/biz/ - Business & Finance

Trump is speaking at 5PM eastern time today, where's the best website or whatever to see the speech in real time?

How red will we open?

who here buying live nation puts at open?

And lest I forget
>>17815790
>How red will we open?
bout this much

Actual thread
Actual thread

>>17815753
>>17815753
>>17815753
>>17815753
>>17815753
>>17815753

>>17815803
Wrong

>>17815787
Normally the white house website is pretty good.

>>17815807
nice, thanks

>>17815801
What is this? Futures aren't open yet?

The world haven't really felt the consequences of the new flight bands yet.

I think there will be more dips in the market next week.

post /smg/ movies while we wait for monday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ycYGuI8SkU

>>17815799
live nation puts?

>>17815821
Did y'all watch a movie last night? The fag was late on the stream

>>17815818
It's a site that does CFD betting on the dow over the weekend and it's usually a decent indicator of how news is affecting the markets and how we might open
https://www.ig.com/en/indices/markets-indices/weekend-wall-street

>In 2002, following coverage of concerns about deflation in the business news, Bernanke gave a speech about the topic.[64] In that speech, he mentioned that the government in a fiat money system owns the physical means of creating money and to maintain market liquidity. Control of the money supply implies that the government can always avoid deflation by simply issuing more money. He said "The U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or today, its electronic equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at no cost."[64]

money printer is real

>>17815843
Nice, I didn't know that was a thing, saved. I fucking hate that the market closes at all desu hah

Is it really an imitation of 1987 and not 1929?

>>17815850
It blows my mind that the fed is able to just print 1.5 T out of thin air over the course of 2 weeks. Do the fucks have any long term thinking individuals there at all?

>>17815806
This guy is wrong

>>17815842
Also, I watched Margin Call and it was terrible. Maybe they dumbed it down for normies but they went into no detail whatsoever of the crisis. I can't imagine a normal person watching that not knowing the background and having any idea what was going on

Is there any more stimulus being thrown in other than the 1.5T repo?

>>17815842
nah mate, i've been gone all weekend, i just watched Margin Call this morning

>>17815879
>>17815877
My Nibba

>>17815877
>Maybe they dumbed it down for normies but they went into no detail whatsoever of the crisis
would you rather The big short level of dumbing down?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anSPG0TPf84

>>17815879
There are lots of tax breaks and other incentives being provided to businesses. Not sure if you count that.

>>17815877
Yeah it was basically a drama with business trappings. Like space operas that are really cowboys and indians but in space. The tech and space stuff is just window dressing

>>17815894
lmfao holy shit that is cringe.

>>17815787
They are so desperate they're doing pre-emptive pumping

>>17815899
>*dramatically takes earbuds out and stands up*
>"John,look at this chart"
>*squints eyes at screen for 2 seconds*
>Omg, the math checks out, we are in deep shit.

>>17815912
How has the market not taken this as obvious panic on the administrations part. I know that I am bear af right now and trying to not be as biased as possible but come the fuck on. They are throwing everything at the market and we have an actual crash (spoiler, we are) we are going to be absolutely fucked.

>>17815938
Yup this shit is so obvious lmao

>>17815912
What if it's bad news tho?

>>17815899
The Mandalorian had some plots straight out of classic cowboy movies/stories and i loved that shit.

>>17815787

>trumpf working all weekend

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SELL SELL SELL

>>17815938
Yep, I think it might even be worse for the market since it’s so transparent lol. I wish they would just let it dump back to a reasonable level already so we can go back to making money.

>>17815958
I don't watch cowboy movies/shows enough to recognize it, what episodes/scenes are you talking about?

Nike shutting all US stores for 2 weeks lad, incredibly based week ahead for bears.

Potentially tens of thousands of americans can lose their lives and all this faggot is trying to do is pump up the stock market.

>>17815984
The entire series was basically sci-fi Yojimbo or literally any the big Westerns of the past 70 years lol.

>>17815991
based on what?

How long until the big red arrow going down?
In hours

>>17815951
It would never be presented as such. "We are taking firm steps against the foreign virus menace, very bigly, much biglier than other presidents, Wal-Mart will save you. I will never get the virus, I had a report saying I was virus free hours after taking the test despite earlier saying it would take days"

>>17815991
Hopefully.

>>17815923
kek

>>17815983
Not even just that but they already used all of their tools to help in a recession... I have never seen such blatant can kicking and I voted for Trump twice (primary and election). I will vote for him again between him and a Democrat but this is terrible.

>>17815998

Based on what? Major retailers all throughout the US and europe are shutting down, europe is closing down almost all of its non essential stores as well. What more do you want.

>>17815984
The backwater village he protects from the evil bandidos with the help of a tough merc hiding in the middle of nowhere, the dead guy tied to his horse as sniper bait, the Republic prisoner transport job. Those come to mind, but there are probably more.

>>17816004
You can see it in futures at 6 on est.

https://youtu.be/miA8Td4oNcY?t=49
Preview of opening hours on monday

Everyone is expecting that Monday will be red. However, we have a Trump speech today at 5pm today and another $500 billion repo injection tomorrow. Act accordingly.

>>17816040
I recognized the music as cowboyesque and some of the art but didn't watch enough real cowboy movies to recognize it right off, makes sense though.

newfag here, I got GameStop as a free stock when I joined Robin good and obviously it's not profitable in the long run but It seems to be going up in the corona panic and to have handled the bear markets better than others, will it likely continue like this or should I sell it off Monday?

>>17816055
>However, we have a Trump speech today at 5pm today
-7% dow loss within the first hour
>and another $500 billion repo injection tomorrow
dead cat bounce at lunch time

>>17816055
Let me guess, he will be 30 minutes late to his speech and then he'll announce some bigly good news?

