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I'm putting this together to give everybody here the best possible information and allow them to make informed decisions.

First up, It's undisputed now that Josh did Copy + Paste the Pivx white paper, Josh has also admitted that he outsourced all the dev work to for the ghost project:

https://medium.com/@switchag/addressing-the-pivx-allegations-e1adf85d4aa

This leads to some serious questions as to who the initial dev team hired to work on Ghost actually are, as Ashkay was only approached by Josh AFTER the Pivx white-paper scandal was first published, this can be backed up by looking through Ashkay's twitter post history where he makes clear his distain towards the GHOST project and accuses them of Plagiarism prior to being hired.

https://twitter.com/akshaycm2861

Pivx have then informed the Ghost team that there is a serious security flaw based on the Zerocoin implementations in the white paper, Pivx have stated themselves that their own solutions to this bug won't be implemented until at least Q4 2020

Josh had overhyped the arrival of Ashkay in the telegram group and marketed this acquisition as pinching one of Pivx's star devs and made it clear that Ashkay is the most senior core dev working within the Ghost project. Eric from Pivx has made it clear on twitter that Ashkay is out of his depth and is incapable of resolving this security flaw

https://twitter.com/eric_stanek/status/1264002676435685376

It's pretty clear by now that dev work on the Ghost project hasn't even started yet. Come May 25th all bag holders are going to get is a worthless ERC20 placeholder token, There will be no main net anytime soon and the Ghost team clearly do not have the funds, resources or competence to put out a working mainnet anytime soon.

At this point the whole thing is a nothing more than a disorganised shambolic mess and a total PR disaster.
At this point a 25th of May ESH dump is looking more and more likely.

>> No.19290601
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19290601

>>19290576
Thanks

>> No.19290607

>>19290576
Don't care, give me ghosties

>> No.19290609

>>19290576

Fuck off you piece of shit fud

Its been in the making for 2 years already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ixUZnR_wk

>> No.19290629

>>19290609
lol it took 2 years to copy and paste a whitepaper? hahaha ghosties are literally retarded.

>> No.19290638

>>19290629

Watch the video retard fuck

>> No.19290674

>>19290638
wipe the cum off your face anon. Your desperation is showing. McAfee has another load to blow. Open wide!

>> No.19290698

>>19290674

No intelligent refutation

Ignored

Fuck off noob

>> No.19290716

>>19290609
I just skipped randomly through this video.

He says that GHOST will ONLY run on McAfee dex!! hahahaha!! my fucking sides!! ghosties gonna get rekt, your basicially buying into the definition of a ponzi scheme, its a coin that can only be used on HIS exchange bahaha

lord give me strength.

>> No.19290731

You’re gonna get ghosted. Airdrop will happen, but over time McAfee will grow quieter about ghost until everyone but you forgets about it. Sucks to hold bags in a bull market.

>> No.19290739

>>19290698
White paper was plagiarized. They don't know the difference between Zerocoin and zk-SNARKS. All devs are outsourced to third world countries. If they can't write about it, they sure as fuck can't build it. McAfee is a crackhead scammer. GHOST team is now trying to desperately hire devs, to the point they hired a community dev with only 6 commits. They can't even vet their own staff. ESH is a shitcoin picked to make Josh and McAfee a lot of money after they pumped it 200x, and now have dumped all that on your noob ass. What else do you need to know anon? You still have a little cum dribbling off your chin. You need a tissue?

>> No.19290763

>>19290716
McAfee def is an ether delta clone. It’s the same smart contract with a new front end. Don’t believe me? Check for yourself. Now ask yourself how a Pivx fork coin can be traded via smart contract calls on the ETH network.... it can’t. Kek. Fags will say dumb shit like
>muh bridge tokens
But you’d have to be completely retarded to think buying privacy coins on the ETH network makes any damn sense. It’s a scam ffs

>> No.19290784

The fear and fud against this coin is unbelievable

It must have you gay ass boot lickers shaking

LMFAO

>> No.19290785

>>19290763
lol I only knew that mcafee dex basically had zero traffic, further now you mention it is a clone of fordelta (I dont use it much) as well as switch identical GUI too.

