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This is the official thread of /SMG/. All others are frauds.

Futures trading edition.
>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq (embed)

>Stock market Words
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)

>Risk Management
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp (embed)

>Live Bloomberg Stream
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>Educational Sites
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://nhentai.net/tag/cumflation/

>Free Charts
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/

>Screeners
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live Data
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) Calculator
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings
https://fintel.io/

>Misc
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/

>> No.18613321
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OHHHH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>> No.18613343

>>18613300
This is the real general

>> No.18613366

All in on tvix

>> No.18613370
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What are you guys thinking oil tanker stonks are gonna do in the next week or so? Trying to make some quick cash before the market tanks again.

Bought TNK and EURN

>> No.18613376

My ID is xQQQ

How do I make money from this?

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>>18613300
>(embed) (embed)

>> No.18613389

>>18613376
Get QQQ calls, then execute them.

>> No.18613395

Halp.

According to Simply Wall st, KOS should return to about $2.34 a share based on their valuation. I have 178 shares. I bought at 74 cents, it's currently about a dollar. So if I sell approx. 132 shares I will get my initial investment back which was about $132. I would still have 46 shares left. If I keep all of my shares, and it hits $2.34, they will be worth $416. If I take my initial out now, which like I said is about $132, and then the stock hits $2.34, my remaining shares will be worth about $100.

So basically, it's $100 v.s $284 ($416 minus my initial $132), but the $100 is basically zero risk since my initial is already out. Is that right?

>> No.18613439

>>18613386
Needs more

>> No.18613555
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Here's a proposition.

Tracking Crude over the last couple weeks, a pattern is emerging: it opens relatively high, but dives sometime around 1400 exchange.

I'm under the, what is possibly fallacious, impression that oil has no option but to decline given the nature of its tangibility. And without proposing to destroy it in improbable volumes, I suspect that generally the decline in price will necessarily continue until practically countered by production cuts. At least, in this very short term. Considering the may contracts as well, I think this is probably solid logic.

In any case, if we're looking at DTO, a 2x Crude Bear, it tracks daily performance relatively well, but in particular always represents these troughs as magnificent peaks. What I'm seeing is, basically free money.

>> No.18613580

Should I buy MRO now? I bought more RTX today and I'm already green on it lul

>> No.18613586
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>>18613300
has the pajeet gone to bed?

>> No.18613615

Purchased OXY today after looking at financials and such relatively quickly. After I bought, I saw Buffet has some sort of deal where if he cant be paid the dividend he receives shares instead. Little worried now. Should I instead move the capital elsewhere?

>> No.18613901

>>18613615
Lmao this nigga bought into oxy point at him and laugh

>> No.18614050
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>>18613615
I managed to buy OXY on 20th February (2020). I'm down 70%. Don't be me.

>> No.18614065

>>18614050
lmao point and laugh at this nigga too

>> No.18614082

>>18613300
I think we will end deep red again...and i have failed to sell the top...fucking bagholding to the bottom again...

>> No.18614134

>>18613901
Why would you not? Oil is bullish my nigga

>> No.18614356

>>18613901
Yeah. Just gonna drop it and add to RTX position. I shouldn't be trading oil. I dont know Jack shit about it

>> No.18614366

>>18613300
Sell while you still can

>> No.18614383

>>18614050
I pray that's not true

>> No.18614627

>>18614050
just hold

>> No.18614648

So happy I held on to snap after earnings. I'm rich bitch!

>> No.18614688
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>>18614383
it's true, just 750 bucks though.
people never ask about the invested amount around here.

>>18614627
i should be able to afford holding these until they recover in 8 years

>> No.18614702

Weebs have AIDS

>> No.18614707

>>18614688
I know the feeling, I have some OXY but I bought it a bit after you did, but then again I bought 30 shares of USO before it tanked too lol

>> No.18614716

What other tankers and storage stocks am I missing? FRO, TKY, EURN, TNP, NS, DHT, NAT.

Also any plays you had in mind? Is it better to hold shares vs options?

>> No.18614765

futures are doing stuff

>> No.18614996

>>18614765
green stuff? hope it continues

>> No.18615014

>>18614996
greenies

>> No.18615031

BVLL FVCKING SVRGE! END THIS RETARDED BEAR PARADE! EXTINCTION OF BEARS IMMINENT!

BVLL! BVLL! BVLL! BVLL! BVLL! BVLL!

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>>18615031
MOOOOOOO

>> No.18615047

>>18615031
I feel sorry man, looking at the biggest fool is hard.

>> No.18615062

Thoughts on GLP?

>> No.18615071

Warmly stop by my thread as well, I worked very hard to make it. Thank you very much.

>>18615038

>> No.18615073

>>18614716
STNG

>> No.18615083

>>18615031
>up 1%
Six different industries have gotten nationalized this month, bullish as fuck

>> No.18615084
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>>18615014
kinda typical if tomorrow would be green when the biggest daily corona gain happened the day before

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>>18613370
sheeeeeeit, white people are ugly

>> No.18615093

>>18615084
market hasn't been inverse correlated with corona chan numbers for a couple weeks

>> No.18615097

>>18615093
Because the market doesn't care about the virus anymore.

>>18615083
And more to come.