>>17816055
Monday will be red, it may open green due to the fed's market tampering asses but EOD we are red af.

>>17816066
Reggie being CEO only pumped it a week, look at Activision/blizzard if you wanna invest in vidya stocks

>>17816005
>very bigly, much biglier than other presidents

The stock market is like a spring. You can artificially move it in one direction but it will eventually pull back in the opposite direction that it was drawn with equal force. All these attempts to artificially prop it up make the falls that much more precipitous.

>>17814029
Valuable point. I've been worrying about these compounding effects for a while. My main gig is landlording and since about 20 years ago every single contract has been indexed with an inflation-based escalation clause. And that's not just me - everyone does that in my country now.

But if you want it to be accurate you would have to choose a rent-based inflation index to track. Which means you base your rent increase on the index going up and your rent increase boosts the index in turn. It's like an infinite upwards spiral. Even if you choose a general inflation index, a hefty part will always come from cost of housing.

And then you have people ask why rent is going up so much all the time. The honest answer: Because rent went up last year. That's literally the main contributing factor. It's a feedback loop. Shit's fucked.

Indexing your rent was a good idea for the people who started doing it. Now that everyone does it it's actually terrible and harmful on a macro level.

>>17816087
Do you think they know and are trying to cusion the fall or do you think they can actually salvage the situation?

>>17815787
>he's speaking AGAIN
God damn dude just shut up before you tank the market again

>Trump calls for a national day of prayer a day before the bloodiest 3 circuit breaker monday
Feels like christmas desu

Also, here's the repo schedule:
https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/domestic-market-operations/monetary-policy-implementation/repo-reverse-repo-agreements/repurchase-agreement-operational-details

There a TRILLIONS more in repo injections over the next few weeks.

>>17816126
pls cough
>pls cough
pls cough
>pls cough
pls cough
>pls cough
pls cough

>>17815938
The fed letting banks fail in 08 caused the recession to be way longer than it otherwise would have been. You are retarded if you think the govt would make the same mistake again

The banks will be kept solvent at all costs, even of it means inflation.

>>17816084
so I should sell as soon as possible? I didn't want to get into Vidya stocks I just need to deal with this one.

>>17816155
Well maybe so. Do you think brokers like Vanguard will survive? I have all my cash there rn waiting for bottom.

Friendly reminder the global recession is currently underway.

>>17816148
The market is Kai Greene taking HGH injections...until heart failure happens

>>17816066
Vidya stocks are basically meme sticks

If youve played vidya then you should know what i mean, the last few years are ripe with micro transactions which would theoretically increase profits but gaymers are some of the few consumers that will straight up not buy products

Would only swing/day trade vidya stocks never hold, due to the fact that games arent guaranteed revenue and for the stocks to grow they must be constantly reaching new audiences while retaining the same amount of players, which again if youve played vidya, youll know is basically impossible because casualizing a game for a broader market will kill off the older base

>>17816185

What an autistically /fit/ thing to say

>>17816148
What the fuck - how can they brrrrrr this many trillions of dollars and NOT fuck with inflation?

>>17816212
As soon as inflation starts happening Trump will simply ban inflation

>>17816212
look at the maturities. they're only creating short-term liquidity.

My CFD broker closed one of my positions at a loss during the trading halt on Thursday. Fuckers wont give me my money back.

Is there any better place to listen to news 24/7 than the related pic?

The next few months/year will truly prove if there is a Jewish cabal running the world
If everything ends up fine Cabal 100%
If a lot of people die and this is taken care of poorly, no Cabal

>>17816117
dios mio, man

>>17816117
Bullish

>30 mins til market open

>>17816309
It's sunday, anon.

>>17816247
How about reading?

SPIDR.today

>>17815787
and when does your shitty markets open?

>>17816321
weekends were a mistake

>>17815803
>>17815803
Nah

>>17816096
>when someone like BlackRock is the majority owner of both say ford and GM, where is the sense for ford and GM to compete anymore?
This is a fair question in general, but for the car market specifically, there are probably too many competitors for the game to be profitable any more. Except for the luxury segments, the market might be a lot healthier on the supply side if we only had, like, one or two brands each from the US, Europe, Japan, and Korea. Even that would still mean, like, a half dozen different companies trying to be profitable making the same damn crossover and hatchback.

HOLY SHIT THEY ARE ALREADY RED
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>17816324
I have a home office wageslave job, so can only be listening. But I'm bookmarking your sweet gem. Thank you sir.

>>17816155
>The fed letting banks fail in 08 caused the recession
>any major bank went out of business in 08

>>17816345
Source?

>>17816332
How do you forget what day it is? Are you NEET?

should i go full yolo and buy air companies stocks?

>>17816358
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehman_Brothers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Stearns

>>17816304
BULLS

>>17816371
Definitely not Boeing.

>>17816148
>~$7T
Holy fucking shit. The M2 monetary supply was at $14.5 trillion in January 2019. How much of that repo goes directly into M2 through bad loans and credit at a time when you have slowed down production and shut down services? This is insane.

is he right?

>>17815821
The way stock markets used to work were something special, these days not so much.

>>17816371

what are you thinking literally, flights into most countries are banned, you're nuts. There's a way to go to the bottom for airline companies.

>>17816371
uh, hell no. Why tf would you go long on anything PARTICULARLY travel in the middle of countrywide quarantines?

The absolute state of bulls rn

>>17816391

He's just repeating the news, which is accurate, there's no way to disagree with him yet.

>>17816356
Thank a /news/ anon for coding that
A real hero

>>17815790
FF0000

>>17816368
yes, jealous much?

>>17816117
My God.

