/biz/ - Business & Finance

So what's the pool? Benefits of adding to it?

Example:
In the beginning, all of the 5 tokens were worth $1000, so the pool size was $5000.

Now, say all other 4 tokens remained at their old value ($1000 / token), but STA did a x10, so STA value in pool is now worth $10,000.

That's much more than 20% of the pool, so the balancer must balance it out.
Note that now the pool size is $10,000 (STA) + $4000 (other 4 tokens) = $14,000.

So, to balance it out, each token should now have value of $14,000 / 5 = $2800.

To reach this goal, the balancer must sell the excess STA, and that would be $10,000 (current worth of STA) - $2800 (the new target worth of STA) = $7200.

The balancer sells the excess on various exchanges to which it has a trading bot interface to. Currently, it's only Uniswap.
Note that by selling, it performs transactions, and thus burns tokens, so the supply also decreases!

So, now that the balancer has sold the excess STA, it obtained $7200 dollars (say, in DAI coins).

Now, to balance out the other 4 tokens, it must buy $7200 / 4 = $1800 worth of each token.

So, it buys $1800 worth of ETH, $1800 worth of LINK, etc.

In the end, it's all balanced at 20% for each token - all 5 tokens are now worth $2800 dollars each!
And the total pool size remained at $14,000 dollars - so no value was lost!
Plus, you also get the trading fees, which are added to the pool!
On top of that, Balancer is now issuing BAL tokens for all liquidity providers!
You can check what it is all about here:
https://defipulse.com/blog/balancer-start-liquidity-mining-and-earn-bal-tokens-today/

That's the magic of the balance pools.

>How do I check TXs?
Statera Token Tracker: https://etherscan.io/token/0xa7DE087329BFcda5639247F96140f9DAbe3DeED1
Uniswap contract: https://etherscan.io/address/0xa7DE087329BFcda5639247F96140f9DAbe3DeED1

>Balancer AKA Thanos
https://etherscan.io/address/0x0e511Aa1a137AaD267dfe3a6bFCa0b856C1a3682
https://balancer.finance/whitepaper

>Scott's nerdy ass tryin to educate you stupid fucks
https://medium.com/@stateraproject/statera-an-indexed-deflationary-token-dfb818abd61d

>For all you Github FUDders . Finally, everyone's ears may yet recover from your screeching.
https://github.com/StateraProject

>Live Sta coinstats

https://coinstats.app/en/coins/statera

>TG Channels
Statera
Statera Price Talk (Unofficial)
Statera Announcement

>What do we do when we hit [insert amazing price milestone here]
Once we hit $1, don't dump your bags like retards, slowly shave off a percent or two once a week, and enjoy the accumulation upwards while reaping benefits along the way.

ANNOUNCEMENTS
An updated QRD on Statera and its uses
https://medium.com/@stateraproject/statera-a-breakdown-of-the-ecosystem-6fa99e98caa1

So, we know you’ve all been patiently waiting for something to come from us. We’ve been working hard over the past few days and we’re really excited to announce that Statera is now trading on Saturn Network, which means you no longer have to worry about slippage and liquidity issues. Currently they are working on getting our official information audited and listed on their exchange, however, you can still trade Statera through this link:

https://www.saturn.network/exchange/ETH/order-book/0xa7de087329bfcda5639247f96140f9dabe3deed1
UNOFFICIAL EXPLAINER VIDEOS

>STA overview
https://youtu.be/M1u3t7tOQCY

>STA Tokenomics
https://youtu.be/f_a86WIbA7A

>STA Pool ownership breakdown
https://youtu.be/SnH3mAv920Q

>STA Balancer ovewview
https://youtu.be/0fVmFs01_Fs

>STA in action
https://youtu.be/k7pFhIo6OLg

>Whats happening inside the pool
https://youtu.be/0YlrsLcznTA

>Sending STA to Pool
https://youtu.be/tYwsP2QbV4I

>STA cant be fudded
https://youtu.be/wxa6l-lahDk

>Adding liquidity
https://youtu.be/fIxwfd9qkaI

Some BASED comments from the team

>I think the difference between STA and GBTC is the fact that when you enter the STA ecosystem, you're getting onboard with not just bitcoin, but with arguably the top cryptocurrencies, hence you're betting on cryptocurrency as a concept moreso than on just solely bitcoin or Ethereum. Also, the STA ecosystem itself promotes the growth of the four coins as it constantly buys and sells them, the theoretical perspective being that eventually it creates an equilibrium.

>101 million tokens was the starting supply. I can't particularly answer how tokens being out of circulation appreciate the value of circulating tokens out of fears for speculation. I'm not going to give a random number without any factual basis, however, we can apply the law of supply and demand to get a conceptual answer. Deflation and inflation both work on this concept.

>We're working on the marketing to create that demand, all whilst the supply is continuously dropping. Statera will continue to drop in supply even if all external trading ceased to exist as the Balancer will continue to trade STA to keep the 20% equilibrium, thus in turn burning 1% of every transactional value.

>The marketing is being worked on, I can't make influencers respond faster, I can only control what I can physically do myself. And I can assure you I wouldn't be up at 3:31am if I wasn't working on things I can personally do to impact the growth of this project.

One day fudders will stop. Try to be civivil in this thread anons, and cut through the FUD with the Statera blade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYx0mXSeMKs

fudders have no power here

>>19657950
We went through the same shit in the tg a few hours ago. It is either the same guy, or it is someone copy-pasting his fud

the stones....
i will be...
I N E V I T A B L E

>Statera?
I've been invested in this project since the first day, and I have been thinking about the best way to describe Statera for a while. Despite the astonishing success of Hex, most of the wider cryptocurrency community want to see some kind of "real world" value in a token, not just "price go up".
Fortunately, Statera actually has an excellent value proposition in addition to its amazing tokenomics. Before I elaborate on that, we need to understand the true importance of the liquidity pool. Some of you may be wondering: except for supporting the value of Statera, why does it matter that we all contribute to a single index fund instead of just each making our own one? The Balancer project allows anyone to make their own pool after all.