>> No.18615123

>>18615031
WOOF WOOF WOOF

>> No.18615133

Why are futures green

>> No.18615140

>>18615133
Because the oil industry just went bankrupt and 20 million people are gonna be unemployed

>> No.18615147

>>18615133
1. futures are a shitty indicator
2. yesterday was deep red, slight correction of the correction
3. stimulus package #2121248485934 passing right now
4. more bail outs
5. oil and gas intervention by president donny

>> No.18615150

>>18615140
Good news everybody!

>> No.18615167

WHY IS SNAP MOONING BUT NFLX ISNT

>> No.18615175
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>>18613300
>This is the official thread of /SMG/. All others are frauds.

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>>18615031
BVLL! BVLL! BVLL! BVLL! BVLL! BVLL!>>18615175

>> No.18615235

>>18615133
because the economy is shut down

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>AHHHHHHHH that first sip of the morning

Feels nice man. Also this morning j opened a fresh pack of coffee. Feels good

>> No.18615314

I heard we'll find out the mortgage default rate tomorrow, anyone know about this?

>> No.18615316

>>18614688
Have 1k in OXY but then again that's 33% of my portfolio. Dont want to sell but mr Buffet seems like he may just take the money and run

>> No.18615347

>>18614716
why buy so many different ones?

i'm up 30% on FRO and TNK after buying 3 weeks ago. also holding shares gets dividends

>> No.18615354

>>18615286
I'm pouring some Hawaiian Island Blend light roast right now

>> No.18615409

FTSE booming lads

>> No.18615418

Eu open barely positive...

We are going down boys.

>> No.18615419

>>18615354
Nice

>> No.18615424

>>18615418
DAX +1% is barely nowadays...

>> No.18615426

Quick rundown on RTX? is it the new meme stock?

>> No.18615451

>>18615426
it's just a stock
it's alright
not bad
I bought some

>> No.18615456

>>18615424
Crazy isnt it.

It goes down whole day and then small bump eod if it follows the trend.

Might be -2% today total aswell.

>> No.18615472

>>18615456
You are just going mental, that's all. My screencap order is getting full.

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Do people actually research the business before they buy the stock here? You guys dont just make surface guesses based on how bad or good something is doing today right? You dont just look at a stock's history, but also their future profit projections, orders done, plans of expansions and phases, right? You look at the background of the CEO and their teams, right? Hello?

>> No.18615489

>>18615474
Nigga nobody got time for that

>> No.18615492

>>18615474
Haha green line goes up

Buye buye

>> No.18615498

>>18615474
No.

>> No.18615502

>>18615418
Oh no no no no

>> No.18615503

>>18615474
Well I for one, good sir, do half that.

Can someone tell me why Crowdstrike and Cloudflare aren't competitors? They're both internet security?

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>>18615474
>Do people actually research the business before they buy the stock here?
If investing in it. Yes.

LCI to $60

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bought shell and philips 66 for 30k yesterday. I saved that money in 8 years of work.
Wish me luck!

>> No.18615518

>tfw still bagholding SQQQ from 25

>> No.18615519

>>18615472
Okay.

You think recovery started now?

>> No.18615523

>>18615474
No. None of that shit matters over the next year (which is what matters). I look at the chart. If it looks like it wants to move one way or the other, it's a good trade.

>> No.18615538

Where my coffee jul 20 bro at

>> No.18615550
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Autistic gaslighting edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq (embed)

>Stock market Words
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)

>Risk Management
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp (embed)

>Live Bloomberg Stream
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>Educational Sites
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://nhentai.net/tag/demon-girl/

>Free Charts
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/

>Screeners
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live Data
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) Calculator
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings
https://fintel.io/

>Misc
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/

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>>18615538
Not him, but I am shorting part of that through DBA puts.

>> No.18615555

>>18613580
I bought some Monday and nothing bad has happened yet. Others here have done the same, with one anon calling it risky. My position is small, fwiw.

>> No.18615563

>>18615550
You’re dumb as fucking bricks, OP. Commit sudoku ASAP.

>> No.18615574

>>18615550
WHOOPS FORGOT TO SWITCH OUT OF THETHREAD WHILE SWITCHING DISCORD TRANNY VPNS

>> No.18615580
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>>18615555
Those are very good numbers.

>> No.18615615

What if the Saudi's and Rusko's were fighting to attack OUR oil industry? Is posseble?

>> No.18615616

>>18615426
RTX is great. Every time someone in a shithole dies from a rocket you make money. What more do you want?

>> No.18615626

>>18615616
https://youtu.be/BEBXdSYhQb4
video related

>> No.18615644

What's happening with the Asian market?

>> No.18615663

Maybe there is 100% a recession coming and Trump is demanding to get the economy back open ASAP not to avoid the crash, but to lessen the damage.

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>>18614050
WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR
STOP
LOSSSSSSSSSSS?!

>> No.18615672

>>18615644
crabbing. nikkei barely down. HSI barely up

>> No.18615673

>>18615644
Singapore hit by corona and china admitting new cases from visitors abroad..
2nd wave inc...? Dont know about that.

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>>18615616
>buying stock of companies you like
Stupid nigger, only buy stock of companies you hate, that way if they fall you're happy because fuck them and if they go up you're happy because money. It's win/win investing.

>> No.18615794

>>18615626
based comfy missile poster

>> No.18615796

>>18615644
>nikkei

>> No.18615809
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>>18615789
Ok sure so I hate to see people die that's why I invest in war. I'm such a good person you know.

