/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19286700
I support OP's notion. Work, you lazy plebs. There is no other way.

>>19286706
This. If you’re not making money for shekelberg every waking minute of your life you deserve to go homeless and hungry

We're switching to an economy that can have robots for labor and ubi for normies. Crypto will moon though.
Work smart not hard faggots

>>19286700
i want nothing more in life than have my shitcoins moon so i can live the life of a NEET for the rest of my days

>>19286777
trips of truth

why work when you get $600 in unemployment every week faggot op?

>>19286743
You joke, but we need to put in effort if we're to ensure based Mr Trump staying in office. What's more important, your virile health or making America great...?

>>19286700
I make 2x my regular pay now by doing nothing thanks to the 600/week bonus
I save 1hr commute per day and 40 hr working a week
I save gas money and the hassle of dealing with idiots at work
Instead I walk around my white town smoking blunts and playing golf and shitposting

I wonder if we'll see the temporary death of currency

>>19286700
This man is a fool, he trades his time for money.
Im a neet with an army of crypto trading bots, I relax all day and enjoy life.
Working hard is a boomer philosophy inspired by serfdom.

every time you work for fiat currency you are supporting a tyrannical government that wages illegal wars and kills millions of innocent people. do not work

>>19287086
i dont. in krautland we dont get anything from the state if we have more than 3000€ to our name. its not fair. i have to work or use up my own money

>>19287184
How do I trading?

>>19286700
u mad at my stim boomer?

>>19287318
Go spend all your euros on physical gold and silver, so you can go get neet bux. Do your part to accelerate the collapse.

>>19287086
im this guy
>>19287318
I feel you krautbro. I need to work also because I wasn't furloughed, but my gf makes almost as much as me on unemployment lol wtf

>>19288188
Thank you 88man and thank you for your service wagies need to get with the program and stop being traitors and feeding the the system

>>19287184
>Im a neet with an army of crypto trading bots, I relax all day and enjoy life.
>Working hard is a boomer philosophy inspired by serfdom.
Based Bot Baron

>>19286700
Whats the point of wage slaving if government robs you of your purchasing power through inflation and taxes

>be me
>work at small business for 5 years
>no vacations
>no days off
>over 40 hours a week, but no OT
>know business inside and out, more so than the trust fund baby owners who bought it a couple years before hiring me
>Kung Flu hits
>Get unemployment
>Strike deal to work only 10hrs/week
>now getting 4.2k a month working remote
>owners have fantastic unemployment insurance and don't give a shit

I'm a NEET so it's all going into PRU, ET, CCL, MTDR and LINK.

Goal is to milk another 8k before I have to go back. Ez pz

>>19286700
This twitter faggot is too busy slaving away so he can afford his metro sexual wardrobe and hair care supplies that he doesn't have time to appreciate the great things in life like nature. Always these workaholic puppets looking down on the enlightened. I would beat the living fuck out of this faggot and break his limbs so the hypocritical fuck can't ever work another day in his pathetic wage life. Get back to work wagies while I watch the grass blow in the gentle summer breeze, you don't deserve enlightenment.

>>19288539
I would respect workoholics if we lived in a zero tax environment. No point in busting your balls to give half your money to the state

>>19286700
Do not work.
Stagnate at all costs.

>>19288425
>>no vacations
>>no days off
>>for 5 years
>>gets 10k coronabux

that sounds miserable. imagine going 5 years without a vacation or personal days and then being happy you're getting 10k. why would you work 5 years without a vacation you slave

>Freedom means slaving away for people inherited a company and never worked a day in their lives
>Repeat after me: this is good, you are free, just work and consume until you die

>>19289364
Managing companies is hard work you fat lazy fuck

Lol nice try faggots

God king Trump will make sure im taken care of while i relax.
Ill be getting unemployment for as long as possible

>>19287086
I get $1100 in UI every week

Na. If everyone wants socialism fuck em I’ll collect neet bux and play vidya all day.

The regular posts on this board are becoming indistinguishable from transsexual leftypol posts.

They've managed to flip another board... Disgusting.

>>19288425
>take stempill
>get hired in the (insert nation here) academy of sciences
>pay is fucking abysmal
>8 hour work day(no one works 8 hours)
>go there a full month 2-3 days out of the week
>do all your experiments
>sit on your ass for the rest of the year and collect government money because you did all your work in a single month
>freelance programming and watching crypto is your side hustle(tax fucking free)
STEMfags are fucking neets through and through.