The simplest answer is that this project is about much more than just an index fund. It is about the decentralization of liquidity.

At this point in time, the cryptocurrency marketplace is still dominated by large centralized exchanges. These exchanges destroy the possibility of privacy and sometimes abuse their power, as we saw with the Steemit debacle.
Decentralized market makers such as Uniswap and Balancer provide a solution to this problem, but their liquidity is still dwarfed by that of the larger CEXes.

Statera, in combination with the Balancer, can help decentralization win the day. By providing a strong incentive for investors to pool their funds, Statera allows us to bootstrap a large and fast-growing liquidity pool which rewards contributors with fees and supports the price of Statera. As the liquidity pool grows, it becomes more profitable, since it allows for larger swaps to occur with negligible slippage. Imagine the potential revenue of a liquidity pool that can accomodate transactions worth 1, 10 or 100 BTC.

If our pool can grow to such an extent, we will have proven that Statera is the killer app of deflationary currencies and decentralized liquidity pools. We will usurp the thrones of CZ and Brian Armstrong

>>19658454
usurp their thrones?
do you know what the punishment for treason is?

>>19658454
Good post. Capped and saved

>>19658557
Already done, and twice I believe

>>19657693

Thanos so close to the mind stone.

>I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail nonetheless. I ask you to what end? Dread it? Run from it? Destiny arrives all the same. And now it's here. Or should I say, I am.

I'm looking at the top currencies on coinmarketcap, and the top 200 are ranked according to marketcap, but then at 201 and after, it stars over with Hex. Does anyone know why Hex is 201 instead of number 20?

>>19658759
1. start using coingecko instead
2. they sometimes dont list the correct supply of coins so their calculations get fucked.

>>19658851
It looks like the #201+ coins on coinmarket cap aren't listed on the coingecko marktcap list. It must only look at CEX's or something

Everyone is seeing this right?

>>19659073
Strap in, boys!

>>19659073
Very big

>>19659073

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO

>>1965907
Last time we had a x10 so i bet this time we reach 50c

>>19659073
yep

>>19659015
you need to go to the next page anon... it has over 7000 coins listed

>>19659073
It's almost time

Thread theme:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=A_sY2rjxq6M

>>19659073

>>19659200
I don't see Hex listed anywhere on there though, even if I keep digging. I don't have any affinity towards hex, but it has a marktcap of 779 million, and it isn't listed in the top 100 on coinmarketcap or coingecko, so I am just trying to figure out if they don't count a coin unless it is on a major cex or something similar

fellow yuropoors are you sleeping?
or just too comfy to post?

>>19659495
yeah i think they have problems with hex so neither coingecko or cmc have them listed correctly. you will have to search for hex to find it.

>>19659073
Of course.

gonna be huge

>>19659073
I'm already quite bullish on statera BUT why would that pattern exact repeat in such an identical manner when the price range, liquidity etc is no longer the same? Just curious.

>>19659668
History doesn’t repeat but it often rhymes

Comfy level 6/10. I could use this money now to pay a debt. I'm still in the gains , but I wish I got into ESH/Ghost or 10x'd ETH so I wouldn't have to substract a portion of my STA gains.
I have about 2000$ left to pay and should keep 1200$ for living 3 months. What to do... could have made 10x this money if I swing traded the 2 tops.

>>19659644
Checked

>>19659508
lurking. watching live price feed on uniswap while scrambling my eggs with salami. how much do u own fellow european, if I may ask?

>>19659687
Yeah sure. I just thought there might be some technical reasoning behind said assertion that I didn't understand.

>>19659738
270k+
you?

Guys, i keep trying to buy sta but no matter what I do it doesn't go through

>>19659740
I'd suggest looking more into fractals in general, or at least they occur in nature, it's pretty crazy shit man. They show up everywhere.

>>19659778
are you on v2? try v1. i tried to buy on v2 and it wasn't working either. how can i contact them to tell them? unless someone else wants to.

>>19659778

set slippage to something not round like 1.03

keep moving it higher if it doesnt work the first time

>>19659778
Set slippage to 1.03

>>19659778
>>19659812
You need to set additional slippage to 1.5% (or anything else, just don't use 0.5 or 1%) - Uniswap team said it's a fix to have STA work on V2.

>>19659689
Hindsight is easy my friend, actual swing trading is not
You could cash out now, but I have a strong feeling you'll regret it in the next week or two when STA takes off again
I recommend just sitting back and relaxing. Have faith that you've invested in a solid project that is going to make you some good money in the long run

>>19659812
I've also been having issues with v2. If I try to sell STA, when I hit "Confirm Swap" it never loads the Metamask confirmation window. Buying works normally.

Anyone else seeing this issue?

>>19659765
It´s very nice speaking to future millionaire. GL
>t.28k STAlet

>>19659926
are u sure it doesnt pop up a little notification on your meta mask thingy in the top right? that happens to me sometimes.

>>19659926
Adjust slippage to a non-round number, i.e. 1.03%

>>19659812
>>19659825
>>19659838
Wtf bros, i did it and now I have a a respectable stack, was it an error or wtf happened cause I definitely didn't pay enough for this?

>>19660010
This worked, thank you for the info
So is this a glitch in Uniswap or what?

>>19659971
"the real gains we make are the frens we shitpost with on biz along the way"
-apu apustaja .same day as christ got killed by kikes.

>>19660043
Yeah Uniswap v2 specifically are experiencing issues with FoT tokens

>>19660014
10105 * 0.062 = 626
So that's about right

Don't want to sound like a fudder. But STA and the amount of liquidity in the pool for Thanos to use really needs to be propelled up ASAP. It's not that I'm not satisfied with the upwards movement being more steady, even if for some retards we're stuck "crabbing". But a massive dump from top holders could kill the project in the bud. Are the translation anons here? How did it go overall? Any progress?

>>19660060
>>19659848
This needs to be mentioned in the OP as every thread has the same question.

