/biz/ - Business & Finance

it's over for us bearbros

>>18048912
finish your last thread before you start a new one jimmy, or dad will get the belt out again
>>18047890
>>18047890
>>18047890

>>18048912
Dumb anime poster

>>18048957
NO
DO NOT POST IN RACIST THEAD

>>18048912
dumb dumb idiot peepee head

1400 POINT BULL TRAP

>>18049000
fuck off kike lol

>>18049013
This shit might be acceptable on /pol/ but we don't hold to that shit here on /smg/
lurk moar.

I cant believe I'm losing money on my birthday.

I've placed longs on top of my shorts. If it pumps on relief bill and then dumps - I'm golden. If not, I've boxed myself into a loss xD

>>18048912
This is gonna be the biggest bull trap in history. Wait until Thursday's unemployment numbers come out.

30% unemployment, bitches. Worse than the Great Depression.

Who here ACCUMULATING SPXS, SQQQ AND TVIX

Report in

"PrIcEd iN" fags, gas yourselves.

Is the senate voting on the Corona relief bill today?

>>18049073
Thats what I'm counting on.

>>18049061
Happy birthday anon. Remember: it’s just money, you can always print more! Enjoy your day

how much longer until every worthless shit in congress gets the disease

>>18049040
>This shit might be acceptable on /pol/ but we don't hold to that shit here on /smg/
sounds like someone's a slimy little niggerjew, boys.

MUST NOT SELL... AAAAAAAAAA

NO NO NO

HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING?

WE GOT TOO COCKY BEARBROS

MIST

>>18049073
How is that not priced in yet? Are boomers and redditors really that autistic/naive that they think it just won't happen?

>>18049146
BUY BUY BUY

Last time there was a green candle this big EOD the EOW candle was a small red one

>>18048912
i told you to buy ONTX and you didnt listen and now you kys

>>18049073
>priced in

Oh wait, some faggot white neet figures it all out while masturbating to bbc orgy porn.

>>18049166
aint gonna happen retard

>>18049073
Priced in you fool. You realize we were already -35% right?.... prepare to get liquidated.

>>18049166
There are literally no good numbers about the economy of any country in the world right now with the single exceptions of their stock markets.
This is a pump with zero basis in reality.

>>18049166
It probably is. The only hope is that the numbers are much worse than forecasted

>>18047890
>>18047890
>>18047890

we're in here

>>18049166
>He fell for the fucking priced in meme.
Fucking lurk moar.
Seriously, you /pol/ idiots show how fucking new you are with every post.
Fuck off.

DON'T STOP BUYING!!!!!! THIS IS A TRICK TO MAKE US POOR IN THE LONG RUN!!!!

>>18049113
>rand paul infected
>no symptoms
>goes and works out in congressional gym like a boss

95% mild bruh.

V-SHAPE CONFIRMED

up 15% by end of today

down 30% thursday

>>18049198
>the NEET provides his valuable insight into economic outlook

>>18049040
GET HIM!!! BURN THE KIKE!!!

>>18049079
how hard are you right now fellow bear

>>18049201
>doesn’t realize world economies are managed
>still believes in free market capitalism

where's the circuit breaker??

Gg.

>>18049212
>t. seething kike

>>18049273
Circuit breaker only applies to downward motion not upward motion.

>>18049294

>Bears getting completely totally and unequivocally fucked
LOL

Fuck jews, they are a cancer upon the world.

>>18049040
WRONG

Here at /smg/ we know what you kikes are up to

>>18049166
yes

Glad I bought some HAL at 4.95

fuck your ugly ass grandmas and get back to work. this is a bull's world.

do i sell my profits or wait how long does this pump go?

DEPRESSION CANCELLED

AQUARIUM CLEANER MIRACLE CURE DISCOVERED

>>18049333
I've been posting here for years you absolute retard. This is not considered acceptable.

>>18049373
this pump will end when the senate refuses to do their job again

>>18049373
Wait. This is only the beginning of the recovery.

>>18049373
It's not a pump, don't be stupid.

>>18049388
i'm going to collect yarmulkas like scalps when it all comes crashing down

AHHHH I GAMBLED EIGHT YEARS OF SLAVERY ON DUDE WEED AND SILVER AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18049402
senate reconvene today, will be watching

anyone out of their positions and just waiting to see what happens?

Glorious

>>18049449
Get in on that sweet sweet call action then?

>>18049040
Genuinely can't tell if this is bait, good job

>new york rapidly become wuhan 2.0
>stocks surging
if you permanently remove new york do we get dow 100k?

>bulls think this is "the great V shaped recovery"
>meanwhile in reality
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/24/viral-on-air-plea-captures-an-essential-truth-about-trump/

How likely is it that it crashes tomorrow? Aren't shorting stocks, but crypto, and we've seen that crypto is absolutely dependant on the market, not detached as they used to spout

>>18049388
THE MARKET DEMANDS THE BLOOD OF JEWS WE MUST SACRIFICE JEWS TO APPEASE THE ALMIGHTY DOW

This is going to be bad. Droves of fat, diabetic, Amerimuts with heart conditions and all are going to get back to work and be completely merked by the virus. This will kill millions and crash the market and this bulltrap will be peoples last dime.

