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faggot

>>17989827
Take a 4 gram dose of psilocybin mushrooms.

>>17989857
this is my board you little monkey nigger. i fuck you till you love me you no brained single cell parasite. i made half this board filthy rich you stupid nigger. i want you to eat a dick chew on it faggot

>>17989886
fukn subhuman europoor
you ungrateful piece off fukn shit
u didn’t do shit for this board u fukn europoor i did
plebbitor
apologize

>>17989949
ronald go back cave

>>17989999
suck a dick u insufferable europoor
i told u wat to do
apologize right now

>>17989827
You're need to stop trying to fix something. It's all good.

>>17989827
You sound bipolar.

>>17989827
Quick guys how do I get a Korean gf?

>>17989827
thats a man

I have unrealistic high expectations about my life which will never be met and so I fantasise about them

being admired by everyone is my biggest fantasy and I dont think there is any solution OP, its how our brains are wired. We're just different

>>17989827
There is a really good movie that contains the perfect guide to get rid of your ego. It's called Revolver. Make sure you watch the uncut edition since rapey weinstein butchered the US edition.

>>17989827
unironically do cocaine

eat about 5-6 grams of shrooms

>>17989999
Wasted

>>17989827
Read pic related.

>>17989827
read eckhart tolle my friend

>>17989827
Read philosophy and you'll develop a rational mind and get out of this way of life. I'd recommend Soren Kierkegaard specifically for your condition, but you'd do well to educate yourself on a broad overview of philosophy as a general subject before you dive in.

Fast mode: look into mindfulness, stoicism and all that - but that's pleb level shit. If you're too smart, it won't work sufficiently as it does for others.

Bronze Age Mindset
Ignore all other recommendations in this thread.

>>17989827
Look at your face in the mirror,
breath through your nose
don't try to change it
just look at everything, observe the good the bad what you love what you hate.
Don't try to love yourself or hate yourself, just be critical on both sides.

>>17990724
BAP is self-help hopium for incels, although if you're going to read it then at least educate yourself in philosophy, history and literature first.

>>17989827
Alright my little American Psycho sounds like you’re living life on easy mode and you are great at enhancing your own wealth. You need a challenge that causes risk to yourself because you clearly are a severe narcissist (which is fine btw). Take a couple of tabs of acid, or rob a bank, or adopt a loser and try and improve his life while risking your own. You need something bigger to stroke your ego.

>>17989827
Sounds like Narcissism. Read The Last Psychiatrist. I am the same.

>>17990700
Not true. I'm a few standard deviations above average, but mediation/mindfulness fixed my depression.

OP, read Eckhart Tolle and then move on to The Mind Illuminated. Meditation is the answer.

>>17989827
Book recommendation.

>>17990913
Read Nietzche and your little eastern cope will erode to dust

>>17989886
>>i made half this board filthy rich
Thanks bossman. I really enjoy PNK memes too. I'm not just rich, I'm happy now.

>>17989879
>>17990616
Not OP, but i'm afraid that i'll loose all my ambition if i eat psylocibin mushrooms. Can anyone red pill me on this?

>>17991068
you won't. you're a biological being. even if your ego dies, the old zen saying goes, "before enlightenment chop wood and carry water. after enlightenment chop wood and carry water." you will relate to the external differently, but your basic needs won't change as a living being

>>17989879
>bro, dude lmao like I can see the future woah
Lmao at least get some good drugs you human meme

>>17991068
ok, easy:

don't do them if you're not ready. you absolutely need to have a self-analytical structure in place prior to doing shrooms, otherwise it will just be a profoundly physically uncomfortable experience. the end result will be the same as if you participate in the straw challenge without researching it. *maybe* that would be the kind of growth you personally would need at this point in your life, but you will miss the entire point of shrooms. it would be a waste of the material and people would be justified in calling you an idiot for not doing the prep and you'd probably agree.

and honestly, by the time you finish reading something like the myth of sisyphus, you wouldn't even need the drug induced psychotic break to experience the benefit of ego death.

>>17989827
Go into Buddhism, but I warn you, you will have to face a lot about yourself

>>17989886
yah youre not rich, faggot

>>17989827

All of your problems would literally be solved if you were able to live more in the present

Meditate. Study buddhism as well as new age gurus such as Eckhart tolle(easy to get into), Ram Dass, etc. Alan watts has great audios.

