/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18977858
>marry into the upper class
here's the really hard part.
you need to become involved in philanthropic ventures and also art + museum + etc.
i say 'hard part' because to get a seat at the table on those things you need to have lots and lots of money

>>18977858
Didnt read. You dont.

>>18977894
I've got excellent connexion in european movie industry that I got absolutely randomly, I might start to exploit that

>>18977858
you go to a top tier college and creampie the hottest chick there. that's what i did and now I'm set. also i was already elite

>>18978023
I studied stem, it wasn't an opportunity I had, feelsbadman

>>18978023
pics or it didn't happen

>>18977955
i happen to know a few families....very very tangentially, friend of a biz partner stuff.
they use philanthropic events to socialize basically because it preselects other attendees. in other words, a 50k plate dinner fundraiser for the local museum.
you don't want to meet them professionally (ie in business) because they will just view you as laughable or prey to be killed. the only realistic way is to meet them socially.
the problem will become at step 2: what are you going to say about your family background, etc.

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>>18978199
how about meeting the young people from those families as well ? I'm sure they don't follow their parents at boring fundraiser... If money is the key to the gate, it isn,'t much of an issue.

What about producing good pieces of art ? Would artistes be welcome in this world ?

Step 2 is quite easy for me, 4-5 generations of upper-middle class + me orphan at a young age generates a lot of sympathy

Story about the closest I came to elite :
>Meet qt girl on tinder
>2nd or 3rd date she let it slip that her uncle is rich
>Turns out it wasn't just her uncle, but the whole famiy
>Was educated with some (((famous))) banker's sons
>She falls in love with me
>She doesn't want kids so we say bye bye

I could have stayed with her to gain access to her friends and stuff, but she was the sperg of the family so almost no friends.

>>18977858
You need to become useful to them.

>>18978480
Yeah I tought about it, it's hard to offer something to people that have it all.

Maybe some kind of services that appeal to the desires of their kids ?

Let's say their kids want to be rockstars, I would create a team specifically to help those little brats achieving that with very little effort, like with a singing peofessor, some sound technicians, a studio already booked and so on. But how to market it to them ?

>>18978605
open a pizza parlor

>>18978468
>She doesn't want kids so we say bye bye
holy shit
imagine believing what comes out of women's mouths
regardless of what they say their nesting instincts always kick in with time
you are stupid

>>18978312
If you meet the young people they will either be of two types
A) dumb, party a lot, do drugs, no motivation. Just flaunt wealth others have earned. Even if you manage to capture their attention none of the real players in the family will respect you because you are just an extension of the dumby.
B) The groomed. Marrying one of the elites children who are groomed to become a real player in the family automatically gains you power. The catch 22 is that they are just as hard to infiltrate as the older generation because they have been taught from a young age how to spot someone like you. They would likely be looking to marry someone of equal or greater status to increase their own social wealth and connections.

Just my thoughts. There are a lot of elites grandchildren out there who have zero motivation, drive, self respect, self confidence. Essentially spending their family's resources
Those who flaunt the wealth are just projecting their own insecurities.

>>18978674
I agree, but she was a sperg and even if convinced I highly doubted she will be a good mother, I took that into account for that decision. And, they were rich, but nor crazy rich. Maybe in the 20-100 millions range

>>18977858
You need to have gone to an Ivy League school, otherwise there's no chain in America.

t. Poor Ivy Leaguer who dated a billionaire's daughter

>>18977858
We should have a joining the elite thread generals on /biz/. Would be lots of LARPing, but I think a lot of anons could gain something from it.

>>18978674
Yup, my grandpa basically impregnated my grandma against her will. She was happy about it after all.

>>18978605
>I would create a team specifically to help
LOOOOL

They own the whole music industry, I hope you know that. Every celebrity in music and movies that you know about are either blood-related to elite families or working for them.

It's a very big international club.

Best bet to join them would probably be to:
>start a social media company
>start a company that can be used for social programming
>start a talk show and become a controlled op like Alex Jones and Joe Rogan
>be handsome enough to become a fuccboi to some spirit cooking slut

>>18977858
Why would anyone want to join the elite though?

Whats your job?

>>18978752
I get the idea. Even if those are you tought it's still interesting to have an other view on the situation.

I don't plan on beeing parasitic either, I have a lot and a lot of various skills and knowledge that could be at use. I just have to find a way to advertise them

>>18978674
I had an ex girlfriend call me wanting to get back together after popping out 2 kids in 2 years. Women are whores.

