/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19823533
replies to this thread will be your % g/l on monday. Red or green ID determines direction

First for cute anime cunny.

>>19823533
rona coming back stores closing again how bad is stock gonna be kill?

GNUS to .25

>>19823579
How is the US so bad at this, Europe’s reopening and got R0 below one for a while now. Is it because everyone is rioting and looting

>>19823579
sounds bullish to me tbhfam

I hate the weekend. I just want to watch a line go up and down all day

>>19823604
It's the rioting and the fact that none here believe in science on either side of the aisle.
Americans are pretty fucking retarded I'm actually 100% confident it's why this country is so strong. It's full-on retard strength.

>>19823571
Quite based!
>>19823579
Stocks like to climb a wall of worry, haven’t you heard?
>>19823533
Give it to me straight, OP.
Did you buy any fantastic stocks this week? And did you hold them over the weekend?

>>19823626
It’s a paradox that most Americans don’t believe in science yet America is the worlds tech leader

Morning anons. I’ve decided to go back to university. I’ll have the opportunity to take out 0% student loans. I was thinking of living with my parents for the first year regardless, and thought I might invest these loans in stocks or etfs. But I feel like that can go wrong and make me a debt slave.

Should I just avoid all the risks and focus on obtaining my education ? And then focus on investing once I have an actually decent paying job ? I think I’ll obsess too much on investing if I start now. Thoughts ?

>>19823627
>Did you buy any fantastic stocks this week? And did you hold them over the weekend?
I bought two. Both leaf stocks. Real Matters, a real estate related tech company. And CCL.B, a consumer packaging and label company. Real Matters fell a bit after my entry and I may need to cheese it out of that thing if there's index headwinds starting next week. CCL.B looks to be in decent shape. They're both good companies and both beat most recent earnings but these are swings, not long hodls.

>>19823604
America's death count is absurdly low per capita.

Another friendly shill for WKHS

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/workhorse-nikola-investment-undervalued-hedge-195845321.html

>>19823663
Then why are they considering shutting stores again, this is going backwards

>>19823673
Because orange man bad.

>>19823625
I use the weekends to sleep off the exhaustion of the other 5 days.

>>19823664
Hhhhhnnnnnngh

>Being able to write cc for stocks like MA with two weeks out and comfy 2% premiums
Comfy and profitable. I love it.

>>19823626
America is an empire in decline everybody sees it. Trump didn't help

applying for jobs makes me want to invest in ROPE

>>19823699
Maybe we'll make it after all fren

why is yahoo finance so good bros

>>19823713
For years I’ve really wanted to move to america and become a citizen but after seeing all this it just puts me off. But I suppose it’s probably blissful in rural areas

>>19823713
Every President since Reagan has been facilitating the decline. It's amazing what happens when you have someone in charge of a country that doesn't want to pillage it.

>>19823604
>>19823626
I think it has more to do with our toxic individualist/libertarian culture.

>>19823741
tell me what do you like about america and i'll tell you where you could go

Can someone give me a quick rundown on the etfs that are designed for tracking various things.

>overall market movement upwards
(Eg etf goes up when market goes up)

>overall market movement downwards
(Eg the etf goes up when market goes down)

>others i have no clue about

>>19823751
The right to bear arms huge mountain ranges Opportunity to make a good living if you work hard. Hot America women with thick accents

>>19823741
America is pretty great if you love by this simple rule:

The more niggers in the area, the shittier the area in every aspect.

If you live in an area with caucasian and asians as the majority of the population it's pretty awesome.

>>19823713
Empires collapse when you have internal and external pressures. There are no steppe hordes in Mexico and no Chinese gun boats steaming up Georgia to enforce the meth trade.
The US is still the biggest economy on the planet, has the most innovative companies and dictates the worlds culture.
Its language and currency are number 1.

That said, we will slowly see the world becoming one.
Same standard of living, same culture, same policies, same technology. Europe and the US will lose their advantages over time. At the end its the biggest countries that will rule. EU, USA, China, India.

Remember to accumulate:

BEST
JD
NIO
KTOV
EVOK

I will keep reminding. I was right about BYFC. Btw, keep an eye on that as well. There may be another spike in Monday.

>>19823770
>opportunity to make a good living if you work hard.
Idk about that

>>19823756

I gotcha senpai:


https://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+are+etfs+in+stocks

Cruise lines are going to get thrown a bone soon.

>>19823756
>https://www.proshares.com/funds/geared/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMInv3GxcPh6QIVg4vICh2zwwbaEAAYASABEgLbA_D_BwE
>https://www.direxion.com/hedge/
all the ones you really need

>>19823673

anything to 'hurt' the emperor

>>19823770
>Opportunity to make a good living if you work hard
LMAO

>>19823661
I seeeeee sounds good.
I usually go for long hodl type stocks but that could be holding back gains. Swinging it probably better.
I gotta learn some of dat TA or TPO.

>>19823744
You’re making it sound like that doesn’t include Reagan. It should. Actually you might want to go two presidents back and start with Nixon. That motherfucker basically caused the mess that volcker had to solve under the Carter administration. A lot of dumb shit can be traced back to Nixon.

But Reagan’s trickle-down Economics was straight retard tier bullshit, his war on drugs was stupid and misguided, and closing the mental hospitals made every city in America notably worse. Fuck Reagan.

>>19823800
only bad news on the horizon for cruiselines anon

>>19823788
Run down on all of them? Good price points to buy at?

>>19823756
>Can someone give me a quick rundown on the etfs that are designed for tracking various things.
Thats like asking for a quick rundown on guns on /k/.
There are more than a million.

>>19823821
He should’ve asked a much simpler question like “is coffee good for you?”

>>19823816
Is that not the case in the US anymore. That’s even true over here in Europe I just thought it was even easier to get paid in the states

>>19823770
Probably the northern states such as North Dakota meets all that criteria.

Oil is pretty big out there, but with the oil downturn just working hard probably won't get you great income since grunt work isn't available at this time.

You'll likely need an American degree to make good money.

With a degree you'll pretty much always have a fairly decent standard of living regardless of the state in America. Best investment I've ever made...well that an onaholes

>>19823820

EVOK and KTOV are pharma stocks releasing new drugs

BEST is a freight and transportation company which Alibaba owns 33% of. JD is a giant online retailer and NIO is a Chinese Tesla. The Chinese stocks have excellent projections, look them up.