Go deep enough and you will find the truth. All of this other stuff is cope.

>>17989827
Bipolar

>>17991214
You never did this have you?

>>17991295
Cringe. Eastern philosophy is midwit cope for idiots who struggle to read western philosophy.

>>17992279

Based /lit/ crossposter. Meditation is for faggots, it solves nothing and people who try to eliminate their ego are ironically the most self-absorbed people you will meet.

Peace of mind isn't something you can buy at a Barnes and Nobles. Life is a lot more complex than muh gurus have all the answers. Figure it out yourself OP.

>>17991068

Depends on what your ambition is. Very unlikely though, unless you are putting yourself through needless 60-hour plus workweeks filled with misery. In which case losing your ambition might not be such a bad thing.

>>17992353
>Depends on what your ambition is.
Well i'm on /biz aren't i?

>>17989827
op you need to set high goals that you will never achieve in your lifetime, the reward will almost always NEVER as good as you think it will but suffering for it does bring closure and stops the restlessness because you had to suffer to get what you want.

Don't listen to the retards on here telling you to do drugs, I've seen frequent use weed/cocaine/meth kill more ambition in old friends than the holocaust, it makes you dopamine reliant.

Getting rid of ego with your apparent bpd is also not an option but that's shit advice from coping autists anyway because the richest and most successful people throughout history nearly always had a serious ego, that wasn't fragile of course.

I wish I didn't type this much shit

You could try acid.

>>17993229

So it's to be rich? Yeah don't worry it won't turn you into a dirty hippie who disdains material attachment. I'm still greedy as fuck lol.

>>17989827
...are you me?

>>17993555
desu i think there are a lot more people like this than any of us realise

>>17989827
fuck, I wish I could find the links again
I had some links to a collection of posts of an old deleted forum, which was created to free it's members from their egos
it was highly effective and you could experience the state of no ego after maybe 5-10 hour of reading
it was grounded in the realization that there in fact is no ego and thus nothing to be destroyed
and since there is no ego, there is no you (or what you think you are) as well
I might have brainwashed myself reading this, but I shit you not, I give much less fucks since I read it a few years ago

>>17989827
I really want to sleep with an Asian woman.

>>17990953
>>17992279

I was heavily into western philosophy before I got to eastern. Nietzsche and such are interesting, but ultimately they are lost in ideas and concepts of the mind. Eastern philosophy gets you closer to both truth and happiness. It's not a cope either, it's actually much closer to the truth of existence than idea-based philosophies.

I'm not going to preach, you'll get there or you won't. My own experience in comparing different philosophies and lifestyles has taught me that eastern philosophy leads to true happiness, which is the only thing that matters in the end.

>>17993841
How has your life changed since then?

You need to read Carl Jung. True Happiness comes from creativity and creating something with substance. "Sex" is the what we all crave because it's the lowest form of energy in creation. You also need to learn about the shadow and anima so you can so doing the proper work to integrate them into your self.

>>17989827
>what books should i read to fix this
unironically the Bible, specifically the Book of Ecclesiastes. it talks about exactly what you are going through and may be of help to you.

>>17994072
The Bible is a death cult that worship DEATH. Christians believe your real life don't start until you die. That is a big NO for anyone who is feeling depressed.

>>17989827
>even when i achieve certain materialistic goals or nut in a 9/10, its actually never as good as i thought it would be. the imagination of doing it is nicer than actually living it

>>17989827
I want to nut in this 10/10

>>17994099
Protip: Solomons solution to making life worthwhile in the book of Ecclesiastes does not involve the reader having to die.

>>17994042

i hear Jung referenced by many intelligent people i listen to, if you had to recommend just one book by him for someone to read which would it be?

