/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17921821
WAHHHHHHHHH, WAHHHHHHHHH. life's not fair faggot, get over it. Kikes blow, but what can you do about it

>>17921821
>most landlords are inherited
Do you have statistics on this or are you just pulling out of your ass?

>>17921821
why don't you buy them the house instead?

>>17921821
Why don't you buy a property then? You can rent it out for more money to the generation that will come after you.

>>17921821
I worked overtime and invested half my income so I could retire early. You can do the same

>>17921821
would breed for rent

>>17921821
Get another roommate if rent is so expensive

>>17921821
>why are landlords not considered parasites to society?

They are though... most people hate their landlords from the scummy shit they do year round. I've literally never rented from someone who didnt try to weasel out of agreements like fixing washing machines, showers, plumbing, etc...

Landlords are considered cancer for a reason

>>17921889
>life's not fair faggot, get over it.

>No

>>17921920
because he's priced out, he literally can't afford a downpayment with the stagnant wages and increasing rents

basically if you were born in this particular time you lucked out

>>17921889
So you agree then that they don't contribute anything?
>>17921923
>Just waste your 20's and your 30's away working 80 hours a week lmao

>>17921821
Nice cope poorfag

I had a decent landlord once, dude worked his way up in construction to own his own company, charged a fair rent, and whenever anything broke it was fixed within a week. Me and my friends used that place as a party house and completely fucked it, I still feel kind of bad, I don't think he'll ever rent to anyone under 30 ever again

All the other landlords I've had though were scummy slimy jews

>>17921895
>>17921894
>>17921923
>they fix your shit when it breaks

:)

>>17922198
You deserve the Jews for taking advantage of a salt of the Earth man.

>>17921821

I've said all this various times before but it all bears repeating so let's examine you for a moment. You're the sort of person who comes here all the time railing about how "If x doesn't do y, people will stomp their heads in! Bunch of parasites!" Well, you're obviously angry enough to do something like that. Why don't you? It's because you have low agency.

The very reason you occupy the political space that you do is precisely *because* you're not someone who can engage in behavior that requires forethought, discipline or sacrifice. You're not a person who does things. You sit and wait for others to do them. Or you angrily demand they do them.

You think you chose your political ideology. Actually, it chose you.

So sit and make your threats about what you're going to do when the revolution comes. It might. But you'll still do nothing. You'll never be physically or mentally healthy. You'll never have good relationships with your family members. You'll never have loyal friends who wouldn't yank you back down the moment you secured a hand or foot on a single rung above them. You'll never find fulfilling employment or succeed in business, you'll never even try. You'll never have power or influence. You'll never see your dreams for this world realized.

Stop thinking that coordinating your visits here constitutes "operations". You've changed no minds and made no difference. Go take more drugs and watch more Netflix. Nobody cares.

>>17921821
Because fuck you.
You pay or get the fuck out
And if you don't you get the fucking mallet and go to jail you commie faggot. Don't sign a contract if you're not prepared to fill it.

Fuck you!

>>17922257
Based

>>17921821
What’s with all these anti landlord threads? Go back to bunker Chan faggots.

>>17921821
Because it's their property and people are paying the landlord to stay there you stupid retarded fuck. What's so complicated?

I'll make a security deposit on those titties.

>>17922023
Not fixing plumbing problems actually do more damage to the home then not fixing. Maybe you just forgot to tell your landlord about the issue.

>>17921821
You're a retard. Landlords have to keep the property together, if something breaks that's who you call. Furthermore you're renting because you cant afford a house. If you can't afford a house you shouldn't get one, period. Not having these landlords wouldn't magically make you be able to live there.

Fuck off commie. I'm sick of you cunts, have absolutely infested my generation.

>>17921821
They provide an asset that you pay for

Give your fuckin balls a tug

>>17922198
Or maybe your other landlords recognized you for the irresponsible manlet that you are.

>>17922198
>I am John's complete lack of perspective.

>>17921821
Rent fags take notice. Your landlord is not your mother. Check out the homeless shelters and gubment housing if you want other alternatives.

>Landlording is made illegal
>all landlords just sell their property to be made into office spaces, factories, strip malls etc
>Number of domiciles in the area drops immensely
>Demand for homes increases to the point where's there huge price increases for housing

Congrats faggot

>Even the "small" boomer landlords who did actually work will never have worked half as many hours to pay of the house as a millennial would have to do today to get the same house.
That is utter bullshit. Less time to save (because they're younger) is the only reason fewer millennials own rental real estate. Also do you have any idea how much work it is to be a "small" landlord? You better be good at fixing and renovating things yourself.
>Flat out wrong for most landlords, most of the houses being rented out were inherited, many of the biggest landlords never worked a day in their lives.
Sure, but how is that different inheriting other types of investments?

>>17921821
>what is rentseeking
stated by the one of the granddaddy papas of capitalism himself, Robert Smith.

>>17921821
Take your politics elsewhere.

