread because jannies are fans, in any case I bought some moda online which should come in a month or two and also just picked up an Adderall script today. I've done tons of adderall but moda is apparently better to take daily.

>> No.19896808

>>19896615
dry it, grind it into a powder and take it as you wish in a pill, smoothy or whatever else.

>> No.19896835

>>19896780
This

>> No.19896861

>>19896726
From a place called North Spore, it's basically just a cardboard box with sawdust that's been colonized by mushroom mycelium. I believe Lion's Mane doesn't have any similar but poisonous mushrooma.

>> No.19896864

Caffeine, amphetamine. Anything else is trash, placebo or a meme.

/thread

>> No.19896878

>>19896803
Was up to 40mg slow release adderall at one point and started to get high bloodpressure. Now I only really need 5-10mg of the instant release to combat fatigue. Seriously considering switching over to modafinil because I legit don’t care for the rush or the lows that adderall bring with it. I switched to instant because the slow release shit started to become a lot less predictable and it would sometimes kick midday leaving me up all night. Instant is easier to manage and since I started doing it that way I’m finding I need less and less of it.

>> No.19896970

>>19896632
Phenibut fucks with your GABA production. Anything that fucks with GABA is potentially dangerous drug. OP proceed carefully

>> No.19897048

>>19896803
You can still build up tolerance to modafinil. It's also nowhere near as effective. For me, it was good for ~5 hours, but its long half-life keeps you unable to sleep with none of the benefits. At least with adderall, after it wears off, you can go to sleep.

>> No.19897387

>>19896632
>. Great to take before a social event.
why?
Also phenibut or XANAX for a social anxiety guy?

>> No.19897406

>>19896632
>and have an insanely high libido
I have always tought SNC depressant (so Phenibut is almost like Xanax) =/= libido

>> No.19897424

>>19897387
none> You ll fuck up your life

>> No.19897443

>>19896648
>charging all day like you had a coffee
why you avoid caffeine?
Is it bad?

>> No.19897464

>>19896616
im taking this and think it wakes me up at 3am. somethinf im taking does.
b6
d
ashwaganda
mucana puriens
l theanine

>> No.19897493

>>19897443
Better to get by without it. Caffeine makes you need it to feel "normal", a high energy smoothie is a natural high with no low.
And honestly I can't recommend psyllium husk (fiber) highly enough. My turds used to be like a bunch of lazy unemployed people hanging around a bus shelter, but now they march out like a line of highly drilled marines.

>> No.19897498

>>19896803
which difference do you note between Moda and Adderal?

>> No.19897534

>>19896878
Modafinil you start to feel it after 3 hours

>> No.19897551

>>19896970
>Phenibut fucks with your GABA production
yeah but it seems less dangerous compared to Xanax

>> No.19897578

>>19897387
ive been taking between 1200 and 2400 mg of phenibut 1-3 times a week for several years, the withdrawal and dependence stuff is overblown. its great for social anxiety. just dont get in the habit of doing it on back to back days and youll be fine. assuming your body reacts to it the same way mine does.

>> No.19897617

>>19896970
>Phenibut
I have red that it has dopaminergic properties..now I get where the libido effects come from..
In fact when I take Xanny (which has no dopaminergic activity) my penis is down

>> No.19897657

>>19896970
THIS. THIS THIS. Listen to this anon.

Phenibut is an incredibly invasive drug. This shit basically mimics GABA. It can be fucking ridiculously dangerous depending on your brain chemistry. Quitting this shit cold turkey puts heroin withdrawal to shame, psychologically-wise. Do not fuck with phenibut.

I abused phenibut for 2 weeks and it absolutely, completely fucked my brain. It’s been 8 months since and i am still experiencing withdrawal symptoms.

8 MONTHS. EIGHT FUCKING MONTHS AFTER USING IT FOR 2 WEEKS. This shit was the most terrifying experience i have ever gone through in my life, you have no fucking idea. I could write a fucking book about it. Seriously use anything but phenibut. Just do nicotine or adderall instead

>> No.19897665

>>19897498
I haven't tried moda yet, still waiting for it to arrive. Adderall works but like I said I'm worried about taking it everyday because it'sbasically legal speed, also since it's a controlled substance I need to pay a fucking shrink for (((medication management consultations))). Moda seems way cheaper .