>>17994099
it's more like the idea that you can die to yourself, and your new life is one in which Christ lives through you. viewed in a different way, it could be good for depressed people because they get what they want, to die, and get to instead live for something greater than themselves

>>17989886
There's a cool feature on these new keyboards called a 'shift' key. You should try it out. Siiiiipppppppppppppp

>>17993982
what changed the most, was like I said, that I really give much less fucks about what others think
it was really a physical relief once it clicked for me
I don't give zero fucks, but it's pretty close to that
also I'm generally happy, not ecstatic, just happy
and whatever happens, it won't really pull me down and I can easily accept it
it's a bit like a super lite form of permanent vacation, where I'm happy about everything because things are new and exciting and I'm just happy to be alive
I still experience anger and all and not every day is perfect, but the general baseline of my conscious state is set to happy and curious
it's hard to explain, and I really wish I could find these posts again

Hey man. Get out of yourself and help others. Find a cause you’re passionate about and volunteer.

>>17994172
Modern Man in Search of a Soul.

>>17993872

Don't, it will ruin you for life, if you lose her and have to go back to dating your own race it's like being a heroin addict that has to settle for aspirin.

>>17993578
This gives me so much hope that there are other sick cunts in the world that are smashing those material goals, scanning 4chan/biz to get even more CHAD like.
This thread has made me happy.

For those that are still working on this: Keep going, keep trying, you will reach the CHAD level, incrementally, day by day, over the next few years. OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. It takes time, just remember that once you are here, you will feel the same unless you change something internally.
Then its changed for eternity to enlightenment!
NIRVANA is so close, because its always there

Chad on fellow undercover/lowkey boss motherfuckers!!!

>>17994228
Sounds like you learnt to love yourself without needing an ego or at least some form of this; I can definitely back this kind of mindset but I'd take an optimistic-nihilism approach that let's people still achieve their full potential.

>>17994377
Really? Is it that good?

>>17994408
mate /biz/ is best used occasionally for crytpo memes, saucing pics of hot babes and the once in a while thread like this, i would be on a smith and wesson retirement plan right now if i unironically used this place for investment advice

>>17993516
>don't worry it won't turn you into a dirty hippie who disdains material attachment
I don't give a fuck about sports cars, jewelry, escort girls, coke. However, it's /biz or being a slave in white collar. The tie symbolize the collar and the chain.

>>17994492
>>17989827
I think I found it after searching for over an hour
read that at your own risk, it could really fuck you up your psyche permanently
really, this is some brain washing level shit
>http://online.fliphtml5.com/nmgy/rbba/

>>17989827
Relax m8. Be yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52iW3lcpK5M

>>17994955
Just a coincidence.

>>17994937
Thanks, I'll skim it later and see what I can learn from it; I've already went through my fair share of mental hypertrophy so it shouldn't be a problem.

>>17994377
Checked can confirm. I started 2 years ago and I have trouble staying hard with non Asian Qts :( any biz bro’s have a remedy?

>>17989827
Literally me and I’m 25. Successful in life with a good job and good genes but want to die. Any solution to this?

>>17995060
Rub the lotion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D37aUdKcD3o

>>17993953
nietzsche is a C grade thinker. people who think otherwise are the same people who feel obligated to believe in whatever a book says because they put all the time and effort into reading it

studying heidegger is how you truly arrive at eastern thought by way of western thought.

>>17995060
Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for these desires exists. A baby feels hunger; well, there is such a thing as food. A duckling wants to swim; well, there is such a thing as water. Men feel sexual desire; well, there is such a thing as sex. If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world. If none of my earthly pleasures satisfy it, that does not prove that the universe is a fraud. Probably earthly pleasures were never meant to satisfy it, but only to arouse it, to suggest the real thing. If that is so, I must take care, on the one hand, never to despise, or be unthankful for, these earthly blessings, and on the other, never to mistake them for the something else of which they are only a kind of copy, or echo, or mirage. I must keep alive in myself the desire for my true country, which I shall not find till after death. - CS Lewis

>>17995041
no problem and all the best, hope you find it interesting
also here is a direct pdf link as well
>https://krishnamurti.abundanthope.org/index_htm_files/Brutal-Beginnings-ebook.pdf
the site I linked to earlier won't let you directly save the pdf

OP this is what is happening:

Your mind is a dog in large field running the fuck around

What you want is your mind tied to a pole so it can't wander around too much and you can focus on your tasks at hand

if you practice anapanasati for 20 min every day for 2 months you will fix yourself

>>17991068
Losing “ambition” in context of being a white collar bitch slave is a good thing. You’ll see more clearly in terms of what actually being successful means

>>17989879
>>17990616
Don’t listen to these pussies.