>>19823604
Yeah Americans aren't generally obedient sheeple like Europoors lmao

>>19823817
He had shit policies, but at least we were still trying to beat the Soviet Union rather than shipping them our manufacturing sector and having our tech companies facilitate their regime.

Buy CLF

>>19823550
Jesus

>>19823858
Europeans have order and conformity in their blood. It’s a blessing and a curse

Am I gonna make it

>>19823800
Cruise lines have enough cash to stay afloat for a year with no income.

Carnival is even selling older ships for extra money. They'll be fine.

>>19823887
>long ass calls
ngmi

>>19823887

Needs more SSL

Accumulate:

MRO
SSL
CLF
GRPN
REFR
GOGO
KTOV

I will buy spy at 300. that seems a reasonable level for me. For long term tho

>>19823550
I have some puts for Monday and a shit load of calls for Friday. What’s it going to be

>>19823887
>Pennyshits
Anon for the love of god

>>19823897

Those contracts I paid .72 cents for I listed them already for 2.50 lol

>>19823858
>>>19823604
>Yeah Americans aren't generally obedient sheeple like Europoors lmao

Nah, it's just niggers can't read or follow directions. That's why they keep getting shot by cops and they're the most affected by best girl Coronita-chan

>>19823900

I like SSL

Hopefully it dips to 6

>>19823909

Which one of those stocks is a penny shit? I only put $250 in KTOV anon

REFR closed at 4.5 year high today

everytime I follow you faggots advice on stock picks I lose money and when I ignore you I miss out. With that being said I'm wagering my entire account on >>19823788. I split my cash evenly to market buy orders at open on this kind mans suggestions. See you at the lambo meet up /biz/

>>19823818
I understand why you might think that. Remember this post, you'll see soon enough.

Man these calls are looking oretty grim rn, i hope this shit starts to bounce by the end of next week or im toast

>>19823924
Theyre all pennystocks m8

>>19823734
Cuz you’re retarded

>>19823949
>listening to BYFC shill

Prepare to lose more money

>>19823953
>Fractional shares
Disgusting

>Investing into joggers

>>19823533

gonna leave this here

Coming monday is going to be black monday.
Friday selloffs continuing

>>19823973
even worse, he's dripping the msft div lol

>>19823953

>Fractional shares

>>19823949

>Buying nigger owned pump and dumps

>>19823788
I need BYFC to spike to break even and also BBGI but that seems to be sort of recovering on its own. Can you shill BBGI too? thanks

>>19823533
Why are jogger stocks going up?

>>19823985

Even if they shut down 100% of the country(which they won't) for Coronita-chan it won't dip as bad anywhere as it did back in March.

There's business models in place to continue through curve side, to go and revamped websites for online ordering.

The reason everything went to hell the first time its because there was no data, plans or government money pump to work with.

>>19823992
I actually need to go into my broker setting to purchase less than 100 shares of anything
No idea how you can live with 1.45 shares
>>19824012
Stop trading pennies
Reeee

>>19823953
Why is your phone so damn long

>>19824030

The lockdown wasnt long enough to be honest.
Now in addition to these fking nigger lives matters sojkeks this virus had plenty of space to spread around.
Second Lockdown imminent.
Oh boy Exxon and Shell quarter results gonna be freaking bloody as hell.

>>19824035
>Doesnt have snek phone
Ngmi

You can scroll screenshots on your phone so they cover the whole page

>>19824048
I think the protests were the final solution to the nigger problem desu

Some looting, burnt buildings and corporate America larping the pandering of niggers is worth if it means the end of niggers.

>>19824048
People with shitty innate immune systems were the first to get infected and the most likely to die. Now the death rate will gradually lessen as the virus only has people with stronger and stronger innate immune systems to jump to, until we get a good therapeutic for adaptive immune systems. The virus is going to continue to taper while the media continues to gaslight as hard as possible. This will become increasingly obvious in about a month to six weeks.

>>19824048
Who invests in oil in 2020 anyways?
Its an industry at its peak, long term decline is assured.

>>19824033
>Stop trading pennies

>have $10k
>go all in on $0.50 stock
>stock raises $0.05
>you gain $1,000
why can't I just get to 10k already I shoulda went all in on BYFC thursday fml

>>19824012
>>19824033
Sill a cute. CUTE!

>>19823664
>reddit hasn't caught on yet
buying 50k of wkhs on monday then. this shit will moon to $50 for no reason at all just like nikola.

Good LORD have you guys seen how high DIX is? Is this the highest since 2015 :OO

>>19824118
10k USD are already two stacks of AMD to sell covered calls on. Which is probably around 200 dollars a week, not even accounting for the gains from the stock going up.

Thats your rent. Paid for by AMD.

Why wasn't BYFC put on RH top movers list. It's a conspiracy to keep black owned stocks down

>>19824137
Noted. Last time it was this high the post-corona dip turned in to the mega bounce.

>>19824175
You're a fool if you held that garbage over the weekend. Also, top movers lists usually have a minimum market cap threshold so it's not all smol caps populating the list every day with their twitching.

>>19823798
I rarely click 4chan links.

>>19823802
Looked up one of the two manually thanks for giving me a general idea on where to look.

Question as I'm still new with these kinds of etfs. I hear its bad to hold them long term. Is there a reason for that? For example I see some that were lower 2 weeks ago than they are now. Wouldnt that mean theyee safe to hold depending on what your goal is? Eg you suspect something within the next 2 weeks but rather than trying to time you just buy now. Would that be dumb?

>>19823857
Thanks. They all seem sketchy id probably have to look into it myself.

>>19824229
>Question as I'm still new with these kinds of etfs. I hear its bad to hold them long term.

oh my fucking god where the fuck did you even hear this most retarded shit i've ever read about anything market on the entire internet in all my existence

>>19823831
Is it?

>>19823626
>I'm convinced it's full-on retard strength
kek

Anyone mind if I ask a silly question. Do most of you trade by your phone or computer?

What do you guys think of NSPR, it seems like its undervalued, has had huge insider buying recently. Just need a good news and it should pump easy.

