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18628815 No.18628815 [Reply] [Original]

Hey fellows, your resident spoonfeeder here.
We've come so far so I won't force you to put anything together this time, I'm just going to give it up:

In May (previously in anticipation of the smartcontract summit) the public, decentralized Chainlink network will begin to merge with the private, permissioned smartcontract network. This will allow the private network access to inexpensive contract execution through arbitrum/chainlink nodes and will also allow them access to always on/always reliable pricing data that is needed to make those smart contracts dynamic.

Know how there have always been hints of "decentralizing" the network with good initial launch volume? That's what's going to be in the cards from May forward. Specifically every node will have a baseline contract volume by simply being a contract executor plus whatever additional value they bring by supplying price feeds and API access.

Obviously it will be far better to be a bank running a node and getting a juicy fee every time a contract makes a bank payment or checks a balance, but that will be the little secret of SWIFTs members while they roll out the "open banking" banner. The good news is even your NEET nodes will have baseline contract volumes even if you don't supply a single bit of data.

I know you want this to be a singularity. Maybe it will be (if people in the crypto market are smart enough to understand what merging the networks really means) or more likely you'll see a series of sharp upticks as "smart" investors figure it out and feverishly buy in once the first public estimates of contract volumes and node returns hit private groups, then paid media sources then public media.

Either way, from May forward 2020 is going to be the definition of fun. Take the crypto mania of the prior bullrun and add "business" and "commodity" investors joining the party because they'll finally have to swallow their pride...

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Comfy AF

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>definition of fun
time to sell

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>>18628815

Based, thanks friend.

>> No.18628899

this is going to be asuka prophecy

>> No.18628913

>>18628815

Q1 2021

>> No.18628916

>>18628815
You (more accurately the smartcontract team) have done the time. The rest of this year is going to be the euphoric rush of doing the crime of actually changing the world for the better by removing negative value intermediaries while at the same time getting criminally, stupidly rich.

Just don't forget who brought you there. The team behind Chainlink is not only the best team in crypto, they're the best team globally in the entirety of business, finance and tech. They took a nascent eclectic tech and made the powers that be understand it and then built a custom solution that not only allowed a high degree of trust and not only allowed the execution volumes needed for a real smart contract economy but also worked with a million backward, archaic legacy systems that couldn't change. If you've ever done anything world-changing hard you'll understand what kind of work this takes. If you haven't, you can't understand but you should swallow your pride and show gratitude for those who did.

We're all in this together

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>>18628815
You arent lying right anon?

You are a real insider right anon?

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>>18628815
I can feel this one in my balls. Thanks, anon.

>> No.18628997

>>18628815
>>18628916

Based AF.

Anon, I’ve got a significant amount. Top 200 in current ethplorer holders.
How can a lucky burger dumbass like me
Take advantage of node returns early?

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>>18628815
>>18628916

>> No.18629041

>>18628815
God, what a normie thread. With 2017 breadcrums that never happened, even worse, I'm out

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>>18628815
thanks baste fren, ive been needin some fun during these dark times

please come play again soon

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>>18628916
Based anon, how do you know all this?

>> No.18629097

>>18628815
What’s a realistic price in the next two years senpai

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>>18628815
>>18628916
Based anon you've been here for a long time spoonfeeding us. Thanks to you and the team for your efforts. If we change the world for the better that's more thanks than anyone could give

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>>18629029
It's real!!

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Yay I simultaneously believe this and think it’s bullshit. It’s all so tiresome

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>>18628815

here let me spoonfeed you OP:

scam coin thread

sage

>> No.18629305

>>18628815
You can have me if you like, Overton.

>> No.18629367

>>18628815
I'm pretty sure that I've browsed every thread created by you since 2017. You have not only given me the chance to create wealth but something more valuable than money, you have given me hope. We are all in this together. See you in the yatch party

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>>18628815
When do you think staking will be? I’m guessing it’s somewhere near pic related?

>> No.18629393

Even if you're right, I wish LARPers would leave price action predictions out of it. Literally nobody knows what the price will do in relation to anything.

>> No.18629409

>>18628815
Johnny rims horses

>> No.18629429

>>18629393
He didnt predict any prices desu

>> No.18629433

>>18629367
Which old spoonfeeder is this?

>> No.18629459

>>18629391
check the pivotal, earliest im guessing is 9 months, but i seriously doubt steak will come this year anon.

