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MRO boys

Hello frens. SOXL is the answer. Face it. Semiconductors are crack in all but name. The desire for newer, faster, more is insatiable. Computers, GPUs, self-driving electric cars, AI enhanced smartphones, medical devices, microcontrollers, networking gear, machine learning, surveillance, infrastructure, military, the list is endless. No matter how many cores, how fast or efficient, demand requires bigger, faster, cheaper, better. The clamor for fresh silicon gives nary shit for national identity, creed, hue, gender or other vain conceit; the multitude speaks in singular. The plea: semiconductor.
SOXL couples a single ETF entry point with the the best companies the space has to offer then pushes these already stellar returns to the limit with 3x leverage. With SOXL your economic interests are aligned with hardware powerhouses TSM, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Intel, Broadcom, AMD, Micron, Texas Instruments, Applied Materials, et al. Real tech companies with innovative products people want, not """tech""" """companies""" pushing shitty ads. And like all leveraged ETFs, SOXL is rebalanced daily, deftly mitigating margin risks.
In the last 7 years, barring the coronavirus interruption, SOXL has exploded over 55x yet still we are early. Semiconductor growth will proceed exponentially until every viable space is saturated with it. This is a fait accompli; the sheer number of interested parties and compelling outcomes make it so. The injection of increasingly compact and efficient sensors, microcontrollers, information processing and storage into everywhere and everything will be this era's seminal revolution, a revolution with SOXL holders planted firmly at the receiving end.
Stop waiting for more "pullback". The crash was a gift and fretting over the exact bottom is meaningless. Deliberation is over; waiting.. is a failure mode. Now. Buy it now.

2nd for GALT

Damn son, you guys haven't seen this kind of professional trading have you?

The Market will cut your heart out if you aren't careful

CCL is bae

Can I get your opinion on the February 2018 chart in comparison to this current crash?

Pic related is the S&P500

you bought oil stocks, right anon?

AMZN tomorrow. Then what?

>>18764291
Is it bad that I've been trading stocks since 2006 and futures since 2014 but have never touched or learned much about options?

>>18764303
Reddit alert. Reddit alert. Fatty moralfag spotted! Post your body

>>18764303
>line go up fast bad

>>18764309
why? oil isn't going above $25-30 for years
you should have shorted oil and been done with it newbie

I want 2 million dollars

>>18764328
well yes. If I remember right, we didn't really have any catalyst or recession signs. We were just super overvalued.

I think we're going to look similar to that chart soon by virtue of just having too much crazy buying.

>>18764323
Massive sell signal

>>18764322
as long as you're profitable

>Total worldwide economic collapse
>Greatest unemployment in history
>Deepest debt crisis in history
>Mortgages rapidly moving into forbearance
>Stocks reaching all time highs
*sips*

What broker are my Euro friends using right now?
I went to TastyWorks from IBRK now, and they are pretty good.

>>18764355
>fatty anti-cunny is using a VPN now
Post your body

>>18764280


Hello frens. KEK is the answer. Face it. Semiconductors are crack in all but name. The desire for newer, faster, more is insatiable. Computers, GPUs, self-driving electric cars, AI enhanced smartphones, medical devices, microcontrollers, networking gear, machine learning, surveillance, infrastructure, military, the list is endless. No matter how many cores, how fast or efficient, demand requires bigger, faster, cheaper, better. The clamor for fresh silicon gives nary shit for national identity, creed, hue, gender or other vain conceit; the multitude speaks in singular. The plea: semiconductor.
KEK couples a single PEEPEEPOOPOO entry point with the the best companies the space has to offer then pushes these already stellar returns to the limit with 3x leverage. With KEK your economic interests are aligned with hardware powerhouses TSM, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Intel, Broadcom, AMD, Micron, Texas Instruments, Applied Materials, et al. Real tech companies with innovative products people want, not """tech""" """companies""" pushing shitty ads. And like all leveraged PEEPEEPOOPOOs, KEK is rebalanced daily, deftly mitigating margin risks.
In the last 7 years, barring the coronavirus interruption, SOXL has exploded over 55x yet still we are early. Semiconductor growth will proceed exponentially until every viable space is saturated with it. This is a fait accompli; the sheer number of interested parties and compelling outcomes make it so. The injection of increasingly compact and efficient sensors, microcontrollers, information processing and storage into everywhere and everything will be this era's seminal revolution, a revolution with KEK holders planted firmly at the receiving end.
Stop waiting for more "pullback". The crash was a gift and fretting over the exact bottom is meaningless. Deliberation is over; waiting.. is a failure mode. Now. Buy it now.

>>18764256
Tyson foods TSN a good buy?

