/biz/ - Business & Finance

How many stocks do you typically hold?

The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated

>>18368014
5, but i am underinvested
i missed the bottom

>>18368036
How do you choose which single stocks to own?

>>18368036
>i missed the bottom
are you new?

>>18368041
think of yourself as an investor in a company, rather than buying bags. find a company that you trust and buy their stocks. it is easy as that.

>>18368041
Nigga... How new are you? Lurk before posting how bout it. You'll learn that way too.

Ready for the oil moon?

>>18368041
i research them, but i mainly buy cheap stuff to speculate on future rises
>>18368048
yes, though I waited since 2011 for this "crisis"

>>18368050
Most of the people here look like they're just trying to pump and dump their way to a profit instead of actually caring about the companies they put their money into.

>100 posts early thread
>doesnt link to old thread
OP please learn some common courtesy

>>18368056
I guess,
holding RDS 4/9c 38 Strike
2 Shares of EQM
3 Shares of SCO

>>18368056

>>18368070

shhh bears are sleeping

>>18368070
I don't get what you're saying. Making a quick profit off of trends and news is just as valid as doing research into the long term potential of a specific company and holding its shares. Especially during this clown market. Under normal circumstances, yes, the former is more risky, but it's always more fun. And that's what we do here - have fun. Memers, shitposters, shillers, and gamblers alike. We're all just having fun.

The only proof you need that the markets are bullshit is a walk around your city. Felt like 28 days later.

>>18368172
Okay. I lurk a lot but I never really thought of it quite like that.

>>18368056
I hold WT, i expect 500 euros of profit before going to bed (I got a baby bank account)

OPEC guys, pray for me holding some oil stocks atm

Sorry, /newb/ here, i want to buy some oil shares through Robinhood, but I understand the market is closed. If I place an order right now, will it be the same price? Or does the market start off with different prices?

the market has been a clown market since the 70's, it's only obvious now because it has been taken to its exteme

HELL IS COMING

>>18368218
you make a buy order at your desired price, if a sell order matches your order then you will get the shares. it is like ebay but for shares.

>>18368227
Do you think I should do so right now or wait until the market opens up and see if there’s an upward trend?

>>18368004
you niggers are dumb. a bunch of pansies who dont have the balls to put all your savings into a cd thats inside a roth ira so you cant take money out even if you have to pay bills

>>18368056
Yeah, 3k in a oil certificate. When will get news from the meeting?

>>18368239
i am not an expert but right now it looks to me like you're buying someone's bags and the market is likely to crash with no survivors.

>>18368240
(you)

>>18368240
Nice bait

has anyone done a mega backdoor using fidelity?

>>18368271
I'm supposed to look into this, any tips?

>>18368036
You missed the first leg down. The bottom is SPY 180, probably some time in September.

>>18368252
Based Bobro
>>18368239
Dawg what it comes down to is this - do you think OPEC+ will come to an agreement at the meeting or not? If yes, buy shares (you'd be better off being awake at 930am to do it manually). If not, don't buy shares. Obviously there's many more factors, but you can make your own assessments of those champ, cause i dont fuckin know. It's a gamble.

>>18368225
Oh fuck.

>>18368225
What does that mean

>>18368325
>>18368378
*cries on CNBC*

>>18368271
Mega... back... door?

Green?

>futures solid green again
This market isn't even pretending it might go down

>>18368461
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/blog/2020-03-26-coronavirus-news-n1169196/ncrd1169671

>>18368475
he posted on instagram he's fine now

What happened in 2016?

>>18368399
So this guy was short and then cried on cnbc hoping to influence the market and make money.
Very respectable.

>>18368501
trump

>>18368036
>i missed the bottom
It’s not the bottom, but I regret not waiting until after the stimulus passed to move my 401k to cash. Could’ve gotten an extra 10-15% principal to play with when the real slump kicks in thanks to mortgages and loans going bad en masse.

Hoping the market takes a dive before Phase 4 passes as Q1 earnings come in. It’d be nice to ride the next big wave of retarded optimism for a week to get back some of my earlier losses.

>>18368501
Remember when we thought 2016 was peak happening, with Trump, Brexit, migrants, Syria, etc?

This market will really reach an ath when the second lockdown is about to start...

>>18368252
I work in EMS and hospital EDs are slower tonight than they have been in weeks, since well before this coronavirus junk happened. The happening has been canceled and the market is going to make a historic recovery.

>>18368215
we gonna make it anon

>>18368509
I don't think we're going to see the true effect these past few months have had until 2nd quarter earnings. Till then I think the general trend will be up. However If one would buy in, I'd wait a bit first, there's likely to be another small selling off after the mad gainz from this week.

>>18368565
Based. I only threw 10k in because that's all I had, but Im wishing I had dipped into my "don't touch" savings fund when it was lower last week.

