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19735308 No.19735308 [Reply] [Original]

Has the US gone full Banana Republic? Not even China went this far, they simply made selling stocks illegal for a couple of weeks. Are you telling me that the US is more incompetent and corrupt than fucking China, the fucking cesspool of the planet?

>> No.19735338

Actually China didn't even make selling stocks illegal, just shorting them.

>> No.19735339

>>19735308
We're fucked. If you aren't buying PMs, and crypto (BTC), you're fucked, too.

>> No.19735352

>>19735338
EU did the same

>> No.19735415

Shorting should be illegal.

Anyways I have been putting most of my money in crypto lately not because I think it will outperform but because it makes me feel better knowing I'm not contributing to this kikery.

>> No.19735449

>>19735308
jerome is literally humanities savior.
he is allowing us time to escape the fiat system by providing a soft landing. we can effortlessly transition into crypto

>> No.19735503

HERTZ IS GOING TO THE MOON
ROBINHOOD ZOOMERS WIN AGAIN

>> No.19735522

>>19735308
For everyone proclaiming that this is the end or at least the beginning of the end, I would like to remind them to take a look at Japan to see how long this actually can go on.
[hint: seemingly FOREVER]

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>>19735415
Bears are people too. You would be punishing smart people by not allowing both trades

>> No.19735590

>>19735415
With put contracts existing I don’t know why naked shorting is a thing

>> No.19735611

>>19735339
this, dollars are worthless

>> No.19735627

>>19735522
Only if you are not the worlds reserve currency, which Japan is not, and their market has stagnated since the started the open purchases, only keeping up with inflation with the USD.
Anyone who uses Japan as a comparison is a literal brainlet.

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19735628

>the value of crypto is based on the value of fiat
>crypto will be worth something if fiat collapses

>> No.19735653

>>19735339
>PMs
This
>and crypto (BTC)
This but ironically

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>>19735627
looks like lolbertarians can keep losing money shorting the japanese government bond market forever to me

>> No.19735717

>>19735308
what the fuck? why? it's consumers that run the US economy. we need more trump bux

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>>19735415
You know all the big crypto projects have been bought up by major banks, right? I lost the folder with the info graphic but the evidence is pretty compelling. There is no more asset in existence that isn't under the utter control of major banks, except prepper shit like seeds and such that'll only ever become valuable if the whole system collapses (and perhaps it should).

>> No.19735735

>>19735339
You are even more fucked if your only holdings are PMs and crypto. These assets come after you have a good chunk in large cap stocks, indices ETFs, dividend stocks, dividend ETFs, preferred stocks, preferred stocks ETFs, bonds and REITs.
What you will most likely need in the future is a steady flow of cash income from your investments WITHOUT the need to sell them.
This is something PMs can't provide and so far crypto can't either.
Legal tender (cash) will remain king in our daily lifes longer than we probably are able to anticipate.
If you're set in the above things, then worry about PMs and crypto.
>>19735627
Time will prove you wrong.

>> No.19735742

>>19735339

they are all just following whatever the market does.

>> No.19735750

>>19735522
and their economy is basically a flat line where worker do 12h day 6 day a week with lower average pay than Americans

>> No.19735753

>>19735717
You don't have an account at the Fed, the Fed can't give you money only congress can vote to

>> No.19735838

>>19735415
You should play the markets anyway and get some money out of the kikery. They're still in control no matter what you do, might as well get a piece of the pie. Take the money you made from their immoral system and use it against them. Take stock profits, buy guns, build army. Shoot them with their own bullshit. I wish all Americans were smart enough to play this game and stockpile.

>> No.19735844

>>19735750
>muh GDP
>*wheezes in diabeetus*
You only see numbers.
All the while Japan is a first world country with one of the most healthy populace worldwide while USA has devolved into a banana republic of obesity and brainletism.

>> No.19735865

>>19735838

I could probably fund an army with the money I've lost to them.

>> No.19735919

>>19735338
Isnt that the same thing?

>> No.19735961

>>19735628
The value of crypto is based on its ability to function as a medium of exchange. If fiat collapses crypto will be more valuable in this role

>> No.19736004

>>19735865
Fuck, what pajeetcoin did you gamble on?