>>17921821

>>17922526
fuck me I'm retarded, Adam Smith.

>>17921821
Seconded. Lanny-jannies need to die.

>>17922350
Lmao I certainly didnt forget, and a malfunctioning washer doesnt hurt the landlord at all. I've had to grind my teeth to even get in contact with landlords for them to fix shit that was in their agreement. They ducked emails or calls, and ONLY would fucking reply when you include the words "tenant board" in my messages.

Dealing with these cunts made me realize not all regulations are bad. The kikes will never dish out cash for repairs unless tenant unions put a gun to them.

>>17922423
If this is a Fight Club reference then it's Jack

We are. t landlord

If the society wanted to do something about it, they would make it easier to build new buildings to increase competition and drive down rents. Until then, I'm going to continue exploiting this system like the leech I am.

>>17922654
>he thinks its about competition and supply and demand
try loans

>>17922654
At least you're a transparent kike

adam smith hated landlords lmao

>>17921821
because you need to ask for money from the government in order to be considered a parasite

if you suck out the blood yourself, you're considered a valuable member of society

>>17922594
Then you put tenant board in every fuckin message including the Christmas Card. How hard is that?

>>17922733
back in his time, landlords where royalty who owned the only the land under your house, and you had to pay rent no matter what happened to the property - they literaly did nothing useful.
It's not like today where landlords own both the land AND the property, and have to mantain the property to attract tenants

Also rent is not the same thing as rent-seeking
rent is what you pay for using a property, there's nothing evil going on here
rent-seeking is when you bribe the government to prevent new construction so your own properties rise in value. In this case it's not landlords who are rent-seekers, but NIMBY homeowners

>>17922362
>Landlords have to keep the property together, if something breaks that's who you call.
>Implying most landlords actually take care of the shit they're supposed to

>>17921821
how is buying a house, maintaining it and renting it out less valuable than buying a stock and collecting a dividend

>>17921821
>Flat out wrong for most landlords, most of the houses being rented out were inherited, many of the biggest landlords never worked a day in their lives.
Well, that's not entirely true. Most landlords take out a loan to purchase a house then pay back the loan using rent money. But they're usually still making a killer profit, and taking out a loan isn't work.

>>17922594
Here’s a tip I learned irt your washer. Dump some water around it and take a picture to send to landlord. Say it is leaking constantly as well as not working. If your landlord is not a complete idiot the repair man will be there shortly.

>>17921821
Truth. Rent-seeking is cancer. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-canada-has-taken-a-perilous-road-to-an-asset-based-economy/

>>17921821
cope

>>17923003
amazing how quick they are to react when their precious property could be at stake

>>17922257
holy based op on suicide watch

>>17923040
That’s right, now you are getting it.

>>17922925
Last landlord I have bought me a new washer and dryer when it was putting holes in my shit within the week. And was always quick when something needed fixing. I've had pleasant experiences.

>>17921821
whos the bird?

>>17922198
>All the other landlords I've had though were scummy slimy jews
Yeah cause they realized you're trash.

>>17922257
Saved for future ownage next time I meet a lazy commie.

>>17922257

>>17922477
>None of the landlords would sell their houses to new homeowners
>consumer based businesses would buy land in an area where no consumers live
>People aren't going to pay outrageous prices for homes and will instead try to move some place cheaper, lowering demand

>>17922257
Jesus, someone post this on /leftypol/

>>17922783
>>17923003
I managed to force the fuck to hire a repairman after enough legal threats. That's not the point, it's that these individuals are human trash and theres no good or healthy relationship. Renting really makes you feel like a goy and your landlord just wants to extract the max amount out of you while ignoring and giving as little as possible back.
>>17923040
Yep. At times I felt like going full peepeepoopoo pill and taking fat shits in the elevator then posting the images to online renting boards

>ITT: jews defending jewry

>>17922477
>Landlord boomers forced to sell
>property supply explodes and by definition becomes a huge buyer's market

Failing to see the tradeoff here...

>>17922123
this.
fucking depressing realization when I talked to my boomer great uncle the other day. He worked warehouse jobs, post office, and supermarket manager jobs in the 60's-70's spending much more than I do a month and still could afford three separate rentals that he was able to retire off of in the 80's. I make almost triple what he did waging and rising rent and inflation is fucking me. We are fucked just because we were born in this era.

>>17921821
>Royals

>>17922893
you commies didn't respond to my post
most landlords would love to build more buildings and make more money, it's the NIMBY homeowners who prevent that and make rents go up
If you look at Japan where zoning laws are more relaxed and people don't mind apartment buildings going up near their houses, rents are pretty affordable there
I think I've seen once that vacancy rates in San Francisco are only1%, while in Tokyo it's like 20%. If you let competition work it's magic, rents will go down and landlords will not be seen as parasites anymore

>>17923275
Home ownership is over rated. Been there. You not only pay a mortgage but interest, insurance, maintenance, and property taxes. I would rather rent and invest my money elsewhere. Maybe you would feel less angry and less like a goy if you had a better financial or investment plan.