>>18368559
it is because of the lockdown. once the lockdown is lifted expect the cases to sky rocket. people are too dumb to wear masks and follow commons sense like hygiene and such.

>>18368584
And? What is the threat of this meme virus? fatlity rate isn't even close to what ppl predicted.

>>18368582
I dipped into my savings because I have a secure job that I started a year ago. was using this 30k for a house down payment but decided to wait for the real estate market to go down. Minus well use whatever capital i can afford to gamble

>>18368470
They're still slightly green but a big red candle just appeared a few minutes ago.

>>18368602
time lag, it takes a while to kill. look at Italy.

>>18368584
>people are too dumb to wear masks
Why would you assume this? I'm not wearing a mask right now because literally I can't fucking find any anywhere. Literally I'm using a Shemagh at the moment because nobody anywhere near me has masks of any kind in stock

>>18368610
Once again. Fatality rate isn't even close to what ppl predicted. No matter the time lag or whatever you are trying to argue with. Not spoonfeeding you with statistics.

opec deal is a no go russians are backing off, weaking the rouble instead

>>18368602
This >>18368610 it doesn't kill you the moment you're infected. Expect the death rate to peak 7-10 days after the new case rate does.

>2 threads during early hours
Why

>>18368605
>Minus well

Tell me you're trolling

>>18368629
the other doesn't have /smg/ in the title

>>18368611
people still don't care about social distancing unless they are forced to, fact. I still see people letting their children play around in parks, sun tanning etc. people are used to do whatever they want and don't listen to some guidelines setup by the government if it isn't enforced. ask yourself why western countries have more cases than asian countries.

>>18368584
Maybe but I think we’ll be a lot more prepared to handle new cases and slow the spread once the lockdowns end. People are building good habits now and hopefully will stay germaphobic for some time.

>tfw been bagholding SQQQ for nine days now
>every time /smg/ says the market is about to dip, it pumps
h-help m-me

>>18368559
I’m a FF/Medic in a large city and we have been getting our asses reamed as per usual. In fact, it’s getting worse. My city is 65% black though, for what it’s worth.

>>18368618
sauce? Most recent news I'm seeing is an article form the financial post. Standard already reported news but it has a suggestion from "two Russian sources" that Russia is coming to the table with an offer of 2 million BPD cut, max. No word on Saudis. They also want US to cut and do not consider the natural production decline due to low demand as part of a possible deal.
https://business.financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/saudi-russia-debate-record-oil-cut-as-u-s-resists-action

>>18368680
you are not supposed to hold it over the night you idiot

>>18368655
this was exactly my point. thank you anon. once the lockdown is lifted it will be a disaster because the average western has never seen real danger in their lives. they can't comprehend the idea of death so they do whatever dumb shit comes to their mind.

>>18368680
It's ok fren, I right there with you, gonna try and make some play on oil today to off set my losses.

>>18368690
friend in rosneft

>that early morning gold pump
Based chinks

>>18368680
I just went double or nothing on my short position, gonna close it before market closure today
have this photo of a cat I took at my garden yesterday to cheer you up

what is this pattern called?

>>18368744
ded kek nonce

>>18368706
Yes you are, the whole point of leverage is to enjoy the gap up and downs no the boring intraday movements

>>18368731
Good cat.

>>18368744
Low, high, higher low, higher high. Bullish. Volume a little iffy, stop loss goes under the higher low.

>>18368618
If this is true today is going to be battle of the machines and battle of the paniced oil investors

>>18368899
obviously it isn't true otherwhise futures would be red over red

Same as yesterday? we pumping again?

Speaking oil, the trading has been pretty lively tonight. Lots of movement both ways.

>>18368004

fauci is pretty confident the us will have a cure soon

opec will make a deal

it s over bears. ps : you guys lost the bottom

>tfw had a dream we were at -15

>>18368936
confident or not, buying at this time is absolute madness.

>>18368629
Because oil proxy war

What's up with that ~3% of mortgages going unpaid? How bullish and priced in is that my fellow GFC veterans?

NASDAQ RED AAAAAAA

>>18368951

true, but it s even worse to gamble with options like most smg is doing

Zoom admits calls got 'mistakenly' routed through China
ahhahaahahahah man....

Why is no one talking about this
https://shrm.org/hr-today/trends-and-forecasting/research-and-surveys/Documents/SHRM%20CV19%20Research%20Workforce%20Implications.pdf?_ga=2.2753968.1689644385.1586412130-1582375845.1586412130
Under quarantine...
>58% say they will be unable to meet their basic financial needs in one month or less.

