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>be talking to friend
>btc OG mined tons of them years ago
>will never work another day in his life
>tells me he's buying faketoshi vision now
>has been converting his stack for months

What should I do? The guy is really smart but I think he's on the dark side now

>> No.18681632

cool story greg

>> No.18681654

>>18681564
Just buy Vanguard ETF bro. Forget about your friend. He's a bad man

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>>18681564

>> No.18681795

>>18681564
Yeah well, he is not the only one Redpilled

>> No.18681949

>>18681564
My stack is now 42 BTC and 1000 BSV. Curious to see what happens...

>> No.18681965

>>18681564
false flagging faggot

>> No.18681969

>>18681949
lying piece of shit

>> No.18681982

500k link 80btc and 200bsv here

I only bought in case csw is right

He seems crazy but his claims about how laws will interact with blockchains make sense

>> No.18681993

>cool story, "bro"

>> No.18682020

>>18681949
>>18681982
Why do you still live in India then?

>> No.18682037

>>18682020
still waiting for link to moon so my real life can start

>> No.18682117
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Join us.

>> No.18682204

>>18681564
nothing
he's not really smart, a lot of early crypto adopters just lucked out and confused luck with genius. If they continue to invest they are going to lose money.

>> No.18682223

>>18681982
my dad works at faketoshi's and said he received 100 coins as a quarantine bonus

>> No.18682237

>>18681949
>>18681982

What convinced you? Is anything actually being built on bsv? I only know twetch and money button

>> No.18682446

>>18681982
Yeah same here. CSW seems too smart and Calvin backs him. Calvin always wins.

>> No.18682460

>>18681969
I suppose I could prove it? Not really sure why I would though...

>> No.18682497

>>18682237
Honestly, it was Calvin Ayre who convinced me. I got into bitcoin through promoting Bodog and a few other brands...

>> No.18682567

>>18682237
I don't know shit about bsv

When you have 500k link and 80btc it's easier to just throw money at bsv because "maybe it will happen" than it is to actually think about it and decide it's worth doing

I don't know what is going on with bsv, it could be a scam

But I have so much invested in BTC and link that I cannot afford to be wrong about bsv

So I can try to do endless research to prove that bsv is shit and a scam

Or I can just buy a little bsv

>> No.18682644

>>18682567
>I don't know what is going on with bsv, it could be a scam

I would think it's probably a scam but he convinced some Bitcoin og that he signed some important thing with satoshi's keys, he is right imo that BTC will not avoid government control, just government money printing, that a public ledger will end real crime

>> No.18683093

>>18682567
why would you pay for a nonscaling ERC20 token? short term gains?

>> No.18683145

>>18681564
>he's on the dark side now
#resist crag blight

>> No.18683148

>>18681564
he is not that smart if he buys into calvins bullshit

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>>18682020
>India

>> No.18683191

>>18682567
bchsv in itself is not a scam its misguided and will never get the adoption that the shills rave about the scam part is when they say its the real bitcoin. that's the real bullshit they try to snare gullible retards with to dump on.

>> No.18683211

>>18683191
>bchsv
Someday everyone will post this with you. You jusy gotta keep trying :)

>> No.18683509
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>>18683191
why does bsv work a lot better than btc?
>faster
>cheaper
>legal
>immune to halvening subsidies

>> No.18683537

economist2020; SBI

>> No.18683546

>>18683211
it is what it is. also it's the original ticker too.

>> No.18683564

>>18683509
the bch forks are pretty immune to death spiral chain death that's true but the price was too high, they had to abandon the nakamoto consensus.

>> No.18683606

>>18681564
Does he have a red dot on his forehead?

>> No.18683682

>>18683546
You got it, bro! Everybody calls it bchsv!

>> No.18684094

>>18681564
your friend was almost on the verge of asking you: "would you buy some BSV from me?"

>> No.18684133

>>18684094
kek

>> No.18684148

>>18683176
You smell like shit Ramesh

>> No.18684170

>>18681564
Ill have a 10k stack of bsv just in case

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>>18681965
>>18681969
>>18682020
My stack of BTC/BCH/BSV is even bigger than >>18681949. U mad, faggot?
The truth is nobody knows exactly which of the three major ledger forks will win the final prize of being the rails for Human Civilization 2.0, and anyone who is not at least partially diversified across the three major bitcoin ledger forks and maybe ETH is a bad investor.