>> No.19736007

>>19735735
So, you really believe there's no consequences to all the money printing and b.s.government intervention.....

>> No.19736048

>>19735961
That's the exact problem of crypto. How much of it is actually used to be trade for good and how much is daily traded for profits?
Almost none of it is used the first way and until this changes crypto had no backbone to give it value.

>> No.19736151

>>19735961
>crypto is based on its ability to function as a medium of exchange
so its more worthless than fiat.

>> No.19736152

>>19736048
I know LTC is used by Philippine maids to transfer money back home

>> No.19736217

>>19735339
what the fuck is PM

>> No.19736235

>>19736217
Precious Metals

>> No.19736430
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>>19735308

>> No.19736477

the fed buys treasury bonds with made up money
now it buys corporate bonds with made up money
soon it'll buy corporate stocks with made up money (it's already the case in japan)

>> No.19736501

>>19736477
Yes.

>> No.19736522

>>19736007
Japan nippons along just nicely. Why would it be different this time.
In FRB the central banks have never NOT printed anyways. The only differentiating factor is magnitude.

>> No.19736528

>>19735919
technically, all they did was issue a "request" to the major chinese trading firms to not do leveraged shorts.

>> No.19736552

>>19736217
nubiz

>> No.19736630

>>19735308
>implying any of you faggots here know anything worth a shit
Once the market does a small crash in a DECADE, you cucks will say "OMG THIS IS THE GREAT DEPRESSION PART 2 I WAS RIGHT RON PAULLLLL" like a doomed preacher who thinks any bad news in the world is "FUCK THE END TIMES ARE TOMORROW" until the market bounces back again.

>> No.19736688

>>19736477
Kek. Enjoy 30 years of stagnation.

>> No.19736741

>>19736217
Ur fucked .

>> No.19736984

>>19736630
Why can't they just let the market crash a little? Crash it enough to flush out the zombie companies, then continue with a healthy economy? Why must they keep it at the most overvalued level in history when they can just pump it any time they please it makes NO SENSE.

>> No.19737176

>>19735415
Shorting keeps balance in the market. Theoretically, and whatever that balance actually is. Plus there's nothing better than shorts getting their grapes crushed on moon missions.

>> No.19737988

>>19736048
you are wrong but i cant fault you for it, whole gray area industries operate almost exlusively with crypto, the markets are massive.

>> No.19737998

>>19735308
>Are you telling me that the US is more incompetent and corrupt than fucking China, the fucking cesspool of the planet?
Yes.

>> No.19738033

>>19736217
penis munchies

>> No.19738108

>>19736217
Boris Johnson?

>> No.19738252
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>>19735308
>Are you telling me that the US is more incompetent and corrupt than fucking China

Have you seen our politicians? let me name the most important ones right now:

Donald Trump.
Mitch McConnel.
Nancy Pelosi
Chuck Shumer

And until most recently, Paul Ryan too.

>> No.19738278

>>19736217

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgUxF7gvYeE

>> No.19738293

>>19736984
Because everyday they make a new (((instrument))) to profit from what is basically dead corporations.

America needs to fucking crash and whoever has been in charge of the economy for the last 20 years set as example of what not to fucking ever do again, as soon as the chinks introduce the yuan as world's tender America wil implode

>> No.19738341

>>19735735
You might actually be retarded or a glowie.

>> No.19738379

>hurr durr dollar collapse
holy shit the amount of absolute brainlets ITT

>> No.19738385

>>19738252
Mitch is smart but evil. Pelosi is cunning. The other two are clinically retarded.

>> No.19738494

how do we profit from this then, if we don't want to buy into the US's bs. Invest in China?

>> No.19738563

>>19738379
You can see the seething and faggotry ITT holy shit

>> No.19738596

>>19735308
This will divide the American people (and other countries because of USD) even more since now you have the class which can do pretty much anything and they will always get endless amounts of low interest debt. Then there is the class that actually has to fight the market power and compete with each other. The certain owning class will never lose their position as long as enough of their friends and similar people are in power. All the owning class has to do is to make democratic solutions as hard and slow and possible and they can easily spend decades doing absolutely nothing while the working class and normal entrepreneurs are forced to work even harder.

