/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18875983
10000x hardly
1000x definitely

1000x easy-
richard heart is a fucking madman and than he hs trevon james on his team
this thing will get bigger than bitconnect

gethex.fun and have fun

strong buy

>>18876012
Never say never my friend. People are just starting to realize what this coin is all about. This is what everyone came to crypto for.

scam

>>18875983
who else is having fun. i am earning H E X on each transaction at funhex.win/richard

>>18876012
X1000 would mean about a trillion in marketcap. 150.000.000 supply. Ummm, I don't think so sweaty.

>>18876243
he means from the bottom
1000x is only 11x from todays ath

>>18876232
>>18876130
Why do you guys type like this? Is it some kind of inside meme or false flagging? I want to invest more but you are weirding me out.

Ponzi scam.

>>18875983
Buy goy buy goy buy

Truly the /biz/ way. Buy the shitcoin after it already mooned x100. This one is a strong buy guys.

>>18876243
Hex gets burned and taken out of supply when you stake. So eventually the more people stake the less the circulating supply will be

>>18876291
because this asshole is using a redirect link to make a referral bonus from you (or trying to)
he just tacked on the "fun" bit, and retards are giving him 20% commission on their bags.
bypass his ass, and get HEX straight from Uniswap for cheaper

>>18876291
Non weird Hex guy here.
Project aside, you have two very distinct classes of Hex investor now.

1. People who are intellectually curious and capable enough to understand that the project has everything a decentralised project should have, and do not base investment decisions on what the youtube "analyst community" says. I've actually noticed that a lot of 'us' guys come from a programming background, maybe it has given us a slight edge over the normal investor in terms of spotting what's actually decentralised and what isn't. This class is full people building stuff like hex.live, uniswap.hex.vision, hexinfo.io, and a myriad of other tools.

2. Grug brains who have fallen for the get rich quick marketing, and are shilling the F out of the referral system. Richard has been up front about this, he said he wanted Hex to be a finished product with a solid technical base honoring true decentralisation (which it is), but with a covering of scam marketing and talk of gains as this is what appeals to Joe Soap in the streets and has by far onboarded the most amount of people since the 2017 top. Hell, even the 2017 top was caused mostly by people wanting to get rich.

>>18875983
What is this?

>>18876401

>>18876530
Hex- its a "new" crypto project by richard Heart

gethex.fun for more Info

>>18876530
dont fucking go, its a fucking pajeet coin and they are in it so they are shilling it

>>18877375
Oh my God! Someone is shilling their bags? Wtf???? That's unheard of here at biz.

>>18876530
hex go brrrrrr

>>18877375
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT TALK ABOUT THE BEST PERFORMING CRYPTO ON THE CRYPTO BOARD SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM BUY LINK

>>18877429
I can smell the seething through the monitor screen one of these mongrels posts scaaaaam. Not our fault you fell for the fud bitches. Now you get to sit on the sidelines

Richard Heart is Donald Trump of cryptos. Hate him all you want, neither him nor HEX does not give a flying fuck. HEX is amazing and Richard has destroyed every single bitcoin fanboy who has had balls trying to debate him.

scam

>>18876401
very well put

t. guy coming from a programming background

>>18877511
>HEX is amazing and Richard has destroyed every single bitcoin fanboy who has had balls trying to debate him.
Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency of all time.

>>18875983
fuck off, it's a scam about to die soon

So I bought hex, once it’s transformed do I stake it or just leave it? I couldn’t figure out what biz would do

>>18878604
>what biz would do
Biz doesn't buy scams.

Oh look its the next pajeet pnd.

>>18878616
Biz buys high and sells low. Doesn’t seem to be an option to do that yet. So what’s my next plan B?

>>18875983
Scammers united

I can't wait for this shit to collapse vertically and laugh at all the losers that bought the top.

>>18876312
every time

>>18878652
Could you try and hold your breath for it maybe?

>>18878604
If you speculate longer term, you stake. If you speculate short term, you don't.

I think staking for at least a year makes the most sense right now, since only then you'll get the various bonuses that are only available during the launch phase right now. Unless you think this thing will have dumped to the ground a year from now.

>>18878634
You lost money with hex. There is no plan b for (you).

Hahaha as if they would init all phases. Focus ch.

>>18878727
You do see that it's in an ath?
You really need to actually be a master class retard like yourself to have successfully lost money in it

>>18878604
Stake it fool the whole point is to make interest on your crypto investment instead of having it just sit there. You can also qualify for bigpayday if you stake for more than a year

>>18878777
>successfully lost money in it
>give Richard ethereum
>didn't lose money
Okay dumb ass

>>18875983
Literally every post is about how this will moon...No one actually talks about what this shit does...It's a road that starts nowhere and goes to nowhere and is full of autistic little losers screaming about how rich they will be when everyone starts using it...Except no one ever will. It is the scammiest most degenerate piece of shit I have ever seen shilled on biz. And fucking hell, that is saying something. Every post is just about huh huh you missed out. This will go 1000x....It won't. You won't get rich, this will have all been for nothing

>>18878838
My eth is worth 70 time then it used to you actual subhuman garbage

>>18878935
This, can the jannies delete all hex threads, they are being spammed hard.

>>18878935
>No one actually talks about what this shit does
Here, I'll tell you: it stores value. Like, you know, bitcoin or gold.

>>18876401

From my observation there are two kinds of people in the HEX community. There are higher the IQ anons like you and me who have an interest in programming, maths and science. We are typically the people who have a greater understanding of the code. People like us are needes for driving innovation forward in the HEX community.

Then there's the people who have around 80 IQ. They think they know what they're talking about because they've fallen victim of Dunning Kruger. The purpose of these people is to driven economic energy forward. Bitconnect actually got attention from Pewdiepie and H3H3. Richard understands this, hence the marketing. Knightly Crypto was a Bitconnect shiller back in 2017 and recently join HEX, although he panic sold. He contributed a whopping 60m HEX in emergency end-stakes to everyone else. We also have Trevon james shilling HEX. Things couldn't be better marketing wise. All marketing after all is good marketing. Why else would BSV be a top 10 crypto?

The people in the middle with 100 IQ are left behind because they are still too dumb to comprehend the audits by Coinfabrik. They will buy in though once their influencer of choice starts shilling it.

>>18875983
I did the math, crunched the numbers, and it's actually 10^9999999999x (yes thats ten 9's!!)...

>>18879507
We'll just stay with bitcoin.

Uhhhh guyz is thos a scam?? Durrr durrr

>>18879520
tl;dr

>>18879581
Enjoy having 0.001 of what you could have

Fuck it, I am going to steak it. How long should I steak it for? I usually prefer it medium rare but am happy with rare

>>18876261
so you shilling us a coin, token, pixels on a monitor, snakeoil that did 9000% in the past 2 weeks. yeah i will hold your bags.

>>18878935
it stakes HEX

what is the problem to understand?

>>18879832
This
>>18879875
What's wrong, Richard? Fixing air conditioners not enough, for you?

>>18879507
It's closer to a bank CD, but bank CDs are in a currency that has stable demand, USD. If your bank made you buy Chuck E. Cheese tokens that they minted before you can buy into a CD, and the exchange rate between USD and arcade tokens is in constant flux, it defeats the point of the exercise. The point of a CD is that it has little risk, but demand for Hex could collapse while you're staked. Not great for anything other than speculation.

>>18878935
Is this a new pasta?

>>18880031
It's the truth.

>>18880002
>9 posts by this id

>>18880063

>>18877511
yes I think the Trump comparison is a good one. RH has weapons grade persuasion skills like Trump and is a genius marketer like Trump. Everyone laughed at Trump when he ran for president and said he didn't have chance, until he proved them all wrong. Even then, many people can't accept it. Only a few people were able to see Trump's victory coming early on. The anti-HEX hysteria reminds me a lot of Trump Derangement Syndrome, caused by peoples inability to confront their own wrong beliefs.