>>18978836
Yep I agree with you, the music industry was just and exemple. I have other ideas

Good ideaw for the social media stuff, but I don't plan on beeing a pawn

>>18978870
I don't have a job. I studied in Stem, now I earn money through my real estate and business that is starting to take off.

I have enough money and enough balls to launch any project of any kinds when I want it (still it has to be reasonnable), but it doesn't mean that I'll succeed every time

>>18978921
>but I don't plan on beeing a pawn
That's the best you can become, unless you're giga high IQ and become Tony Stark.

>>18977858
Have you read The Great Gatsby?

It's not the money which is preventing you from joining high society. It's your birthright and low class

>>18978961
>I earn money through my real estate
youre a landlord? You cant call yourself middle class if youre a young man that owns real estate

>business that is starting to take off.
Oh excuse me your Lordship. You dont have a job, you have a business.
How long does one have to talk with you to appease you enough for you to answer what is that you fuckin do for a living...

Why join an elite class of old money when you will never fit in due to circumstances outside of your control? I would look for some women on the new money side of things. Higher odds of success and you'd probably be happier.

>>18978961
Also
>I studied in Stem
Why... Why dont you simply say what you studied? Also, its STEM

>>18978993
Yep, highly overrated book

I read somewhere that it takes 3 generations to bring a fortune into the ground, I'm trying to appeals to decling fortunates and to take the spot of a manager to prevent the retardation of the heirs.

It was happening with my ex, granddad was the source of the income, dad was the manager from the outside of the family, her and her brothers will bring it to the ground. Rich heir are retarded because they don't understand the value of money since they were raised in abundance

Locate the most affluent locations in your area and Tinder yourself there. Alternatively, befriend at least three females of the type you want to date (don't fuck them) and they will introduce you to the type you're looking for and you'll learn more of what they look for. Find activities that you would allow you to bump into people of wealth as well. You're a smart guy, you'll figure it out.

>>18979032
It's a game of time. Worked 3 years in stem, saved a lot so I could buy renting real estates, got lucky and went on neetbux allowing me to build my business. Took 5 years of grinding in total. Anyone can do it if you set up long term plans and stick to it.

My business is online and now that the heavy lifting is done I put maybe 5-10 hours a week in it, not sure I understand the whole lordship comment

>>18979080
Fucking engineering like a fucking cuck. Oil and ressources to be precise. What a stupud career.

It pained me to see all my uber high IQ colleagues being content having a 8-18h schedules for an average salary (europoor, remember). All of them were smarter than management yet none could get the balls to escape this shit. Engineers are the true bros that make other people's dream come true

>>18979129
>not sure I understand the whole lordship comment

It's very frustrating that you deliberately give vague answers to very straightforward questions.
This is how humans speak ( you know humans, right?)
>I studied Computer Science and run an online music store
This is how you explain yourself:
>I studied something in STEM area and now I earn money through business.

>>18979120
Excellent advice, sometime I forget the basics because I think too much.

I'm elite and married a normie because she has a big butt and lets me dick her pooper. find a fetish and exploit it.

>>18979188
Ok I got it, it's funny because I sometimes have communication problems like that when I don't focus

I made a business selling apps, I partnered with a comp science guy and a marketing guy, after trial and error we could shit decent products that sell quite good. At first I tought I had too many skills to lower myself to "just make an app bro", but I was arrogant : that's where the money is right now

>>18977858
1. Get into finance or law.
2. Be a psychopath.
3. Do psychopath things
4. Wait until they approach you.
5. Kill them.

>>18977955
This is basically it
The wealthy basically work through social networks IRL rather than those online

The other thing to just kind of know is that wealthy upper crust women are generally smart and aren't marrying you young. The correlate to this is that wealthy men that marry them tend to be a bit older and with a lot of experience fucking young women.
If you haven't done this, you now have the money to and probably should. Despite her being hot and smart, your 28year old wealthy future spouse won't be hot longer than a few more years and she'll expect you to have gotten most of your dirtbagness out of your system by the time you decide to settle down.

>>18979378
I'm not sure I follow you. I now have enough money to fuck younger girls and do it now rather than after getting married ?