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>>18681564
All BitCoin OGs are BSV maximalists. Myself included. The only retards left in BTC are 2017 latecomer idiots
>muh gold 2.0
>muh stock 2 flow
>muh 1 megabyte blocks

>> No.18684933

>>18682460
it's very easy to sign a message
but you won't do it, because you're larping

>> No.18685100

>>18684575
This. The reasoning of Bitcoin OGs going BSV maxis is the real mistery find out why and act accordingly. Yes, some really were fuck lucky and others are true geniuses...

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I'm not an early adopter, late 2017, but I'm almost all in BSV ~80%.
Rest is LINK and XCM.
Just listen to the talks he does on coingeek etc.
Wether he's satoshi is irrelavant to me.

>> No.18685249

>>18681564
I see bitshit v threads I hide bitshit v threads.

>> No.18685499

>>18684575
>>18685100
it's bullshit of course. retarded craiglet memery.

>> No.18685566

>>18685499
at current prices you have to be more than 97.5% certain of that

>> No.18685610

>>18684933
>showing everyone your holdings

>> No.18685644

>>18685610
not really dumbass, you see, an address is not tied to any identity, it's just letters and numbers

>> No.18685970

>>18685566
i am

>> No.18685982

>>18685644
also can use an old address with no funds on it anymore

>> No.18686045

>>18685644
And all activity will be tied to the shitposter and his account he posted on 4chan you absolute dimwit.

>> No.18686277

>>18686045
rofl pathetic larps always rant about muh safety. i been signing quiet a few times on this board. for example there was a fag that tried to larp with my wallet address.
>>/biz/thread/S14054942#p14056169
now come on tell me my name my btc holdings which address of mine that 0.1 btc resides currently (yes it is still in my possession among others) go on it's all on the blockchain right? you fucking imbecile!

>> No.18686376

>>18681564
this is a bad shill and you should feel sad
you fucking excrementable and lamentable pajeet

>> No.18686683

>>18686277
Holy shit u mad. Go ahead and be reckless with your privacy. The most I've done on here was pay someone bitcoin to make a meme.

>> No.18686716

>>18686683
holy shit my ass there is no real information you can glean from a signature and you can prove me wrong by digging into that one.
if you can tell me just one other address with funds i have control of i will consider what you are whining about here.

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>>18686277
>Post signed message using an address with more than 100 BTC or shut the fuck up, you faggot.

>> No.18686789

>>18686716
Tell that to all the people busted already by analysis.

Fuckin glownigger shill

>> No.18686795

>>18686716
tf are you talking about? I never said you could discover someone's identity from a signature. I clearly was talking about attaching an address to a shitpost. From there if someone was so inclined, they could watch your transactions. Depending on what you do in those transactions you could reveal personal information. ffs

>> No.18686799

>>18686778
go on... i accept an address that only had funds in the past also.

>> No.18686834

>>18686716
>>18686799
You are a fucking moron and don't deserve to be spoonfed, but I will anyway because other anons who don't know any better deserve to know.
Anyone on here who hopes to use a substantial amount of bitcoin to do something meaningful in the future should know that that may not be possible if the coin are tied back to an anon account (i.e., an IP address) on 4chan. There are many implications there that are not that hard to figure out if you are not a complete idiot.

>> No.18686850

>>18686834
that's bollocks nobody could prove shit and it would take a 3 letter org to even begin to make guesses about relationships between wallets. but then again guessing and proving is not the same thing.

>> No.18686876

>>18686834
>anon account (i.e., an IP address)
oh boy this cracked me up good tho

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>>18686850

>> No.18686900

>>18686876
btw i'm >>18685499 and i have had thousands of "anon accounts" and hundreds of bitcoin wallets.

>> No.18686913

>>18686850
>>18686834
>>18686716

Fuck public blockchains

Balances are nobody else's business whether easy to trace or not, they ARE TRACEABLE

>> No.18686964

>>18686913
blah blah blah again, trace my coins go on...
i got about 24 active addresses and some change if you can find one, i will consider your bullshit.

>> No.18687084

>>18686964
Do I need to list all the articles where people have been taced ?

My point stands, PUBLIC CHAINS ARE TRACEABLE

I'm not going to waste resources to trace some random fuckwad on 4chan.

People have already been traced, if that's not enough proof for you then you have some mental dumbass problem.

Get help.

