/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18550157
Nope, the dip is already over and you missed your chance to buy

>>18550157
'Sell in May and go away' is going to be true this year.

priced in

>>18550157
no

>>18550165
>>18550168
>>18550170
Wrong

>>18550172
cope

There will be a historic pump now that the corona struff is over.

>>18550177
Learn finance

I doubt it.

>>18550157
there will be no stock market anymore soon

Aren’t billionaires just scamming you right now, though? I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but I have to say, it sure seems like it.

It's going way down in a few months, this is just the beginning

>>18550165
I DIDN'T HAVE MONEYYYYYYYYYYY MY PAYCHECK ARRIVED LATEEE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I MISSED THE BOTTOM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

but still, won't go lower than this so i'm aight

>>18550227
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>>18550178
>>18550170
>>18550168
>>18550165
I know most of yall are memeing, but still, some truly believe this, peak delusion & ignorance from the goylems.
The absolute cretinery of low IQ mumutards...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4_1pwsm5LY

>>18550307
NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DISAGREE WITH MY OPINION!

>>18550307
Cope harder bobo
You'll have my moo cum soon

>>18550307
you are the only person deluded, faggot

>>18550309
>>18550315
>>18550320
seething

>>18550417
Making fat gains*
ftfy

>>18550435
>Making fat gains
I don't doubt it kek, too bad it will be worth nothing in few weeks ;)

Hold still, guys, already all normies from my job shouting about buying stocks/crypto at the bottom. So it can't be the bottom.

>>18550525
what if they're right and we're wrong?

>>18550471
Seeing as you are so confident the market will crash, I'm taking it as a given that you can post your short positions? I mean, you'd want to profit off this obvious crash, right? RIGHT?

>>18550525
>Wrong
>>18550525
>Hold still, guys, already all normies from my job shouting about buying stocks/crypto at the bottom. So it can't be the bottom.

The markets are not driven by who is smart, they are driven by those who take money in and out. The normies will pour money in and if you don't get in before them then you are out. Some of the stupidest coke heads I have ever seen are seniors in the financial industry.

UDVD.L
SPDR S&P US Dividend Aristocrats UCITS ETF Dis
47.52
0.00
+3.33%
XOM
Exxon Mobil Corporation
43.22
+4.07
+10.40%
SPYG.F
SPDR S&P UK Dividend Aristocrats UCITS ETF
10.91
+0.40
+3.80%
SPYW.F
SPDR S&P Euro Dividend Aristocrats UCITS ETF
18.56
+0.52
+2.91%
RDSA.AS
Royal Dutch Shell plc
15.93
+0.82
+5.40%
IL0A.IR
Permanent TSB Group Holdings plc
0.5180
+0.0180
+3.60%
BIRG.L
Bank of Ireland Group plc
1.4340
+0.0940
+7.01%

>>18550553
This is not "before" normies, it's already "after".

>>18550566
Agree.

>>18550566
The normie tide is however only beginning and as cocaine addicted fund manager begin to panic they have missed the bottom and break more and more money, more and more pump

>>18550578
Fund managers didn't get their jobs by panic buying. You are underestimating the professionals.

Wells Fargo & Company (WFC)

28.38+1.49 (+5.54%)

>>18550590
>Fund managers didn't get their jobs by panic buying. You are underestimating the professionals.

I'm sorry, I'm not, you attribute to much intelligence to idiots on coke in their early 30s. I know these people.

>>18550590
I work for a big IM that rhymes with Dathmones and they are NOT competent lmao. Bunch of deanos in their late 20's role playing. If you knew who actually administered and traded your savings you'd shit your pants

>>18550597
They had a bullish earning release, nothing special to moon 6%

>>18550590
>Fund managers didn't get their jobs by panic buying.
You know that most people that work in high finance are only there because they came from rich family's that got them in the door, right?

potentially very good

>>18550157
the recent pump was only caused by the realization that FED will bail-out companies no matter what. However the fact the whole world lost like 2 months of earnings (and probably more in the coming months) still remains. FED is just delaying the negative impact. Best case scenario is that we manage to spread out this negative effect over the next 20 years so it wont trigger an economic collapse... on the other hand it could very well be a ticking time bomb

>>18550766
It was already a ticking time bomb, the bubble just got propped up more and higher and so will the fall be.

Nobody knows when, you can throw around with random timelines. Ghost companies are bailed out left and right, free market is gone, FED will own half of everything.

>>18550766
>could very well be a ticking time bomb
it is a ticking time bomb

1.You guys better make peace with the fact that you lost the bottom and jump in the sooner you can. Until summer the market will reach pre-covid gains.

2. Yes there will be new crashes during autumn because of pre election period. Make sure you draw back then

I don’t know what elseto tell you

>>18550783
every time fed bails out banks and banks give loans to some business it all just funnels back into the feds. and then workers get taxed more so the feds have more money to bail the banks out again. soon we're all gonna be commie slaves getting raped by the govt

>>18550813
its definitely going to crash again once the simps are done wasting their unemployment checks on Nintendo switches. mid june for sure it's going down

>>18550307
Why would it go lower? You realise theres more to the world than the US right?

