/biz/ - Business & Finance

not selling

OH GOD IM GONNA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMP EEEEEEEEEEEET

So if oil goes negative again how can I profit from it?

SNIB SNAB HERE COMES THETA CRAB

>>18935374
doomp denied

Can’t wait for Friday cheapies

You haven't lost shit until you capitulate. I really hope I don't get assigned tomorrow.

>RTX candle forming

who here a/LYV/

>tfw only -10% on my prtfolio today
I think I’m getting the hang of this whole options trading thing

>>18935338
The needle coming out of the llama's eye is grossly creepy. Bullish.

Powel, just let it die. Don't you understand the cost of your hubris???

>>18935382
>get paid to take contract
>get to crude oil producer to collect
>dump useless black liquid
>sell barrel
WE DID IT

i lost so much money today on brent, (1k usd), how can i psychologically recover ? also holding puts on ZM

https://www.baka.com.au/business/markets/don-t-buy-the-index-investing-in-the-time-of-the-coronavirus-20200506-p54qaz.html
>Don't 'buy the index': Investing in the time of the coronavirus

>>18935391
Put your limit buys in tonight.

>>18935338
R O K U
O
K
U

>>18935396
Calls or puts?

NO PUMP TODAY LOL

REFR moon mission

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

>>18935424
>1K USD
>so much money
Just work a month

REMINDER THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO GET OUT BEFORE JOB REPORTS

OR BUY IN, WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR GOAT I GUESS

SHOULD I BUY MRO BEFORE CLOSE? IDGAF ANYMORE ILL GO ALL IN AND BY ALL IN I MEAN 1.2K AS A POOP EUROPEAN STUDENT

TELL ME NOW B4 MARKET CLOSES@!!!!!!

>he didn't buy TMUS calls
lmao

DOOMP EET

>>18935442
Calls

>>18935443

>>18935477
>jobs report
WHO GIVES A SHIT

>>18935478
STOP SHOUTING

ALSO WHAT IS POOP EUROPEAN?

Reminder that Zoom puts or calls are literally Nasdaq puts or calls

>>18935478
>>18935477
stop sperging with the caps lock

reposting in this thread about the Mark Cuban blogpost:

>>18935323
>>18935252

Yeah even though the blogpost is a little too panicky for my liking, it's usually good to have more statistics, especially when it comes to the business side of reopening. From what I can gather from the post, there wasn't anything too eye opening about the reopening of business:

>most businesses are still afraid to reopen
>the businesses that WOULD follow all the protocols are the ones that have been bit by the panicporn bug hardest, so they won't even reopen for a while
>the businesses that think COVID-19 is a farce are the ones that are more likely to reopen, and therefore they're less likely to follow the protocols

this seems to leave a mixture of lots slow reopening and less use of safety measures, kind of a lose/lose for everyone

>>18935495
Nobody at this point. Economy is done as we know it, but as long as the stock market is good, we good!

>>18935501
>>18935507
GOD DAMNIT GIVE ME A YES OR NO FAGGOT AND BY POOP I MEAN POOP

LAST CALL FOR TANKERS BEFORE POSSIBLE MOON MISSION TOMORROW. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED, GET SHARES IN NOW OR WATCH AS POTENTIAL GAINS MISSED OUT! I REPEAT, SHIPS ARE SETTING SAIL!

>>18935489
You did set a strike price above your cost basis, right?

wanting to put your dick in this makes you jewish according to /biz

>>18935547
I DON'T FUCKING KNOW ABOUT MRO

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18935549
Why? What catalyst

>buying oil dip
>dollar cost averaging into cheap dividend stocks
>covering my assets from inflation

Anything else I should be doing?

>>18935561
credit spreads my guy. It's money on the line, not equity.

>>18935600
buying LK

>>18935600
drinking 2 liters of water a day

>>18935549
Don't worry I already doubled down on your shitty suggestion cause I'm a retard. fool me once...

Anon I have been spamming LYV
You now have less than a minute to heed my call
Where will you be tomorrow?
The good side of history, I hope
30secs
29

>>18935569
looks like she about to get eiffel towered by the Bogdanoffs

BOGGED

Bullish as fuck guys. I have bought back in!

Oh boy sure is great that literally all the action is outside market hours
ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>18935627
My puts are ready for blast off Sir!

End of day pump, what the fuck mumu!?

>>18935611
>buying LK
Lelel

>>18935629
>pooomp eeet

>>18935652
the fire rises brother

So how was your day anon

Uh, bullish???

CRAB DAY COMPLETE SNIBBIDY SNABBIDY BLOOD RED FRIDAY

>>18935649
As a mainly Asian market hour trader I thought all the actions occurs during American trading hour

>>18935652
It looked more like an end of day crab to me kek. This is so fucking boring, I genuinely don't give a shit which way it moves I just want to escape this crab hellhole.

>+7.43% today
If you’re a bobo, I just question your end game really. I get long term bearish because of the clown market we’re in, but so much money to be made in the meantime

Bullish, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-neimanmarcus-bankruptcy/luxury-department-store-chain-neiman-marcus-files-for-bankruptcy-idUSKBN22J2AJ

>>18935676
Made it big on paypal earnings

>Nasdaq rallies more than 1%, closes positive for 2020

Most ridiciolous shit. You cannot make this up anymore. hahaha

>>18935549
Finished in the green today. $4450 divvy on the way.