>> No.19897711

>>19897657
this is interesting to me, what exactly do you mean by "abused," like multiple grams every day?

>> No.19897717
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19897717

Fresh wild bee pollen. It has all of the nutrients your body requires and they are in perfect proportion for maximum absorbtion.

Also if you consume 30 grams per day it has shown in clinical trials to increase energy, focus, and healthy muscle gains on par with anabolic steroids.

It has anabolic and amphetamine like feels without crash or risk of negative side effects. Also if you are lacking in any part of your diet it fulfills all nutrient requirements at the 30 gram mark.

You are welcome. Pair bee pollen with fresh organic cold pressed green juices, mild cardio every other day, and 20 mins of direct sun light per day and you are going to feel God tier.

Coffee enemas for detox. Google Carson therapy for the details. I have read all of Dr. Gerson's books and this is the only way to reach maximum natural potential.

Astaxanthin is also worth looking into.

>> No.19897730

>>19897717
Gerson therapy*

He got killed by big pharma also check out DR Sebi

>> No.19897750

>>19897730
Forgot to mention LINK finna finna, shit coins a poo.

>> No.19897849

>>19897711
I ramped up the dosage way too much, way too fast. Inconsistent usage as well. Took 250mg one day, nothing happened. Took 500mg next day, nothing happened. Skipped 2 days. Next week, took 1g. Felt some effects. Next day, 1.5g. Kept doing between 1g -1.75g a day for a week.>>19897711
Max was 1.75g i think. Quit it cold turkey, and a couple of days later i literally lost my mind for months. I almost had to be admitted into a psych ward.

>> No.19897929

Where do you buy phenimbut guys?

>> No.19897976

>>19896532
I take ashwaganha and lions mane sometimes for the memes and I have no idea what Im supposed to feel (I think i just don't feel anything)

>> No.19897988

>>19897929
Don't

>> No.19898019

>>19897849
damn
thats nuts
i wonder if it was because of your particular brain chemistry or just taking it every day
i do not know

>>19897929
for me its liftmode.com

>> No.19898051

>>19897849
Ooooof. I’m sorry to hear that. But you kind of had a hand in it having such an adverse effect. Can’t really play around with these things.

>> No.19898185

>>19896970
when I take GABA it makes me really horny...
obstructive to my life 2bh

>> No.19898260

Can someone give me sleep help? I have tried everything, including no caffeine, meditation, eliminating phone use, melatonin, clean diet, regular exercise, CBD... I just don’t feel sleepy at night. I took my friends trazadone and had the best sleep of my life, woke up feeling like I never had before. My insomnia is so severe I go weeks getting only a few hours tops of sleep and it’s hard to manage.

With trazadone I quickly built a resistance and it stopped working in a couple weeks, it seems to be the case for everything else that works, only temporary relief before returning to insomnia... doctors do not help I just feel hopeless.

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>>19896532
Your Tyrant takes a pretty decent stack. Phenylpiracetam, Noopept, Coluracetam, Choline, ect.
Also naturals like shilajit and red reishi.

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>>19896632
>piracetam
Why? There are a dozen better versions that are actually absorbed. You have to eat a whole mouthful of regular piracetam instead of 150mg of phenylpiracetam.
>phenylpiracetam
>once a week
You damn pussy. I've taken it several times daily for probably five years.
>phenibut
Not a nootropic. That being said, the anti-anxiety effect would improve cognition of someone with issues like that.
>no mention of lsd
You forgot the best part of the stack, lad.
>>19896780
>modafinil
Also not a nootropic. It's a GO-pill. Fantastic for truckers and bomber pilots, and has a place in every bugout bag. Not something to be relied on daily, since it would just be covering existing problems, but amazing when SHTF.

>> No.19898386

>>19897929
if you do it multiple times a week it has the worst rebound withdrawal next to alcohol/benzos. use once or twice a week sparingly.

also I regularly smoke weed and drink kratom (5-6g) about once a week in the evening

>> No.19898421

>>19896615
sautee in the oil of your choice on medium heat for 5-8m. It's impossible to overcook mycelium.