I want to believe Tyson will recover back to 100! since stocks only go up right? Should I put calls on Tyson despite the fact theyre closing meat plants? I mean everything else is closed and gaining today

>>18764285
It's finally McFucken time

>>18764280
SPXL outperforms SOXL

I REALLY WANT 2 MILLION DOLLARS

>>18764358
I'VE LOST IT ALL, CAT
I'VE FUCKING LOST IT ALL BEING A BEAR

friendly reminder that tanker stocks will continue to go up because oil is a store of value and mother fuckers want to buy that shit like gold to resell later.
we're way past the point of utility with this oil crisis and there's no doubt some big money that wants to do exactly what all the talking heads only joke about: "filling their swimming pool," aka buying a mother fucking tanker full of oil and just sitting on it to sell in several months once enough dick waving is done to get production into line.
soon tankers will be like so many bars of gold floating around the ocean.
oil is a store of value and mother fuckers are absolutely buying the dip but need physical storage space in order to hold their "position"

>>18764336
longterm investing

>>18764396
post your venmo.

>>18764373
You have legit brain damage.

>>18764364
europe is a lego land with lego names for everything

I wanna YOLO my last 50 bucks tomorrow. any call option suggestions?

>>18764409
wow double your small pennies in 5 years with a chance of losing it all. amazing investment
oil is dead

>>18764414
>2 posts by this ID
Adding this to the fatty screenshot

>>18764358
>I watch soooo much X22Report
>Worst unemployment for 2 months next month almost everyone goes back to work
>OMG DONT BANKRUPTARINOS

Stock traders are the realists not the youtube pundits and media elite paid to sell you illusions while they make money.

>>18764434
holy fuck this guy is wild.

should i be comparing my daily gains to the DOW or is that some boomer retard shit?

>>18764434
Go back go /x/, you fucking schizo. VPN are banned, you faglord.

heh yeah i'm totally gonna be rich.

>>18764423
Call your mom and tell her you love her

>>18764423

Give it to me

Asymmetrical straddles

>>18764274
>>18764300

Thats me and MGM! up almost 40%

>>18764377
Cramer said nosiree yesterday. All hail Cramer

>>18764358
you are my hero cat-kun

>>18764473
>Cramer said

>>18764274
Fuck yeah. 21% gain alone just with MRO. I'm still holding. Lots of upside left to tap.

This market is retarded.

>>18764336
you are an idiot, there is a vacuum left in the market from this massive drawdown in production
as things slowly turn back on some companies are going to do better than others and capture more market share

>>18764438
>Stock traders are the realists

>>18764451
>>18764442
>using a VPN
Another screenshot. Fatty moralfag. Post your body.

>>18764438
>Stock traders are the realists not the youtube pundits and media elite paid to sell you illusions while they make money.
Are you having a giggle? Right now GIBBS is the biggest catnip for investors in a company's stock. They are straight up ignoring Q2/Q3 and allowing for even bad Q4 results because they "remember" what Q4 2019 was like.
20 years ago GIBBS sunk a stock. Now its like the launch pad. Making money is inferior to performing poorly and being bailed out or effectively bailed out with no interest loans.

>>18764497
shut up and buy

>>18764256
i should have bought oil refining stonks 2 weeks ago! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xMmTkfg5XU

the state of stocktwits coping

>>18764466
Yes I have that too. Good taste anon

We are going back down simply because reddit passive ETF investing hasn't been totally decimated yet

When the passive ETF basedcels lose everything to high T dark tried chad wall st traders on cocaine then we can go back up

>>18764450
compare your daily gains to SPY. its the way to tell if you're actually good at this, or just wasting your own time.
source: i am just wasting my own time

>Negative Futures
OHNONONO WE ARE GIVING BOBOS A HOPE

>>18764374
All in
>>18764390
>SPXL outperforms SOXL
I like SPXL too as well as FNGU, TQQQ, TECL, SSO, URTY, and so on. Whatever, pick your poison and ride market gains. I just happen to like SOXL better cuz in a former life I was an electrical engineer and I'm bullish on semiconductors. Trade what you know as long as its good

Anyone want to cope about CCL being up 100% off the low? Remember when the smart anons (non anime posters) told you to buy it? What does this all say about your brain?

>>18764433
ok retard

>>18764509

Bears in deep denial right now. You missed your chance. Just like late 2018.

>tankers after hours

>>18764423
Find a 40 dollar AAPL call for May 8th and buy 10 of X puts, X is up way too much for this economy and all tech is going to skyrocket apparently.

>>18764438
>back to work
Do people actually believe 30 million people will just get jobs back? Is that a real thing people think? Please tell me nobody actually believes that? Someone assure me that there are individuals whomst are not so lacking in intellectual ability that they seriously considering the re-employment of 30 million citizen, nearly 10% of the population of the United States, will just be granted positions of employment in a short measure of time span?

Top?

>>18764526
Being a bear is simply patience. Are the companies on the market good companies? Yes. Are they overvalued? Yes.

thoughts on buying C right now? looks like a good buy

>>18764526
It's +.38 at the time of this post

>>18764537
>>18764502
have fun with your $20 oil in 5 years.