>>19286700
Without work, no Jews prosper.

>>19286700
>>19286706
Enjoy the 36 hrs of weekend left wagies

>>19286700

>>19286700
you were brought up to be a bitch. I wasn't.

>>19288539
>I would beat the living fuck out of this faggot and break his limbs so the hypocritical fuck can't ever work another day in his pathetic wage life
The workoholic is the perfect wagie. You need to fill your business with them exclusively. Not only will they work OT without extra pay, but they will be proud of it too. 16 hour workdays fren. You'll roll in dough while relaxing.

>>19289461
Just get a job loser and you can buy things

>>19289388
Not when it has already been established for 50 years and basically runs itself. I work for an amazing old Korean war vet and his shit head fat fucking boomer kids.

>>19289587
Start your own company then you lazy fuck but no you dont have the work ethic of a boomer so you just leach off the boomers while being jealous

>>19289610
>boomers could work an entry-level job out of high school and afford rent/house
>millennials now have to start a business if they want to make it

where did we go so wrong?

>>19289668
You spend 90% of your income on pedocartoons, weed and avocado toast and blame old women because you are to dumb to buy a house

Damn this whole "hustle culture" stuff is so gay. You don't have to be a neet to hate these people.

i would make more on unemployment but have been doing uber eats to get out of the house. that shit weighed on me for the few days i did it.

>>19289704
cringe

>>19287306
Based. I'm doing my part in the revolution.

>>19289610
>work ethic of a boomer
Would that be operating a business at a loss and from refinancing one loan with another?

>>19286700

Imagine that I really like my work and earn 130k a year without bonus as an corporate bond asset manager. Imagine being happy with $600 a week and no responsibility.

>>19289758
I agree, why do yall complain about boomers, just get a job and work hard the $$$$ roll in. Maybe someday you could get a car if you get ou ver your crippling anxiety and learn how to drive

>>19289786
Good for you, your tax dollars are supporting a tyrannical government that wages illegal wars and kills millions of innocent people.

>>19289772
You are jealous of broke old people? C'mon it made more sense when you pretended they all have 7 free mansions

>>19289829
I live in Switzerland so my tax money goes into free education for our children and a free healthcare system.

>>19289778
Whats the g stand for?

>>19289853
>I'm paying for free healthcare

>>19289786
I wish i was making 600 dollars a week

>>19289853
>our children
Swiss dont have kids. Those are ahmeds kids

Thank god all these old fucks will be dead in 10 years, maybe 12 years if they lose 100 pounds.

>>19289668

>wages not keeping up with inflation (by not keeping up I mean stagnant) since the 70s
>services such as University and medical care (at least in the US) increase 1000+%
>companies no longer have incentive to keep employees full time (costs far less to employ illegals and part timers)
>unions (the only negotiators for most workers) consistently getting squashed
>NIMBYs and zoning laws not allowing the construction of new housing to keep up with demand, and boomers/property management companies treating housing as an investment rather than a necessity
>ubiquity of University has strongly devalued degrees, jobs that required a high school diploma nowadays require a bachelors and vice versa
>living with debt has unfortunately now become the standard

Welcome to the Apocalypse, gentlemen

>>19289919
Boomers life expectancy is higher than millennials, most of whom will die of AIDs, meth, heroin, weed and obesity

>>19286743
I get the whole Shekelberg argument but the reality is that we live in a capitalist society where everyone's going to try and extract their cut along the way.

In a perfect world you'd get to keep 100% of the value you generate, but we don't live in that world, so you only keep a portion of the value you generate. There's some valid reasons for that: when you're employed by someone, you're utilizing their infrastructure, their equipment, their office space, their marketing, their brand/reputation, etc. You can think of the money that Shekelberg is taking from you as a fee for using their system.

Anyway OP is right, it's important to stay economically productive. Even if Shekelberg is going to take 70% of what you earn, you still keep 30%, which is better than staying home and earning 0%

Go apply for a job , get your ass to work, and become a contributor to society, become an earner.

>>19289947
Boomers were better people. Smarter, stronger etc. You get what you deserve in life and millennials dont deserve anything but suffering for their crimes against nature

>>19289853
>my tax money goes into free education
they've got you brainwashed good over there

>>19286700
Why work when we can just stake on ARPA and wait a bit
I have no idea especially when unemployment pays more than normie jobs

>>19289829
>my bleeding heart
Faggot if those wars weren't waged you would be speaking Chinese and eating bats right now. And probably loving it too, fucking cuck.

