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last time I was on deepweb markets I remember seeing the option for BTC or XMR so there is at least some adoption, I'll load up tor and check it out in a few minutes.

>>19180551
Keep us posted

>>19180402
it is clearly replacing BTC, smart vendors stopped accepting BTC for quite some time now. However nobody really holds onto it. You want to make purchases and profit in your local currencies, so holding onto it gives you way too much risk. So don't expect this to grow much as a speculative asset.

>>19180722
Bitcoin started this way, now it's clearly a speculative asset

>>19180551
>>19180713
alright yeah I just checked icarus market and they have BTC and XMR enabled

>>19180498
based
>>19180402
lets be real monero is the better btc

>>19181107
Based

>>19181107
>>19181164
a lot more items listed under BTC though

>>19181059
It's speculative because it was (((tamed)))

>>19180402
>Is it true that Bitcoins are dropped in the deepweb in favor of this?
Hi FBI.

And yes

Suterusu will rape xmr so hard next year
You kids have no clue

No, BTC is still the dominant crypto of the darkweb markets

>>19181393
less and less

>>19180402
Ghost will blow it out of the water

Mcdex-Ghost is the currency of the underworld.

>>19181366
>please sirs do the needful
No.

>>19181462
I own both, it's only a matter of what coin is going to give me the best value
ESH has a lot of potential, but Monero could surprise me

>>19180402
not really yet.

Alot of people on darknet are fucking RETARDS. a large majority on there still think BTC is some untraceable asset and alot of them are too dumb to figure out how to buy BTC. its getting there though just very slowly.

Darknet is mostly dumb fucking niggers and teens so thats the problem

>>19181520
>>19181465
>>19181462
you guys are so delusional.
>>19181530
this man is correct.

>>19181462
>>19181465
wtf what's up with all those ghostjeets crawling out of their holes and shitting up Monero threads?

Ghost hasn't even dropped yet and it's already king of the undeworld

>>19181568
It’s the latest pump and dump this time with funding from Macafe

>>19181568
theyre all in a discord or something scheming to market their pump n dump over /biz/ so newfags can buy their bags n get dumped on. total scam.

>>19180551
It was adopted like 3 years ago boomer

>>19181176
Probably because the dark net ha seven compromised for drug buying since 2016. They want you using bitcoin now that they haven’t sent hundreds of agents to courses on how to investigate the blockchain and create better traps. Before there were maybe a few guys doing CP and weapons details now they know how to get the drug buyers and the drug runners.
T. Used to move boats of Xan in Hs from 13-15

>>19181568
Monero and ghost can exist at the same time

>>19182753
That isn't a justification for shitting up the board.

>>19182726
Wolf?

>>19182753
True. Just like Gold and Poo can exist at the same time.

>>19180402
i was heavily into xmr 3 years ago. all the community every talked about was how it was destined to surpass btc because of true anonimity bla bla bla. 1000 days and 100 other coints mooning later its trading at +20% with respect to when i got out. the coin is a meme

>>19183707
lmao you listened to 2017 bubble moon boys and get discouraged when their lies didnt turn out right away for you. retard, cant wait to scam you next bubble too

>>19184028
idk i followed it from 6 to 40 so i'm fine. missed out on the december/january craziness but thats because im a weak handed faggot.

>>19180402
no idea, but from a autistic retard perspective, they were a fun coin to mine for a while.

it's a good coin.
i liked its easy to use wallets
and that anyone could mine it.

very charming crypto.
it's solid.

>>19180551
I simply don't trust any vendor who won't accept it

>>19182726
god i'd love to have a source of xan

Buy PIVX sirs

>>19181176
Those are the exchange rates brainlet

>>19184947
Pivx is dead

They'll be using $PART soon:

Same privacy as monero + first fully built private, decentralized marketplace ontop of it. It is literally the next silk road and there is ZERO competition

it's also fully fairly mined. lol

>>19186032
no, they won't. They'll just keep using BTC like morons. Nice shill though.

>>19181530
>install TAILS
>run TOR through a public wifi
>PGP encrypted message
>privacy coin crypto payment tumbled 10x
>get busted when the mail man accidentally delivers your package of weed to the wrong address who opens it and calls the police

>>19186091
the evidence would literally be illegal as someone else opened your package, you brainlet

>>19180402
google whitehouse market and look at how many users have joined since the beginning of the year.

>>19186124
no it's not you retarded nigger. fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine doesn't apply for serendipitous discoveries like that. people have been sent to prison in the USA many times exactly like i have described. in fact, it's the leading way people are busted.