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I'm up .63%, crab day with many underperforming holds. Exited FDN for nice profit, feels like I've reduced my exposure to the market maybe too much, I'm holding a lotta cash. No real idea where we're going, wondering hard if I'm making the right decision by basically taking profits on anything more than ~5% profitable.

>>18935693
What tools are you using to bet on your long term bearish position?

>>18935687
Tempting to take a big long nap til all this passes

only a hundred today...

look at that fucking REFR go

still learning margin trading a bit. I was wondering about the minimum requirement of $2000. If i open the margin account with $2000 and use $1000 to buy stock plus another $1000 loaned by the broker equaling $2000, would that cause me to fall below the minimum and issue a margin call since I'll have $1000 left?

>>18935721
Up 2.14%

Think my USAC and ET position are mature for now (unless there's a big pullback, then i'll add more)

Adding DOW to divifolio

>>18935693
Anyone digging their head in the sand as a "team cheerleader", bull or bear, is an absolute retard. You ride the waves as they come. Personal emotions will fuck your gains

>>18935693
any perma[animal] in this market is dumb. things are too volatile.
im cash gang because im scared to do anything. i wouldnt feel comfortable buying puts unless they're very far out - maybe in the fall

>>18935636
>>18935679
I think it's seriously a good idea to stay away from the stock market until 2021 at least.

>>18935721
-63.8%

>>18935596
Rystad report and more inventory and supply cut assessments. Oilmageddon is on, reopening projections aren't going to increase demand over supply. We now may hit supply cap worldwide mid May rather than end of May or missing it entirely like the original Goldman Sachs analysis suggested. news articles flooded all day everywhere how oil supply is closing in and production/demand are not on track to preventing filling it completely unlike previous sentiment.

In other words, the tanker dream and best possible climate is going to happen all aligning when oil future contracts rollover. We are going to see oil suffer like never before, we might unironically see -100 a barrel this time around. Get out of your oil positions, now.

>>18935623
It is fine. Hold no matter what until May 19th and reassess then. You will be happy.

>>18935715
Good job sailor! I finished +8% today. Haven't fully calculated divvies, gonna wait on that until FRO earnings report.

>>18935735
Don't trade on margin if you are worried about having enough to keep a minimum. Ever.

>>18935726
I’m not betting on long term bearish because it doesn’t seem like we’ve peaked yet. When we start to see significant decline I’ll probably just pull out and put some money in short funds or puts on stuff I’m really bearish about

>>18935721
+1.0%, Pathetic crabbing at end of day, Sold a lot of bags.

>>18935419
He keeps 10 million on black rock.
He’s protecting his retirement.

>>18935715
USAC?

>>18935775
I have until june 5th before my options expire, you better be right you little nigger.

>>18935721
I OVERPAID AGAINNN!!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Uhhhh ROKU you okay????

>>18935721
very good day, hoping for a dip tomorrow to buy cheapies before monday pump

>I'm in the red for last 2 weeks
God fucking damn it fuck everything why did I ever stop swingtrading and fall for le value investing shit.

>>18935835
>buying single shares
Literally what the fuck is the point

>Uber Technologies Inc. announced on Thursday its first quarter revenue amounted to $3.54 billion.

GOD DAMNIT ROKU

>tfw still holding UAL from February
should I just take the tax write off at this point?

kek roku is literally a PND shitcoin now
i love this

>>18935859
If you are value investing, you shouldn't look at your stock every weeks

Literal nothingburger.

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients

>>18935859
make 3k day trading today (fake money tho) lmao short term fundamentals are memes.

>all of these dumps or pumps are after hours
This is unironically a bear signal. I'll be fucked if I am going to touch the earnings game

>>18935721
3.4%

>>18935818
DHT Q1 dividend

Anyone still hold onto MVIS? You better pray for a miracle. 50 minutes until earnings

>>18935890
Swingtrading was making mad dough compared to this fucking shit.

>>18935721
up 2%
hedge gang
straddle gang

>NOOOOOOOO THE STOCK MARKET IS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN
>MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE DYING

>>18935721
Made 700 on an easy SOXL play
Lost 60 buying lotto puts on Tesla Incase he said anything dumb on joe rogan, thru were up 50 at one point, but w/e

>>18935859
Value investing is trash but I understand for some people they are scared about losing.
But value investing is also literally DCAing in over months and then not looking at the account for years.

>>18935908
I fucking thought OKE was a meme like RTX.
Fuck me, how much % did I miss out on today?

>>18935928
What’s this pic?

>>18935650
>bet against everyone in pic rel
>bet against ZionWood
>bet against Mjewsic industry
>bet against MBS
>bet against Summer
the absolute state of /biz/

REFR EARNINGS TODAY,,

ACCUMULATE CHEAPIES UNDER 3 BOIS

http://www.timesofisrael.com/smart-glass-startup-gauzy-gets-funds-from-hyundai-motor-to-expand-product-reach/

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/04/23/2021035/0/en/Research-Frontiers-SPD-SmartGlass-Licensee-and-Strategic-Investor-Gauzy-Ltd-secures-the-Series-C-investment-from-Hyundai-Motor-Company-Blue-Red-Partners-VC-Singapore-and-Avery-Denn.html

https://flashalert.me/?symbol=REFR&source=PR&referer=https://stocktwits.com/&url=http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/05/04/2027007/0/en/RESEARCH-FRONTIERS-TO-HOST-FIRST-QUARTER-2020-CONFERENCE-CALL.html&s3=REFR/2020-05-04/16-01-39_000000/glob/42a33cf24faacc508e240201d5ecc9f6/RESEARCH-FRONTIERS-TO-HOST-FIRST-QUARTER-2020-CONFERENCE-CALL.html

>>18935721
Started out -5%, ended +2%. Today was a shitshow, but in my favor this time.