>>18368751
noice

>>18368936
>Fauci said that a month ago
>OPEC + Russia has no reason to slow down the oil war since the whole point is to bankrupt US shale

>>18369001
it is nothing goy, please take hold of my bags, you will make profit. market is bull, i promise.

>>18368993
kek the MSS is intercepting communications and trolling zoomers
kind of based?

>>18369001
Bullish

>>18369013
Do you understand that russia lives from oil? ppl are so short minded, sure it is a goal for them, but they cannot do it forever and if SA and russia are smelling a good deal, they will.

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Please tell me how today is looking out to be

>>18369033
Outlook unclear. Ask again later.

>>18369033
crabbish

>>18369054
ok, I like a good crab.
But I still want a good bear run in April

>>18369014
No.

>>18368951
>>18368978
cope. i’m making a killing in options on the way back up.

>>18369033
JPOW giving his Speech from the Printer Room and the OPEC meeting are both happening at 10 EST

>>18369079
>that feel when pretty soon we won't be able to post JPOWdawg memes because he can find us using mercenaries he hires through blackrock with the money printer
Dark timeline

>>18369079
this can only mean - ULTIMATE BAZOOKA - PLUS OPEC DEAL = 25k DoW

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/asset-manager-warns-of-a-huge-selloff-forecasting-a-global-financial-crisis-level-recession-2020-04-09

is this, dare I say, BULLISH?

>>18368023

how so? fake dead bodies lmao?

>>18368004

well,
- unemployment numbers
- fucking russkies and oil
- number of US cases

finally we will see red today

>>18369133
which means its gonna be green lmao

>>18369107
the boomers in the comments are alright kek

>>18369133

>>18369133
DAX is crabwalking. blood will be spilled after easter.

>>18369133
Trumpbux via direct deposit "should" be starting next Monday. We're guaranteed green for today. As to when the great reddening will happen, be it next week, or next month, time will tell.

reddit me on this:
what if i want a medium-term gold play? i want some leverage like 2x or 3x, but i don’t want to mess with the nightly rebalancing of the ultra long ETFs. are GLD calls my only option?

>>18369158

no, lmao. unemployment claims will be 10 mil, fucking russkies will fucked by no deal, and the cases will on record daily increase

>>18369205
yeah so, as if we hadnt bad news for the last two weeks, OPEC meeting is the only thing which may influence it but thats probably already priced it, everyone is expecting a no deal

I'm of two minds right now /smg/, help me decide
>a long weekend during a pandemic during a recession during an oil crisis is spooky, I should go all cash and see what Monday does
>the market has been consistently gapping up on mondays, and a long weekend means more time for market shifting news to accumulate; I should go balls deep into HSU and stay 100% long

>Tomorrow is blood red
green
>b-but tomorrow BLOOD red

Siiiiip * aahhhh *
Sorry anon, did you say you were bearish? That's too bad

>FTSE and DAX are tracking each other almost exactly
The battle of machines today will be legendary.

>>18369246
give me a quick rundown on the battle of the machines? you mean algos trading with each other?

>>18369246
You mean they follow the DoW and S&P futures like any other index?

>>18369193
Buy gold certificates. Here's an example:
https://www.avanza.se/borshandlade-produkter/certifikat-torg/om-certifikatet.html/991433/bull-guld-x15-ava-2

>>18369254
of course not, he means transformers vs terminators

>>18369280
kewl

>>18369277
certificates also have rebalancing tho

>>18369180
the dax was going up until the US500 FUTURES WOULD NOT STOP DUMPING LIKE CRAZY
((WHO)) MIGHT HAVE ARRANGED THIS BULLSHIT.
THIS MUST BE A TRAP OR I WILL LOSE EVERYTHING FUCK IT

Daily reminder that if you are reading this you are better at making and selling 737 Max airplanes than Boeing.

are we recovering frens? was out of the loop the past 2 weeks, went to my innawoods lodge to fish and hunt while this virus bs blows over.

UBER goes to 40

IT IS SO FUCKING SUSPICIOUS THAT OIL IS GOING UP AND FUTURES ARE DUMPING
THIS IS A FUCKING SETUP

>>18368036
Lol how did you miss it? Are you from the future?
>We are not even half way there.

>>18369315
>he bought the dump

THE OIL WAR WILL COME TO AN END AND ((THEY)) ALREADY KNOW AND WANT YOU TO GO SHORT NOW

>>18369351
would make sense why oil is pumping, someones expecting a deal?

>>18369325
i kek'd audibly

>>18368688
That's ptsd worthy, fuck that

>>18368630
posts like that are a diamond dozen anon

>Trump opens economy end of April
>Trump-bux arrive at the same time
>Quarantine weary consumers unleash pent up demand
>Market hits ATH week after week

Search your feelings; you know it to be true

>>18368004
When is the oil meeting?