>>19288425
you sound like a cuck. go start your own business if you know it better than the owners or ask for more money. they're using you, dumbass.

>>19290021
I got a masters degree in quant finance from one of the best universities (ETH Zurich) paying $600 for a semester. Nobody has to go into debt for studying, so yes it is basically free education.

>>19290075
Free education that you pay for for 45 years, heck of a deal. I think I would just go to school until I turn 65 and skip the free part of paying

>>19289180
>>19290053

I should leave and I'm stealth applying for other jobs.

This job is just so fucking comfy bros. I get paid to hang out with my friends all day, live literally one block away, take two hour lunches, etc.

It's a fucking trap to work at a place where you make shit money by biz standards, but quality of life is top notch.

>>19290124
You are a retard if you cant see the benefits of an educated population. This is one of the main reasons why we are doing so well while your third world country is falling apart.

We are not lazy. We are a generation of depressed fucks that can’t leave their bedroom and expect to make it without leaving bedroom.

>>19290075
his point is that it's an oxymoron to say "tax money PAYING for FREE education"

Obviously the professors, administrative, and maintenance staff need to be fully compensated at universities. As well as the costs to upkeep the grounds and facilities. Your $600/semester does not cover this expense.

You end up paying for it in astronomically high taxes, something like 40-50% in Switzerland.

So you have an education but then you pay for it your entire life in the workforce, essentially giving up half your income to the government until you die.

>>19290176
Are the extra money really worth commute and being worked to the bone day in and day out?

>>19286700
>I am little sheepie. I want get anus fucked by Jew boss 10 hrs a day. My life meaning is to be a sheep with no conscious. I was brought up by the Jew system and told I need to be a sheepie sheep. And yes goy you should do the same

>>19290251
>i'm disabled and will live with mom forever
based

If you want to live a balanced life with a nice girlfriend/wife and have kids + a nice house

Waging is unfortunately a reality

If you're happy being 35 and still watching anime dating Sims and fapping onto your boxers then you can be a NEET

>>19290204
Lmao I pay an effective tax rate of 22.5%. Also we dont have capital gains tax in Switzerland. Nothing to pay on my crypto gains.

>>19290270
>not crazy workaholic means useless
Hey kid. I’m working at my small business everyday. I work with seriousness but I also know that there’s not too much pride in doing this thing to keep life going.
Working is not the end. We haven’t figured out the meaning of life as entire human species why the fuck fill your head with meaningless endless “work”?
This faggot life is pathetic because he turned himself into a no brain machine. His only value to this world is to be used by employers. like a whore

>>19289461
Absulotely true. Boomer generation has lived on the younger generations credit. We pay for them having good lives. In Krautland boomers are a political majority now, so they raise their retirement payments now. It's a big scam.

>>19290410
>I’m working at my small business everyday
what do you do?

>>19286700
Grow the fuck up you fucking Manchild manlet incel retard and accept the truth that people have different fates and lives retard

>>19289884
Gamer

>>19290410
>We haven’t figured out the meaning of life as entire human species
Yes we have. But words are too fucked now that we would have to go over how you define the terms pagan, occult, history, myth

>>19290373
ok great but the personal income tax rate in Switzerland is 40%+ so while you were able to pay a reduced effective rate, the majority of your compatriots are paying through the nose for this "free healthcare and education"

Your country fucking sucks mate.

>>19286700
why? to appease some fucked up roastie in her 30s that had sex with 40 guys simultaneously so we provide betabux for her and she can continue being a whore?

>>19286700
>social shaming - the thread
>it had no effect

>>19290683
please have sex

>>19286700
Work Smart Not hard loser

>>19290665
No, you’re ducking retarded. You will never end up paying more than 25% of your tax as income in Switzerland. It has one of the lowest tax schemes you fucking imbecile

>>19290665
Just because you’re a retwrded americunt:
At the federal level, personal income tax rates are progressive and the maximum income tax rate is 11.5%.
Cantonal and municipal level together can AT MOST get the max rate to 40%, but the effective rate will be much lower, and the majority of cantons and municipal will add maybe 10%. Some add 3%

>>19290828
post your paystub

>>19290863
No, learn to use google. The above is common knowledge everywhere. Just because the US both has an insane tax rate and fucks you with social services, doesn’t mean there aren’t countries that can do both well

>>19290893
I just want to know how much you make

>>19290900
Some thousands over 100k a year. Tech company

>>19290893
Most people in the usa dont pay taxes and many pay a negative 25% rate while you pay for free healthcare and education. You are jealous

>>19290912
ok, whatever you say

>>19286706
>There is no other way.