Ktov chads do you know if a PR is coming on monday or will it be a few days after?

need an anime to fill my weekend and after hours with

>>19823756
The only two ETFs that matter are SOXL (face it semiconductors are crack anon) and TVIX. SOXL for when the market is cruising up and TVIX for when shit hits the fan (it 24x'd in March during the rapid downturn).

>>19824277

>>19824012
>tfw still hodl my bags of BYFC

How fucked am I

>>19824229
>I hear its bad to hold them long term
most etfs are just fine for long term holds except for short or inverse etfs, which in general are for short term speculation.
if you do buy those, have an exit strategy and set stop losses so you dont end up like the SQQQ or TVIX bagholders you see here

>>19823973
>>19823992

Fuck off faggots i buy fractional shares when i plan on accumulating soon.

>>19823788
>I was right about BYFC.
did you go in before the pump? how did you know?
did you shill it here? damn

>>19823953
How do you fuck up that bad? All you had to do was buy SPY calls

>>19824303
Doesn‘t answer my question

i might give up normal trading and just buy meme stocks. +1, +2% is boring AF

i need 100% gains

What am I supposed to do on weekends this is boring

How fucked am I looking for a payout and only willing to invest like 1 to 2k?

>>19824175
>Why wasn't BYFC put on RH top movers list. It's a conspiracy to keep black owned stocks down
Use this shit instead

>>19824347
have a live i guess
idk either

>>19824283
Tubi has a fuckton.
Otherwise I recommend Ben-to.
That was fun as heck.

>>19824395
>Tubi has a fuckton
havent considered this, i downloaded tubi a few months ago to stream a movie that wasnt on any other service and i was too lazy to pirate it, thanks for the rec

>>19824324
I got in at the 4.50 premarket price and got out around $6 on the pump. BYFC was painfully obvious if you were paying any attention and I usually don't

>>19824327
wish I had that much money to begin with

>>19824441
Would you believe it if I told you I started with $2500 in 2017? It can be done

>>19824082
>it isnt a big deal and the media will try to hype up that this virus killed everyone over 65 and all the fat and sick people
Its fine since it only killed 30% of humanity so now its cool because no one will ever become sick or old ever again so this incurable virus that antibodies only last three months tops for so you can get it four times a year is just hype in a slow news year

I own .000002 shares of BRK.A because I think it's funny.

>>19824382
>F
F

>>19824534
Was tempted to buy B then realized I could make more money other methods.

>>19824277
>>19824303
Before or after market close?

>>19824277
>>19824334

It should be on Monday
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/05/19/2035626/0/en/Kitov-to-Present-Preclinical-Data-on-NT219-at-American-Association-of-Cancer-Research-Virtual-Annual-Meeting-II.html

>>19823741
>But I suppose it’s probably blissful in rural areas

wrong, rural areas absolutely suck unless you're literally in some mountain village. Rural areas used to be largely farming based. They still are, but it's just so much worse because you have megacorporations who own most of the farmland instead of small independent family farms.

The result is that rural towns often have a few wealthy people and an entire impoverished underclass. Some of this underclass is lucky enough to find a job at a bar or restaraunt or retail store in the small town/rural area. The less lucky ones have to drive 30, 40, 50 miles one way each day to go to a bigger city where they can get an okay job that pays like 12 or $15 an hour.

That's it for a lot of rural communities. That's one reason drug usage has exploded in America. Foreigners have no idea how serious the drug problem is in America. Basically everyone except some conservative boomers do drugs. It's so high, rural areas are almost universally meth addicted areas. It's so goddamn sad. Imagine 2000s era wiggerdom combined with meth and other drug usage and this is what rural areas are in many parts of the US. I know it's not like this everywhere, but in a lot of the midwest and northeast this is how rural areas are. Serious cultural degeneration has happened. There are even meth addicted Amish people, although in general the Amish are much more put together and with it compared to non-amish rural communities

>>19824273
Computer but I'll use my phone if I need to close a position at work or on the train
>>19824382
>6k+ people bought over 5.00
oh dear :(
>>19824534
Someday I'll sell covered calls on BRK.A. Someday

>>19824641
Is this why everyone is addicted to get fentanyl

k i think i need to buy at least 100 KTOV shares now on monday

>People doing another ONTX/SNSS/FCEL with another biopenny trash
>Right now
>In this very thread
At least monday will be entertaining.

>>19824327
Oh yeah bro, I let i started out with 100k like you

Fuck off dipshit

these CEOs are probably competing to see who can get away with the most batshit BLM stunt, laughing it up

>>19824054
Today, /biz/ actually taught me something
Amazing what a 1000 dollar phone can do

>>19824452
Youre 1 out of 500 then. Most lose their money the way you trade.

That said, great job. Youre one of the best at trading here if you turned 2500 into 250k in the span of three years. Way better skills than me at least.

>>19823774
>The US is still the biggest economy on the planet, has the most innovative companies and dictates the worlds culture.

We are literally being hollowed out from the inside by Jewish Billionaires (and also many non Jewish billionaires for what it's worth)

https://www.mintpressnews.com/neocon-billionaire-paul-singer-driving-outsourcing-us-tech-jobs-israel/259147/?fbclid=IwAR13HbT5zuqORKCaG7n-KGPQnPsS34xDjg4az8_CTJ5BuszbrhMW-enUZuA

hehe i invested 10k of mummys money into cruise lines at the top :) and now its going down in the poopoo

>>19824755
>Create another position
>Fill it yourself
>Earn twice the salary
>Nobody can protest or they are racist bigots
Subarashi desu

>>19824816
That’s pretty bullish ngl

>>19824804
Well, thanks anon. It's a tough game and I wish you the best

>>19824685
Yes, people are addicted to heroin and opiates as well. Depending on the rural region in the US it's either meth heavy or heroin heavy as drug of choice. I remember I went to a wedding a couple years ago in northwestern missouri, and I was talking to these guys on the bride's side and they were talking about drugs I made a joke about shrooms and they were like, "no it's that brown, dude" and I just told them to be careful. They probably weren't even 20 or 21 years old. Kids, already doing heroin. It's so fucked. I was a drug abusing millenial, still am, but no one in my group or extended group of friends does heroin or meth. I know shittons of people who smoke weed, take psychedelics or used to, people who do coke etc. But I'm lucky to live in a city among a suburban generation of kids and most people were smart enough to stay away from that shit. I know some people from high school who OD'd. Anyway, point being, drug usage in rural areas is extremely high. Back in the 70s and 80s, drug usage was primarily a city thing. If you wanted drugs even just pot you'd often have to drive to a big city and talk to some nigger or something. That's not the case as much anymore, people in rural communities turned to drug dealing as traditional economic opportunities waned. It's honestly really bad. Non americans don't know how fucked up this country is. To me it barely feels like the same country I grew up in during the 90s

>>19824886
Youre welcome.