>>18875983
Ponzi at its best, what a irratonal clown market.

Srsly a fucking nighmare of a bubble, without any decent background.

Guys, i encourage you to research on anything thats shilled and get out as soon as you can, this is gonna end so fucking badly.

Good luck

>>18882249
like LINK, amirite? Like all the people who bought EOS at the ICO, right? like all the people who bought ETH during the pre-sale. They're all hurting now, right?

Nohexers just shout "scam! ponzi!" over and over without ever explaining how it's a scam or a ponzi. Probably because they can't, because it isn't either of those.

>>18882249
Ohhh I get it, it's a ponzi cuz if you got in early u made mad gains..
So exactly like bitcoin then

>>18881309
RDS for new meme?

If you want free 10% hex you have to visit Richards site at GetYourHex.win

Then go to go.hex.win to join the lobby.

Just hit ATH

>>18882767
>/biz/

>>18882325
>>18882459
well there hasn't been a single real correction. ethereum, bitcoin and link had a bunch of dips on their way to parabolic heights. this is going to dump eventually frens

>>18882895
Everything dumps everntually, It would just go up much higher than you think before it does that anon.

ZCN is the next moon coin anon, read the fundamentals and tell me otherwise

>>18882915
it's at a $1billion market cap. how much higher are you expecting is reasonable before a dip?

>>18882915
btw I made money off this. but i sold and locked in profits. ithi

>>18882950
we're still in the launch phase. a lot of people are just starting to get clued in. also the coin has an anti-dump design due to staking.

>>18882950
Much more than that

>>18882990
75% of the coins are unstaked man. it'll only take a few whales to crush the price

>>18882981
Same?

>>18882994
yeah, i think you're wrong. the whales now are people with 30-40million stacks. this was worth like $1,000 two-three months ago. ie, the hex whales are poor idiots who are lucky. they are going to dump.

Give up, it’s over Richard. No one wants your scam.

>>18883006
we keep reaching new ATH every day, so clearly those whales think there's more upside. Just cuz only 25% is staked now doesn't mean it'll keep looking like that. The fewer stakes there are when you start your stake, the higher the interest you get, not to mention BPD bonuses are only paid to stakers. The incentive to stake sooner than later is high.

>>18883102
Lol it actually seems like a lot of people want it anon

>>18883081
i'd argue the hex whales are smart, ignored all the people shouting "scam" and actually listened to Richard's arguments for HEX and saw they made sense. There's no luck involved. It's not an accident HEX is top 20 crypto after 5 months of existence.

>>18882249
Come on ! give it to HEX , we know you want it !! ;)

>>18883081
I don't disagree that the larger holders will eventually dump, but a couple factors that will keep the hex price rising are the AA lobby selling less and less hex each day, coupled with the bonuses collected by emergency unstaking. The price will probably rise until the BGP, beyond that I don't know.

>>18883173
>top 20 crypto
It's only because of wash trading, and it's only listed on CoinPaprika.

>>18883132
i think it's way overdue for a correction. there will 90% for sure be a dip later today on uniswap. right now, there is a gap in price between AA and uniswap. right now the AA pool is 36% cheaper. the price is going to drop around 36% today to meet up with that. i don't expect AA to gain 36% eth in the next 8 hours before lobby close. there was a thread on /biz/ when this happened a week or so ago and this happened
https://hex.live/hex

>>18883243
But that's not true?

>>18883243

>>18883266
wrong again, idiot. price diff is because you can get a 30% bonus in the AA by self-referring. Uniswap price factors that in.

>>18883298
no, you can only at max get a 20% bonus and that's if you use your own referral link. usually people only get 10% bonuses by clicking other links, and there is a 10% gap in price. 30% price difference is unusual. perhaps a 35% drop in price is wrong, and it'll be closer to 25%. there will be a drop though, guaranteed. screencap this

>>18880030
I actually agree with this. As I said: it's just like bitcoin/gold. Both of which are 99% useless expect as a speculative store of value.

>CDs are in a currency that has stable demand, USD
Remains to be seen how stable exactly once the fed brrrrs up USDs by the trillions in the coming year. Maybe a Chuck E. Cheese token with a hardcoded inflation rate that is manageable and even tradeable with a simple browser plugin starts looking attractive.

>>18883266
this happens every day, then the prices converge

>please unlock metamask to use HEX

There is a 'add to metamask' button which brings up the Brave wallet window. Help?

>>18883854
Use metamask

Every one of these hex threads feels the same. There’s always someone calling multiple people Richard. A random pajeet in the background. Someone talking about “””big pay day”””.

>>18883854
Brave doesn't work well with Metamask in my experience. But you don't actually need it, you can just use Brave's "Crypto Wallets" feature, it's pretty much the same.

Or use any other browser with Metamask, if you prefer.

>>18883897
I downloaded metamask and it's in my browser ext

>>18883932
Thanks
Will try brave wallet

>>18875983
nooooo you cant just do another heckin all time higherino today!!!!! they told me it was a scam! i watched Richards livestream yesterday and there is literally nothing anybody can say about it to prove its a scam but...but it just is!!!!

>>18883692
The value of what you get out still ultimately hinges on the valuation of Hex, but with the added lack of liquidity that comes with staking. I'm not saying that you can't make money, but there's certainly risk involved, unlike what some shills on this board might say. I prefer to take risks in something with more liquidity. I hope it works out for you, though. Seems like an interesting concept, at least.

>>18883368
you get 10% for being referred + 20% for referring, for total 30% for self-referrals. You can't compare current AA price against Uniswap price because there's still 7 hours left in today's AA.

>>18883997
use metamask fool. then stake at go.hex.win

>>18884225
/biz is now a hex only board. all your thread are belong to us. we the whales now

>>18884198
regardless of the bonus, the AA per eth is still higher on AA than uniswap. so that + bonus it's still a better deal on AA right now. people are going to sell on uniswap and arbitrage on AA. i know the lobby still has 7 hours left, but it's barely moving. watch it. this literally happened a week or so ago and the price dumped. people sell on uniswap >> get cheaper hex on AA = price dumps.

Is there any benefit of staking 15 years vs 10 years? Seems like you won't get extra bonuses after 10.

What's the difference between Bitconnect and Hex?

>>18885412
People who bought bitconnect didn't know to cash out BEFORE the dump

>>18885412
Bitconnect was a ponzi promising returns in USD that were unsustainable. Hex is a time deposit on the blockchain where the smart contract will always give you the hex that you are owed. No counterparties involved.

>>18885265
yes, no bonuses after 10 years. Only advantage is you can lock in a higher interest rate by staking earlier. If you stake 5 years from now, stake % will probably be higher and so interest lower.

>>18885412
bitconnect was a ponzi that made promises it couldn't keep. hex isn't a ponzi and doesn't make any promises it can't keep.

>>18885412
bitconnect was a centralized website

HEX you can sell anytime on Uniswap without even using the frontend

>>18876312
yes, keep saying every ATH of hex is the last ATH. It sure worked fine the last 88x times, right?
poorfag mentality

>>18878652
Don't hold your breath, lmao
At the next stop you'll be so left behind you'll look like an ant on the ground

Is 10x from here realistic? Probably not but fuck this I'm in baby, let's ride this to 0 or to THE MOOOOOONNN

>>18878935
What does bitcoin do, then? You see people on biz talking about the usecase of bitcoin?
Didn't think so

>>18885768
>What does bitcoin do
Bitcoin isn't a erc20 scam.

>>18885752
yes, definitely. this is going to be a top 10 coin before you know it. It's reached top 20 without any major exchange support & lots of angry people shouting "scam!" at Richard nonstop. think what it's going to do when people start to come around & realize that no it's not a scam.

It's still launch period, so you can get BigPayDay bonuses which can be > 100% of what you staked. Gone after the first year. You can double your stack just by staking through the end of this year.

so no, not too late at all.

>>18885833
I see, zero arguments.
What a dumbass.