I have slowly come to the terrible revelation that none of you know what the fuck you are doing. I have a Master's in Accountancy with a minor in Finance. I work for a fortune 100 as a corporate accountant with a CMA and CPA. I used to have some faith in anon. None of you know how to actually value a company. You have no fucking clue how taxes work. You can't read financial statements. For fuck's sake you think TA works and the entire field of decision science churns out dissertations every other day highlighting their absolute dismay at the fact that brainlets ever consider using it. You have no idea what Dunning-Kruger is. You don't know what survivorship bias is. You are too fucking uneducated and stupid to comprehend how fucked you are.

Idk why I'm even posting this, fucking good luck kids.

>>18935861
Buy one share.
If you overpaid, the stock dumps 5%, buy 3 shares. Dumps again? Buy 5 shares? Dumps again? Make sure there’s not something big you’re missing. Then buy 10 shares.

>>18935706
My nigga. Me too. Calls? What was your entry/exit?

>>18935835
maybe I should get more KO, they're looking kinda nice @_@
>>18935920
nice!

>>18935948
Field hospitals that the government spent a billion dollars on and didn't treat a single person.

Hey guys, stupid question here. I have a call debit spread active, with the underlying above the strike price for both. But currently the spread is only valued at $0.10, making it look like a huge loss despite the fact that I would make maximum profit if it were to expire.

What conditions would allow me to take profits early, assuming the spread between the two contract prices will increase enough for that? Or am I stuck waiting until expiry?

Thanks, /smg/

>>18935928
You guys don't get exponential growth, but it's ok it's a complex topic

Should I buy class b berkshire shares or fractional class a shares?

>>18935981
>ALL DISEASES FOLLOW A MATHEMATICALLY PERFECT EXPONENTIAL CURVE

>>18935946
Today OKE was up 3.84%, but here is my YTD gain.

>>18935982
What the fuck's wrong with you?
How do you actually make money?

>>18935982
Just b urself

>>18935981
everyone will get it, but its controlled enough that it wont overwhelm hospitals, its over, give it up doomer

>AH pumping a retrace
I'm so tired of this shit.

>strangles on everything because everything’s been volatile after hours
>goes sideways today

Fuck me

>>18935982
b. it was designed to let poor people buy in

>>18935915
Blarg I have some. Decided it'll either be a miracle, or a good lesson learned. That's why I held...am holding...

>>18935981
Situation in the United States isn't developing exponentially right now, at least for places where economy happens

>>18935831
Plenty of time. Plenty.

Check out the volume on WM right at close. Huuuuuge buy right before and right after close. I wonder what it means

>>18935440
more like:

R
O
K
U

BULLS WIN!

THEY'VE DONE IT!


THE GRIZZLIES HAVE BEEN DEFEATED!


A NEW PARADIGM HAS BEGUN! THE NEW BULL MARKET BEGINS!


BULLS WIN! BULLS WIN! BULLS WIN!

>>18936063
it will rebound

>>18935956
You sound like a fag

How does anyone set a price target on Uber, a company that literally has not made profit in 11 years?

>>18936002
>he thinks the market dumped because of the flu
Ngmi brainlet

>>18935721
up a healthy percentile, if you need me ill be in the studio

>>18935956
AND I HEARD, AS IT WERE, THE NOISE OF CUNNY

>>18936085
SPY closed flat today.

>>18936142
Very bullish at the current market situation. Maybe 10% plus tomorrow.

>>18935338
i guess we can finally truly say
>Winter is coming

>>18936048
Daaaaaamn I missed the party. Oh well.
I guess WM could be thought of as a cyclical in a way, since it depends a lot on construction and stuff. But it also depends on schools and businesses...

Could be worth watching the CEO interviews from this week on CNBC.

>>18935969
Ko is good fun! Nice IRA hold I figure, no?

credit suiss says Sysco and Treehouse foods are set to outpreform this year... sounds familiar!

>>18936142

Everyone’s banking on AI vehicles at that point it’ll be a goldmine.

>>18936165
Flat? Jesus, permabears are deluded and retarded.

>Go to a casino
>Go to the roulette table
>Company messed up colours and the cheap casino bought one with red and green colours
>"Red or green, place your bets, sir."
>Sit down
>Bet on red
>Its green
>"Bad luck I guess"
>Bet on red again
>Its green
>Croupier has a smug smile under his big nose
>Bet on red again
>Its green
>All others on the table are laughing
>Croupier calls other big nosed gentleman over
>All bet on green
>"I will show them. Red it is!"
>Its green
>Everyone is laughing and takes their money
>You look under the table
>Theres a questionable expedient under the table
>Obviously manipulated the game
>Everyone can see it
>Its obvious to everyone
>"YOU CANT DO THIS, THIS QUESTIONABLE EXPEDIENT IS BAD!"
>"Please calm down, sir. Our QE equipment is legal. Place your bets."
>You bet on red despite the odds
>Its green
>"No.. this cant be. This is illegal! It should be red! he is obviously manipulating the table! Hes not allowed to do that!"
>You bet on red again
>"ITS RED!"
>Croupier takes ball and puts it into a green field
>"Its green, sir."
>You leave the casino just to come back to do the same the next day
>You start to tell others how the game is rigged and always green
>You also continue betting on red
Thats your life on Bobo juice, kids

>>18936165
went up a little aftermarket, bought calls lmao

>>18935721

Up 14% today today was a good day

>>18936187
Tesla is in a better position for it, even though I also think there is a massive overhype of Tesla too.
Uber's business model is a dead end. Their future vision is a dead end. And their paths to growth are dead ends.
>2 billion cash reserve was literally from their initial ipo
Who the fuck is buying this trash?