>>18368744
dead cat bouncing off ur dick u sick fuck

>>18369415
Name a more consistent sell signal than Trump tweeting about the stock market.

im stuck ball deep in puts
down 70%

>>18369420
should start in 3h20min

>>18369415
BOOOOM SPY 160

>>18369468
Well, you might get burned due to pre-opec pump but if you handle that, it's all down from there.

>>18369001
Who cares? They will just give them money anyway and print some additional few trillions to support the markets

>>18368559
>>18368688
>in ems

Get out as fast as you can

>>18369468
>70%
How many dollars?

>>18369067
>But I still want a good bear run in April
Me too but it is not going to happen. We missed the bottom. Corona is cancelled.

Contemplating going in on some x6 oil bear certs, am i retarded?

>>18369484
>and print some additional few trillions to support the markets
i also love paying 1million Zimbabwean dollars to get a loaf of bread. how long can they keep getting away with printing money?

>stocks at monthly high after a huge crash and rocket recovery on a Thursday before a long weekend while the country is on lockdown amidst a global pandemic

I’m not even a bearnigger but you have to be a fucking retard to buy today.

>>18369327
That's comfy anon

Trump's kids tweeting about the stock market

>>18369492
Anything related to oil now is basically playing slot machines

>>18369492
sell the news - might work!

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18369508
Bullish

how mentally retarded and high on brainless tribalism and hopium do you have to be to think the economy is going to survive this event?
>b-b-but im trading the stock market not the economy....
ahh yes because the stock market has traditionally done well during times of deep recession.

>>18369505
that's why I'm strongly considering it, it's the ultimate contrarian play, going all in on 3x index ETFs on a thursday before a long weekend during a recession during a pandemic during an oil crisis

>>18369555
wojack detected post discarded

>>18369555
checked
what is the economy, in your own words

>>18369559
based

People actually think oil is gonna moon? Even if everyone cut with 10-15 million, the demand is at an all time low and storage has never been so filled before.

>>18369555
like 23 boomers coofed to death and you think the world is gonna end. retarded doomer

>>18369584
Oil futures respond even more coherently to reality than the general stock market. They will moon even if trump just says the word oil.

>>18369415

Not so fast

What the fuck is a good general stock app? I use Fidelity as my brokerage but their app is absolute Boomer tier shit where you can't even see graphs for symbols or anything since it's used less as a one stop shop and more as a quick-peak at your portfolio.

I guess Robin Hood looks pretty good but I don't wanna actually use them.

>>18369584
You really have no ability to be forward thinking do you?

>>18369604
*incoherently
A lot of the price right now is feedback from the market which felt a deal was coming because the futures were rising....because the market was pricing it higher, etc.

>>18369555
>deep recession.
Why must we have a recession? The federal government put everything on hold and bailed out everyone. Whats going to happen to cause a recession now?

>>18369608
Ameritrade. Interactive Brokers if you want to try writing your own code.
RH is trash and it will likely be that, years from now, we'll find out they did a lot of shady shit behind the scenes.

>>18369621
nothing is gonna happen. some people are just sad that life is passing them by without anything happening ever

>>18369555
>brainless tribalism

>>18369578
main street is getting killed out there. the stock market has decoupled from reality

>>18369599
oh my fucking god for the last time, the stock market measures the health of businesses not the health of the general public. stop conflating the health crisis with the economic crisis YOU. STUPID. NIGGER.

>>18369621
>Why must we have a recession?
Yeah exactly. Bulls are so fucking ignorant. Guess what? The economy was showing signs of weakness before the virus even existed. If you think it's going to survive this mass extinction event you are going to get burned.
>The federal government put everything on hold and bailed out everyone
They did not bail out everyone, far from it, nor will they be able to without completely killing the dollar.

>>18369555
checked and nice bait kek

>>18369485
would you believe i was a CRNA before i did this? i just like firefighting, it's more fun.

>>18369392
its not that bad, it might get better considering the demographics which this virus targets

>>18369641
>The economy couldn't possible tank under Trump's watch! The president has direct control of the stock market and the economy! Our tribe never ever ever loses!
I voted for trump btw.

>>18369653
I work at SEA and hate the demographics as it is, guess you found your tolerance level. Mines 0.

>>18369621
Like an actual recession rather than some nominal 2-negative-quarters-with-a-v-rebound bullshit?

1. Rolling lockdowns. The world might be shocked to find out China really was lying all along and relaxing lockdowns just means cases start rising out of control 2-3 weeks later.

2. Mutations. We're fortunate it's been like swine flu and isn't changing that fast, but there are a few billion walking incubators in the southern hemisphere that could totally blindside us with SARS 3: AIDS Boogaloo.

3. Vaccines fail. There are plenty of new technologies and heroic efforts, but we never did get one working for SARS 1. Or for all the rapidly mutating strains of the flu (see 2).