>> No.18687272

>>18687084
>People have already been traced
and i'm telling you you can' trace me or anyone that know his shit. on-chain analysis is extremely limited and determining a tx was a sell event or a structuring transfer between the same owners wallets wallets is a wild guess at each hop with absolutely no way to prove it. then we have coin join protocol and dexes if i really wanted to throw a scent off and not just practicing the most basic precautions.

>> No.18687692

>>18684215
>The truth is nobody knows exactly which of the three major ledger forks will win the final prize of being the rails for Human Civilization 2.0
Only the version that scales has any chance.

That leaves one - BSV.

>> No.18687825

>>18686045
what account you fucking retarded nigger?
this is an anonymous image board
are you high on crack?

>> No.18687863

Craig:
>anonymity is the shield of cowards
BSV LARPers who don't want to expose the fact that they have 0 BSV:
>I cAn'T sIgN a MeSsAgE bCauSE iT wILL eXpOsE mY 4ChAn aCcOuNt (???) !!!

choose now cucks
you either sign from an address with your BSV
OR
you are all bounty spammer LARPers who don't own a single fucking sat of BSV

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>>18687863
>He doesn't understand the difference between anonymity and privacy

>> No.18687974

>>18684575
true. there's a reason oldfags like bsv. it reminds us of the early bitcoin excitement.

>> No.18688063

>>18687825
I meant his address, you fucking autist.

>> No.18688371

http://craiged.com/

>> No.18689634

What did she mean by this you cattle and suckers
https://youtu.be/uvmHE900am4

>> No.18691104

>>18689634
Who the fuck is she?

>> No.18691172

>>18681564
So is bsv on such a rinky dink level that I could still mine them with my PC?

>> No.18691189

>>18681564
I have a stack of 500 btc and I sold it all for bsv
I also smell like curry

>> No.18691198

>>18691189
is it only smelly poos on twetch?

>> No.18692198

>>18687863
My 1000 BSV is all sitting in my Coinsquare account. I wish there was something like a Trezor that supports BSV. I'd feel better not having on an exchange.

>> No.18692250

>>18681564
i thought you guys gave up on this scam

>> No.18692261

>>18691104
https://hackernoon.com/bitcoin-belles-ccme-the-woman-who-brought-you-craig-satoshi-wright-strikes-again-f74e4ef129a4

>> No.18692330

>>18692198
>I'm in BSV for the tech
>Wallet? Never heard of it

>> No.18692359

>>18692330
kek

>>18692198
use an old phone disconnected from the internet forever with simply cash or equiv, write your words down and put them somewhere safe and use your offline phone for signature signing and your current phone as a watching wallet

>> No.18692452

>>18692330
No, I was forced into crypto when some of my clients started paying me in crypto back in 2015. Since I didn't really need that income, I kept it as BTC and accumulated a pretty decent stack. The first time it hit $10k I sold half and paid off everything with a little left over.

>>18692359
Thanks, but what about https://www.ellipal.com/? I just checked out the bsv reddit and found that...

>> No.18692490

>>18692452
if you don't want people who are unironically in it for the tech to laugh at you (even though they already do because you're invested in a scam) use https://electrumsv.io/

>> No.18692531

>>18692490
>https://electrumsv.io/
Really? That's a terrible-looking website. If my guys turned something out that looked like that I'd be pissed LOL

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>>18692531
small-mid sized open source projects are supposed to have shit website
if that's not the case you're getting scammed

I'm done helping bsv tards

>> No.18692784

>>18692531
electrum is a fork of one of the oldest wallets going around. It isn't pretty but it can do many things

simplycash is fine, never heard of that link you shared.

handcash smooth but trade-off is you only get to protect half of your key, handcash protects the other half

>> No.18692846

>>18682237

Unisot, smart contracts, encrypted messaging only readable with your PKs. Read up on public key cryptography.

>> No.18692884

>>18684215

High IQ post.

I doubt BTC still has a real chance, but not owning BCH and BSV is just stupid.

>> No.18693251

>>18681564
Your friend is right, OP. Just let go of Bitcoin Core. It's ok if you keep your BTC but just don't put anymore money or effort into it. Blockstream suffocates every attempt of serious progress since years. Satoshi is a big-blocker, btw. Bitcoin Satoshi's Vision is where the real interesting stuff happens and you can actually use it as electronic cash. Replace By Fee is gaping security whole that makes double spending attacks piss easy, that's why the BSV guys, many of them former BTC developers, by the way, have removed it.