>>19660107
None will sell before the next big pump, and even if the do sell once it pumps, if they had any brains, they would put their gains back into the pool. I intend to put more into the pool as the price goes higher, and I believe a lot of others will do the same. It is a way to secure profits while also providing support for the STA that you keep holding.

>>19660107
If the top holders dumped their stacks and STA hit 0.005, Thanos would be able to buy up millions of cheap STA.

A few whales cannot destroy this project now, not even if the devs dumped literally everything.

>>19660248
This. The top didn't dump at 1.5 because they know better.

>>19660248
They better get that 1 button pool going then because I'm not confident that I won't fuck it up and lose everything if I try it, and if I'm not confident then normies are definitely not going to add to the pool unless that button comes out

>>19660107
I'm not too worried about that. Allow me to explain why

>A whale is unlikely to dump his whole stack at once, because he would only get a fraction of the total value due to liquidity / slippage
>A whale could dump his stack little by little, but that wouldn't affect the price as much anyway
>Even if a whale did dump his whole stack and knocked the price down < 2 cents, I think buying pressure would go crazy and we'd end up right back where we are now
>And finally, I think most whales are too smart to sell now, because they know this project could make them legitimately rich, and selling now would be extremely foolish

>>19660316
I think it's Balancer that are working on that feature, it's out of the STA devs' hands

>>19660316
this

>>19660055
checked a frenspilled. what was your biggest reason to buy? mine is dumb, but i´m working for the ´state´ and our logo is literally statera logo.

>>19660014
How much did you pay?

>>19660316
People at STA found a workaround by writing into the contract to 1-token pool, but as >>19660374 said, the Balancer team is another project. They're working on it, but we have no ETA

>>19660418
i was in v1 and v2.
i had gotten strong deja vu from this project so i felt the universe was giving me a signal and i went on it. And the project is simply so fucking simple and genius, hidden in plain sight for everyone to create but based scott was first.

Yet another day at 6c lads but every day is a day closer to the pump. Looking forward to some action. I feel it may be coming soon.

Night has once again fallen here in Australia. Keep holding through the night lads and we might just all make it.

>>19660248
>>19660275
>>19660366
Those are good answers, for now you've got me convinced. I suppose it won't do me much harm to throw 0.40 ETH at this and see what goes. Thanks anons

>>19660316
The workaround method is actually really simple. Just try it with pennies first.

Follow the medium guide and it will take few minutes for the first time and after that you can do it in 10 seconds. The guide only tells you how to pool STA but the process is identical for all the 5 tokens, all you need to do is switch the contract address to the tokens contract address you wish to pool.

I still haven't understood how this actually works or why STA has to exist. I hope there will be a good brainlet explanation at some point.

>>19660479
gn ausanon

If generally all coin prices are down today a low carb price would be expected until they rise a bit. Those might be due to stocks falling along with news of a second wave of corona virus impacting people’s behavior

>>19660653
just ask brainlet questions or go to the archived threads and see all the brainlet hand holding if you want to know.

>>19660653
Read the pastas and watch the youtube videos by this dude. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcAkPWqcXvVVLRz_DUUrEEw

Also read the medium posts and then go take a look at the balancer and use your brain to process what's happening.

One thing to note people. The one pooling option is a workaround, but try not to pool your STA stacks directly. You're putting STA into the pool which gets sold for other assets, and so it's adding sell pressure.

Best idea would be to drop one of the other tokens in it. Swap STA for ETH if you have to, and then pool ETH. Would have Thanos actually buy STA to keep the 20% balance and add buy pressure, instead of the other way around.

So the best thing to do is to pool when price is high right, and then get out of the pool when the price tanks - say after the next peak. But if everyone withdraws their pool balances when that happens, what will happen to Thanos Power then? Would it stop functioning?

>>19660653

>>19651863
>>19651863
>>19651863

>>19660956
You pool to save profits when it's high, you don't remove your liquidity when it's low. I pooled around 5k$ when we hit 10c the first time, and my pool worth was about 4.5k$ when STA dipped to 2c the day after. Every swing in price means a lot of buying and selling going on, you're missing out on a lot of tx fees. (and BAL tokens)

>>19661020
>>19660919
If i pool some STA, how do i pull it all out as just STA without raping myself in transaction fees by converting the other 80% back into STA?

>>19659926

Not for selling but I had that happen to me on v2 when tryinf to buy. v1 worked fine instead though

>>19661144
It's explained in the medium article, still requires the whole smart contract writing until people on the Balancer project release their 1-way pooling option.

>>19661160
Someone else posted the solution, just change slippage to a non-round number (like 1.03%)

Dumb question, what is the minimum amount of coin you can put into the pool? Do you get rewarded for leaving your coin in the pool?

So, if there wasn't the deflationary aspect, this coin would eventually come to some sort of stable value that's like an average of BTC, ETH, LINK, and SNX. However, the deflationary aspect adds extra upwards pressure to the price? Am I correct in this?

>>19659971
You're 2k away from being with me in the gangSTA's paradise

https://uniswap.exchange/swap?outputCurrency=0x0e511aa1a137aad267dfe3a6bfca0b856c1a3682

>One-click pooling just got so much more simple.

After much testing and deliberation, we can confirm that BPT is now able to be traded on Uniswap!

What is BPT? BPT is the ticker for Balancer Pool Token, it is your key to the Liquidity Pool. BPT can be removed from the Liquidity Pool at any stage for an equal 20% split of all the five tokens within the Liquidity Pool and is the token we have spoke about in previous Medium articles.

You no longer have to interact with the smart-contract to pool liquidity. To trade BPT on Uniswap, you can either go to our website and click 'Trade' and then 'BPT'; or, you can follow this link to the Uniswap listing:

https://uniswap.exchange/swap?outputCurrency=0x0e511aa1a137aad267dfe3a6bfca0b856c1a3682

It is recommended to use this method instead of the other 'one-click' pooling method which was previously mentioned in Medium articles.

Thanks!

>>19661235
Basically yeah. It keeps pushing the index forward to accumulate and grow.

