/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19026668
>agriculture
>”get rich quick“

>>19026668
do elaborate

based

That big short geeky character invests in agriculture and water now.

https://youtu.be/_pDTiFkXgEE

>>19026668
>>19026839
fucking based. my 12 year plan to become a farmer will come to fruition once I make it with shitcoins. it really is the next big thing, especially since we just entered the 30 year grand solar minimum (yeah that's why (((they))) started running more exercises with the flu). bullish on anything that is edible

>>19026668
Are you a gigafarm with 10000+ productive acres? No? Then have fun not even breaking even on an average production year.

t. ag stat

>>19026768
well last week I mowed this old 1/2 acre goat pen to garden in, and I cut up a huge tree that fell down in it. today i harrowed up the first section. tomorrow i will be moving a large piece of metal in the next section of this goat pen and then i will harrow that.
The goat pen is an ideal location because
* it was fertilized by goats
* there are no goats here anymore
* there is a gate and fence that will keep out deer

I will be growing a variety of vegetables and herbs to eat and give as gifts to my friends and family. I already have an abundance of fruit trees and vines including
* pears
* grapefruit
* figs
* muscadines
* loquat
and of course a pecan orchard

>>19026668
Unless you are growing hemp gtfo

>>19026986
That’s actually of based anon. Very thoughtful as well

>>19026986
how did you get this place fren

>>19026986
none of this will get you rich quick. Don't get me wrong, growing your own food is based, but none of what you're doing will ever be profitable, and even the food you grow yourself to eat will cost 2x as much in production inputs than what it costs at the supermarket.

Just letting you know, as a person who looks at farm financials for a living. You will never make money farming unless you run the farm equivalent of Tesla's gigafactory. The economies of scale will eat you alive.

>>19027062
Hey anon, that kind of job sounds interesting, whats it called or what is the task of the position?

>>19027062
jew

>>19027018
>>19027028

ty

This land has been in my family since General Oglethorpe. My grandad was a farmer who planted pecan orchards all across Georgia, this was my grandma's family farm. It is in a remote location in southwest georgia.

pic related is the spot that will be mowed tomorrow

>>19027172
why do you think it will make you rich quick? Because you have pluck and a can-do spirit? What special advantage do you think you have to make your land profitable?

I scrutinize the balance sheets of thousands of farms every year, the picture for anyone who can't gross at least $500k in product annually is absolutely dismal. As in, at least 75% of farms in that category are losing money YOY.

As a hobby or for your own food supply, it's fine. It will just never make you money.

>>19027172
Yeah I have huge respect for you and what you’re trying to do OP. Do you plan to post occasional updates?

>>19026951
>>19027268

listen here poindexter, if you could get your cock out of your hand for one second you might observe that as a third generation farmer i realize this is not a get rich quick scheme and you may also be able to extrapolate that saying so is a joke.

>>19027317
ok sure i would love to, I've been thinking of doing YouTube since there is such a surge of people working the land rn. Supply chains are not good rn and I'm worried I won't be able to get a good job this year so I'm putting my efforts into trying to prevent my family and friends from starving. I've got all the equipment, and the land, and the time, and this is how i can best be productive right now. I'm all in on silver, ESH, and food production.

peanuts and cotton back here

>>19027146
I work for a farm credit union to assess creditworthiness of farms who apply for loans. Yes, I'm basically scum and I work for scum. I wouldn't recommend it if for no other reason than it is so massively depressing. You spend most of every day peering into farmers' crumbling, hopeless, entropy-stricken lives, as portrayed via asset sheets and tax documentation. The story portrayed there is very stark.

If you are a corporatized megafarm grossing millions a year, your margins are wide enough (thanks to economies of scale) that you can consistently profit year over year. Even in disaster years, you are flush enough that you can invest in multi-peril insurance on your acreage and come away in the green or break-even at worst. A lot of these farms aren't even owned by people any more, they really are more like corporations and/or are owned by private equity groups. All the profit gets hoovered up by shareholders. They can also afford to lobby congress to get subsidies passed that disproportionately benefit corporate farms and leave small farms in the dust.