None of those 3 possibilities seem to be priced in. They might be countered with any good antiviral treatment, but it'd need to be 90-100% effective shit. So far it seems like there are no silver bullets there.

>>18369642
>grandma dies
>mass extinction event

>>18369611
Going 3x leverage bull on oil isn't forward thinking, it's insanity. Sure oil will come back in a year or two, but sitting on bull leverages for that long is kissing money bye bye

>>18369676
yes, it's a small business mass extinction event.

>>18369671
>The world might be shocked to find out China really was lying all along and relaxing lockdowns just means cases start rising out of control 2-3 weeks later.
this alone will be enough to shock the market back to reality.

>>18369671
those aren't even the real reasons. the real reasons have nothing to do with the virus.

>>18369676
Old people run congress and pass down inheritances.

So anything that kills them en masse provokes a giant overreaction and inflation.

>>18368004
>tfw I went all in on RTX

>>18369559
based
good luck

>>18369681
ok im just telling you.. the ice cream shop next door opened again this week. despite "full lockdown"
why? because weather is good and people want to eat ice cream.. does not look like extinction to me. Maybe things will change, but that does not mean that stocks wont continue to go up

>>18369671
>Rolling lockdowns.
How would that cause a recession? Banks arent charging loans still, landlords are not getting rent. The entire part of a recession where leverage is killed off by overhead pressure isnt there.
>>18369671
>Mutations
Who cares.

>>18369710
>the ice cream shop next door opened again this week
recession canceled

>>18369677
I am not using options, I am just long on oil. You are a fucking retard if you don't think oil is coming back in a year

>>18369711
>How would that cause a recession?
because everyone, including banks, is leveraged up to their eyeballs in debt and do not have enough cash to keep the lights on for 2 months without revenue. this economy is fucked and is crashing with no survivors.

>oil still mooning
/biz/ros..............

i've lost 35% of my net worth now

>>18369691
It's possible that universal mask wearing and not being disgusting mainland Chinese are beneficial factors though. So civilized areas could keep post-lockdown R0 below 1.

But that rules out almost every major US city.

>>18369692
What are your real reasons? Note they have to be reasons that didn't apply from 2017-2019 and that don't jive with the bull case of "laid off Olive Garden worker will pay a month's rent with Trumpbux, then go back to work in May".

>>18369735
how much in money?

>>18369736
westerns in general will not abide by the social distancing rules and they will go back to sexing random people and going to overcrowded places. this virus will stick with us for lifetime at this rate.

>>18369736
>What are your real reasons?
overleveraged institutions

>>18369584
OIl fucking mooned on a fake tweet from trump, later dumped, and even after it was found out to be a fake tweet, PEOPLE STILL PUMPED AGAIN ON THE SAME DAY. Any fucking news will pump in this clown market.

OILERS

WE MOOOONIN

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>>18369744
about 70k

>>18369710
>the ice cream shop next door opened
Thanks a lot asshole. You tanked the Dow futures by finding someone going back to work.

what are you guys losing more money on, the crash or this crab market?

Its the crab for me.

>>18369711
Mutations can set you back to square 1. No herd immunity to work towards, previous vaccines have to be thrown out or tweaked and retested, hell, even existing treatments might not work or work as well.

As for deleveraging, >>18369725 is on the right track. Fed printing as a backstop works as long as everyone plays along on the currency side, but it's not clear when that might change.

>>18369754
so sorry to hear that anon.

>>18369751
this is unreal!!

>$30 soon
We're gonna make it bros

>>18369751
already at 9% wtf

gonna drop hard after the meeting isnt it

>>18369760
Anyone buying leveraged ETFs are going to be eaten alive by the crab

>>18369763
i am a retard

>>18369750
Maybe it's the trump tweet blowing it up today? If it turns out Russia and saudis do indeed make a deal, it means trump probably didn't dream up his conversation with MBL after all, and has he prophesied, a deal was made "soon"

>>18369766
Unless they actually cut a deal, then we're fucked and it will moon harder.

>>18369767
what is the issue with ETFs?

>>18369766
>>18369775
you cant be seriously short on oil frens. oh nononono.

>>18369778
daily rebalancing, time decay, google it

>>18369745
Again, things that weren't in play 2017-2019. If I borrow 100 billion dollars, but have to pay 0% interest and get bailed out by the Fed if my assets drop below 100 billion in value, I'm in no danger. None. Zero.

>>18369793
imagine going long on oil NOW

>>18369751
God I'm so tired of winning

if oil doesn't dump i'm gonna fucking end it

>>18369793
I have a bit on SCO when that fake tweet happened, if deal falls through, buy more SCO, if deal actually happens, sell all my SCO and buy UCO. That is my plan today, fuck the crab market.

is there any financial product to profit from the crab?