This is going to suck in two weeks. Buy up aquarium cleaner stocks now, it will be worth its weight in gold.

>>18049443
i just slowed down my buying. still have some buy orders that won't expire until friday tho.
this shit is not over yet.

>>18049402
The fact that there is a pump despite their incompetence only means they are even less likely to pass it.

They will fuck it up, as usual. Over some stupid pork or pet project.

how in the fucking fuck am i making money? wheres my YOLO $6.5 F call bro anon who got 100 calls the other day? are we going to make it

>>18049388
Kys Shlomo

>>18049462
>>>/pol/
You have to go back....

>>18049435
Watching CSPAN right now.
Why the fuck do people from nobody states (North/South Dakota for example) keep talking so much?

>>18049443
I’m in some long positions because fuck trying to day trade them. Holding back a few thousand to see where this is headed but I’m gradually buying in. Going to do some long USO and BP calls I think

>>18049471
>R*ddit Post
dropped

>>18049488
help, ive never made profts before i dont know what to do. do i sell now or hold

>>18049461
longer the better, still cheap calls. Trump cited August/June/July as targeted "depression canceled" date

>>18049490
OBSESSED

>>18049498
the whole point of the senate is to give north dakota equal representation to california, because ostensibly America is a national of equal states

>>18049483
Ok, and the bad news is???

>>18049498
Because their life is boring just like yours is

>>18049475
80%. This pump is bullshit and I guarantee you a bill for relief is not passing today.

>>18049471
>WaPo
>WaPo Opinions
Y I K E S

>>18049498
they are redpilled

>>18049443
Im 50% down on my options. So im just holding at this point. Should've never done these puts. Stand to lose $1600 if they expire worthless in april.

>>18049511
>stupid calls in the green for no reason
sell them before you lose everything for equally stupid reasons

>>18049487
Yup, the one good thing we might get out of the coronavirus is it sweeping through congress.

>>18048912
Ichirin is my WIFE and she is crushing VIX down to nothing today

>200 million infected by July
>2 million dead

BRAVO MR PRESIDENT

>>18049518
I was asking them if they got in on that sweet sweet call action as well. That is "Yeah I bought some calls on the market too and I'm seeing some profits that are offsetting the disappointing put numbers"

>>18049522
aquarium cleaner is gonna be expensive as fuck.

Anti-antisemitism is unacceptable on /smg/. Do your duty and please report racism and especially anti-Semites from /pol/. Have a nice day.

>>18049471
>washington post
>Dan Patrick
literally kill yourself zoomer

>>18049534
Yeah, i mean, like every time the exchanges blow up this hard, it also blows down hard the next day no matter the reason, so i expect it to go down myself.

>usd in circulation vastly increasing
>usd price of stocks go up abit
>"why is it pumping omg"
why are bears so dumb

>>18049475
Crypto is literally a retarded ponzi scheme dependent on the market. How idiots don't realize this is beyond me.

So is Drumpf actually going to send people back to work?!

>>18049560
Kek,true

>>18049000
Kys nigger

can someone explain wtf happened to sp500 today?

MY PUTS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18049511
Don't listen to this faggot >>18049540 hold until tomorrow and then cash out.

>>18049483
what's up with
aquarium cleaner?

>>18049570
sounds like you just described uber not crypto

>>18049552
Don't forget boomers and Jew York kikes dying en masse leaving fallow fields in the real estate and financial markets for suburbanites and millenials to plow.

>>18049570
Agreed, though in '18 i was one of the hyped up idiots too so i'm not one to talk about falling for it.

>>18049563
I can never recall if jannies were even useful in cleaning up antisemitism and racism...

>>18049554
This is pretty terrifying desu

>poorfag with very little money to invest

Should’ve bought more shares when I had the chance

>>18049573
WAGIE
GET BACK IN YOUR CAGIE

>>18049589
Rally behind president pleading for people to go back to work soon. expectation of stimulus passing by Wedensday, and the fed buying any and all corporate debt.

>>18049554
>only 2 million dead
probably going to be 10 million

>>18049568
God damn it, they had no clue the shit we have been saying is right and they are stuck and about to get rekt treating a pandemic like a depression and it's hillarious.

>>18049617
It's still going down

>>18049520
Consdering the senate hasn't done a single thing in the last decade it might be time to abolish it.

>>18049597
It has a chemical in it that is also in malaria drugs used to fight Covid19. A dumb boomer couple drank aquarium cleaner to cure themselves.

>>18049273
Its designed to protect the market, not people from foming into buying stocks right now.

>>18049589
Congress is expected to pass $2 trillion stimulus bill by the end of the day

Bout to hit 20k on DJIA

>>18049626
>>18049644
so in a few months its gonna fall another 50%?

>>18049617
Everything will go to zero shortly, dont worry anon

Sold my bags and went back into SQQQ

>>18049554
back to work wagies

>>18049620
I'm an Australian NEET anon - kiss my feet

You guys knrow this lockdown will be more than 2 weeks, right? Trump is trying to pump the market so when it inevitably falls, it doesn’t go quite as far.

Numbers make red Thursday, weak pump Friday because of vote.