>>18885752
honestly it will pull back and test half a cent I think

never buy on a day when something gained 25%

>>18878935
It's very simple anon. Time deposit on the blockchain. You stake your hex, you get to collect inflation in hex and various bonuses/penalties. People like staking and the game theory behind it so they get involved.

Guess what? Nothing is stopping from hex being used as a currency also. You can send hex to someone in exchange for goodsor sevices. Integrate it in your website frontend. You can use it in anyway people use Bitcoin but with an added benefit of staking.

Oh guess what again? It's an erc-20 meaning that it is actually programmable money. You can build dapps that utilize hex or plug hex into existing dapps creating unique utility and use cases.

What else do you need from your crypto, anon? It can't massage your dick yet, that's true.

>>18885833
so what? The advantage of being ERC20 is interoperability with all the other Ethereum shit. You can use decentralized finance and exchange on Uniswap for instance. Can't do that with BTC. Have to use custodial exchanges who KYC you out the ass and pray that they give you your money. Can't develop shit on Bitcoin which is why nothing has been built on it. Ethereum has way better throughput than Bitcoin, better code base, more developers, more tech innovations implemented at a faster pace. having your own separate incompatible blockchain is not an advantage.

>>18885903
To late, already staking ayii

It feels like the next bitconnect, and people who went in made huge gains. Just need to time it right and get out before liquidity dries out

>>18886023
Not so sure that'll happen, if people are up big already and can compound more hex why wouldn't they? People will of course take profits, but if this promises passive income wouldn't that incentive early adopters more?

>>18885563
>hex isn't a ponzi and doesn't make any promises it can't keep.

https://forkdelta.app/#!/trade/0xd70156e803a252f1345d1adbee1d565f56885bf6-ETH

>>18886106
>https://forkdelta.app/#!/trade/0xd70156e803a252f1345d1adbee1d565f56885bf6-ETH
fake news

is the real 0x2b591e99afe9f32eaa6214f7b7629768c40eeb39

>>18886095
Lol you don't even know what a ponzi scheme is don't you?

>>18886163
That fat guy wears watches on both of his wrists.

>>18883904
Yes. The only thing that changes is the new ATH.

>>18886193
Yeah he does, and he wears jewelry like a fag and he has titties, and he came up with the one of the most brilliant cryptos ever in history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c9Dd5cHFA4

>>18886422
Clever use of psychology by Richard. By explaining how to identify and counter scams, he distances himself from them. This is a very successful strategy for many observers including those who follow him - "how can he be a scammer when he works so hard to defeat them". Secondly, he correctly states that he gives everything away for free. In many of his previous interviews, he demands "show me a site or an address or email where I can accept anyone's money". This has been true for all of the time I have been following him - until now. Now, he is taking real ETH from people in exchange for a coin that has almost zero value on the exchanges. And the address where he accepts this money is a public store of ETH identified here by his former developer. He will claim that the HEX coins will have value in the future but the distribution system (game theory) built into HEX will prevent true price discovery for a year during which time, that address owned by him will be filled daily with new ETH from hopeful contributors. Although he may continue to give away other valuable things for free, HEX is not among them. If he can use that money to promote the price of HEX anywhere above the effective price set by the initial ETH transforms (currently around $.005 per HEX), then he will be seen as a crypto genius with the hottest new coin. If he does not, or worse does nothing, then all of the good will and reputation he has earned over the last few years will disappear along with all the hope from the ETH "contributors".

>>18875983
First you have to understand, it does nothing. Its not a CD in the normal way. You dont have to stake or can end your stake early with a penalty, which doesnt actually matter if you are ahead in gains. Only 25% are locked, so people just wait on the sidelines to dump at their will. For a CD to be successful (at least in crypto cause high volatility), either you must be obligated to stake or the "end stake early" shouldnt be there. It lives and dies of people fomoing in. Its a ponzi, without the "running out of money" part. Uniswap helps a lot cause liquidity pools never dry up, as richard funnels the eth from AA back into the liquidity pool. by the time the AA runs out, the network effect should be huge enough to sustain future gains. if not, it will collapse at least on the big pay day as everyone and their mum will cash out their 100x , so you better sell it before then.

>>18886442
>First you have to understand, it does nothing
Just like Richard himself.

>>18886091
It's theoretical, it's obvious every ponzi collapses. Just like proof of weak hands 3d, which theoretically should go forever too.

>>18886091
There will be ebbs and flows just like with any crypto value. I do think the underlying mechanism is sticky and will keep people coming back.

>>18886915
Not a ponzi. Smart contract doesn't take anything from new investors to give to the old. It just pays out overall inflation to stakeholders.

>>18886095
What promises does it make? The x10000 thing is not a promise. Just marketing speak. It was designed to appreciate in value because of underlying mechanics. So far it has. Doesn't mean it's guaranteed. You will always get what you are owed in hex. USD value will fluctuate like with any other crypto

>>18887094
>What promises does it make?
You can't promise no promises. Since that's a promise.

>>18878935

this...

>> they don't know Richard is recycling the ETH back into HEX contracts

this will be interesting where things end up.

>>18887025

yes it pays out in useless shittoken.

>>18887525
are you stupid nigger? Sergey make the same

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/f10pll/richard_heart_is_blatantly_recycling_the_eth/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=CryptoCurrency&utm_content=t1_fh49ki9

>>18887025
Why the fuck would you want a coin that just inflates itself and has no other utility?

Stop spamming biz

>>18887568

stupid niggger.

go to richardheart.win ... bybit is recycling to pump the price u dumb nigger. hope you desperate faggots for fast gains all get fucked.

>>18887654
stop spamming elton

>>18887654
Its a bot that goes into a fund to release fees.

Just like a bank CD

niggas tryin to fud

>>18887025
Anon please, I participated in many ponzi/pyramid/hourglass/delays/revshares call it however you want it's the same thing. In the end everyone wants to cash out to other crypto, that's it. Mind-blowing right? There's always incentive to make stupid, greedy people left behind until smart people cash out in the right moment. This is no different.

>>18887757

LMAO dumb nigger. look at where the ETH is going you stupid dumb nigger.

all the ETH is being flushed from that account. this has nothing to do with fund releasing fees.


the absolute state.

>>18887799
You have no proof who it actually is

Sellers can turn around buy too

Dumb fucknuts

>>18887869
Stop spamming biz

>>18887654
>>18887799

stop spamming elton

>>18887774
Okay smart guy lets see what happens in a year. Your mistake is writing off as "just like every other ponzi". If you're not regretting it already you will later

>>18887907
>Stop spamming biz

Stop spamming the stop spamming message

>>18887548
nice try nigger
https://pastebin.com/vgcC2aAB

>>18887980
Stop spamming biz

>>18887654

Lol check out this faggot. Coping levels absolutely exploding right now

>>18888009
stop spamming elton

>>18888009
>>18888057
>Stop spamming biz

Stop spamming the stop spamming message

>>18887654
Why all the HATE anon ? shouldn't care about what people do with their money.

>Banks don't recycle money

Imagine believing that.

>>18888054

yeah just ignore the onchain evidence that this shit is a blatant scam.

>>18888269

i'm so sick of this shill posts. smells like cringe curry. fucking pajeets.

>>18888374


LOL nice STRAWMAN ARGUEMENT FAGGOT

that's all you faggots do is strawman argue.
and pat yourselfs on the back and ignore the blatant on chain evidence that this is scam

>>18887869

https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/f10pll/richard_heart_is_blatantly_recycling_the_eth/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=CryptoCurrency&utm_content=t1_fh49ki9

you couldn't be more fucking retarded. i swear

here's your proof since you morns like to be spoon fed. its all the traceable on chain

>>18888409
>>18888431
youre a nigger. its not a security and he can washtrade all he wants. hes so based that hes recycling the ETH to inflate the price. its just to get this launched after BPD. hes obviously not going to dump. these are all just BASED failsafes in case someone tries some funny business.