>>17816404
you have to give them a break. we've been in a bull market "stonks only go up" for literally a decade. they're trying to "buy the bottom" not understanding that this time is different and the bottom isn't going to show up for weeks if not months. they can't understand that stocks don't only go up anymore, that in fact they can just keep going down potentially, because that has been true for over 10 years previously, know what i mean?

uht oh bear bros

>>17816309
>>17816368

>>17816117
what toilet paper company should i buy stock in? who is benefiting during this time?

>>17816371
even boomers don't go full retard like this

>>17816391
PRICED IN!
>Immediate 2.0 Trilllion pump
Nothing personnel, kid

18 hours and 41 minutes until civilisation ends

>>17816461

Kek, a boomer I was talking to yesterday told me they were going to buy Norwegian cruise line stocks on Monday

what the fuck spaceX doing a launch?
kek based elon doenst give a fuck about anything

>>17816461
your tendies are getting cold dear. go eat.

>>17816391
There'll be actual economic effects to this nothing-burger virus.
Nobody actually works when they work from home.
All the lost money from no traveling, no concerts, no conferences, no March Madness or professional sports.
All the C-Suite overreactions due to the unknown revenue, lower stock price, and lack of work from all the Suzy's on Tinder or rubbing their beans at home instead of bean counting, meaning less jobs which equate to less daily spending as well as on real estate.
Tack on inflation due to QE Infinity Part Infinity, and the little man gets fucked again.

Anyone know when the Italian death numbers are released?

>>17816505
If its deep in the red he might profit if he survives nest year.

>>17816519

Not sure, but Spain went from 196 deaths to over 300 deaths today

>>17816390
>M2 monetary supply was at $14.5 trillion in January 2019
So it went from $14.5T in January to $15.3T in October, following a repo pump of $413 billion that started in August. How much do you think will be added following a $7T pump in a time of economic slowdown, where companies are desperately buying up their own stock with loans and consumers taking on credit to deal with both inflation and the lack of work?

>>17816511
There's inherent value in face to face business. If there wasn't we would have made it obsolete with video conferencing. Companies spend billions on travel and airfares because of it, and they do it because it has value. On top of that the vast majority of jobs still require physical presence.

>>17816324
>
My mann

There will be blood.

>>17816117
>Civil war for toilet paper in US by the end of march

>>17816358
Zoomer detected.

>>17816535
wtf I'm a bull now

Honestly you people laugh at the call hoarders, but you really dont have enough calls yourselves. The average person uses 3 calls per day. If you have a family of 4, that's 84 calls a week. Over 300 a month. Calls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.

>>17816212
Inflation depends on velocity of circulation of money too, all these money are not flowing in real economy.

my machine learning model says that we should buy SPY

1 min

>>17816529
You sure about that? I am seeing only 95 deaths today for Spain. Sauce me.

My sauces

>https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
>https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

STANDING HERE
I REALIZE

>>17816535
>consumers taking on credit to deal with both inflation and the lack of work
You know what's the most fun about this?
Consumers are saturated with debt.
Soon the only option to save this house of cards is helicopter money. Some kind of an UBI system that just drops money to people in order for this shitshow to stay standing.
And imagine what happens when interest rates tick up.
This shit is going to be on par with the fall of the soviet union. We'll see an new breed of US based oligarchs born after this drop.

>>17816580
Anon it’s sunday

>>17816580
IT'S
SUNDAY

nvm its sunday

>>17816589
>>17816588

Fucking Neet scum

>>17816595
It's torment isn't it?
Like waiting for Christmas to arrive waiting for this crazy train to get moving again.

Going TP and PT hunting this afternoon again, wish me luck! I already have enough to do us a while but in these dark times you never know.. You know its a sad time when actually having to hunt for TP is a chore.

>>17816587
Assuming that Trump is rational and intelligent, I can only come to the conclusion that he's trying to break the fed, fiat currency, and the current debt-based system in order to return to gold.

>>17815821
>it's filled
What did lawrence mean by this? He's fine with the trade?

>>17816579
BTD, anon

Why don't they open the market 24/7? Why not let these people over-work themselves to death?

so many waiting on shit to crash and burn on monday, no way its actually gonna happen

ARE THE FUTURES RED?

When does Nikkei / Future Market OPENS UP?

>>17816595
Shit happened to me yesterday. I woke early and everything and didn't realize it was Saturday until the markets didn't move.

>>17816625
it'll happen eventually, when bots can do 99.9999% of the trades instead of 99.999%.

there are post and pre market trading already anyway.

>>17816610
That's basically assuming he's not like 100% of other businessmen and financial people and also has an agenda of his own.
It's one hell of an assumption.
Either way this thing is going down hard and there's no stopping it regardless of how much BRRRRR they throw at it.
The ponzi is dying. If they went back to gold it would be great, but I'm afraid that won't happen.
There's way too much fast money to be made in a debt based system.
If dollar gets fucked, they'll just switch to another world reserve currency and resume the debt bullshit printing in 10 years when the depression has run it's course.

>>17816609
Go to Home Depot and get a bidet. They're like 35 bucks

>>17816629

Ignore the news anon ignore the facts!!!

>>17816126
His las speech did wonders, brainlet.

Hope you got some green handy to bag DIS when/if it hits $50. Hell anything under $100 is a gift really. Already got kinda an overweight DIS position but if it drops to 50, I'm gonna strike again.

>>17816691
Most of the time his speeches crash the market. His fucking travel ban announcement was a catastrophe.

>>17816637
6:00pm ET

>>17816678
this but unironically

>>17816625
Jews' Sabbath is from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday so they can't trade. You think they're gonna let themselves get dunked on by goys 24 hours out of every week? Nope. There will never be futures or stock trading on the weekend other than Sunday. And guess what, futures trading opens every Sunday evening. Imagine that.