25k link holder since 2017

>> No.18629525

>>18628916
thank you serger

>> No.18629544

>>18629166
>>18629029
Imagine thinking he's talking about the price singularity, not the normie meme buzzword

>> No.18629548

>>18628924
Im the guy behind a lot of the screenshots that get thrown around here but not an insider by any means. I've been decently good at reading the project's direction thus far. I had suspected this seeing what they were working on publicly code wise. Seeing the arbitrum announcement (the importance of which can't be overstated) and then the rebranding of smartcontract to explicitly be the team that develops chainlink made me confident enough to post this.

>>18628959
If your balls are happy so am i

>>18628997
Honestly it's going to be hard early on without something like linkpool. At the end of the day the SC team knows where their bread is buttered and the public side of the network is really only needed for extreme reliability price data right now. Long term you're going to be in great shape but they would be fools to let this critical part of the network's progress be dependent on anyone other than professional admins who know how to run high uptime stuff and validate for other chains.

>>18629029
Wow. Full disclosure I had no idea about this but it does kind of fall in line. I've never met Ian Keane but I was actually hoping to at the now cancelled smartcontract summit.

>>18629063
Always fun being here

>>18629097
Gonna depend on how crypto investors respond to actually hard bullish fundamentals. Your guess is as good as mine.

>>18629305
Not sure who that is

>>18629367
Glad you were here with me, looking forward to the future as well.

>>18629391
This one I think will be later than you think- remember what we know about staking. The original staking will be only slashing for non return of data or contract execution. This implies allowing non-verified nodes into the network, which will by definition crash the cost per contract execution (which every node will be able to do). I don't see this happening immediately but I could be wrong.

>> No.18629554

>>18629459
Some anon mentioned staking will be live around 0.9.0 release. Idk if that’s true or not

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>>18628916
>removing negative value intermediaries while at the same time getting criminally, stupidly rich.
The best part of running a node to help automate financial services is putting Wall Street on unemployment. Feels great, man.

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>>18629562
dont forget about (((lawyers))) best part for me

>> No.18629658

>>18629548
Got any thoughts on unibright? Thinking of either buying unibright, or link. The problem i have is that by buying link i will increase my stack for less than 10%...

>> No.18629662

>>18629548
>Gonna depend on how crypto investors respond to actually hard bullish fundamentals.

So it'll dump to 65 cents. Crypto traders are actual literal brainlets.

>> No.18629665

>>18628815
Based

No wonder whales bought the bottom during the March Crash.

>> No.18629714

>>18629548
That's fine anon, you can have me too. You deserve it.

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>>18629562
>>18629633
They can always learn to code

>> No.18629727

>>18628815
IT IS LITERALLY DUMPING RIGHT NOW

>> No.18629830

>>18629433
It really doesn't matter who I am, some will recognize me others not. Biz is a place where ideas stand on their own so you should have the exact same high bar and cynicism for this thread as for all others. Feel free to tell me to die drowning in monkey cum for good measure.

>>18629459
This I really don't know about- looking at how the team has worked through various bugs I'd think they could implement staking and slashing specifically for node nonresponse easily. For various data parameters this could be harder, but that won't be the model at launch. I don't think its a matter of coding work, its a matter of when they want to allow any randomness into their launch.

>>18629525
Not Sergey, haven't even really met him but I would like to.

>>18629562
It is an itch I think the whole world will enjoy scratching.

>>18629633
Scratch scratch scratch

>>18629658
I didn't buy UBT for the same reason I sold my quantstamp- I don't see decentralization as core to it's value case and I can see their manual processes competing with their network effect. This one I'm honestly not sure about either because some of the big dogs seem pretty enamored with their team/project which makes me doubt my assessment.

>>18629662
This is possible. Unlikely, but in crypto anything is possible.

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>>18629727
yea dumping in reverse

>> No.18629858

>>18628815
Hey fren
Are 3000 LINK enough to make it?
I want to kms because I am so poor

>> No.18629870

>>18629830
since you're spoonfeeding, walk a brainlet through the likely sequence of events as a result of the merger

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>>18629548
>>18629459
Also then what would be the point of chainlink integration for oracle if staking isn’t live?

>> No.18629933

>>18629830
Whalekiller?

>> No.18629944

>>18628916
Do you guys ever find it strange that computer code as we know it has existed in its current state for around 50 years and a small group of human beings, using that same code, are just now solving this conundrum that will ultimately change finance forever?

>> No.18629953

>>18628815
Link eoy?

>> No.18629976

>>18629830
>>18629662
>This is possible. Unlikely, but in crypto anything is possible.
Yeah i hope it does. Ill buy so much more!

>> No.18629980

>>18629858
Dumping over 10k at current price into a project that is, with respect, still in its infancy isn't something to downplay. Before you cry yourself to sleep consider where link can and probably will go along with the fact that most people have no where near that much money just lying around to invest in an internet meme token.