I just fear some new people might try to emulate that, do risky gambles and lose it all if we dont give proper context.

>>19824894
lmao americans either retarded drug addicts or fat hamburger addicts

>>19824894
As a southeastern euro it was pretty crazy driving around Mississippi and seeing tons of billboards advertising methadone clinics. And downtown San Antonio was full of tweakers scratching themselves and asking for food, money or cigs. Don't get me wrong, saw a lot of beautiful places and cool shit too. America really feels like a different world.

Everybody ready for the red week?

>>19823648
Dont invest money you can’t afford to lose. Especially woth how volatile the market is now, in my opinion you shouldn’t throw too much money at it. I mean maybe put in a few K if you can afford it for practice, but wait for a real job before going ham

>>19823953
Why do you care about 100$. Dude chill lmao.

>>19823648
>Should I just avoid all the risks and focus on obtaining my education ?
YES. right now i'm noticing how much better a stable, secure income is vs uncertain stock market gains.

also as the other said never invest money you cannot afford to lose and never EVER do it with debt

>>19825027
We will just crab from here. There is no reason to buy but also no reason to sell.

God this thread is slow

>>19825189
Nothing to do on the weekend, could trade Crypto’s but that’s homosexual

>>19825197
Can we talk about cats? It’s Caturday anon

>>19825189
Its the weekend.
And we have nothing to do

>>19824313
Do you consider tmf to be included in ETFs that are not suited for long term hold, and require the same treatment as sqqq or tvix?

Any RTX chads here?
Starting to look real good to me. might jump in

>>19825206
Yes cats are cool

>>19825265
Yes.

Should I short retail or airlines in the coming downtrend?

Spy puts, expiring December, if you want to make it.

>>19825172
>We will just crab from here.
That was my impression from the current price action but that crazy high DIX reading is curious. Market does not crab when DIX is that high. I looked through the squeeze metrics chart to find similar patterns, in particular the extreme divergence between DIX and GEX.

In recent activity, DIX went near its peak and GEX dropped towards the lower end of its range on same day on the following dates:
>April 1
>May 22
>during the dead cat on March 3 (mid range DIX peak, very low range DEX bottom)
>October 5, 2019
I can keep going but the correlation to following days S&P price action is consistent when these two data points move in this way simultaneously. Line go up some. Sometimes line go up lots, sometimes it's only a few days up before consolidation crab action.

While on the topic, the opposite scenario of GEX very high and DIX very low is an inconsistent sign of bearish reversal potential. I need to test this pattern out more but on casual glance it doesn't work as well as GEX low/DIX high. And it's all noise when both are hopping around in the middle of their ranges.

>>19825206

>>19825323
I have Jan puts on individual stocks for additional leverage

Is there somewhere where I can check Institutional shares over time?

>>19824894
how do I invest in heroin

>>19825575
Invest in the cia, they did after all start the epidemic.

Research Gary Webb for more information.

>>19823770
Alaska
The Dakotas
Wyoming
Montana
Idaho
Utah
Northern Arizona
Northern New Mexico
Certain parts of Colorado

>>19825679
plz don't mention Wyoming in public

>>19825679
Montana looks good what’s the gun laws there?

>>19825628

Why would anyone be bullish on GME? Why would you invest in an outdated business model that's on life support?

>>19823713
Yeah, too much "diversity" and leftism.

>>19823744
Reagan was tricked by dems into giving amnesty to scores of spics. That's when california became perma-blue.

>>19823770
>Hot America women
American women make the worst wifes on the planet, except maybe some jogger girls from africa. They're obese, mannish and entitled.

>>19823837
>That’s even true over here in Europe I just thought it was even easier to get paid in the states
It's more true in the states, for sure. You get to keep far more of your money, and the wages are higher. Those posters must have been seething socialist Bernouts.

>>19825800
African girls make great wives though

American Woman:

>>19824108
>falling for the electric car meme
Stupid kaguya poster.

>>19825326
>DIX

Reading about this indicator. Some bizarre assumption that short sales = people market buying because of market makers. And somehow an indication of overbought is bullish and not bearish? Maybe I just don't understand it.

>>19823713
Empire?

>>19825840
I prefer to assess these things by correlation with certain range of readings vs price action that follows. Most of the time dix and gex are not in position to say much of anything about price action, at least so far as i have been able to determine yet. They only become potentially useful at the extreme edges of their range.

>>19825830
Too old.

>>19825824
>American women make the worst wifes on the planet
>except maybe some jogger girls from africa.
Read anon.

>>19824137
>high DIX
can i have a qrd on the relevance of this fren?

tmdx anon here
recieved word today that PFE is closest to a vaccine
also i sold my tmdx at 17 again because i have the feeling small caps are gonna get raped this week.

good luck to you all.

>>19825968
It's a thing website called squeezemetrics does. Do search on that and read the documentation page on the site. I'm fiddling with it trying to figure out its value as an indicator.

SPX is crossing the 180 SMA. What does that mean?

>>19826001
Word from who? How much closer than the rest?

remember happy day

>>19824030
Couldn’t disagree with you any more. Literally the only thing that has been fine is the stock market and that’s because it’s being pumped and monitored. The damage is terrible and that’s with low interest rates, stimulus, pandemic assistance, and forbearance. Things are getting worse every week, these changes don’t happen over night. Our country is under a high dosage of painkillers that will not last forever. The government knows that most people think of the stock market and the real economy as being one in the same so that’s where the focus is. When the stock market was crashing people were freaking out, when it turned around they went back to normal, but the economy is decaying the entire time.