Fuck man, monday is going to be hilarious.

>> No.19290802

Xgm is everything ghost wants to be

>> No.19290807

>>19290784
oh yea, your desperation is showing again anon. No intelligent refutation kek. Yea, we are all soooo jealous of your -90% shitcoin scam. Get a life you retard. McAfee took your lunch money and you are not getting it back.

>> No.19290814

>>19290807

You only wish fucknut

Go suck your superiors cock

>> No.19290821

>>19290785
Yes! Nobody uses it cause it’s clunky and slow as fuck.... just like ether delta! Every time you place an order or execute a trade it’s a transaction on the ETH network. It’s a true def, but the same old dex. Nothing new here. You can’t trade a Coin from a Pivx fork chain on ethereum though.... if he’s saying that...yikes

>> No.19290850

>>19290814
Anon, I can't understand you with McAfee's dick so far down your throat. Can you take his dick out for a second so you can express yourself clearly? Don't worry, you can go back to deep throating it soon enough.

>> No.19290979

Don’t worry. We will have big announcements and major pumps coming.

>> No.19291038

>>19290979
wake up dude. nothing can save this right now. it's gonna dump hard.

>> No.19291046

>>19290979
I'm sure you do Josh. Here is the announcement I am looking forward to seeing: ESH down to $0.05 and holders waiting for airdrop loose 99%.

>> No.19291170

>>19290807
-verisafe
-wavesbet
-clearpoll (which was used for scamming before)

All these were 'acquired' but switch, following the dump, so theres some truth.

-Not actually having a dev team.
-'onboarding' someone who was slamming the project only 4 days prior to being onboarded.
-whitepaper heavily plagarised, and reads like shit, not 2 years worth of work.
-Josh calls himself a head developer and founder, following PRIVX whitepaper, he announces publicly he ISNT a dev.
-Further in this 'blog' where he states that he is so vague about the devs that its like he isnt even involved in what they are doing, sounds like something you would do for your own company?
-The fact following the dump the chart is being heavily manipulated, that the top holding wallets are just accumulating and little fishies being squeezed out until the remaining 10% holders at the mercy of the 90% whales.
-the fact switch website incomplete, lazy buggy shit everywhere, images of crypto not maching tickers on the exchange.
-the fact your getting your ESH held hostage on the premise you will be airdropped GHOST, a not even finished project yet, because your getting an ERC20 'placeholder' (IOU).

Intelligent refutable evidence enough for you?

Please someone copy paste this shit im tired of laying down the actual FACTS that you can go and verify all these points above yourself.

>> No.19291190

>>19290576
Pivx have then informed the Ghost team that there is a serious security flaw based on the Zerocoin implementations in the white paper,

- we aren't using PIVX lmao. wait and see... GHOST is a top 25 coin

Marketed this acquisition as pinching one of Pivx's star devs

- he is a talented developer who's worked on several projects and contributed to PIVX core, great addition to the team as a mid level developer. anyone who works as a community dev has a passion for it.

Ghost team clearly do not have the funds, resources or competence to put out a working mainnet anytime soon.
- if you only knew...

At this point the whole thing is a nothing more than a disorganised shambolic mess and a total PR disaster.
- is it? keeping marketing for us ;), more posts, more articles, more drama, all for free

>> No.19291211

>>19291170
Nicely done anon, but you can't educate a retard. You can dick slap them across the face with all the evidence in the world, and they will still get on their knees and open wide for the next McAfee load.

>> No.19291227

>>19291190
Josh why are you spending so much time on 4chan and not working on your project? Are you that desperate?

>> No.19291285

>>19291227
I like to see what you guys talk about lol. it's entertaining

>> No.19291287

>>19291190
>we aren't using PIVX
Then what are you using son?
Becaus even Mcafee admits it's a Pivx fork.