>>18936048
>be me
>work buy side desk at jpm
>buy at close, ah and before open like a good boy and pump stock
>dump at 0945 for 2% profit so I get headpats from my boss
Has nobody here ever worked in finance? Big boys are dumping their bags on you.

>>18936199
they're so desperate for a red day that any day not closing up 2% is a flat day

>>18935778
I'm not worried. I just want to know exactly how that process works.

>>18936180
I watched it. He was talking about how commercial service was way down and residential had fuller trash cans so they may have to raise prices. But commercial didn’t have a lot of cancellations, mainly just reduced service schedule.

>>18936212
That’s a lot of cope, retail faggot. I don’t know why I expected better.

>>18935953

conference call in 5 minutes

call in number

http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/05/04/2027007/0/en/RESEARCH-FRONTIERS-TO-HOST-FIRST-QUARTER-2020-CONFERENCE-CALL.html

http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/05/04/2027007/0/en/RESEARCH-FRONTIERS-TO-HOST-FIRST-QUARTER-2020-CONFERENCE-CALL.html

http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/05/04/2027007/0/en/RESEARCH-FRONTIERS-TO-HOST-FIRST-QUARTER-2020-CONFERENCE-CALL.html

is SPY worth investing in? Is it just shitty r/wallstreetbets meme?

What a boring crab day. Anybody who is celebrating today is doing so early and clearly some robinhood poorfag.

>>18936236
Is this image supposed to promote piracy?

>>18936199
>>18936238
Yes, as in it opened at 287.75 and closed at 287.68. Flat. The only movements that seem to stick are done without retail involved, outside of normal market hours.

>>18936212
I like the direction, but too much effort. 4/10

>>18935835
get the fuck off this site... i bet you unironically try to shill stocks here to save your 80$ in a stock .. disgusting go get a job and come back in a year when you have money to invest

>>18936286
SPY and Russell are the only indexes worth a shit

>>18936288
kek this is me

>>18936048
That shit is going to $120 before EOY.

>>18936304
If you buy 25k of any stock in this market you’re a retard. Even intraday you should DCA, fundamentals do not matter. We are gambling.

Why is RTX down? They have massive defense contracts and the world is becoming massively unstable right now.

FUCK
ARE YOU SICK OF ME COMPLAINING ABOUT MISSING DEXCOM YET???

THEYRE ADDING IT TO THE INDICES WHAT A FUCKING BEAST!!

Doubled since the corona crash... damn.

>>18936236
>work buy side desk at jpm
Took me forever to realize this meant buy-side, and not that your employer bought you some sort of side-desk. I’m retarded.

Very cool bro. Can you tell me what the next dexcom is? I think I’m late to the party.

Are you concerned about your job security or think this crisis has played out and your industry is safe? Worth trying to get into?

>>18936180
>>18936156
You'll be up in the... Credit Suisse studio :o
I really feel like I need to buy, I'm over 50% cash now, but wtf do I buy? I can see big downside on every single thing I look at, tech growth AND value all seem overbot >_<

>>18936333
I’m holding June and Oct $120 calls, they were pretty cheap today. I think WM will surge pretty soon, especially if there’s no issues with everything reopening

>>18936288
Crab days mean delicious Theta.

>>18936357
>Why is RTX down?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THAT'S MY QUESTION FOR A WEEK ALREADY

>>18936357
I'd put the chance that somebody gets bombed before the next election at 50/50/

>>18936304
>get the fuck off this site... i bet you unironically try to shill stocks here to save your 80$ in a stock .. disgusting go get a job and come back in a year when you have money to invest
Here’s your (you)!

>>18936187
AI vehicles will never be a thing. part of how these companies work - uber, lyft, truckers, pizza franchises - is by shifting all liability to the drivers. its cheaper and safer for them to have humans, because humans can be blamed
Also, there's plenty of other problems with AI vehicles. They drive the speed limit, for starters

>>18935956
I know this is bait most of these people are degenerate gamblers therefore reading FS is irrelevant to them since they aren't investing

Btw right now all that matters for real investing is if the company has enough cash to survive this shit show, earnings don't matter

>>18936400
based and regulatory/insurance pilled
t. P&C insurance

>NET up 18% today
>immediately plummets in futures

>>18936385
I've answered that question every day but you continue to ignore me.