>>18369778
there can be a premarket pump and you wake up -20% with your asshole raped. ask me how i know.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-what-goldman-sachs-is-telling-wealthy-clients-to-do-in-this-market-2020-04-08?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

FUCK

>>18369809
Okay. There's 80 trillion in outstanding debt currently in the United States. The fed has added how many trillions to its balance sheet since this all began? What about everyone else? One man's debt payments is another man's income. As soon as you get one wave of defaults it ripples throughout the whole economy.

>Again, things that weren't in play 2017-2019
this is a fallacy of division. chlorine gas is lethal, but chlorine combined with sodium is tasty. similarly, overleveraged debt is fine... until it's not. when is it not? when the rainy day comes and you have no rainy day fund. guess what? the rainy day came, and the fed can't lower interest rates any further to offset the incoming deflationary tsunami.

>>18369834
>>18369799
so I should avoid ETF's at all costs and just stick with classic good old stocks?

>>18369834
try -70% on a monday morning h-haha...

>>18369833
Sell options

>>18369843
>at late 18, early 19 levels
>When valuations are so low
WAT

>>18369843
>Goldman Sachs: invest in my Luckin Coffee shares
ok boss

>>18369725
>is leveraged up to their eyeballs in debt
Except no one is allowed to call on that debt. There are no bankruptcy courts or foreclosure courts, they are all shut down. So there is no margin call so to speak.

>>18369851
If you wanna be long term yes, also find stocks with dividends.

Give me one reason why I shouldn't go all in on MRO.

>>18369851
its just leveraged etfs, or anything else leveraged like certificates
"normal" etfs dont have this problem (which is only a problem when holding multiple days anyway)

>>18369833
financial product
>Definition
>A financial product is a product (typically in the form of a contract) provided to consumers and businesses or other organizations (municipalities or sovereigns) by financial institutions such as banks, insurance companies, brokerage firms, consumer finance companies, and investment companies all of which comprise the financial services industry.

c- contracts? why would contracts be influenced by the stock market?
are you talking about options? you could sell a call and a put and hope it crabs between your threshold, becoming theta gang...
what were you asking for again?

>>18369872
go

>>18369847
>and the fed can't lower interest rates any further
Imagine betting against Jerome Powell

>>18369843
to the public: recession incoming, s%p 2200 will be the bottom
to the ((wealthy)): start buying now

>>18369865
it's the banks themselves that are going to be the ones failing. there is no such thing as the entire economy being unable to call on debt. yes, there are moratoriums on rent and such, but that just passes the buck onto the bank, which is also overleveraged and prone to failure.

>XOM now over $45 in pre-market
>MRO surging

>>18369882
im betting in favor of simple math. if we go to negative interest rates our country is fucked since we are such a debtor nation, we aren't going to be able to sell our treasury bonds to anyone except the fed anymore

Pick a stock and I'll swing post my swing trade on it.

>OIL
would you look at that

>>18369906
RTX

>>18369906
wheres youre trip swinganon? shitposting incognito?

there is not a single good reason for there to be an oil deal right?

>>18369887
>bank, which is also overleveraged and prone to failure.
But the banks just got tons of liquidity from the fed to ensure they have enough cash for all that.

>>18369917
there are multiple. for and against a possible deal.

but in the end it will be pure politics and gambling.

>>18369911
>>18369890
Opec cut leaks? Oil is saved?? SPY +4% today?

>>18369851
idk man, before you buy a leveraged etf you get a little disclaimer about special risks associated with this type of asset. losing all your shit while you sleep can happen if the market decides to move in the opposite direction of your etf, which is exactly what happened to my asshole recently. on the flip side you might make a bunch of money if you make the right prediction. its 100% up to you.

>>18369883
the second wave isn't priced in, the wealthy are not buying in at this level
this level is a short squeeze, followed by a capitulation by shorts; then a massive drop before you can say "what?"
think we're getting close to that capitulation, 277 is my "look and see what happens" target, probably some big move

bonus: imagine being a bald, 30-40 year old hedge fund manager and stocks are your life, lover and only thing in life, and you troll an anime image board inversing virgins all day, fucking pathetic when you think about it

>>18369917
There's low demand now so there is no reason to not cut production.

>>18368680
It'll dump tomorrow but probably not enough

Remember that whatever sentiment is strongest on biz is the wrong position to take

>>18369925
i don't see russia agreeing after fake US market pump and oil price already pumped on just rumors

OH COME ON NOW WTF IS HAPPENING TO OIL

>>18369902
We will all work for the Fed. Be paid by the Fed. Buy from the Fed. Live by the Fed. Die by the Fed.
The Fed is Us. And we are the Fed.