>>19661237
waiting for the dip anon.

>>19661267
This is exactly what we need to grow the pool

>>19661267
Awesome. Just done it myself, super easy

>>19661431
its been crabbing between 5.5c and 6c for like 2 days now, you might not get one.

>>19661228
There is no minimum. Yes, 1% of the tx fees are added to the pool, so you get your respective percentage of that plus you get BAL mining tokens. Thanos uses arbitrage opportunities so he could theoretically make gains just from balancing. Plus, if one of the five coins sees a rise in price, the pool gets larger

So when we buy bpt that is the pool we’re adding into or do we still need to add bpt on balancer. ?? This is nice. More growth.

>>19661630
The first one

>>19661630
just buy BPT you don't have to do anything else after that

>>19661264
How does trading for it on uniswap put value in the pool?

i have a 14k stack, is it worth pooling? i do want to recover my initial. i'm sorry i know it's been asked many times.

Ok so when I buy BPT it is essentially adding the funds to the pool ...right???

>>19661796
ETH gets sent into the pool and the pool splits it into the 4 other tokens, you get the 'key' to access the pool. It's uniswap doing the job for you.

>>19661850
Yes.

Fuck me this hold is boring as hell

>>19661836
No, if you have a small stack, hold until the value goes up and then you can take your initial out and pool it to secure those gains while still catching big gains on the STA you hold when it moons

>>19661850
>>19661891
Wouldn't it just be like "buying someone else's share of funds"?

>>19661937
300% 3 Days...boring you say?

>>19661993
Nope BPT gets minted when you purchase as far as I know

>>19661993
No, because you have to trade eth for it, so that eth ends up in the pool, or whatever coin you want to use for the trade

>>19661937
Might be boring right now, but you know how quickly that will change once STA gets going again

Okay this is actually fucking clever for now. It gives me exactly the value in DAI my pool share is worth. BASED. It makes this so much easier for people who don't want to fuck with etherscan contracts.

>>19661937
do you have the patience to wait another 2 days, anon?

>>19659073

>>19657693
Thanks for baking bread anon, I fell asleep.

>>19662399
Based and checked

>>19662331
Nice. I have actually made some gains in the balance pool, I put in 2200 worth of STA the other day and $300 of Eth and now I have $3500 worth of bpt if you don't factor in slippage

>>19658454
This anon gets is

>>19658454
This anon gets it

>>19661984
thank you

>>19661866
How when I buy it from uniswap doesn’t the eth just sit in the Uni pool?

what gains are to be had for putting my sta in the balancer??

>>19662491
I'm a bit fucking confused on this.
I put less than an ETH worth into the pool at its peak yesterday, and i'm suddenly up 2 eth despite the price of sta being down.

What the actual fuck. This is what the smart anons has been saying this whole fucking time.....


Guys. When STA is in the green, be sure to pool your tokens to lock in your profit, and when it dumps, you'll just make fucking gains anyways because the balancer will be pumping the pool tokens (your bpt shares)

>>19662759
Yes, someone is providing ETH/BPT liquidity on Uniswap. In the end it doesn't matter, you put ETH in and you get your pool share out. Same thing as the medium article, but instead of writing into the contract to add and remove, you do it on uniswap.

>>19662759
No it goes to the balancer pool contract

>>19662783
see
>>19661588
Adding to the pool is less risk, but potentially less reward in the long term, so you probably wouldn't want to put your entire stack in

>>19662824
There are profits to be made, but that seems crazy. Are you using uniswap to arrive at that figure?

>>19662869
How does it go to the balancer pool when I buy BPT?

>>19662824
This is what it‘s all about, STA price doesnt need to go up indefinitely for you to make cash

>>19662915
Instead of trading with a person, you are trading with the balance pool, bpt for eth

>>19662869
uniswap some sta to bpt and holding that bpt in my metamask is viable?

>>19663049
Yes, that is how it works. Like I said earlier in the thread, if you only have a small stack, I wouldn't pool it yet

>>19663113
I have 370k
may do a small bit

>>19662399
>muh fractal
I’m betting we break downwards

>>19662491
>>19662824
Wait, I'm retarded, I am up, but not by that much

>>19663226
right now alot of cryptos are going down because of the stock market so it means you will also lose a bit of money even if statera holds.

I'm going to throatfuck that faggot discord janny seb (post 3)

>>19663273
he might like it

Moon when???

>>19663113
I'm waiting until 20 cents to pool
I'm sure many others are doing the same (waiting for a higher price.) Once we get some momentum going again things may escalate very quickly

>>19663273
Hot.

>>19658759
>using coinmarketcap in 2020

ngmi

What happens to STA price if BTC crashes badly?

>>19663365
Literally the first thing that popped up when I searched top cryptos by marketcap

>>19663260
Damn, I didn't notice how much BTC had dropped

>>19663415
It would drop by a small percentage of whatever btc drops by

>>19663415
it goes down a bit with it. since it needs to sell the other assets to buy btc

>>19663324
when other cryptos get back up. Right now it's pretty shit for everyone

>>19663415

ETH dropped 5%

LINK dropped 8%, down to $3.99. Ouch.

SNX only 3%

you think we’ll see sub-5 cent anytime soon? i need more cheap staggots

>>19663588
maybe, depends on how much other crypto shits the bed

>>19663588
Anon, I...
Buy while you still can

in at a penny looking to get back in for a penny -2 pennys

>>19663525
When they rebound we will reap the benefits though

>>19661937
Now imagine being in BTC in 2013 and thinking the hold wouldn't pay off and you gave up on it.
Same with ETH in 2015.
Same with LINK in 2017.
Same with SNX in 2019.
>YOU ARE HERE
Same with STA in 2021.

>>19663365
New in the Game. What is better than CoinMarketCap?

>>19663877
This.

>>19663959
coingecko

>>19663877
Checked

EVERYONE THAT HAS BEEN POOLING THE PAST COUPLE DAYS IS NOW IN PROFIT TODAY THROUGH BPT.