ITS BEEN 2 MONTHS SINCE I LOST WORK AND I STILL HAVENT GOT MY UNEMPLOYMENT BECAUSE OF THESE PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING DEMOCRATS FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT FUCK DEMS FUCK LIBS FUCK SCHUMER FUCK PELOSI I JUST WANT MY UNEMPLOYMENT I HOPE TRUMP STEPS ON ALL THEIR HEADS AND DUNKS THE NEXT STIMULUS PACKAGE STRAIGHT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LIKE HE WANTED TO ORIGINALLY FUCK THESE PIECE OF SHIT DEMOCRATS THEY ARE TRYING TO INTENTIONALLY HURT US BECAUSE THEY THINK IT WILL MAKE US MAD AT TRUMP WELL ITS BACKFIRING ON THEIR STUPID RETARD ASSES I VOTED DEMOCRAT BEFORE BUT I WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN THEY ARE LITERAL TRAITORS AND I SEE THAT NOW THEY ARE PURPOSEFULLY SUBVERTING AMERICA JUST FOR THEIR LUST FOR POWER GREEDY MOTHERFUCKING SHITBAGS LITERALLY GIVING MY TAX DOLLARS TO ILLEGALS BUT CANT BE ASSED TO GIVE ME SOME FUCKING MONEY FOR RENT FUCK THIESE PIECES OF SHIT SO HARD I HAVE NO WAY TO PAY JUNE RENT I ALREADY USED ALL SAVINGS ON APRIL AND MAY I WILL LITERALLY BECOME A 24/7 INTERNET SHILL FOR REPUBLICANS NOW BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO AND NO MONEY TO MAKE

WHERE IS THAT LOSER TRIPFAG?
>inb4 rent free

>>18936385
I'm starting to think I should sell my RTX shares...

>>18936378
There's nothing wrong with staying in cash and being safe when everything is either overvalued or at risk to fall when the overvalued stocks drop and bring the rest of the indices lower.

>>18936385
>>18936357
It’s been explained thoroughly.
Listen to the earnings call and analyst feedback if you want to know. Watch the CEO’s interview from this morning on squawk and read between the lines.

Or read this article and guess why they would use unclear accounting measures like this.

Earnings call starting soon
y'all niggas will be too late, I warned ya

>>18936385
>>18936357
i swear you must be be a nigger or irish its a cyclical stock and 51% of raytehon is commerial areo ... its going to rise and fall with the market ....

>>18936447
It's still great long term hold. Especially when Q2 earnings come out and they don't tank like every other company.

>>18936447
FUCK YOU

effectively traded in my rtx for ko
im all in on boomer stock and hodl

>>18936385
>anime tranny shit pile goes down
Anime shitters put more work into their garbage avatars than their dd.
Remember that TRNX shill? He just always spammed "Buy trnx, buy trnx" and never made an argument why. But for some reason he a stash of anime trnx meme pics.
With anime trannies you lose.

>>18936475
Why would the Q2 earnings be good for Raytheon? Their CEO said this morning they expect it to be quite bad.

>>18936475
>Q2 earnings come out and show that half the company is practically defunct with no one to sell domestic airliner engines to
oh yeah im sure its going to get a lot better

>>18936498
rent free

>>18936465
die.

>>18936469
>nigger or irish
what's the difference?

maybe I don't understand them post merger. Raytheon itself was like 95% gov contracting before the merger. United Technologies was 30% gov.

Gov spending is counter cyclical so you would expect them to limp along on gov contracts alone until aviation picks up in a few years.

>>18936527
Nope, just the truth.

>entire day's rally happens at 3 am
>crabs
>SEE HUMAN? NORMAL MARKET! Please buy

>>18936378
FDP is ready for another /chop/

>>18936212

I'ma laugh when SPY is killed tomorrow and it's red. I'm going to come into this thread and post GLOWNIGGERS BTFO! Then talk about how my gains are through the fucking roof.

>>18936536
>hating money

>>18936008
nice

>>18935721
I just sold over 120 shares of Ecolab that I've been accumulating since 2017. Made a nice 4k profit on it. Needless to say I'm happy.

>>18936378
Hell of a picute.

That’s almost exactly how I feel, and these buys feel awful to make. But there is a real argument to be made that, since the government won’t tolerate a second shutdown even if deaths spike big, the worst is right now and things will get better in the future.

And some other stuff, Mike Wilson at MS has convinced me to be a lot more open minded about the bottom being in, but he also says he wouldn’t be surprised for another pullback/correction that will make a better buying opportunity.

Based fahrkunst

>>18936469
Article didn't do it for me. I'll listen to the earnings call. It sounds like the company Raytheon merged with brought a bunch of balance sheet problems with it.

>>18936439
Canuck here
$4k: RECEIVED and promptly put in US economy
upcoming: $2k next week & $2k next month
meanwhile I'm finishing degree from home

>>18936292
Anon??? It opened 2834.38. Got out and take a good sun bath, you are too bearish.

Tomorrow bullish af

Daily reminder that tripfag is NOT a term of endearment. We hate you and you should unironically jump off a bridge

>>18936553
The thing about being a bear is confidence in your choice. We literally beat unemployment expectations again today and the "rally" happened at 3 am or so. It is a matter of time

Which one of you sold that large volume?

>>18936537
retard
https://www.rotorandwing.com/2019/06/10/raytheon-utc-aerospace-businesses-combine-74-billion-aerospace-defense-company/
>The company’s aircraft engines, which are sold through UTC’s Pratt & Whitney division, are used on Boeing and Airbus passenger planes. Raytheon and UTC are platform agnostic.
>Domestic business would represent about 55 percent of Raytheon’s sales and international around 45 percent. Sales are expected to be about 54 percent defense and 46 percent commercial.

>>18936607
Flat like my waifu

>>18936632
Take your meds, this first person plural shit is a sign that you're off them.

>>18935338
>llama blood is the cure
It's not worth it

>>18936634

What you’re not taking into account is people are optimistic by default, not to a fault. You’re betting against what was made to go higher and make people wealthier.

>>18936632
>We

>Take your meds, this first person plural shit is a sign that you're off them.