>> No.19898434

>>19897498
Not done modafanil but I have an adderall script, I take that about once or twice a week as well. Great for concentration, recognizable euphoria, helps complete tasks. But I find it kind of screws your lateral thinking while on it (you only see the tree instead of the forest, in a way), also I get horribly sweaty (clammy) sometimes about halfway through and it completely kills my appetite. I drank a good amount on it a few weeks ago and had a mini-psychotic break before going to bed (I was literally schizo for 20 minutes, had two voices arguing in my head and intrusive thoughts, felt kinda shitty as I knew what was going on obviously).

>> No.19898493

>>19898434
Also my digits will occasionally go numb-ish as it’s a vasoconstrictor. Otherwise when I get 3 hours of sleep and have to wake up to be productive it works literal wonders. Same for studying, although sometimes I’ll be thinking a step ahead and screw something up, or again, it’ll mess with lateral thinking. I think it works for me though. I’ve been on it for a couple of years, I avoid taking it even every couple of days because it fucks people’s brains up if they take it daily and go off of it.

>> No.19898514

>>19898434
Yeah, no shit, you're taking bad stims. I don't support regular usage of modafanil without a medical condition it would treat, or a significant need (as in, it is dangerous if you get lethargic), but it's a hell of a lot better than adderal. You won't get any of those tweaker side effects from it. Fuck, Joe Rogan is essentially proof that it can be addictive, and he still doesn't seem like a tweaker.

>> No.19898610

>>19897717
>Fresh wild bee pollen
Where do you buy it?

>> No.19898637

>>19898514
I thought Rogan has never taken and despises adderall, not sure about modafanil i’d that’s why you’re referring to. I should probably look into modafanil with my doc instead of adderall, it would probably provide the same function but without the tweaker effects (although, shamefully, the euphoria in combination with the productivity is pretty nice and helps me feel more fulfilled). The downside is the side effects. I’m well aware it’s one chemical compound away from meth, although I feel I use it pretty responsibly

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>>19896970

>Psych gave me Klonopin for anxiety
>Tried to get off of it by tapering
>Even when tapering it's the absolute worst feeling on earth, like your body going through a hell simulator

Jew drugs, not even fucking once.

>> No.19898753

>>19898386
>drink kratom
how is kratom for social anxiety?

>> No.19898760

>>19898434
difference with a coffee?

>> No.19898787

>>19897578
thanks bro. But what's the difference with alcool? social anxiety related question
Because when I am drank I also don't give a shit of waht people think about me

>> No.19898800

>>19897578
If its overblown why have you taken it for 7 years?

>> No.19898834

>>19896780
modafinil actually does improve cognitive synthesis and emergent thought independent of focus. Alternating days it's like working on a team with another person who makes better use of your own experiences.

If you're an ADD spaz, it does improve focus, does not improve concentration, but does decrease the amount of time required to re-establish concentration.

If you're old, racetams actually do something. They do fuck all if you're under 30 though and the lion's mane mushrooms do something comparable for the first couple months until your body decides it wants to be old-brained again and stops them from working.

>> No.19898835

>>19896726
Home grown cubes are easy with zero health risk. Shoomery dot org forums has the best info.

>> No.19898854

>>19898355
This guy gets it, phenylpiracetam tolerance builds up quickly need to cycle it.
Sunifiram, aniracetam, noopept, choline whatever source you like just be sure to stack with your choice of nootropic.
Modafinil or Armodafinil, I tried it way back when and have ordered another lot but since Covid it has taken 30 days to get to my country and suspect it will take another 2 weeks to clear customs.

>> No.19898901

>>19897657
>Phenibut is an incredibly invasive drug. This shit basically mimics GABA
it's the same as alcool without the serotonin increasing stop acting like a megalomane
it's a light Xanax

>> No.19898902

>>19898753
Excellent but easy to take every day and potentially become dependent on. It doesn't alter cognition much, it's just relaxing. At small doses it can be stimulating, at large doses it feels a little painkiller-y. Great when combined with weed. It's excellent for social anxiety but it's easy to redose with. I've never experienced withdrawals but know someone that goes through at least 7 grams/day and he had cold sweats, irritability, trouble sleeping, the whole 9 yards. I took it daily for around a year, started off multiple times a week but liked it and didn't think it had any negative side effects. Was right for the most part. It caused me to sleep pretty heavily and sometimes miss alarms though.