>> No.19738665

>>19738385

Right, there are both smart corrupt people, and dumb corrupt people.

>> No.19738747

>>19735308
Seethe more, chink

>> No.19738761

>>19738494
You will never profit from this unless you learn what stocks the powers that be are holding and what their friends are holding. Even if you did, they could easily make you lose money and just pump their own purses with this retarded communist system. Wanna profit from this? Work your way up in politics or start a company which becomes absolutely essential for the American way of life or befriend people from important families. Or just sell some retarded shit to these larger than life corporations since they become so massive even they don't know and don't care what they are doing since magic money will always keep them going.

>> No.19739118

>>19735308
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>> No.19739163

I don't even get it anymore. Wtf is even going on? Can the reset button just get pushed?

>> No.19739177

>>19735733
you know you are only allowed to buy seeds that produce fruit then the seeds within those fruit are unusable so you must then purchase more seeds from... the government
yep they control everything

>> No.19739222

>>19739163
The government is trying it's best to not push the reset button.

>> No.19739224

>>19738747
found the r-tard

>> No.19739243

>>19735522
bad example US occupation and control over their policies is the reason Japan is in such a bad position they forced them to take loans and crippled them economically while they propped china up and gave them hegemony, if japan tanked they would kick USA out and try joining a pan-asian UN and would no longer align with them economically, not that they ever wanted to in the first place.

>> No.19739249

>>19739163
before November?
coronachan redux is the only girl who can do that.

>> No.19739254

>>19739163
>>19739118

>> No.19739274

>>19739243
pan-asian union*

>> No.19739458

>>19736522
Japan was able to get away with it cause they were the only ones doing it

>> No.19739619
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>>19735308

>> No.19739648

>>19736152
excuse me what
no. they just use shit like xoom transfer

t. pinoy

>> No.19739838

>>19735308
this is illegal

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>>19735308
>Are you telling me that the US is more incompetent and corrupt than fucking China, the fucking cesspool of the planet?

>> No.19739900

>>19735735
i am gaining cash from from my crypto investments every second
and if need be i can use them as collateral for a cash loan

>> No.19739909

>>19735308
This is how the U.S. does Big Government

With a pretext of “muh free markets”

But now that (((they))) own all of the assets, there is no need for markets

Soon the disguise will drop and the brick wall will appear

Useful idiots get the lead treatment from (((them))) first . . .

>> No.19739914

>>19739619
comfy prediction but idk why he had to cock it up pretending to know which stock comes to market with a vaccine first. Really ruins the immersion.

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>>19739177
This can't be true. Surely you mean the 1time seeds are the only thing that's commercially available (which would be fucked also but it wouldn't surprise me). Do I have to fly to some third world country and smuggle proper seeds back in my ass? Do they have real seeds in Canada?

>> No.19740633

>>19736217
Penis Magic

>> No.19740660

>>19738385
Those 4 have collectively helped ruin America.

>> No.19741116

>>19738379
Everyone will rush to USA for safety

>> No.19741329

>>19739900
Checked and based.

>> No.19741365
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>>19735339
This but unironically if anyone doubts what anon is saying then look at this shit

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=gI4A

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/ICSA

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE

The entire world economy is fucked and a massive reset is about to happen.

>inb4 it's planned

not it's not the fucking retarded politicians don't even understand the fiat system is not even 50 years old , ever since bretton woods ended we been in a retarded experiment.

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

All fiat currencies are backed in other fiat currencies that are backed by progressive taxation and now all the economies stopped causing a death loop due to progressive taxation disappear due to no economic movement.

We are going to see multiple countries go back to a gdp of 1999 but with way higher population.

Literally we are going back to 25-30 years after bretton woods , almost 2/4 of this retarded fiat experiment , 2/4 of this experiment "growth" lost due to a shitty virus.

Meanwhile boomers with lead poisioning mental retardation call crypto a retarded experient.

10 years of crypto only with growth , 49 years of fiat experiment and we just lost 20 years of growth.

BUY BITCOIN , PM AND LAND THAT CAN GROW FOOD NOW, ALSO GET A SECOND PASSPORT.

