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https://twitter.com/DocuSign/status/1249762777406701568

>>18453735
literally dumping

>>18453735
Be sure to watch the vid in that tweet.

If you ever had any doubts about how normie-friendly and convenient smart contracts will be, just watch how they drag and drop smart clauses, pic related.

>>18453744
Checked, its just a hype to create a hype liquidity for Sergey and Tom final 700M dump.

You just win

>>18453744
Cope subhuman, you had two years

>>18453754
Checked what, cuck?

We will all make it frens but only if you reply to this post with:

Thank you Sergey I love you

it doesn’t say any single fucking thing about chainlink you stupid delusional cucks.

>>18453727
A crypto project with a small marketcap is doing something slightly similar and has this feature already integrated in kakaotalk

>>18453794
>he doesnt know

>>18453799
Imagine investing in something called kakaotalk

Fuck. Yeah.

>>18453794
>smart contracts, oracles, Tom Gonser
>"I-IT'S NOT CHAINLINK REEEEE"

What a fucking awful idea, lets get rid of B2B relationships and use robot logic because Corona means the business your dealing with should lose 50% of a sale cos contract says so. Way to fuck up a good relationship. Awful idea for low IQ people.

>>18453818
tom gosner no longer in docusign board, he literally has no formal connection with docusign AT ALL

>>18453794
And this is why some of us won't make it. Lack of basic understanding.

>>18453812
yeah imagine...Also I said that a crypto project has a similar feature integrated with kakaotalk already (not shit project klaytn btw)

>>18453820
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SETTLE CLAUSES AUTOMATICALLY, THINK ABOUT THE LAWYERINOS; THE LITIGIOUS ADVOCATORINOOOOOOS

>>18453820
OK, boomer.

>>18453818
>chainlink is the only thing using smart contracts and oracles

Codius was around 5 years before chainlink you delusional nigger.

>>18453830
COPE
OOPE
PPPE
EEEE

>>18453840
>>18453836
Literally fucking who?

>>18453820
>lets get rid of B2B relationships and use robot logic

>>18453850
Fucking ape

>>18453850
Ripple

>>18453865
Nope

>>18453727
So we put the centralization (point of failure on DHL, fedex, or UPS)

This has always been a bad use case in my opinion, but that was still a very sleek video.

I still disagree with this as an application of smart contracts though.

>>18453830
>>18453840
Imagine coping this poorly.

>>18453891
>physical delivery companies are centralized points of failure
You're a dumbass.

>>18453908
You’re relying on their IT systems not to fail
You’re relying on the delivery driver not to deliver to the wrong place and confirm it was delivered thus automatically charging the business for no product


I’m glad you had an argument to debate my point.

Things have moved quickly. Link is going to moon something fierce.

>>18453727

Jesus. They did it. They actually did it.

the madman pulled it off

>>18453919
>You’re relying on their IT systems not to fail
>You’re relying on the delivery driver not to deliver to the wrong place and confirm it was delivered thus automatically charging the business for no product
There are more ways to confirm delivery than internal IT and tracking systems.
Also, companies like shipping companies and couriers are adopting decentralized tracking methods themselves.

Shit like package deliveries, flight delays, ... are posterchildren for mainstream smart contracts.

>>18453840
And mobius, sir. Don't forget mobius

>>18453948
That’s fine and all but the single point of failure still lies within the delivery driver. They deliver it to the wrong place and the system fails. If it’s more cost effective to do it and eat the loss than to do regular payments then yeah it’ll work

But imo a better example of decentralized info is say price feeds or weather feeds that you can get from multiple different sources, Sergeys defense in depth approach basic boils down to kicking the can down the road with points of failure with so many redundancies you can trust the system

I still don’t like this application, but if it’s used it’s used.

>>18453982
>>18453891
>>18453919
Nigger supply chain is one of THE iconic use cases and areas of development for blockchain in general.

Go cope in the corner.

>>18453982
To add to this, sure you could have a sensor confirm the correct address, and automate it so nobody signs off on it but what If the sensor fails

What if someone signs off on the package to open it up and it’s not right?

>>18453982
>That’s fine and all but the single point of failure still lies within the delivery driver.
>They deliver it to the wrong place and the system fails.
They deliver to the wrong place and the smart contract automatically triggers compensation for the error.