>india announcing a lockdown
This is the fed's clown market EXPECT MORE MOONING

>>18049511
up to you, i got a F call for 5.5 for 3/27 after the ventilator news.
F gonna hit $10
GM stay up too.
they're posturing for that tasty bailout money from orange man

>>18049644
nah, its going to be loaded with boeing bailouts and diversity boardroom mandates so it'll fail

>>18049644
>Expected
These corrupt morons aren't going to pass anything

>>18049650
shits falling after unemployment numbers are released and the death total starts taking front page again.

Is there any point to trading options if I only have 20k to my name?

>he didn't buy the dip

>>18049554
I instantly doubt ANY politician who says lovingly

GUSH or JNUG for the wednesday pump?

>>18049573
The US economy is fragile, it is only strong when constantly working at full capacity. Either he sacrifices the boomers, or he sacrifices the whole country. Wagies and especially old wagies have to die, I'm sorry anon but we will starve to death otherwise.

>>18049601
The thought of all the empty real estate from corona deaths has me jizzing in my pants.

>>18049644
It isn't going to pass. They would have to compromise and they're not going to do that

>>18049554
an economic collapse would be far more devastating.

>>18049554

>redditors and leftoids go for years spamming boomer hate articles, nihilistic trash media, lol death so funny, abortions COOL, etc.
>President offers the quickest way to let an inevitable virus run its course and achieve herd immunity without sacrificing the economy as we know it and allow Millenials and Gen Xers to get back to work and not destroy their future

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN BOOMERINOS!! NOT MY AGING BOIS! 0.5% of the country will DIE??? DIE??? LIKE REALLY DYING!! THIS IS TERRIFYING FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE

>>18049540
dont listen to this faggot he hasnt read the news

>>18049600
No because unlike Uber which provides a service to people they want and enjoy they can afford to be publicly traded until they pull an amazon and become profitable for their investors. No one is seriously going to use crypto for a while and even once people do they are just going to use the ones established by FB or Google or some main establishment one so yeah it's all retarded bullshit by cryptofags.

>>18049690
yes, options decrease the amount of capital you need to make large gains, that's sort of the point.
but watch out for inflated premiums

>>18049318
Congrats. Did you risk all your money for that tho?

Mfw I keep going on a downtrend on stocks and options.

>>18049554
>Our people want to return to work.
lmao, yeah I bet they can't wait to be paranoid 8h a day around hundreds of people at work every day

>>18049690
you can't do anything with the SPX (or the SPY with these premiums) but can still open spreads and other fancy shit on lower priced stocks

>>18049713
>boomers literally so incapable of empathy that they don't understand when non-boomers may not want them to die even if its a personal disadvantage to them
What in the flying fuck happened to that generation?

>>18049669
No retard you're going back to work and if you die the so be it. Get the FUCK in your car get on the FUCKING highway and GET YOUR SISSY ASS THE F U C K BACK IN YOUR F U C K I N G DESK CHAIR YOU MISERSABLE CUM GARGLING NIGGER

to buy puts today or tomorrow ? strangle perhaps ??

>>18049554
This but unironically

>>18049678
yeah i got it from the ventialtor news too, because another anon got 100 as a fuck it YOLO.on friday so i told him i would get 10 and see what happens

ahhh now GM is dropping

India is shutdown for 3 weeks

>>18049471
>America would rather put 8% of it's elderly on the sacrificial altar than have socialized medicine
Based and metal.

>>18049716
>pull an amazon and become profitable for their investors
so uber can do this, but crypto cant?

ok boomer

>>18049734
look at that fucking peak, puts all the way

>>18049656
900 SQQQ at 24.65. This market is fucked and i'll put my money where my mouth is.

I fucking hate the stock market. None of this shit makes any sense.

DAILY REMINDER THAT UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PRICED IN

>>18049734
why don't you go all in on a roulette?
you'll have much higher chances of profiting (~48% vs 20%)

>>18049732

Lmfao exactly what I mean. Take a look at this sudden pear clutching! Why, you make a grandma in church look bad. Senpai you weren't the one saying it's ok to vacuum an infant's head in utero were you?

>>18049721
I made like $200k from the crypto bubble which i proceeded to lose and more over the next 2 years. dont worry fren

>>18049765
yeah no dumbass

India lockdown. Drug shortages imminent.

>>18049690
im trading options with like $300 dude

>>18049666
Begone Satan! Attractive offer to that anon though.

>>18049734
Puts today. Thursday isn't going to be the bloodbath you expect, the bloodbath comes Wednesday in the panic anticipation. Thursday will crab.

>>18049757
Based and doompilled

>>18049771

How do you figure? There is no house advantage in stock trading. If you find the right price you're at a better implied probability.

>>18049760
>I fucking hate the stock market. None of this shit makes any sense.
/biz/ - Business and Finance.

>Bobos got screwed on SQQQ
Serves you right, arrogant doomers. Markets don't go down forever. Many good news are coming next month.

>>18049554
>our people want to work
He's not serious is he? Besides the people who go mad from being put in isolation for 2 days I'd rather get ubi and stay unemployed than to actually work some low paying retail store job.

which stocks should i buy and should i wait ?

>>18049794
nooo fuck I have to get my modafinil in a month

>>18049750
RIP call centres

>>18049794
Meanwhile, the US, "GET BACK TO WORK"

>>18049772
>now strawmanning
Ok maybe some boomers should be allowed to die

>>18049801
I last bought at $25, sold at $29, and bought again at $24.50 today.