>>18764553
They won't lmao look at Wuhan China shit has not recovered at all months later

>>18764526
Just lurking in more dump money to short the market.

>>18764563
Have fun missing out on profits while you stubbornly wait for the market to do what you want. I'll play the market up and play the market going down.

>>18764549
>X is up way too much for this economy
Both X and NUE are both expected to boom because everyone is saying we have to move supply chains out of china.

>>18764525
>SPY up 5.29% this week
>my portfolio is up 7.85% this week

am i the new buffet?

>>18764593
yeah it sucks. I was actually all in on UPRO at the literal bottom of the market and had iron hands. I got out when I thought "wow this rally is really weird. Probably another dump" and I'm still waiting.

However, I have faith that it'll occur.

>>18764563
Patience as your portfolio goes to 0, and you leave money on the table

lol look at those futures traders not believing tomorrow will be green

>>18764497
ur mum is retarded

>>18764606
China is not the only threat to X. Japan and EU, for example.

After listening to the classical music on the TSLA investors call, I've become enlightened and I know understand that I am truly a genius.

>>18764624
we'll see. Unfortunately I'm a bit stubborn in my belief of the market going down.

>>18764625
>>18764583
>>18764526
Thursday has been green for like 6 weeks in a row. It's JPow's signature move. Unemployement comes out and the printer kicks into overdrive

>>18764625
Every day is green for the next 25years.

HAL already at $11.68 pre market, where are my petroleum chads?

>>18764585
I think you are a fool
simple as

>>18764399
>friendly reminder that tanker stocks will continue to go up
At this moment.
They are lower then 2019 values, except for NAT.
Actually, this whole dump of tankers is NAT's fault. Their CEO is an idiot. If he hadn't gone on Crammer all stocks would be rising steadly.

May 20th and WTI will come crushing down again, maybe not to minus, but close enough.

>>18764625
have you not been paying attention? It's been like this for week. 6pm-10pm futures slightly red. Then 12-3 when everyone is asleep, futures huge green. Then in the morning gap up many individual meme stocks

>>18764633
>EU
Germany is the only solid choice but they're too expensive
>Japan
WAY too expensive AND mediocre quality, everything else in the world is a better choice.
Eastern europe could be a good substitute (that's mostly non-EU countries).
In truth, India is the most likely option.

>>18764604
>fear

>>18764625
Kek they will come around eventually. Futures opened flat yesterday and look what happened today. OOOOOOOOO

Anything above 2900 S&P means green sadly..Meanwhile my oil shorts which were up +50% are now at break even level............ FUCK

What the fuck is happening to EDV

Amazon should have decent results, especially looking around recent earnings announced the last few days and really the only place for normies to spend their Trumpbux (although that'll reflect in next qtr)

But it just feels too expensive to go in at this point

SHOULD I BUY SOME MORE CLOROX?!?!

>>18764505
old news and very insubstantial
it was a penny stock microcap right?

>>18764491
when Cramer is bearish it's definitely time to reconsider the bull case.

ESPECIALLY since Tyson is one he BOUGHT in his charitable trust, and he acknowledges it as his second biggest mistake recently. Not as bad as Viacom, worse than GE.

Also, the fucking CEO bought newspaper ad space to announce that the food supply chain was breaking? He can't fix the problem and that's his solution?
BEARISH as fuck, and will not win him any favors from the Trump administration.

>>18764298
>>18764256
good taste

>>18764473
>>18764491
>>18764377

I was watching Cramer yesterday and I heard him mention it but didnt hear a reason?

Can anyone give me a reason to NOT pick Tyson as a buy in this bull market?

>>18764645
Another TSLA $50 put next week buyer chad like myself I see.

>>18764647
>7 posts by this ID
Someone stop this fatty moralfag.

Bought 1080 shares of PLAY at 15.46 today, how fucked am I? I feel like it still has a lot of room for gains at more states reopen

>have no idea what I'm doing and I'm up 15% this week
based?

>>18764692
Because USFD will give you better returns and faster

>>18764664
and i'm just saying they will be wrong and will lose on it is all

>>18764690
>SHOULD I BUY SOME MORE CLOROX?!?!
>that pic
Yes, definitely go buy some Clorox

>>18764633
Just made bank on CLF. People want USA STEEL apparently. Sounds pretty fucking based to me.

>>18764604
>fear
no, that comes later

>>18764707
>tfw could have bought USFD at 7
>Instead went ahead and shorted the bottom
There were two plays I wanted to do. USFD, a couple October 290 Calls and AMD
I did nothing and instead shorted the bottom
JUST
FUCK
MY
SHIT
UP

>>18764548
FRO is up
Maybe because they are the best tanker stock and DON'T have TANKER splashed in their name.

>>18764625
futures and after hour trading were a mistake. literally the easiest thing to manipulate.

>>18764701
>said I didn't like pedos at some point today
>now this guy is following me around saying I'm fat and saying I'm a poster from his screenshots and searching the archive for the pictures I'm posting
what the hell is going on?

