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Further slamming the continuation of full lockdowns, Kolanovic then writes that "the fact that re-opening did not change the course of pandemic is consistent with mentioned studies showing that initiation of full lockdowns did not alter the course of the pandemic either. These virus dynamics are perhaps driven by the elimination of the most effective spreaders, impact on the most vulnerable populations such as in nursing homes, common sense measures unrelated to full lockdowns (such as washing hands, etc.)and weather patterns in the northern hemisphere, etc."

To be sure, the lockdowns remained in place "while our knowledge of the virus and lack of effectiveness of total lockdowns evolved." However, at the same time, "millions of livelihoods were being destroyed by these lockdowns. Unlike rigorous testing of potential new drugs, lockdowns were administered with little consideration that they might not only cause economic devastation but potentially more deaths than COVID-19 itself."

>>19234683
>lockdowns don't work when everyone still has to go to the grocery store

no one could have predicted this

>OMG THE SECOND WAVE IS COMING, LETS LOCKDOWN AND ORDER UBER FROM A SHITSKIN

Link?

>>19234751
1k eoy

>>19234724

then why lockdown at all???????

>>19234815
Government wants to appear like they are doing something or that they can handle the situation to keep people with a peace of mind.


Pro tip: they can’t

>>19234815
Because it stopped the spread. The only people you're going to convince otherwise are utter retards and schizos

>>19234748
Lmao

If the lockdowns turns out to have been a waste of time due a second wave, i will only blame all the fucking retards who found it too hard to just keep their fucking distance and use the bottle of sterilizers that is placed everywhere. Even at the peak panic, all the pensioneers were sitting bundled together in cafes and bingo meetings

>>19234871
Figure 2 below show virus spread rates before and after lockdown for different countries around the world, and Figure 1 shows the spread for US states that have re-opened. In particular, regression shows that infection rates declined, not increased,
>declined
>declined
>declined
>AFTER REOPENING

but they told me second wave if open now????? should be opposite?????

>>19234815
90% of the population is dumb as fuck and they just wanna see big daddy government "do" something because they're not capable of analyzing the situation themselves.

The government is afraid of losing votes and therefore they "do" something about it to pander to the sheep. Then they use fear to justify what they did.

>LET ME WORK!!!
>YOU CAN'T JUST LOCKDOWN FOREVER!!
>CAN WE JUST GET SOME NORMALCY BACK IN OUR LIVES FOR GOD SAKES!!!!!!!
>MY POOR MASSAH NEEDS A NEW YACHT!!

>>19234906
You can’t tell Americans what to do, and you can’t tell boomer westerners why to do.

Hell, here’s a secret:
>You can’t tell anyone given a modicum of free expression what to do without a stick

You live in a society with too many carrots and not enough sticks.

>>19234906
Are you retarded? The “first wave” was literally just a bad cold that went around...

>>19234683

This wall fall on death ears.
COVID is funny because while normies and reddit teir people eat it up by virtue of being normies, 4chan also eat it up becase they are mostly NEETS or shut in types, and a covid lockdown socety that increases their gibs, or at leasts lets them stay at home and be vegetables is actually an ideal state for them. they are generally introverted loners, struggle socially, and cant get laid even at the best of times, so having the world conform to their struggles makes them happier.

It's been really interesting watching how 4chan agree with the media jew the moment it appeals to them.

>>19235165
Yea how the fuck did so many anons fall for this? There's no way. People on this website are socially retarded and therefore immune to propaganda. It's always been a strong point here.

>>19234693
>elimination of the most effective spreaders
BASED BoomerRemover

>>19234815
exactly, now you're starting to ask the real questions

>>19235540
fear makes people do funny things.

>>19235689
i already knew this was all bullshit months ago. i looked only at the numbers and never watched any media coverage of it.

>lockdown ended at when the infection rate was going down

good :)

this has literally been the biggest event in our generation's history, we are going to fucking french revolution the boomers in 10 years. be glad expecially if you are in your 20s and have cashed in on the recent market horseshit

>>19234950
Democracy was a mistake

>>19235015
There are literally no carrots for men, feminism has ruined the relationship between the genders

>>19234942
No, I don't care what your bullshit figures show. You might as well show me climate change charts. It's simple logic that you stop the spread of a contagious disease by keeping people apart. You can't argue with that unless you are flat out mentally ill.

>>19234942
Incubation is 2 weeks. Not enough data yet

>>19236607
No you fucking moron. This clearly shows that it's an anticontageous disease that spreads by people being apart.

Unless you are like 70+ years old with a bunch of pre-existing health conditions the virus is a meme, people IRL are acting like this shit is the bubonic plague or some shit

>>19234683
i hope we stay locked down. i enjoy working from home, i enjoy the lack of normgroids on the highways, i enjoy the 6' normgroid buffer in public. the only thing i don't like is the empty shelves at the grocery store or the (((inflation))) i'm beginning to see on food. other than that, it's great.

>>19236607
>No, I don't care what your bullshit figures show.
strong cognitive dissonance. social distancing isn't the same as lockdown orders. this entire fiasco could have been handled the way sweden did it. you actually stop spread by allowing for herd immunity.


>>19236645
sweden has been essentially BAU since this shitshow

>>19236571
Sucks nobody ever thought to make a republic where only white, land-owning men over the age of 21 could vote, with severely limited central government, state appointed senators, and a constitutional clause limiting currency to gold and silver.

>>19236571
if it makes you feel any better, there isn't any democracy in the states to begin with. just puppets controlled by puppets controlled by puppets.

>>19236881
quality pic. upvoted.

>>19234724
It worked in NZ. Virus is gone

>>19234906
The virus is never going away you dumb faggot, and the point of lockdowns was to spread out the deaths over a long period of time not to save lives
A second wave is inevitable whether you lock down or not

>>19234683
Fails to address seasonality. Moreover the whole reason for the lockdown was to flatten the curve, so really he's just saying it was effective and being a effete faggot.

>>19237580
Originally, it was to flatten the curve after which they moved the goalposts and continue to do so. Now it's not about saving lives, it's about scoring political points, amassing political power, redistributing wealth, and exerting additional controls over the populace and stripping them of essential liberties.

All in exchange for "protecting" us from something that kills less than .005% of healthy people.

I am glad my forefathers died for our "freedom"

>>19237700
I want to argue against you, but yeah. It's not about protecting anymore. Flattening was fine, sure, but even then it was of questionable value to do so compared to the magnitude of the grievous harm done.

Having said that I believe the motive tends more towards obfuscation. The economy was on the brink, and the market alongside it. Values were massively inflated, beyond reason. The correction we've seen thus far is still questionably priced, which explains why so many big players are openly bearish - but perhaps it's a means to manipulated general market sentiment. It excuses the massive plays the fed is making, it excuses real-economy damage done by unfathomable debt burdens and defaults. Not much to be done in any case.

>>19237700
This is all probably just another huge wealth transfer and controlled demolition of the economy. This was probably discussed at Bilderberg 2018 or 2019.