/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19210643
Why not both

>>19210643
best of the best

interview process would have most people here crying

what is the name of said whore

>>19210643
>FANG drone here
>spammed interview prep questions for 6 months
>easy track for life now, couldn't be happier
>300k and stupid benefits for 0 effort work

>>19210643
I would push deep into his anus, If you catch my drift

>>19210643

>>19210643
The ones that make the code are the best
The ones that are diversity hires are overpaid corporate drones

It's very easy to tell who belongs to which group

>>19210643
software engineers get paid a lot but the workload can be pretty extreme

it's the product managers and data scientists and UX researchers who get to earn $250k/yr and work 35 hours a week.

>>19210966
coffee good

>>19210643
Imagine the smell.

>>19210643
>A classmate of mine couldn't code her way out of a paperbag.
>Literally had to ask for my help in coding a minesweeper clone
>Managed to graduate despite submitting non-compiling code full of errors and warnings all the time

>Ended up working at Facebook, junior developer starting at almost $90k (this was back in 2015).
>Last I heard, she's a senior dev now with almost twice the salary

No wonder Facebook is broken beyond belief.
- My account still has a ghost notification I cannot get rid of.
- Things like "suggested appointments" in messenger (dumb "feature" btw) are totally broken and even make the message disappear in basic web view (used by wap phones)
- Lack of basic functionality like:
- turning off calls, makes having messenger annoying, people can randomly call you, if I only didn't need it for work I'd uninstall it
- or searching messages. The feature used to exist (I used to use it to search for invoice numbers my page sent to customers), but one day it just stopped working... now the messenger search only works properly for names. Retards at the helm.

...among other things.
With people like her getting in, I'm surprised these buggy sites/apps aren't completely breaking at all.

>>19211349
Have seen this first hand at another FAANG

>>19211412
Say the company name you faggot

>>19210643
FANGS are only for Autistics

>>19210912
What does a typical day at work look like for you

>>19211549
>email check with coffee
>say hi to guy next to me
>morning sync up
>maybe some code, maybe screw around till lunch
>real work usually after lunch a bit
>play around
>go home 16:59

>>19210643
I work at FAGMAN and if this is the best of the best then I don't know what to say

>>19211605
Interesting. I work in a completely different type of field (dentist) and I think what you're describing is the most fascinating thing like yeah sometimes I have slow days at work and I feel like my job is cushy but I get no benefits and I only get paid for actually completing procedures so sitting around is counterproductive. Makes me think I should have gone a different direction but honestly I don't think I would have been able to get into a FAANG position

>>19210643
Imagine bending this fat bitch over on the beach and filling her roast beef pussy with your baby batter

>>19211630
just say you work at Microsoft.

>>19211730
I just like using the FAGMAN acronym okay

>>19211630
>if this is the best of the best then I don't know what to say
elaborate

>>19211751
He means they are not very good, I also work at one of those companies and anyone who can prep for 3 months to pass the interviews gets in.

Don't get me wrong, there are amazing people here, but also absolute brainless drones who don't do anything, but the company is so massive that people don't notice

>>19211751
There are a bunch of small things but the worst thing I've seen happen is for someone to disable the testing step in the build pipeline to be able to merge their changes into our main code base, and then re-enabling it afterwards.

This basically broke builds for everyone else, but the worst part is that this code that didn't pass the tests went out to production ;)

>>19211775
>absolute brainless drones who don't do anything
I'd love to be one of those while collecting a huge paycheck.

>>19210907
I could give you sauce but she's ugly in the face and flat chested, would ruin your wank sesh.

>>19210643
built for bbc, my god

>>19211775
What languages do you need proficiency in to get hired?

Hardly. Google has nothing but poojets and woke numales. Everything they try fails.

Apple engineering has become a joke since the year before Jobs died.

Lex Luther runs a tight ship and FB doesn't do anything special.

>>19212486
Any language is fine for the interviews, but most common is Python/C++/Java. Certain jobs might have certain requirements but every FAANG interview I've done they don't care about the language. I recommend python if you are just aiming at doing well for interviews

>>19212422
I'll chance it nigger

>>19212422
what if having my wank session ruined is my kink

>>19210643
fucking obese amerifats only that like this kind of girl, i would pass even if she did beg for it

>>19212469
I’d love to see her sit on a 8-9.125” bbc taking 1.5 inches at a time until balls deep. Love it

>>19212469
>>19212614
Keep saying shit like that Shekelsteinbergblatt, it will only make it worse for you later.