>>19290916
None of that is true and IRS ducks you unbelievably hard if you don’t pay taxes. I’ve lived in the states for 8 years, go duck yourself

>>19286700
>getting a job in 2020
Learn to automate tasks and allocate resources among the population more fairly. Or dont and I play capitalist games in the market while sitting on my ass from home.

>>19290960
Yeah I'm sure the retard who brags about paying for free education and healthcare understands USA tax laws

>>19286700
Morning, wagie! How was your week? Glad it's all over, huh?

wagie? You there?

Ah. I figured you'd still be sleeping All that hard work really takes a toll on your body and mind. Me, I just got up (at 8 in the morning it‘s really the optimal hour)with Stacy at my bedside. See, wagies like you are too tired Friday night to do anything, much less find a date with Stacy. I, on the other hand, see plenty of Stacys at the bar. No wagies there that night!

Anyway, poor wagie, l have much to do today! While you slaved away flipping burgers or writing reports in your cramped cubicle, l was able to pickup a new hobby cooking! Yesterday I learned all about fine cuisine and today I will apply what I learned by making Stacy breakfast in bed. She'd give me a blowjob, since wagies never think of her in the morning. They're simply too tired

After that, I will kick Stacy out for the time being. as I must improve myself during the day You there, wagie? I thought not. You won't be up until 12, and even then, don't have enough energy until 1 to carry yourself out of bed. What a waste of your precious weekend,

poor wagie?

I plan on continuing my new hobby by visiting the grocery store and buying only name-brand foods Stacy will be quite impressed later!

Anyway, I'll leave you to it, wagie! Have a good morning, or should I say, afternoon.

>>19290995
>derp herp I’ll just insult him because I’m out of arguments xD
Cmon dude, people don’t pay and negative rates? I mean this board talks about IRS and income tax all the fucking time. You’re all terrified of not making your taxes and the money boogeyman
What a loser you are.

>>19286700
Kek I made 360k this year trading options and crypto. I make 34k waging 40 hours a week for shekelstein, and after taxes I only keep 22k. My boss shall be receiving my resignation letter very soon

>>19286700
this society of today can suck my dick

>>19291028
Yeah I'm sure the retard who brags about paying for free education and healthcare understands USA tax laws

>>19291106
Fuck yea, I got him.

>>19291028
Enjoy paying 40% in taxes for free education cuck

>>19291106

>>19286700
No one cares about me or my well being. Why should I care about them/their wellbeing? Tell me, smart guy. If I have enough money or better yet, land and resources to not starve to death, I couldn't care less about anyone. This planet can crash into the sun and burn to a crisp for all I care

>>19291192
>most people don’t pay taxes
>many people pay 25% negative
>these people have to be under 40k a year for that
>most people in the US have at most 40k a year
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
yea I wouldn’t want to worry about free education when I don’t know where my next meal will come from LOOOOOOL

>>19291307
Look the retard who brags about paying for free education doesn't understand averages

>>19291209
NOO YOU CANT JUS OPT OUT OF SOCIETY AND THE BIG MACHINE YOU GOTTA FALL FOR THE PICKET FENCE JEW AND HAVE A BUNCH OF BELONGINGS THAT SHAPE YOUR IDENTITY BECAUSE YOURE CULTURAL ROOTS HAVE DISINTEGRATED DUE TO JEWS RELENTLESSY PROMOTING RACE MIXING AND DEGENERACY.

I would make more money unemployed than working. But I work from home so the work goes on. The only reason why I continue is for my resume and the experience in finance

>thinking you can get out of paying taxes
You brainlets. Taxes get automatically deducted from your raw salary. Up to 30%. 30 fucking % of my salary goes for shit I neither want nor need on a standard contract. IT'S NOT EVEN A FUCKING CHOICE. If I'm on a citizen contract I have to file for 10% of that manually.

>>19286700
What is it that the modern world provide of value or interest to a non braindead normie nigger that is basically an NPC on the quest to seek fun? I'm a Tibetan monk and all your luxury vanity garbage is pointless. The internet was a mistake, letting children onto the internet was a mistake and letting children grow up on the internet was a mistake.
P.S.
I'm only using the internet because it exists.

>>19290019
>crimes against nature
name them