Take a 24 gram dose of shrooms

>>17991068
Nah man that's what weed does. Mushrooms tell you what's important, and what needs to be done, explicitly. What you do with that information is up to you.

>>17991224
>you absolutely need to have a self-analytical structure in place prior to doing shrooms, otherwise it will just be a profoundly physically uncomfortable experience. the end result will be the same as if you participate in the straw challenge without researching it.
i have just spent five minutes of my time trying to figure out what the fuck you meant by this

>>17994099
You ever think it's related to the whole "life being an illusion" / "veil of reality" belief system?

Obviously I dont encourage anyone to kill themselves because that's pretty fucked up. But I wouldnt go around saying the bible is a "death cult" either

>>17989827
You sound like me, constantly striving for perfection and self improvment thinking you have't achieved it yet. Anon, We are more accomplished than 99% of adults, and if you still have a job right now that really says something. Keep at it. you're doing good!

>>17996554
Hes saying you need to go into the experience with a purpose and a plan to analyze yourself because if you're not ready for what you're going to see, it's going to fuck you up. Dont approach it like it's a fucking party and you're just going to get high

>>17996638
no i want to know what he meant about the fucking straw challenge what the fuck is that i googled and got some tiktok shit, how does that relate to psychedelic drugs

>>17993872
>Asian Women
Why? they are all like teenage boys with No tits or ass

>>17989827
I used to be the same , still am to some extent. But I found reading and following a lot of stoic stuff helps

>>17990643
Can recommend , good book

>>17990858
>>17990700
Both of these, I find trying to assist plebs improve them self to help aswell

>>17994928

Yeah so you already speak and think in metaphors. You will love psychedelics.

>>17992333
It’s not so much about eliminating your ego, but about controlling it. Anyone that says to actually get rid of your ego are mid wits tho

>>17989827
I'm writing a book for you

basically if you get everything you want you'll be empty and hollow. Living in the past and the future is human, only animals live in the present. You need a mission, a campaign. You need to find your goals. Sex is nice but you're programmed to pursue it and then regret it. Need a real goal aside from the easy stuff like pussy and money.

show me your yacht or your chopper or your last trip to Vietnam. If you aint got those things start collecting. I want to see your reef tank you can dive in, your best selling novel, your new video game. Whatever the fuck moves you, do it.

Looking for an Asian wife, any clue where I can find one? She can live with me on my farm in America.

>>17989827
>Take Nirvana, Action!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n0gaCif_x4

I tried acid and I rekt. Don't believe some magical plant or toad venom is going to solve this shit, it really won't.

>>17996899
You don't want it to be solved.

>>17996850

Um... Asia?

>>17996850
Asia

>>17989827
Help others. It gets out outside of yourself. Also, spend time in nature. Read the Bible. (Don't believe it? ...then first read "culture of critique" the protocols of zion, and Henry Ford's Newspaper on ((them)). Goyim Juice, on archive.org) You will become a believer, and your own problems will seem trivial in the grand scheme of things.

>>17996855
And after taking Nirvana
>Take it beyond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-6fsmMnZw

>>17997002
Based. Let us keep doing Gods work my brother. I will be praying for you. I love you.

>>17989827
Download a textbook on cognitive behavior therapy and start practicing whichever techniques you enjoy, alternatively go to a psychologist (has to know CBT) for the same reason - to learn the techniques. That's the most important part, in that it's the fastest to learn and put into practice. Then you need to start getting into philosophy, which really just means reading primary texts and getting some university textbook on philosophy. If you can't find them on your own go to a university that has their syllabus open and look through them, this is usually only viable if you speak a second language (any European one other than English), because this is more common in Europe than anywhere else. Alternatively you can use open syllabus and search by field etc. thirdly, this is connected to philosophy, but read up on Buddhism, I am not advocating religion here, but the underlying philosophy, psychology and techniques (mindfulness, anapanasati and vipassana meditation) are useful in your case as well in that your issues are all intellectual (i.e. idea, thought) as in, internal, mental, psychological.