>>18888483
It links to the same dumb jpeg you posted here faggot lol jesus this cope is unreal

You uncovered that addresses send eth to other addresses that buy hex? Okay. Thats what ethereum network is for. Transactions. What's your evidence this is all the same person?

>>18888508

the absolute state and delusion. if they do end up tying to originators address to richard it will be deemed a security..

this faggot richard pretends he doesnt even know who owns it... "could be an african priest" "you're not suppose to know that"

lmao and you morons are investing in this guy

fyi plausible deniability doesnt absolve your for securities fraud.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzEcUPkHUQ&t=390s

>>18888561

yeah but where is all the ETH going?? ask your self that. youre such a dumb low iq nigger why are u even still talking

https://www.sec.gov/tcr

please report this scam to the sec for being an unregistered security thanks

>>18888639
Who gives a fuck? Once you part with it it no longer a concern

>>18888613
HEX is not security anon

>>18888702

the people who actually give a fuck are the people who are sick of these smelly curry pajeets shitting and stinking up the 4chan boards and getting newbies to buy their bags.

seriously fuck off.

>>18888665
HEX is not a security anon, get your definitions straighten'd up . The absolute state .

>>18888811
>someone buy my LINK bags NAO

>>18888811
Come on!!, I know you want to join us ! Give it to HEX , we know you want it !!

>>18888800

it technically is a security.. since you guys are getting rich off what richard is doing and that's eth recycling which is all there on chain see for yourself..

>>18888864
Yes it is.

>>18888925

another fucking dumbass with their STRAW MAN ARGUMENT

third one already.

neck yourself faggot

>>18888811
Oh I assume the shitcoin bags you hold are all pristine tokens with real value? Gtfo faggot. People are in crypto for gains. Not to masturbate over some esoteric tech, fake partnership and roadmaps. Get real or stay poor

>>18888979
Again, Technicalities form not role in the definition of a security.

>>18889049

another straw man argument..

>>doesnt know some people have been in bitcoin since 2011

take those strawman arguements and shove them up your ass. you're not refuting shit. here.

seriously neck yourself.

>>18888800
>it's not a security because the website says so!!!!

ok

>>18889111
Nice

>>18889111
NOOOOOOOOO you cant just make money on a completed crypto project you have to have TECH and PARTNERSHIPS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>18880030

this. someone who gets it.

>>18889516
speculation? in MY crypto?!

>>18888483
Have you noticed how the second post in that Reddit thread pokes serious holes in the "analysis" pictured here >>18887654? Without the author ever replying? I have.

>>18875983
How do I stake this?

>>18889097
Did you enjoy that 85% BTC fall from 2017? *gasp* is bitcoin a ponzi scam?

>>18889845
https://go.hex.win/stake/

>>18889726
Right? Crypto is used for anything BUT speculation. We're all here just for the tech. I enjoy reading a white paper or two before bed

>>18889925
See
>>18890004

>>18888613
that video was pure retardation. he needs to actually listen to Richard's points and not a bunch of strawmen or questions that have already been answered in detail. the fact he's promoting some blockchain gaming crap at the end shows who the real scammer is.

>>18888979
1. It is an investment of money
2. There is an expectation of profits from the investment
3. The investment of money is in a common enterprise
4. Any profit comes from the efforts of a promoter or third party

there is no expectation of profit. There's no expectation of work from a 3rd party. Any profits come from my own effort (running the contract). Richard is totally clear on all of that stuff.

>>18887968
The fuck do you mean by this? I told you it's another ponzi pyramid that will collapse at some point. Of course I will ride it and already made great profit but you treat it like it's something special lmao

>>18890764
>no expectation of profit
the website literally says put your eth in hex and you will make money. how much is richard paying you to shill?

>>18891070
it literally does not say that. it shows you what Hex has done in the past, that 10000x gains are possible in crypto, and that Hex was designed to appreciate. Doesn't mean it will, just that it was designed to (and so far is in line with its designs)

there are zero promises or expectations, only what has happened and what could happen.

>>18891047
All crypto fell by 85-95% including BTC and ETH. It's all a "ponzi" by your definition then. People like buying shit and taking profits. Hex just has more incentives to stake and not sell than other coins. Don't know why this is such a hard concept for people to wrap their heads around

>>18891070
This, the shills are also in the YouTube comments of anything hex.

>>18891170
I'm getting kind of sick of it. I try to educate people and get them a piece of these mad gains but they just yell "scam!", "ponzi!" and won't fucking listen!

I kinda get it. there's so many scams in crypto people are conditioned to think everything is a scam. and hex looks like a scam, until you actually look at the details.

>>18891070
Designed to do x10000 is not the same as will do x10000

It's just marketing speak for "game theory mechanics in HEX incentivize holding as opposed to dumping which might be positive for price appreciation." Doing x10000 is not out of the real of possibility. Many coins did more than that. That's crypto for you.

>>18891272
No one is going to give you ethereum, you fat fuck.

>>18891314
Richard knows nothing of game theory.

>>18891336
whatever pal. your loss

>>18891402
Wash trading, go back to fixing air conditioners.

>>18891272
They'll come around eventually. Or maybe not. I don't really care. Everyone can do what they want. If they feel that holding their current bags is a better play than hex so be it. You can lead a horse to water but... Only thing that talks is the chart at the end of the day

>>18891456
>Only thing that talks is the chart
It says, wash trading.

>>18891402
coin goes up in crypto
>oh damn, it goes up, must be legid now
biz
ride the waves fags, no one cares what xyz shitcoin does. sell high, buy low. full stop

>>18891475
>2 posts by this id
Are you IP jumping, Richard?

richard is honestly skating on thin ice with his word games on the website. the SEC probably doesn't give a fuck that he used the word 'designed' and will throw him in federal fuck me in the ass prison anyway

>>18891272
>>18891456
Same fag, go away Richard, stop spamming biz with your wash trading scam.

WHAT WAS THAT

>>18891612
>1 post by this id
Okay Richard, you asked for it.

>>18891428
are you giving yourself advice? genuinely asking

>>18891541
yeah I'm sure Richard hasn't vetted any of this stuff with lawyers. He seems like a pretty dumb guy who just does things without any thought

>>18891541
>the SEC can extradite someone from a foreign country

>>18891471
He already has like 70 million dollars in ETH and that's not even halfway through the AA. The project is done, HEX runs without him. At this point I think he couldn't give a fuck about wash trading moron.

>>18891541
Well if he does than that's his problem. Why are you concerned about Richard all of a sudden? Richard can go to jail or spontaneously combust or whatever else and the contract will still be functioning as it was designed. He's not retarded so I'm sure he planned out all the contingencies you smart guys are thinking about.

>>18891632
Dumb fuck

>>18891612
Moon time baby fuark! Red dildo

>>18891666
>>the SEC can extradite someone from a foreign country
Yes, The Netherlands included.

>>18891697
>1 post by this id
How do you think he has about 70 million dollars in ETH? By wash trading of course, you dumb fat fuck.

>>18891763

Was ready to buy in until I read this thread, you guys need to alter your approach/marketing if you want to get fence sitters involved

This thread has 200 replies and not one did a good job of explaining the project

>>18891697
>I think he couldn't give a fuck about wash trading moron.
Of course he cares, that's how he places higher on coinpaprika, because uniswap doesn't care about wash trading. CoinMarketCap, knows not to trust uniswap.

>>18891814
I don't quite understand why /biz/ can't wrap its mind around this token, because it's so fucking simple.

It's certificate of deposit and financial instrument. You can send it and receive it. Just like bitcoin, except there's an actual product: you can lock up your coins for some period of time (akin to a CD). People who don't lock their coins pay some fee in form of an inflation tax. People who lock up their coins pay less of a fee or even see a bit of an increase, depending on how long they lock up.

That's it.

How much is this worth? Simple: it could be worth as the CD market that it correlates with, and how much people use CD's.