>> No.18615821

>>18615796
chilling, looking into previous plays by anons on glass, paper, and packing stocks.

>> No.18616137

>>18615615
Saudis put market pressure on the prices to get market share. This is done by making contracts at prices that the Ruskies and Brent aren't able to turn into profits. This loss the Saudis have as they use oil to balance their national budget, this loss is minimized by debt. They use eurobonds mostly issued via Morgen, Goldman, etc to US hedges like black rock and state retirement funds on wall street. This is merely a market grab facilitated by overseas sovereign debt. Saudis want to get as much market share as possible. This is temporary, the market will recover to below $30. Once the economies restart with possible new spending, the prices may even go up due to demand. Every day the prices are low, even if just for one month, the Saudis get the contracts not the Ruskies and US top 3. This is worth to do even for a relatively short period of market time.

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>that first Kraft Deluxe Mac and Cheese dinner of the day

also FUCK the people in charge of my managed accounts, I just checked my 2018 taxes and they realized way too many cappy gains so now I get zero dollars of TrumpBux
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE only my mac and cheesy keeps me from breaking things

>> No.18616737

>>18615474
lol wut nigger too much to read

>> No.18616766

>>18615474
In a normal market yes, except the biopenny gamblers.
But this is clown market. A single Trump tweet can swing the market up or down 5%.

>> No.18616775

>>18613300
BUY GOLD. BUY FUCKING GOLD. 90S WERE SINGLE DIGIT INVESTMENTS NOW WE'RE TALKING TRIPLE. BUY FUCKING GOLD. THIS SHIT IS GOING TO GO INTO SPACE YOU WATCH

>> No.18616777

futures are frozen

>> No.18616799
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>>18616775
INVEST IN GOLD MINES TOO THEY WILL HAVE A HUGE SHORTAGE OF GOLD SOON DEMAND IS SPIKING PUT YOUR MONEY INTO THE MINES THEY'RE GONNA GO INTO OVERPRODUCTION MAX OVERTIME HOURS FOR STAFF TO MEET DEMAND ITS GONNA BE THE GREAT GOLD RUSH OF THE NEW ROARING 20'S. GET IN THE GAME NOW BEFORE FOMO

>> No.18616902

>>18616777
Why?

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Am I about to buy the top of INO? They're getting a shitton of backing from Bill Gates and South Korea and shit for that vaccine.

>> No.18616955

>>18615167
Because SNAP was undervalued before earnings and Netflix was overvalued going into earnings, so in other words Netflix already priced it in

>> No.18616968

How the fuck are we up again?

>> No.18616969

>>18616777
es just thawed out.

>> No.18616984

When will this dead cat bounce be over?

>> No.18616996

>>18616984
Right before we crash.

>> No.18617047

>>18616996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>> No.18617090

>>18617047
Yeah, anybody who listens to a nigger is probably sub 80 IQ.

>> No.18617116
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Hello frens. SOXL is the answer. Face it. Semiconductors are crack in all but name. The desire for newer, faster, more is insatiable. Computers, GPUs, self-driving electric cars, AI enhanced smartphones, medical devices, microcontrollers, networking gear, machine learning, surveillance, infrastructure, military, the list is endless. No matter how many cores, how fast or efficient, demand requires bigger, faster, cheaper, better. The clamor for fresh silicon gives nary shit for national identity, creed, hue, gender or other vain conceit; the multitude speaks in singular. The plea: semiconductor.
SOXL couples a single ETF entry point with the the best companies the space has to offer then pushes these already stellar returns to the limit with 3x leverage. With SOXL your economic interests are aligned with powerhouses TSM, Nvidia, Qualcomm, Intel, Broadcom, AMD, Micron, Texas Instruments, Applied Materials, et al. Real tech companies with innovative products people want, not """tech""" """companies""" pushing shitty ads. And like all leveraged ETFs, SOXL is rebalanced daily, deftly mitigating margin risks.
In the last 7 years, barring the coronavirus interruption, SOXL has exploded over 55x yet still we are early. Semiconductor growth will proceed exponentially until every viable space is saturated with it. This is a fait accompli; the sheer number of interested parties and compelling outcomes make it so. The injection of increasingly compact and efficient sensors, microcontrollers, information processing and storage into everywhere and everything will be this era's seminal revolution, a revolution with SOXL holders planted firmly at the receiving end.
Stop waiting for more "pullback". The crash was a gift and fretting over the exact bottom is meaningless. Deliberation is over; waiting is a failure mode. Now. Buy it now.

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What are we buying today boys?
If the FED rumor is true then fuarrrrk.

>> No.18617132

>>18616968
Brrrr

>> No.18617151

>>18617116
Got back in at 103

>> No.18617160

>>18617128
What’s the fed rumor ?

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>>18615354
>>18615286

lol ok boomers

get you some Zoomie fuel

>> No.18617175

>>18613370
Stng has earnings today. Holding a position on them among others. They are my bellwether

>> No.18617200

>>18617128
Can't just say "if the FED rumor" without spreading the rumor.

>> No.18617220

>>18617116
I agree but the market is going lower and you will be buying your SOXL much cheaper in the coming weeks.

>> No.18617230

Whats up with oil, its actually green again

are we pumping (kek)?