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>>19735308
>WAAAAAAAAAAA I GAMBLED ON MY COUNTRY ALLOWING ITS BUSINESSES TO FAIL IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC AND NOW I AM MAKING AD HOMINEM ARGUMENT RATHER THAN ACCEPTING THAT MY POSITION WAS FUCKING RETARDED

shut the fuck up and admit you're a retard, only then will you be able to move past your retardation and accept reality, you fucking retard

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>>19741382
>too big to fail sirs, never bet against the stock market no matter what happens that severely impacts the global economy and if you do you're a retard

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>>19741424
Hey, be my guest. As long as the market keeps going up, I'll keep winning and you'll keep losing. Cry about some hypothetical that you're 100% sure is going to happen; meanwhile I'll keep buying stocks and selling at a profit. I've made thousands of dollars in the last couple of months off of minuscule amounts of money.

Stay mad.

>> No.19741519

>>19741424
Nice false dichotomy. Your cope game healthy.

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>>19738596
Im just wondering if this is sustainable at all. At what point does the dam break, if at all in our lifetime? As long as the USD is still the world's reserve currency can the elite keep this game going indefinitely? I think it's certain there will be no comprehensive reform within the democratic system at this rate. Even if a "radical" like Bernie gets elected they will be stonewalled by the establishment. And it seems the left is too inoculated by identity politics to spread real class conciousness.
What is certain is that the USA is on the decline, and considering how retarded the leadership is right now I won't be surprised if they accelerate it in a vain effort to reassert dominance and hegemony. A cornered dog is the most dangerous, especially when a power as alien as the PRC has the initiative

>> No.19741879

>>19735415
The correct way to utilize shorting is in hedging and pairs trading. It should definitely stay legal because when used correctly it's a very powerful risk management tool.

>> No.19741886

>>19735308
Yes.

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>>19735308
Let's just take a step back for a second and try to divine Powell's logic:
>Stocks off only ~5% from ATH after one of the fastest, most insane recoveries in market history
>States reopening
>No surge in cases, 2nd wave looking less and less likely
>P/E Multiples at historic highs indicating market is significantly overbought
...and the guy decides to take the nuclear option to prop up equity/debt markets? What the fuck is this man doing? Yes I am a bear, yes I'm gay and retarded and betting against America, but what the fuck was this guy thinking? What does he know, and what is he going to say at 10AM tomorrow?
If the past three months have taught me anything, it's that I'm certainly not the smartest person to ever live, but it seems to me that there is an absurd disconnect between Powell's actions and the facts on the ground as we know them. This was an incredibly drastic move on the Fed's part; are they trying to frontrun something horrible here?

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>>19735733
>>19739177
ive got two plum tree sapling in my backyard right now that are growing from plums my neighbour gave me. I don't think your statement is totally correct.

>> No.19742832

>>19742486
The thing is there has to be upward pressure or it will come tumbling down nearly overnight. If they said "ok we are going to let the markets correct just a little bit no more QE"
At this point it's either keep applying upward pressure to the market or the whole thing collapses
Hence why Jerome saying interest rates will stay the same through 2022 was bearish. The market is like a cokehead on a 72 hour binge there is a lot of pain to be had once the coke runs out

>> No.19742884

All you idiots thinking the dollar is going collapse can't even see that the dollar has just rammed it's giant dick in the ass of every country in the world.

The United States is the most powerful country and will remain so for the foreseeable future. COPE

>> No.19742915

>>19736477
it was all made-up from the beginning. all of it. stocks and bonds are based on trust. for example, if you have stocks in your brokerage account you trust that your broker has attached your name to the ownership of those shares. QEinfinity violates this trust system because now some bankers can just generate more fiat out of thin air, pay themselves, and buy anything that requires price stability or price increase.

>> No.19742941

>>19735627
>thinking world reserve currency helps the US

>> No.19742955

>>19742486
he's a smart man. they're being proactive and frontrunning what's about to come. the rug is getting pulled sooner or later

>> No.19742981

>>19739914
it's an index, not an individual stock. Hence his use of the term "one of these guys"

>> No.19742994

>>19738293
Meanwhile in the real world money is pouring out of China because the people there know it’s even worse there. ‘Tis truly the clowniest of all possible worlds

>> No.19743023

>>19742884

That doesn't mean the average american needs to be doing well at all.