>>18049807
What is that AIDS medicine or some shit

how many levels of pump are we on?

>>18049798
if you think anyone can reliably profit off of options you're delusional

>>18049713
You are retarded if you think that infecting 200 million people will do more good to economy than quickly isolating and dealing with virus in 2 months like China did

The shakeout so far
>No trumpbux
>No promise to get your job back if you lost it
>Being told to work in an unsafe environment and glad for the opportunity
>Oh and we're hyper inflating you currency just because

>>18049760
To some extent, I agree. But gold and crypto are both truly nonsense, especially crypto.

>>18049825
Actual rally based on good numbers from Asian markets and the hopes of a stimulus bill.

>finally have money on interactive brokers
>cant buy soxl,spxl,spxs
>but i can buy ko,appl
what the fuck did i do wrong

>>18049794
How will they poop?

>>18049814

>strawmanning

This is your average redditor. I'm sorry if the truth hurts, you have no principles. If you're not part of that group idk why you're even replying to me. Self described """"""""""""'empaths"""""""""""" are some of the least consistent, vile people imaginable.

Whats the best way to bet on this all crashing to zero? This pump is fucking ludicrous and the moment people start dying in the 1,000/day this whole show will be canceled indefinitely.

>>18049832
Okay, then you don't have to do it?

>>18049841
Sad but true.

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>18049807
Where we're going you won't need sleep.

>bill needing 60 votes to pass
>https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/23/819980899/3-gop-senators-in-self-quarantine-will-be-unable-to-vote-on-coronavirus-relief
>50 active republicans to vote
>needing 10 dems to cross the aisle to vote on a McConnell bill

DOWN WE GO

>>18049807
>he didn't pick up a 90-day supply of Addy 30s before the lockdowns started.

Looks like slow days ahead, anon.

>>18049866
Jesus how many trillions of dollars short are we? Where did the money go?

>>18049832

With most things the major pitfall of options trading is human psychology. The road to $0 is much quicker than the road to $100k. And yes, market timing is very hard. I'm not saying it's easy, I'm saying there is still no inherent house advantage that mathematically disallows you from cutting a profit with great strategy and iron hands. 95% of people don't have great strategy and iron hands.

>>18049815
You like losing? Is that a fetish or hobby of yours?

>>18049866
>haha money machines go brrrrr

>>18048912
ATTENTION IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT DIVIDENDS

I actually found this dank ETF called SPYD it supposedly pays 8.4% dividend and pretty much goes up or down with SPY, can make you 40% in a couple years

>>18049842
>Actual rally based on good numbers from Asian markets
What numbers?
Literally all the numbers everywhere are bad with the exceptions of that countries stock markets.

>>18049806
Buy SQQQ. Wait for long until drop tomorrow/thursday.

>>18049878
Called it. Just wait for the inevitable. Hope you bought SQQQ below 24 earlier, because soon it won't dip past 25 for the rest of the day.

>>18049807
Why not join the liver cirrhosis gang and take adrafinil instead?

NOOOO I BOUGHT STRICTLY DEPRECIATING ASSETS AND NOW I'M LOSING MONEY HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED

>>18049815
Same but I got antsy this morning and got an average of 25.31. Gonna sell it by thursday for over 29.

>>18049774
>which i proceeded to lose and more over the next 2 years
It's depressing tho. I throw in all this "effort" and lose money. So far I'd have been better off never getting involved with stocks and options as I've lost about 15-20% of all my savings thus far.

fuck i should have sold>>18049511

>>18049841
I've always seen gold as something thats useful when the full collapse happens. No one really believes they will ever have to use their gold so they get out even when the markets bad to get cheap fake money.

Gold will never make you rich in a fiat society, but when it crashes you will be a king. I plan to keep $10,000 in my bugout chamber just in case.

Assuming I'll have a life after all this

>>18049749
If we reopen, private medicine will be a tiny problem compared to not having enough ventilators for that 8%, let alone the youngers who show symptoms

>>18049794
But we get all our drugs from China. Unless your huffing curry powder as TM.

>>18049753
Yes because uber literally provides a service, it's not trying to push a new globally accepted currency which is retarded.

>>18049795
our guy

>>18049880
>My doc forces me to visit every 30 days for refills
AAAAAAAAAA

>>18049903
Pump strategies are strongly discouraged

>>18049926
Good enough to screenshot, good enough to sell.

>>18049839
When you put it like this, what reasoning is there for a pump?

Everything is up, not Walmart though. Clown Market

What are you expecting on monday?

>>18049935
Uber has literally never been profitable for its entire existence. Sometimes it sells parts of itself for magic trick "profits". It has always been a tech ponzi scheme.

>>18049967
Infinite magic debt purchases!

>TVIX climbing
Why didn't I believe?

What is a put?

bull trap they need to release unemployment numbers and the damaged earnings report.

>>18049903
Where are you seeing 8.4% yield? I'm seeing like 6%

https://m.sfgate.com/politics/article/California-unemployment-coronavirus-numbers-news-15152303.php

>the daily average of claims over the last seven days is 106,000. The normal average per day is just 2,500, meaning the number of jobless claims has increased by over 4,000%.