>contributed to PIVX core
Sorry, but
@akshaycm2861
is a PIVX 'Community Dev' and not a PIVX Core Dev. Huge difference.

It’s like saying you hired the head Chef when all ya got was the bus boy.

https://twitter.com/eric_stanek/status/1264002676435685376

>Ghost team clearly do not have the funds, if you only knew..
Please enlighten all of us and tell us where these funds are, Do you have any Idea how much High quality devs cost to hire?

>> No.19291352

>>19291285
red flag alert. Josh spends more time on /biz/ desperately shit posting instead of working on his own project. Josh, feeling the pressure yet? The scam not going according to plan? How does McAfee's cum taste? Ready for another load?

>> No.19292078

>>19291285
Josh, ran out of things to say to defend your scam? Or are you curled up in a corner crying that you didn't have time to sell your worthless tokens above $2?

>> No.19292291

>>19291285
Josh? You there or did you KYS?

>> No.19292430

>>19290716
Imagine not knowing shit about privacy coins. There is a reason it’s only run on mcafee dex because there is no KYC or centralized figure distributing coins, like Monero, which people argue isn’t a privacy coin because of it.

>>19290763
Ever heard of a bridged chain, idiot?

>> No.19292438

>>19292291
11 posts. All shit. Go outside anon.

>> No.19292462

>>19292430
hahahaha can JOSH be any more of a retard? The desperation is hilarious.

>> No.19292480

>>19290716
Guess who gets transaction fees for mcafeedex? Could it be ESH holders?

>> No.19292505

>>19292480
There needs to be volume in order to charge fees. Literally nobody is using that shitshow of an exchange.

>> No.19292512

>>19291190
some of the shittiest shilling I’ve seen

>> No.19292528

>>19292462
12 posts by this ID, okay no ghostie

>> No.19292533

>>19292438
I am outside. I am sitting on my patio, with a cold drink and really enjoying the ESH GHOST meltdown happening before my eyes.

>> No.19292539

>>19290576
Just drop it, nobody with any decent amount of money is going to invest in this garbage. Everybody you are interacting with is a paid shill or has 500$ to their name. Mccaffe is a serial shitcoin pump and dumper and everybody knows it. He is hurting for money, badly. Its a transparent moneygrab.

>> No.19292566

>>19292539
Anon, you’re mistaken. I have 7k in this that is 28k now

>> No.19292592

>>19292528
thanks for noticing. I am having a great time calling you retards out. Your tears and desperation are realllly amusing.

>> No.19292619

>>19292291
I did kill myself. It was all a part of the prophecy. I have revived... as a GHOST

>> No.19292631

>>19292592
Tears of joy anon, I’m up 20k, and unlike you who sold the bottom, I bought my GHOSTIES no cheap that I will simply never go negative

>> No.19292644

>>19292566
>thinking 7K or 28K is significant money
Take profits while your ahead champ, its called a pump and dump for a reason.

>> No.19292708

>>19292619
so you are literally a retard? oh man GHOST is fucked.

>> No.19292739

>>19292619
whats mcafees plan i see hes not shilling on twitter

>> No.19292777

>>19290576
Ok.
See you at 100$/GHOST

>> No.19292833

>>19292739
even McAfee doesn't know what to do here. His scam was exposed by PIVX for the whole world to see. He didn't think anybody would notice. Now nothing he can say will help. Him saying he will take PIVX to court after he admitted he copied and pasted the whitepaper show anybody with 2 brain cells what a clown he really is.

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19292878

>>19292430
the absolute delusion...

Guy, friend..my-maneeee

Real talk.

Switchdex & mcafeedex are carbon copies of forkdelta, which operates on the ETH chain/network.

So tell me, when your GHOST eventually drops, no, I dont mean monday, when the FINAL product is ready, for your use, that uses aa completely different baselayer (MW) to ethereum.

Tell me, how are you going to trade exclusively your ghosties, on an ETH platform...