>> No.19743036

>>19735522
Japan doesn't have blacks and communists
Look how quickly physical security can be undermined in the US

>> No.19743049

>>19743036
>Japan doesn't have communists

They do have quite a few, actually.

>> No.19743053
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19743053

How is it legal for the Fed to buy corporate bonds? I thought they couldn't buy assets unless they were simply financing the Treasury to buy said assets? Isn't this the entire reason the SPV's were created in the first round of stimulus where the Treasury owns the underlying assets in the SPV and assumes first loss but they are paid for by the Fed?

>> No.19743056

matter of fact i think stocks dump tomorrow after powell speaks. one thing is bitcoin makes its move right before stocks. well bitcoin rn looks just like march 11th where on the daily it made a swing failure pattern before the wreckage to 3.5k. Same SFP today on the daily. bitcoin prob draws down to 200 ma and spx probably closes below the 200 ma.

>> No.19743196

>>19739619
The election won't be cancelled. This is all so dumb.

I'm sorry but as a libertarian I can say for everyone, we were wrong. Inflation isn't real. Monetary policy is what the Fed says it is. That's reality.

>> No.19743226

>>19743056
I hope you're right, for my sake. Bear gang here

>> No.19743254

Thoughts on buying tvix and spxs?

>> No.19743294

>>19743254
Bought tvix on thrusday and held til friday. Made some gains. It's good to add it to your arsenal.

>> No.19743300

>>19743053
congress tomorrow at 10am will be asking the fed these question. the fed's pump and dump is about to end

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>>19743254
I'm holding TVIX and UVXY 6/19 calls right now. Take that for what you will

>> No.19743386

>>19735838
We'll still get you somehow, you pussy gun hoarding gentile

>> No.19743497

>>19735735
you are the dumbest motherfucker alive. Do 1 ounce of research please.

>> No.19743593

>>19735308
So this is kinda like the irl equivalent of printing tether and buying btc to keep the whole ponzi afloat

>> No.19743675

>>19743593
yeah thether copied the idea from the federal reserve lmao

>> No.19743818

/biz/ always triggers me to masturbate. I have a problem

>> No.19744648

>>19735308
I see no problem. Let the Fed purchase all assets in the country. Going so far to prop up the market that we become socialist, proving to commies that horseshoe theory was correct all along.

>> No.19744677

>>19735627
The point was that Japan still exists, not that they thrived.

>> No.19744695

>>19743675
Same (((crew))) behind both lol

You think they would let crypto just subvert the world financial system? LMFAO

They subverted and took control over BTC and now they keep the illusion alive with fake money printed by Tether a.k.a Crypto Fed.

>> No.19744794

>>19735308
I really feel at this point the office at the fed looks like a dorm after the party 24/7 with crushed up beer cans with Powell and the boys in suits but no ties sitting around on the floor leaning against desks doing bong rips in a state of exhaustion until someone utters
> Hey...I got an idea...
>

>> No.19744820

>>19743196
> As a libertarian
> Bow to the fed
I fucking hate 2020 so fucking much.

>> No.19744839

>>19743300
I really hope you don't believe that. Even if it does happen, I assure you it's for the camera's, the fed doesn't answer to Congress.

>> No.19744884

>>19741770
There will be hungry people and blood in the streets.

Simple as. If you don't create stuff and mismanage resources there are no resources to distribute.

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I hope you Anons are investing in gardening.

It's really not hard to do and will supplement your staple food stocks or act as your staple food store if you go that route.

>> No.19744947

>>19742486
>facts
Haha. Those might be facts, but they're very short of presenting reality. Get reading senpai.

>> No.19744985

>>19744921
Zucchini and eggplant...? What are the little ones?

>> No.19745043

>>19744985
Both squash actually, the big ones.
Lettuce off to the side and a shitload of variety peppers, the small ones.

The garden is designed to flavor rice, bread, and potatoes.

>> No.19745060

>>19741770
It breaks when you stop accepting usd for goods and services. Beware, govs will kill you rather than let you escape.