>>18936603
Lol. Maybe you should you should save that money for bribing the border guards? Considering Trudork will keep 2k a month UBI going indefinitely until Statist control is complete.

>>18935974
Slight bump

>>18936674
Using google for charts...dear god

>>18936550
ah so it seems, so it seems
>>18936583
The number of finance people absolutely furious about the P/E of not just tech but everything else is pretty wild, if we're thinking conventionally it'd be crazy to buy more here. I do believe the bottom is in though, I think we'd see strong buying long before we'd hit 230 again. I guess I'll wait until we get some red days or it really becomes clear we'll continue up regardless of what's happening on the ground, either is possible. Feel like a ton of people need to recalibrate their whole concept of how the market acts post fed actions.

>>18936725
Let me go pull up Schwab while I’m shitting yeah fuck off
>>18936735
Why do you have a named folder of this gay shit?

>>18936543
Kek, plz old Gil needs a new RAM stick

I feel bad for that DIS put anon

>>18936760
Yes.
not actually a folder :<

>>18936735
>phd quants and millionaire hedgies are wrong, but I, the racist anime retail investor know the direction of the market
Kill yourself

>>18936781

There was a guy last night raving that he was all in on PayPal puts too hope he’s alright

>>18936716
>Trudeau literally just made an executive order to ban the possession of over 1500 types of firearms with no vote or anything
How can he literally do that? I thought Canada was a free country, not a dictatorship

>>18936809
why would you think that?

>>18936716
I welcome 2k a month as I have scarcely ever made that much, was barely making half before Coronasama
Doomcasters will not sway me. I only hope our economy will have a place for me to use this diploma I'm getting paid to complete

>>18936607
SPY. This post >>18936165 specifically said SPY. Also, it's not bearish or bullish. They are numbers and observations. SPY opened at 287.75 and closed at 287.68, meaning for the third day in a row, all intraday gains were erased or lost, and only gains made outside of market hours had an impact.

>>18936688
>people
>rallies happen at midnight
I don't know what that anon is betting on, but with all of this crabbing, I don't think there's much optimism right now. The market hours movements that we're seeing don't appear to reflect much optimism. Cash is comfy when markets crab.

>>18935679
Can someone explain what "flow" means in this context?

I have no idea about stock traiding, will I gonna make it if I spend 100 bucks in stocks in every company in this list?

I had a dream about investing in target
>>18936792
I think he also had LYFT and UBER puts too

>>18936831
You need to do some research my man

>>18936831
If you're gonna trade like that you're better off going to your local casino and betting it all on red at a roulette table

>>18936790
We would see buying at 250 at least, would give us time to assess whether we'd continue down. It's possible, but seems unlikely.

>>18936831
No, that’s a retarded strategy.

>>18936870
I tried but everyone is trying to shill for diffrent stocks, and looking numbers from companies up is to difficult for me since im a brainlet

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>18936831

Wouldn’t be ideal but you’d be green. Buying is always a solid strategy you don’t lose money til you start messing with selling.

>>18936831
Yes, can’t lose. Good diversity

I miss her bros

>>18936926
That’s a man

>>18936893
MACD says we finna dump my nigga

>>18936926
>her

any burger here mind telling me if people over there take the virus seriously by wearing face masks and distancing themselves?

Fuckin uber pumping almost 3 bucks for no reason tomorrow is going to be out of control

>>18936836
I warned him uber/Lyft was gonna short squeeze

>>18936926
That's a reptile.

>>18936890
The casino is closed, that's why the market is doing so well nobody can bet on anything but the stock market and fantasy MMA with draft kings.

>>18936688
>made to go higher
what the actual fuck? The absolute DELUSION of bulls right now is frightening

>>18936142
non-meme answer is, once Uber gives us robot-car, it'd be like 3rd industrial revolution tier shit
>what is the biggest cost?
drivers commission
>who are the drivers?
Niggers, pajeets, arabs
>are they necessary and useful?
no

Now just imagine a balance sheet of McDonald's with tons orders of burgers, and the cost of preparation is nearly $0

BUY
EWZ
PUTS
>BUY
>EWZ
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EWZ
PUTS
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>EWZ
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EWZ
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>EWZ
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EWZ
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>EWZ
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EWZ
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>EWZ
>PUTS

>>18936501
All it would take is a few fiscal programs and 4 more years of Trump to guaruntee they get their pockets bursting with deals.

>>18936961
Yes there are people that look worried when they get close to you. -California

>>18936952
Which is why I'm holding my vertical put spreads. I don't like MACD as an indicator though lol, I just had it on there from 5min price action today. Volume profile is much more important

>>18935338
hahaha fake news this is getting pretty funny now.

>>18936961
Wild variation because Trump put a lot of his early reelection strategies into the economy. That and America has wildly variable or non-existent safety nets meant people couldn't pay any of their bills after a month.
It's been coopted by teams faggotry.

>>18936996
Stocks only go up retard

>>18937004
Why don’t you advertise this during market being opened? You damn shill

>>18937003
Uber doesn't have any car factories. Their end game lunch has literally been eaten by Tesla. And it's obvious that is what Tesla will do. Once they get cars going they will dump into the ridesharing industry with their cheapest models.
Uber has no future. They didn't even do anything but burn cash until this point. During the easiest time to be a tech unicorn ever.