Dont try and speculate about the technology for interoperability, it doesnt exist in this application, its just more wishful thinking.

In terms of your 'dividends', lets take a look.
Volume was trading at 4million yday, mcap 13mill.

Today, we are looking at a vol of 500k, and a 9mill mcap, sounds like something gathering momentum to me boys! but it gets better, of this ACTUAL volume of exchananges people use, a large portion is happening on idex.

So tell me friend, when most the transactions for the token are happening on other exchanges, how much dividend are you going to get do you think?

Is it enough to cover the purchase of ERS @ $2, when its NPV (net present value because I assume your are entirely uneducated) is sub 0.05c? Will your dividends accomodate for that?

I'll just let this post marinade.

>> No.19292920

>>19290609
>is it better than monero... no
>then why do we run it ... cause it's on mcafee dex

That's all well and good. He wants his own complete ecosystem. Good for him

He admitted in the video it's not as good as monero and never will be cause it's only PoS.

GHOST won't make anyone filthy rich, cause no one uses mcafee dex. It's one of the least used dex in the world.

I've sold all mine, and for a loss too might I add. That video just gave me some piece of mind that I wasn't losing out on the next big security coin.

The Switch team puts me off also. They are all so unprofessional and amateur, I wish they'd act a bit more professional, rather than acting like a college group of compsci students who are trying to market something. I'm fine with them forking the whitepaper, that's not my problem. It was the sentence copying, word for word. You couldn't just spend a week re-writing it with only key words copied? There were phrases in the whitepaper which didn't contain any terminology that were copied. It's just so shit

>> No.19292958

>>19292878
>>19292920
Real talk here. I would like to see anybody refute this. GHOST and ESH never had a chance. All they had was some hype before anybody knew any better, and then PIVX came along and dick slapped the shit out of McAfee with a single tweet. I believe this is the first time in crypto history where 1 tweet caused a -85% dump.

>> No.19292977

>>19292833
>>19292958
Mcafees respons was apt and sufficient to reverse the fall.

>> No.19292998

>>19292977
No it wasn't and it didn't reverse anything. What is the price right now? $0.83 on IDEX? Ouch your delusion is sad.

>> No.19293052

>>19292977

For people without any understanding of anything, ever. Maybe.

From a technology/block-chain standpoint, no his responses weren't. He didn't address anything and actively said how the current system is pretty shit. However it's 'HIS' piece of shit, so it's okay.

From a marketing standpoint, his response was also terrible, because he's using a shitty 480p webcam and shaking like he needs his next dose. His body language and constant adverseness to the camera make him look untrustworthy. This probably doesn't matter too much to us, but, to normies they'll genuinely look at that and go wtf man, this guy looks like a crack head. Which he is, but I mean, you're trying to sell the future of security trading here.

>> No.19293068

>>19292998
fuck yes it did, is semen blinding your sight?

>> No.19293070

>>19290609
WTF
only run on mcafee dex?!!!
That exchange is so shitty l tried buying esh there and my order didn't even get sent. Fuck no man.

SELL SELL SELL ALL
SELL

>> No.19293087

>>19293052
talking about the two sentence tweet you fucknut. It conveyed the correct sentinment of "what the fuck does it matter if it's a fork anyway"

>> No.19293110

>>19293070
GHOST will be transfarable to an ERC20 token on ethereum, making it tradable everywhere. If this is your first time using Ethereum, please get acquainted with the ecosystem.

>> No.19293137

>>19293068
show me where the fall was reversed. Price was around $2.40 before the tweet, and now the price is $0.79. So get McAfee's dick out of your mouth so you can start thinking clearly.

>> No.19293164

>>19290576
Didn't they say they will announce / reveal a member of the dev team tomorrow? I wonder who it'll be or if it's going to be legit.

>> No.19293168

>>19293137
the immediate trend was reversed. Some time went by from the tweet where other forced shaped the price you projecting dickswallower

>> No.19293206

>>19293087
Calm down man, no need to get angry.