If you'd like to look further, just listen to this show here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt1Rt4aPWKM

Dude actually bothered whether BTC has a real use case and after digging through the shit of this 'community' he came to the conclusion that BSV is the way to go. He also thinks that Craig Wright is a fraud for claiming to be Satoshi but that doesn't necessarily says anything about BSV's legitness.

>> No.18693890

Bump

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>ode to beethoven
beethoven is nickname for btc used by russians
>SBI
check this
>https://insidebitcoins.com/news/sbi-crypto-experiences-surge-in-bitcoin-sv-shares-amid-bsv-halving/257553

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>>18681564
>https://craigwright.net/blog/law-regulation/the-history-of-freezing-in-bitcoin/

Nobody wants crypto that can be frozen or controlled like that.

That's not the premise that crypto stands for.

Public opinion matters, this shitcoin is no better than just staying with a bank.

>> No.18694741

>>18693251
Good interview, thank you.

>> No.18694838

>>18693251
>He also thinks that Craig Wright is a fraud for claiming to be Satoshi

https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/satoshi-van-saberhagen.html

What crypto was meant to be and what people want.

>> No.18694883

>>18694741
You're welcome, m8.

>>18694838
Is this satire?

>> No.18694958

>>18694838
congrats, you're an april fool

>> No.18695013

>>18694838
monero peeps actually pretty based

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>>18693961
>That's not the premise that crypto stands for.
>People don't want laws.
Okay, zoomer.

>> No.18695060

>>18695014
Omg you people are dumb

People wanting laws =/= People wanting a FUNGIBLE currency

>> No.18695192

>>18681564
there's at least a dozen of bitcoin, all doing politics and pretending to be the one

the top currency will not have Bitcoin in it's name, it's not a banker coin and not staking coin. Also, it can be mined for free, that's the tip you get.

>> No.18695227

>>18695192
You can't mine shit for free, you fraud. You need to pay for electricity for that.

>> No.18695268

>>18695227
>thinking it's PoW
>2020
that boat has sailed boomer

>> No.18695281

>https://web.getmonero.org/resources/moneropedia/fungibility.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKNK_mM_P0s

>> No.18695397

>>18693961
Is that actually implemented in BSV? How does freezing Bitcoins actually work?

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>>18695397
You need a court order in the country where the mining gear is located. If you're a miner and you really think the court order is bullsh%t, you move your gear. BSV is as "decentralized" as the next best thing, retards. Also, imagine thinking courts will freeze BitCoin for every $500 drug deal. Freezing orders will be for major offences, e.g. kiddie porn rings, ISIS funding etc because of the legal costs involved and because of the required scale to reach such verdicts.

>> No.18696269

>>18696160
I think they would just freeze the adresses and then investigate all the adresses that are linked to it

>> No.18696388

>>18696269
You still need miners to cooperate with that. A lot of miners are huge cucks, however, as evidenced by the existence of all SHA-256 chains that are not BSV. But I still think they would be eager to follow minor freezing verdicts as long as they could. That's what I would do, fuck some laws meant solely to harass people.

>> No.18696401

>>18681654
This. Just buy ETFs and tech stocks. Why would you bet against the Jewish world order?

>> No.18696407

>>18696388
Eager = hesitant

>> No.18696469

>>18695397
>lack of fungibility means that certain businesses will be obligated to avoid accepting BTC that have been previously used for purposes which are illegal, or simply run afoul of their Terms of Service. Currently some large Bitcoin companies are blocking, suspending, or closing accounts that have received Bitcoin used in online gambling or other purposes deemed unsavory by said companies.

>> No.18696488

>>18696469
The same goes for any of these other surveillanced public chains.

>> No.18696638

>>18695397
it would work like this
>https://www.coindesk.com/binance-may-consider-bitcoin-rollback-following-40-million-hack

>> No.18696979

>>18696160
not only that but for a roll back to be possible the court order needs to arrive within a few hours which is unrealistic as fuck we would be talking about days or weeks at the pace of the courts. after that the compromised miners will be too disadvantaged to be able to do it.

>> No.18697226

>>18696979
you dont roll back. you just dont accept the signature to move it forward..... miners will be ordered not to include a transaction. the coins would effectively be removed from supply. meaning number goes up for everybody else.

>> No.18698015

>>18697226
>you dont roll back. you just dont accept the signature to move it forward...
pointless the illicit funds will have been spent/moved a 1000 times by then. from miner fees to honest services trying to freeze the coins would do more harm than any percieved moralfag good.