>>17816712
Well, they are still pushing the crisis envrionment. So, should I be buying? Doesn't seem smart.

>>17816719

>>17816719

who could be behind this post...

>>17816719
>>17816739
can we really really complain about da joos so much when we make so much fucking money off of their markets?

My breathing is off today and I sneezed twice which probably means allergies. Unfortunately for everyone who will come near me today, I'm addicted to pre-workout which means after I'm done chugging this shit I'm going to the gym to infect everyone with my chinky cooties. Anything for gains!
/fit-biz/ reporting in
tomorrow is green btw

>>17816756
Ok jew

>>17816754
>>17816756
>>17816802
>>17816807
last 4 posts green confirmed

>>17816815
not anymore

>>17816117
this wave of people is how shall I put it, very brownish blackish

>>17816802
>after I'm done chugging this shit I'm going to the gym to infect everyone with my chinky cooties
This is why I stopped going to the gym for the time being, but I have three different weighted jump ropes and a treadmill so I'll be fine

>>17816725
just chill with shorting desu

>>17816566

>>17816371
Why would they go up by being banned from international flight?

>>17816707
>muh parking lots
WOW crash over, everybody. Time to flip to long positions again.

>>17816842
>I stopped going to the gym for the time being
Are you an 80 year old or an aids patient?

>>17816691
>delay speech until last minutes of open market
>fed pumping while Trump was on carousel giving corporate jews hand jobs
>15 minute post market and DOW futures drop ~300 while Trump was bumbling through journo questions

>>17816881
>people stuck at home
>still supporting the economy via online ordering
>airline industry moves from moving people to solely moving freight
Very Bullish

>>17816371
you should wait approx 2-3 months and buy the underlying asset, dont fuck with options bc they wont recover quick enough and you'll get murdered by theta and iv crush
buy the following airlines:
UAL
DAL
ALK
SKYW
MESA (if it doesn't fall below 4.00)

if you're really retarded and want options wait for the next dip, load up on otm leaps for 8+ months from now

>>17816910
it'll be fucking sweet if working from home becomes the norm and thus there are innovations to make it more and more practical to do and more accepted by the general culture. this is an introvert's dream.

Redpill me on being a toilet paper hoarder

>>17816936
Shoo shoo bidet shill!

>>17816932
i mean thats already a thing, remote working is possible for nearly every white-collar job imaginable
even senators just video chat into washington during a vote

>>17816952
i want it to go from working at the office being the norm with telecommuting being a thing some times for convenience vs. telecommuting being the norm and working at the office being a thing some times for convenience (like accessing equipment to run tests as an engineer, but otherwise running the automations from home remotely the majority of the time).

>>17816924
sorry just to add on, not meaning to spam the thread im high on pre-workout i dont care FUCK YOU ILL RIP YOUR THROAT OUT

no but seriously airlines are going to require government bailouts so expect the weaker ones to either get swallowed in takeovers or simply go out of business, doesnt even mater if some of these other big ones require baillouts because they will be able to swallow more market share over time which is why fuck options for right now just buy the underlying stock and then write otm calls for people who think airlines will be able to gap up

free money, little risk since those will be covered on not on margin

>>17815760

imagine that there are countries in the world that ban gambling, but all of them work with options

clown world

>>17816952
My very Jewish company is refusing to give me a laptop to work from home. The laptops would have to be configured to remotely connect to our specific server so it’s not like I could just use my own. They also aren’t going to give us leave without using PTO until specifically one of us catches the virus.

>>17816932
Get the climate hysterics on it. They're useful idiots. Work from home = less cars on the road less co2. Boom. BOOM.

>>17816672
It is a Q-tier assumption, I agree. What makes this even funnier is that all this liquidity is being injected into the market, and if they were to forgive debt now, they would have no recourse to counter inflation. Now imagine the chain of defaults when the loans can't be paid back, and the fed has to go for more repos in order to keep the banks from falling. It will keep doing it until the banks can't give up any more collateral, and then the fed will just give them money or let them crash. Then you have the fed's balance sheet, filled with trillions of dollars of assets as its only recourse to counter inflation. Then the assets start to lose value because people flood the bond market as a safe haven against inflation.

Of course, this is all assuming that there will be no effective way to counter the virus and rebound the economy. Most of these $500b repos are 84-days, so they are projecting that the virus will be gone and that the banks will recover their money within this time frame. But you also have five 500b repos at ~30 days. How the fuck are these going to be paid back?

I might be wrong, but this move seems like pure desperation and panic.

>>17816991
i pretty sure i have it, my neighbor was tested positive
wanna work out later? i can poz you lmfao then you can get ur laptop

>>17816991
at the corporation i work for they just booted all of the temps out pretty much, all contractors are out. the temp agency we use isn't paying them during this time either, idk how they get away with that but i feel bad for them. temp workers are getting fucked hard right now, probably a lot of low wage people in general getting fucked hard right now. if you lose your job wtf do you even do, who is interviewing right now? no one.

>>17817006
Positively fucked. Rock and a hard place for anyone who doesn’t like their job. You either keep going and hope they let you off before it spreads or you quit and don’t work for up to 2-3 months, blowing through most of your savings.

>>17817006
temp workers get fucked over always. I dont mind temp work, but I will never work through a temp agency

>>17816998
i feel like this is another 2008 situation where we deal with the crisis first so society as we know it doesn't fucking implode, and then we deal with the consequences after the main problem is taken care of.

honestly as long as i get to continue living in my house, eating meatball subs occassionally with electricity and internet access and hot water etc, let them run up the debt as much as they want. my biggest worry is that this is the big one and everything is gonna be fucked beyond recovery, as long as they solve that problem im cool with staying home for a couple months, maybe even a year. just don't let society collapse even if we have to play pretend with the national debt.