>>18764704
depends if you think people would be cautious even after lockdown is lifted

normie alcoholics may rush to have fun though so that would be the bullish view

>>18764750
Agree.

Pre-market is ok though.

Again, what the hell is going on here

hi frens how can I turn $100 into $120?

>>18764750
Yeah kind of bothers me. You can basically just boost or tank the market at will and ruin everything for everyone. At this point with electronic trading, we're just going to have pre and after merge with regular trading hours.

I keep spending my stimulus on dumb shit instead of putting it into stocks, rip

>>18764722
ha ha!
good joke my fellow bitcoin gambler!
give me your address so I can send you a tip :^)

>>18764692
I just did:
>>18764690

>>18764755
Even when i'm not warm, I sleep far better like this nearly all year

>>18764790
nice pick up

>>18764802
lean hog futures

Thanks for the free $800 CCL :)

>>18764827
apu is the best

>>18764750
Luckily you can only manipulate futures and after / per market trading. Right? Lmao. The whole market is manipulated but as long as you play the right side, nobody cares.

Feels good to be 90% MSFT
LMAO

Get the feeling my robinhood account is inaccurate. Did a few sell calls and the stock pumped. If my suspicions are correct at least 1k worth of stuff on my chart is inaccurate but shows it as an unrealized gain even though there's a limit to my gain due to the dumb sell calls i did.

>>18764548
I'm afraid. Put too much into this thinking it was a sure thing.

>>18764857
until clown market grabs you by the balls

>>18764374
Fucking based

oh my god why didnt ibuy rcl and ccl last month? im so retarded

>>18764845
piggy piggy piggy piggy piggy piggy piggy!

>>18764866
Robinhood actually had a money glitch in October with options trading. People were fucking with calls and Robinhood accidentally kept adding the value to their account again and again based on an error.

Maybe you found another one.

>>18764876
Because by FA or TA, it was a bad buy.
But that didn't account for SA: Saudi Analysis

>>18764358
KOTS DONT DRINK COFFEE THIS IS A LIE

>>18764802
AYX 140 5/15. Should take like 2 days

>>18764790
https://twitter.com/LynAldenContact/status/1255266212399009792

>>18764755
Based pedohating chad

>>18764893
nice cope

>>18764755
He's a disgusting pedo nigger

>>18764891
yes frendo
piggies sure are cute huh!

>>18764918
Uh oh looks like the fatty moralfag is using a VPN! Cunny is board culture, newfag.

Who's looking at midstream energy stuff outside of tankers? Pipeline, storage, logistics, etc?

>>18764767
I'm not speculating on their business, I'm just speculating on how economies reopening will affect their share price. I think they're going to have serious trouble avoiding bankruptcy in the coming months but I can see it shooting up to $25/share in the near term. Pre-pandemic value was over $40

>>18764934
weirdo

>>18763068
>>18763068
>>18763068
>>18763068
WTF DID THEY MEAN BY THIS? I HAVE ACCOUNTS WITH BOTH WF AND SCWHAB. AM I FUCKED?

>>18764936
Kill yourself.

Who the fuck is Cramer?

>>18764958
stop being autistic, go play vidya or something

>>18764927
Go back to /pol/ fatty VPN user. Cunny is here to stay

>>18764827
>Even when i'm not warm, I sleep far better like this nearly all year
Probably improved airflow = better breathing and the white noise combined for comfy sleeps.

>>18764964
A tripfag that sometimes posts here. He is well-known for his mad money plays that get him into losses that often exceed 6 figures.

>>18764958
Schwab? Doubt. Wells Fargo? Maybe.

>>18764958
Algos actually scan the news for shit and sometimes groups of people post fake headlines to make them sell. Imagine if an algo catches a whiff of this, even if it's true or false.

Starting to get some severe fomo on CCL
This is bearish

friendly reminder that TA only works if you're listening to drum & based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l4jwHcsgwE

>>18764958
It could also just be a no name credit union and there are probably dozens if not more there.

I need someone to explain options to me real quick. I understand what everything means and I can parse them with no issue. What I don't get is what their purpose is. Earlier today, I was doing some math on various calls on various stocks and I couldn't find a single one where the call option could be more profitable than buying and selling stocks normally regardless of any starting and ending prices. Additionally, they required very large swings to even become equal to buying and selling normally (not the break-even price for the option itself). I assume the same would have been true for puts vs. shorting, though I didn't bother with that.

imagine being a retarded bear

FICO
>FICO
FICO
>FICO
FICO
>FICO

Holy fuck I should've bought when I had the chance. This company is going nowhere, it's going to be around forever.

>>18764958
eh those are my two banks too but I'm not worried. Someone on 4chan tellinng a story where they immediately jumped to conclusions... it'll be okay.

this is the face of the average tanker buyer

>>18765011
That's just a very long-winded way to say that you don't understand shit about options and borderline don't even understand what they are. So here's one hint: seeing recent tanker price action, if you think tankers are going up, you would be stupid to buy tankers outright instead of getting calls.