>>18979461
Yes
Getting used to having hot 19 year olds on your dick is a huge confidence booster, teaches you to handle the incessant shit tests that are women and provide your woman a joy she'll never admit to: getting a guy who could "have anyone he wants" to pick only her
Even if she knows it's kind of bullshit

>>18979511
Never tought about it, it's really interesting. I always tought it would be frown upon if I went fucking 18-20 yo girl.
Actually I don't show my wealth and I have no game so it's harder to score those, I'll work on that (not ugly, being socially competent just takes extra work for me, like staying focus on what i'm doing)

>>18977858
you either work regularly on your handicap or buy a yacht. always become a club member and attend some - not all - events of the clubs. be sure the low tier upper class faggots will try to trick you and everyone laughs behind your back about you.
it is much harder to go up than go down. good luck making it but don't tell them about 4chan. i don't want those better born kids here. they're mentally ill enough because of their relatives inbreeding all the time because they rather fuck their siblings than accept an ordinary man or woman in their circles.

>>18979587
In upper crust circles you can do almost anything as long as it's done discreetly and with taste
For every dumb celeb getting busted for coke there are 10 high end businessmen and wealthy heirs who do it socially and none is the wiser. Same true for fucking young girls or any other hedonism. The thing to avoid is any appearance of classlessness. If a woman points out that you've fucked everything that walks, you never say yes, you say some glib bullshit like "I find it so important to share my wisdom with the young and eager"

Also sad truth is that a LOT of upper crust women have whored around a ton. Same deal for them, nobody will ever talk about it but wealthychad probably has a video of him and his lacrosse pal spitroasting her in HS

>>18979378
Good advice, please post more, if possible :)

>>18977858
lawofone.info

i doubt you actually want to pursue the left hand path, it's literally eternal damnation and takes a lot of work to do that

>>18977858
You aren't jewish, or having jewish relatives, so you won't.

>>18979699
Actually it's funny when people mention 4Chan i always tell them "stop going on that, b and pol are full of schizos, you're better off on reddit". I never mention the gem in the rough that /biz/ can be. It will be our secret little club

About the yacht, a rich man once told me: "buying a boat will make you happy twice: once the day you buy it, once the day you sell it".

>>18979768
>i doubt you actually want to pursue the left hand path, it's literally eternal damnation and takes a lot of work to do that
what the fuck do you mean schizo? elaborate

>>18979745
I guess the final redpill for this decision is that it is simply a decision. As with all of them there are tradeoffs.
If you're really looking for the upperest crust you won't find a virgin who wants to marry, so you'll be hoping for a low mileage woman in mid-late 20's. That's a tough proposition with a decent divorce risk (even though the risk is less because of education and the fact that she won't take your money). Remember if you're truly looking at the elite she's been around the chaddest chads you can imagine and those chads have no monetary or access limitations. The likelihood that you're truly honestly her first choice is close to zero, even if you end up marrying her.

There are lots of other options that offer as good or better risk/reward profiles but marrying the elite is a much better choice than the average. If that's the profile you're looking for, go for it.

>>18979768
I generally agree, but there’s a difference between having 100mm in the family and being part of the global elite

>>18977858
My wife isn't elite, but her dad is a blue collar millionaire and she grew up around self-employed people.

both of those things helped me make more money than usual. Her dad has given us loans over the years, and she didn't bat an eye when I wanted to buy a business. My last wife would've never allowed that kind of risk.

>>18979893
What did you end up deciding to do in your life? Regarding marriage?

>>18978752
I'm "A". I mix with ANY woman as long as she fucks and has a good body

I guess maybe opposite sex "a" types do so too

>>18980009
What are you looking for in life ?
I always wonder :" with all the money in the world, do you truelly have the will to achieve something higher than you ?"

>>18979941
It'll sound fake but I decided that I wanted youth beauty and virginity over wealth, class or education. Ended up with a woman who makes my life better every day and thinks shes lucky to have landed me.

>>18980161
I tought you could have it all: marry for wealth and power, to give the best opportunities to your kids, and keep a couple gf on the side

>>18980161
And, side question : do you have to show your wealth to get the qties, or is there a more discreet way to meet them ?

>>18979044
This He does prove a point especially if a currency is overdue for shift (theoretically monetary policy should change every 200+ years to account for the ever constant evolution of trade and commodities)The "Elites" will have to find a new way to become the elites otherwise they will get left behind. But You do u

>>18980079
Im set. I was a drinker and a smoker and a sex freak (bdsm) ....Now i just meditate /sunbathe/swim. I took the zen pill

I dont hustle or work hard or shit like that...but i will return to my degerate ways soon coz sobriety is VERY VERY gay

>>18978480
What services do you think is in most demand for the elite? The best route is probably private security and medical. Medical has a lot more hurdles though.

>>18980348
Both are useful for them, but you won't be able to enter the elite that way.