>> No.19293673

>>19293206
The salt in this thread is hilarious

>> No.19293829

>>19292739
ESH isn't his, GHOST is

>> No.19293865

>>19293829
ESH under $0.73 on IDEX. REKT

>> No.19294479

Fuck RIP ESH

>> No.19294499

Reminder right now there is a massive whale discord that has a select process of vetting members to manipulate the price of ESH.

They all must have upwards of 20k esh in order to join.

Since the very beginning, these whales have gone to extreme efforts to suppress the price of ESH and accumulate before GHOST is released.

Do you really believe that a tweet from PIVX made ESH price drop 100%+?

This was a coordinated dump meant for weak hands.

>> No.19294539

>>19294499
Yes can confirm, I am part of this group. We decided to dump it all now while there is still liquidity and trap all traders that are waiting for airdrop. You will see it down under $0.50 soon.

>> No.19294550 [DELETED] 

>>19294499
>Reminder right now there is a massive whale discord that has a select process of vetting members to manipulate the price of ESH.
>They all must have upwards of 20k esh in order to join.
>Since the very beginning, these whales have gone to extreme efforts to suppress the price of ESH and accumulate before GHOST is released.
>Do you really believe that a tweet from PIVX made ESH price drop 100%+?
>This was a coordinated dump meant for weak hands.

This guy is from the Tranny Discord his name is "moon or nothing" He larps with Cryptotom's wallet and pretends he is a whale when in reality he has a stack less than 2k.

If you joined his "Whale Discord you are a brainlet" He is not a whale

>> No.19294555

Serious question, does anyone think it would be a good idea to buy ESH for cheap to get the airdop?
Do people really think there's been no work done on GHOST? Even if it's just a copy-past of other stuff, it should still have some value right?

>> No.19294572

>>19294555
>Serious question, does anyone think it would be a good idea to buy ESH for cheap to get the airdop?

It's a great idea. Cheap esh right now fill your bags!!!! FUD EVERYWHERE don't listen

>> No.19294578

>>19292920
Yep. That faggot talking about bridge tokens doesn’t get it either. McAfee wants to hype this as a true privacy coin that can’t be tracked.... but the only way to buy and sell it is via bridge tokens on ETH?... where everything is publicly visable? Yeah right, makes sense. Add to that the fact that McAfee dex is not at all Normie friendly.... people unironically thinking normies are going to buy their ghost bags. Jfc

>> No.19294589

>>19294555
No, we plan on sending ESH to 0 right before the airdrop, trapping anybody that is waiting for it. Your ghost airdrop will not make up for what you loose on ESH.

>> No.19294632

>>19293110
Kek. There it is. A privacy coin that move on the ETH network... it’s hilarious the mental gymnastics required to make sense of this. No one is going to use this for privacy.... it was a speculative pump and dump on a meme token and it’s rapidly winding down. If your still holding, you are the greater fool.

>> No.19294906

So far I’ve seen two arguments by the believers as to why this will pump....
>the dark web will buy my bags
It’s not private on McAfee dex and offers nothing new or unique. Dark web isn’t interested.
>normies will buy m bags when McAfee shills it
Normies don’t give a fuck about McAfee, crypto, or buying shitcoins on obscure, hard to use dexes. You were the target, not normies.

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19294991

the airdrop will be there
Ghost will be released
any other words are fud

>> No.19295095

>>19294991
Go all in anon. Pay $0.75 to get a $0.20 token airdrop. Genius.

>> No.19295150

>>19295095
He’s probably new and has never seen how fast the market moves on from a privacy coin pump. This ones going to be an erc20 token till June too. Kek by the time the actual mainnet comes, even the true believers won’t be interested

>> No.19295162

>>19295150
Exactly. This erc20 will be trading under $0.05 in no time.

>> No.19295224

>>19292920
Let's not forget the references to figures that do not exist, fucking lol

>> No.19295368

>>19295224
Hilarious. Literally no effort was put into this shit show.

