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I had over 400k worth of crypto 'confiscated' from Zenon Network. Do I have a legal case as they are semi anon.

So basically I bought on an exchange Zenon and kept it there cause it was Cryptobridge and therefore safe as its a dex. Zenon was hacked and 2m tokens controlled by a hacker. Zenon devs forked the chain to get back the 2m which was the right thing to do BUT they also blocked my tokens even though they were in my wallet. It made no sense and the Zenon community manager just banned me everytime I tried to explain what happened. This was a financial tragedy for me as it was 4/5 of my crypto wealth saved over early 10 years in crypto.


Can I sue. The team is anon but it's easy to prove they are Square Crypto devs. These are the liberal fuckers with Jack Dorsey. Pisses me off so.muvh that a billionaire and some over paid silicon valley tech nerds stole.my wealth and I'm poor without this crypto. Do I have a case. Should i contact a lawyer? Crypto is property theft as I understand it? Thats what Craig Wright says anyway. Lol

>> No.18308417

lmao you dumb

>> No.18308416

>>18308400
>400k stolen
>should i sue?

find a smart as fuck young jewish lawyer that actually understands crytpo. oooooweeeee i would pay to see that trial

>> No.18308418

>>18308400
Scam coin advertising has gone next level. 1/10 never had me.

>> No.18308448

>>18308400
>The team is anon but it's easy to prove they are Square Crypto devs.
obvious shill is obvious

>> No.18308449

>>18308400
>The team is anon but it's easy to prove they are Square Crypto devs.
Nice shill but I am staying with my SUTER bags

>> No.18308470

>>18308418
I wish it wasnt true fren. It's a fucking nightmare. I posted about it on their bitcointalk ann. They never engaged with me. As you can I see I proved I bought legitimately. This shit has devastated me. My only option is legal it seems.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4281633.100

>> No.18308514

>>18308448
Well it's an important fact. I cant sue an anon can I? I need to legally prove first they are Square Crypto devs or I can't do a thing.

>> No.18308519

>>18308400
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
KYS MATE
YOU BOUGHT ZENON YOU DESERVE TO LOSE EVERYTHING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAAH

>> No.18308529

>>18308519
This is real life dude. I have a wife and child. Not everything is a larp.

>> No.18308535

>>18308400
>400k
Ask a lawyer. They'll figure something out, if you aren't bullshitting about that amount.

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I've tried many times to talk to devs but they ignore me.

>> No.18308551

>>18308529
your wife is a man

>> No.18308582

>>18308535
I guess I'll have to. It's the vagueness about who they are that worries me.

https://thecryptolawyers.com/

I've googled crypto lawyers but I wonder if they work on the other side as in they represent big projects so they can sidestep laws. Hmmm

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>>18308542
>This has financially destroyed me
>I have a wife and kids
>I bought 400k of Zenon

>> No.18308636

>>18308542
dude I feel bad for you but...
if you were stupid enough to invest 400k in a meme like that, maybe you deserve to lose everything ? I mean, fucking half a milion dollars or so... what the fuck is wrong with you ?

>> No.18308656

>>18308400
>400k
>4/5 of my crypto wealth
So you have 100k to get a lawyer. Then why do you say you need to "acquire legal funds" here >>18308542
And you'd accept just an apology for $400,000 lost? This is such bullshit.

>> No.18308681

>>18308636
Not sure my choice of investment is the issue here. The point is they were taken away from my private wallet. And hey IF I can legally prove SQ is Zenon then I wouldn't be such an idiot would I?

>> No.18308701

>>18308656
I'm not gonna cash out at this stage in the market 100k to risk on legal fees. My hope is one I make more later as the market increases and also a lawyer may be more open to working pro bono ( I think that's the right term) for free if they get a cut. What kills me is if this makes fucking millions and they took it away. I sometimes wonder if I will become a Craig Wright one day in court. Lol

>> No.18308761

>>18308656
The apology was just a personal need they recognize what they have done emotionally as well as financially. I've lost plenty of money in crypto but until you experience something like this is hard to relate. Every movie where somone is convicted of a crime they didnt commit suddenly i understood them. I was banned from the chat. I was fully in the community but now I'm labeled a hacker. People i one day were crypto buddies were blocking.me and calling.me a fucking scammer asshole. Part of this is I need them to recognise what they did.

>> No.18308786

>>18308400
They blocked your ZNN in a Cryptobridge wallet? They must have said something about that. Do you have screenshots of any conversations with anyone connected to Zenon? Did they assume your coins were somehow associated with the hacker? Just curious.

>> No.18308804

>>18308400
Isn't the whole point of crypto that it's unhackable?

Of course you can sue. Why wouldn't you be able to sue? In the US you can sue anything.