>>18980324
But If you're currently looking for the current elites it's always philanthropic events normally or light sporting events. I'm not sure why but it just works. Trust me it just does.

>>18979120
>Locate the most affluent locations in your area and Tinder yourself there.
They really don't use Tinder other than for validation. I have met some broads from millionaire families in NYC from Tinder, but you're only going to get something maybe in these metropolises.

>>18980348
It reminds me of two girls i met in SE asia, they were working on a local farm for a month, typical white girl things right, and they were going to do meditation in a remote location or whatnot. A friend of her that went with them to the said farm then told me their dad own a chain of luxury hotels, I was like oh ok. Last new they were growing organic food in bumfuck nowhere in Canada. It kinda blew my mind that when they had it all they chose such a simple lifestyle

>>18979120
>Find activities that you would allow you to bump into people of wealth as well.
This is what I always wander about. We should brainstorm a list. Bridge seems like an obvious hobby that could allow this. Aviation, boating are good too. I'm not sure how you break into those, but maybe someone can chime in?

Sports would be a good one. They're big cardio fags, but I'm not sure how you mingle them with that. Tennis, badminton/squash, golf are all great too.

Philantrophy is definitely the best bang for your buck though. I'm not sure how to break into that though. Always hated the people involved with it, some of the most selfish people ever. Again, maybe someone can answer how to slide yourself in.

>>18980530
>Bridge
I want to meet elite that have less than 70 yo tho
>Golf
I think now it has been plagued by nouveaux riches

As a sport I would add polo

>>18980468
>they were going to do meditation in a remote location or whatnot.
This is another thing you can do to slide yourself in, becoming a "guru." They are very popular amongst the Silicon Valley crowd now. You could LARP your way as another Rasputin, but I doubt that's your personality.

Also, I recommend you to read The Book of the Courtier for some perspective on what I think you're trying to achieve.

I don't really understand the point of your post though in connection to mine. That some of the elite doesn't seem to have very specific needs for their ambitions? It's a given that most of them are NPCs and duds, just read any Balzac novel.

>>18980598
>I want to meet elite that have less than 70 yo tho
These are the people most likely to help someone like you though. They love ambitious, young white males and will want to help you out especially if they have no heirs or competent heirs. Once you reach that age, you focus on creating a "legacy," and many will still be searching for a living person to pass on their mantle too.

>>18980598
>polo
Don't believe this is popular in America, but good recc. Also, art is another very good one too. Especially if you can build a quality collection of a specific luxury good. Hang out at a high end art auction houses occasionally and talk to the staff. They assume anyone who walks in there is a potential customer or connection to someone. I went once and got invited to a black tie dinner talking to the staff there.

>>18980714
I guess I still have the image that beeing born in the highest class they would have at least taught their kids how the world work.

Nothing wrong with meditation, it was the growing organic food part that I don't grasp; had I 20 millions let's say, and if I wanted to frow organic food, I would buy land, build facilities, hire peiple, most definitly I wouldn't have my hands in the dirt growing potatoes all day long. It's a waste of your resources

>>18977858
Go on the Raya app, if your as well off and elite as you say you are you should be able to pay the fee and be accepted. Raya is the site the real illuminate or 1% use to match make and find the best of the 99%. After you apply please update us about the process and the outcome.

>>18980800
Mmh, you made a point.

Also, it looks like you're from america; being from EU, I think elite would enjoy slighly different activities.

>>18980839
>beeing born in the highest class they would have at least taught their kids how the world work
Many of these people aren't actually raised by their parents. They're raised by nannies and tutors as their intermediary parents. Mom is too busy socializing over wine and dad is too busy doing business. I've tutored many of these kids. Many of them are dumb as a rock and have very little perspective or understanding how world works, but maybe I got hired to tutor them because they were idiots :)

>>18980194
Possible as long as she's OK with it. If you're elite lying is beneath you, but a quiet "arrangement" is fine.
The problem with that is that you're new money. If you were a 38 year old Kennedy or Rockefeller you'd have a vanilla upper crust 28 year old happy to have the prestige and look the other way as long as you kept it discreet and out of the media. If you're new money with no social class to give that will be a hard sell.
>>18980252
If you really have money you should also learn how to use it: you can hire game coaches for one on one sessions to teach you how to talk to women, you can afford to go have a drink in the most expensive bar every afternoon, learn all the staff's names and be a local celeb every time you walk in...
You can even desensitize yourself by doing all of this and having a few sugar babies on the side. For me personally the big confidence boost came from dating multiple women at the same time and realizing that they were largely OK with it. Sometimes they'd start pushing for exclusivity but always from a position of "only if you want to too" because they thought I was such a catch, ironically because I was just really confident because I knew if they left I had a few others that were just as fun.
It also teaches you a bunch of the player bullshit stuff like never giving a straight answer and never taking women seriously. Its seriously insane what women will let you get away with if you're just cheerful/polite and you don't do anything that might harm their reputation.
My favorite back then was the "I kissed a girl once" line. It's fucked up but I still use that on my wife and it still works.