>>17922257

Beautiful. True. Can't be disputed pilled.

>>17923432
>feel less angry and less like a goy if you had a better financial or investment plan.
I'm doing alright for myself and now have my own property, but nice boomer tier post. As I said, my demands were only what was agreed to in contract. I won't take blame because you kikes dont maintain your domicile hardware, then try to wiggle out of your obligations like rats.

From your victim blaming, I can tell you're likely one of the kike landlords that tries to sneak out of obligations. Mercy on your soul

>>17923215
>None of the landlords would sell their houses to new homeowners

Sorry frogposter. We already know what happens when landlording becomes unprofitable. And it's exactly how I describe.

Why do commies have no understanding of history? It's baffling.

>>17922257
Literally where in the OP did he threaten violence though? Theres a lot of projection in this post. But most of it is illogical. Going snuff landlords now is retard tier, and will just result in lockups. I reckon most people are waiting for economic collapse before enacting a purge

>>17922123
I just got out of college, worked my whole time in school and saved. Bought a house when I graduated and rent rooms out to offset my expenses. You can do it if you don't blow your money on stupid shit

wtf why is no one talking about breeding this based landlady in the pic but instead about boring politics?

All landlords are scum

>>17923624
There are literally /leftypol/ retards in every thread threatening muh guillotines, moron. It's not much of a leap to assume OP is one of them.

>>17923681
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a commie and /lefypol/

Ah, the black/white false dichotomy worldview that exists in the mind of a true moron.

>>17923637
imagine cooming in her while she moans out all the ways she's destroying her tenant's lives

>>17923726
>I use /leftypol/ language but I'm not one of them, I swear!
yeah whatever nobody is buying it

>>17923557
Mean man won’t listen to me
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>17921821
Youre right that theyre parasites, but theres nothing you can do about it and it is what it is. If you dont want to pay rent, buy a pop up camper and sleep in parking lots and campgrounds. Been doing it for 4 years now and ive saved approximately 42k in rent, and am about to buy a nice ass house. 24 years old btw

>>17922257

based asf

>>17923753
What language? I replied to a post talking about violence when there was no threats in the OP. You're a fucking idiot

>>17921821
> most of the houses being rented out were inherited, many of the biggest landlords never worked a day in their lives

So I've been noticing this is the newest disgusting commie snowflake narrative. I'm going to give my money to whoever I want and you won't have a say about it.

And luckily I hope my son or daughter laugh at you fucking losers. Just look at you.

>>17923849
The language that /leftypol/ users use is really fucking obvious. You have it too. I can spot you from a mile away because you don't know how to hide it.

You wouldnt own a house if your landlord wasnt around to let you rent in one.

What does the modern commie grow or produce these days that is of any value to society?

>>17922257
Why does it hurt

>>17923942
Ok nigger. Politics is a binary between capitalism and communism in your mutt low IQ brain. Stay pleb

>>17924091
>maybe if I use the word "nigger", "mutt", "pleb" and "low IQ", I can hide that I'm from /leftypol/
you're really overselling it now.

>>17923849
He is telling the truth. You can spot because you guys are just repeating the same narrative word from word. Its almost like you were programmed.

>>17921821
This is /biz/. Our entire life goal is to become a parasite

>>17924163
Mutt, kike bootlicker, Amerigoblin, untermenschen, faggot, cuck, Amerishart, soicuck
>left vs right
Man you really are a low IQ dichotomy fag

>>17924043
no one says they have a claim to your property we're just calling you a hoarding oink. you're a step above a scalper. you're not clever. keep living in fear of public developments and neck yourself when you become redundant.

>>17923736
based
>>17922257
kind of based but honestly you would be better off writing a long paragraph about cooming

>>17924218
Meanwhile you're using the most predictable language imaginable. Only complete retards think in absolutes

>>17922257
OP is probably physically removing himself from life right now.

>>17922265
Well said. I cant stand commies who want everything fed to them and think people who have more dont deserve it. Fuck off OP

>>17924368
Check out the local homeless shelters and housing projects. If you like what you see apply, if not then move on.

>>17924601
Kek is trump a commie?

>>17921821
someone somewhere the genealogical tree invested in property instead of blowing it on booze and hookers. This is their reward, their offspring never have to work their ass off like they did, aka progress

>>17923624
>I reckon most people are waiting for economic collapse before enacting a purge

This is exactly what I was talking about. This is a grandiose fantasy. Christ almighty, you people can't even function in times of abundance, what makes you think you're going to be running the show if/when economic and social order breaks down?

There's a common saying in self-defense training of different sorts: Never assume you will rise to the occasion. You will fail to the level of your training on your worst day.

That's a really low floor for you.

I was a landlord once and it sucked.