>>18049926
I know tf. One of my puts went up massively yesterday and then did a 180 afterwards. Im now at an unrealized loss.

WE BOUNCE

>>18049733
I worked from home before all of this, anon.

>>18049907
>Being this new...
>HSI up 4% overnight
>NKK up 7%
>DAX up 8%
>ASX up 2.5%
>IGPA up 3.5%
etc.

>>18049993
its when you lightly tap a golf ball

So after the tragic job loss numbers come in Thursday, do I buy Friday or Monday?

>>18050007
>fewer people working
>market will go up
BASED FED CLOWN MARKET WORLD

>>18050031
UNLIMITED QE

>>18049983
Oh i forgot about that lol

How fucked am I be honest

>>18050000
Czeched

>>18049734
Puts with protective VIX calls or SVXY puts.

>>18049791
Post portfolio

Can someone explain option trading to me.

How do i know when a put or call is worth it? I just don't get it.

The real downfall hasn't even started.

>>18050024
Jerome and his global cabal of organ grinders are playing the music to make us monkeys dance.

>>18050021
Oh ok then my mistake.

>>18050029
you buy in a month probably

>>18050000
Quads of truth

>>18049954
>got a year extra of spironolactone and estradiol from india a month ago
And they called me crazy!

>>18049554
UM HELLO, BASED DEPARTMENT?

>>18050041
You're fine, hodl.

>>18050024
You literally just quoted only the stock markets. Like literally, give me a country where unemployment decreased, GDP increased, manufacturing increased, exports increased, ANYTHING except the massive stock market circle jerks going on from money printer Fed trying to prop only the stock markets up.

>>18050052
This.

There will be more than one Lehman Brothers this time

>>18049962
fuck youre right

what do you guys think, is GM getting ready for another crazy spike? i just read they have 16 billion in credit they just secured, maybe thats why its mooning

>>18050050
See: >>18049921

Is trump gonna sign this beartrap too?

>>18049388
I'm fine with the jew-hate but the average /po/ tard sounds like underage b8 to me, it's like these people have no idea how anything works anyways.

>>18050050
>>18049993
kys

>>18050052
Real news for once, it’s getting bad and the average normie doesn’t know about these things

>>18050068
post bussy

>>18049979
Neither was amazon but they kept getting funding because they were PROVIDING A SERVICE WHICH HAS VALUE. Taking pine cones and tricking retards into sinking their money into trading different pine cones as potential future currency is retarded.

>>18050029
Thursday

>>18049934
Raw chemicals come from China.
India creates the consumable product

>>18050052
YES! FUCK YES! GIVE ME YOUR HOUSE CHEAP BOOMER FAGGOT

>>18050000
Unironically this
get confirms

>>18049923
Remember all money is inherently worthless. Ultimately we will all be lowered into the grave and whatever things you have in this world will not have value then. Everybody will die. Only God will live. Store up treasure with God.

After all these boomers die, I may have a chance at becoming a professor. Thats cozy

>>18050052
holy fucking shit

this is 2008 ULTRA INSTINCT

>>18049554
new epicentre confirmed. the rest of the world will be over it while US is trawling through piles of bodies

>>18050041
i just sold my SPXS so i woudl stop bleeding money, dont hold that shit

It is over bears Ford,GE and 3M are working together to produce more efficient, simpler and at faster pace, the masks and ventilators needed to deal with this virus

The nothing burger has officially lost any legs it had to stand on

>>18050068
What's the % Arsenic and Lead?

>>18050000
Blessed digits. We’re fucked. Hope you bullfags bought puts. :3

>>18050117
I just bought your bag nigga

>19850
Pump it bull! Jerome is counting on you

>>18050071
>I don't understand how this all works.
That's all you had to say. Nice goalpost move.

>>18050071
https://youtu.be/qOIWD6e4ERUhttps://youtu.be/qOIWD6e4ERU
https://youtu.be/zK-rFEZF_-8
hes right american economy is not self sufficient

>>18050052
>>18050052

how can you profit from this? what do you short?

>>18050052
NRZ is about to collapse too.

>>18049333
Fuck kikes

>>18050089
>Neither was amazon
Where are you seeing this? The only year amazon wasn't making a profit was 2012. Uber has existed for 10 years and never made money. It's been constant cash infusions from new investors the whole time.

>>18050041
at least you wernt holding options

>>18050119
Ford made ventilators are probably gonna work as well as their pintos when taking it form behind.

>>18050163
IVR, it's Referenced right above the article

>>18048912
Thought u faggots said oil wasnt doing anything till june at least

>>18050052
>>18050087
can somebody explain this to me ?

>>18050119
They're just posturing.
Beer flu has peaked in most countries. By the time they setup tooling and machines and materials, it'd be over.
And Tesla vents? Don't get me started on FDA requirements.

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here we go, GM ride incoming!!

This guy gets it.