>> No.18617254

>>18617160
>>18617200
It's buying up $40 billion of stonks per day

>> No.18617260

>>18617090
Post holds you fucking faggot

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>>18617220
>I agree but the market is going lower and you will be buying your SOXL much cheaper in the coming weeks.
I certainly hope so

>> No.18617290

When's the mortgage default data coming out? I heard it was tomorrow.

>> No.18617310

quick rundown on the Chinese bond hype?

>> No.18617314
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Am I going to make dollaridoos today? I’m not some faggot options trader. I’m just holding

>> No.18617318

>>18615673
China has over 10M cases. I’m aiming low there.

>> No.18617323

Hello frens i am new to /biz/ im looking forward to lurking here and learning as much as possible.

>> No.18617333

>>18617323
f

>> No.18617345

>>18617323
just burn your money and leave

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K.

>> No.18617383

>>18617151
based

>> No.18617384

>>18617314
>I'm just holding

You'll never make the gains of a chad options trader

>> No.18617392

>>18617314
>I'm not a faggot
doubt

>> No.18617408

am i too late to BNTX?

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>she didn't buy the 2nd bottom yesterday

>> No.18617415

>>18617345
Why?

>> No.18617416

>>18617383
Gonna try to sell today and re-enter later this week. I was able to get in at 91 the other week thanks to your post. Based SOXL poster

>> No.18617431

>>18615316
Going to 0

>> No.18617433

>>18617254
Really? Jerome straight up buying equities now?

>> No.18617454

>>18617314
>I’m just holding
Sell covered calls for """free""" money

>> No.18617469

how long can oil possibly continue to go down? at some point people are going to look at the longterm potential upside and not give a shit about the next few months of losses right?

>> No.18617474

>>18617408
Yes, the start of trials is already priced in.
Besides that, biotecs always rise on red days and drop on green days, because people panics and think the vaccines will be worth more.

>> No.18617476

>>18617469
I don't think the big oil boys can go much lower. They have hunkered down for the forseeable future. What is currently imploding are oil ETFs

>> No.18617477

>>18617128
Source?

>> No.18617488

>>18617469
You have no idea what you are doing

>> No.18617494

>>18617476
so stuff like USO will tank but SCO will crab?>>18617488
correct. that's why i'm asking questions

>> No.18617499
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All my money went into these two stocks. Am I fucked?

>> No.18617507

>>18617499
If you somehow bought NET at 77 then yes

>> No.18617514

>>18617494
Any leveraged oil ETF is going to be a dumpster fire right now. I think the long term is crabbing and that even makes the Bear ETFs a bad play.

>> No.18617516

>>18617469
I'm a fucking idiot so what I say is stupid. But oil going this low has to be designed by the big boys. The Federal Reserve is giving everyone else billions but leaves oil out to dry?

>> No.18617517

>>18617507
That’s 77 shares, anon.

>> No.18617527

>>18617477
Some anon in smg

>> No.18617529

>>18617516
I agree you are an idiot

>> No.18617539

Friday morning im getting a bike and biking to Florida to start a new life of isolation. Disconnect from family and internet going to become a writer along with heavy working.

>> No.18617538

>>18617415
It'll take your stress away than burning it slowly in markets. Your hairline will be safe

>> No.18617542

>>18617517
are you expecting a quality answer as to whether you should be holding tech stocks while we are waiting for the biggest crash in the last 100 years?

>> No.18617549

>>18617516
Oil is this low for 2 reasons:
1. Political: Saudia Arabia wants to kill US Shale (and they are succeeding so far)
2. Demand shock: CV has caused a plummet in demand from all major oil consuming industries
The Fed can't actually deal with both issues.

>> No.18617553

>>18617514
ok that's kind of what i figured. barring another huge slide in oil... that's what i'm trying to figure the probability of, and it seems low. so i'll just lose my SCO gains to decay

>> No.18617561

>>18617539
That's extremely based, i hope you succeed king.

>> No.18617566
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>>18616766
This. Earnings are meaningless right now. Why bother when you can play volatility and win like crazy.

>> No.18617575

>>18617527
>dude, trust me
Seems like that anon was full of shit, but I guess we'll see. The long-term implications that would have are terrible.

>> No.18617578

>>18617539
brother-in-law is literally doing the same exact thing

>> No.18617582

>>18617549
Couldn't they just print money and support the paper market?

>> No.18617598

So when are they going to get rrid of cash and make our links go to the moon?

>> No.18617605
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He has posted earnings and the report ain't bad at all considering the shat happening now, just 1 penny off the mark per share from what the experts all said. His divvy is strong as ever with plenty of cash to spare and as the report makes very clear He's giving the virus the finger and saying for it to go to hell.

>> No.18617614

>>18617582
Paper market? Do you mean the absolute idiot retail speculators that thought they could make it "big" with oil futures because of Trump's "deal"?
Those people got rightly fucked. The cash reserves of the multinationals are enough to weather years if they needed to. And they aren't the target.
Shale is absolutely in the gutter and right now a lot of them have this problem that if they stop up their wells they likely will never be able to get them back up. The only thing that can save them is literally price controls which Texas has already been talking about since last week.
That would turn the US into an OPEC competitor but with just ourselves as a member.

>> No.18617628

FUCKING DEGRIO WON'T LET ME SHORT OIL

FUCKING PSEUDO-TRADER

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUU

>> No.18617655

>>18617628
degiro doesnt let you short ANY non-EU stocks.
it sucks I know...