>> No.19898916

>>19897657
>withdrawal symptoms
which ones?

>> No.19898920

Unironically METH is the patrician nootropic

>> No.19898945

>>19898728
what the fuck you are outliers guys... benzos are shit.. but one/one week should not mess you up normaly.. and you' supposed to feel relaxed while taking them

>> No.19898960

>>19898902
>Excellent
really?
Comparison with Phenimbut?

>> No.19898967

>>19898902
It's a nice drug though, better than pharms by a longshot if taken in moderation imo. It'll also make you not drink as much if you're on the alcohol pretty heavy, you dont need as much to drink and so you can help taper off with it if you're smart. Also helps opiate cravings if you're going/have gone down that road. Great for social anxiety. Biggest negative also is that it can kill your sex drive. ED is fairly common. Better to fuck and then take it, otherwise you turn into a low T loser. Forgot about that desu.

>> No.19898972

>>19898945

I got prescribed 1mg twice a day.

>> No.19898982

>>19896532
DXM is fun for ideas.

>> No.19899016

imagine being one of these nature loving faggots eating nature's garbage, hoping it turns you into a normal everyday normie.
You guys are cucked beyond saving and need to rope yourselves

>> No.19899048

>>19898260
try magnesium citrate

>> No.19899156

Carnivore diet and bullet proof coffee was better than fucking Adderall

>> No.19899177

>>19899016
This. Bunch of chemival addicted retards who think there's some magic limitlessnpill out there. I doubt Bezos does any of this drug addict shit

>> No.19899201

>>19898800
i take it because i like how it feels
i have probably gone at least a week or so without it from time to time and have never felt any withdrawal symptoms at all

>>19898787
yes but it kinda serves a different purpose from alcohol for me, like if i drink it is nice for a couple hours at night

but phenibut i take right before i go to sleep and then you wake up and feel GREAT and the effects last the whole next day

the empty stomach thing is very important tho, like you really shouldn't eat anything with fat or protein in it for a good 6 hours before and after taking it if you want the full effect.

>> No.19899569

Hey /biz/. I've been described as "The living erowid" and "If erowid was a person," etc, on numerous occasions. Some thoughts from a man who understands more about drugs and the mechanisms behind them than any autist should.

>>19896532
Almost NONE, and I mean absolutely NONE of the lion's mane on the market is worth a damn. That includes paul staments worthless brand. Cordyceps is better IMHO. Oriveda and Real Mushrooms are two of the few brands that aren't horse cock.

>>19896803
Be careful with adderall. I had a single week if fun (masturbation with stim dick) years ago and it... It absolutely killed my mental capacity and sleep patterns for years. It's a cloying drug. Thankfully I have self control but many do not.

>>19896566
You are a living SNL skit. Shut the fuck up you psychosis bitch.

>>19896780
Yeah, modafinil WILL build a tolerance eventually, just like weed edibles build a tolerance. It's not at the same rate, but you'll need to modulate nootropics eventually

>>19896616
L-theanine causes brain fog for the day after, and a "haze" for up to a week. Also lol tolerance.

Ashwagandha is amazing for sleep.

>>19896632
>>19897929
>>19898960
DO NOT
FUCK AROUND
WITH PHENIBUT
DO NOT
FUCK AROUND
WITH PHENIBUT
That drug is more cancerous than the communistic hellhole it came from.
>>19897387
>Xanax
When you go off of it (Assuming you take it long enough and consistently), a good description of the effects are "All of the anxiety you suppressed coming back in chunks." Truth be told Xanax might as well be a way to buy you time from your anxiety. Work out your issues.

>>19897443
Caffeine is basically nothing compared to most of what's being discussed in this thread. Even a nice sativa will be stronger if we're being honest.