>>18049079
I'm already holding SPXS, shouldve sold at the high yesterday. getting my anus ripped right now. might just say fuck it and hold through thursday hoping unemployment numbers crash this fake pump. no point dropping it now I guess

>>18050052
>>18050166
I bought some NYMT the other day avg price $1.83 so this doesn't hurt bad atm. Is this firesale prices on something that is going to get bailed out with the Senate bill or is these all gonna bust

did i miss the dip? what the fuck is this

New ratings downgrade news.
S&P Global Ratings said today it
downgraded Provident Funding Associates L.P. to 'CCC+' from 'B-'. The outlook
is negative. We also lowered our ratings on the company's senior unsecured
notes due 2025 to 'CCC+' from 'B-'. We are revising the recovery rating on the
notes to '4', indicating our expectation for average recovery (35%), from
'3'(50%).

>>18050203
this is exactly what bears want though this is literally bearmarket with insane volatility to easily earn cash on riding the waves.

>>18050163
The american housing market

>>18050237
https://finance.yahoo.com/m/56b2c809-d98e-3716-9c0e-a595340f8b9d/dow-jones-surges-1%2C500-points.html?.tsrc=rss

This is all you really need to know desu.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

Tomorrow is going to be green too due to the after effects of the bill getting passed. Best time to load up on Short ETFs/Puts will be tomorrow.

JP Morgan Global advisor & Neuberger Berman Group CIO are on CNBC right now saying this is a dead cat bounce. They keep talking about how we'll rebalance at the the start of April, how the virus is far from over, and how we've lost 90% of liquidity in the market.

>>18050287
not really, dividends are kinda meaningless

>>18050296
BUY BUY BUY
THE FED HAS GOT OUR BACKS

>I can finally get rid of my bloated AMDbags to rebuy at bottom but now my index shorts are in the trash
POWEEEEEEEEEELL

When the fuck is the vote for gibs?

>>18050199
Leverage 6:17.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3TCEz4g1k

>>18050287
A good strategy is to build up your wealth through short (1-5 month) investment rounds on smaller companies in order to capitalize on gains then begin dumping excess into stocks with good dividend returns and consistent performance. AT&T is a favorite of mine as it has essentially been around forever. AT&T has a net 2 dollar dividend per stock you own.

>>18050173
Dude were you literally born yesterday go read about amazon and how long they weren't making a profit for before they became profitable. Jesus for the longest time they were making negative net profit. It doesn't even matter because they aren't the only business like that, I can find you other ones but they actually provided something of value which was a service.

>>18050287
Hope your dividends aren't gonna get cut. Really. It would be a shame for tons of people on fixed incomes

>>18050120
Seems low, been taking it and feels just like the pills PP gives me. However I haven't totally switched over to it, I alternate, in case it isn't totally safe.

It ain't much but my Intelsat stocks are paying off in stark contrast to the other ones. I'm going a bit more aggressive with my strategy for the near term. My puts will age as they will and I'll take whatever I get out of them.

>>18050317
Sorry sir, gibs are only for Ethnic Minorities™, now please return to the wage cage

>>18050191
yeah tahts the holding company, to make money you want to short their holdings. im wondering what they are invested in, since that is what will collapse

>>18050325
how often are dividends paid out

>all these virgins trying to figure out what IV means and how to get approved for a level 2 option account
>meanwhile boomer DCA chads are buying tendies with T MO XOM MSFT DUK NEE divvies
stay poor zoomercucks

ARE TESLA CALLS FOR $1800 STRIKE ON 4/17 FOR $48 A GOOD DEAL?

>>18050380
ALL DIVIDEND CHECKS ARE CANCELLED BECAUSE OF CAROLINA VIRUS.

>>18049970
EBT

>>18050304
do you just not understand the concept of compounding interest?

>>18050163
I'm just sitting on cash and see what happens then i'll dca in some index, i don't want to buy shit hoping for a bailout..

>>18050173
>>18050335
Here is proof since you are too retarded and small minded to look that far back.
>https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1196256/it-took-amazon-amzn-14-years-to-make-as-much-net-profit-as-it-did-in-the-fourth-quarter-of-2017/amp/
No wonder why you got stuck in crypto.

>>18050380
Depends on the company. You have quarterly dividend yield companies as well as annual dividend yield companies. When selecting a company, simply look into their dividend yield data when making a decision.

>>18050390

>MASSIVE NY HOSPITAL SHORTAGE!
>Markets up 7%

>>18050390
Hell yeah.

>>18050393
Not based.

>>18050390
oh boy tsla up 15%. Good thing everyone is free to speculate on pie in the sky bullshit with all their money again now that jerome has their back. It's not like that's what caused this dump in the first place.

>>18050069

DOW just crossed 20K.

>>18050396
yeah I do, that's why I'd rather have the company invest the money into itself so it can grow more rather than give the money to investors which most of them are gonna waste

>>18050416
This is clown world, markets make no sense.

>>18050435
based and growthpilled

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/floor_activity_pail.htm

do you guys hear these dumb fuck boomers
vote might not even happen friday kek

>>18050453
it's never gonna happen

>>18050435
.......How are you this retarded?

>>18050416
>>18050446
>the dow should just dip 10% everyday in a row until it's close to 0.

>>18050468
they're just gonna keep dragging it out until corona peak passes naturally and pretend like they did something

>>18050403
just looked up the at&t dividend yield. looks very nice indeed. thanks for the recommendation anon.