>DeVries said the worst part was that she bought the property with the goal of eventually moving her grandparents, who now live in the politically and economically embattled Venezuela, to P.E.I.
>Her grandparents had visited P.E.I. for several months last year and had left behind many of their belongings for the eventual move.
>DeVries said those items were taken by the tenant and she knows her grandparents will likely never see them again.
>“That’s why it’s even more sad for me… (When I told my grandmother) she said, ‘wow, so it’s not only Venezuela where I’ll get my stuff stolen’.”

>>17922942
People always need places to live vs the market isn't always doing good

On the other hand, every once in a while there's an expensive repair needed

>>17924803
I never said I'm doing shit in SHTF. I'm eyeballs deep in water, food, and ammo, and just holding down my fort.

I'm pointing out how retarded your power fantasy of random hordes of commies storming landowners are. In SHTF all these newly unemployed tenants won't magically generate wealth to pay rent. You have it backwards, landlords will be more aggressive to their tenants than the inverse.

>>17921821
buy your own house then crybaby

>>17921821
ah poor baby. Somebody gamble their rent money away and have no where to go?

>>17921821
>Born too early to explore the stars
>Born too late to explore the earth
>Born just in time to execute the landlords

fucking based

Every landlord I've had is shit.

>I had one who I informed of a broken outer window several times, including email.
>Never fixed.
>Move out.
>$550 bill for a pane of glass. Tells me I can go to court if I want.
>Brother is attorney.
>About to get trippled damages
>This slumlord and his lawyer walk in smug as fuck, first name basis with the judge whose campaign they probably donate to.
>Have overwhelming evidence
>Trip damages and interest here we come
>Judge blatantly ignores law, tells me I have to accept the $550 only months late, then tells at me for citing the law and tells me it's take it or leave it.

We need to execute the Boomer politicians too. I'm on Corona'd side.

>>17922257
based and thesispilled unironically BTFO

>>17921821
As opposed to what? Making it illegal for me to choose what I do with my property?

>>17924868
>>DeVries said the worst part was that she bought the property with the goal of eventually moving her grandparents, who now live in the politically and economically embattled Venezuela, to P.E.I.
>>Her grandparents had visited P.E.I. for several months last year and had left behind many of their belongings for the eventual move.
>>DeVries said those items were taken by the tenant and she knows her grandparents will likely never see them again.
>>“That’s why it’s even more sad for me… (When I told my grandmother) she said, ‘wow, so it’s not only Venezuela where I’ll get my stuff stolen’.”

Good fuck that bitch and her family. Property in PEI should be for people from PEI not some invader from South America with a jew sob story. PEI is politically and economically 'embattled'. Give us free shit in Venezuela and then we will talk.

>>17925375
Yeah they're the biggest sacks of shit in society by a wide margin
>Rooming with thot
>have pretty cool arrangement with going 50/50 on appliances and furniture
>get in fight, shit goes nuclear
>Steals the most valuable shit, then rips mural off the wall while I'm not there, totally fucks up the wall and floor bigtime, she was too week to catch it after she pulled it off
>Turns out she was fucking the landlord
>He SIMPs out and blames me for the damages, threatens legal action if I don't repair the wall

This was 8 months ago and I've since moved out and haven't heard of anything. I think the faggot knows I have a video of her REEEEing and tossing stuff around violently. Your story freaks me out though, because of the JEWdicial system I'll probably get rekt in court due to corrupt lawyers and utterly rotten judges. Not sure what to do and have just been sitting on it

>>17924985
>I'm pointing out how retarded your power fantasy of random hordes of commies storming landowners are.

Not sure if you can read but my posts have been saying precisely this about others. You're literally criticizing me for the exact opposite of what I'm actually doing.

>>17922257
screen capped, thank you anon

>>17924868

>I thought I'd move my grandparents to another country so they could receive medical care for which they've never paid a single cent

No thanks.

>>17924533
so to speak

>>17921923
OK boomer.

>>17921821
Fucking buy the house instead of renting then retard

>>17925832
>This was 8 months ago and I've since moved out and haven't heard of anything. I think the faggot knows I have a video of her REEEEing and tossing stuff around violently. Your story freaks me out though, because of the JEWdicial system I'll probably get rekt in court due to corrupt lawyers and utterly rotten judges. Not sure what to do and have just been sitting on it

You should make a police report. That way if they try something you have a bigger paper trail. However, check that video so there is nothing they could use against you. The court wants to take a female's side against a man. Its the matriarchy, anon. The courts are sexist against you.

>>17921821

you are only considered parasite if it's through government and not the freemarket

if you make money through interest, rent, capital gains, no one calls you a parasite even though you basically made money by sitting on your ass

>>17923392
>expecting retards to think of objections to an actual argument
just call them names, they'll respond to that

>>17925912
>>I thought I'd move my grandparents to another country so they could receive medical care for which they've never paid a single cent
>No thanks

Agreed. Fuck that foreigner. I am glad someone vandalized and stole her family's stuff. She was trying to steal Canadian taxpayers money after all.