>>18369913
This will do. Depending how fast shit goes but I'm shorting around 60 right at the start. Pics to follow when it begins.

>>18369916
I don't want autismos sperging about the trip while totally ignore the point I'm trying to make.

>>18369947

>>18369943
putin could ask for lifting north stream 2 sanctions. win-win on the short hand.

>>18369920
they got repurchase loans, which is a loan, meaning they still have to pay it back. it's enough to keep them afloat in the short term, but nothing short of another bailout is going to save them. of course, even IF it were politically feasible to bailout the banks AGAIN, that's just the tip of the iceberg. there are so many sectors that need bailing out that you would kill the dollar if you tried to do so and end up bailing out nobodoy. we are about to see a wave of bankruptcies, particularly from small businesses, which will cause massive unemployment and social unrest. we are already seeing the bread lines in new york.

HOLY SHIT OIL


8% DESTROYED IN 5MIN

>>18369956
>>18369947
good, let me buy more.

>>18369950
Long live the United States of Social Republics kek.

https://www.strawpoll.me/19732322
TAKE THE POLL FAGGOTS
https://www.strawpoll.me/19732322
TAKE THE POLL FAGGOTS
https://www.strawpoll.me/19732322
TAKE THE POLL FAGGOTS

WHY IS IT CRASHING WHEN I CANT SELL REEE

How many different companies do yall own to consider yourself diversified?

>>18369966
OIL IS RED LMAOO


>>18369793
you fucking idiot told you

>>18369956
Holy fuck.

>>18369966
>>18369956
this is why I sold on the trump tweet and refuse to touch oil since

>>18369107
Did we not already know?
The markets will be crabby till may
The only things that will hold the market up from plummeting are businesses that are more or less immune to this

>>18369994
>The only things that will hold the market up from plummeting are businesses that are more or less immune to this

>>18369976
Why do you think?

>>18369970
>3 votes for SNIB
>0 votes for SNAB
Interesting

>>18369882
Probably my favorite version of this comic so far

I don't wanna be the guy who said "told you", but i'm am gonna be that guy.

>>18369981
>How many different companies do yall own to consider yourself diversified?

lmao thinking you can ever be diversified if your 100% in equities
God I love retards, keep losing money /smg/

it fell by EXACTLY the same amount in that """totally organic""" event as it rose in yesterday's """totally organic""" event
they're not even trying to hide the manipulation

>>18370042
you can be. they only all do poorly at once in the event of a market crash, but you can hedge those with inverse or volatility equities.

>>18369931
i never play with leveraged shit, too complicated for me, i will stick with classic.

>>18370042
Let me guess you think your shiny metal is a good investment decision lmao?

>>18368618
told you

>>18368106
I'll buy from you when you start panicking like a bitch

>people still whining about the market instead of abusing the volatility
Just trade the swings anon.

looks like oil is back on the menu boys

If the third worlders don’t play ball well just tariff them into the ground. Probably bomb a few things too. Eat shit third worlders.

>US jobless claims expected in the millions for third consecutive week

>KREMLIN TELLS REUTERS PUTIN HAS NO PLANS TO TALK WITH U.S. PRESIDENT TRUMP, SAUDI ARABIA ABOUT OIL ON THURSDAY
based putin

You faggots surely took profit on that mini oil pump earlier instead of being greedy didn't you?

>>18370095
this is what retards unironically believe. i guess this explains why they're always in favor of the absurd military spending--they see it like lifting weights and allowing you to do whatever you want because they don't understand the complexities of geopolitics.

>>18370056
wrong, enjoy the ride down

>>18370063
Indeed and I am comfy

I already have about 5% of my portfolio in RTX. I am considering buying more. You guys think it will dip?

I'm unironically going to buy at least some HSU tomorrow, I would kill myself if it gapped up 8% monday and I had no leveraged ETFs

of course it might gap down monday but I trust daddy powell and his magical money machind

>>18369555
Lol you're right no one will spend money ever again

>>18370105
sauce on Russian info?

>>18370117
>wrong, enjoy the ride down
i don't think you understand, i am fully bearish and expect an economic catastrophe. however, what you said is false and i'm just pointing that out. as I said, you can hedge the "ride down" with inverse and volatiltiy equities. it's not complicated.

>>18370126
It might dip if the whole market dips, I don't see a good reason for it to dip but clown market doesn't need a good reason

I stick to my original thesis that any RTX buy under 10 P/E is a good buy

When is Tesla going to crash to zero like biz said should I sell my one share like a big boy

>>18370128
nice strawman + boomer comic you insufferable retard

>>18370142
When SpaceX gets listed. Right now, you "invest" in SpaceX by holding TSLA stock.

>>18370110
Our guns and bombs don’t care about your gay complexity lmao
You will obey us or we’ll start wrecking shit and killing your people. Deal with it.