>> No.18308826

>>18308681
you sound like you really need to reconsider how you live your life/prioritize your shit
you have serious mental issues if you invested in this obvious scam anon
you should take legal action probably, but also invest in a good therapist

>> No.18308851

>>18308400
why do you think that /biz/ could help you with that larp?

>> No.18308864

>>18308529
Jesus I'm sorry man. Was that like all of your net worth or only lile 50-75%?

>> No.18308926

>>18308851
Cause it's a business and financial board?

>> No.18308939

>>18308786
They saw my moves out of Cryptobridge and as they forked I guess could hold back addresses. By this time they were in my wallet. The hard fork made this possible.

>> No.18308951

>>18308864
Most of my crypto wealth. I own my home and have small savings. I'm in late 30s. This wasn't a small thing to me.

>> No.18308958

>>18308939
Did you buy any otc?

>> No.18309002

>>18308470
I'm sorry but you are a certified retard if you have been in crypto for 10 years and sunk $400k into an obvious scam. You're either larping to bring publicity to your "Jack Dorsey" connected scamcoin, or you lack the capability for critical thinking. Sorry "fren", but if it's the latter you deserve the get wiped clean from the market. We cannot evolve with dumbshits like you propping up obvious anon-dev vaporware scams.

>> No.18309006

>>18308529

I'm more pissed that you actually breed your shit genes.

You are stupid fucking nigger if you thought Zenon was anything to with Square.

>> No.18309019

>>18308786
My thinking is there were a few accounts I held my zenon on on CB. As you might know CB suddenly closed shop recently so I had a guy in Zenon community help me move my tokens out. It's all there still on CB explorer. That's what's so fucking maddening. They never engaged. I made sock puppet accounts after bening banned and as soon as I made a message I was deleted. My personal belief if they thought such a large amount was 'suspicious' so assumed the accounts were part of hacking. If these guys are part of Twitter then it's normal culture to just block any thing they deem unacceptable. I think they saw such a large amount didn't want anyone to have that much. But truth is they never engaged with me. The devs are anon an barely talk. I only talked to mod who already decided in his head I was the hacker and so treated me like an asshole everytime I tried to present facts. Yiu can do much arguing with a mod on telegram at the end of the day. Making sockpupets gets old pretty quickly and frustrating you arent being heard.

>> No.18309033

>>18308958
No. Only CB. You can see my purchases on the explorer and links I gave.

>> No.18309067

>>18309006
Look. If it is a scam I can walk away. The fact is it's running and has a community. They haven't exit scammed. The fact is a project stole my crypto. I like to think unknowingly but fact remains legally it was a theft. You are confusing losing money in an exit scam or something. This is different.

>> No.18309111

>>18309067
Just contact the exchange ? Surely they were tied to existing legal persons ?
What the fuck, mate ? How did you end up sinking 400k into this ? You can't be for real...

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>>18309067
>it isnt a scam
>they just stole my money

>> No.18309124

>>18309067
Dude I would honestly just go ask a reddit board, as faggy as they are, they will probably just deal with what you are saying versus saying you deserve to be poor because a still active crypto team fucked you over personally when that doesn't matter at all.

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>>18308400
you think the people pictured exist in real life and if they do you think they know about Zenon?

>> No.18309151

>>18308400
>The team is anon but it's easy to prove they are Square Crypto devs. These are the liberal fuckers with Jack Dorsey.
Hahahaha there it is! Inventive shill I'll give you that.

>> No.18309154

>>18308400
This smells like a larp, but if you're for real then go talk to a lawyer and ask them.

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>>18308400
Hello again faggot
Hoped you learned your lesson
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAa

>> No.18309187

When this token has crashed 99% in value, and bitcoin is over $100k (as shitcoins usually crash that hard when bitcoin goes on a bull run), they'll repay you in worthless ZNN tokens, just the same amount of ZNN tokens you lost.

And they'll probably legally get away with doing that too.

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>>18308400
>devs forked the chain to get back the 2m which was the right thing to do
just forking and rolling back stuff kinda breaks the whole point of blockchains. the fact that the project is small enough for that to even be possible (that everybody just agrees that "yup must be done") makes it seem like it's doomed to failure

sorry about your loss, maybe a letter from a lawyer would make them take you seriously but i dont know

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>>18309151
This and only this! Fucking currynigger >>18308400 lmao

>> No.18309401

>>18309118
kek i keep switching between laughing and being seriously worried about op

>> No.18309427

>>18309154
That's basically what I was asking. And I probably will as long as I have a good case. The anominity thing is the weird bit. If they weren't trust me i would already have them in court. Ok I'll leave it there biz. Already getting attacked. Not in mood for it. This is the thing normally when someone steals you normally dont get attacked and called a scammer. Anonymity it seems can protect assholes as well as the genuine. Never thought I would lose money using a dex and private wallet though..that's the fucking thing that gets stuck in my claw.