>>19186055
they'll be using BTC with $500 fees next bull run and no privacy or a decentralized marketplaces?

are you fucking retarded?

>>19186032
>optional privacy
kek. into the trash it goes.

>>19186184
name me another decentralized private marketplace

doesn't matter if PART isn't perfect. it is literally the only secure place for dealers to sell drugs

It's been seeping from the darkweb into the mainstream.
BULLISH

video related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65DQkBlSGLA

>>19181107
How safe are these dark web markets even??

Every XMR thread is filled with anons shilling other privacy coins. This just proves XMR is the best

>>19186354
White house market
PGP: all messages are encrypted
TOR: all connections are obfuscated
XMR: all tx's are anonymous

the privacy technology stack has improved a lot since the silk road.

>>19186250
I have no problem with the development of decentralized markets.
But you're shilling a coin that is worse than Monero and making the claim that it has the "same privacy as Monero". It's erroneous and disqualifies your opinion desu. If you want to shill you can go right ahead but you also have to know what you are talking about.

Why would you use BTC in the darkies, XMR is much more quicker and you don't have to worry about tumbling bullshit, I've done plenty of deposits from dn to binance with XMR and they don't ask shit instead with BTC they always go monkeys about "what's the origin of this transac"

>>19186170
No but they are.

>>19186687
because theyre dumb niggers, sand niggers, and teens

>>19181551
Buyers don't get busted. Police are capitalist too

XMR isn't perfect and honestly I see something replacing it. But don't say this infront of any member of the XMR cult

>>19187113
Check out Tari it will be merge mined with monero : https://twitter.com/tari
It's fluffy ponys project, (member of monero core).
It will be the next big thing AND will grow the monero ecosystem.
You will be able to swap XMR and XTR using atomic swaps. That means no exchanges or middle men.

Yeah, so I agree something newer will come along, but it will complement monero not replace it.

Tari has:
1. digital assets
2. scaling (mimmble wimmble)
3. ex-ceo of ticketmaster is helping with the project, planning to use it for tickets as digital assets.

>>19186667
it isn't worse than monero. when thousands of drug dealers are using private transactions it won't matter that it is half private

it uses the same privacy tech as it

>>19186806
nobody will be using btc to do anything but hold during the next bull run

you're a nigger if you think normal people will pay $100 in fees for transactions

>>19187764
look at zcash.
It's available on many exchanges and you can use it on open bazaar.
BUT IT HAS OPTIONAL PRIVACY
It's much harder to implement privacy on a currency that has optional privacy.
Zcash has 0 exchanges that use private t-addresses.
Openbazaar also doesn't support private t-addresses.
Option privacy doesn't work PERIOD

>>19186164

Just say it's not your package.

>>19187876
it doesn't matter that exchanges dont use t-addresses when most of the people using your coins are using the private feature to buy things on the marketplace

the marketplace BUILT uses private tx's. If you're a drug dealer you will use it.

>>19180402
XMR and BTC share the dark net market space, most markets let the vendor chose whether they accept one or both.
Adoption of XMR on DNMs has been increasing over the past 12-24 months.

Will it 2x in 6 months, who knows... largely depends on what BTC does, but doesn't hurt that there is real world use-case and adoption.

Biggest risk for XMR is probably exchange de-listing because of government legislation/regulators if they start to hype AML laws for privacycoins.

>>19180402
hard to know people actually use them immediately so the price usually stays the same but in big bull cycle a lot of top coins get a lot of money injected into their market cap

>>19187791
okay retard faggot loser

>>19188525
Well if they build a platform that is legit and people use it a lot, then that's a better situation than morons moving Bitcoin from coinbase wallets into their marketplace wallets. But the thing is that the bar really is that low, and that privacy by default is much easier for the lowest common denominator if they are forced into moving into a privacy option. That Particl marketplace would have be run extremely smoothly to entice people to come over to it and frankly I've never heard it brought up in dark net market discussion.
The feds like Bitcoin, so most of the low hanging fruit will continue just sending Bitcoin into these markets without having a care. And most of them probably are going to be fine. But overtime you will have more and more people forced into privacy options, and the option with the largest userbase is Monero. So it would make more sense to have a decentralized exchange using Monero than Part, because Part has no history of privacy tech innovations (correct me if I'm wrong) and the people who seek privacy will want to seek a coin that has shown a history of that.

>>19188525

>>19180402
20x pic related desu

Monero is on the verge of overtaking btc as the most used currency on the dark web. Can you imagine what will happen when people realise to that?

>people don't buy drugs with btc anymore?
>what is this monero?

>>19190209
yep. we are in the early stages where the push back is because it is so powerful. As the usecase grows, so will its hype.