>>17922893
I agree with you, but will point out that japanese people ard ok with apartments going up nextdoor because there is an extremely high chance they will be filled with regular japanese people, rather than foreigner scum and other low IQ populations that create squalor wherever they reside.

>>17921821
I totally agree, there are LOTS of scumbag landlords.
However, instead of complaining about landlords why not complain about generational tenants in rent-controlled Leftist cities such as NYC who pass their apartments down from one generation to another and the result is that in 2020 some of these descendants of the original tenants are paying way, way, way lower rent prices than others?

>>17925993
It's funny you mention the matriarchy, it's the exact reason I haven't gone to the cops yet. I'm worried they'll spin it that she was spazzing because I was somehow a threat to her, or that I didn't ask her consent to record or some other bullshit spin.

I have a horror story of my buddy who called the cops when a girl he was seeing started attack him, then the cops showed up and FUCKING ARRESTED HIM. It seems like virtually every legal route is a lose-lose. Honestly I think I'll just drop $100 for a consultation with an attorney to have a defense plan if this land-kike pushes charges

I am an aspiring parasite.i hate work

>>17926162
>$100 for a consultation with an attorney to have a defense plan if this land-kike pushes charges

There are plenty of free lawyers working pro bono and government services. Just pretend you barely speaking english and they will be happy to help you.

Holy shit can the commie redditors please go. Imagine whining about a legitimate investment on /biz/.

>>17926085
>Leftist cities such as NYC who pass their apartments down from one generation to another and the result is that in 2020 some of these descendants of the original tenants are paying way, way, way lower rent prices than others?
Rent control is an emotional response to human difficulty. We want all people to have access to safe and affordable housing in any reasonable society so rent control always gets voted in.

This emotional vote is the same one that prevents a land value tax from ever happening (because what if poor grandma isn't able to afford her taxes?) So basically you are locked into a shitty situations where landlords who don't do anything to contribute to society get money from it with very little risk (not talking about multi-tenant buildings, I mean buying a single family home or a condo and just renting it out)

At least on the stock market, people take on real risk. And the money they invest directly goes into hiring more people, doing R&D, etc and generally improving goods and services produced. Landlords get all the benefits of proximal businesses and resources a lot of which everyone pays for through taxes but they have done nothing but siphon off the people who make all that happen.

>landlords are parasite
that is like the tick calling the bullock a parasite.

>>17921821
Nobody is forcing you to rent dipshit

>>17926379
Well said

>>17922230
This. Also, while the last 50 or so years were pretty comfy for landlords it is unlikely to continue.
Picture related.
I predict most people will struggle to make more than just nominal profit on real estate for the next decade or so. Prices may go up, but wages and inflation will go up way quicker.

>>17926597
uh, having been born into a concrete jungle in a place where you die in the winter if you try to live outside, I beg to differ
requiring a place to live was literally forced on me by society

>>17926707

Then buy a place, move south, live with mommy and daddy or apply for section 8 you niglet

purchasing a property to rent out to someone else is literally rent-seeking, an anti-productive enterprise that diminishes economic output over the long term. It only exists to transfer wealth from one person to another without providing any corresponding output. It crowds out people who may otherwise have been able to afford that property to live in.

>>17926837

False. You make a time and money investment into that property regardless. Your compensation is thanks to taking on the risk of owning a depreciating property in a neighborhood that may go south at any moment.

>>17926707
Ooh you're a Califag
Lmao nevermind I'm glad you're suffering but hey at least the weather is nice right? :)

>>17926881

The transfer of rent from your tenant to yourself does not produce anything, it is purely a wealth transfer and that has no corresponding output. It is rent-seeking. It is basically the same thing as welfare.

>>17922257

>>17926997

They pay that for the ability to get a place to live without assuming the cost, permanence, and risk of living there. This is seriously not hard to understand. It’s a service like any other and the profit margin is determined by the market. If you hate that lobby to your government to ease up on odious zoning laws. I don’t understand how you can come onto this board with a straight face and say something is bad because someone is making a profit off of it.

THAT IS BUSINESS.

>>17922257
based

>>17922265
"Gibs me dat money."
How you became so entitled is sad. Pic related. Become an upstanding citizen or pay the price. You are probably so angry because you know it is true. Weak men can't handle truth.

>>17927057

Is this whole post irony? You can’t even impose the “duty” on yourself of paying for your own fucking housing. Jim Bob from the gas station can handle his monthly rent and utilities. I’m so beyond caring about that it’s 10% of my budget and yet here you are making it your crusade you pathetic fag.

>>17922594
Whenever contract is broken and they dodge, talk about legal action immediately. If they call your bluff, sue them. These types count on you not attacking back and they prey on their own tenants. Suckling the teet that provides them income all the while destroying it to their own demise. They lack sense and honor, give them none in return, and bleed them dry. The money does not belong in the hands of evil men.