>>18765011
>what their purpose is
to increase risk and reward through the power of scarcity.

>>18764892
Dont think thats what it is. Cause if i sold all my stocks and closed all my options at current prices i suspect my account would drop in value because some of those "calculated gains" were impossoble to realize due to the sell calls.

>>18765029
>inb4 they cope about some major crash coming sometime in the next decade and how theyre staying cash for that

>>18765011
look at option prices
they arent linear with regard to underlying price
>I did some math
try black scholes you brainlet

>>18765011
They were designed for big players to hedge positions but they are mostly used now by neets to try and turn $50 into 50000 by buying 100 out of the money calls or puts, otherwise known as degen gambling

In spirit of clown market, I'm again going to generate 3 random letters until I get a valid ticker. I'm going to buy whatever comes up. Wish me luck.

>>18764256
Poor Ebay. Beats their earnings and the stocks dump. This market literally punishes good performance.

>>18765029
As much as I like diversification that seems like a load to manage. QQQ is like owning part of amazon anyways. right?

What are we buying tomorrow bull bros?

>>18765080
share whatever you get. i want to buy too

>>18765080
Good luck. Get at least 10 tickers and report back with performance results every so often. Clown or not I also want to see the average proportion of green to red you're getting.

>>18765083
nevermind I retard, it's not in qqq.

Just lmao @ people who think central banks can support the stock market

>>18765080
>Not doing 4 or 5 so you can get Penny Stocks as an option
NO BALLS

>>18765011
Originally designed for hedging investments you can also use them to increase the risk/reward by effectively gambling against the writer.
Right now the swings are so large they are even more lucrative.

>>18765085
GALT, LCI, and/or SAVA

>>18765080
Results.

it's incredible to me that the market could pump so much on literally fake news regarding remdesivir's efficacy. Am I retarded, coping because I missed the bottom, or is Jerome just fucking my ass for the hell of it?

>>18765011
It's like 100x margin. Should be illegal though.

Next couple weeks will be interesting. Don’t be a perma-anything. When we stop rallying on good news....that is when the bear comes back out to play.

>>18765085
make tesla go above $1000 plz

>>18765119
how much you buying?

>>18764790
Bullish as fuck for equities.

>>18765083
I don't need to pay much attention to QQQ, VOO, or Amazon, they'll just keep going up. I'm selling what little KO I have tomorrow morning and I'll probably sell AMD sometime soon.

>>18765101
yes it is, QQQ is 9.6% Amazon

>>18765120
>coping because I missed the bottom
pretty much this

>TSLA now has a P/E
>its over 600
Should just integrate Zoom into the model S for the luxury experience

>>18765120
Bubble are a regular occurrence on the stock market. It's just a thing that happens. The Dotcom bubble is a good example. Ebay and Amazon are good companies but were simply over valued at that time and crashed.

People often end up seeing a company of what it will be in the future and buy at what the future price would be but today because FOMO.

For being a bull trap I sure am making an assload of money.

>>18765155
atleast zoom is slowly fucking dying now
$120 to go

>>18765085
Waiting for PSI earnings to see which way to go on that one. Generally waiting for earnings on everything in my watchlist before I really pick things.

I wanna withdraw money from Robinhood. Are they jews about it or does it usually go through pretty easy?

>>18765103
>they buy etf
>stocks index goes up
Well it's working.

>>18765122
The bear will never leave his cave again

>>18764692
got more of her? :^)

>>18765134
10 shares, bless the clown market.

Is this the last bull trap before the crash?

>>18765029
imagine owning AMD

>>18765176
It's smooth but like any brokerage it takes time depending on if it's cash or stocks. If you're selling stock it takes 2-3 days for the funds to settle from the sale than a few more days for RH to transfer funds to your bank.

i go, with $10k
0-4 short tesla tomorrow
5-9 buy call

>>18765152
Why would you sell coke?

>>18765204
profits incoming

>>18765217
Imagine not owning AMD since $10.

>>18765206
No but last month was the last bear trap of our lives courtesy of the Fed

Hmm, started in fall 2018 just for shits and giggles to invest on my own. So far my average is three wins and 1 loss. I've made money, I've lost money. I've made back money I lost. So overall I'm up. Thanks to events in my favor (virus) and MRO I'm gonna finish out this year with a win and a nice fat baggie stuffed with cash. MRO makes up 30% of my total investment wad.

>>18765120
too much money floating around. the only thing preventing them buying is the hope that the stocks could get lower, not the fear that the stock could get lower.

>>18765221
Thanks bro, here. Have an ellie <3

>>18765245
Do you do a single trade per quarter? What?

>>18765221
I'm missing out on buying shit because if this.