>> No.19745077

>>19735733
You don’t even need info graphics. If you search up any hedge fund they’ll have a crypto team filled with PhD and master’s holding quant analyst, traders, developers etc. Like always, they’re gonna make the bulk of the money and trades

>> No.19745084

>>19741770

Getting the fuck out of America is a priority.

>> No.19745092

>>19742486
The market is 98% human psychology, keep in mind.

Powell's word can drop it double digit red alone.

>> No.19745105

>>19735844
Yeah, healthy is the perfect word to describe Japan's demographics

>> No.19745107

>>19739163
Trump wants his DOW is really not a meme. Besides many elites is abandoning America ship. They need to unload their shit bags to this country. America was very rich so they have a plenty of time and things to fuck up until it’s sucked up dry

Technology might advance and make certain people superhuman in next 30 years. If you’re an elite you shouldn’t care about how America falls or any country falls in short sighted time. Elites can profit more even during the lockdown. I don’t believe Fed or any elite policy main goal is to help average Americans citizens. They just need to keep this country not too fucked up until it’s over

>> No.19745127

>>19735733

Yeah, if only we could tell people what they can and can't buy with their own money. Alas, we don't live in such a fantasy land. Crypto was only supposed to be for us REEEEEE this was supposed to be 'Bowsers revolution' REEEEE.

>> No.19745135

>>19745084
go where?

>> No.19745141

>>19735339
And FUND. Don't forget FUND in case the NWO wins.

>> No.19745165

>>19745135

Some smaller communities in the northern states might have longevity to survive the storm, but I'm going to one of the Baltic states.

>> No.19745169

>>19745084
Everyone was in on the game, there is no where to go.
Literally every world government had their hand in the cookie jar.

We are through the looking glass of 'The Wealth of Nations' we let our markets open and with no competition they collectively decided to fuck the 99% to feed the 1.

America's libertarian majority and law of the land combined with high firearm ownership may maintain decent law and order to purge government excess and downsize to what will be required to even get through with minimal bloodshed.

>> No.19745179

>>19743196
>Inflation hasn't become painful in 3 months so it isn't real
You're retarded

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>>19735308
>The central bank, which is tasked with stablizing the economy, is... STaBiLizInG THE EcONoMy! It's a fucking banana republic because I'm such a dumb cuck I can't stop myself from getting fucked over and over again with my shorts RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.19745198

The negative effects of inflation are not immediately evident, they take a while to kick in.

>> No.19745200

>>19735308
It's pretty much over, desu. Just buy Suterusu, stake, and wait for Asia's full recovery.

>> No.19745228

>>19745198
>j-just wait guys, I'll be right eventually, y-you'll see!

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>>19735308
>China, the fucking cesspool of the planet?

>> No.19745253

>>19742486
Yeah the stock market is best described as a shit show.

What the fuck are they doing with buying bonds?

>> No.19745256

>>19735308
jews

>> No.19745332

>>19742486
I’ll drop the redpill here. It’s because since 2008 companies are so leveraged that most of S&Ps are not making enough profits to justify their growth for... 10 fucking years. The stock was backed up by more debt and share buybacks since the beginning. They’re all nearly exploding this year without coronavirus or any bad news
It’s like they’re hanging on the edge already. now the coronavirus and riots/trade wars take away the only hope —some revenue away from the zombies. It’s gonna crush so much. The chain reaction from bad debt pile up to banks then to everything else.

Worst part for Powell is that no one is gonna have the revenue back to pre-coronavirus soon enough. He has to give more and more

If you’re a 40 year old working class man with salary of 3500. Who has 1200/month mortgage, 800 credit card spending, 500 kids and 500 food. You can’t stop. If you stop just a month your whole family is gonna collapse

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>>19745332
I wonder how many people on this board are so fucking uniformed they actually believe this garbage.

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>>19735415
Try to stop me bitch

>> No.19745458

>>19745363
Lol that chart proves nothing. If company buybacks shares the price is pushed up, the shares are killed and of course the earning went higher. That’s what happened. The chart does not tell you company debt ratio or anything. You can’t show me a shell company who makes no real profit but pays dividends to keep the hype up and tell me “hey, this industry is gonna moon and their financial look neat”. No they’re dead

>> No.19745481

>>19743675
counterfeiting?