>>17927043

A lease is not a service, it is a property right

>>17922654
At least you're honest and that's respectable.

>>17923290
This. Haha.

>>17923361
I don't think many older individuals understand "economic barriers of entry". They seem to like to gaslight the younger ones too. Evil.
Being bitter doesn't solve it either. It's poison to you.

>>17927057
It’s your duty to pay your rent or get the fuck out. How hard is that to understand? Do you fucktards not understand how contracts work?

>oh no I violated the agreement I signed with you but you can’t place consequences upon me it’s immoral REEEEEEEE

>>17923040
Because serious water damage can cost a shitload and is more important to fix than some idiot tenant who broke the washer.

>>17923815
Based. Might do this myself now that I bought guns. Cheers m8.

>>17927167

Wow that’s fucking news to me. So tenants pay for the maintenance and upkeep on their properties now and handle the contracting duties? They pay the property taxes and the accountant who handles and files them?

>>17927167
>You are guaranteed the right to live somewhere

Literally not a single fucking animal on this planet practices this bullshit. Everything, including us, needs to work to live. You don’t get to sit on your ass and be a dumb fucking nigger all day. Grow up

>>17925832
was she hot or no. if not it makes the land lord even more pathetic.

>>17922080
based

>>17926881
Money transferrence isn't production. It's not a net positive in terms of economic/societal growth/advancement. Their positive output (assuming it is positive), is given to you, which creates no actual forwards momentum in a micro and macro economical view. This is why when a country has less actual output and/or less efficient use of the output, the economy/society slows and plateaus or retracts, so it's a net negative. The following are currently net negatives on society.
Government
Bankers
Taxes (misused and misallocated)
Welfare
Overabundance of service industries
Landlords that contribute nothing, only consume or boost profits for themselves/business
And so on.
These people require actual producers to exist. Outside of that they would have no place. You should thank your tenants. It would do your heart well.

>>17927351

Right, so your solution is to outlaw landlording, a service currently desired by 50% of the population. That’s called a centrally planned economy faggot. Or is “owning property” the next thing you’re going to complain about? We’re almost to your final form where you pull out a copy of Das Kapital.

>>17927113
See my later posts. You can point the finger at me all you want, but what does it profit you? Doesn't it just support the self righteous ideology you have of yourself? Am I wrong? What is to be gained by yielding to what I have said? Do you know or understand my current goals or directions? Do you seek to help or is this just some projection of your seeming lack of virtue? Society works well when it's occupants are trusting, and mutually beneficial. An earlier post of mine goes into why landlords that use money just to live are a net negative. I won't call you pathetic because that won't help you or anyone else. But I will say, look into truth, if you have the balls.

>Landlords provide a service
>Renters pay for that service
>If you don't like it, buy your own house

Logical arguments. However, they are only logical in the illogical clown world in which we live. Realistically, a drywall box and a roof doesn't cost THAT much to build, and everyone should be able to afford the down payment on a mortgage and pay it off pretty quickly on an average salary.

Thats in a healthy society designed for human life, which the USA is not.
The USA is a globalist trading bazaar, an economic platform where people come to get rich. If you're an average person stuck living there, you are fucked three ways from Sunday.

Its going the same way in the rest of the West. The problem is our governments won't stop importing parasites to grow the GDP, so our only defense is to rally against any form of socialism, in an attempt to keep our stuff out of the hands of those people.

In the end you have relatively average people, who would benefit greatly from more socialist policies, completely rejecting it because they know their country is 50% shitstain parasites from the dark corners of the world.

In short, kill the leaders, remove shitskin, lock down the borders. Trade only. Humans trying to get through are shot on sight. Thats the real solution, which will never happen.

>>17927187
It is not my duty to pay rent. It is my duty to be a net positive to society. To leave a legacy. Not just "haha muh renters income". You contributed nothing, and created a vacuum economically speaking. Learn economics anf if you can grasp it, it would do you better to understand.
Or love your "rental income" and be a sellout. Trading honor and character/integrity for something that leaves you nothing. Your eternity dies in selfishness.

>>17927443

I don’t take philosophy lessons from bitter runts who give special attention to just another form of profit seeking, business motivated behavior. I would by no means pretend the landlord is doing the same thing as a miner or a builder but at the same time their job is desired by many and has tangential benefits to the greater economy. The only time it’s nefarious is when government cronyism and over regulation are involved and that is a state problem.

>>17926018

No, I don't agree with that. Just don't take from a society resources that you never helped build up.

Now, go back to leftypol, you're not fooling anyone.