HEX has a few thing going for it:
- The locking mechanism might help prevent panic dumping
- It's in the Ethereum ecosystem so it can automatically be used in all protocols that support ERC20
- It's grabs people's attention, if only because of its extravagant creator ("there is no such thing as bad publicity")
- Asia is still sleeping on it. Imagine if they ever FOMO on it.

>>18891814
>This thread has 200 replies and not one did a good job of explaining the project
https://jocularship.htmlpasta.com/

>>18891639
there's no way a legitimate attorney would give him an all-clear on this IMO. there is too much risk for the SEC or some other govt body to still drag his ass through the mud, even if ultimately unsuccessful

>>18891833
>HEX has a few thing going for it:
Hex is a wash trading scam promulgated by Richard James Schueler. He hired several script kiddies to write a contract on ethereum, because of how low effort it is to make an ERC20 scam.

>>18878935
>You won't get rich
I'm already rich
you sound like an IDIOTA who is about to get passed on marketcap

>>18891541
RH talks about this stuff in his videos. Certain watches and cars can appreciate in value as they age. Doesn't make them securities. The appreciation isn't tired to the work of any 3rd party, but because the product is designed well and sought after.

there's no expectation of work around Hex. The product is done, it's created. There's no development roadmap. There's no development. It's finished. Like the watch or the car. Any work being done to create tokens (i.e. staking or using the AA) is being performed by the user executing the completed, finished code. There's no work being done by a 3rd party. There's nobody to even have an expectation from.

>>18891844
are you a lawyer?

>>18891883
>1 post by this ID
Ok Richard

>>18891814
First of all, why are you doing research on projects in biz threads? It's a decentralized time deposit on the blockchain. You lock up hex for some amount of time and collect inflation. There's also a bunch of game theory layers involved offering incentives to stake longer and bigger. You read up on all that at hex.win

>>18891957
It's a wash trading scam.
Anon if you are reading this don't give Richard your ethereum or bitcoin public key.

>>18891892
i get it, and I've heard him say that. the problem is his misleading doublespeak on the website. it's easy for plebs to get led to believe they'll make 10000x by buying his shit. this is a common red flag for ponzis

>>18891991
if your stupid brain interprets it that way its on you. it's totally clear to me and anyone who has two braincells to rub together, which unsurprisingly is most of /biz/

>>18892016
>which unsurprisingly is most of /biz/
Your on here too, you dumb fat ass.

The goobers who think this is a scam, if we're so blind then why bother trying to help us? Why the fuck are you even in these threads? Why are you trying to help if it's your intention to gloat at us when this crashes? Do you know what a paradox is? All you do is clutter these threads with your pseudo legal advice and ad hominem trash. I haven't heard one god damn argument besides this is a scam and scammy scam ponzi scam. I honestly truly wouldn't mind negative feedback that had some educated backbone to it but there is none. Just insults - that's not an argument guys. It's really lame.

Do yourself a favor and do 10 minutes of research on what a security is, how Richard avoids it (to an exhausting degree), why crypto's aren't securities, why he built HEX with the aesthetic it has, why he dresses the gaudy way he does, what he says about his past, what is likely to happen to the ETH based on his interests, his past, his thoughts on crypto fundamentals. DO YOUR OWN FUCKING RESEARCH. DYOR.

>>18875983
>0.006
OH YEAH BABY

>>18892049
Fuck off scammer, no one will fall for your wash trading ponzi scheme.

>>18892085
>1 post by this id
Being a 40 year old NEET must get tiring after a while, right Richard?

>>18891991
Do you also think plebs get mislead by the McDonalds slogan "I'm lovin' it" in case they, in fact, are not loving it per se?

Or are you just splitting hairs on marketing speak?

>>18892016
whatever helps you sleep at night. here are just a couple of examples from the website. there are tons riddled throughout the hex website where people could assume they expect profit in USD, not hex.

>>18892109
Stop posting, faggot.

>>18892132

>>18891763
I guarantee that you are fat, and he has seventy million dollars. HE WON. It worked, it's over. His fucking project succeeded. So he's just gonna wash away? Because you said so? No proof but he did it.

He already won. Why? Because no one invests in crypto for the fucking blockchain. No one uses crypto to do anything but make money in crypto. That's the whole thesis behind hex. FUCK.

>>18892143
You really must be salty with how much gains hexbros are making, huh?

No, Richard.

>>18892155
>HE WON. It worked, it's over.
The scam sure did work, didn't it Richard?

I only have 5k HEX. Am I gonna to make it?

>>18892049
great post. well said. I'd love to hear some actual arguments against Hex but all I get is "scam! ponzi!" and it's fucking irritating.

>>18892118
first one is totally true. The stakers get to keep all of the new money created via interest with Hex. With fiat the gov. and banks keep most of it. If your dumb brain inserts USD in there when it's not, it's on you. Second statement is also true. What's the problem there? You think hex would do better if fewer people participated?

>>18892202
>1 post by this id
No Richard, you are not going to make it.

>>18892160
Your hex is not locked up for a year, you literally pick the length you can lock it for. I have 7-30 day stakes going, I can cash out whenver the fuck I want. You guys need to try harder.

>>18892240
If you say so, Richard.
I wonder what Nick Szabo thinks of HEX.

>>18892226
man, you have absolutely no idea how the real world works or are being disingenuous. look up some SEC cases. they fuck people harder on a lot less than this

>>18892240
>I can cash out whenver the fuck I want.
Did you forget to mention the 90% unstake fee?

>>18892160
The most important thing for a crypto to succeed is widespread market cap. Getting it in the hands of many people. That's why he gave free hex to BTC holders. It gets locked for one year, not bad considering it's fucking free money. The hex that isn't claimed goes back to the stakers.

If you only claim your free hex with your BTC account - it's literally the least scammy thing ever invented: you get free hex for free.

>>18892202
no probably not.
just to give a sense of possibilities, if HEX were the same market cap as ETH is today, $22B (and I do believe that's possible), and 75% of Hex was staked (out of circulating supply), Hex would be priced at about $0.15.

Better strat would be buy about 500k HEX, stake it at 5000 per month for 9 years. With interest and BPD bonuses you'd be able to collect about 40-50k HEX per month for nine years starting in 2021. That could be enough to be set for life, if HEX makes it into the top 3 (again, I think there's a good chance)

>>18892226
scam!
ponzi!
Unattractive fat guy, with an ear piercing!

>>18892226
Fee is dependent on how long your original stake was. It's pretty negligible unless you staked for like 15 years.

>>18892190
Define what a scam is. Go ahead, I'm waiting.

>>18892274
do you have an example of a similar situation?

>>18892298
>The most important thing for a crypto to succeed is widespread market cap.
Or actually having a use case, since it's non-artificial (non wash traded) price is an direct proportion to it's contribution.

>>18892316
not true. Right now you can stake for 1 year and get 20% plus BigPayDay bonus. It'll be less in the future, but when you factor in compounding, even 5% per year would be amazing.

>>18892274
Enlighten us dude. Seriously now is your chance! NOW. Fucking deliver an argument.

>>18892298
>If you only claim your free hex with your BTC account
No one is going to giving you their bitcoin private key.

>>18892356

RETARD

>>18892327
you telling me a trustless certificate of deposit, that has anti-dumping mechanisms built in, that can be used on decentralized exchanges, isn't a use case?

>>18892351
No I meant the emergency unstaking fee. It's not 90+% unless you have a very long stake.

>>18892280
Dude. You guys, I don't understand why you troll in these threads if you don't even know how hex works. What is the point? You don't even know what you're arguing and you're wasting your own time. It's so lame. You can stake if you want to, you don't have to. The penalties are negligible (I even tested it) as long as you don't end a really long stake (as you'd be basically saying fuck off to all the stakers that followed your lead).