>>17816893
I prefer not to get sick and infect my parents/grandparents without knowing it

>>17816936
The FED pumps liquidity into the market until hyperinflation kicks in, the virus kills off enough people that law & order break down.
And that's when a select few will rise to glory and prominence on the back of their vast toilet paper fortunes - which are now not only more valuable than paper money, but also practical.
Toilet paper is the new gold, you wait and see.

>>17816456
I've been in Proctor and Gamble for years and they are weathering well. They own Charmin brand toilet paper and other cleaning/grooming products.

>>17816924

Newish options guy here. I've been researching and dabbling in this stuff and I've done well but I've never heard of otm leaps. Could you explain? Is this just a longer call?

>>17817064
Ah, right. Good lad. I live in a different state from mine, so we're just not visiting for a while.

>>17817083
any others? nestle apparently owns poland spring water, i was considering checking them out since water is also selling like hot cakes.

>>17817055
It's not like 2008. 2008 was a liquidity crisis. The underlying economic mechanisms were sound, so QE made sense. This time around, the economic engine is slowing down because of a disease, so pumping more liquidity into the market only makes the situation that much worse.

>>17817006
>idk how they get away with that
Because you can get away with anything if you have them sign a contract

>>17817083
neat.

Please love me Pendy

>>17815760
How are things looking for Monday?

>>17817134
things are going to be looking bad for the whole market for months, invest in gold or something. you guys can stop asking this question every fucking day for the next couple of months now.

>>17817134
+5%. CV was priced in Thursday.

>>17817102
are you fucking retarded, or what
repo operations started September last year, you brain damaged moron, this virus scare is just a cover for the economic collapse which has been on the horizon for decades

>>17817088
similar yes, investopedia is your friend if you're new, just read everything you can, and if you're a actually serious about learning this stuff, take handwritten notes, do some online quizzes to test yourself, try to explain things in your own words, etc.
If you're that new I would recommend starting with robinhood and making VERY small plays, like buying one contract. This does not mean buying cheap contracts just to be clear, many newbs make that mistake. Remember, they're cheap for a reason

Any anons wanting to keep up with Trump's schedule like press conferences and shit to get in on the pump 'n dump, here's a good source.
https://factba.se/topic/calendar

>>17817134
>the west is shutting down

>>17817150
kek

>>17816610
Holy shit Trump is going to have everything made out of gold.

>>17817163
>in house pool call time
Trump is so up his own ass that he is doing calls from his fucking dollar bill shaped pool. Unreal. Unacceptable. America - take out your fucking trash.

>>17816691
You mean the one that got delayed so that the dow tracker at the bottom right corner was perfectly in line with the speech? They were pumping it to high heaven during that speech.

what do you guys think of Marc Chaikin and his indicators? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DICZVkBK3_k

>>17817134
Let's just say that IF it is up, it will be beyond any doubt or reason the pump is completely fake and gay

>>17817147
it's probably going to be green for a while because of the repos

>>17817151
Yeah, so, what's your point? Is the economy not taking a big hit due to the virus on top of everything else? If this was just a financial crisis, then extra liquidity would keep companies afloat until things returned to normal. But the added factors of the disease, oil prices, social disruption, and slowdown in the actual economy completely set this apart from 2008.

>>17815996
>>17816040
I didnt watch the all of it but I've seen a fuckload of spaghetti westerns and it's basically this. It's like they had a passionate director who really just wanted to remake The Great Silence as a TV drama but they forced this shitty star wars IP down his throat along with an assload of cash and he just said 'fuck it'
It actually worked out though

>>17817217
down on strength, up on weakness, down on strength, up on weakness. classic definition of a downtrend. i mean at the end of the day you can decide on specific entries and exits however you want, but it's generally a bad idea to try to fight against the trend instead of going with it, especially when it is trending this strongly downwards with a really powerful fundamental reason to back up why it is trending down.

>>17817163
>theres a dedicated symbol for golf
top lad

>>17817242
top lad eh? Oh yeah? FUCK THAT orange cuck motherfucker. He better go do his job

>>17817134
Futures are gonna limit down tonight. Market will probably hit the -7% circuit breaker. Rally Tuesday/Wednesday. The CFD weekend dow was down 4% last I checked.

>>17816691
do normies actually believe that?

>>17817203
It's a ballsack isn't it?

>>17817217
>Is the economy not taking a big hit due to the virus on top of everything else?
no, that's exactly the point retard, that's just a scare pushed by mainstream media to cover up the economic collapse, it's literally elites pushing their agenda through paid shills, and the average person (like yourself) is gobbling up the shite like it was baked beans
>If this was just a financial crisis, then extra liquidity would keep companies afloat until things returned to normal
you don't get it, do you?
this depression has been looming for decades, and has been postponed every time things went awry, but this time around there is no postponing it any longer, things are about to crash worse than 1929, the death toll and cost to society will be unprecedented

>>17817280
the immortal question is: where's the bottom? how low does it have to go before the coronavirus is fully "priced in" and people are ready to start buying at largely discounted prices? iirc warren buffet has already started buying a shitload of delta.

>>17817339
when cases start to decrease instead of increase maybe

>>17817333
ah, ok you're a retard

>>17817280
I can't believe how many dumbfucks here don't even pay attention to the news coming out of the govt/Fed. Powell will come out right before futures open and announce a standing facility. Mnuchin also gave an interview on Friday doubling down on "unlimited liquidity". Monday will be green as fuck, thank me later.

>>17817333
damn, schizos coming out in full force over this ncov thing, huh? i really need to check out some recent alex jones vids i bet he's losing his damn mind over conspiracies on this shit lmao.