>>17922257
OH NO NO NO

>>17927419
My solution would be to have a society that is mutually beneficial, in creating forward advancements. We could work 30 hours a week and colonize mars if it wasn't for leeches and mishandling of precious labor value.
Renting is not desired, it is pushed upon. You made my point about certain landlords not understanding economic barriers of entry true. You proved my point. Why is this worth mentioning? Because you can learn too.
Realistically, renting would only probably be around 15-25% maximally if so many individuals weren't priced out of home/property buying. Don't keep lying to yourself at least man. If you do it means you hate yourself.

this is a /leftypol/ raid you faggots

>>17921821
I'm not a commie, but one of the few things I agree with them on is that all landlords are scum. You have to have "skin in the game".

>>17927522
You should have just said "I am too proud and too arrogant to admit what you are saying is true, the truth scares me because it means I have to change my lifestyle. I've become accustomed and in fact love being one of the losers of society. I love exploiting others, and I hate myself so much, I will continually lie to myself that what I'm doing is good. I almost am entirely devoid of any virtue or value in character due to my consistent lies that I feed myself." I could go on and on man but you have a lot more potential. Repent that you might be saved. You can do and be a lot better man. I believe in you.

>>17927589

Why are you trying so hard to hide the fact that you’re a communist? Lmao

Society is based off of competition. Our achievements are rooted in competition. Nobody innately wants to “cooperate” with anyone but their family and friends because humans are naturally greedy fucks. You’re dressing up your own greed and resentment as some kind of higher virtue right now but you’re just coming off as naive at best. Collectivism was tried and it has failed every time because it’s unnatural. If you want that there are cheap tickets to Venezuela and Cuba.

>>17927684
A society thrives in unity, not disunity. You only understand your worldliness because you bought the lie. It works but at what cost. The difference is a united society can have people living over a hundred years, working less than 30 hours a week, creating and cultivating some of the most beautiful and peaceful societies the imagination can fathom, and so much more.

I'm no communist. In fact I think communism is problematic. I'm purist. And I believe we should uphold truth above all else. Even if it means above ourselves. Only then can we become better individuals.

>>17926997
>The transfer of rent from your tenant to yourself does not produce anything, it is purely a wealth transfer and that has no corresponding output.

Utterly brain dead. That's like saying buying food is a wealth transfer with no benefit because the only thing it produces is poo. You need a place to live just like you need food to eat.

You have to go back (to leftypol).

YFW my father is a landlord

he owns 2 apt complexes

lmfao... poor mayos are mad asf cause my daddy owns their life

This thread is hilarious. OP asks an honest question and all the rightoids freak with pure paranoia and projection like they do normally. They're so fearful the thread devolves into witchhuntism. Never change /pol/ never change.

>>17927823
It's proven quantitatively. Don't believe me, model it yourself. If that is too hard perhaps this discussion is not for you to engage in but only to observe and question. Humility brings about great reward.

>>17927838

Does money help you cope with your race's complete lack of achievement, and extreme physical ugliness?
Your ridicule of white people is poorly disguised primal envy, as always.

>>17927589
>We could work 30 hours a week and colonize mars if it wasn't for leeches and mishandling of precious labor value

Ah, I understand the problem now. You're ignorant.

The reason we haven't even gone to Mars yet is that humans cannot survive such a lengthy trip under constant bombardment from cosmic radiation. It takes 2 meters of water to block 50% of the average amount of cosmic radiation in space.

And don't give me any bullshit about how we would have "come up with a solution" if only we had a bit more money. If it's so easy to come up with one, post it.

>>17921821
they are rent seekers not parasites. it's a distinction without a difference

>>17927871
>It's proven quantitatively. Don't believe me, model it yourself.

Nice proof you posted. And you didn't address the logical inconsistency of yours that I raised.

>If that is too hard perhaps this discussion is not for you to engage in but only to observe and question. Humility brings about great reward.

You're the guy I just ravaged. See >>17928078

>>17928078
Perhaps you are right in that particular case. But the fact that you focused in on one issue and assumed it covers all other issues means that you are in fact projecting. You should know full well things could be a lot better. If you don't then I feel sorry for you. Really.

Self righteousness seems to really blind and be a detriment. Try letting go of it. It's enslaving and you can really be a lot lighter and wiser for it. I encourage you to.

>>17921821
>They hardly do any work themselves and yet they extract wealth from those who actually spend 40 hours a week contributing to society.
How do you know this?

>>17922080
His ideas never worked just like that guy.

>>17928179

You are everything you’re talking about. Self righteous, lacking in duty, lazy, etc, it’s all you, if you reread all of your posts it’s all projection. You’re incapable of handling this capitalist society and now you’ve created this big cope world where everybody else is the miserly incompetent and you’re the hero. Laughable and cringeworthy, but typical of socialists who tend to be failures turned arrogant ideologues. Their new meme philosophy becomes their whole identity because there’s nothing else for the ego.

>>17928179
This fucking commie throwing big words left and right thinking it makes his shit ideology any more valid. Why don't you go join your tranny friends on /leftypol/ and then kill yourself, you waste of oxygen?