>>18892319
Tricking people out of their ethereum and bitcoin, by appearing to make false promises. (using hyperbole is also a way of scamming people; golden yacht anyone?!)
>>18892354
>Fucking deliver an argument.
Something Richard couldn't do on WhalePool.

>>18892371
>1 post by this id
>>18892383
>a trustless certificate of deposit
It's not trustless it's centralized and dependent on Richard.

>>18892322
>>18892354
https://www.sec.gov/investor/alerts/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ponzi_schemes
have fun

>>18892327
NO, that doesn't matter. Look at the top crypto's by market cap. NONE OF THEM DO ANYTHING. Even if your hobby is crypto when was the last time you used fucking XRP or LINK or DOGECOIN or any of them. ANY of them. Now ask a random dude on the street - hey isn't that new altcoin technology helping you?

NO.

NO.

NO.

Wake up.

>>18892412
>Dude.
You sound like an 11 year old fourth grader.
(((hex))), is an ERC20 wash trading scam. I'm glad CoinPaprika is de-listing it, just like @whale_alert

ALERT! ALERT! HUGE drop coming , PAY ATTENTION !!!!!!!!!

>>18892439
no it isn't you moron. how is it dependent on Richard? The code is done. It can't be changed. Only thing RH does is market and have a web client, because it's in his interest to, but it's certainly not dependent on that

>>18892462
>NO, that doesn't matter.
Bitcoin, CryptoNote, Ethereum, Xdag. These original projects are not useful? Are you so fat and lazy you had to use an ethereum contract? You couldn't learn a programming language and write your own project? You stand on the shoulders of giants, you disrespectful fat ass.

>>18892493
I think he's talking about the big bags Richard is holding, that he thinks Rich will to dump the price, destroy his reputation and crash the project which he's been working on for two years.

>>18892493
>no it isn't you moron.
Yes it is, Richard. You have already been reported to the SEC.
>>18892549
>1 post by this ID
He won't be alive long enough.

>>18892549
>Rich will use to dump the price*

>>18892549
it is pretty funny when you think about it.

>>18892557
>He won't be alive long enough.
Ohh nooo, we have a killerin here

>>18892420
You thought that interview painted the Whale guys in a positive light? Good God.

>by appearing to make false promises

Look at this language. "Appearing" to make false promises? What the fuck does that mean. Either you make a promise or you don't. You guarantee a return or an interest or you don't. Let me appear to make you a false promise. Okay?

Heart is so damn explicit on this point and it's frustrating so many can't process this. He is explicit because he knows to guarantee anything is suicide. It is designed to give returns. It is designed to go up. Designed to do it. Semantics is very important.

>>18892549
>destroy his reputation
He did that back in Panama.

>>18892549
>which he's been working on for two years.
You mean the programmers he had to hire, because he can't program?
>>18892589
He's gotten fatter.

>>18892455
Yeah looks like you've done a lot of research you fucking guy. You clearly are the expert on this subject. Jesus Christ.

>>18892579
Yeah, when you think about it, it makes perfect sense, Richard really wants to fuck himself in front of the whole world and leave his name in ruin.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE FRENCHIES OR SOMEBODY WHO SPEAKS FRENCHIE:
How do I write corporate/company savings in le Froncaise?

>>18892354
sup man? you quiet now? the SEC alert I posted describes Hex to a fucking T.
https://www.sec.gov/investor/alerts/ia_virtualcurrencies.pdf
how the fuck isnt the SEC going to be interested in this shit?

>>18892595
>What the fuck does that mean.
Maybe the price will go up or maybe it will go down, while doing everything to paint the project in a positive light.
>You guarantee a return or an interest or you don't.
So which do you guarantee, Richard? Returns or no returns? Work or no work?

>>18892596
Lol he already addressed all that character assassination against him regarding Panama.

Boy, you're just eating up all the FUD hook line and sinker, huh? I bet youre little dick gets hard when you see a slight dip on the chart because you desperately want to feel vindicated. Ain't gonna happen anytime soon bud

>>18892624
lmao, nice response. did you even bother reading anything? literally the last 5 years of SEC prosecutions are filled with crypto shit. the SEC alert i posted might as well be an alert about hex.

>>18883368
>He's not referring himself

>>18892641
the article you linked to was about ponzis. hex isn't a ponzi. you'd know that if you weren't a moron

>>18892595
Your footnote stylometry is meaning less.
>He is explicit because he knows to guarantee anything is suicide. It is designed to give returns. It is designed to go up. Designed to do it. Semantics is very important
So it promises, returns, and therefore is a security?

>>18892650
>So which do you guarantee, Richard? Returns or no returns? Work or no work?

Relax anon, you seem uptight.
Nobody is expecting anything other than the unexpected.

>>18892478
The Whale guys were embarrassing, especially the guy that kept screaming scam at the top of his lungs the entire interview. If it's so clearly a scam buddy, then why do you feel the need to constantly yell scam every 2 minutes? Is your audience so stupid that they can't tell an obvious scam when they hear one? They had nothing substantial whatsoever to offer to that discussion.

And I'm sure there'll be another alert feed if there isn't one already, no one cares. Where is coinpaprika delisting it?

>>18883997
Use chrome

>>18892686
the SEC seems to think differently

>>18892652
>Boy, you're just eating up all the FUD hook line and sinker, huh?
I read the court documents, Richard. The rest of your post nullifies your argument. You are not a 4th grader, you are a 40 year old man, posting on an anime message board.

>>18876130
this. i went all in when i saw trevon james shilling.

>>18892709
Way to dodge the question, Richard.

>>18892709
>unexpected.
That's still an expectation, you fat fool. Giving people the expectation of work makes HEX a security.
>>18892736
>1 post by this id

>>18892713
Oh that guy was onbnoxious as fuck. Absolute Dunning-Kruger on a power trip on his little teamspeak server. I can imagine anyone behaving like that IRL getting clocked in the face pretty fast.

>>18892781
He spoke the truth.

>>18892698
>So it promises, returns, and therefore is a security?
It doesn't and it isn't. Everyone knows that. Why is it so hard for you to understand this.
It promises more Hex (the valueless tokens that people seem to want to buy for 100x more now ) as it's designed to do.

>>18892535
Bitcoin was revolutionary and immensely creative and original and ingenious. A few others definitely have their merits but just copy the tech and either improve a piece of it. All the altcoins are not USEFUL. They have close to ZERO adoption. They have become speculative investments, that's what they are. Someone who is genuinely interested in the blockchain technology would not be on /biz/ they would be on a forum that talks about the technology. I'm not slamming the people behind the altcoins, very smart creative people, absolutely. But facts are facts.

>>18892718
This

>>18892734
Are you trolling or a real schizoid thinking everyone is Richard?

>>18892816
>All the altcoins are not USEFUL.
All the forks, you mean.

>>18892698
1. It is an investment of money
2. There is an expectation of profits from the investment
3. The investment of money is in a common enterprise
4. Any profit comes from the efforts of a promoter or third party

no expectation of profit, just what's possible. no work being performed by 3rd party. Hex is finished product you the user run.

the only return promised is the interest in hex you receive if you stake, which is guaranteed by the smart contract.

>>18892838
>the only return promised is the interest in hex you receive if you stake,
Therefore it's a security.

>>18892816
>But facts are facts.
Opinions are opinions

>>18892641
>how the fuck isnt the SEC going to be interested in this shit?
> A Ponzi scheme is an investment scam that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, rather than engaging in any legitimate investment activity, the fraudulent actors focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier investors as well as to divert some of these “invested” funds for personal use.the seC investigates and prosecutes many Ponzi scheme cases each year to prevent new victims from being harmed and to maximize recovery of assets to investors. As with many frauds, Ponzi scheme organizers often use the latest innovation, technology, product or growth industry to entice investors and give their scheme the promise of high returns. Potential investors are often less skeptical of an investment opportunity when assessing something novel, new or “cutting-edge.”
This fits hex, perfectly.

>>18892855
No because you mint your own hex through the smart contract. If you don't mint it then it doesn't exist.