>>17817339
Best I can come up with is when the bad news slows down to a trickle and some credible good news comes out. Might be a month or two at the earliest. If shit hits the fan in the US like in a really bad way at some point, well, I hope you have your puts ready. Maybe that won't happen though

>>17817333
wow you must think you have an iq of 130, right?

>>17817376
schizo for pointing out the obvious, sure
repo operations begin in September last year, financial system is starting to show cracks in the dams, and boom, suddenly a global virus scare pushed synchronously by all media worldwide
wow, what a coincidence!
if you don't get it, you must be suffering from literal brain damage
ironically, it would be more accurate to call people like you schizos, since you're completely detached from reality

I want to use my Apple credit card to buy stocks on robinhood. How do?

I have 5k left on my limit want to buy more oil stocks?

>>17817372
>Monday will be green as fuck, thank me later.
Thank you for what? Market's not even open even if I was inclined to believe you.

>>17817400
shit will hit the fan in the US

just look at how many tests the US have done

there are way more people infected than you could imagine and its going to be really bad in about 2-3 weeks

>>17817372
France and Spain shut down, Nike stores shut down, Apple stores shut down, UK travel ban etc.

If anything it will crab.

>>17815760
I have a portfolio that consistently beats the market. How can I raise capital for a fund with this track record?

>>17817430
you get into schizo territory when you start making large claims about the end of the world. things are gonna suck for months, sure. im prepared for a year or two. it's not gonna be the end of the world though that's the point, even though it seems like there are a lot of people who for whatever insane reason actually WANT the world to end and everyone, themselves and their loved ones included, to die. thus, schizo.

>>17817445
>Private healthcare.
Lel

>>17817428
took an official test by Mensa years ago, scored 40/40 and was measured at 135+ (test didn't go higher)
never joined though, don't see the point

>>17817468
you get a couple of years of doing it with your own money to prove that it works and then you shop those results around to banks and such, but that was pre-nCoV. main issue is that there is a high likelihood that your $5000 portfolio consistently beating the market probably can't do it with $5b.

>>17817492
oh boy, here we fucking go...

>>17817474
it's not the "end of the world", but it sure as hell is the end of a lot of things
and I personally don't want it to happen at all, it's just inevitable at this point, but I can definitely sympathize with a lot of people who just want to watch the world burn without labeling them as schizos, you must live an extremely sheltered existence if you're not aware of the absolute shit some people go through, some of it makes me totally understand that some people want everyone dead
also, if you want a "loved one" dead, they're not really a loved one, jackass, and it could be fully rational to want someone dead

>>17817454
>Bill Gates resigned
>Italy WW3
>NYC upcoming WW3

>>17817504
he was the one who mentioned IQ, not me, so fuck off

>>17817468
you establish a company that is in business of increasing capital aka hedge fund and then you sell those shares out to investors

>>17817454
>when you had NKE puts that expire this week at 70 for .01 but you sold them for a mere 1000% increase

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>17817542
Nobody gives a shit about your fucking IQ test

So could I use my Apple Card to pay myself with square then send funds to robinhood ?

>>17817534
The NYC thing will be huge, imagine coronchan knocking on the trading floors.

5,000 dead or 5 million?


Why the discontinuity at R0 of just below 1.5? Well, here’s the number of critical cases over time for several different scenarios. The vertical line is when we impose controls, the horizontal lines are ICU bed capacity and total hospital bed capacity. Right below an R0 of 1.5, we dip the # of critical cases low enough that we never exceed hospital capacity. The trick here though is that until you get R0 below 1.0 you’re still sweeping through most of the population, just more slowly, slowly enough that the hospitals can handle it. And that means that, for example, if you get R0 to exactly 1.0 you have to keep those infection controls in place for ~5 years or else you’ll be back up close to 5million dead again.

>>17817558
>>17817491
For the record I have been growing my own (fairly substantial) account for several years now. I think the strategy can scale up to the tens of millions and that's really all I want to manage. I'm not looking to be a Ray Dalio type manager - too much stress.

>>17816580
Get out of moms basement more

>>17817565
Lol they would prob go ITM next week

>>17817580
Oops, graph:

>>17817584
no

>>17817492
>40/40
>135
No one tell him.
41/40 here
140 iq
Didn't find the bonus question, brainlet?

>>17817582
the purpose of a hedge fund is to raise as much capital as possible and then sell the fund to someone else.

>>17817587
shush you

>>17816167
Taking profit in a market like this is never a bad idea.

>>17817614
and by raise capital i mean getting more investor money

>>17817607
135+, like I said, it didn't measure higher, scoring 40/40 just meant I had an IQ of at least 135, but possibly higher
based on estimates from an aggregate of unofficial tests taken under controlled conditions, I'd estimate myself at around 140-145, but that's ultimately speculation

>muh Bill Gates resignation

>>17817627
what are you currently invested in?

>>17817627
>based on unofficial tests taken under controlled conditions,
lmao

>>17817627
Figured you'd choose that range, since I'm 155iq.

AVERAGE
>income: 134k/year
>height: 224cm
>IQ: 165
>penis length: 28cm
>weight: 104kg
>sexual partners: 56
>Robinhood Portfolio: 0
HOW DO YOU STACK UP?

>>17817656
>>penis length: 28cm
do you faint when you get a boner?

> With no control measures, it sweeps through more slowly, with less load on the hospital system, so the total deaths drops to 2.8 million, but it takes 608 days instead of about a year.

This shit may have only just started

https://www.unz.com/isteve/arguably-wrong-potential-american-deaths-range-from-5k-to-5-million/

>>17817656
>lying on the internet
>on /biz/ of all places

QE4 will be something never seen before, trillions and trillions of dollars.