>> No.19745500

>>19741365
Based and redpilled bobro

>> No.19745513

>>19736217
Pocket Minge

>> No.19745597

>>19736217
post meridiem

>> No.19745609

>>19735339
BSV is Bitcoin

>> No.19745693

>>19735308
It all has to do w/ BSV. If you can see beyond what's in front of us & piece it together, it becomes obvious. Welcome to the start of Atlas Shrugged on a global level. China appears to be the sane ones now, but there is nothing they can do to stop the global seizure of all assets by the US. The US appears to be insane because they are taking the steps the must be taken in order to do so. You think it's impossible? This is why every head of state hates team-T---R/U-/M-//p So did they.

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>>19738596
>NEETs wins AGAIN
how will wagies ever recover?

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>>19739619
based and shinyrockpilled

>> No.19746429

>>19739619
That anon was actually a retarded mutt. He thought he could just leave Burgerland & be free.

>> No.19746430

>>19744820
The fun has just begun though, enjoy the show. This is a once in a life time event

>> No.19746476

>>19736630
everyone is arguing the market is increasingly disconnected from the economy and you're here sperging out you're smarter than everyone like a 20 years old college boy who watches too many youtube videos
who cares about fictional numbers? actual quality of life for most people has gone down, and this heralds a sharper drop

>> No.19746501

>>19735308
The only way out of this mess is WAR, people are not taking this into consideration

>> No.19746504

>>19741365
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=gI4A
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/ICSA
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE

holy fucking shit, we are so fucking fucked..

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Someone explain to an absolute brainlet why this is bad

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>>19741365
>>19746504
Not if you own bitcoin

>> No.19746519

>>19746508
Exactly I’m just here to trade shitcoin I don’t know anything about actual economy

>> No.19746656

>>19738761
...all of this from my chair in my basement?

>> No.19746781

>>19739243
Did you forget that every other Asian country hates and loathes them? I doubt they would do well in a Pan-Asian Union, which would just be China dominated anyway.
>>19745105
American isn't how I'd describe America's demographics in 30 years.

>> No.19746872

I wish patriots could organise and march on the Federal Reserve in Washington D.C.

They are the number one reason why America has gone to shit since the 1970s and nobody talks about them because retarded traitorous economists like Paul Krugman are justifying it by saying "leave monetary policy to the experts, it's too complex for you simple people to understand".

The entire thing is a fucking farce and I can't believe they have been able to get away with it for so long. Crypto is the only way out of this mess unironically. I will only die happy if central banking has been destroyed once and for all.

>> No.19747133

>>19742915
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE
Bankers know what's best for us. They deserve infinite trust.

>> No.19747245

>>19745077
This is not true lol, most hfm’s are fucking laughing at crypto. I’d say 20-30% of funds even have one guy for crypto onboard. I’v been applying for this position for the past few weeks. I’ll get headhunted by many large firms/funds, mention I’m interested in crypto(btc) positions and they never call back. They think its a joke, its going to swallow many of them whole. No, I’m not talking about your shitcoin, I’m talking about Bitcoin.

>> No.19748149

>>19741365
i can prob get a mexico passport, will that be usefull?

>> No.19748167

>>19735415
why should shorting be illegal you communist retard, it is paramount for price discovery. you cucked trannynigger

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>>19748149
Yes if shit goes down nations may avoid giving passport to prevent their taxcattlerino from leaving.

>> No.19748392

https://ytcropper.com/cropped/qd5ee8aa44cb919

>> No.19748416

>>19748303

This is a huge risk that is being underestimated in Western countries. I can 100% see the EU enacting emigration control if shit actually goes down.

>> No.19748441

>>19748416
Yea to "protect from the virus", others won't give passports due to "lack of materials" as venezuela does to prevent their taxcattlerino from leaving.

>> No.19749506

>>19735919
Not even remotely. What are you doing on /biz/ discussing things you don't even understand or care for?

>> No.19749536

>sell off begins
>Just go all in on a 3x leveraged bear etf
>Make money anyway

Seems easy??