>>18050469
he's absolutely right, dividends are for zero growth boomer companies, just slam all your free cash flows into marketing your 80% profit margin software as a service

welcome to 2020 pops

>>18050435
some companies (like KO, JNJ, PG, etc) would not adequately invest that money to where it would grow more than it would compounding for the investor. it is a hedge against mismanaging profits

I just doubled and tripled up on all my PUTS.
How about you?

>>18050052
Just bought 30 put contacts let's go.

>>18050468
God willing.

>>18050501
>some companies (like KO, JNJ, PG, etc) would not adequately invest that money to where it would grow
then don't invest in boomerchips

>>18050502
>about to get rekt
Dude I hope Thursday is bloody red for you guys.

>>18050493
>Zero growth boomer companies.
>Even Microsoft and apple pays dividends because they are financial incentives for long term investment in the company and its capital.
>"Nooo! You shouldn't get anything out of this!"
>"Wait! Why are you withdrawing all of your money and reducing my working capital!?!! STOP!!!!"
Same question to you:
How are you this retarded?

>>18050502
i want to grab SPY puts but dont know how far out gives best bang for the buck

how do you guys choose the date of expiry? is there a minimum i should be picking, like 2 weeks out, 4 weeks out, 2 months?

>>18049755
>>18049755
>>18049755
>>18049755
old new

>>18050468
"It takes us over a year to decide on the budget, we're trying to write a bill that spends >1 year of gross disrectionary spending in under a week."
>t. Senator whatever his name is just now.

>>18050546
do you think retarded tech unicorn bubbles will ever stop happening?

>>18050453
>The President asked for $2,000,000,000
>We want to give him $2,000,000,000,000
HONK

>>18050550
Minimum of 1 month so you don't get rekt.

>>18050524
Why would I get rekt?

>>18050558

>>18050568
I literally used a few random newer ones. Not boomer companies, not institutions of our stock market.
....You're new here aren't you?

>>18050599
....Do you not know how this works?
Like, did you think the market would keep on going down indefinitely?
Tell me, what was the time period on those puts? What month and day did you select on them?

>>18050599
Because in case you haven't noticed, people are reluctant to bet against the market because it's way more risky in general to do that. Also you are expecting the markets to be rational which we have known from the very beginning of stock trading they aren't...

>>18050646
>>18050697
>+7% day when New York is going to have 50,000 deaths next week.
You think +7% is sustainable?
Let me guys, this was the bottom?
All up from here bro!
Just ignore the tens of thousands of deaths coming!

>>18049434
Lmao yuropoor gonna poor

>>18049931
If there’s a full collapse people will trade food and bullets. Your shiny metals will be worthless

>>18050646
May 15th

>>18050718
I never said it would go up indefinitely.
Fucking reading comprehension. Do you have it?
Hell you want me to tell you what will happen?
We have ups and downs on the markets. That's it. Just because they go down for a while doesn't mean that they go down indefinitely. Just because they go up for a while doesn't mean they don't go up indefinitely.
Fucking learn to read you absolute moron.
Your tendy money is better off in my pocket than yours at this point.

>>18050304
dividends are great if you need more cash to buy more stocks.

>>18050201
>peaked
Nobody actually knows that, yeah?

>>18050550
>like 2 weeks out
enjoy getting BTFO

>>18050718
>the dow should just keep dropping 10% a die because the rate of people dying per minute globally is slightly higher for those age range +60yrs
Oof, I don't think you have experienced how the market prices things in and that volatility right now has dropped like a brick. It took people a few weeks to come up with the possible worst outcome for this scenario which because of doom fags and bi-partisan shilling was total collapse or some retarded purge movie plot. The death of one is a tragedy anon, the death of millions is just a statistic to the public anon.

>>18050760
Modestly ok. A lot of the morons from /pol/ have been trying to get in on the march 27th puts like absolute morons. 40% of my funny robinhood money (Just yolo cash really) is on puts out to June 19th.
The rest is sitting in intelsat doing short term growth.

>>18050786
If I could just freeze myself in stasis for 100 years i'd be rich.

>>18050777
Lmao you are such a fucking retarded narcissist.
>You are dumb! You bought puts on a green day! Youre rekt! But we will also go up and down! Now your money is mine! Lol!
Fuck dude, literally everyone knows what you just said, apparently you were the last idiot to figure it out.

>>18050808
>-10%
Where did I say that? We're going to see many -3% days to come.

>>18050863
Ok so you actually are stupid. You assume any chastisement for your bad financial decisions is saying things nobody period is saying.
>>>/pol/
You have to go back.

>>18050863
>Where did I say that? We're going to see many -3% days to come.
You didn't but it doesn't matter because it doesn't change the core argument what I'm saying here that the panic for the pandemic has been settled in. We have decided to let a few elderly die for the average Joe to be employed. I don't think you understand which is more important to the average person.

>>18050921
>We have decided to let a few elderly die for the average Joe to be employed
source?

>>18051027
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/politics/coronavirus-texas-social-distancing-guidelines/index.html

Texas has the worst takes as usual.

>>18051027
Hey, in case you haven't been listening to the news Trump wants a quarantine and to pass a stimulus package, Democrats are being fuck retarded and adding a 1400 pages of added demands for them and it will probably never get passed. People are already feeling the devastating effect from the lower end (retail, local businesses, restaurants) and more people will naturally be concerned with putting bread on the table than grandma dying. If you want sources it will take multiple but it doesn't take a genius to figure out maslow's hierarchy of needs here kid. God I wish this shit were more common sense among the youth.