Congratulations, bear or bull market cannot fuck this shit up. Welcome, Statera hodlers!

>===================================

!ATTENTION!

>$.000713038

Pic related

Pool Size /.2 =StatShare
StatShare / CircSupply =.0007

>Current Real World Per Token Value $.0007

Fight the Math not Me

>>19664258
can you explain your math a little bit more in layman terms, i dont speak hindi.

>>19664258
That’s not how value is derived. I can prove you’re wrong.

Buy STA for that price and show screenshot.

Remember guys, STA is going to be AT LEAST a top 100 coin

If you're considering buying in now, try not to fret about whether you get in at 5 or 6 cents. Sure, if you wait for a dip you might end up with a bit more STA. But you also run the risk of missing the boat, which will suck a whole lot more, trust me

If you're already bought in, then all you have to do is relax. You will be tempted to sell many times on the way up. But those of us with iron hands will be rewarded in the end

>>19664213
Thanks frens! I just notice notice my Bpt mooning and received is almost the value I gave to thanos, will reinvest on it.
btw Liquidity balancer pool decreased today, any reason?

>>19664333
Checked and top100pilled

>>19664258
The pool size isn't where you calculate the value from retard, you calculate it using marketcap.

FFS, lay off the dope

>>19664333
IRON FUCKING HANDS. See you guys in 2 years

>>19664353
because link eth and btc are losing value so the pool is also going down, its an index after all.

Aaah. I looked through all the other threads but am too brainlet to understand why the STA token is needed.

>>19664366
Not really. This'll hit $1 this year itself.

>>19664399
Then you didn't look through them, because we just had this conversation with fudders a few hours ago

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

>>19663877
>>19662399
Another blessed thread

>>19664422
I'm not stopping at 1$

>>19664333
>>19664366
>>19664422
CHECKED

>>19664478
>>19664333

>>19664281
>>19664290
>>19664363

No one can debate the MATH. How fucking Scared are you guys?

>>19664516
not at all, learn2math first you brainlet

Hey look its an important post

>>19664516
Buy it for that price then. Market dictates value you commie PoS

>>19664538
>Pool Size /.2 =StatShare
>StatShare / CircSupply =.0007
>>Current Real World Per Token Value $.0007


SEETHE Harder Pajeet, Input the numbers yourself Ranjeesh.

>>19664563
Eat more curry, take your PnD elsewhere. On /biz/ some of us actually do MATH real world adult stuff, go back to robinHood Sanjeesh.

>>19664462
I didn't actually clear anything up for me. They just insulted each other over strawmen without making much sense.

>>19664564
>328k / 0.2 = 65.600
>65.600 / 18.400.000 = 0.0035$
>bitcoin should be worth 0.0035$
>it's 9.4k
?

>>19664564
>pool size * 300000 = statshare
>statshare^234(3.14159265359)^2=YourMomsVaginaSize
>YourMomsVaginaSize/2 = token value
This bees the proper way

>>19664618
If you are looking to pay your cable bill with your tokens, you should probably stick with fiat investing

>>19664656
LMAO HAHAHAH

WOW, JUST WOW

>THE CURRENT STATE OF /BIZ/LETS


Bitcoin doesn't get it's value from the pool, much else anything except speculation and muh' mining costs. You have answered your own question, though you will never understand that you did, ignorance can be bliss, keep using your ignorance to your advantage.

>>19664681
What are you 12 yrs old ffs? Giving Financial Advice on paying CABLE BILLS to another anon hahahahahahahaha

>>19664773
>statera value is only because it's in the pool
>missing the whole point of the system behind it
It's not the token, or the pool. In the end the market still decides what something is worth.
>muh (wrong) math

>>19664910
You described Muh' Feelings

I should you MATH

>>19664258
The current real world price is literally what the market value is, what ppl are willing to pay. Not some convoluted math equation you came up with randomly. Dumbass

>>19664258

Hi vampire. You really are an autistic nut job.

>>19664962
It's called Valuation. It's a pretty big deal with Adults. You have to be trolling You never heard nor understood simple Valuation. Come on bro, really?

huh, a wild pajeet in our thread.
where did he come from?

>>19664773

> the real value of statera is based off my math equation

holy fuck you are the retarded one here. quit talking out your fucking ass if you aren't even holding the token.

And the pool tokens prices are valued by fucking speculation just like everything in the crypto market. Fuck off you retard

>>19657693
>>Where do I put my liquidity?
Why I should put my liquidity in that place instead of holding my STA in my current wallet?
How do I sell STA if it comes the moment?

>>19665112
Search the thread, I have answered that question twice in here. You sell STA the same way you buy it

>>19665109
You didn't even debate the MATH, I assume because it had some big numbers in there it scared you. That's ok you can be scared, not judging people here like you.

Put the numbers in yourself, if that is too hard, I did it for you a few posts back.

>=======================
Protip for EVERYONE

If people attack you and not the Information, guess what that means?


p.s. they'll continue to attack me cause the MATH has them seething like the rest of the Liberal SJW crowd who hates facts and math.

>>19665222

>>19665247
>p.s. they'll continue to attack me cause the MATH has them seething like the rest of the Liberal SJW crowd who hates facts and math.

>>19665222

You're the only sjw here trying to defend your own fucking math. Why should I debate with you over your retarded math? Apply that equation to any fucking coin/token -- it means absolutely nothing because speculation is what drives price valuation. Not your retarded math. Fuck off pajeet

>>19665190
So I swap again to ETH and send these ETH to my wallet, I guess.
I have 4K STA, so maybe I should wait to put liquidity, should I?

>>19665309
and another Pajeet shows up.
>p.s. they'll continue to attack me cause the MATH has them seething like the rest of the Liberal SJW crowd who hates facts and math.

With the red day we're currently having, would it be a good idea to buy some bpt with link or eth today? Once they go back up, Thanos will have to buy more STA, correct?