These are the books i use:
>Cognitive Behavior Therapy - Basics and Beyond, 2nd ed. by Beck
>Gathering the Meanings: The Arthavinishchaya Sutra & its Commentary (Outline of Buddhism)
>Anapanasati - Mindfulness of Breathing by Ven. Buddhadasa Bhikkhu (Treatise on Anapanasati meditation)

Again, you will have to immerse yourself in solving the problem and you can only focus on one problem at a time, consciously, you have to put everything else on autopilot to the best of your abilities and put all of your time and conscious effort into solving each individual problem, one at a time. Although books are great, without application they are useless, and without immersing yourself people generally get distracted or when building a habit, they revert to previous habits. I'd recommend going to a psychologist (not just a therapist) who knows CBT.

>>17989827
>>17997149
In terms of philosophy I'd recommend looking through primary texts and start sifting through it all chronologically, from old to new, ancient philosophers were more concerned with ethics - how to live life - than contemporary philosophers of today, not to mention these ancient philosophers actually applied their respective philosophy to themselves, to their lives, while that is completely lost today both within and outside of philosophy. Download anything that stands out to you, I assume ethics will probably be the most relevant in regards to your complaints. Though books won't help with getting out of your head, I'd recommend you look at Mazlow's hierachy of needs etc. and consider if you actually have the essentials of life covered, people tend to focus on the material and lose themselves in that sense in the pursuit of material things, external things, and wonder why they're depressed - usually it's that one or more of their needs aren't met, usually something found within oneself, not an external thing to buy. Regardless of where you start, philosophy solves all problems in the end, but it takes awhile to get there in that you yourself have to philosophize, inspired by what you read.

>>17992279
I spent years reading western philosophy. It is nice mental masturbation but Eastern trumps it both in terms of results and practicality. Western is of the mind maze and eastern transcends the mind problem.

>>17989827
>>17997149
>>17997285
Finally, keep a journal that you right in - split it two parts one being a diary of where you just write whatever you want into it without filtering yourself, do not edit yourself either, and don't worry about being emotional because it'll help you figure out what exactly the core dysfunction is that is causing you to suffer; the second part is an idea journal, only write in this when you have an epiphany, and again don't filter yourself and don't edit yourself, while you read philosophy this will be invaluable to you, but you could also put any epiphany in this part, regardless this will help you in the long run both in philosophizing but also in introspection.

During this journey, don't apply labels to yourself in that you join this or that school of thought or this or that style of thinking or technique, this will constrict you and ultimately end all improvement and box you in.

>>17991068
this has been the entire reason ive put off doing them for the last 13 years. but i guess ive been ready after reading these replies

>>17989827
does a dopamine fast work?

literally do nothing for a week. when you get home you can either meditate, walk or write. nothing else

>>17996638
you can still approach it like a party sometimes if you want. in fact if you try to force self analysis during a trip, that can spoil it and make you lose faith in the process and yourself to some extent by extension. maybe sometimes you just needed to have a good time. maybe sometimes you need a good memory. i still don't entirely advocate for this process or drug use in general, but good memories "to tide one over" so to speak are underrated

>>17996674
what i meant by that is there's still technically value in nearly drowning yourself because you saw someone on tiktok dare you to try to drink out of a toilet paper roll or whatever. there's still technically value in having a bad trip and looking at your friends/some internet community differently afterwards and thinking "you're all a bunch of goddamn idiots. what the fuck was i thinking. i'm never doing that again." sometimes it helps people to a) know that they're prone to not looking out for their best interests and b) be familiar with the circumstances/"feelings" surrounding that. a fool doesn't always have to be a fool if they get good at sensing when they're a fool

again, though, i do not advocate drug use or psychedelic therapy. in the same way, i advocate against immodest caffeine use and strongly advocate for healthy sleep habits. it's even irresponsible to parachute b vitamins thinking it's okay cause you'll pee them out. that shit's an underrated source of anxiety. use numerous cayenne powder capsules if you want intense energy and mental clarity. dyor and gird your loins for that of course, but that at least won't exacerbate underlying bipolar/schiz/anxiety

anyway re-upping this suggestion re: ego-reads

Feed the go this is society. Go to major violent sports events and embrace the barbarism. Snort coke and feel your heart best in your eyes. Live debauchery like nature intended

>>17992333
Why do you limit meditation to those who fail in it? Imagine if I considered weight lifting useless, bodyweight training useless because there are people struggling with desire and self-control who are fat and fail at both. Meditation as practiced by amateurs who choose things like TM etc. instead of anapanasati or vipassana are doomed to fail, just as those who skip leg day, but that doesn't remove the value of successful meditation. Don't get me wrong, I agree with what you've said, but don't let those who fail at things be the example itself and thus cause you to miss out on worthwhile endeavors.