That's what the whole thing is for lmao.

/newb/ here guys, can someone explain to me what’s this whole cryptocurrency is about? Can you actually cash this stuff out?

>>18453995
That wasn’t in the demonstration.

>>18454002
Faulty delivery literally was in the demonstration; a percentage is triggered for late delivery.

>>18453779
Thanks just sold 700k

>>18453727
>Cmd + F "chainlink"
>0 (ZERO) results

>>18453919
>You’re relying on the delivery driver not to deliver to the wrong place and confirm it was delivered thus automatically charging the business for no product


gee if only there was some decentralized crystal ball, you know, like fortune teller or an oracle or something, that could use multiple sources of information.

>>18453727
>>18453735
> Cloud agreements
> Smart clauses
Are you sure this even uses a blockchain with a middleware made by a fat russian scammer?

>>18453876
https://codius.org/

Retard

>>18453982
>delivery driver gets to the right address with the delivery
>person inspects the goods
>if everything looks OK, he signs it digitally
>smart contract is triggered
>driver gets message, the the delivery has been paid
>everyone is happy
It's not so fucking hard now, is it?

>>18453727
Docusign doesnt have a partnership with chainlink the. Theyve got theyre own tech theyre rolling out.

>>18454167
Step back, breathe in, calm down, now try typing that again without tripping over your fingers from maximum overcope.

>>18454166
Checked. In the real world here's what would happen
> Driver is a nigger and steals the package
> Forges the customer's signature
> Customer is a sóy cuck desu and doesn't complain after the nig fucks his wife while he's at home playing Xbox live
Hard af man

>>18454215
>Forges the customer's signature
You could try to do that in the old world, but you can't do that with a digital signature. That's what the whole blockchain thing is for.

>>18454275
Are you saying that crimes suddenly become Impossible? I'd have to say that criminals will become smarter and do it another way

>>18454374
>Are you saying that crimes suddenly become Impossible?
Forging a digital signature becomes all but impossible, yes.

>>18454090
There are no smart contracts without blockchain.
For a long time, smart contracts were a nice theory, and then blockchain provided the first backbone to make them reality.

Plus, see >>18453780

>>18453919
Welcome to the oracle problem newfag, now let me tell you about the solution shilled here for years.

>>18454374
Are you suggesting that nigger delivery drivers start breaking cryptographically secure encryption and beat the most renowned mathematicians in the world at their game just to steal your package of beats headphones?
And we linkies are the delusional ones?

>>18454850
Comfy as then. When will normans be using this?

>>18455192
Not to be racist but I am suggesting that black people steal using any means at their disposal.

>>18455213
>black people steal
No one denies that
>means at their disposal
That's where the delusion kicks in

>>18455234
I never said anything about them getting away with it

>>18455293
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO FAKE A DIGITAL SIGNATURE IF IT WAS CREATED WITH THE RIGHT CRYPTHOGRAPHICAL METHOD.
If it would be so easy, why hasn't anyone just re-generated a private key for satoshi wallets?

>>18453779
Thank you Sergey I love you

>>18453749
wont someone think of the lawyers!!?

>>18455331
Regarding the shipment of goods I think that mistakes will made and those in the know usually employees will be able to exploit them. Inside the system I'm sure the keys are safe blah blah but to continue the analogy exchanges are hacked all the time.

And it will use KLEROS behind the scenes to make sure the errors are corrected by their B2B blockchain lawyers.

>>18455205
next 5 years? they'll start using it when it becomes a job to properly configure smart contracts for businesses

>>18453727
don't try to reason with those double digit iq street shitting pajeets out here, old /biz/ is gone and not posting.

>>18455416
But my pee pee might not pew pew by then frens

>>18455205
See >>18453749

This shit is extremely normie friendly already; just a matter of drag and drop.
People will be able to create and enforce their own contracts without needing a lawyer or notary or anything at all.
It's the difference between having to go to a post office to send a letter, and getting to just email things yourself from your home.
There will be a lot more casual contracts being made because it's so easy, plus there's zero reason to fear that the other party's going to flake out. This is going to absolutely explode.

>>18454215
heres what happens in the real real world
>driver is forced to scan QR code of package at the smart doorbell of the house which is recording the event by camera to make sure he's not taking it back to the truck
mailbox's are literally obsolete

3 years and this is the best they can do? It's a fucking joke.