>>17921821
desu i could tolerate the insanity of landlordism if our housing market wasn't fucked.
banks will give you a loan to buy a house for cheaper than a loan to build a house because that way they eat less risk. in the good old days, the government would step in and force banks to lend money for building houses or outright step in and build houses itself - so the price would fall and everyone would be happy. now the government just sits back and watches as house prices go to the moon while wages slide along the ground like a worm.

land value tax, rent control, direct lending interference, massive state housebuilding, fuck it: throw everything at this problem, everything at all. no potential mistake or risk of such a policy is worth the costs that continuing down our current path will impose.

>>17928278
>>17928296
"Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults; whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse."

Be it on you then. May God have mercy on your souls.

>>17926085
desu everyone should be paying those rates.
in current circumstances if every generational tenant was kicked out (and their position is undeservedly fortunate) it wouldn't put a dent in rental costs in those cities. once everything else is put in place to get the prices down, end generational tenancies.

>>17922257
Based.
>>17927443
>You can point the finger at me all you want, but what does it profit you?
We're sick of commie niggers.

>>17922257
hello, BASED DEPARTMENT?

>>17922461
Or buy an acre of land an a trailer.

>>17922519
>You better be good at fixing
Before the internet my uncle used to walk to the library to get books on stuff.

>>17922244
this

>>17921821
holy fucking shit if i hear about landlords one more fucking time i'm gonna lose it
yes landlords are, in general, scummy little kikes
no they don't contribute anything but then neither do most other jobs
no they don't have any real power as a class
they basically just broker usage of a big immobile asset because you've gotta either buy/rent land from somewhere or have it be centrally managed which is annoying
they don't control policy, they don't import the niggers, they are not a meaningful voice in politics, the only reason anybody cares about them is because they read a book written over a hundred years ago back when they still formed an economic class and leftists blindly apply that to today with zero thought whatsoever
i'm not a fan of capitalism (mostly because of the niggers) but if you want more sympathy, maybe you should talk about issues that actually matter to people here, like how capitalists literally import all the shitskins we bitch about endlessly

>>17927329
7/10. But she was a whore and seeing other guys at the time. The fag landlord just wanted to lock down the completely mediocre pussy, and of course a woman always smells a weak man to exploit

I don't get this line of thinking. If you don't want landlords then you get your own land. Do people just think they're entitled to live somewhere for free?

>>17928691
Pay attention to the arguments though. Even the most mundane and shitty of jobs can be argued to provide some form of value to an individual. Renting is pure cancer because it's a vacuum of value. Without renting, buying/selling property would be at beautiful levels of market participation, and we wouldn't have a retarded shortage of housing.

If you're based NatSoc it's important to talk about landlords because they're the faggots driving immigration into the west. Understand that they're the main beneficiaries of labour surplus, as it gets rid off their risk

>>17921821
don't worry m8, you'll see lots of cheap houses being sold soon...

>>17927120
Based. I've learned this lesson the hard way. Zero emotion when dealing with this immoral fucks

>>17922257
basado y rojopilled

>>17927205
Do it anon. People will make fun of you at first, then when they know how much money youre stacking because of it they all become jealous.

> I worked overtime and invested half my income so I could retire early. You can do the same
i dont want sex much at 34 years of age. I wished i spent my savings on hookers back when i was younger and in need...

>>17922257
So many newfags replaying to this pasta. This place is lost.

>>17923139
Lucky you.

>>17921821
Whay are tenants not considered parasites to society?

They don't do any work themselves and ask propoerty holders to do all the work on top of their jobs.

>hurr durr they can't afford a house
Flat out wrong for most tenants, most of the people wouldn't spend more on mortgage tha on rent, many long term tenants never put money aside a day in their life.
Even the "young" zoomer landlords who actually are at a historical low on interest could afford a loan if they went without frappucino and avocado toast for a year.

t. afetr highschool got $200 per month from my parents. worked through uni on that, then nothing worked for 3 years to put aside and pay for an MBA; which got me a job with a better pay. At 27 I was living on 300 a month studying an working, at 32 I have two appartments, rent the first to cover both mortgages, live rent free in the second.

Every generation has its own ups and downs. I entered the job market in 2009, worked in hospitality after a bachelors because there was nothing else. turns out speaking 4 languges is useful in that field so I leveraged a shitty job in wexperience working abroad, and was accepted in the 2 year instead of 3 MBA programm due to it. I bought these appartments last year, avoding inflated price by taking my time and profiting from low interest. You're making excuses and bitching instead of working with what you have.

>>17924368
Your shits been tried commie, nothing new under the sun and after all this time your shit stinks worse. Try growing up and actually succeeding in life instead of whining behind a keyboard.
>muh its harder because boomer ruined it
what the boomers ruined in the economy is currently being un done. This crash is a great cleanse for the economy allowing your average joe to be able to invest. That is, if he wasn't such a mouth breathing commie faggot. Instead the average joe bitches on a cambodian basket weaving sight about whos more clever or not.

>>17922257
Are you the CEO of based?