>>19212514
Thanks fren. How do you get the interview to begin with?
>>19212576
Nigga you gay

>>19211349
all these tech companies that bloated themselves up on diversity hires are going to get their market cap eaten up by Urbit this decade

>>19212486
I just went with Java because all prep pages have the answers in Java.

Once went to an interview with a fancy language and failed because got into discussion with interviewer because he didn't know advanced language constructs. Came off as super cocky because I was correcting him.

>>19212709
>How do you get the interview to begin with?
This is the tricky part. If you don't have a degree you need to have some kind of personal projects to show off, or at least a few years of experience at some random software shop. Reach out to your network and see if you have anyone that can refer you as well - that's a good way to shortlist the interview track.

>>19212751
Apple products are so easy to use that my retarded coworkers who can't even use Microsoft Excel properly all have iPhones. The other day a woman came up to me because she needed my help copying and pasting a link that she wanted to send to someone. They don't even know what the fuck Ethereum is, and they definitely wouldn't be able to figure out how to use it to secure their namespace on a distributed meme network. Urbit is going to have a very difficult time making themselves accessible to normalfags. Maybe it is like the internet in that regard, really difficult to use at first but gradually becoming more ubiquitous. I do own a few stars as suicide insurance but it's a longshot.

>>19210701
>multi-tier interviews make hillbillies in my podunk town cry
And people wonder why flyover states are a joke

>>19212822
>failing the interview because you schooled the interviewer
Based
>>19212855
I have no relevant degree and I'm just getting into programming so I think I need to get good and get a few years of professional experience under my belt. Hopefully will get there some day fren tha is for the advice.

>>19213526
Gee i wonder if the "just started" fren poster will make it

>>19213613
I'll let you know in a year

>>19211349
>junior developer starting at almost $90k
yeah this is bullshit
new grads at Facebook start at IC3 MINUMUM

I was making ~$160k a year as an IC3 swe at facebook, actually made over $200k my first year since I got a big sign on bonus

why even bother making up a story

>>19211349
>No wonder Facebook is broken beyond belief.
oh none of this has anything to do with incompotent devs at Facebook.

We are all fairly good at our jobs, but the performance summary cycles forces us to act like complete retards who only think 6 months ahead, write spaghetti code, fake "impact", write shitty tests or no tests at all, and move on the the next shiny thing as soon as its available

blame the engineering directors or whoever else is in charge of PSC season

t. engineer who has "exceeded expectations" for 2 halves in a row

>>19214115
because you can't learn to fucking read and this was in 2015, you knob.

>>19210643

Sauce me up

>>19212751
serious question, how can I make money from urbit?

>>19210643
Only a BBC can satisfy this woman.

>>19210643
Yeah. I’m pretty damn good. I got poached from the semiconductor industry and even there I was feeling bored.

>>19214266
the minimum pay for IC3 in 2015 was NOT $90k, I literally have access to internal spreadsheets with employee compensation data going back several years

shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about

>>19214344
k, facebook webdev fag. facebook != industry standard in 2015, ya fuckin' noob. BTFO back to your little flyover state and get out of California you carpet bagger. your time is up.

>>19214288
If you're autistic enough to learn hoon you can do bug bounties, get hired by Tlon or another company involved with Urbit. If you just want to speculate then buy a star and forget about it for 5 years.

>>19211476
Amazon

>>19214362
>facebook webdev fag. facebook != industry standard in 2015
are you braindead? That anon SPECIFICALLY said she started working at Facebook in 2015

this is why you will never pass a technical interview at FAANG, because your reasoning skills never developed beyond 2nd grade

>>19214401
you think I read this entire thread, faggot? go back, btw, le reddit spacing tranny. keep coping though. I got out of engineering because I had to deal with people who think they're smart like (You) all day who can't build anything worthwhile and don't have a creative bone in their body. engineering is over. but keep seething.

>>19214486
ahaha this is peak COPE. You got laid of because you're a dumbfuk who couldn't handle the industry, I hope pretending to be a retard on the internet is fulfilling the void!

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>>19211093
>coffee good
Coffee = cancer (acrylamide)

don't drink it. Just drink tea

>>19214546
Unfathomably based

Is she Wife/Mommy material ?

>>19211825
do you not have a code review process? who approved the PR to disable tests? fucking lel

>>19214245
do you know anything about the Seattle office? thinking about trying to get a job as a FE dev for FB in Seattle.

>>19214995
Legacy build pipelines that are not in source control was the problem for that project. It was possible to edit the pipeline without approval.

We have code reviews, and you can't merge builds without them being successful. But in this case it didn't even matter.

>>19215016
fuck source control, fuck code reviews , fuck daily standups , fuck scrum, agile and whatever the fuck monkeys faang coders , its all bullshit

>>19214288
>>19212932
>>19212751
have you guys seen this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6DySv730Hw

>>19215047
meant to tag you too >>19214369

>>19215016
This exactly.