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I'll just leave with this to show how this always gets when I try to put my case forward. I get called a scammer and a scumbag. Even though I've proved a million times I'm nothing to do with the scammer it doesn't matter to people. They just run hard against facts. Truth is when I bought I probably did buy a percentage of the hackers tokens but I mainly bought off others so actually many in the community sold to me. It could of been them. This proves again people are essentially selfish and will fight for their project whatever the situation. Humanity is shit for sure. I assume no one can get way from judgment. I cringe now when anyone in Zenon talks about Sigli being a good guy. I showed him I bought in the explorer but he banned me. This I think will end in a courtroom, how can I not if it ends up being worth more in the future? Property law I think is on my side so...let's see.

Proof I bought I brought and didnt hack.

https://cryptofresh.com/u/hyunsook8

>> No.18309594
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>>18309537
>New ID
Okay Ranjeesh.

>> No.18309602

>>18309594
Phone line to laptop wireless.

>> No.18309624

>>18308449
>Nice shill but I am staying with my SUTER bags
Nice to see another enlightened anon. Good day sir

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>>18309602
You are either
1) 100% retarded and should kys

or

2) 100% a currynigger.

>> No.18309761

OP, lawyer up, that's the only thing that's going to help. It's really hard to have a social media presence and be anonymous. If the lawyer is able to subpoena IPs and emails from BTCt, Twitter and so on, he should be able to get to them.

I read that ANN on BTCT and that chain rollback was enough for me to never buy ZNN.

>> No.18309787

>>18309602
Pls do the needful, sir.

>> No.18309808

Lose 400k USD. Still has 100k. Can't go see a proper lawyer. Ask for advice on reddit.

Seems legit.

You never had this money lol.

>> No.18309844

This guy is a pathological liar and never invested anyway. He exploited a PIVX bug to hack the chain : the team provided and update and froze the hacker funds.

Go to hell loser, you're fucked.

Now Zenon released their WP and it's insanely good. Testet and mainnet soon. And you'll stay poor Luna.

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>>18309844
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself, currynigger :)

>> No.18309896

>>18309844
Cope. The team fucked this guy over, no one in their right minds trusts them.

>> No.18309902

>>18309844
Answer this one simple question. IF I was Luna and I stole 2m tokens and freely was dumping them on anon exchanges why would I spend 40btc buying more? Common sense people. The hacker had to dump on somone didnt he? Soooo someone was gonna be the buyer...right? Well instead of being protected by the team I was attacked and accused even though the proof of my purchases were on the blockchain. I even gave proof I did kyc on CB. What hacker does kyc? Human nature just digs in harder when confronted with facts.

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>>18309902
>>18309896

Cool story, cousins from this poster >>18309844

Curryniggers need to find traintracks to throw themselves on them. :)

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>>18309624
>>18308449

450k SUTER DRAGON reporting in.
How heavy is your bag, frens?

>> No.18309950

- hack the chain
- realize you got caught
- realize some money isn't frozen
- send to CB to wash it in hope to withdraw others ZNN
- get fucked by CB enforcing mandatory KYC overnight
- ask someone to help you withdraw
- get your remaining hacked funds frozen
- rage on biz

What a winner life.

>> No.18309957

And for the record. I still support the project. I don't believe the mistake was done maliciously. But the arrogance of the devs to not give a shit about a community member who did everything right as in bought on the dex they listed and put in my wallet should be flagged. Sorry but I know I have the law on my side. My only decision is if its worth doing as I dont like the idea of a long court battle with a billionaire with infinite resources. I'm a aging fucking nobody.

Btw all of Luna convo I've looked at. Clearly they aren't Native English. I think they also spike in Russian. Do I sound in anyway a non native speaker?

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>invests in utter shitcoin fueled by a jeet rumor campaign
>devs steal all of his money before it dumps to -99% prematurely

please be larp

>> No.18309970

>>18309950
Dude. Luna after dumping would of taken his btc off CB and not left anything there.

>> No.18309987

This idiot is defo Luna having no life

>> No.18310005

>>18309950
I did kyc. I showed my processing. I actually got nervous cause they were taking so long. So I got help to move off. Ironically I was accepted the day after. Would of never had an issue...I assume.

>> No.18310025

>>18309987
One day. You will be accused of something you didn't do. Probably we all do at some point in our lives.Just remember your words here.

>> No.18310026

>>18309957
>And for the record. I still support the project. I
Anon, I...

You have to realize this is a severe case of Stockholm syndrome if you still support a team after it has fucked you over.

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>>18309957
Okay currynigger sirs. :)

>> No.18310069

>>18310026
Cause I still hang onto the idea they think they were blocking hacked funds. Look at how the community is coming here and how they react. People who I never met before are 100% convinced I'm some Russian hacker. The joke is my friends know I'm a computer illiterate. I literaly struggle with Windows. If this wasn't so fucking financially devastating to my family I would laugh my ass off at this. My wife literally shakes here head in disbelief that someone would think I'm a skilled hacker.