Count those gains before they disappear. Put up those stop losses and don't be greedy and get caught with your pants down like bears.

>>18764653
Thanks I just put myself in for 47 shares of based halicuck. There's no possible way not to make a huge profit off Halliburton right now if you missed the USO train like me.

something is up with MRO. Why does a land discovery/on-shore drilling firm go up as high as it has, while others (ocean/offshore drilling) are fucked?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exxon-freezes-dividend-first-time-204842749.html

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

THE BLOOD IS ABOUT TO FLOW. A DIVIDEND KING DOWN

>>18765234
I have have too much shit, I'd rather have that money in BAM, VOO, or QQQ at this point.

>>18765315
they're not the first and wont be the last to cut divvies from this

>>18765315
so it goes up tomorrow
no biggie

>>18765103
the fed is dangling the carrot for the people to push the cart

>>18765315
>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exxon-freezes-dividend-first-time-204842749.html
Wait, this is actually big.

>>18765306
because ocean rigs are generally expensive as fuck. Average break even for the gulf of mexico is 50/bbl. In parts of the permian, it gets into the low 30s/bbl

>>18765315
Uh oh Oil stocks gonna plummet???

>>18765315
I'm gonna say it

>>18765315
Good. Dividends are cancer. Ban all dividends. They are tax inefficient and trash. These are no longer required in modern economies with stock buybacks that are LITERALLY THE SAME THING but more tax efficient. The only reason dividends still exist is because of sub 100 IQ MUH PASSIVE INCOME dummies that don't realize you can earn the exact same amount of MUH PASSIVE INCOME if you sell a few of the inflated shares. Dividends literally only exist because people are too stupid to understand stock buybacks.

>>18765349
Meh. If it were cvx then it’d be big.

I have literally no clue whether we'll be at DOW 30,000 OR DOW 16,000 by August, and a non-zero chance we hit both

>>18765234
I mean, a kilo of coke can net a phat margin

>>18765011

>What I don't get is what their purpose is

Stock options, as a financial instrument, is a way to hedge against movements in stock price. Let's say at some future date I want to buy TSLA, but not right now, it's trading at $700/share. TLSA is very volatile, to I may want to hedge my purchase buy buying an ITM option @ 700, that way if TSLA goes up I can still execute that purchase. An option for 100 shares of TSLA might be $3000, but if TSLA moves up in a big way, I could save tens of thousands of dolllars.

Options are a derivative, and as such the value of an option swings wildly based on the stocks price (and other factors). Secondary they are used a gambling instrument by 20-something year old traders who wish to win it big.

>earlier today, I was doing some math on various calls on various stocks and I couldn't find a single one where the call option could be more profitable than buying and selling stocks normally regardless of any starting and ending prices

Then your math was wrong. Since you didn't mention Black-Scholes I have to assume you did very naive math. If you bought a share of TSLA today for $700, it would have gone to $900, a gain of almost 10%. However if you had a TSLA 5/15 900c, the value of that option may have jumped anywhere near from 100-150%. That same $700 would now be worth $1400

Remember the value of the option is derived from MORE than just the difference between the option's strike price and the underlying stock price.

>Additionally, they required very large swings to even become equal to buying and selling normally

I think your math is wrong here agian. Try using this https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com/calculator/long-call.html to visualize how an option price changes over time & stock price.

> I assume the same would have been true for puts vs. shorting,

Puts aren't the same as shorting. Shorting is closer to buying/selling a stock, as shorting isn't a derivative.

>>18765315
That’s it I’m gonna short the S&P 500

>>18765146
how so? doesent it mean that people are dumping treasuries to get usd? another usd liquidity crisis in the making? maybe im wrong i dont know shit about bonds

>>18765119
why didnt you post this yesterday asshole, cost me 25%

>>18765370
based

>>18765349
Bullish for XOM

Make OTM SPY calls 15 minutes before market closes, sell at open the next morning. This should double your money 8 out of 10 times. Check the trends if you don’t believe me.
Thank me later

>>18765315
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I JUST SOLD MY FUCKING PUTS AT A LOSS YESTERDAY. $500 DOWN THE FUCKING DRAIN BECAUSE OF MY TISSUE PAPER HANDS

>>18765370
absolutely based

>>18765370
>stock buybacks in order to offset massive management option exercises
if they really wanted to worry about tax issues, they would offer stock-based dividends

>>18765349
No negative reaction in after hours trading. Interesting.

>>18765417
It will rally. Boeing rallied when they dropped their dividend. Amazingly going into debt to pay off shareholders isn’t desirable to investors

>>18765080
Got EUS, DJA, PIZ
Then I did 4:
MFNC, FWRI, and TSOP

Placed an order for EUSA, PIZ, MFNC and TSOP

If you believe in Dubs, you believe in the power of the random number generator.