>>18980864
I think raya is more for the nouveaux riches, I doubt elite and old money would be very active on social medias

>>18980871
>>18980917
>elite and old money
Yes, I'm American. I really don't know how you access the old European elite. I can only talk about the transnational, Atlanticist elite from my experiences. This elite is pretty homogenized, despite coming from various national backgrounds.

What hobbies do old elite actually do in Europe? Do you guys have anything like Social Register in America?

>>18980864
Also if you want to be a part you have to play the part. Get used to tipping, pay to play and generosity. Always tip or give to the people who help you.
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>>18980917
You are wrong about that. Also the 1% are the 1% your never going to marry into nobility but you can marry into a family that can help you achieve your wildest dreams.

>>18981053
>Also the 1% are the 1% your never going to marry into nobility but you can marry into a family that can help you achieve your wildest dreams.
I agree with this. The best you can work for is to marry into American Royalty like Arnie did.

>>18980916
I understand a few of those rules. It has been made clearer by what you just said.

Before renting it, I lived alone in a big ass house, like 8 bedrooms. I would bring girls back home, and they didnkt even dared to ask questions, and I actually had a few 7's a the same time with them knowing about the others.

They tought I was loaded, because I wasn't "working" and had such a big place. Truth is, I was in the final phase of the grind, just before lauching my business, and I was on a strict 300€/month budget haha. It comes partially from perception of wealth, and to extend to the elite, perception of power. That didn't boost my self confidence sadly.

Soon, I'll get my classy elite wifu. You know what's the worst while dating in the middle class ? The slave mentality. "But... You HAVE to have a job and a good career!"

>>18981095
>>18981053
That's partly what I'm looking for, while also being careful not to give up too much freedom and having the possibility to remain unknown to the public. I like when people don't know about my life.

My worst nightmare would be a scenario like the father-in-law pushing me into politics or something like that in exchange for his support

>>18981229
What are you doing as a career now anon? What's your plan to join the elite, do you have anything conceptualized?

>>18981509
I studied engineering, i now do small scale projects as an entrepreneur as If feel like it.

I plan on finishing my current project, moving abroad for 6 months to use the language i've been studying lately (it's an autistic one) then I'll work on my social skills for 6 months. That leaves one year to have a battle plan ready, and I know it will be ready, I'm too obsessed about it

>>18980714
>>>18979893
I like the literary refrences, fren. You seem cool.

>>18977858
OP, I am semi-decent at this. I live in Europe.
a) where are you located
b) what is your understanding of rich
c) what is your level of autism (i.e. how comfortable are you around normies)
d) religion, hobbies, interests
e) is your business somewhat status or nerd shit

>>18978752
this is true. you have to be good at spotting loner girls. almost impossible to break with high status super social girls unless your autism is super unique

>>18981692
a) accursed land of belgistan
b) enough to open any possibilities whenever I have an autistic project in mind. 50mil+. And my goal is less about money and more about enjoying the company of higher class people
c) I am confortable but I play the mysterious guy to hide most of my contempt. It's highly successful desu
d) born in the way of the Lord, haven't made up my mind yet. Probably attached to christian traditions of europe. Hobbies include everything from art to science, there is nothing i'm not interested to really. I get passionnate easily because i'm addicted to knowledge. I practice sports but stopped the gym because it's not the good kind of normies there
e) it's making apps and real estate, quite shameful desu, my next gig might not be profitable but it will bring me status (in the arts)

>>18981835
>but it will bring me status (in the arts)
What are you doing in the arts fren

>>18981939
Losing money. Trying to set up something to connect people, and in the meanwhile I try to make some art on my own. I want to stay vague because I will be doxxing myself otherwise

>>18977858
>he doesn't know

>>18977858
Why do you want to be a baby raping scumbag anon? It doesn't matter anyway, you don't have the right bloodline or you wouldn't need to ask the question. Money isn't enough, not by a long shot.