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>>18308400
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>>18310026

Hello sirs. Greet message for your financal gainz sirs. >>18309976

>> No.18310134

>>18310078
Oh the irony of being accused of attacking a project and shilling it in the same thread.

>> No.18310158

Honestly....the only real way to solve this problem OP is to buy like 50k worth of silver bullion.

>> No.18310169

Zenon Network released their WP. Just let this scammer die from coronavirus and come read about the ongoing researches https://zenon.network/download/whitepaper.pdf

>> No.18310211

>>18310158
This has soured me on crypto honestly. I wince when I hear not your keys not your money etc now. I might go back to being a Ron Paul loving Goldbug like Inwas before crypto.Lol

>> No.18310228

>>18310134
Sirs no ironi! ZNN is like finding goldmine sirs! Its butiful like bobs sirs.

>> No.18310260

>>18310069
Bro, if this is real and you and your family are agonizing over this shit, then /biz/ is the last place you should be. Talk to a lawyer as soon as you possibly can and stop putting more material online that could be used against you in court.

>> No.18310297

>>18310260
You're right. I will stop now. Actually I just wanted an opinion on how the team being anon would affect a potential litigation.. I didn't intend it to go off at tangents. Cheers.

>> No.18310357

>>18310228
U knowing dear! Xenon is very profesional team , buy now or stay poor forever bhenchode ,

>> No.18310440

>>18310069
>Look at how the community is coming here and how they react.
Normal /biz behavior. If you want to get sensible responses, head over to Reddit.

>> No.18310449

>>18310169
Bags are getting heavy, huh Raneesh?

>> No.18310457

>>18308400
Little thot is the closest to the tallest guy.

>> No.18310479

>>18310069

Who helped you move your coins off CB?

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>>18310357
Sirs, aprreciate you (Poo)

so meny childs can be saved with zenon network coin sirs. In my thred som guy bought 100k ZNN dear Madhavaditya. 5 village haev now eatings for 4 month.

May vishnu be with us sirs.

Govinda Ashtikar

>> No.18310611

>>18309067

Get the fuck out of here you stupid fucking nigger

>> No.18311696

>>18310552
You could afford cows?

>> No.18311874

sirs, ples dont said lies
this not true

>> No.18312061

>400k in Zenon
you deserve to be poor.

>> No.18312213

That risk management tho, 400k in a shitcoin... you think when it 10x you have liquidity to cash out 4 million?
This must be a larp...

>> No.18312294

>>18308400
OP , so after months you still didn't figure it out?

They are the "hacker", minting coins, selling them, and are blaming you. This way they are keeping the BTC and no one complains. Square Crypto lol They will do it to others if they didn't do it already

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>>18308400
Cocksuckers pajeets scammers just found this on bitcointalk :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4281633.msg53796085#msg53796085

"- zmnscpxj (squarecrypto confirmed account working on lightning network) confirms that Squarecrypto has nothing to do with Zenon Network. he even posts a weekly log that that can be verified
- Team lies about non-ICO, isn't transparent about how much money they raised in ICO
- calls premine -"personal investment"
- bans people that ask non welcomed questions
- has an explorer with no rich list
- has a roadmap full of wallet updates
- coin is listed on some exchanges known for listing shady coins

https://twitter.com/sqcrypto/status/1204815615678177280
https://twitter.com/CryptoQuestor/status/1225184642141167616
https://zmnscpxj.github.io/activity/2020-01-30.html
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4281633.100
https://zenonnetworkscam.com


Why wont they provide full details about the two hacks? 1. Minting 2.5 million ZNN out of thin air. 2. Staking exploit that made the hacker an undisclosed number of coins.
- Exploits used
- addresses involved and coins blocked
- how many coins did the hacker managed to sell on exchanges and OTC before they blocked his coins from the second hack. In the first hack the hacker sent the coins to the team's addresses. I wonder why he would do that ? Did he got payed to do that? He says he got 30k ZNN as shown in the evidence above. Seems that some people in the zenon tg want others to believe that they made an update for the first hack and this is how they blocked the coins. Clearly a lie and the team bans you if you ask the right questions as shown above in this thread."

>> No.18312324

OP is larping the victim of a previous event to promote his PND. Zenon has nothing to do with Jack Dorsey.

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>> No.18312373

>>18308951
>This wasn't a small thing to me.
putting money you can't afford to lose on a shitcoin
anon..i

>> No.18312462

Imagine thinking not only that Jack Dorsey is anonymously behind Zenon AND thinking that you're going to prove this and take him on in court.

>> No.18312474

>>18308529
I hope your wife leaves you and your kids start calling Chad dad. Dumb fucking nigger should have never bred.