Now would be the time to get in for max % chance of return

>>18765156
>>18765254
Thanks for the (you)s frens. This is my first time looking at the market during a crisis with some skin in the game and it is really hard to make sense of these movements. I understand bubbles and hopium, but the timing of these "positive" news is just too convenient. I want to get on the bull train full force and I just can't justify it because corona is still real and the safety measures to get people back to work are inadequate. Boomer fundamentals seem to be thrown out of the window, stocks just go up.

>betting against Big Oil
Maybe you faggots should listen to boomers sometimes.

>>18765119
What do they do? Can you buy it yesterday?

>>18765080
I got EMO
I'm doing this too

Tesla Model 3 now qualifies for China subsidy again. Get rekt.

Damn Amazon making gains already at 3670

>>18765446
this isn't the end old man, things with oil were shit even without the virus

>>18765315
>lost dividends weren't priced in
retard alert

what's this pattern called?

there may be something to this...

>>18765370
some forms of dividend count as ROC instead of divvy (see: REITs), which is the most tax-advantageous deal you could ever get. Dividends also strongly stabilize stock price meaning you reduce significantly the risk while maintaining virtually the exact same upside. Finally, if a dip like right now happens, the divvy amount you get will easily beat the market twice over while remaining fully passive. Divvies are your friend.

>>18764256
So I already made calls. What are some good stocks to short? I'm thinking of shorting gamestop. Is that a good idea or am I being a nigger

>>18765446
Tankers are the thinking man's oil short. They'll go down if oil recovers, but they're still okay companies with okay dividends even at January 2020 levels. And the upside is enormous if they make big money and maintain the payout rate.

>>18765260
Well most of my portfolio is for long term wealth creation. So I don't mess with it much other than to load up more when dips happen. (After getting over the initial "hey this is awesome,lets try this" spell in fall 2018, I got serious with it). The 30% that's in MRO (well 37% now) is for short term gains to beef up my emergency fund with and to make my long positions cost me zero investment wise.

>>18765415
Who is cuter?

>>18765511
USO

>>18764740
You can still get in

>>18765442
bullshit, BP took out loans specifically to pay dividends. how did they do today?

>>18765519
So you invest instead of trading. What a waste!

>>18765315
bullish

>>18765512
>but they're still okay companies with okay dividends even at January 2020 levels
These tankers rarely pay dividends except for situations like this. They are also run by scumlords. The second the reserves start being burned through you sell it all.

>>18765315
>The freeze may not derail Exxon’s multi decade streak of annual increases. Even if the company maintains quarterly payouts at the current level for the rest of 2020, the annual outlay will be $3.48 a share, or 1.5% above 2019.
we'll be back

>>18765315
P

>>18765549
this guy gets it, unironically

>>18765476

No, too big to fail is priced in and this is just the first crack. Guess you forgot they were "committed to the dividend" less than a month ago before negative oil. Or that Exxon is a dividend aristocrat

Elon just gave it away by saying battery investor day could be in Texas. This likely means that Texas has been selected for the new gigafactory.

>>18765524
Look at that face and you tell me. She looks inbred. Belle is way better

I retired as a bear I'm now BULLISH as fuck.

>inb4 massive dump

Lmao so when is someone going to point out the fact that TSLA cooked books via 10-K amendments?

i didn't buy amazon or tesla stock during the dip

>>18764653
it is insane. what was it? two weeks ago you could buy them for 6.5?

When should i sell?

holy fuck, MRO at 6.28 in after hrs. I'm so happy for Thursday.

>>18765589
boca chica was selected where space x owns large swaths of land, you heard it here first.

>>18765603
It was mentioned in this thread or the last one. You're not the first to notice. It also doesn't matter for short term. Will be bright green tomorrow.

>>18765598
>Look at that face and you tell me
I think she is cuter

>>18765589
Integration with Boca Chica? We already know Starship and Cybertruck share a steel grade.

>>18765540
BPs rally today had nothing to do with their dividend.

>>18765315
>up 3% after hours
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18765632
>flatter
>fatter
>nonwhite
next

getting paid on the 31'st and I still have some money left. What should I spend $8K on?

>>18765604
We can still buy

>>18765577
Dubbles but I bet you’re wrong... i bet it rallies tomorrow.
>>18765524
>>18765415
Hard to tell when I can’t see their buttholes.

>>18765555
>Checked
Also, pure fucking hopium LMAO

>>18765652
TSLA, apparently.

>>18765383
You gonna start building a pastebin? If you’re going to put in the effort, might be nice to have something to copypasta in the thread when noobs don’t do any research

UHHHH BULLBROS... TWITTER BOOMERS ARE SAYING WE'RE ABOUT TO CRASH AGAIN AND I AM LITERALLY SHAKING

>>18765616
>>18765633
Boca Chica is too far out of the way, which works well for launching rockets but not so well for large factories. I'm guessing that it will be around the Austin area so they can please their employees and their families.

I was fortunate enough to FOMO into a few TSLA shares at $475, I can't see them going much higher than they are right now. Should I sell a few shares tomorrow and pick up like some depressed oil/natural gas companies instead?