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>>19735415
>selling should not be allowed

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>>19739163
>just reset it bro haha
listen, do you have any idea how many powerful players are going to get absolutely ass blasted if they reset everything? The (((elite))) derive their power from owning the entire board with the fiat debt ponzi scheme.
Imagine owning everything an being reduced to literally fucking $0.00
It's a mind fuck for sure, and I am sure Powell is compromised as any other politician in that swamp.
It's ogre. New players will enter. This is the changing of the guard. Fucking boomers think they can live forever.

>> No.19750483

>>19743196
found der juden

>> No.19750619

>>19745332
Your analogy made me sweat and I'm not even a wagie w/ kids

>> No.19750731

>>19741770
hnnnngggh fuck i wanna suck on those dirty socks

>> No.19750839

>>19735308
Do you not realize china has pulled the strings for decades?

>> No.19750865

Aside from food and guns, are there any other tangible physical objects I should be holding right now?

>> No.19750886

>>19750865
Passport, land, hardware crypto wallet.

>> No.19750906

>>19745194
cope harder.

>> No.19750966

>>19735503
I hope

>> No.19751019

>>19745194
Central banks are not tasked to buy companies their task is the monetary policy which is so fucked up they are bypassing that instead of fixing it and buying companies stocks directly.

And when those inflated stocks are cashed out they create inflation to the point a shitty house in Detroit will cost 4m usd in 2022

>> No.19751276

>>19750455
Perhaps fiat money will become worthless and wealth will be measured entirely in ownership of equity.

>> No.19751776

>>19751276
>only real, tangible assets will distinguish the haves from the have nots
who'da thunk it
buy gold
buy land
buy ammo
buy food
real friends
real skills
real wealth
Jesus is coming

>> No.19752388

>>19735590
No risk of a price drop + being out of the money

>> No.19752929

>>19750865
>Everclear/Moonshine/Vodka, batteries, cigarettes, matches

>> No.19753185

>>19736048
You have to wait for the old system to slowly collapse until crypto takes off. But some crypto projects are already waiting for liquidity and green light from regulators. There are solid projects out there just waiting to deploy their blockchain tech. It will start in the developing world first since they need it the most.

;tldr the tech is there, we are just waiting for world changing events to trigger the transition

>> No.19753361

>>19735308
Happens when you elect a lil corrupt bunker bitch to be your leader who failed at every product he ever launched.

>> No.19753843

>>19735415
>Shorting should be illegal.
Why?

>> No.19753982

>>19753361
Bunker boy.....ahhh this timeline is quiet entertaining albeit stressful, but you can't make this shit up. Enjoy the ride

>> No.19754260

>>19736217
Prime Ministers, also known as Boomer Rocks.

>> No.19754620

The US corporation is supposedly bankrupt. Trump is managing this bankruptcy among other things.

Somebody was busy buying assets worth trillions in the past decades. Seems like those assets now are being populated with the developing world. The whole ponzi economy is hanging by a thread. Enter controlled demolition because that’s what this is.

>> No.19754670

>>19753361
>implying you wouldn’t spend time in the presidential bunker

What happens if China sneaks a nuke onto Pennsylvania Ave?

>> No.19755381

>>19743049
last famous one got killed by a kamakazi college student

>> No.19755636

>>19752388
You can still buy in the money puts to hedge a long position or take a short position

>> No.19755744

>>19754620
any more reading on this?
idc if it's schizo or not

>> No.19756031

>>19742884
this, normies just don't get it

>> No.19756050

>>19755381

Quick google search here.

>Following the most recent councillors election held on 21 July 2019, the party holds 13 seats in the House of Councillors.[13] Following the most recent general election held on 22 October 2017, the party holds 12 seats in the House of Representatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Communist_Party

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>> No.19756213

>>19750455
>Fucking boomers think they can live forever.
yeah they wont fuck off. see how fast the country locked down when the boomer remover became a threat

>> No.19756218

>>19752929
shit ton of bic lighters are better than matches

>> No.19756341

>>19735308
This is a much better move than China. This will eliminate so much debt after the corona virus has passed and investors start buying again.