>> No.18617664

>>18617605
most companies wont be hit as hard as prognosed by doomers
in my country life is pretty much normal
dunno why westerners fucked up so much

>> No.18617665

Anyone watching Ford (F)? Think a $4.50 put is a decent buy at $0.84?

>> No.18617669
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18617669

That's a comfy feel. Made my first 1000.

>> No.18617672

>>18617664
>dunno why westerners fucked up so much
unironically on purpose. this becomes more clear every day

>> No.18617683

>>18617664
which "country" are you from?

>> No.18617684

>>18617665
Delicious

>> No.18617687

>>18617539
you want to bike to florida to live on the streets there or what?

>> No.18617688

Is stocktwits down for anyone else

>> No.18617690

>>18617684
I've never really messed with options before. Theta fucks me up

>> No.18617691

>>18617566
I haven't been winning like crazy since a single tweet or sudden mention of helicopter money totally flips the market, and that shit happens overnight when there's no poorfag trading allowed. Like today we're opening gap up three fucking percent.

>> No.18617699

>>18617687
Makes as much sense as y'alls investments

>> No.18617701

I predict a bullish opening now that oil is relatively stable.

>> No.18617707

do we short uso

>> No.18617708

>>18617699
>y'alls

>> No.18617724

>>18617701
It is still bleeding. Massive money printing and new GIBBS is going to pump it green today.

>> No.18617743

>>18617724
when’s the next gibbs? is there another being worked on?

>> No.18617747

WHY THE FUCK IS SPY DROPPING

>> No.18617750
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>>18614050
I'm down 65% on F since I bought it back in like 2012 but I refuse to sell

>> No.18617758

>>18617743
Just passed the house
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/04/22/coronavirus-updates-cdc-paycheck-protection-georgia-states-reopening/2997805001/

>> No.18617762

>>18617743
There was one passed yesterday while the markets were still open and it had no effect.

>> No.18617775

Chinese 10 yr has twice the yield of the US 30 yr

>> No.18617779

Where my leaf bros at?
We going all in on some spicy TSX stocks today!

>> No.18617802

Also if we're getting these bailouts and checks what are these protesters running around outside for? Stay indoors and jack off till it all blows over like the rest of us. Hell, buy a Netflix subscription with your Trumpbux.

>> No.18617817

>>18617802
boomers can’t cope with being neets

>> No.18617838

>>18613300
next oil rally is May 21st. from negative to 0

>> No.18617841

>>18617762
Everyone's waiting for news of the 2nd wave of Govt checks being passed.

>> No.18617855

>>18617775
seems like everyone has abandoned EM bonds en masse and flocked to China bonds

>> No.18617861

>>18617747
??? + 1.2%

wtf is wrong with ppl

>>18617758
market doesn't even react on shitty stimulus packages.

>> No.18617869

Why would anyone be a bear right now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI7sBsBHdCk [Embed]

Mr. Powell has made clear that even with interest rates at zero, the Fed’s firepower is limitless. “When it comes to lending, we are not going to run out of ammunition,” he said Thursday in an interview on NBC’s “Today” show. “That doesn’t happen.”

>> No.18617873

We going on CNQ today!
Fat divvies, 50% off for a short time only.
See you lads on the beaches next winter.

>> No.18617874

>>18617758
This helps small businesses. Isn’t the mega corporate gibs like the last kike bill

>> No.18617877

>>18617669
Congrats anon, keep it going.

>> No.18617894

>>18617817
>they all end up discovering league of legends or minecraft

>> No.18617908

>>18617869
Why do stonks continue to sometimes go down then?

>> No.18617909

>>18617869
based Jpow

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i was promised cheapies

>> No.18617916

These bail outs are so fucking stupid. Congress needs to be working on 3 things. testing, testing and testing. These corporate bail outs at the tax payer's expenses should come with caveats that include mandatory carbon emission reduction and funding for renewable energy projects.

>> No.18617917

>>18617894
Imagine playing any multiplayer video game and all of your teammates are boomers
damn

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>>18615672
>>18615673
>>18615796
What I mean is this intraday uptrend.
What caused it?

>> No.18617923

Anyone else making bank on snap calls today?

>> No.18617937

>>18617914
I was hoping for cheapies as well

>>18617918
some people realized that they had fallen for the trade war coronavirus unemployment debt default kim jong un coma meme and decided to buy stocks

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18617949

who bought USO?
1.14m volume on a 1 minute candle

>> No.18617960

>>18617869
It is illegal for the Fed to buy equities as it stands, although they were able to skirt the legality of buying high yield bond ETFs through legal loopholes (the SPVs). It's possible that they could buy equities, but it would be tantamount to admitting that organic growth in US companies is no longer possible. Moreover, it would be blatantly admitting that the Fed serves only to ensure the wealth of the American oligarchy. I doubt that either party would be able to convince the American public that artificially propping up the equities markets at the cost of future generations economic hardship is worth it. If they were to, then America deserves to lose its position as a world power.

>> No.18617964

The entire market moves up and down together. It is so fucking boring. Index and ETF algos FUCK OFF

>> No.18617989

>>18617949
One whale could push them to liquidate

>> No.18617992

>>18617949
Jerome

>> No.18617993

>>18617917
"Looks like you cupcakes are actually a League of LOSERS!!"
"Hahaha Ron. I really need to use that one in the next game!"