>>18978312
>Upper-middle class
Lmfao, so delusional that you think this is possible

>>18981122
Know what gives you away? Your pathetic craving for status itself is a product of being middle class. They don't need to crave it, they just are it.

>>18981835
Alright, I am from Germany and playing a few leagues below you. I am an only child but my parents hold real estate at around 5m and have transferred already most to my name.
Just a few thoughts since I pondered long about this shit.
If you want to marry up, you have to tilt the game in your favor as much as possible. Here are the things I am doing/have done:
1) you have to move to a city which is at least ridden with millionaires. there are not that many in europe, but you know the drift - zurich, frankfurt, munich, london, maybe monaco if this is your crowd
2) if you go for <25 girls, you have to up your game to chad level. meaning get a personal trainer and a nutritionist/assitant who checks your meals, and really gets you into that beach body shape
3) understand what looks rich and what is rich. meaning dont buy dolce&gabbana but buyloro piana
4) philabtrophy is a us meme. in europe it is a lot harder especially for younger people
5) if you are under 35 do a masters degree at one of the eu old school money schools. oxbridge, st gallen
6) larp as a student but join the rich kids clubs, i hope you are good at sailing, hunting or golfing by now. this is a given that you are decent at one of these at least. intern at one of the globalist institutions - un, uno, nato, eu parlament to built your network
7) stalk your countrie's old money people and figure out the clubs and organizations they belong to. over here you know it quite well just by the name. if somebody is named "prinz von", you know it is old heritage money
8) get coaching but vet the people like crazy. really check if they are good at what they are doing. whenever i have money i do this. i threw that at an old guy who was good at dating chicks half his age, a young "prinz von" who does business coaching and came out of that social circle, or just a random guy at your pick up lair. you need to have real contast of input at that thing that you want to become good at to find the right balance

>>18982136
Extramely based input mein freund.

About the university thing, isn't the entry based upon a selection or some stuff ? I have a master in engineering, and I would gladly do a master in finance since I find the topic highly captivating, but I don't thing i'll get it since I had shit grade. Shit, I made my own business but I would be denied in business school because Ibwas a lazy student. I wasn't understanding the game back then. But I don't thini I want to go to the "big firl route"; I would rathee try to be my own man as much as possible. I cannot suck any single corporate dick anymore. I did that three years and it nearly broke me. Much more hampy being my own boss and looking for interesting partners.

Any idea where to find trainers ? Just type it ik google and skim really hard ?

Actually I have my boat lincense and I enjoy hunting and wanted to get into horse riding to try it out. Anything to escape the normie crowd.

How is living in Germany btw ? I wanted to go an try living in a small german village for two months to see how it is

>>18982136
>stalk your countrie's old money people and figure out the clubs and organizations they belong to
How do you do this? Generallty, I find little information on them online, but maybe I have poor detective skills. Any tips you can share?

>rich kids clubs, i hope you are good at sailing, hunting or golfing by now
how do people join these outside of university in Europe? Because in America, usually you get involved during university.

>>18982374
Horrendous spelling due to 1am phoneposting, sorry everyone

>>18982374
Truth is this is a larping game if you are new-rich. You have to avoid giving of that smell at all cost. Meaning things must look as if you are doing things because you really like them or see your mission in them. If you really were passionated about world peace you would probably sitting on Klaus Schwab's feet and talk about whatever bs you care about (btw there is an excellent documentary on the WEF somewhere on youtube check it out).
My target are girls coming from old royalty. Usually in these familes their first son gets all the heritage so girls are a little less protected and at a lower level (freiherr, graf, e.g. not prinz or fürst etc) available to non-royal guys.
I don't really care about their money, but about their family values and usually their very conservative viewpoints. I don't run around in barbour quilted jackets all day, but truth is, many of these still do.
In terms of academic stuff - if you have money you can buy your way in. There is always a way to push that stuff in one way or another. Just go on upwork and find some poor academic whom you can publish a paper with or be creative in your way of polishing your profile that you have exceptional circumstances. There are of cause always executive masters but they are usually atracting a 30-40 crowd. At least not my target group.
For coaches you need to live in one of these rich cities. Otherwise they are crap because nobody is willing to pay 100-300 euros per hour.
Germany - overall it is good. I am living in one of these cities mentioned. I grew up in the country side but would never move there unless I have a family. If you have the money you can buy your own hunting grounds around Leipzig or Desden still relatively cheaply.
This thing is also mentally challenging because it fucks up with your existing mindset and - considering you are posting here- you can't talk about it that freely. If you have the money get some therapy well. Just tell them you have a social problem.