>>19665283
dude you speak in broken english and your "fud" is so shit it makes me bullish that some pajeets fucking 2nd grade "calculation" is the best fud that appears in these thread. disgusting fucking streetshitter.

WHERE IS THE BALANCER TAB??

>>19665314
Yes, wait until the price goes up to secure profits and grow the pool.

Riddle me This PAJEETS and Ranjeeshs.

>Prove to Us, not me, but to everyone here on /biz/ that the Statera Team IS NOT from India.

If you can I'll take my Modern World Math elsewhere.

>>19665341
I believe this is correct

>>19665345
Keep attacking me instead of learning.
>NGMI

>>19665353
https://noproxy.pools.balancer.exchange/#/pool/0x0e511Aa1a137AaD267dfe3a6bFCa0b856C1a3682

>>19665335

> 11 posts
> muh math

schizo

I have just re-read the thread and I feel inclined to agree with the guy calling all this a ponzi. But I am already knee-deep in this shit (holding over 50k STA) and don't know what do think. Aaaaaaaah. Why was I born without a brain.

>>19665389
>Is indian
>Shits on everything, including Indians
kek

>>19665415
"learning" fuck you ranjeet, people like you made an anon sell early and lose out on 10k.
streetshitting fucking subhuman

>>19665421
fuck sake shat it there. Thanks kind sir!

>>19665431
>>p.s. they'll continue to attack me cause the MATH has them seething like the rest of the Liberal SJW crowd who hates facts and math.

like clockwork, what time is it in India?

>>19665415
You claim the “math”. But the mathematics you are doing does not derive market price. Proof. You can’t buy STA for what you say it should be worth.
I’m not attacking you but your idea is misguided.

>>19665505
Plus I know you’ll ignore my posts.

>>19665477

Even if your math is right, it doesn't fucking matter because everyone that pooled STA, regardless of price, is still making money through the balancer.

So please, fuck off

>>19665415

You are making a fool out of yourself faggot.
It seems like you think you're a very clever boi, the opposite is true.

>>19665540
Typical commie.

There's not one day we go without some fucking retard shitting up the thread with nonsense arguments.
>statera search word data on google
>ghostx shitcoin scammer claiming he made millions with half an ETH in his wallet
>schizo math pajeet
Jesus fuck if you're not invested in this project why the fuck do you even bother? everything is red, buy the dip and shut the fuck up or be gone

>>19665453
it is a ponzi just like most stocks are. but its tracking things like eth and link and snx which are not really ponzis since they will create applications and services that drives the price so the token will receive its valuation in accordance to those.

>>19665540
>>19665558

Him not you

>>19665505
Ok a little better engagement. Close, Valuation and Price often do not equal. It's called a buying or selling opportunity. Natural Order will win out in the end. How soon could be days, could be years. I just want people to do Math every once in awhile here.

>>19665536
Thank you, Math is always right. Now how soon other holders figure that out, well let's see.

>>19664258
I don't believe in all the name calling here, but I am happy to set you straight about your math here. You incorrectly inputed the number of STA in the pool. If you put in the correct number you will see that the valuation is always BY DEFINITION the currently valuation that uniswap gives. That is because the arb bot in the pool is constantly looking at every pair of tokens and when the cost in the pool differs significantly from the cost on uniswap (both v1 and v2), then it swaps so that is realigns with the uniswap price. that is what "Sthanos" is constantly doing. So the price you calculate using your method will always be the uniswap price.

I'll re-do your math according to the current pool to show you. The current pool is worth: $325,787.95. Multiply by .2 and you get $65,157.59. This is the valuation of the STA portion. Divide by the total number of STA in the pool = $65,157.59/1179291.79 = $0.05525. Check uniswap.info for price. The price is $0.0577. These will always be quite close (the balancer allows for slight differences and only arbs when the total gain is more than 1%).


What drives the uniswap price? People here are absolutely correct: supply and demand. Speculation.

>>19665591
But your doing math and thinking that result is what STA is worth. But that is not how value is determined. If it was bitcoin would be worth zero.

>>19665559
>Math is Nonsensical LMAO

just kys now, save the planet

I'm pretty sure it was around 340k earlier. Weak hand got out?

>>19665621
Appreciate the real response.

There is additional potential dilution outside the pool. It can not be excluded, how do you recommend we capture?

>>19665621
Oh, and for the record, I have a PhD in this area. This is a very valid project. I sometimes read these threads and realize that both sides are often not understanding very well what this is. I know saying stupid shit on 4chan is a long tradition, but please check things before you post. And show a little humility. You might have just made a mistake is all.

>>19665693
its going down because btc link eth and snx have been going down

>>19665648
Math makes sense when applied with context. You just threw numbers on a calculator and pulled out a value out of your ass, on top of shitting up the thread like the last 4 retards with nonsense.

Are you invested in STA? Yes? You think it's going to 0.00007$? Sell and get the fuck out.

Are you not invested in STA? why the fuck do you even care for our financial well being? Or do you just want cheap bags? Protip, it's not gonna happen - try a bit harder and fud with legit facts, if you can.

>>19665693
Assets in the pool have decreased in value

>>19665719
Thanks. I was once again getting worried for nothing. We really are betting on a potential crypto bullrun, then.

>>19665695
>>19665536
>>19665621
>>19665640

Natural Order Will win, eradicating fucking retards like yourself. You did not need to shit post 12 times to figure out what the fuck was wrong with your retarded math you fucking idiot fudder. maybe fucking listen next time and shut the fuck up you fucking retard. no one wants you holding sta.

>>19665725
His math was incorrect. And frankly his calculations are pointless because they are driven by the uniswap price and not the other way around. The pool will realign to the uniswap price. Always. That is how it works. The question, then, is what drives the uniswap price? And the answer is speculation on the entire project determined by supply and demand for the token.

>>19665756
Yes and that's precisely why one can simply not go wrong with sta coz the btc bullrun is inevitable not to mention, sta's own bullrun in the coming couple of months and beyond.

>>19665765
My MATH Still stands, where was i wrong on the Valuation?