>>18892855
no... because you are minting the hex yourself, you are manually executing the smart contract. there's no 3rd party performing effort.

>>18892855
How is getting more valueless, vaporware tokens tied to being a security?
I mean come on, you're way off the deep end here, man.
I'm starting to think someone might have hurt you or something. Are you alright?

>>18892891
>>18892899
>>18892904
Same fag

>>18892673
Have you done any research on hex? What are Heart's rebuttal's to the implications of it being a ponzi? Tell me what you think of them.

>>18892916
The same fag keeps hurting you every day?
Can we help in any way?

>>18892904
He missed out on 100x. Now venting as a coping mechanism

>>18892926
>What are Heart's rebuttal's to the implications of it being a ponzi?
Make fun of peoples dick sizes

>>18892935
I think there's some fag hurting him or something, he's confused about the whole situation.

>>18892904
>>18892929
>I'm starting to think someone might have hurt you or something. Are you alright?
Someone's going to hurt you Richard, for this ponzi wash trading scam.

>>18892886
no it doesn't fit hex at all
>returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors

that's not how hex works. Stakers are paid out with interest created by smart contract. New investors (via AA) are creating their own new hex which didn't exist previously when they run the AA code.

take some time to learn how hex works please, cuz you clearly don't have any clue about anything.

>>18892957
You mean the same way WhalePool hurt Richards feelings?

>>18892958
I hope it's not the fag who keeps hurting you, man, I really wouldn't want to end up like you.

>>18892938
the dude had just been called a scammer and all sorts of names for 2 hours straight by Pinocchio and the other clowns on that show. was he just supposed to take it?

>>18892926
he quotes the Howey test and thinks he's outsmarted the system by not technically doing work for others and having a smart contract do it, and some other things. except courts evolve and they change precedent all the time if they see people getting fucked

>>18892966
>Stakers are paid out with interest created by smart contract.
That you give them for their ethereum.
>>18892980
You will never be thin, Richard.>>18892987
>was he just supposed to take it?

>>18892698
It doesn't promise returns. I don't understand you. It doesn't promise or guarantee anything. Hex is designed to make returns. Semantics dude, you can't just conflate two words because you feel like it.

>>18892996
>You will never be thin, Richard.
Is he starving you as well? That's horrible. You need to eat something anon.

>>18892966
better hope he's not recycling AA

Richards dad looks like a fatter Gene Shalit, same Jewish facial features, too.

>>18892775
trevon draws dimes. idk how he has such a huge following after the bticonnect thing but i want in this time.

>>18892999
>It doesn't promise or guarantee anything.
It promises hex in exchange for ethereum, and an iterest on that hex if staked. You are promising work.
>>18892987
>the dude had just been called a scammer
Because of the wash trading, or taking other peoples ethereum?

>>18893027
Lol this nigger forgot to take his meds today.

>>18893046
Trevon is an absolute treasure. Based AF.

>>18893025
do you have any evidence of this?

>>18893046
>trevon draws dimes. idk how he has such a huge following after the bticonnect thing but i want in this time.
Are you really admitting you want to be part of a ponzi scam?

>>18892869
No it's a fact. The % of people that use cryptocurrency is absolutely negligible, it has no adoption and it is decreasing. You can look this up yourself. I wish it had adoption, fuck the banks, fuck VISA. But crypto isn't what it was supposed to be.

>>18893070
>Trevon is an absolute treasure. Based AF.
>>18893071
Stop posting, Richard.

>>18893094
>No it's a fact.
No it's not you liar.

>>18893076
nope. but i know that 1000+ eth floods in all at once, and there is a slow trickle throughout the rest of the day. it looks inorganic as fuck

>>18893071
It's as if Richard fucked his mother or something.

>>18893126
>it looks inorganic as fuck
This, it's strange that almost all of the posts in this thread are lowercase, with missing punctuation. Almost as if he hired paid shills on Fivver to defend his ponzi scam.

>>18893126
>it looks inorganic as fuck
Wow that's quite the evidence you've got there buddy.
Give it up for mr. Detective here.

>>18893134
Richard's mom looks like Lord Farquaad, from Shrek. But I guess all Jewish women do.

>>18892990
Okay, well that's your argument and at last I heard it and I respect it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the judicial system isn't going to redefine their definition of a ponzi scheme to take down hex. Especially when Richard is so painfully clear on these points. And especially when the fucking thing is literally more transparent than any other crypto, and is actually less likely to fuck everyone with the basically guaranteed 90% drop that crypto's love to do - can we get protection from that?

>>18893178
>Richard's mom looks like Lord Farquaad, from Shrek. But I guess all Jewish women do.
So are you saying you're into that?

>>18893160
It's pretty obvious on its face man. Some plebbit fag did chain analysis if you want to put any weight on that. But literally just watch the AA lobby tomorrow.

>>18893202
>I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the judicial system isn't going to redefine their definition of a ponzi scheme to take down hex.
It doesn't need to, you have been proven wrong multiple times within this thread.

>>18893202
>guaranteed 90% drop that crypto's love to do can we get protection from that?
Of course, buy BTC, it's a good coin, only drops 85%

>>18893248
>Of course, buy BTC,
This

>>18893227
I watch it every day. It's nice to see the ETH in the AA rise.

>>18893202
I don't think it's that much more unlikely to drop. 75% of people are unstaked and can dump at any time. But it definitely is transparent in terms of transactions and a few other things. Just know that at any day the SEC could send a notice out about Hex like they did about Bitconnect and everyone and their fucking sister will be running to sell the fuck out of this shit

>>18893062
>It promises hex in exchange for ethereum, and an iterest on that hex if staked. You are promising work.

It doesn't promise hex for ethereum. You buy Hex with ETH. That's like saying you can't buy this thing with your money even if you want to.

And it pays out in interest as more hex. Everything you do is on you. The project is totally completed, it runs itself. No other work is being done, no re-investment into hex, this is explicitly stated many times.

>>18893264
So that's why you're angry, your BTC isn't pumping? How much have you lost anon?

We only need Richard until the BPD. He can recycle ETH all he wants, it's his money and his project he wants to support.

After that he can die or be jailed and it won't matter to HEX. The code is complete and the game will go on. SEC will have to shut down Ethereum to stop HEX.

>>18893271
>It doesn't promise hex for ethereum. You buy Hex with ETH.
People give Richard ethereum for hex.

>>18893123
I'd be glad to be proven wrong honestly. Show me that crypto is useful or being adopted. Show me the numbers. I like crypto, but it's a fucking speculative investment, we turned it into money to gamble. No one's paycheck is in ETH.

>>18893270
>Just know that at any day the SEC could send a notice out about Hex like they did about Bitconnect and everyone and their fucking sister will be running to sell the fuck out of this shit
They can't really take down the contract and they can't tie any address to any person. It's crypto man, it's risky business.

>>18893267
>>18893270
>>18893271
anyone know why i cant find hex listed as available coins on Uniswap?

>>18893319
>>18893290
>>18893286
>>18893310
BTW I love how we just keep going up as this thread goes on.

>>18893319
>but it's a fucking speculative investment
Anything can be a "speculative investment" if you're brave enough.
>>18893327
>They can't really take down the contract and they can't tie any address to any person. It's crypto man, it's risky business.
They can warn about it, though.

>>18893345
Because they want to pretend the project which uses and advertizes for them most doesn't exist.
Use hexdex.win or paste the hex contract address from etherscan.

>>18893327
i believe you can still technically buy Bitconnect tokens too. if the SEC or a regulator sent out a letter, hex would become a dead shitcoin overnight like Bitconnect.

>>18893231
Unless you are with the SEC, and are not a complete plebian when it comes to SEC law just like me - (you) would be the one to offer the burden of proof if you think that the SEC is going to overhaul their definition of a ponzi scheme. That means it's up to you to tell me why the law is going to be completely fucking changed.