>>18982381
Linkedin and Xing profiles. Or your local news. You often find these people active in relatively local poltics because they see this as their mission to improve their local community. You can also just google their name. Often their dad might be more visible than themselves.

>>18982381
Look up your last district/city election and check the names of the most conservative party in the richest district. That should give you a good starting point.

>>18982608
Already seeing a shrink, it's liberating because you can talk freely. I even managed to get one that worked for the poor, I have 6 fig annual passive income and I managed to ger a half-priced shrink; that's talent.

Just out of curiosity, what do you want out of the elite class ? Why do you want to go there ?

>>18982651
>Xing profile
Never heard of this before, thanks.

>excellent documentary on the WEF somewhere on youtube check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlWc6nKUr_U

is this it? can't find the full one on yt rn

>>18982694
I enjoy spending time with people who just talk about ideas and are not hunted by the daily grind.
Also in the end I grew up as a super protected kid and find that girls coming from similar conservative, old school value backgrounds make the best life partners. My worldview is very pol like so these old money girls are very competible. Also I have to admit that one of the things in life I enjoy the most is a good challenge and having to stretch myself. Both of that is inherent in that challenge. The game is also a bit rigged against be because I am 32 and only going for girls under 25 but so far it is going well. You can work, study, invest, all your life. But marring rich is beating all those options. That's why it is the most valuable thing to invest and focus on.

>>18982736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4eLJEjhbVs
here you go. hope your german is good

>>18982833
And does upping your game really help ? I don't even know where to find younger girls to be honest, and I don't want to creep them out in bars. I'm younger than you brw

I find 25+ so boring but the age gap makes me quite insecure. I had a 20 yo gf last year and I was ashamed to say it

I 100% agree about people thinking only about the grind. We're truelly slave of money until we have enough to realize that wasn't the goal but the mean. It's impossible to connect with normal people anymore; a close friend of mine was recently talking about how he got a nice raise of fucking 150€ after two years working there. He fucking got more responsability out of it too; so he traded 5 more hours of work peer week for 150€ per month. It's crazy.

>>18982994
That's why I suggested that thing about going back to university and doing internships in semi powerful organizations. You need to stay relatable and have a bit of similar pains and gains. Otherwise you are out of the loop to their world and have to fake it up too much.

>>18983078
Smart. Maybe you could find old money girls in litterature or art universities as well ?

How long have you been working on it ? Any success so far ?

https://www.instagram.com/nickyhilton/

>>18983108
Yes you can. Especially art history and so on attract girls coming from backgrounds with passion but no need to generate money.
My biggest success is from good old street pickup. Once you know the look of money you can spot it quite easily. She was having the right vibe, coming from somewhat 10x of my background and at 19 y/o. We were together for about a year but split up last year. Problem was her dad was hyping here like crazy to work hard and do a regular job. He earned it all himself and was afraid that I am going to be a bad influence on her, also not that happy with the age gap. Also, I am socially not that smooth and avoided meeting him for a long time, which is still super important for only-child girls at that age etc. Social things are complicated thats why I am advocating that thing about exposng yourself to as many situations as possible. I am larping atm at a social youth organization with a 50% background in heritage families. But I still suck at group social things so i just play it slow and did not make any moves. Pandemic stuff is also not helping.

>>18983220
Lmao you're a real hunter, I like your style but probably won't go that way myself. When you say social things are complicated, you mean for you or with money people ? Tbf, i despise people showing off their money, that's why no one could guess i am rich before knowing me

>>18983283
Both ways. For example I belive art ist the same level of make belive bullshit as shitcoins. I own some stuff that 10x'ed but nobody can explain to me why. Most of it is stored under my bed anyways because it is so ugly. I have some Shrigley, Weiner and Meese originals on my walls. But I think new art attracts a less conservative type of rich that is more open to creative experiences i.e. drugs or open relationships, i.e. not my crowd.

>>18983283
Also, you shouldn't dress poorly. Get some super high-quality stuff that looks to average girls like it is from H&M. Once you are into it enough, you recognize a hand stitched collar from a machine made. That's the level of rich you want to show, because those who are in the known understand you are one of them.

>>18983507
>Once you are into it enough, you recognize a hand stitched collar from a machine made.
How do you learn this? Conversation from tailor? Books?

>>18983395
>>18983220
Also, how did you get involved in art collection yourself? Where did you start? Were you into it since you were kid?