But yeah KEEP ATTACKING ME you liberal sjw freak

>>19665785
>>19665785
Holy Fuck FAKE NEWS already.

MATH STILL STANDS

>>19665822
Read my post. You put in the wrong number of STA. You probably added a digit or something. If you did the math correctly it will always be the uniswap price. That is how the arb bot and balancer works.

>>19665822

No it doesnt and i've linked you to all the fucking responses why your math does not fucking stand you dumb fucking idiot

>>19665864
wrong

what a fucking ponzi

>>19665860
Your math does not stand. I just re-did the calculations in my post. Did I make an error? because you did with the number of STA you divided by.

>>19665864
Why do you even bother. We know his math is wrong. He's the only one who keeps defending it thinking some idiots will fall for it and sell.

Shows you what kinda fud they have to resort to when none is available.

>>19665890
Then just show me where I am wrong. Simple. You are the one who demands evidence. I showed you where you are wrong. Very specifically. You also do not seem to understand how the balancer pool works and where it derives value from.

>>19665900
>>19665905

SEETHE HARDER

Pool Size /.2 =StatShare
StatShare / CircSupply =.0007

and noone not one person can confirm the Statera team is NOT from India?

>>19665931
Based.

>>19665999
>StatShare / CircSupply
That should be
>StatShare / pool supply

>>19666007
James Bond speaks the truth.

>>19666017
Ya. The guy is fuding ignore him.

>>19665999
Thanks. Your 93542242 is not the right number. That is where you are wrong. Correct that and you will get the correct price. But like I said it is a pointless exercise because the pool just matches the uniswap price (which is driven by buying and selling).

>>19665999
I thought indians were supposed to be good at math???
Why would you divide the pool size by 0.2 instead of multiplying by 5? What the fuck are you trying to do?
Where did you go to school? Community college in a Gabonese shanty town?

>>19665999
>>19665725
On top of you being wrong, it's funny how you dodge questions. Can we get an answer? Are you invested in STA or not? Why the fuck are you even here

>>19665577
Checked. But I was thinking about the STA token itself and why it is needed. Nobody ever really answers it but only insults while referring to older "arguments" that are just strawmen and the same kind of insults referring to older conversations, which are more insults. Why isn't this in the OP?

I’ve been supportive of statera from day one, but I’m curious how much of a liability relying on balancer is? It’s basically the most important aspect of statera but also feels like a potential weak link.

>>19665999
>>19665822
>>19665477
>>19665222

My above Posts have been blessed. MATH and NATURAL keep winning.

>>19666076
actually he did multiply, he just typed it wrong in the post. It's the STA number that is wrong. OK I'm done. Hopefully everyone can see how he is wrong. I know he is just stirring shit up, but some people actually care about accurate information.

>>19666007
>666
>007
What a based pair

>>19666094
It’s needed for access to the index fund. Truth be told most crypto’s are not needed. In fact the only one that’s really needed is ETH for transactions. Nothing else is needed.

Pool Size /.2 =StatShare
StatShare / CircSupply =.0007

CAN ANYONE CONFIRM THE STATERA TEAM IS NOT FROM INDIA??????

>>19666110
Yes. You are right. It’s easy to see and the guy won’t leave it.

>>19666094
well because it is a deflationary token it should exert a small constant upward pressure on the total valuation of the pool. If supply slowly shrinks, and demands stays constant (or increases), the valuation of the token should increase. That is it's main function. But people are speculating on the entire package which uses both the balancer system for an index fund, with an arb bot that does the rebalancing automatically. Like nearly all of crypto, it is the idea that is appealing, and that is where the token gets its value from.

>>19666101
Why is it a liability or weak point? I find the opposite is true

>>19666150
yes team is from India.
Yes your math is incontrovertible.
Thanks for making it clear.
Just sold 100k.

>>19666150
Confirmed shizo street shitter.
It is ignoring all the reasons why his dumbass math is wrong and is just shitting the fuck up the thread with curry and goats cum. Fuck out of here dog fucker

imagine living in india and not being able to eat a steak. that alone would make me want to neck myself

>>19666188
So what you're saying is that the token is literally not needed and it's an elaborate ponzi scam?

>>19666248
The team is literally a high iq white non jew man and a high iq nigger. This has been fucking known forever and it's ridiculous to say otherwise you dumb fuck fudders

its all so tiresome...

>>19666371
prove it

>>19666365
>muh token not needed
no it's not made to be ETH 2.0 or claims to solve any fucking problem. It's a speculative, deflationary token linked with a pool that burns more and more the more this token is traded.
Why is BTC needed? Why is it worth 10k?

This token does one thing: Makes you more money the earlier you get in. Fucking damnit some of you deserve to stay poor.

$1 2021
$10 2022
$100 2023

>Pool Size 323,442.51 multiplied by .2 equals the Statera Value in Pool

>Value in Pool is 64,688.502 (This is where Statera sees it's value)

> 64,688.502 divided by Circulating Supply 93,512,271 = .000691

The Valuation is now down to $.00069

>>19666440
Don't fucking need to cause everyone thats been following the team knows this you fucking retard.

You got me fucked up if you think i'm going to spoon feed a crypto nigger pajeet like your fucking pathetic self. You fucking spoonfeeding, red rocket cock sucking mother fucker

Do your own fucking research you fucking low life shit streeter scum. If you can't even bother to DYOR then do us all a favor and go take a shit in someone else's thread you fucking schizo street shitter

>>19666567
You are unhinged, MATH should not anger you, it should enlighten.

>>19666567
well said sir!
I could not have said it better myself!

>>19666564

Evaluate bitcoin and ethereum
Then tell me why it's not priced where it should be

DUMB FUCKING PAJEET

>>19666469
>this will inevitably become reality
>everything is already set in motion with no stopping in sight
>holders keep growing
>BTC bullrun coming any time soon

>>19666564
>93,512,271
Why are you dividing by the total number of circulating coins instead of the coins in the pool? What you are doing makes no sense. Not all the coins are in the pool and it makes no sense to create a "valuation" that they are. Only a small fraction are in the pool.

seems the number of addresses is not growing that much anymore but maybe I'm wrong?