>>19826017
stage 3 early july, probably done by late october. can't name source without doxxing myself but they're in the pharma industry. not financial advice, don't go all in or anything yet.

>>19826035
My only issue is they are all working on a vaccine that will work only on the “outside” of the virus. Even if the vaccine works it will stop working after a few months at best...

Would you say they have had success that’s measurable and won’t need tweaking? Are they Almost at production phase? Thanks for your time anon I never go all in but honestly PFE is a strong company in general so not a bad place to have a significant position either way.

>>19826035
>vaccine in less than a year
Either bullshit or prepare for the next simian virus 40

>>19826005
thanks fren

>>19826056
I'm certainly not taking it, the timeline is absolutely ridiculous but I'm not larping kek.

>>19825968
Dark pool trading

The thing is that dark pool means nobody knows who does what. We just know something happens. Sometimes. Maybe.

>>19826056

>>19826073
read this re: dark pool

.

>>19823891
>Cruise lines have enough cash to stay afloat for a year with no income.
How are they going to maintain those ships and pay for the crews and the new parts that will maintain them?

>>19826080
german accuracy making 2 billions disappear. amazing
i made an easy 2k buying it at €20 yesterday and selling at €30. perfectly timed bottom and top for that day lol
might buy more on monday if it dips further

>>19824019
Money doesn't choose a skin color anon. Back in gold currency days, everyone was prosperous no matter the skin color is. Right now, our bills are colored, yet white people like you still think joggers aren't better than most of white people.

>>19825837
Its not just about cars. Its about everything.
Everyone is trying to move to different fuels and engines. And slowly oil will become obsolete.

Im not saying that will happen in 10 years. These companies might enjoy another good 20 year.
Im just saying buying stock of something that is sure to fizzle out is not something I would do, since the stock price cant really rise that much under these conditions.
I mean why buy RDS when you can buy MSFT? A company at its peak vs one that we may not see peak in our life time.

>>19826082
Interesting to read.
I never bothered with dark pool info and thought it was the Buffet-buying type. Its nice to learn something new.

>tfw DCfag

Why does every woman get turned off when I tell them I’m catholic and conservative? Literally happens with every woman.

>>19826082

So, it could be a change in proportion of people buying underlying shares relative to ETFs like SPY/VOO?

I'm confused anons. Do you literally need like 25k to actually make good headway with investments to stay "safe"? As i'm not sure in the grand scheme I know little 1k is to start investing?

>>19826169

Catholic church in the modern age has bad PR because reasons. Conservative "means" that you're a stick in the mud or that they've already turned into used goods/party way too hard to go back to that life.

>>19826169
Because you live in one of the most screamingly liberal cities in the entire country? And lot just any liberals, liberals with shitloads of money. There must be some dumbshit conservative congressional aides or something you can try and date right.

>>19826080
I wonder just how bad you have to fuck up in Bavaria to actually have the police intervene.
We have the same party ruling since 1950 and state, party and business are essentially the same. They all work together to get rich in some legal-ish form.
If they get ever punished its a slap ok the wrist.

They fucked up in international proportions though. If they had just scammed a bit here and there nobody would have done anything. But they got greedy and 25% of the company does not exist.
Just the scale of things is staggering

>>19826187
what amount you put into an etf or fund doesn't matter you will still beat 99.9% of posters here and 90% of retail "day traders"
the 25k is a burger thing retard limit some brokers have

>>19826082
interdasting

>>19826201
>>19826205
I can’t even larp as a liberal because my voter registration shows that I’m a republican. If anyone googles my name, they can see that where on the political aisle I stand.

>>19826187
Why would you need 25k?
Thats the day trading limit in the US. But day trading and investing are imo two completely different things.

>>19826221
>>19826232
It's possible I might be misinformed or retarded. I thought in order to make a good portion of money from stocks you'd have to have 25k or so to safely trade. But I was thinking in terms of not wanting to risk more than 1% or so?

>>19826228
I wouldn't recommend larping as a liberal. At this point what people consider to be conservative could be a sensible moderate. Hell even for some of the people who are more liberal are probably being called conservative in clown world. The women who likely get turned off by you being catholic and conservative are just looking at you at face value. You'll get a woman who'd probably follow you later.

Right now the women love the taste of freedom and power that comes with "liberal" but pretty much once it falls out of popularity you'd see them switch.

>>19825740
Lax, but I hope you like snow and dirt roads.
Oh and you may not be aware but it gets fucking cold in the Midwest. Unlike most of Europe there isn't a ton of ocean nearby to regulate the temperature year-round and there are no mountains between the Plains and the North Pole so literally Arctic weather systems regularly move down that far.
Expect -10C yearly and often lower.

>>19826257
...
Wat?

Trading, or life in general, is about risk management.
Usually risk and "making a good portion" are heavily connected. The riskier you act, the more you can earn. Or lose.
If you want to earn 1k a week doing that with 200k will involve very little risk. Doing it with 20k will involve a lot more.

>not wanting to risk more than 1% or so?
Hm?

>>19826169

That's a good thing. Leftist women are almost all mentally ill and will probably cause you trouble later. Can't you go find some Republican staffers or something?

>>19826169
>bothering with leftist thots
That's your mistake. You want her to abort your kid and cuck you?

>>19826257
>But I was thinking in terms of not wanting to risk more than 1% or so?
yes, that's recommended and what a lot of pros do. because that way you won't crash your account with a few bad trades, which obviously happens to everyone. but you can easily trade a 5k or whatever account. never heard of this 25k account size idea.

>>19826082
So is DIX predictive or what?

Shill me on why Monday won’t be the KTOV dump to its Friday pump.

Would there be a reason to buy options further than a week out if I'm always going to sell within 48 hours?

>Caring about politics
>2020
Let it go, frens.
Just resign
>>19826337
It depends on the risk though. Having 50% in AAPL is safer than having 10% in some pennyshit.
Having 100% in SPY or QQQ is essentially risk-free despite having all eggs in one basket.

>>19826323
I live in front of a prominent park in NW, where BLM regularly meets. I’m literally in the belly of the beast. All the republicans are around Capitol Hill or SW, which is too far from me. I don’t even bother using dating apps because they’re cancer.