>>19897498
Modafinil and addy aren't really a good comparison. Adderall makes you ZOOM in on shit, grind your teeth, give you enegy, whereas Modafinil is kinda like "Huh? Oh shit I should sleep." 1/2

>> No.19899710

>>19899569
2/2
Modafinil is much more gentle than adderall, but more pronounced than caffeine. It'll keep you awake and you'll just... stop being tired? I'm not sure how to describe it. If you need focus, adderall. If you need energy, modafinil.

>Okay, smartass, what do you take to get going in the morning and stay focused.
Weed.

>Then what do you take to relax, faggot?
Also weed.

Doesn't have to have THC, either. Terpenes are responsible for the effects you feel. There's some CBD bud out there that is absolutely incredible (CBD is kind of a gentle blanket for your mind). Personally, I'm currently taking an "indica" CBD (CBD buds come from sativa plants because they produce less THC alongside the CBD, so it's easier to meet farm bill requirements) with some CBG bud (CBG potentiates the effect of other cannabinoids and is the precursor to said cannabinoids appearing during the plant's growth. IIRC, for example, THC-A (The acid form, that's the A) comes from CBG being exposed to UV light.

I swear to christ CBG is converted to a little bit of THC when you're vaping/smoking, because some of the effects feel identical without the THC brainfog.

>>19898355
Microdosing LSD is incredible. 10 minutes of meditation a day is also incredible.

>>19898728
Whatever you do, don't let your doc put you on SSRIs as an alternative. If you think Klonopin was hell...

Also for anyone reading, don't take LSD on SSRIs.

>>19898637
Rogan is a mouth-breathing, fence-strattling faggot who will shill anything that can make him a dollar without doing research. Coincidentally he's shilled BAT, make of that what you will. Personally I like BAT and have some bags but I doubt Rogan actually understands what BAT is or how it works.

>> No.19899722

>>19896532
I miss the nootropics fiend from 2018 frens. Fucking maniac

>> No.19899738

>>19899722
Remember "take your vitamin c?"

>> No.19899793

>>19899710
>microdosing lsd
No. Not what I'm talking about. The dosage should be visible to the naked eye, at least if in crystalline form.
>>19898637
>rogan adderall
I don't really keep up on him, but if so, I agree with him. That shit is poison. He swears by Modafanil though, or a variant thereof.
>euphoria
Try oxiracetam with a mix of cdp-choline and DMAE bitartrate and niacinamide and inositol. Once comfortable with that, toss in some noopept. You'll be doing pretty good after a week most likely. If you're not noticing it during that week, try out Fascoracetam, it always seems to work on the ADHD types for some reason, and for those with high tolerances to the racetams. (Actually saw it kick in at the start of a fight between some jugalo street kid and some random punk. The JSK went from a thug stance to having a flash of revelation as the fasoracetam kicked in, and then did one of those blind kicks, spinning back kick I think it's called, and got the punk in the head. Wasn't perfectly executed or anything, but seeing a well meaning mouth breather succeed on that was pretty entertaining.)

>> No.19899831

Why are Nootropic users such unbelievable faggots?

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Anyhow. Your Tyrant here. I'm going to sponsor this thread.
Post your eth wallets for some CID (erc-20 )
>but why
Because nootropicsource needs more sales apparently.
Remember, we're at the ass end of the kali yuga and entering a hundred years of chaos. Praise Kek, stockpile your noots, and prepare for anything while making sick gains.

>> No.19899866

>>19899831
narcissism/self obsession as cope for a psychologically traumatic mid to upper middle class upbringing

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>>19899866
>narcissism/self obsession
As your Tyrant and someone who uses more nootropics than most alive... Check'd.

>> No.19899913

>>19899793
Never said you were talking about most crodosibg. But it is amazing.

>> No.19899945

>>19899835
Here, champ
0x8a6bFF3E2e80873B6D4BA05fDFC12BcEE3FFbeA3

>> No.19899959

>>19899913
I don't know why, but the more LSD I take, the more money I make. It's equivalent. I don't know why though, because after a few mg, even with copious nootropics, nothing looks the same yet is still somehow recognizable. The disturbing part is that things can be recognized.