>>19666712
i think it has slowed down a little bit, but its not really well known outside of biz right now so its fine.

>>19666740
How do coins get known when they leave /biz/? Big exchange listing like on Coinbase or binance? Massive shilling?
I did all I could to shill it among friends. But how could the token get traction? Get someone to talk about it?

>>19666692

>Hey guys your Statera is only worth something if it's in the Pool , ok guys, ok...guys...g-gguys??

>>19666790
leddit
exchanges
crypto forums
twitter
faceberg
literally anywhere you can find crypto shitters is fine as long as they get the idea.

>>19666790
It's a new coin, this crabbing is due to lack of news. Stable price to new investors means they don't know what will happen - Devs are working on audit and more exchanges, but it's been quiet the last 2 days. Nobody buying, nobody selling. Total burnt supply also slowed down quite a bit. More news are coming though, and once they do, we lift off again.

>>19666564
You can see the STA in the pool, in order to figure out the value you can just go 0.2(325975/1174814) = 0.5549
And that's the value of STA in cents.
Absolute spastic.

>>19666858
>>Hey guys your Statera is only worth something if it's in the Pool

lmao, can't have it both ways

>>19666858
Correction to 0.05549, obviously

>>19666887
Literally only you saying that, it's obviously worth the market price. What do you even do with your life when you're not using all 40 of your IQ to post on /biz/? Eat paint?

>>19666818
Yeah that makes absolutely no sense. You do realize that if we speculate on this, the value of Statera will go up and you can run your exact same calculations and the valuation will also go up because the pool will be worth more as a whole. You seriously have NO IDEA how to do this. I know you are just trying to fud to get the price down but it should be apparent that your logic is atrocious.

>>19666942
>>19666952


Happy Now?

PoolSize(.2)/CircSupply=TotalDilutedValuation
CurrentTokenPrice/TotalDilutedValue=RiskFactor

This bread is almost done so someone get ready to bake the new one.

Guys I have 20k STA

Is it worth it to pool? (Which I beleive is simply swapping for bpt on uniswap?)

>>19666952

Don't bother, he did not read any of the responses that invalidates his retarded math. Literally nothing you can do but filter out this fucker

>>19667041
No, wait til the price goes up and then add a percentage if you want

>>19667079
SEETHE harder

PoolSize(.2)/CircSupply=TotalDilutedValuation
CurrentTokenPrice/TotalDilutedValue=RiskFactor

Me for the past two days buying all the dips to 5.5 cent and waiting for more dips plz must buy my precious me needs precioussssssssss

>>19667005
A bit better but I'm not sure those numbers are much good to you.
Firstly you would have to consider the token burn in the diluted valuation as if 100% of it were to change hands you'd end up with 99% of what it was before the transaction.
Secondly none of this accounts for the balancer's ability to create its own demand for STA in the event of a dump and jack the price up. At values below a cent, with this much money in the pool its own demand for STA could cause the price to increase so much that it would continually swing trade massive amounts until the balancer was huge and the price hit a stable high point again.

Should I panick sell? I’ve lost so much money today

>>19667329
Dearheart, the market will recover. Never buy a stock you aren't willing to hold on to for years.

>>19667329
You're that person who showed up in every thread. Imagine typing panic "panick" you fucking fudder nigger faggot piece of shit pajeet

>>19667329
no, this is a long term comfy hold, just 11 days old my man.

>>19667115

You're basing the price of uniswap's arb bot. Fool.
The token price itself is total speculation. Supply/Circulation _does not matter_
Why do you think STA has been so volatile... it's in price discovery you fool

someone needs to bake new bread noooooooooow
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>19667115

This is the current price of Statera's index fund. Pic related. It was literally $800 2 days ago.

So you can fuck off with your idea of what STA's price should be because of your flawed math.

>>19667396
If someone else isn't making it by 22:00, I'll do it.

>>19667462
Pray to your Cult Harder faggot

>>19667462

> WHY IS BITCOIN 9K
> WHY IS ETHEREUM 200$
> WHY IS STATERA'S INDEX FUND TOKEN $1,100 THOUSAND FUCKING DOLLARS

Shut the fuck up and get the fuck in

>>19667462
Retarded question here. Why shouldn't I just buy BPT riding on Statera 'success?

>>19667486

As American as apple pie baby

Yes should I buy Statera or bpt?

>>19667493
>Protip for EVERYONE

>If people attack you and not the Information, guess what that means?

what the hell guys, why it's still cancelling my transactions? crypto newfag here
yesterday tried to buy some more STA through ETH and got canncelled after 10h of waiting and today again after sth like ~3 hours.. made it on Uniswap V1 with 1.5% slippage price

>>19667576
You didn't ask a question nor ask for debate about your post.

You brain is broken bro

>>19667563
Statera if you don't own a stack already

>>19667520

BPT should theoretically drop a bit when STA starts pumping. The best time to pool STA for BPT is when STA is pumping & in the green because it locks in your profits through BPT. if that makes sense. So, when STA does dump, you have liquidity to cash out in profit through BPT. True Balance.

>>19667623
>Protip for EVERYONE
>If people attack you and not the Information, guess what that means?
The fucking irony
>>19667493
>>19667493

>>19667699
It doesn't drop when STA pumps, it pumps but at a significantly lower

>>19666110

Thanks, PhD anon.

>>19667486

Kindly check of the stones achieved thus far in the OP.

GUYS WE WILL BE RICH

Market recovery + audit + new exchange possibly at the same time and we will shoot to 10c. Then a couple of influencers after that and we are at 25c easily.

>>19666667
>>19666666

Everyone but pajeets, please migrate!
>>19667618
>>19667618
>>19667618

>>19667731

>>19667731

>>19667731

NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD

>>19668136
Wtf delete this kek

>>19668239
Someone was already baking I guess. The other one someone made is already rolling, although it is mostly because the fudders are back