>> No.19295974

bump since this is such a great thread

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i scrape nitter and send tweets to myself via telegram, because fuck twitter's interface. that way i see fun edits like this one

>> No.19296483

>>19295974
Nice, up to 25 posts no ghostie. Did you buy the top and sell the bottom so now u feel the need to FUD, knowing that you missed your only chance to make it?>>19295150
He has a million followers on Twitter who are strictly interested in crypto

>> No.19296546

>>19290609

holy shit why would you post this clip, it's the biggest fud i've seen yet. you can tell he's just bullhitting, doesn't give a fuck about the coin and is trying to remember the talking points he was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to stamp his name on.

>> No.19296884

>>19296483
I just enjoy watching the ESH meltdown anon. It is fun to kick you guys while you are down and say I told you so.

>> No.19296979

>>19296483
Man, I’m getting tired of responding to all the cope, but do yourself a favor and look at a skycoin chart. McAfee got a damn skycoin tattoo and shilled the fuck out of it nov 2018....see how much his followers cared. Not even a tiny bump on the chart. You are the target anon.... people who follow McAfee and were dumb enough to ride this into the ground

>> No.19297038

>>19296979
Exactly this. McAfee is old irrelevant crackhead that does a gram of heroin a day. Why you would trust him with your money is beyond me.

>> No.19298286

Kek $0.67 on Bitcoin.com

>> No.19299279

>>19298286
update: now $0.44 on Bitcoin.com

>> No.19299336

>>19290784
This fud honestly has me shook. I'm not sure if my iron hands can hold until Monday

>> No.19299375

>>19299279
fuck off with your fud its 0.81$

>> No.19299452

>>19299375
check the ESH/BTC pair retard. $0.446 right now.

>> No.19299480

>>19299452
>ESH/BTC pair
ngmi

>> No.19299482

Fuck this, I'm out. ESH->PNK. I don't give a fuck anymore.

>> No.19299644

>>19299482
pretty much anything is a better buy than ESH

>> No.19299661

So many competeing small-caps currently want to munch on the mcap of ESH.

>> No.19299740

>>19299661
so many trapped traders underwater on their trade. Looking too get out as soon as possible in the next day.

>> No.19299757

>>19299740
they had their time to exit, they didn't

This shows in the discussions. No more moonboi'isms - just either FUD or hard, detailed discussions

>> No.19300194

>>19299757
All 8d chess anon.

>> No.19300212

>>19299740
Any dumbass that trusted the greasy fucking neckbeard named Josh enough to invest in the shitty coin deserves to lose their money. They knew what they were doing and sometimes your pump and dump scheme fails. Big deal. Play with fire and this is what happens.

Seriously, at least do SOME research. In /biz/ you always research and check things out. You don't think in the real world the people who run things are worth discriminating against? You always check. I wouldn't trust this neckbeard with a dollar. He dumped all his shit and he's gonna buy a bunch of anime figurines with it. Enjoy getting scammed.

>> No.19300291

>>19294499
Lmao why does Discord ruin everything?

>> No.19300363

>>19300212
I will enjoy watching ESH dump to under $0.05

>> No.19300426

>>19300363
Imagine caring about esh. We bought for ghost

>> No.19300845

>>19300426
smart. Buy ESH at $1+ to get GHOST that will be worth $0.20

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19300881

>>19290576
Nothing new, they stole Buccaneer's idea and tried to copy it. They're all thiefs.

>> No.19301100

>>19300881
How did they steal their idea?

>> No.19302032

>>19301100
The tranny Josh, he was in the Buccaneer discord. When Buccaneer went silent he saw it as an opportunity, no one expected it to come back from the dead.

>> No.19302144

>>19302032
It didn't come back. Only the bagholder shills.

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>>19299661
>>19299740

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>>19290607

>> No.19303365

>>19290576
Josh is about to dump everything he has wtf