>> No.18629998

>>18629944
Its been their plan for a long time now

Big man is their chosen one

>> No.18630003

>>18629980
Unironically this.

>> No.18630020

>>18629459
Considering they surprised with such things as mixicles and other tech im assuming their is a private repository other then what we are seeing on the pivotal.

Staking could potentially be completed but they have thier own timeline for various reasons. One such a reason is ETH 2.0. As they alluded to before why launch something on a network you know will change. It doesn't make sense for them to do it until ETH 2.0 is out and running smoothly.

>> No.18630038

>>18629849
now that is definitely a man

>> No.18630088

>>18629858
Depends on your time preference and the team's performance going forward. They've been pretty damn effective so far.

>>18629870
All guesses:
- Release of many new price feeds needed for corporate contracts
- Announcement of merger
- Pilots moving contract executions onto CL nodes running arbitrum and off the private SC networks
- Slow transition of nearly all contract execution volume and cross chain events triggering/monitoring to CL nodes
- Continued addition and opening of API access and more critical data sources
- Tiered onboarding of non-KYC nodes (you get to just run arbitrum for 6 months and if you have >99.99% uptime and no malicious behavior, the other nodes can allow you to start providing data etc. Maybe staking at this time?
- Slow transition of the network from KYC/validated only to true decentralization. Bear in mind the highest value nodes will still be the oldest ones with the highest value data/API access which will be publicly visible ones with institutional names attached.

Voila- world now changed forever.

>>18629911
See above, basically extremely high volume contract execution at low cost and with the uptime and security guarantees of a decentralized network.

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>>18630088
Is this unironically the future of link?

>> No.18630232

>>18628815
WHEN. MOON.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>> No.18630250

>>18630088
Thanks for the thread OP. May I ask a few questions,
How old are you?
How much LINK do you have?
What do you do in the real world for money?
Where in the world do you live?

Cheers, all the best. From a poorfag who has less than 1K but was hoping for another drop in price before I finally reach my suicide stack. It's more expensive to buy LINK in my currency.

>> No.18630251

>>18629223
Copy pasta spam. Wow. You gonna "drop tha mic" now.

>> No.18630276

>>18629933
No idea who that is

>>18629944
A high bandwidth global internet and elliptic curve cryptography were both necessary and are relatively young.

>>18629980
This is a really good perspective.
Remember the winkelvoss guys get called geniuses for buying a bunch of BTC after it had already 100x'd. And that's a simple value transfer network.

>>18630020
Did you read Ed Felten's statement on the launch of arbitrum? They are explicitly not waiting for ETH 2

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>>18630153
It’s happening right now

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>>18630276

Is Arbitrum fully operational right now fren?

Also, do you see them porting over certain enterprises or enterprise type projects from SmartContract over first, or will it be all at once?

How will we know about this, other than an announcement? Will they finally release an explorer where we can view the jobs properly?

>> No.18630352

>>18630276
>A high bandwidth global internet and elliptic curve cryptography were both necessary and are relatively young

5G

>> No.18630353

>>18630153
>>18630278
Kinda spooky huh?

>>18630232
Relax and enjoy this moment friend

>>18630250
You can ask. I'm old enough to know that who I am doesn't matter here- its the ideas

>> No.18630371 [DELETED] 

>>18630278
kek

>> No.18630388

>>18628876
i still have 200k kek

>> No.18630423

>>18630353
Based. Just convinced me to buy more link.

Do you think link can one day overcome eth?

>> No.18630444

>>18630353
>>18630353
I’m antsy about getting my node KYC’d, maybe it’s too late for this. We’re at least trying to get onto mainnet early, about as prepared as we could be re: security and uptime, lucked out with a container orchestration bg. Any insights?

>> No.18630447

Just sold entire stack. Cringe larp.

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>>18630353
>its the ideas

based and redpilled

>> No.18630836

>>18628815
Thank you OP. Great read.

>> No.18630873

>>18630353

is there a risk that LINK becomes some valuable and its potential so realised by the Crypto community that some exchanges actively exit scam to get hold of deposited LINK?

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>I know we're under time pressure

This post by samsondav makes a lot more sense now. The timeline adds up.

>> No.18630889

forgot the link to the github for the post above

https://github.com/smartcontractkit/chainlink/pull/2732

>> No.18630901

>>18628815

Most of the stuff i see here on 4chan is trash. I have a lot of fun with the memes and all... but this info was just great. Thank you for sharing your autistic finds with us sir

>> No.18630962

>>18630020
Your on it anon. 1 pt awarded

>> No.18631005

>>18628815
thanks fren. please wait me fren.
me want 7777 linkies.
please wait me fren.
1 more paycheck fren.
wait me.