>>18550813
1. You have no idea what you are speaking of
2. You have no idea what you are speaking of

You know nothing.

Thanks for your input.

>>18550928

>>18550307
https://youtu.be/P4_1pwsm5LY?t=1315
we are here. like fucking pottery

>>18550196
You’re the kind of anon that imagines whales painting the BTC chart all day too aren’t you?

>>18550157
Yes

things are going to get so bad soon there's not going to BE a stock market. screencap this.

>>18550590
Skin in the game? I won't pretend like I've read it, but if you consider the slip in importance of fundamentals, its obvious equity movement modeling has decoupled from reality. They work, but they don't work well enough, and what's worse is when they break it turns into a supermassive clusterfuck. Principally this is "okay", because the people heading these decisions, applying these models, can just cop-out and declare that these events were unpredictable and nothing could be done.

The reality is, historically, recessions occur over and over again, they're predictable as well, about every 10 years according to Dalio, and this is observable. Nassim basically outright predicted this, virus and its economic toll. The question is magnitude. The magnitude gets worse with each one, and yet the timeline is increasingly contracted due to the immediacy of monetary offerings which immediately inflates the economy while people are offered a dismal increase in their purchasing power through inflation.

>>18550157
i would imagine it would if there was no FED but considering they're buying everything how could it go bad?

i mean the market is back to 24k from 19k and it didn't even go down when 6 million unemployment was reported, it no longer reflects reality.

You all seem to forget that the market don’t care about what’s t happening in the present but what’s going to have value in the future. That’s why it went down before the outbreak in the US and that’s why it’s going up before the epidemic is over. That’s why it keeps going up regardless the millions of jobless claims.

>>18551744
The analysis of a 19 yr old.

The stock market will pump into a bull run, starting Monday. Screen cap this and summon me at closing 4pm tomorrow EST. Call me Mr.Shark

>>18550951
you're completely braindead, man

>>18552121
Reddit spacing. Ngmi.

>>18552121
he's not wrong though is he
>>18552209
That doesn't mean what you think it means

>>18550157
bull fags and bears pretending to be bull fags will tell you that it was just a little dip.

the market is about to crash so fucking hard you have no clue.

>>18553571
post your short position or shut up

>>18553571
I’m sorry that you couldn’t buy the bottom and now you’re hoping to get back in, no entry for you

>>18553722
He won't. None of these idiots put money where their mouths are.

>>18550165
Over it has just started

>>18550157
WRONG all the big money pulled out and the Boomer waffen along with the Fed came to the rescue ...

Now all the Stupid Jews that missed the bottom are getting thier cousins in the Media to try to crash the market so they can buy back in because they are greedy little kikes.

It will not go back down and unironically the stupid Goyim gullible and all came up on this dip. Prepare for full bear capitulation soon and all time highs

you brainlets realize that for every day that goes by, the corona situation gets worse and it will be harder to stop. Point of no return have been reached unless they find the cure quick. YOu guys have no idea how bad things will get. The clock is ticking and 50% of the population will get infected soon. For every new person that gets infected, the chance of it mutating increases. And the harder it gets to keep track of all the infected

>>18550172
Cope
>>18550184
Learn economics

>>18552158

HI MR SHARK! I HATE JEWS TOO AND I SWITCHED OVER FROM SQQQ TO SPXL AND AM MAKING BIG BANK NOW ..

>>18553571
>the market is about to crash
Why? Why would anyone sell at a moment like this? This is literally teh dumbest moment to sell stocks.

>>18553847
You didn’t buy the bottom, huh?

>>18553847
Doesnt matter .. If everyone dies of airborne aids tomorrow market still moons on chinese money .. There is never going to be another dip again

>>18550157

no we will simply flip the light switch to turn back on the economy, the engines will restart with no trouble whatsoever.

people who had the virus will actually come back to work stronger and more muscular because the virus is like steroids for the young, only the people who were weak and never really contributed to the workforce will die, we will no longer have to spoon feed them resources

the dow will recover the same price and upward slope before the virus

we mastered the economy with this and learned so much. just simply give people more money and all the problems disappear.

The very last bear market in world history, 6 weeks long

In bear markets, you can get pretty strong rallies. The market is trying to price in a recovery because the virus is more or less contained in the developed world, but the recovery is going to be much longer and more difficult than the market realizes.

For instance, a burn victim may experience a lot of pain and suffering while being burned, but the recovery phase of a burn victim undeniably contains more pain and suffering than the burn phase. We may see riots, looting, even the nationalization of the oil industry in the US.

>>18553916
Nationalization of the dollar and conversion of Federal Reserve Notes to United States Dollars.

>>18553916
>even the nationalization of the oil industry in the US.
Put down the crack pipe and buy some HAL before it goes back up to $71 a share in 5 years

>>18553910
So your volunteering to be a test subject for the virus?