>>18455692
How much you holding?

>>18455692
There is more going on that we don't know about, I'm sure. Also, ask yourself how long BTC was to be had for under a hundred Dollars, until the world woke up to the genius of it.

>>18455433
Then you get to take it to your grave like a neet Pharaoh

>>18455747
>Also, ask yourself how long BTC was to be had for under a hundred Dollars, until the world woke up to the genius of it.
bitcoin worked as intended from the beginning. the link token still doesn't do anything after 3 years.

>>18455442
this COULD absolutely explode, there's no sure thing, but it's got the potential to be the next BTC circa 2009 for sure

>>18455692
>3 years and this is the best they can do?
What the fuck is that even supposed to mean lmao.
In the last 3 years, Chainlink also had Swift, Google Cloud, Oracle, ETH, ... not to mention half of crypto.

>>18455988
That is just untrue.

>>18455192
Never underestimate the cunning of the sub-Saharan in relation to it's ability for capitalizing on "free" and gibs.

They may still live in mud huts to this day, but know more welfare scams than all our greatest scholars combined.

>27 Retweets 69 Likes

okay so where are the decentralized oracles to make any of this shit work

>>18455433
checked

>>18453749
Is there already automatic processing of law lingo or common language, that puts logic processes and shiet in the smart contracts?

>>18453779
Thank you Sergey I love you

>>18453727
>>18453749
>>18453780
I'm confused. How is this related to chainlink? Did Tom Gonser personally worked on this project? Is it because the tweet tagged smartcontract? I'm not trying to fud. I don't see the connection.

>>18456270
all over the place

>>18453794
imagine being on this board for any length of time and still being this retarded.

Not even mad.

>>18456315
Non disclosure agreements are a son of a bitch, aren't they

>>18456315
>>18456270
The smart clauses/contracts Docusign is talking about involve external data, which means they require oracles.
There's one certain project that dominates the oracle space, and is a personal favorite of Docusign co-founder Tom Gonser.

>>18456315
does anyone else feel literal physical disgust when they see comments like this?

>>18456375
please don't waste your time explaining it to them anon, let them miss out.

Appreciate the thread OP, this is adoption and the UX is on point. Normies won't even know they're using the underlying network.

>>18456315
Tom Gosner is an advisor go back and lurk more

>>18456405
>>18456407
we were all no-linkers once anons, we will need a few normies at the yacht party so the rest of the world can see what they missed out on from their many social media accounts

>>18453837
>>18453839
>>18453853
>he coerced me to sign contract
>he sent me the wrong contract
>I think this contract is unfair/has void clause according to INSERT_JURISDICTION

oops, looks like we need to go to court!

>>18456350
>>18456375
>>18456405

Gosner Boi hasn't been involved with Docusign since mid 2018 it seems.
Does anyone have anything to counter this image???

>>18456582
>he coerced me to click "ok" on the wrong contract!
lmao

There will still be court cases, of course. But far fewer since everything is automatic, out in the open, unfalsifiable, and instantly verifiable by anyone.

>>18456636
>can anyone counter this public knowledge from 2018???
Nobody's saying he's still on the board. But Gonser is obviously still very much connected with Docusign.

>>18456709
>in the open
Yeah I totally want to record my AliExpress dragon dildo purchase onto the blockchain for eternity

>>18456295
Is this a serious question or do you just want me to handfeed openlaw to these redditniggers?

>>18453794
true. i guess there's nothing to celebrate

or is there

>>18456786
The relevant details of the transaction you dolt.

>>18453794
>there are people this stupid, so far detached from the real world that they think a billion dollar company is going to headline the middleware that they use in their new cutting edge product
>there are people this stupid who still think their fud does anything
you had 3 years you fucking retard, kys

>>18453727
>>18453735
Literally every data input and payments output from the slides
And the contract will execute through arbitrum

We own the future

>>18453794
YAAAWWNNN
I'm getting sleepy.

>>18453749
I see WYSIWYG except for smart contracts?

>>18456920
Thanks, I remember reading something along those lines on /biz/, I didn't have this idea so it's already there
This is quite amazing, we're all gonna make it

>>18453749
Solicitors and paralegals on suicide watch
Kek

>>18453727
HOLY SHIT A TIM GONZOS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>18456582
This doesn't make any more sense than "They tricked me into agreeing to the terms of service"

>>18458328
Holy fuck this is insane.