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>>18630353
>its the ideas
4chan is home to the best ideas that exist. It's also home to the worst ideas that exist. Fortune favors the man with exceptional discernment.

>> No.18631151

>>18631096
Mmmm that's one shiny bicycle.

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>>18628815
If only cryptofags knew the unfortunate events awaiting them. You didn't think you could defy us and get away with it, did you? Soon

>> No.18631277

>>18630353
How do you imagine Chainlink will integrate with Starlink?

>> No.18631304

>>18631243
Monsters exist solely to be slain, anon.

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>>18628815
Singularity

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>>18628815
thanks OP i was hoping for a comfy thread and was not disappointed

>> No.18631756

>>18631243
who do you mean by "us"

>> No.18631954

>>18630251

cope lmao we'll drop it over and over on your candy asses because the problem is it's true lel

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>>18629830
>some will recognize me others not
You are one of those

https://yuki.la/biz/9339054
https://yuki.la/biz/13101062
https://yuki.la/biz/12912320

if so, your predictions were a way off so why it should be right this time ? But however, so far the best fund-a-mental LINK LARP thread of the 2020... godspeed fren, nice to see you back, you can see the board gone to complete sub room temperature IQ since 2019

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>>18628815
i just want to make it so i can have enough confidence to go and hug my mom and say thank you. after that i want i want to make the world better a better place.

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>>18630232

>> No.18632725

I'm so excited op

At the same time I'm pretty sure I've got the wuflu. Been looking at people on Reddit who tested positive and have had trouble breathing for months and it sounds exactly like me

Fuck man I waited so long for my linkies to take off, now we're almost there and I probably got the wuflu

I really hope this shit ain't permanent

>> No.18632956

>>18628815
which spoonfeeder fren are you?
drunkanon?
assblaster?
whalekilla?

>> No.18632995

>>18632956
No namefagging required here fren. We're just anonsa

>> No.18633046

Jeez what a FORCED thread. Pathetic

>> No.18633066

>>18628815
>In May (previously in anticipation of the smartcontract summit) the public, decentralized Chainlink network will begin to merge with the private, permissioned smartcontract network

You know what? There's some truth to this. I was wondering how Docusign was going to run this product unless they have their own private blockchain.

https://twitter.com/DocuSign/status/1249762777406701568

>> No.18633088

>>18628815

>the definition of fun

To your credit, instant quotable line, and I look forward to Nicoposters saying this thousands of times in the dark days ahead

>> No.18633102

>>18630020
Isn’t ETH 2 coming out this year? How long will it be until it’s up and running?
>>18630276
>>18630326
>Did you read Ed Felten's statement on the launch of arbitrum? They are explicitly not waiting for ETH 2
What do you mean? So chainlink is not waiting for ETH 2 for staking? I’m confused

>> No.18633149

i currently own 0 link, why exactly should i buy into this

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>>18633149
don't it's a russian scam coin

>> No.18633412

>>18633149
You shouldn't

>> No.18633451

>>18628916
Do you think itll go sub 2$ again before then. Us poorfags want to make it too.

>> No.18633466

>>18631096
he lived more in one day than most men live in ten lifetimes

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>>18632103
That day will come. Hug your mother today, anon.

>> No.18633518

>>18630876
How’s it make sense? Bc of ETH2.0v ???

>> No.18633520

>>18633451
this

>> No.18633564

>>18633476
Your mom is hot

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>>18633066
Yes, this. Gosner, on a Linkedin post he made last year, said something to the effect of "wouldn't it be cool if Smart Clauses and Chainlink Oracles" could facilitate these type of Smart DocuSign Agreements...... I can't find the post but I know it's still live on LinkedIn because I viewed it a few weeks ago.

He specifically referenced this product in conjunction with Clause and Chainlink in reference to this product.

>> No.18633608

>>18633518


The May SmartCon Conference was going to be the big day for Chainlink. If a big update or announcement was going to be made, it was going to be during the conference. Even though the conference isn't happening, the team is still moving forward with the timeline.


Smart Contract updating their logo was also a big sign that something is happening soon.

>> No.18633695

>>18630353
>It doesnt matter who we are, what matters is our plan.

Kek, based oldfag subtly baneposting.

>> No.18633703

>>18628815
Is there any better? I made a promise not to wash until staking. I seeded myself with psilocybin spores and now have growths all over me. They've burrowed into my blood. Into my brain. I'm in a constant state of extreme agony and glorious clairvoyance. The mycelium chews at my flesh and rewards with visions more real than the air you breathe. Chainlink has already reached $1000, it has always reached it. Time is just sinking round and round to that inevitable point and you are scrambling at the sides trying to climb out, but my mushrooms will have you in time.