>>19826330
I usually agree with you, but I’m just trying to get laid, fren. I asked out this one chick I saw at the park last Sunday. We went on a date this past Thursday. And we were supposed to meet up today, but she’s ghosting me. I think she got turned off when I enthusiastically told her that I saw Mike Pence in passing, and about my religious beliefs.

>>19825679
AKA 56k internet, 1 bar cell service, amazon prime packages taking 10 days, and the closest doctor is 90 minutes away if you have an emergency.

>>19826355
>Having 100% in SPY or QQQ
agreed, i would call that ivnesting and not trading, the rule doesn't apply there

>>19826353
Not really. Id adjust the strike to adjust leverage, not the date desu.

>>19826355
>Having 100% in SPY or QQQ is essentially risk-free
yeah, except the part where it erased 5~ years of gains, in just two weeks, because of a flu.

>>19826376
Fair enough.

>>19826360
>I live in front of a prominent park in NW, where BLM regularly meets. I’m literally in the belly of the beast. All the republicans are around Capitol Hill or SW, which is too far from me. I don’t even bother using dating apps because they’re cancer.

Where do you work? Don't you know anyone who can introduce you to Republican women working in the city?

>>19826360
>"Girls only cares about my political views guys, please help"
>Goes to a random girl in a park
>"DAMN TRUMP IS SO BASED AND MIKE PENCE IS A FUCKING MADLAD HAHA! NOT TO MENTION THAT IT FEELS SO GOOD BEING A CATHOLIC AND SHIT! WELL EITHER WAY YOU WANT MY NUMBER SO WE CAN GO OUT AND EAT?!"

>>19826379
Thanks, that's what I was thinking. I usually aim to buy .25 delta regardless of date anyway

>>19826385
I was talking about owning the shares, not a 30 DTE call you roll over each month.
Long term the market survived two world wars, the cold war and each and every crises.
Sniff sniff wont keep it down

>>19826389
>Don't you know anyone who can introduce you to Republican women working in the city?

Unfortunately not. I’m not exaggerating when I say of the hundreds of people I met here in DC, only one was conservative. Everyone I know, friends and colleagues, is liberal. Sometimes I wonder why the fuck I even live here.

>>19826396
What the fuck is your problem, anon? Too scared to ask out women irl?

>>19826411
It can make sense with the rapid theta decay I guess. But you wont see that much of a difference.
I mean we talk about earnings here, right? We both know this thing gets sold the next day no matter the profit or loss.

>>19826416
yup... i also put money into spy and on a 5-10 year timeframe there is no way you won't be up unless literal apocalypse

>>19826426
>Unfortunately not. I’m not exaggerating when I say of the hundreds of people I met here in DC, only one was conservative. Everyone I know, friends and colleagues, is liberal. Sometimes I wonder why the fuck I even live here.

Start attending conservative events or something. Or just move out of DC.

>>19826353
Yeah, I always buy options 60-90 days out with the intention of selling within that week. Rate of decay is very strong in the final 30 days and I got tired of trying to out pace decay AND the market.

>>19826341

Seems like a garbage indicator on its own, with multiple theories about what it means. Some people are saying short sales on dark pools are market makers facilitating buys. But then I don't understand why it is consistently under 50%. Others are saying its dominated by things like ETFs re-balancing. So if the price of an ETF goes down more than the index, this will result in short sales of stocks. The only real thing you can know is that short sales are slightly higher right now for some reason. Maybe its because long term investors in ETFs are cashing out long term profits while individual stock picking is a meme right now and are buying the dip.

Bought BA at $194... How fucked am I long term?

>>19826396
I just say Heil Hitler
>>19826441
I mean even if a single company like GOOG, BRK or V collapses money will not be my primary concern anymore.
If Coca Cola or Windows stop existing Im already out hunting for scraps probably

>>19826416
I don’t even think the March lows were real. You had a sell off coupled with a contract expiry so all the covered calls were getting uncovered on the way down and the put sellers needed cash quickly. Going into Friday we saw the opposite. The think there will be fresh bags getting offloaded in the next couple of weeks.

>>19826441
>5-10 year timeframe
you mean like how spy erased 6 years of gains, bouncing only on news of printing money, and now slowly crashing again and most likely next week will be another -5% to -10%

>>19826462
Pretty.
Aero engineers always told me how shitty Boeing was compared to Airbus. Its kept afloat by the gouvernment because of prestige, tech and military but so is GE and thats just anemic.
In normal times companies like AAL would get incentives to buy Boeing, but now there arent even planes flying
>>19826481
Who knows really? The market is now a scheme to let boomers retire. Just go with the flow.
When we crash again the Fed will start buying stocks directly like the Japs did
>>19826497
>Still being that buttblasted
Bobo. Please.

>>19826497
just look at the 10-year. no point in arguing

>>19826516
>Bobo
i'm like 95% invested in mostly spy and nasdaq with ridiculous amounts of money and fucking hate this virus bullshit retard market

>>19826533
I mean at least fridays dump wasn’t out of left field, so some logic and reason remains in an otherwise retarded market.

>>19826533
Then why complain about the market going up or doubting the long term profitability of SPY and QQQ?
Your actions and words are the complete opposite.

>>19826126
What will plastics and other petroleum derived products be made from once oil is obsolete?

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>>19826462
I know people always shill BA as a good company with its defence contracts and so on...but if it wasn't propped up by the government, on its own terms it wouldn't be so great, and imo it's overvalued as high as it is. The recent crashes and order cancellations alone should've made the price drop and stay drop.

That said, the government won't let it fail and it's very likely it'll go back to at least 250 or something. It's just not a company I'd actually hold stock in long term, because they just keep fucking up. Why not just get Airbus?

>>19826516
The fed can’t do anything else. They stopped a massive default and credit crisis which is their job, and bought the retirees three months to get out while the getting is good. Liquidity isn’t a problem, just look at all the new cars in town. The debts will be repaid, however, killing future growth.

>>19826470
You’re exaggerating. If Google collapses life goes on.