>> No.18617995

>>18617960
The fed is literally buying stocks, corporate debt and etfs via investment banks right this very moment.

>I doubt that either party would be able to convince the American public that artificially propping up the equities markets at the cost of future generations economic hardship is worth it.

implying they need to justify anything. They will do it because they can. Major coporations are being """nationalized""" ie corporate debt bought by the fed.

>> No.18617998

>>18617916
Almost correct

They should come with caveats about better benefits for their employees

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>>18617949
I own 1 @ 2.63

>> No.18618012
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based

>> No.18618018
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18618018

Hey guys can we please for the love of god not split the shit out of the thread today? I know we all fucking hate each other and all but the market is fucking looney enough without having you guys try and swing dick over making new threads.

>> No.18618019

>>18617747
Opening with any kind of gap up is senseless. I expected it because this market is senseless, but really it should be at yesterday's high, then continue to crab down with the occasional random spike.

>> No.18618020

What happens if SPY goes bankrupt?

>> No.18618023

>>18617894
That would be better than entitled millennials crying about racism

>> No.18618027

>>18618018
That was one salty autist

>> No.18618028

Any other fag here use degiro?

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18618030

>>18617949
I own 1 @ 3.39

>> No.18618037

>>18617116
E_De
T____ca
F________y

>> No.18618039

>>18618030

they're going to r/s 8:1, so you need to buy 7 more shares or else you'll get cashed out
https://sec.report/Document/0001171200-20-000271/

>> No.18618044

>>18618030
reverse split was announced for it

>> No.18618046

>>18618018
4chan is a warzone of ideas, peace was never an option.

and this:
>>18618027

>> No.18618053

>>18618018
FUCK OFF
the thread the bulls post in is always right and the thread the incel bears post in is always wrong

>> No.18618055

>>18618037
I want to fuck the bunny

>> No.18618058

>>18618028
Yeah it's absolutely garbage for trading

>for investing it's alright

>> No.18618061

>>18618020
you mean if state street global advisors, the firm behind the ETF SPY? nothing, the underlying companies are owned by the holders of the ETF contractually, and the assets would be transferred to another holding ETF. could also be liquidated with the funds being returned to investors, but i doubt they'd take that action.

>> No.18618063

>>18618012
Bullish for rtx

>> No.18618072

>>18618012
>it's real

Fucking BASED.

>> No.18618074

>>18616799
Where is the demand coming from?
Everyone who was laid off sold grandmas jewelry to make rent so there's a surplus right now

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>>18618037
>leveraged ETF decay
An important consideration I addressed a while back. The bottom line is avoid commodity based leveraged funds but don't get scared away from index/sector based stuff. Here's some pasta, the numbers have changed some since the virus situation has worn on but the thesis remains.
SSO (DBPG for euroanons) is a 2x leveraged ETF based on the S&P 500 and it is one of the few leveraged ETFs that existed before the Great Financial Crisis of 2008. Had you bought SSO (DBPG) at the literal top of the market before the recession in October 2007, as of this moment, you would have gains of 176%. Had you bought the underlying SPY on the same day you would have gains of 98%. So had you bought the leveraged ETF, even at the worst possible time, you still would have ended up with almost double the gains today.
Remember this the next time somebody throws shade on leveraged ETFs because of volatility decay. Buy the index based leveraged ETFs and win. Simple as that. And start buying now. Coronavirus could be as bad as the GFC and if you start buying in now with a little money and buy in more later as the prices drop you will still come out much better in the long run than buying SPY or worse, doing nothing at all. I'm buying and I'll be here when this thing is over to brag about my gains.

>> No.18618084

>>18616216
You didn't pay taxes?? Lmaoooooo>>18615789

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>>18618046
>>18618053
Well at least I can sigh and say I tried. 0DTE Spy calls on open?

>> No.18618092

>>18617995
Corporate debt and ETFs based on that through the SPVs and placing a buy order for SPY are two different things. They're not doing the later... yet. Thankfully. Though I agree it has a similar effect in that it picks winners and losers based on companies that are listed on a index, as opposed to more broadly distributing funds. Maybe it's semantics, to a degree.

>Implying they need to justify anything. They will do it because they can. Major corporations are being "nationalized..."
Oh, I completely agree. It's a blatant disregard for what should ideally happen in these situations (poorly managed, debt-ridden companies should fail). We're bailing out entire sectors because if we don't, we get massive social unrest from the resulting unemployment, etc. The American tax-payer pays for it all in the end, whereas those involved on the corporate end get another "get out of jail free" card. It's fucked.

>> No.18618095

Bank of China had a dumbed down product that let its customers buy oil futures very easily.
Their product for 2020 May contract got force closed whem oil price was at -37.63USD, causing some to lost millions of Yuan although some have also lost as little as a few thousands, beyond the total lost of their original investment. The bank was supposed to warn onvestors when they lost 50% of their guarantees and force close when they lost 80%, but thay didn't happens, they claim that's because they cannot force close outside trading hours, while the big drop in oil future price occurred in American trading hours outside Chinese hours, so they can only force close at closing price of the day without warning investors. Now the bank is apparently trying to make those investors pay for the negative price.

>> No.18618103

>>18617937
Great leader of N Korea dying of coronavirus causing a mass exodus of illiterate zombies to S Korea and China is unironically bullish and already priced in.