I thought food producers would be safest in this kind of pandemic style scenario but even a bunch of those are being shut down over this thing. Is it logistics or supply chain companies?

>>18765555
holy quads I'm in!

>>18765687
on the 31st? that's like 1 share by then

>>18765315
this is our time tankerbros

>>18765648
>flat
Belle is flat, too
>fatter
Lol both thin
>nonwhite
Skinis white

>>18765415
That'll work great until the day you get assigned and lose all the gains you've made in the past year and also owe a few millions on top.

>>18765693
wow

>>18765706
USFD all the way baybeeeeee

>>18765700
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! JPOW SAVE US

>>18765693

based tatianna

>181.5 break even on MSFT

>>18765011
>>18765383
Anon above me mentioned you did some naive math to arrive at this conclusion, I'm not sure I agree with that. Let take an example from my position, I bought in NAT $10 call 5/15 at $0.8 per share (I know I'm retarded). To keep this simple I wont consider the implied volatility and say the stock is at the strike price $10.80. Now if NAT moves up by 1 point I'll earn $1 for every $10.80 purely from stock. You see with option I'll earn $1 for every $0.8 you see, so it's not exactly linear

kek how do i short death?

>>18765700
What does this mean?

>>18765700
Who cares. Quit spreading fud

>>18765739
>>18765723
>>18765693
Hes so fucking good at what he does, I hope they never close that account.

>>18765652
Lottery tickets

>>18765779
>>18765779
>>18765779
new

>>18764790
Selling off treasuries to buy stonks like I did today

>>18765766
Bonds are safer than stocks, when the market does badly, money flows back into bonds. If you compare say SPY and IEF, there is a pretty close (inverse) correlation. Now there is a divergence, stocks going one way and bond yield going the other.

What does it mean? I have no clue. What do the boomers think it means? More capital is flowing into safe bonds rather than riskier stocks.

>>18765773
Nah I want to know because I want to buy

>>18765757
why didn't you buy these contracts at 20 cents today instead of at 80 cents

Am I just stupid that options confuse the shit out of me? Is there a site that explains it? The explanations Ive seen already assume you know the terminology so I end up at a loss anyway.

What tanker stocks are you guys in on?

From my research DHT, FRO and TK will be the most profitable. Why the hype around NAT?

>>18765786
the image says high yeld which is junk bonds...

>>18765825
Oh, then that just means the Fed has throttled back on slurping them up.

>>18765814
the best way to learn is buy doing it. buy a cheap 2 cent option with money you can afford to lose and watch what happens.

>>18765778
fukin died at social construct

>>18765786
That hasn't been true in a long time. Even excluding BRRR memes, bonds have about 1% (or less) interest rates (far below inflation). Even municipal bonds are below 2% now on average.

>>18765786
But Ray Daliorino said you shouldn't buy bonds

>>18765652
>31st of April
Wut

>>18765804
because I bought them at opening when NAT was at $8 yesterday

Why would anyone get an option out of the money? Is their a way it doesn’t result in a loss? Why are you even allowed to buy calls that are higher than the current market price?

>>18765834
That might mean that capital will flow out of stocks into high yield bonds again?

>>18765845
>>18765844
It's not really retail who is buying bonds, at least that is my understanding

>>18765887
I don't think so, it's just that the Fed stopped buying.

HOLY SHIT A BEAR MARKET JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE!

>>18765875
To hedge? Like paying an insurance maybe.

>>18765931
Okay, I follow IntheMoney and he says that nobody ever does that tho

New Thread, brothers
>>18765946
>>18765946
>>18765946

>>18765911
But when the Fed buys all bonds this makes riskier assets like stocks more attractive? So when the Fed stops buying bonds stocks lose? It's just me trying to make sense.

>>18765820
I've got calls for FRO, DHT and TNP. I like TK a lot too though, but TNP made a better impression. I think it's better positioned to really maximize the profits from this oil surplus while the others are partially occupied on lower rates than they could have gotten.

>>18765949
oh nevermind. there's already one up. Finna delete my thread

>>18765948
Is this guy even 18?

>>18765982
i love cunny, bro

>>18765911
In my opinion it's because junk bonds are the only ones giving sufficient yield to overcome inflation, but obviously they're not a safe investment. If there is large junk bond buy volume, it means lack of trust in stock as a stable investment vehicle I think.

>>18765948
Congrats on being clinically retarded I guess.

>>18765988
I'd recommend against that.

>>18765577
they are paying the divi? they are just not raising it as far as i understand.

>>18765778
hopefully a really good troll?
god i hope people aren't this dumb

>>18765875
the relationship usually is that buyers bet on market trend and sellers sell out of money options to retards with no common sense

>>18766031
Just google the name, its not a person that exists in the traditional sense.

>>18765011
> I did some math
Go ahead and post that math, I need a chuckle

Should I sell WLL?