>>19826549
Wow, it's almost like it's possible to profit off of something whilst also realizing that it's complete nonsense. Not having autism is amazing

>>19826470
>>19826522

You guys obviously weren't investing in the '00s. You could have bought GM in 2000 and say if GM every went bankrupt I'm already out hunting for scraps probably! And the S&P500 didn't recover after 2000 until 12 years later really. Big companies can easily have 50%+ draw downs and still be a big presence, or go to $0 but still be around, or just go bankrupt. Companies like google are not THAT important. If google's profit got fucked and the stock tanked 90% it would still be around your life wouldn't be that different. But if you were investing in GOOG you'd have lost a lot of money.

>>19823664
>mfw I give WKHS the post office contract a week after endurance reveal

>>19826562
where were you yesterday?

>>19825847
We still haven't completely decolonized.

>>19826584
STOP I CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT

>>19826574
I can’t wait until you all-in SPY motherfuckers get wrecked by Brazil’s better than ever mutated coronavirus.

>>19826549
hard to not shit on spy etf after seeing years of gains not only disappearing but nearly going negative because of a fucking piece of shit flu and retarded traders/institutions. incredibly fucking weak. if us feds didn't do anything it would actually fucking drop to 2010 or earlier. just because boomers can't visit thailand to fuck dickgirls

>>19826627
Might come earlier than that if that Friday dump doesn’t bounce back on Monday.

>>19826426
>What the fuck is your problem, anon? Too scared to ask out women irl?
You're not suppose to talk about politics and you complain about the girls being political when you're the one bringing it up you mongoloid

>>19826567
>The fed can’t do anything else
The forbidden technique has yet to be used

>>19826561
Bioplastic
I think plastic will take way longer to replace than the cars actually.

But again. Im not saying that oil will stop being used. Im saying we are at the peak or just short of it. Its not an industry that is build to last.
>>19826573
Nah.
If GOOG goes down the rest of the American and world economy goes with it.
And BRK is essentially SPY without tech. If that goes down so will the US.
>>19826574
>Think that assets will go down "-5% to -10%" next week
>Simultaneously holds said assets
>Calls others autists
Well, you do you.
>>19826579
Fair enough. But every browser starts with Google. Google decides what you see and think. Google controls the flow of information. Google IS the internet for home users.
If Google dies, the internet died as well.

Its useless to talk about these hypothetical situations though. Im sure were both agreeing that you should diversify and certainly not put everything in once company.

>>19824108
>he thinks oil is only used for automobile fuel
Ya best start believing in an oil world, son. YOU’RE IN ONE

>>19826711
I’d imagine if GOOG went down, someone(s) would be very quick to fill that vacuum.

>>19826632
But its already back to 2019 levels. These drops are temporary. Long term the onöy way is up. The reason why SPY is so successful is because the economy can take these hits and recover.

Why even look at you stocks when you just want to hodl? Just dont watch and come back in 20 years.

>>19826697
And it won’t be. We saw the effect the stimulus had on Wall Street. It is why those fucks keep asking for another one. The fed doesn’t have to do anything else.

>>19826735
>Why even look at you stocks when you just want to hodl?
easy to say until you see your account -40% in just two weeks

You guys think Biden will forgiven student loans when he gets in? I have $29,000 left and have no problem paying it down. But if all student debt is likely to be forgiven, then I want to get some benefit.

>>19826737
What if MMs “punish” the fed by dumping on the market in high enough volumes until they get what they want?

>>19826753
No one will do that. Politicians will talk about it to get votes but they would never actually pass it as a law. It would piss off so many financial institutions.

>>19826737
Quite the opposite, the Fed will have to continually do more. Upward momentum is entirely driven by central banking intervention.

>>19826725
Fuel is actually by far the biggest thing oil is used for. The rest is peanuts. Clothing, plastics, energy, etc. dont matter too much.
>>19826732
But what would it take for GOOG to collapse?

>>19826360
Volunteer in a republican campaign/cause. I complain about not enough right wing women a lot, but what few younger right wing women there are, are usually politically involved in DC. There are actually quite a few in DC compared to other areas. Usually very pretty too.

>>19826797
>>19826725
Didnt think it was that one sided though

>>19826751
Youre already back to Nov. 19 levels
Stop whining

>>19826579
we were talking about spy though. individual stocks, sure.

>>19826810
>but what few younger right wing women there are, are usually politically involved in DC. There are actually quite a few in DC compared to other areas. Usually very pretty too.

Conservative/right-wing women tend to be hotter. Probably because they don't live life in a state of bitterness and rage at people who look better than they do.

>>19826753
>>19826771
The last few months have set the scene though

It's hard to argue against writing it off as an economic stimulus effectively giving millions an boost in the pocket to put into the economy as they're not having to repay student debt

Hard to argue against that but at the same time pro printing millions for wall street

Wouldn't be surprised if the dems at least pitch this - even if they don't follow through

>>19826820
I believe a giant like XOM is more than capable of switching to greener energy when the time comes. Shell is already doing so

>>19826820
Would be nice to seee profit percentages of all those

Thoughts on Allstate (ALL)? A lot of people are bullish on it from a value standpoint

>>19826353
If something goes wrong quickly, you have less time for it to go right.

the spy futures 1 month candles graph looks literally like that fucking "return to normal" meme picture. like it looks EXACTLY like it
go check yourselves lmao

Is the economy going to collapse or is that just a meme

>>19826847
Tell me if you find any info
>>19826841
Maybe. Id rather just invest in green energy directly though.
Not that I plan on doing so desu

>>19826849
Allstate will be paying out the ass to repair burned buildings. Then their customer base went out of business from COVID.

>>19826872
We are in a fed bubble just no idea when it's going to burst, it could be monday, it could 2021.

If you really really want to play it safe just hold cash untill next year.

>>19826785
It’s not the fed job to worry about the stock market and in my heart I truly believe they don’t.

>>19826732
Multiple smaller tech companies. Google is a conglomerate.

>>19826852
looking at it from a normal viewpoint it seems overvalued as fuck

but this isn't a normal market

>>19826832
All attractive women fuck their bosses and managers to get ahead at work. Cucking is inescapable. I had a female coworker who got herself pregnant by fucking the married boss. He hired her knowing she was a stupid whore who couldn’t do the job and could easily pressure her into being his sex toy. So she lied about being on the pill. Now she’s tenured. And she found some poor fat cuck to marry her. Poor bastard thinks the baby is his.