>>18983507
>>18983395
Thanks for those comments & advise ! I'm going to bed soon, it was a nice conversation my german bro, I wish you the best of luck in reaching your goals. Hope you'll find people to share a beer and have a deep conversation freely one day, even if it's those awful german beers ;)

>>18983592
You find me around shilling for some shitcoin out of boredom and just for the $50 of a swing trade. That's a bit of a downside of that life. Good luck!

>>18983562
You need time. There are forums and websites for every ridiculous topc. I once hang out in a forum where posters were buying jackets and then sending them to a taylor in Itally just so he could change the buttonholes from the machine made style to real hand made stitching. He paid something like $35 per hole. Same with paiting. Look at ArtFacts to understand how artists perform and then be creative about searching for their names and finding relatively cheap art for sale that is worth investing in.

>>18978023
im attending stanford in the fall whats the strat

>>18977858
Could the jannies ban this fucking troll already?

>>18983863
he seemed legit
sometime we all gonna make it
nobody wants to fuck rosties after that

>>18983839
Based. I hope you're tall and white anon. It's pretty easy to get into some rich girl pants, especially the first few weeks of school where every girl is a literal whore and the social distinctions haven't totally crystallized yet. My experience in the Ivy League.

>>18983786
How do you come across these forums? Do you just search "x topic" + "forum" ? That's usually my strat, let me know any niche forums you'd recommend to check out

>>18983786
Thanks for insight anon, you've been great ITT

>>18984028
I am German so most advice probably don't relate to your cause.
For art search up new art editions. I am not in OPs category, meaning my art needs to perform and I won't throw money at something that has not potential. Compare their postings to artfacts rankins and is you find something that has is unique or has a low number of publications buy it.
But be aware this is not like how the real art scene works. The real one is a lot more personal and social and peope buy and sell with their friends. I just buy substantially undervalued objects at the right time and store them under my bed....

>>18983592
>>18984060
In case any of you want to play around with more of those ideas hit me up at MoneyGoesBrrr@protonmail.com

>>18977858
The old money will smell you a mile away so don't bother wasting time.

>>18984271
Great, thanks!
>>18984402
sent e-mail to keep in touch

>>18984507
A bit surprising that it's only the three of us who are into that power/legacy game

>>18977858
just be yourself

>>18984951
Probably because lots of people actually involved in it or who have made serious headway have left the board or check this board very sparingly. They realize how much more valuable their time is being applied towards their goals than mindlessly shitposting here and hoping to stumble upon a golden nugget like this thread.

But yes, you'd think a few anons would be more interested in it. Could be also because most Americans don't necessarily have a defined version of what makes someone elite other than having "fuck you" money

>>18985052
>Could be also because most Americans don't necessarily have a defined version of what makes someone elite other than having "fuck you" money
So they don't necessarily bother with marrying into the right families and focusing on other minutiae, and instead hope gambling on shitcoins can make them elite

Elite and being rich isn't the same thing.

>>18985086
True. It is probably just the overlap between pol and biz that makes the succes but still good ol values overlap.

>>18985280
You've got something there, but also, of all the things you could do if you got really rich chasing higher social status seems pretty low on my list of things to do.

>>18985416
What do you prioritze?

>>18977858
Go to a good college or have friend who go to a good college, and go to parties.

But really, why would you? The elite are mostly a bunch of arrogant idiots without any vision, if you have true ambition your goal should be to build a new and better elite yourself.

>>18985914
This is some high IQ truth, but that's the hardest thing possible. Fuck it though only one life. Go big or go home.

>>18985914
You have to pick your battles
There are a lot of options
If you need to create your own eleite you pronably did not get to know what options there really are

>>18985914
This is the true question.
Why do we need status from incompetent elites who can't understand us ?
Isn't the goal of making it to be finally free to do what is meaningful to us ?
Chasing after the elite looks like a replacement of wage slaving and a way to boost the ego through outside validation.
Spending a huge amount of time and money on people who only got status by being born with it and behave like NPCs with a different programming doesn't look very meaningful.
They will never understand people who started out from the bottom and wanted to get somewhere.

My gf's family is full of rich lawyers but theyre all pretty insufferable. Very definition of champagne socialists

>>18977858
Base

>>18987007
Lawyers aren’t elite anon. They’re just the field medics for the business and personal affairs of the elite.

>>18988280
Bump

>>18977858
go to Burning Man, a lot of rich people end up there. Or look into something like Fyre Festival that attracts rich kids and try to grind on Bill Gate's daughter in the crowd or whatever

>>18989231
Base