I hope you bought gold.

>>17816821
Just say the word. We all know you're thinking it.

>>17817666
I make women faint with my boner

>>17817678
Confirmed sub-average

>cruise industry shut down now
>people still think that the fed printing money and throwing it at stocks will make the real world virus stop being a problem
>still thinking the media won’t just continue to make this worse
>implying Coronavirus even exists
>implying this won’t be perfectly coordinated simply to fuck up the world economy and blame trunp

>>17817680
who's going to buy your gold?

>>17817641
property and commodities
>>17817648
yes, apart from the official Mensa test, I've taken several unofficial tests, and what I meant by controlled conditions is to only consider results where taking the test was as if I was taking an official one, i.e. not counting anything if I'd come across it or any of the test puzzles before

>>17817696
Those who want gold.

>>17817656
>>17817656
>Income: 400k (if I try lol) 350k normally
>Height: 225cm
>Penis length: 28.5cm
>Weight: 110kg
>Sexual partners: lost count
>Robinhood portfolio: on the moon

>Want to capitalise on the dip
>Rumors of layoffs at work
>Half company gets laid off and I only keep my job because two other people literally just left for new jobs the week before
>Some people got fired within a month of being hired even though they were great

How lucky did I just get and how fucked are my coworkers who got laid off and dumped right into the job market during what is probably the worst time to need a job? Everyone in NYC is WFH and I doubt they will hire anyone during this. I feel like I dodged an absolute life ruining bullet by the skin on my teeth. I also just happened to go cash right before all this as I was too busy to pay attention to stocks and felt a "spidey sense". I usually don't care about panic news, but holy fuck the sword basically passed between my balls and dick and I could still lose my job if this keep up. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. In most alternate realities that differ only by a hairs breadth I am unemployed and contemplating complete financial ruin and suicide. In this reality I am scared, but am presented with one of the greatest buying opportunities of my lifetime. Holy absolute fuck this timeline is retarded, but working for me for this brief window.

>>17817692
I wouldn't cry if trump was killed by the virus

>>17817696
gold will always be in high demand, even in a truly apocalyptic scenario
even in a Mad Max style world, which among the most apocalyptic imaginable, people would still value gold
would be more likely to get it stolen than actually being able to sell or trade it under those circumstances, though

European brainlet here, no experience with trading, own 15k. I made a broker account and transfered 1.5k, im gonna buy some shares, im probably gonna transfer another 7k and buy some more shares and use the rest when the american market crashes. This smart or should i stay away?

Why won't the world just explode anons, i'm so tired of waiting, i want every normie crying out in despair for believing the brainwashing

>>17817656
>income: 13k/year (3rd world country)
>height: 184cm
>IQ: no idea, probably under 100 even though everybody has always praised me as genius
>penis length: 14cm
>weight: 90kg
>sexual partners: 2 (escorts)
>Robinhood Portfolio: 0

bullish on oil?

>/smg/ becomes an a/s/l thread on the weekends

Peter Schiff seems like he understands monetary policy but his fucking obsession with gold is his inner Jew. Fucking nobody buys gold during deflation. Time and time again this has happened. The only things that matters to people is cash

>>17817746
for some more information im specifically planning on buying GBL, SHELL and SOLVAY with some more

>>17816673
or get a short hose and some caulk and extend your bath spout

Anyone here still hodling?

>>17817795
he sells gold ha dingus he's not obsessed

>>17817746
just wait, the virus is spreading, recession is upon us, not the time to buy just yet

>>17817656
>165
The actual, gold standard, clinical IQ test (Wechsler) only goes to 160 with a S.D. of 15.

List of movies to watch during the weekend

Margin Call
The Big Short
Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room
Inside Job
Too Big to Fail
The Last Days of Lehman Brothers
The Flaw
Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve
Debtocracy (Greek crisis)
Hank: 5 Years from the Brink
Panic: The Untold Story of the 2008 Financial Crisis
Rogue Trader
Trading Places
Frontline: Credit Default Swaps
Escape from New York

>>17817857
i think that most of this will be over by summer

>>17817746
Stay away.

In these times even the best traders sit still and let it ride.

>>17817875
I see lots of anons doing lots of money with puts.

>>17817743
New Orleans post-Katrina was the closest thing to a modern apocalyptic scenario and nobody was running there around buying shit with gold doubloons

>https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1239208090601263104
>China's national anthem is being played in Rome, while Italians chant "Grazie, Cina!" #StandWithItaly
kek

>>17817875
yeah but check SHELLS stock for example, its at an all time low at 13, now obviously there is a oil crisis or some sorts but the saudis failed in their try 4 years ago and i see them failing now. I see SHELL back at 20-25 in a year.

>another cruise ship hit
>3000pt drop monday

>>17815799
This
3/20 or later dates?

>>17816672

What other currency? The Yen? The Yuan? The Euro? Everything has been printed to shit to keep up with the dollar's inflation. It's all pegged to the dollar.

>>17817907
This. Oil is the backbone of the American economy right now, it will not be allowed to drop long term, even if it means another war in the Middle East and more sanctions on Russia.

Bought calls at 2:30 Friday, already up 200%, so excited for the rally to continue Monday. NOTHINGBURGER CONFIRMED GET FUCKED BEARS

>>17817746
You have to start somewhere. You seem fairly insecure (for starters - asking confirmed retards and shills on an anonymous forum if your investment strategy is sound), leading me to believe that 7k out of 15k net worth is a bit steep. But if you can stomach losing 7k - sure, go ahead.

You need to detach your emotions from your trades or you will make bad decisions. This usually requires risking only what you are fine losing.