>>19826975
is it fun making up little stories and posting them on places where not a single fuck gives a single fuck

>>19826990
>he thinks it’s fake
The world is a very fucked up place anon.

this shit is just SPY ahahahahahahha

>>19826785
You know I really like that chart, the bear in me starts to think we will see 2200

>>19823550
Regardless of how the market goes, I'm fucked

According to my indicator, the vol spike we had last week was a bigger deal than the coronavirus selloff. Tread very carefully folks.

>>19826990
You tell me, shill. “I can’t date liberal women herr durr ....” But I’m actually telling the truth, lol.

Are the only two decent movies somewhat focused on """actual trading""" Trading Places and Wolf of Wallstreet? I hate when the movie tries to be almost totally serious and dramatic with the stock market.

>>19826915
How could you believe that when this year alone has seen the Fed creeping closer and closer to outright buying stocks to float the market?

>>19827013
ok cuck. enjoy your cuck fantasy. maybe you can find an ugly woman then and then you can be happy with your non-cuck life and ugly wife. no other way, right.

>>19825268
Yeah, I have 77 shares. I feel like I just FOMO bought though. I think theres better plays.

>>19827003
lel

>>19826849
How are they going to make money filling all the claims of cucks running businesses trying to pander to human garbage in the cities?

>>19827047
You’re a fucking jannie whos fucking locked on to my IP address. Every time I say sth here you fag out and go off on me, like I offended you. You know I can just mask my IP right?

>>19823550
No whammies
No whammies
No whammies

>>19827061
wow a schizo with a cuck fantasy ok

>>19826975

No one asked for your cuckold fantasy fiction here, fag

>>19826337
In the USA, FIRA requires if you want to be allowed to "pattern day trade" that you essentially post a bond with your broker of at least $25,000 in value. Otherwise if you participate in what they consider to be day trading without that you get put in poor people jail.

>>19827045
Most of the fed action was buying junk from the PPP is my guess. It kept money loose and the perception is that the fed action kept the markets up. What I think kept the markets up is players playing a game. It’s been a good 10 year run. No shame in going back down there.

>>19827080
You just can’t take the fact that SPY is dropping 50% on Monday. Stay pressed, bitch. Deflation is our messiah.

>>19827087
Just use a cash account if you're poor. That's what I did when I was trying to swing trade my 5k account in college lel.

a lot of good threads on /biz/ right now

>>19827100

No, I agree, I'm a bear too. Doesn't mean I want to read your latest cuckold fantasy. r/cuckold is one click away

>>19827088
>What I think kept the markets up is players playing a game
Can you explain this in any more detail? I fail to see how the Fed isn't one of the players in this scenario. Or is your suggestion that the Fed is going to back off now and allow the rug pull to go forward?

>>19824886
Any tips or strategies you're willing to share with a newbie?

>>19827116
You should thank me. Now you know what your wife is doing when she works late. She’s getting those raises and bonuses.

>>19827100
lmao the cuck is a bear sure didn't expect that

>>19827144

Not really surprising, cuckoldry is just a form of masochism/humiliation fetish so of course he'd be a bear

>>19824894
Weed and whatnot were always super easy to get, even in rural areas.

My mom and her brothers never had a problem with finding it.

Shits worse now, with opioids, but it's also always been the young who were doing the hard drugs, too.

>>19827167
Nothing that happens on this thread has credibility anymore. Your shilling has been exposed. “Bears are cucks herr derr, buy stonks herr derrr”

>>19827125
The fed is just a reserve. If we don’t run out of liquidity the fed doesn’t have to do anything. Our market ran out of money. Fed printed so credit remains safe. But the debt remains. The fed can’t do anything about that. We can ride the wave of inflation to try and minimize the debt pressure by more fed intervention, but ideally we will relieve debt pressure by actually paying back debt.

>>19827139
my wife would be home and not need to work ever if she doesn't want to and fuck me 24/7

>>19827087
yeah, but it's hilarious that they do this for stocks and then futures with huge margins and capital at risk are exluded from the rule, top kek

>>19826516
>Aero engineers always told me how shitty Boeing was compared to Airbus. Its kept afloat by the gouvernment because of prestige, tech and military but so is GE and thats just anemic.
>In normal times companies like AAL would get incentives to buy Boeing, but now there arent even planes flying
This is all true.
But NASA is giving Boeing more money than SpaceX.
Also American military cannot buy Airbus shit, they have to buy Boeing.
On top of that, the 737max debacle was priced in before the corona crash.

>>19827125
I guess I didn’t answer your question. I don’t think the fed is a player in this game. I mean I honestly and truly hope they aren’t or the free market is dead and I won’t want any part of it.

>>19827191
I wish cryptomeme had somehow stopped being a meme and actually became the exchange it was once thought to be so I could see what it was like to participate in a no holds bar market with no arbitrary faggot rules like that.

>>19827186
>fuck me 24/7
That’s a lot of viagra, boomer.

Fuck jannies and their autistic fixation on bears.

>>19827204
I see, so you think it's a coincidence that the Fed has always acted in concert with the system of control that transfers wealth from the masses to the oligarchy for the purpose of strengthening control over the plebs.

>>19827219
nano machines, son

I've been thinking to put some money into one of the US internet providers, looking at AT&T or Comcast at the moment, what do you guys think, worth holding that at the moment?

>>19827234
I don’t. I think liberal policies are terrible. But I think there are actual fiscal conservatives still out there who will reject those approaches, regardless if they are presented by a “republican” or democrat.

>>19827232
Ok cuck

>>19827003
>Amazon, a company known for abusing its black workers, is the top holding
Top fucking kek

>>19826841
That's why NKLA has so much potencial.
Companies like XOM, CVX, BP, RDS.
They need hydrogen to be the next gen fuel, so they can keep distributing it like they distribute gasoline, diesel, etc...

>>19827291
I've heard att is a good choice for wheeling

>>19827293
Fiscal conservatives don't exist any more.

>>19827003
Thats just some random tech companies and then some

>>19823533
Anyone else thinking once spy breaks 290 it is all down hill from their

new

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