>> No.18618107

>>18618074

all the sellers were bought out a few weeks ago. several places had shipping waits of 15 days, and they tripled their minimum purchase amounts.

>> No.18618120

>>18617318
How can I profit off of this?

>> No.18618122

>>18618084
I did pay taxes, but my total taxable income was significantly over 100k so I don't get any trumpbucks
even if I hadn't realized any cappy gains in 2018, I still would only get a few hundred bucks...

>> No.18618123

>>18618077
Checked. 2x or 3x? I like tqqq. But I’m waiting for the next drop.

>> No.18618124

>>18615517
Both will go down more. I slowly started investing in shell but will continue to do so over the coming months instead of investing it all right before a big crash.

>> No.18618133

>>18617855
How can I profit off of this?

>> No.18618152

>>18617318
Fuck I meant
>>18617855

>> No.18618161

Its gonna be a crabber today boys

>> No.18618163

>>18618123
2x if you want to play it safer, 3x for the gains and more risk. It's user discretion mostly but I go for the latter. TQQQ is fantastic especially since it has weekly options with good volume and tight spreads unlike most of the other leveraged ETFs making it easier to pull off some extra cashflow ideas if you're into it

>> No.18618176

Lads I have 500 barrels of oil I need to pick up. What the fuck do I do?

>> No.18618187

>>18618018
I wish you redditors would go back to /pol/. You don't belong here

>> No.18618202

>>18618176
contracts are for 1000 barrels, larp better

>> No.18618210

>>18618202
Maybe anon burned half of it already and sold the barrel metal?

>> No.18618213

>>18618187
I remember when it used to be go back to /b/.

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>>18617669
Fuck, yeah. Good job. Be careful and keep up the good work!

>> No.18618219

>>18618176
Im sure you can pay someone to store it for you 40$ a barrel maybe?

>> No.18618240

>>18618217
all she had to do to succeed is be born...

>> No.18618243

>>18617323
Welcome, dirty nigger

>> No.18618246

>>18618240
Some people are born lucky
Some people are born female
Sometimes you're born both

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>>18618176
Just get 55 of these pools and fill them up.

>> No.18618253

>>18617669
What app you using?

>> No.18618255

nice bought 80 wfc shares yesterday at 26,57

>> No.18618287

>>18618255
nice

>> No.18618300

>>18617683
sounds like (((Israel)))

>> No.18618303

>>18618240
Most models are also students because their careers are over by the time they're in their mid-to-late 20s

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What should I add guys? Should I just wait while we correct?

>> No.18618314

>>18618305
FNGU

>> No.18618318

>>18618251
After you find some one to buy the oil in July you can sell the pools, they'll probably be in demand and you can turn a profit on them, or you can donate them to the baptist churches swimming programs and use the write off on your corporate taxes.

>> No.18618324

>RTX is mooning again

I'm about to coom.

>> No.18618354

>>18618176
>he didn’t buy enough barrels to fill a tanker, use the money he got from that sale to get a loan for an oil tanker and then buy the tanker in prep for his oil
Cringe

>> No.18618357

So Trump is rattling sabers at Iran so people think the Strait of Hormuz might close thus driving up oil prices?

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>>18618187
>Hahahaha reddit am I right guys
I'm sorry I want to look at stock market discussion without having to sort through 3 nigger tier threads full of namefags first. Fuck me right? You absolute fucking genius.

>> No.18618360

>>18618300
You could at least use the real tripcode. Only a faggot larper puts capitals behind the hashtag.

>> No.18618362

>>18617665
whats the expy?

>> No.18618368

>>18618362
Sep 18

>> No.18618380

Can we go back up 3% today and just forget about the oil crisis. Thanks.

>> No.18618397

>>18618368
good time. could play out.

>> No.18618401

>>18618359
Then just fucking lurk and don't bring your retardness here with you.

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>>18618324
based RTX poster

>> No.18618407

>>18618303
This.

Unless you're a world class model who can transition well into your 30s your career is done by then.

The smart move is to model in your twenties and attempt to become the trophy wife of some rich dude.

>> No.18618419

MRO going up today.
Don't have any SNAP but eager to watch what happens.

>> No.18618430

>>18618305
$PSX

All the gains of the oil rebound without exposure to international price gouging

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>>18615518
SQQQ at 20. Hands. Getting. Sweaty.

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Doing good so far

>> No.18618437

>Sitting here watching premarket wipe out yesterday's gains and I can't do a thing
This shit is such a fucking scam.

>> No.18618444

>>18618324
fuck you i want it to drop

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Why are more people not investing in airlines right now? They have never been on sale like this and we know eventually they will come back up.

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Do I hold 4/24 SPY put or try to sell ASAP?

>> No.18618454

>>18613395
Scared money doesn’t make money. Why take out your initial so soon?

>> No.18618460

>>18618437
after market and pre market is where all the price action is.

all the stocks I'm looking at move less than 5% during the day, but more than 10% AH and PM

>> No.18618464

>>18618447
Some could easily go bankrupt. They were already not very profitable.

>> No.18618467

>>18618437
You’d probably mess it up worse so count it as a blessing

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>>18618407
Always interests me when I see that. Could you really enjoy the Ferraris and jacuzzis knowing you eventually have to pleasure your shambling revenant of a sugar daddy again?