>> No.18633718

>>18633574

He tweeted this and Chainlink together I believe.

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>>18633703
Based

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>>18633695
Why do we all wear the mask?
Baneposting is real fren

>> No.18633872

>>18628815
As someone in LINK since ICO, Bitcoin since 2011 and 4chan since 2006, this is one of those threads that sets off my senses that you know what you're talking about more or less. Even if you're wrong, it still comes across you're well informed on LINK. So thanks for sharing your well formed thoughts. Appreciate it.

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>>18633066
>>18633574
>>18633718

He did. And I found the pic related. Also see below:

Docusign blog post:
> https://www.docusign.com/blog/top-trends-for-contract-management-in-2020/

Base Layer Podcast Interview with Sergey & Gosner:
> https://open.spotify.com/episode/0KZBYWZuxU2lnIUGPAKxy4?si=b90FnwbiTJCI-GY7KwBiyQ

John Wolpert (IBM Blockahin founder & Chairman of Baseline Protocol):
> https://twitter.com/jwolpert/status/1159101056187555842

ChainLinkGod Twitter post referencing recent DocuSign talk about Oracles & Smart Contracts:
> https://twitter.com/ChainLinkGod/status/1180651714845827073

>> No.18634016

>>9339221
(cont'd) but it will be small, early and driven by baby money. The real upside of Chainlink is the endgame: Chainlink is what the truly big sharks are going to use to eat mere whales.
If you have a network that requires Link and that saves even 10% of business costs, you CANT EVEN STAY IN BUSINESS unless you're in. Corporate profit margins are thin, that's why cost savings are so sought after. The real explosion, my guess, will be in 2020 after early adopter business start seeing real cost savings using the network THEY BUILT. If you were a business and you had a thing that gave you a huge competitive advantage over your peers, how much would you charge them to get in?
Price is always supply and demand, and when that happens there will be a small amount of supply and a HUGE amount of totally inelastic demand.
Like I said, i do know more about the project than is posted here. I can't post any of it and I'm not going to timestamp anything. You shouldn't take this post as anything other than a reasonable viewpoint. That said, here are realistic price predictions (with 90% CI's based on my own data) so that you can make an informed decision on whether you want to try to get crypto rich fast or just ride the link train to slow riches:

EOY2018 1.5 (0.5-8)
EOY2019 3.5 (1-45)
EOY2020 15 (5-700)
EOY2024 1500 (75-45000)

>> No.18634396

Hey OP, are you still here? I just got done with a 4 hour drive. If so, I'd like to ask if you see a future for other oracles (e.g. Tellor) or if 1st gen competitors are fuked?

>> No.18634502

>>18634016
You wouldn't kill a roach with a magic spell. Bullets work best for sending niggers to Hell.

>> No.18635260

>>18628815
It’s finally happening. Kek is giving us 1 more years to accumulate more at 1.50-3.00 USD area and it’s finally happening.

>> No.18635277

>>18635260
Giving us or gave us?

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>>18635277
gave us

>> No.18635332

>>18628815
>>18628916
weapon grade hopium

>> No.18635382

Soo is 300 link enough to make it?

>> No.18635467

>>18629459
Oh nice...9 months away, just as the economy will crashing to ashes.

>> No.18635498

>>18633451
dude who gives a fuck if it goes to 2$ again. just shovel money in. it wont matter if you got in at 2 or 3 when its $1,800

>> No.18635504

>>18628916
>The rest of this year is going to be the euphoric rush of doing the crime of actually changing the world for the better by removing negative value intermediaries while at the same time getting criminally, stupidly rich.

Maybe this really will become the best timeline

>> No.18635552

>>18634016
You wont fucking make it without gold and silver.

>> No.18635707

And /biz/ is back again. Based bread

>> No.18636153

based and quality checked

>> No.18636378

>>18635498
Yes it does matter. At this price $1000 gets roughly 300link. At $2 the same money gets you 500link. Now tell me how it doesn't matter when it's $1800 because far as I can tell $540000 is very different to $900000.

>> No.18636449

>>18635552
Ok Boomer *dabs*

Based thread OP, it's been a while

>> No.18636486

>>18636378
Just fucking DCA. Buy a bit every week. Time in the market beats timing the market. Come on anon, we’re all in this together. Just pull the trigger now.

>> No.18636509

>>18632956
out of those three only assblaster was really a good one

>> No.18636889

>>18636378
Get money in as fast as possible and don’t stop for 5 years. Just take 5 years of your life and take a fucking chance. Are you a pussy?