>>18370117

>pffffff sptttttttttttt bpbbbbbsbbbbbtttt

Gold is literally the dumbest of investment decisons...

You are betting on this retarded world collapse situation where people want to give you money for shiny metal (in usd or w/e currency comes after collapse).. which implies that you think the economy will return after this retarded hypothetical event... Just buy stocks you retard.

>>18370149
>when spacex gets listed
unironically not in our lifetimes, best we can hope for is a Starlink IPO

>>18370126
Buy more, faggot. Thank me later.

>>18370155
I'm more of a patriot than you will ever be, because I don't cheerlead our moronic goverment spending and hand them more power every single day. The founding fathers would be rolling in their graves if they knew the sickening shit you were defending.

>>18370155
Based and Pax Americana pilled

You DO own stocks in the companies that make those bombs, right anon?

>>18370159
>Gold is literally the dumbest of investment decisons...
>Gold went 3x in the GFC, Silver went 5x
>Tripling or quintupling your money on a 0 risk asset is the dumbest investment decision

>>18370177
ok boomer

>>18370126
Watch me later.

putin wanted to gain a better position for negotiations this afternoon.
we climbin back bros.

>>18370177
are you the same europoor that got btfo yesterday about oil? You thought that the USA didn't have the largest navy on the planet? lmao

Putin str8 up says he doesnt plan on talking to trump or Saudis bout oil today

>>18370202
I can't wait. Hang in there, fellow oilbro. We will be vindicated tonight.

Hmmm, tempted to buy more shares in JBLU

>>18370132
https://www.herald.fi/putin-has-no-plans-to-talk-oil-with-trump-saudis-on-thursday-kremlin/

>>18370105
Short 3D women.

>>18370228
>>18370202
Should I buy more WTI?

>>18370217
nice reading comprehension dipshit. i said the US didn't have a stronger navy than the entire rest of the world combined, which is what one of your fellow brainlet compatriots suggested.

the best part is you are also utterly ignorant of military history and military tactics. invasions are about 3x harder than defending an invasion, but of course everyone who thinks like you is completely unaware of that. america is nothing but a paper tiger, a pathetic, doomed debtor nation LARPing as world police while being obese. i don't consider you american.

If you have to ask if you should buy/sell something. You deserve to lose your money.

14:55: SAUDI ARABIA READY TO REDUCE OUTPUT BY UP TO 4 MLN BPD FROM APRIL LEVEL -

thats nothing.......

>>18370147
You're the one who thinks the world is ending chicken little faggot

>>18370159
Cope
I'll enjoy my 30% gains thank you.

>>18370228
oilers will all make it \o/

>>18370232
priced in unironically.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-oil-opec-kremlin/putin-has-no-plans-to-talk-oil-with-trump-saudis-on-thursday-kremlin-idUSKCN21R1QL
was 20 mins ago.

>>18370266
>recessions don't happen anymore
strawman harder you half-witted faggot

>>18370224
The entire market is calling is bluff, senpai.
>>18370244
If you want. It will continue to swing until meeting. I'm getting out right before for maximum speculation gains.

>>18370257
it is you lmao just leave and never come back. this thread loses IQ every time you reply.

>>18370263
bear time

>>18370278
i know, he just asked for source

>>18370290
oh no youve totally convinced me that im not superior to you in every way with your complete lack of arguments!

Gush is moving -9% / +9% at a time rn. Im spooked

>>18370281
strawman? recession? this is a unique virus driven event that will V recover as fast as it formed. And I'm bearish right now holding all sorts of bear shit. Fuck you moron.

>>18370257
>you are also utterly ignorant of military history and military tactics
I'll bet you ten thousand dollars this guy has a fedora and a goatee.

Should I buy CARR? I could. It's cheap.

>>18370234
no, i will buy at the bottom

>>18370359
>strawman? recession?
words? meaning? brain? grug not understand!

>>18370389
Oh I'm dealing with a foreign faggot explains everything.

>>18368535
>second lockdown
this. I can't see a vaccine being developed within 12-18 months, so unless you live a country that has achieved herd immunity we're probably looking at a second wave of infections towards the end of this year

>>18370386

>>fighting on a mongolian gif board

>holding a otm put expiring today
>hoping the economy crash and wrecks everyone so that I can make like $400 on it
I'm discovering a really /devilish/ side of myself

>>18370402
>i have seen horrible things

>>18370396
im dealing with run-of-the-mill retard thinks he knows anything

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>>18370395

>FUCK YOU AND YOUR STOCK MARKET, yoirs sincerely russian bear putin
Is putin an honorary bobo?

>>18369883
If the big short taught me anything, it's to always do the opposite of what (((goldman sachs))) says