>>18550178
corona recovery is already priced in. we know its only old people dying. the park next to me has never been more full

>>18550307
You're the retard, the stock market isn't the economy

>>18554097
I already had it, I didnt go in to take a test, but I had all the symptoms except shortness of breath (Im a healthy 6 minute mile runner)

It was about 1 week of shitty feels, like 2-3x the malaise of a cold

I would volunteer for any test if the price is right. I'm waiting til they start handing out the antibody tests to make 100 percent sure I really am immune now.

>>18554182
Haha shill no you didn't lmao

>>18554190
We are getting close to 1 million americans who have been so scared that they drove to a hospital or facility to take a test, and the result came back positive

How many Americans are out there, like me, who simply went to bed and took it like a man.

A lot more than you think

>>18554182
antibody tests don't rely 100% if you are immune or not, sorry to tell you.

>>18554085
What happens when oil is still sub $25 for the next 5 years? How do any of these companies make money? They will all be flirting with bankruptcy.

>>18550157
Nope just keep buying doesn’t matter what the price is stinks only go up

>>18554269
I don't buy into that shit, I took biology courses in school.

You're immune after your body defeats it, that's why vaccines work

>>18550843
>commie slaves raped by gov
America following Chinese model. It´s over communism won

>>18554264
No one cares about your 401k

>>18554321
You cant be this retarded right?

>>18554453
Bet.

>>18550184
Have sex

>>18554453

why? yeah, i know it can mutate but can you post some facts or cite something to prove me wrong?

Were there people in 1917 who got the same strain twice? I went to college I like to see data not feeling-based emotion posts

>>18554453
very high iq argument

>>18550157
They already were. We're on an upward trajectory now.

>>18551525
i like how this graph conveniently leaves out the total return (i.e., dividends of 5% over the period). also you swing the timespan by a couple years earlier/later it changes everything. so yes, if your investment timeline is a very specific set of years, you may have less than 7% a year, thanks for the tip.

>>18550471
>ITT: Dinosaurs who dont understand modern monetary theory

If what youre saying was true gold would be 10k by now.

>>18550766
Scarcity is an illusion. The fed will just print us out of any crisis. If you only had any idea how much of our economy is unnecessary but continues on simply from inertia.

Markets are going up tomorrow. Book it, Maggle.

>>18554321
Ok i am out. /biz/ is srly only filled with retards anymyore. Even the 2017 peak use due to crypto wasn't as terrible as right now.

You must be the god in every single subject, after taking 1 course. :*

>>18554663

Thanks, I was ready to read any article you had ready but looks like you couldn't find one.

>>18554501
SARS antibodies didn't necessarily immunize victims. Covid might possess similar qualities. This was recently admitted by the WHO, that a vaccine may never exist that offers guaranteed immunity. Moreover we've seen recurrent infection in KR at the very least, but other reports exist elsewhere indicating that it's possible to recontract the illness.

>>18550307
no one knew the limit the fed were prepared to go to, they can delay the crash for years

>>18550157
the fed announced that they will do whatever they need to (unlimited money printing, no rates ....) to prevent a crash?
what make you think it's gonna crash more

>>18554308
If oil stays that cheap for 5 years... ooohhh

>>18550200
Checked black ID, but it's not gonna take months.

>>18555322
kek you're depending on government being competent and timely, good luck with that.

>>18551744
Agree

>>18552230
>he's not wrong though is he
he is. they should forbid stock trading to institutional investors only, the market is to volatile for the public at large

>>18554616
>muh us economy stronk
>fully depends on china

Pick one dipshit.

Why do I have to contact RH to exercise early instead of just having the option on the app?

>>18550307
>channel called goldsilver shills for gold and silver and claims best place to keep your money is in gold and silver because market will crash
>he thinks this is some objective source
>calls other people low IQ

>>18550157
>20,000,000 unemployed?
Priced in
>Share buybacks coming to an end?
Priced in
>Mass defaults in home, auto, and student loans?
Priced in
>Fed printers BRRRRing like never before?
Priced in
>Mass bankruptcies, both personal and business?
PRICED IN

You faggots just don't understand do you. This shit was priced in decades ago. Long before you were swimming around in your Dad's balls the psychic gestalt that is the public markets had already priced in everything that would happen until centuries after your death. There is no event that has ever, could ever, or will ever occur that is not already known to the highfalutin experts on Wall Street. Until the very last gasp of the universe, the heat death and total entropy of all existence, and even after that, there are no possible scenarios or occurrences that are not already reflected in the strike price of six months call options on SPY.

>>18550157
the coming week is make or break
before definitive break

>>18550157

Priced in

>>18555322
Why didn't they prevent the Feb-March crash?

>>18556914
based

the V-ening is coming

>>18552158
lol yes because 1 day after a few weeks of slight upswing is going to be proof that we are in bull. give it 2 months and if there's still an upward trend I'll believe you

>>18553729
>>18553869
don't sell if you're just investing. but it is going to crash again. buying withing the past weeks was a smart move but if someone missed it there's definitely opportunity to buy again soon. there will be a bigger crash. anyone that bought at "the bottom" could sell soon though and reinvest their small profit/diversify