>>18893352
>They can warn about it, though.
They can warn all they want. You're out here sounding the sirens and the price gives no fucks about your opinions.

>>18893388
>if the SEC or a regulator sent out a letter, hex would become a dead shitcoin overnight like Bitconnect.
>>18893401

itt HEX is a ponzi but my favorite cryptos are not its science and has nothing to do with my bags

>>18893390
it's not that the law will be changed. it's how the jury/court interprets the facts under the law. precedent necessarily evolves with time and technology

>>18893390
>That means it's up to you to tell me why the law is going to be completely fucking changed.
It's not.

>>18893310
Yes, exactly. That's not a ponzi scheme.

>>18893388
If you look at both projects honestly there are clear differences. If you look close enough they are opposites, but I understand that you and many others see the supposed similarities. In time we will all know the truth.

>>18893450
Yes it is, you're making clearly making false promises in exchange for ethereum.

>>18893415
lmao, seriously? there's a difference between retarded bitcoin news outlets calling it a scam and a real regulator putting its put down. people were calling Bitconnect a scam long before the texas regulators stepped in and it reached the top 10

>>18893415
>if the SEC or a regulator sent out a letter, hex would become a dead shitcoin overnight like Bitconnect.
Why? Who will they be threatening? The smart contract? The Ethereum network? The stakers? The holders? Richard who lives in the middle of who knows where?

>hello, mr. mnuchin? id like to report bags pumping that arent mine

>>18893456
good luck fren. glad to talk rationally

>>18893497
My mistake meant to swap the posts.

>>18893498
How's bitconnect doing?

>>18893499
kek

>>18893520
That's the only way to communicate fren. The shitposting is just for the giggles.

>>18893498
I'm assuming it would go to Richard right now, even though it's technically run by a smart contract. I think they can also just put out a general alert/notice for the public

>>18893499
>mr. mnuchin?
He's better than Richard at understanding finance and economics.

>>18893443
Well the fact is that if a jury didn't do their due diligence and realize quickly that Richard basically cracks your skull open with the amount of times he emphatically promises you nothing, repeatedly saying it could drop to zero and that it is only designed to go up based on the CD format which protects against the infamous crypto drops.. The fact that someone wouldn't do any research at all before investing their own money has nothing to do with him.

>>18893475
Show me the promise!! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

>>18893594
to be fair, he's fucked up too... on the whalepool stream he boasted about making people rich and said one of the people with hex would likely have a yacht in the future. just be careful fren

>>18893594
>cracks your skull open with the amount of times he emphatically promises you nothing
He promises hex in exchange for ethereum.
>>18893610
Your on crack if you think hex isn't a wash trading ponzi scam.

>>18893621
I heard that stream. I think he's okay - again, no promises, no promises of work or reinvestment or anything. If you can't make a funny little statement like that then god help us.

>>18893566
It's a good assumption. I for one am not against someone getting rich from selling their product. I think he deserves all of it because IMHO Hex is just that good. I think the problem people see is that he's likely gonna have extremely big bags of Hex. The question in regard to that is "Who is Richard Heart?", because he can (which is the big fear people have) sink the project. Now does he want to do that? Or what does he want to do? What has he been talking about wanting to do for the past 4 years? The people who have been following his livestreams know what he has claimed to want to do?
Have you seen the videos? Have you read his books? Do you know what I'm talking about, because it's too much information to bring to a 4chan post.

>>18893671
>I heard that stream. I think he's okay - again, no promises
It was a golden yacht for staking for 14 years.
>If you can't make a funny little statement like that then god help us.
Nope, even ironic hyperbole suggests the exception of a reward.

>>18893632
>He promises hex in exchange for ethereum.

I am not following you. Yes there is an exchange where you can turn ETH into HEX. You can even call it a promise if you want. What are you saying?

>>18893711
We'll agree to disagree here. I think he's pretty careful but you're right he could fuck up.

>>18893708
>I for one am not against someone getting rich from selling their product.
Nope, he's not selling a product, he's taking others peoples ethereum.
>>18893718
>You can even call it a promise if you want. What are you saying?
Hex is a security and a scam.

>>18893742
You lost the argument.

>>18893711
A guy jokingly talking about some staker potentially getting a yacht in 14 years is not really SEC case worthy material.

>>18893708
Not who you replied to but I've seen a few of his videos. Longevity research or something?

>>18893764
If it makes you feel better.

>>18893774
>A guy jokingly talking about some staker potentially getting a yacht in 14 years is not really SEC case worthy material.
>>18893711
>Nope, even ironic hyperbole suggests the exception of a reward.

Holy hell the size of this thread

>>18893708
Have you read his books?
You mean those Wikipedia articles he plagiarized?

>>18893743
>Nope, he's not selling a product, he's taking others peoples ethereum.
Taking it. "HE" is taking it. The people minting Hex are not interacting with a smart contract to get what they want more than the ethereum. Richard is taking the money out of their wallets.

I think the summation of this thread is that everyone needs to sharpen their pencils on SEC law so we can adjudicate this case. Otherwise this thread just goes in circles.

>>18893844
>Richard is taking the money out of their wallets.
He's tricking people into giving him ethereum.

>>18893778
Yes one of the things, which is the best cause you could have, but there is the sum of the content which he has produced, which gives an understanding on who Richard is and what his values are.

>>18893855
I think everyone needs to stay away from HEX, even Richard himself admitted in that WhalePool podcast that he is being censored everywhere he goes with HEX. That should tell everyone one what they need to know.

>>18893844
I buy BTC with USD. Coinbase just took my USD. They took it. Took it right out of my wallet. Because I wanted to make an exchange of my own volition. An ERC token is a product. What are you implying?

Also, Richard again is careful not to say that it's his wallet. He never tells you anything about the origin address.

>>18893946
>He never tells you anything about the origin address
Other than it's existence.

>>18893946
I'm pretty sure he knows these things. There are many people who are afraid of Hex in the industry. There are many projects that want to do everything they can not to let the truth out, such as paying people like this guy to poison the well and ad-hominem Richard.

>>18893981
>95 posts by this id

>>18893981
>Other than it's existence.
Well that's good to know otherwise there might be some fuckery going on, that we wouldn't have been informed on.

>>18894000
He's a consistent poster if nothing else.

>>18894016
>Well that's good to know otherwise there might be some fuckery going on, that we wouldn't have been informed on.
Yeah, that address might belong to Richard.

>>18893920
I think it's a revolutionary and simple crypto that was long overdue. If you don't like it don't invest. But to act like crypto isn't the most volatile of all investments, to act like financial planners recommend you buying LINK or something. There is a lot of hypocrisy here. And there's a lot of irony too because hex is actually the most transparent of all crypto's. There have been so many crypto's that have left so many bagholders. No one knows where the fuck any crypto is going, and anyone that tells you they know isn't worth listening to. But a crypto that rewards long investors and shows you when other people might be leaving the market - I just don't see how people don't think that crypto isn't a speculative investment.

>>18894036
>>18894000
I know you and most others in this thread have been same fagging.
>>18894045
It's a scam.

>>18894056
>It's a scaaam

>>18894044
>that address might belong to Richard.
Sure it might. It might not. What's it to you? Not your Eth, not your Hex, not your problem.
You're holding BTC - the good coin.

>>18893993
I agree. HEX is a slap in the face to so many ridiculous fantasies. Problem is there are a lot of people that hold onto those fantasies. And you have to seriously ask the question, non-rhetorically, do we actually want crypto to be this highly volatile investment option? Maybe the huge pumps and drops are what people want.

>>18894056
You're the scam nigger. You're the one sperging and spamming incorrect info here. Probably getting paid by someone too

>>18894045
Clown world confirmed. Everything's upside down and ass-backwards, and has been for a long time.

>>18894096
So far that is what people have wanted out of crypto, but perhaps the biggest pump of all time, which incentivizes holding/staking instead of trading will turn out to be something they want even more.

Scam