If you are a small heritage/family farm, you are just utterly fucked. There are boom years where you'll turn a profit, but they are the minority. Your economies of scale just suck and prices get pushed down thanks to megafarms (which bought out all your neighbors' farms already) who can and will sell at any price and still make a profit. You're likely not able to afford adequate insurance/risk mitigation so you have to wait for a disaster to happen then apply to disaster relief programs. Which have a fixed pot and pay out based on how many stricken farmers apply. That means the years you need the disaster money are the years you won't get any, because all the farmers are applying so everyone gets scraps.

This goes for cash crop farms, this also goes for little organic/vegetable/farmers market/CSA type farms as well.

>>19027355
Right, because your third-generation farm experience really shone through in your OP. There are legitimately tons of anons who think farming is some untapped wellspring of free money and they can turn their backyard into a honey-and-goat farm and start netting an easy $10k/yr on the side or something. There are multiple threads a week about this kind of shit.

I just want to set people straight on the likely profitability of it all. Which is zero. Backyard farming is great, do it for hobby or homesteading or prepping. But it's not gonna earn anyone here money.

>>19026668
what state.

>>19027832
Georgia

>>19027355
>as a third generation farmer

as a second generation farmer from obviously better stock you are a retard

>>19027581
you're arguing with a retarded hick, they don't understand words like "economies of scale".

Me too OP. Not trying to get rich just growing for the family

>>19027470
these pictures are sickeningly beautiful. what is this feeling

>>19027894
any joggers in your neighborhood?

>>19026986
>* it was fertilized by goats
>* there are no goats here anymore
:(

>>19027968
absolutely none

>>19027950
feels good man. there's still cheap land in BFE.

>>19028026
price per acre?

>>19027268
you sound like a total jew on the most jew board

>>19028057
~$3k

>>19028062
thank you. I'm here for a good time

>>19028092
bit more than I expected. Acreage? How far from the nearest town? I'm looking to cash out soon

>>19027581
Correct. I do it as a healthy hobby my wife and kids can help me with. Thinking of turning a profit is hilarious. You can recoup some cost at a farmers market but that's just part of the fun.

>>19026668
Smart. 19th century style.

>>19026668
More like get debt quick quick scheme. But also based.

>>19028148
I'm on 122, it's about 7 miles to "town", where there is a machinist, tire shop, tractor dealership, walmart, ford dealer, auto parts store, hardware, school, and small regional hospital (they'll send you to the next town over if it's bad). population about 5k. conservative town, half black half white, but the people in general have their shit more together than they would in say Atlanta. There are some 5 acre plots in the $15 to $20k range. there are some websites you can go to that have land listings for rural georgia. There are some plots that are 400 acres + but expect to pay over a million

>>19028250
you made it. congrats

>>19028250
more pictures please. your land is nice.

>>19026668
bro its fucking wild, you know tomatos (like the ones you buy at the grocery store) you can just plant some seeds in the ground, water 'em for 8 weeks (rain will do a decent amount of the work) and bam you got yourself some tomatos. They literally grow out the ground. You can eat 'em, sell 'em fuckin' whatever man. Literal money printer right in the fuckin' ground.

>>19028243
my dad said if he won the lottery he would farm as long as it would last

one thing is that you should expect that the cops won't come to help you until whatever happened is already through. in this county there are only two cops that patrol an area the size of manhattan at night. I've got lots of family nearby who also all have farms but it still gets spooky at night alone out here.

>>19026986
>* pears
>* grapefruit
>* figs
>* muscadines
>* loquat
Never gonna make_it; grow spices, mushrooms+truffles+drugs and make sure you grow them super condensed and towering each other. Use mirrors to reflect sunlight and automate watering.

The half a meter apart between tomatoes and other things is total bullshit, you'll never make_it unless you can grow up to 30 , 50, 80 tomatoes in one part.
That's what sucks about physical stuff compared to digital stuff, you need to grow it 100x more than how much land you have or how much effort you're putting in.
Geneticists farmers is where it's at. That's how bananas made it big. Imagine strawberries with the same powerful taste as raspberries and actual candy.

Plus most fruit and vegetables only grow 1/4 of the year.

>>19028286
tomato printer go brrrr brrrr

>>19027516
wow anon thank you for all of that. I really appreciate it!