>>18937012
>I’m smarter than Gerald Appel
bruh

NET to $60
I hope you bought at 20 like I did

>>18937028
Good job pushing a kike meme that is meant to ruin our understanding of value. You realize with this perma bull mindset they are making you psychological slaves

>>18937036
I’m too busy trading to post here during market hours, nigger.

>>18936735
The next days will be super critical
I feel bearish, am in a demibear position now
The headgehog i doodled on a piece of paper says the bottom is on 23.5.

finally funded a live trading account
any final tips before i go into the fire?

>>18937074
Let me know how much your calls make you FAGGOT

>>18937059
>falling for fake quotes

>>18937055
It's tanking in futures

Permabull = retard

Permabear = retard

Cash gang until below 280 or above 300 = genius

>>18936963
Everything is out of control. No one thinks this is a normal market

>>18937092
Don't second guess yourself

>>18937059
>mfw I read this post

>>18937093
>says to buy PUTS
Learn English or get the fuck off of my board pajeet

>>18935338
What llama stock do I buy?

>>18937126
Fellow /cash/bro here. How are you doing anon?

I'm only up on MRO which just cut its div. I'm really not sure about these DHT bags, bought at 8. That leaves DOW @ cost basis 34 and RTX @ cost basis 62. Yes, I know I'm retarded.

>>18935424
As long as you didn't sell, you'll probably recover in the next couple months. Oil is going to be rough until our economy reopens. I've been investing $1000/per week in airlines, cruise lines, amd casinos waiting for the recovery. They already almost all got bailed out, so they won't be going under. It's going to be a few months until I get any returns on them though

>>18937136
The 5 figure account retard bullniggers here think it’s normal lmao

>>18937141
thanks, if i see a good setup i take it no matter what. whats the plan tomorrow?

>>18936963
i think it did because LYFT reported yesterday and it was good

fucking spy is up like a buck in kikes only hours. shits fucking rigged. I hate this market.

>>18936961
I think there's probably too much variation to get a definitive answer. I'm in a small college town, so we have a lot of younger people: those involved with the university, professionals at the industrial/tech park or hospital, locals. Not as many retirees or elderly. About 50% of the people I see out in public wear masks. If I'm shopping, about half of those are also wearing gloves. The younger ones (very early 20's) are the ones that don't usually wear anything.

>>18937126
High IQ post.

>>18937192
Personally I'd stick to cash.

>>18936961
>people over there take the virus seriously
Some are; some aren't. In case /smg/ hadn't clued you in, we're basically short-sighted self-absorbed selfish-shitheads here. People who have felt or seen the impact of the disease are taking it seriously; people who haven't are little Londo Mollaris who want it all back the way it was.

>>18937169
Isn't a gap up on 0 volume that crabs good?

CNBC:
>MARKET BOTTOM IN?
>TOP TECHNICIAN TURNS BULLISH!

fucking sell

>>18936165
wow I wasn't paying attention to that. I'm up pretty well today. square up 9.5% roku up 7.8% and disney up 4.6%

>>18937165
>I've been investing $1000/per week in airlines, cruise lines, amd casinos waiting for the recovery
USFD
BUD
SIX
There I just gave you three tickers that will outperform cruise lines, airlines, and casinos and do it faster. Retail is not somehow more magically aware of a good deal. Polos are idiots that will just be bagholding for years.

WHERE'S THE PUMP MUMU?
WHERE'S THE PUMP MUMU?
WHERE'S THE PUMP MUMU?

>>18937281
Entirely standard market behavior.

>>18937298
I've heard it said that markets like these are a stock picker's friend, and an index investor's enemy. Seems apropos.

>>18935721
I got effed selling covered calls on Wayfair. Unless it falls 12%, I'm out about 33% of my account before earnings report.

The earnings report sucked, and then it went up 40%. Feels bad man :(

If it goes down while American retail can trade that means Americans want out of the market while non Americans want in
>Americans probably can better guess the state of their economy
Bearish

>>18937283
chill for now

Damn that Canadian dude 2 weeks ago wasn’t larping

Bought some WBT today, seems the next logical place there's room for recovery is restaurants.

>>18937352
what the hell is nasdaq doing? I can kind of follow S&P and DOW but Nasdaq is a mystery

>>18937352
Looks primed to dump by multiple different metrics lol

>>18937340
Jeez louise! You gotta be careful selling even covered calls, I usually just cut them off and eat the small loss if they go over ~5% negative. Bad luck on earnings though, it looks like you called what'd happen correctly

>>18937340
>covered calls
>losing money

Fucking how? Did you set a strike below your cost average?

>>18936400
big IQ play

>>18937386
It’s 99% Zoom at this point.

>>18937126
>>18937157

Imagine sitting on cash waiting for the perfect time to buy. Do you know how much your forfeiting? Your money is stagnating and time the single most valuable asset you have on your side is fleeting. Keep sitting on your nuts homie the perfect time was days ago

From Argentina newspaper Página/12. GILD mentioned. Translation mine.

>The cure for the pandemic and the interest of the drug labs
>THE BIG BUSINESS[/TRADE/SCAM] BEHIND CORONAVIRUS

>The announcement of the new retroviral from the Gilead company, called remdesivir, can be a new hope or a trap. The sickness creates a necessity, and a lab creates the remedy. But the history of the very same Gilead proves that this is not always so. The logic of the medicine market, which spins around the patent of the active component.

What the fuck did I just translate? Fucking brainlet journalists I swear to god. Reading the article now and commenting.

https://www.pagina12.com.ar/264458-el-negocio-que-puede-ser-el-coronavirus

>>18937302
He’s dead, Jim.