>>18453779
youre a waste of life sergey kill yourself

>>18456315
Anon...

There is quite literally an hour long video of Tom Gonser talking with Sergey by a fire basically shilling chainlink and discussing the potential for the future. Naturally it only has like 5K views for some reason

>>18458720
I the Sun ov man
The offspring ov the stellar race
My halo fallen and crushed upon the earth
That I may bring balance to this world
I son ov perdition
From sheer nothingness transgressed
Unto the highest self, to utmost freedom
To explore the starry nature ov my rage
I pulse ov existence
The law ov nature undenied
I hold the torch ov Heraclites
So I can shake the earth and move the sun
I divine Iconoclast

fucking lambo wen

>>18458824
Never again in France.

>>18458824
Where did Macron find such handsome youths to adopt?

>>18458778
Fire has been used to keep savages at bay for time immemorial.

>>18453749
even tho i hold LINK and have my future wealth and happiness tied to its mooning, i still know deep down that there's no chance in a million that out-of-the-box consumer smart contracts will ever take off. if LINK is to go anywhere, it wont be via this route.

>>18453799
klatn?

A

FUCKING

TOKEN

What does this mean for kleros

>>18459415
What the fuck is kleros

>>18453794

Newfags are pathetic.

>>18458928
You're a dumbass to be frank with you.

>>18455442
>People will be able to create and enforce their own contracts without needing a lawyer or notary or anything at all.

Good luck trying to navigate the court system, rules of evidence, etc.

>>18458928
>dude, I’m like, smart

>>18453820
OOOOOOOOOOOH WAGIE
(nico.png)

>>18459582
You have no idea what lawyers are for, do you?

>>18459582
Peer-to-peer smart contracts largely sidestep all that.
That's part of the point.

>>18453830
And he is now an advisor to Chainlink. Are you really that dense that you can't put 2 and 2 together?

>>18459449
>What the fuck is kleros
New?

>>18453761
you sound like a triggered bagholder. you had 2 months to dump above 5 dollars. cope fucktard

>>18459831
>New
No
Literally who?

>>18459533
The normie money should be a fraction of the size of the institutional war chest.

>>18460251
No.
Bitcoin went from less than 1 cent to 20k largely on normie money.

>>18459449
it's nothing

>>18460455
Once it all goes mainstream, it is game over. Game over for millions of people. Game over for office stallions... and probably good for them. They can learn to become real men again. You need to see it in a positive light

>>18453735
>>18453749
>>18453727

holy shit you guys are retarded. the tweet is about interactive document-builders from Docusign that let you drag and drop TEXT-BASED CLAUSES into your contract. these are not smart contracts from a blockchain perspective AT ALL.

>>18462398
Buddy, those are literally "smart clauses".

>>18462398
link is literally fucking ripple at this point
thank you twitter faggots for bringing the biggest retards in the space into the fold for 0 price increase
hope the followers were worth it

>>18462398
At ALL!

>>18453779
Thank you Sergey I love you

>>18453779
Thank you Sergey I love you

>>18453727
Thank you Sergey I love you

>>18453820
>Awful idea for low IQ people.
What if we made a global virus that only effected sub-100 IQ humans?

>>18462441
Link is not Ripple, nor will t ever be.

>>18453727
>>18453735
>>18453749
>>18453754
I've literally sued people for faking this bullshit, and blockchain ain't gonna solve shit. Yeah, your bar code arrived here on a piece of cardboard, now where's my $4M in goods? Oh, don't worry, blockchain says they arrived.

>>18453836
>investing in anything Chinese, ever. Enjoy getting chinked

>>18462548
So predicate final payment on your personal digital signature.
God you're dumb.

>>18462548
Go sue me then directly: Chainlink is real. All partnerships are real, and this will happen no matter if you like it or not.

>>18453779
Thank you Sergey I love you

>>18453779
>Thank you Sergey I love you

>>18453779
>Thank you Sergey I love you
Thank you Sergey I love you

>>18453779
Thank you Sergey I love you

I love Sergey too

Oh well, if you are all so nice, I love Sergey to too... this is so gay that it makes me puke.