>>19215043
I also agree with this.

t. software engineer

>>19212932
tlon right now actively does not want normies, but long run that is how they view success. they're going to self-host and the experience will be just clicking a button and giving your CC. they will handle purchasing the planet for you, they will host the server, etc. people will just see Landscape, or whatever it's like in the future. no hoon or nock shit. no notion of arvo. that will all be hidden away.

>>19215016
i'm laughing at this. that sounds terrible.

>oh fuck my code is shit and won't build
>let me just ssh into the ole build server
>echo true > ./bin/test
>"my PR is ready for review guys"
>clicks merge
>ehhehhehehehe

>>19211734
>FAGMAN
And you are an overpaid corporate drone.

>>19214115
>why even bother making up a story
Not making it up though.
She migrated to the USA via petition from the Philippines.

And I distinctly recall she said her salary was above 380k PHP (converted, it's around 7500 USD monthly).

Maybe her citizenship had a factor in it (she's not an H1B drone, but she's just petitioned, not a natural born US citizen).

>>19211349
>>19214115
>>19215249
Phone posted that so my ID changed

>>19215047
Okay this is pretty cool
>>19215087
I guess I feel like the entire thing will be pointless if people need help with key management and hosting, how is that any different from giving FAANG all your information?

>>19215014
>do you know anything about the Seattle office
yeah i work there

I knew a fellow transfer student to a state school for EE who got absolutely carried in every class. Barely knew basic EE shit at the time of graduation, absolutely worthless in labs. A few months after graduation a couple of buddies and me find out that he got a job at Apple as a HW developer.

>our faces when

>>19210643
The best of the best go into quant trading.

>>19215618
would you recommend? i got real close to getting an offer ~2 years ago, but i screwed up a few things. i want to do front end stuff - really excited about recoil and just how FB does front end in general. i'm planning to wait about a year because i'm making a gross amount of money right now from my company stock

>>19215643
Its fine I guess, the food is good I just wish the bbq station was up more longer

I won't say which building I work in though, there are multiple fb offices in Seattle now and I think a lot of new people are going to arbor blocks and stadium

>>19210643

I work as a tech lead for a boutique consultancy, which in essence means I am both a project manager and a senior developer. I make 100k CAD and work remotely but I put in 40 hours on a good week and around 60 during crunch. I also never stop thinking about work.

>>19215621
>a couple of buddies and me
Well I can see how you didn't get job at least.

>>19215428
I think for the average normie, key management will be sort of like using coinbase. So, either the average person chooses to let Tlon hold their root key and never takes possession of it, or they have it printed out in a safe deposit box somewhere. And that's fine. If the project is successful, they should never need to re-key.

As for hosting, I emphatically disagree that letting Tlon host for you is no different than the current situation. For that to be the case, it would be equivalent to AWS datamining its running EC2 instances.

>>19214245
i also think it's because nothing is documented and we have "move fast" culture. so whenever i'm doing a task, i learn the bare minimum about the existing codebase needed in order to finish my task. i just slap some shit on the already existing heap of shit and call it a day. there's no motivation to write good code when there's literally no good code to begin with.

>>19210643
Coffee is great

>>19213281
oof, that projection

>>19211658
What he’s describing is literally every decent engineering position. Truth is, you don’t get paid to work, you get paid to think. That cost savings idea I come up with in the shower, that new process I have a revelation about while drinking beer at my pub. That’s what you pay me for. The paperwork and day to day is rudimentary, just because I’m not AT work doesn’t mean my brain shuts off and stops working.

>>19216451
you think about work all day? sorry

>>19210643
anyone ever applied to facebook with racist or sketchy FB message history? did anything come of it?

>>19210912
define 0 effort

>>19217520
you again. your paranoia is getting you

Is it worth it to gamble for fang job? Im at a job rn im not a huge fan of but they wont lay me off.

I got offers to interview at google, amazon, and local retard fake unicorns. My resume decent but not great. I can probably grind out 250 lc problems and pretend to come up stuff on the spot. Tbh i think i can get one of these jobs

Should i tho? I worry about getting laid off in the first round if i join. Fifo

>>19210643
>the best of the best
most professional companies say they hire the best of the best

>overpaid
yes

most people, and developers, that make over $200k/yr just got lucky through the hiring process or their connections (like going to a top school)

>>19217520
I post on 4chan all day on my work computer

>>19217520
one of my college friends is a has sent tons of racist/pol shit to me, he worked at facebook for 2 years w/ no issue