>>18937433
>Your money is stagnating and time the single most valuable asset you have on your side is fleeting. Keep sitting on your nuts homie the perfect time was days ago
reckless/10.

I'm still holding TVIX. 100% confident in this choice, unironically.

>>18937386
follow the sp500 but remember that the nasdaq leads because its tech weighted and tech is the best sector

>>18937401
desu no one knows. i dont have a long term short or long position. By what metrics do you see it dumping?

>>18936400
This is you right now.

>>18937302
I have like 225 USFD and it isn’t looking too hot right now dawg.

>>18937092
ive also started investing recently, so far what ive sorta seen or learned it that this market is fucking crazy and doing unexpected things constantly. personally ive been trying to make very conservative moves

>>18937414
I set it way, way above.
$155 / $160.
Stock was $120 going into earnings.
Just one of those black swans.

>>18937483
do you swing or day trade. large cap or small?

>>18937433
Well, half of my current assets are in physical gold and I only started working full time 1.5 years ago. I also shoved in 15k into my 401k. I wanted to have at least 5 digits in cash before I started but then this shit happened.

>>18937302
I'll look into those. I'm not some 20 year old zoom zoom anymore, so I'm more wary of /biz/ advice

MVIS tryna pump lol

>>18937516
You sold a covered call at a higher strike than your cost basis, how did you lose money?

>>18937472
I think the dow is the one to watch right now, desu. It's putzing around on the 200 Weekly MA. S&P has definitely given clearer signals for me.

>>18937460
Nevermind it's a fucking "boo-hoo medicine should be cheap article".

>>18937519
Based. If your employer contributes a 5% match to your 401k, there's pretty much no way you can lose outside of an actual boogaloo. Invest in silver if you haven't already though

can someone post the earnings chart for this week

>>18937537
I think he’s just talking about his unrealized gains. Shiny green number makes him regret hedging risk

>>18937567
>precious metals
Lmao

>>18937478
thats not what he is saying you dumb nigger.

>>18937482
My point is that USFD, SIX, and BUD are "upper bounds" on where cruise lines, airlines, and casinos can go. "Back to normal" will mean USFD is supplying restaurants, schools, businesses, government, etc. Six is low budget family outings during the summer when people might be more wary to spend money. BUD is a good pseudo indicator of disposable income for middle range consumer market.
Cruise lines and casinos are luxury markets. Airlines are loaded with debt and demand issues. They cannot improve unless the first 3 do first.

>>18937537
Sorry, used the wrong term. I meant credit spread.

>>18937433
Buy now, with much less upside potential than back in March, and much more downside risk due to economic uncertainty? Someone who goes long on this, if it's the top and we drop back down again, may have to wait years before breaking even. That has historically happened several times in the past. The minimal upside is not worth the risk, even with a long time horizon. Better to get more economic clarity first, or just admit that you're gambling with trading and go nuts.

>>18937472
Momentum, volume, moving averages, and price action/market hours behavior all seem to indicate that a drop is coming. The only thing that's solidly keeping us afloat right now are the upswings outside of market hours.

MVIS is kill

F

>>18936465
Wow, amazing rally for SNSS

>>18937622
>The only thing that's solidly keeping us afloat right now are the upswings outside of market hours.
>inb4 a friday EOD pump
I think the recovery horizon we're looking at...
>zooms out
could be something like 10 years+ lmao holy shit.

>>18937672
hey don't be mean

>MIVS

KEK

>>18937586
Gold is stable as fuck. Been hovering around 1700 consistently during this whole shitstorm.
>>18937567
I do also have some silver, about 100oz, but I'm going to focus more on gold.

>>18937672
it is still up over 300% on the year asshole stay poor idiot. I bought at 1.05 and have no doubt it will be above that again soon.

>>18937732
>>18937732
>>18937732
new

>>18937636
Everyone had a second chance to get out at $1.00 today. Anyone who was too retarded to sell deserves what they get

>>18937672
Kek

I shouldnt have sold NET, bruhs...

>>18937302
Bud isnt a very well run company at the moment, STZ is better

>>18937722
You're already set then. Good luck to you anon

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stampscom-stock-plunges-11-after-earnings-and-revenue-beat-2020-05-07

This is some bull shit. Good news is bad, bad news is good. I might as well screen the russel 2k for the most debt ridden about to file bankruptcy companies and just buy that shit.

>>18937611
Oh. You are thoroughly BTFO then.

>>18937790
You too anon.

>>18937517
mostly bought into oil companies, ones that have in the past shown largely consistent performance over a long period of time, production and pipelines

things like; MUR, CEQP, NBLX, OKE
my thinking was that these companies should eventually start rising in price again, more long term plays over months

>>18935956
I work in private equity and examine financial statements all day. Fundamental analysis is broken, all that matters is public perception of future growth. Look at TSLA and ZM, the market is a completely joke.

>>18937815
stamps.com helps facilitate a huge amount of drug traffic, fun factoid for you

>>18937889
How? Out of curiousity.

>>18938130
Stamps. You cut out a lot of middlemen by using the postal service to move your drugs.

>>18938388
Don't the screen for shit like that?

>>18938575
1.That's illegal
2. That's impossible

>>18937529
>tryna
Go back to r3ddit nigger

>>18938631
The more you know™. Thanks.

>>18937050
What matters is software not hardware.
It's like Microsoft and Google vs IBM and HP. Factories doesn't matter
Although Tesla is also leading the software development