>>17817811
Picking individual stocks is hard and risky. If you have really done your homework on these three - sure, go ahead. If you're acting on a hunch or you don't know what you're doing - consider investing into broader market segments via ETFs. That takes a lot of risk of horrible decisions out of the equations (but costs you some potential profit in return).

>>17817896
They just took it down.

>>17817908
Cruise ships should all be brought to shore at this point.

>>17817887
Which is incredibly risky, since we know the fed will have to take extreme measures but haven't said which measures.

Denmark for example just came out and said they will print money to pay for all salaries.

>>17817907
Critical companies will not be allowed to fail, we know that already. That doesn't mean their value will be high.

A lot of companies, especially oil companies, are dependent on continuous streams of credit. Credit has completely dried up.

>>17817964
haha
that's insane

>>17817944
Uh ok, yeah, like there’s no push to be zero emissions or electric cars.

>>17817957
im following a native language trading forum and those were reccomended by respected members, now im a retard but everyone seems to be saying "buy the dip" and if these stocks are at 5 time low it seems like a worthy risk

>>17817972
i see the exact same happening 4 years ago with saudi pumping oil to try to bankrupt oil companies, they failed then and i dont see a bunch of dumb arabs succeeding now

>>17816371
Two or three of those have a decent probability of actually going out of business. Thanks for the laugh

it's just a flu.

so uh we're recovering on Monday right and all this virus business is just going to be swept under the rug and forgotten about as some weird event?

EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS
>EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS
EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS
>EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS
EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS
>EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS
EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS
>EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS
EVERYTHING IS IN RED GET FUCKED BULLS

>>17817860
>Escape from New York

>>17817888
That's was in a pretty small area of the united states, relatively speaking. Normies on the other side of the country went about business as usual and didn't think about it.
This is nationwide.

>>17817997
Third world development will more than make up for first world oil consumption dropping. All of Africa, Asia, South America are going to need more and more oil as they develop. Oil had a bright future if you can see past the sappy first world environmentalist sentiment.

>someone in China is probably celebrating getting over wuflu by eating pangolin soup

>>17817746
Wait until it feels like we might be running out of bad news then dollar cost average into DBPG

>>17818052
They're probably drinking pangolin soup thinking it will cure them. Fucking retards.

>>17817853
Yes but I have been buying options to offset any losses

I'm actually up 20% the last 3 months lmaoooooo

>>17817997
>implying people don't drive 30+year old cars to this day, every day
>implying those cars will just disappear overnight
>implying that if they were "banned", trying to throw away hundreds of millions of cars overnight, wouldn't have a larger environmental impact than driving them

Bizbros, I have a legit question. If jewels control the stock market, why don't they also control the market of calls and puts?

>>17817746
Study this shit before buying, you have a month at least.

>>17817858
I tested at 132

Am I smart ;-;

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NEW THREAD

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>>17817955
Sell at noon on Monday and wait for the next drop

I chickened out of buying calls on Friday morning

Hate myself for it

Lads

I’m starting to get mucus


They made us go to classes this week one week after the students went to spring break and where many went abroad

>>17818012
Do your own homework. "Everyone seems to be saying" is not a good reason to sell or buy.
Past events also do not guarantee future development. Maybe it'll be like 4 years ago. Maybe not. And there's the ever-looming risk of coincidence. What if a Shell oil drilling platform pulls a Deepwater Horizon next year? That's the kind of risk you're taking on if you pick individual companies to invest in.

The key is what you call "worthy risk" and that's what I mean by asking you to be prepared to take losses. Nobody can give you a 100% secure profit. You will always have to make a bet of some kind.

What's your timeframe? Would you be fine with waiting a few years for recovery? Could you ride out a temporary -40% inbetween?

>>17816371

Do but later, airlines are money printing machines in good times but albatrosses in bad times. They are the first to get hit and they get hit hard.

>>17817271

Nigger please, there's 1,044 work days in a 4 year period and he hasn't even been president 4 years.

>>17818117
Sounds like you got the rona

>>17817705
>I took some online IQ tests at home
Why are you trying to impress random strangers on an underwater basket weaving forum for asians?

>>17817572
>NYC has skyrocketed from fewer than 30 earlier in the week to 269 as of Sunday morning.

RIP

>>17815850
See pic attached...1.124 T USD into the dow alone this past Friday. Someone else mentioned the jump could have been the "covering of shorts"...but really? Suddenly during Trump's speech which really wasn't good news at all, the covering of shorts caused ~1.124+T gain of market cap in the DOW? Can someone explain this to me? I'm getting more and more worried that the Fed will print the fuck out of money, loan it to whoever is in cohorts with them, and then this second entity is buying up the stock market...this just acts totally inflationary on the market. Stocks would stabilize or rise, but not because they are of additional intrinsic value, but because of inflation alone; and the bank/hedge fund etc that is doing all this buying will then own a huge chunk of the american stock market. Can someone explain? Those who watched the market live this past week will know the market pumps were far from natural, especially because of how it affected the index (and during low-volume).

>>17817656
>15k/yr
>6'2''
>unknown
>6'' or so
>175lb
>1
>lol Robinhood

>>17816055
I'm starting to hate Trump, and I really hate the market interference. complete joke

>>17816087
Not if massive inflation occurs. The inflation would have the effect of moving the market closer to fair value. This is my main concern [with all the money-printing /super low interest loans to XXXX entities that are working with Trump admin to purchase massive amounts of equities.] ..see my previous posts for pic.

>>17816439
While I agree with you, I want to ask you (or others reading this): who is going to sell right now, therefore causing the market to retract further? --also, why will they sell?

>>17819263
The Fed and Trump fucking the economy like this is really starting to piss me off. A lot. How do I vent frustration?

>>17817732
What industry is already firing people?