>>17989827
meditate
it's great but I warn you it ain't easy

I have done many doses of shrooms and LSD, and while it changed my outlook on life in a very valuable way (eg. made me embrace my loner autism personality instead of trying to forcefully fix it - this improved my sociability a lot, among many other various insights) it didn't fix my problems.

My real obstacles were still there and I realized there is no way but through. I'm still working at them years later and have a long way to go.

If you have serious life problems, some pseud introspection and drugs wont fix them. Might help you get the resolve to tackle them though..

>>17989827
You need to suffer. Watch your best friend die, get a serious injury or chronic illness, lose your favorite creative outlet, work your ass off for years in pursuit of a reward that never materializes, fall in love with a girl and get cheated on, anything along those lines. Your current mentality is for spoiled faggots who have never done or felt anything of consequence.

>>17995203
This is absolutely amazing. 10 pages of reading this has given me more insight than I’ve had in my entire life. I’m not exaggerating. Thank you very much for sharing this.

>>17995203
This is unbelievable, these people are actually philosophizing in real time and you get to experience it, chapter three caused some things to click. Honestly didn't think it would have been good, thought it was going to be more meme shit, but this is a hidden gem right here.

>>17989827
> 24 years old

STOP BEING A LITTLE BITCH. You're so young. You have so many more life-ruining mistakes to make.

For instance ,I bet you don't even hold 1M Nervos.

>>17995203
>>17998214
Chapter 1-3 was good but a lot of it is unbelievably cringey, they haven't applied their conclusions to their life. Slaves to spooks instead of a self.

>>17998027
>>17998214
awesome, I hoped some would love it as much as I did
I haven't thought about it since the day I read it maybe 5 or 6 years ago in the summer, but can still feel the effect from the moment things did click for me
I sat there staring at my screen and then felt an immense relieve, then stood up and brought out the trash from under my desk, just for the experience
I can still remember it vividly
I think I didn't even finish the book, as I already got all I needed
it's probably different for everybody, but for me knowing I don't exists is some sort of underlying permanent calmness
what I remembered to make it work for me was to just really experience/life the moment not thinking about what I read and the "you" and all this shit but really just sitting there staring/looking at a screen
hope it works for you out as well, the book did work really great for me since it has this brutal in your face approach that you sometimes can find here as well
I'm off now, so I can't follow up
>>17998454
ah shit, I was just about to respond
what didn't you like about their conclusions? honest question, I have just re-read until page 25 or so and will read the rest tomorrow
for me personally, the conclusion was that my persona doesn't exists, that the past and everything I thought about myself was meaningless (I never had a self esteem problem or something, so just usual comfort zone problems) and that I can do and be whatever I want
in the end it was an overall freeing experience for me
did you really applied what they wrote, or just read and thought about it?
it's nothing you can figure out by thinking about it, you really need to sit there, open your eyes and accept that you don't exists
and just experience life
it will click and then you can't and wan't go back
fuck now I wrote a fucking blogpost, I'm back in 5 min if you have a followup reply
otherwise I'm off to sleep
all the best regardless

>>17989827

lol get used to it kid

>>17989827
First, check your diet and lifestyle, make sure you are treating your brain like the fragile organ it is. Most zoomers and millenials think health is just not being fat.

What you need in life is just two things: adventure and community. Think of everything from those two frames. You need to take risks and strategize to have adventure, you need to socialize and build networks to find community. Community protects your downside, adventure insures upside potential.

Most people get one and settle with it, or sacrifice one for a bit more of the other. You need both for the ecosystem. It's not just some r/k strategy or mice paradise takeaway.

Everything that lasts is an ecosystem. It's true for external environments, just like it's true for the human experience.

>>17989879
Make it 5, and no, you wont lose motivation... Wtf?
Prepare for the trip properly tho and think analitically about the present/your mindset.

Be ready to unpack what you "learned" for weeks after the experience.