>> No.18618476

When are Tesla earnings out? Some mf told numbers are out today, but Q1 seems to be out in a week

>> No.18618478

>>18617914
Same. Might liquidate actually to get back in when it does go down.

>> No.18618487

Will it go down though? Gap up on open then +3% day?

>> No.18618491

>>18618401
How fucking new are you? You're telling me to lurk? What the fuck is this crazy world? Listen you little cumstain, I've been in this general long before you came here from /mlp/ so please shut your cocksucker.

>> No.18618506

>>18618437
This is how the market works right now. Market makers are having real fun with all the braindead monkeys.

>> No.18618507

>>18618401
>>18618491
I've always wondered why anons get so triggered with each other.

>> No.18618510

>>18618453
whats your strike price. im currently holding a single contract that expires today. I should have sold it yesterday at a break even but I got too greedy.

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>>18618491
at least there's only three threads now

>> No.18618513

>>18618474
Women will do anything for money or fame

>> No.18618514

>>18613395
Penny stock retard

>> No.18618516

>>18618095
>holding commodities long term
>trading commodities in an ETF instead of with a futures account
They had it coming

>> No.18618517

May pickup a few shares of HAL this morning. Got a few bucks left in the account so might as well use them to make even more green,right.

>> No.18618518

>>18618487
+3% would be great, deleting every move of the market yesterday and vanish the oil crisis.

>> No.18618519

We bump limit. Migrate.
>>18610111
>>18610111
>>18610111
>>18610111

>> No.18618520

>>18618474
Doesn't always have to be an old dude. There are plenty of rich dudes in their late 30s and early 40s.

But you do have a point about old rich guys with young trophy wives. Always wonder what the women think in that situation.

>> No.18618525

>>18613611
>>18613611
>>18613611

>> No.18618526

We’re gonna see USO hit zero today right dudes? I want my put to make money

>> No.18618540

>>18618514
That was a lot to read, wasn't it? Goddamn.

>> No.18618541

>>18613300
Many big players are starting to shill for gold which might cause a pump. What gold stocks are you guys looking at? I think miners are a better deal than straight gold but both should be good investments.
Also, what's your favorite oil play? Today I'm looking at MRP and RDS.B, I already got me some tankers.

>> No.18618547

>>18618519
>>18618525
I hate you fucking faggots so much. Literally cancer shit. Just fucking make one thread so we don’t have 8 different generals in 3 hours

>> No.18618549
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>>18618090
>Well at least I can sigh and say I tried. 0DTE Spy calls on open?
Godam right that's the spirit

>> No.18618552

>>18618474
1. They cheat
2. If you're getting some on the side it's not so bad, and worth the money

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What the FUCK is his problem?

>> No.18618563

>>18618507
Honestly? I'm in here advocating against the faggot shitshow we had yesterday and this little bitch is acting like I'm wrong? You guys want those shitty ass bobo threads that that nigger just half ass throws up with no info in them? God i wish this virus was an actual culling.

>> No.18618564

>>18618437
Get fucked retard

>> No.18618565

>>18618012
Honestly thought a fake tweet
Mfw when this is real hahahaha

>> No.18618567

>>18618560
Twitter isn't good for the brain, man. It turns people into ghouls.

>> No.18618572

>>18618547
I didn't make the threads, you idiot.

>> No.18618590

>>18617802
Becasue man needs to be free

>> No.18618592

>>18618467
By buying extremely deep calls on this obvious pump? All the important information is released outside normal hours so normal people can get fucked over harder. Having market hours set to a narrow part of only week days is totally fucking retarded considering everything is electronic anyway.

>> No.18618607

>>18618012
>tfw libcucks call Trump "literally Hitler" as a pejorative
>tfw Trump literally becomes the next Hitler because of coronachan putting us into hard times

the fucking irony of it all.

>> No.18618633

>>18615518
>>18618432
Both of you need to get the fuck out. Buy SPY calls on this mini-dip to recover some of your money before it's too late

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>>18618012
are the jeffs right?

>> No.18618658

>>18618453
SPY puts are only going to lose money between now and the 24th

>> No.18618677

>>18618638
>muh racist
What are the left going to do when this """insult""" loses its power?

>> No.18618679

>>18618012
The Navy won't do shit. Gunboats from hostile countries do this all the time, like Russia and China. The whole point is that it's in international waters and the other side can never definitively prove the harassing boats have ill intent.

>> No.18618737

>>18618677
what makes you think it will ever lose it's power?

>> No.18618744

>>18618058
But tell me, why do I have to buy full units of an ETF? Why can't I buy 100 Dolla worth a month. So if it's 50 I get 2 if it's 40 I get 2.5

>> No.18618748

>>18618737
It's already lost all meaning. No one gives a fuck anymore. It's the right's equivalent of dilate tranny.

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>> No.18618822

>>18618737
When a country had literally one white person left they will still claim racism on that white person for their own selfish gain.

Without the OMG RACIST NAZI NAZI NAZI approach, these people have nothing. It's actually in their interest for their to be imaginary racists

>> No.18618825

>>18618737
>what makes you think it will ever lose it's power?
It's self-defeating. Mostly wypepo use it to attack other wypepo weakening the whole as a result. Eventually the body is so weak a new zeitgeist has to emerge.

>> No.18618840

>>18617539
Im in tampa if u nees help getting the lay of the land amd your asshole loved tenderly