>>18050390
Definitely

>>18051082
Yeah but we also have the worst climate for this virus and we are spread out as fuck. I don't think you guys get this.

>>18051082
thats a suggestion

>>18051120
you said "we have decided" it when its just your opinion on what's gonna happen based ona few suggestions

>>18051144
The viral spread on just 1 day in the U.S. yesterday was 11K and is spreading rapidly still. But the point is that of course the Texas governor decides it would be better for the poor and the old to die in pursuit of that mighty dollar.

>>18051158
Oohhh you are right when it comes to the good folks it definitely looks like they are siding with the grannies and grandpas to letting their families starve. That's sarcasm btw. Also going back to something Stalin once said, "the death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is just a statistic." You guys missed out too on buying on the rumor and selling on the news because now you guys are stuck on the news rather than the rumors.

>>18051209
No shit because it's been around for a while and a lot of people probably already had it and didn't know about it. People will only give a shit if the death rates sky rocket to like 10%. Do you see that happening with the average age and current mortality rate of people of dying to this shit?

>>18051241
The economy is staying shut because no one, and especially Trump, doesn't want to tie their name with millions of deaths. Keep dreaming about that sweet retirement boomer its not happening. You will be forced to beg for help from the very generation you have screwed

>>18051313
Oof I hate to say it but even with a million dead before the year ends (won't happen) Trump still beats a good chance at Joe Biden and he did say in 15 days he would reconsider doing the whole quarantine thing which is long enough for him to use to the war time powers to force more manufacturing on masks and hand sanitizers which is literally happening and I will hand you sources on that if you don't believe me. He has already enacted them and is doing it. We would have a stimulus package if it weren't for the dems.

>>18051408
Boomers are the most disgusting creatures on earth i swear. Imagine wanting your children to keep working in a global pandemic and risk death just so your retirement stocks don't take a hit.
Imagine beeing this much of a lowlife scumbag

>>18050757
>what is all of human history

You can be in my fiefdom anon dont worry

>>18050473
Yes

>>18051484
You think this is about boomers? I know a ton of young folk who want to go back to work now because that depend on that shit. Some even business owners, are you literally saying this is just what boomers want and not everyone who isn't part of big corporation bail out that is about to come. Un-fucking believable how out of touch some of you guys are. Think of the guys making less than 45k a year and how fucked they are right now.

>>18051577
yes i think thats what boomers want as evidenced by every fucking boomer everywhere calling for people to "go back out there and let high risk demographics quarantined". Your anecdotal evidence means nothing since i also know tons of people that don't want to risk being outside

>>18051627
Love in fucking meme world then it's all a joke to you guys anyway. Really not funny as a guy who runs his own private business in his 30s.

>>18051678
>Live
Fixed although it doesn't make a diff in this faggy cult

>>18051526
Then buy more puts and stop complaining bitch.

>>18051408
>million dead before the year ends (won't happen)
A million is only about 0.3% of the population. If there's about 7M people in the U.S. that are over 80, and the kill rate for all of them is 16%, then that's 1.12M.
So it seems possible at this point. But who knows what will actually happen.

>>18050921
The UK decided that as well, and then the backlash came as reality settled in. Trump is trying to keep his voterbase happy for reelection, and he will switch sides in a week.

>>18051678
While i respect people that have their own business you just have to accept the risk with the upside bro. You can't shill for people to risk being hospitalized just because you are losing money. And if you are like that irl too then i feel sorry for your employees.And probably that's where your get the "I know a ton of young folk who want to go back to work now" shit, its from your employees that are afraid to tell you the truth.
You are unethical

>>18051678
Healthy businesses can survive a crash. And besides that, owning a business comes with inherent risks. Otherwise just become a regular employer and you dont have to worry about any of those inherent risks.

>>18051774
>You are unethical
You know the irony hearing this on /smg/ of all places shows we have an influx of faggots who have changed culture here. What I'm trying to do isn't bad it's just to connect greed here together which is what I know humanity can ultimately unite on.

>>18051867
>Healthy businesses can survive a crash. And besides that, owning a business comes with inherent risks.
I have an international small engineering company (without getting into too much detaol) and what you are saying theoretically easy for anyone to say in the practical sense who has ever run a business. The things happening before the quarantine even happened were a logistic nightmare, I'm still having to figure out other than letting an engineer from Europe stay at my house until we get an easier way to get him back home because of the travel ban between America and Europe. Everything going on in China isn't easier. The irony in the whole situation that I'm pissed is not because I'm worried about failing because we were looking to expand before all this happened I'm glad I just sat on the cash. It's just that I had to play it safe and I let off 2 people from my company back in early February and I know they are in the shitter right now with everything going on. You idiots don't fucking understand what is at stake here.

>>18052174
I know it's incorhertant as fuck but I'm pissed and have to work.

>>18052174
>we have an influx of faggots who have changed culture here
I've been here since the board was created. What's ironic is that you have taken 4chan fuckery and translated it into a real worldview and you're hoping for people to die so that you don't lose money