/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17664655
He never had it to begin with

>>17664655
he is going insane. it is happening.

>noooooo stop selling
>you can’t just vote for Bernie it’s wrong

Is he wrong?

with jews, you lose.

MIGA cvck

LOL please tell me trump actually understands the markets and is playing a game here
There's no way he actually believes his own bullshit

>70,000 per year
>corona is twice as deadly
>140,000 deaths a year
oh fuck

Bitcoin being a store of value is fake news

>>17664752
coronachan is 20 times deadlier than the flu. trump lost all fucking credibility. when the ICUs get overloaded, people are going to call him out. even his most ardent supporters are going to turn.

He is trying to jawbone the market up.

>>17664655
If he said everyone should be concerned then everyone would panic even more than now and the economy would crash even more. Common sense, he definitely knows how bad the virus really is

>>17664885
I think he is just a boomer in peak denial

>>17664718
yes. the fucking market was so overbought that it was looking for any excuse to correct. bernie, virus and now oil gave it a reason. trump can be pretty stupid.

>>17664864
That's the thing, why did he put himself in this corner?
He could have closed the boarders and gained support and national unity, but now we're scrambling and falling apart as the virus gets worse

>>17664864
>almost all of the 20% who need ventilators will die
This will be like 10,000 hurricane katrinas

>>17664917
>why did he put himself in this corner
Well you know how all the Trump sycophants like to excuse whenever he does something stupid by saying its all part of a convoluted plan? They're wrong.

Fuck TT MIGA cunt. Let the dems win and crash the country for good

>>17664655
Saying the flu is more dangerous because it killed more people than Coronavirus is like saying bows and arrows are more dangerous than nuclear bombs because more people have been killed by bows and arrows.

>>17664917
>He could have closed the boarders and gained support and national unity
anon do you really believe this

>>17664655
Obligatory meme

>>17664864
>>17664928
>>17664946
FUCKING KEK

>>17664655
I'd say he's is the only one in control. Rest of the world is losing it over this coronavirus scam.

>>17664946
I've seen a couple things that made me sick
One was how people put profits over safety and it was a reflection of how leveraged the economy is they would take that risk
So businesses across america instead of mitigating the effects they chose profits
The other thing was how this potential medical crisis has turned into a political thing
People were calling racism or something ridiculous for using common sense, now Trump down playing now the media over playing

We can't get a straight answer and that's really dangerous if things get worse

>>17665064
He is the only one in control. Rest of the world is losing it over this coronavirus scam.

He only ran for president to make money for himself

>>17664712
>he voted for Bernie
I hope you didn't donate your Vbucks to him as well

>>17664984
He couldn't have gained national unity, he could have solidified republican support and won independents handily. Instead he'll rightfully be torn apart over his handling of this.

>>17664718
>>17664752
And there’s no vaccine for the flu. So number of cases will be higher

>>17665110
>donates his salary entirely
>runs against the media corruption which united against him and slandered anything named Trump
>ran for money

Hmmm...

>>17664917
He can't close the border, and he's probably not as filled in on how bad it really is. So, the next best option is to try and get the populace to calm down and try to make things look good for his coming election, since the economy doing well is a really big supporting pillar to his whole campaign.
Sadly, he's not the type of dood whom is able to calm people down.

>>17664718
No. Corona is a meme

>>17664996
kek

>>17664864
If its deadlier then why doesnt the actual death rate reflect that "fact"

>>17665141
I mean the corona

>>17664743
Of course he's playing a game you stupid nigger

>>17664655
As much of a madman as he is, he's right. Corona-chan is literally just a reskinned flu that's killing more old people because we don't have a vaccine for it like we do for the flu. But for everyone who's not a literal boomer, you just get the sniffles and maybe a fever at most unless you already have lung disease or a compromised immune system.

Saudi Arabia and Russia are just using the panic as an opportunity to kill the petroldollar, something they've wanted to do for a very long time but haven't really found a safe opportunity to capitalize on. With China down and out for an entire month, they can easily use the excuse of "we had to fuck the market to make profit because China was one of our largest customers."

It's not as convoluted as he makes it out to be, but anyone who understands the history of oil within the economy and has the capability to read and process statistics from raw datapoints knows that everything is being blown the fuck out of proportion to take economic control away from the US. Unfortunately, Trump is a moron who isn't helping because he's trying his best to hide information in an attempt to maintain control. But it's failing terribly because he's unintentionally really transparent about blatantly lying, which just makes more people distrust him and lean in onto the panic.

Thanks for reading my tedtalk, here's something cute but also a little funny.

This is nothing. Just Soros and his buddies attempting an economic coup for the upcoming elections. I'm calling it now. Buy the fear. We'll be over 30k after elections.

>>17665196
>why doesn't the actual death rate reflect that "fact"?
It does. You realize the death rate for seasonal flu is only 0.1%, right?

>>17665235
Corona's got like a 10% kill rate for people with heart disease or diabetes, burgers are gonna get massacred.

>>17664917
Controlled opposition and obvious actor. Also “fall guy” but that will be later down the road.

leftypol faggots go home
reeeeeeee

>>17664655
No

REMINDER

>>17665172
He cannot hold this out until the election that’s impossible.
If it goes 8-9 months before peaking we’re fucked beyond mere elections.

>>17664743
He's right though.
He fucked up when he took credit for the market pump.
Now he'll be blamed for its dump despite having nothing to do with it.
He set himself up for failure.

>those darn Democrats spreading fake news! Stock Market is fine, buy the dip.

>>17665511
Why do they always do these gay cringe LARPs about organizing whatever the fuck like they aren’t discord trannies jerking each other off on image boards?

>>17665619
the world is going all out just to make Trump bad.

>>17665539
Based Trump, 4d'ing the kikes as we speak.

>>17665153
>thinking 400k a year is anything compared to what he saves off the tax cuts he implemented

>>17664655
"MAYBE IF I MAKE ALL OF MY SUPPORTERS INTO BAG HOLDERS I CAN SAVE SOME OF MY MONEY NOOOOOO I SHOULD HAVE SOLDDDDDDD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCKED THISSS I QUIT THIS FUCKING JOBBBB AHHHHHHHHHH

>>17665436
Low sample size. Heart disease and diabetes usually correlates to other underlying health issues and an overall weakened body in general due to years of disabled functioning.

Here's the deal - Covid19 isn't "just starting" to spread in the US. It's already here. It's been here for over a month. Chinese new year was in January, incubation period is 2 weeks. Chinks already flew to China, coughed all over each other's bat soups, and flew back to the US to cough on the Chinese takeout and laundry machines that their customers use. It's already widespread in the US, just listen to literally any official conference on the disease and you'll hear people on stage and in the crowd coughing every fucking minute.

But we aren't testing them. Unless you're seriously ill (which most people aren't) you aren't going to get tested. So the virus is running around unchecked and under-reported, and it has been for over a month now. If burgers were more susceptible to it, we'd have already seen that to be the case by now. But as more time goes by it looks more and more like we're having the same numbers as the rest of the world.

Keep in mind that we had a spike of deaths recently due to a NURSING HOME getting hit by it (RIP niggas). Also keep in mind that Washington state has higher confirmed cases not because it's running rampant there, but because they're one of the only states that are testing for Corona without the CDC's permission due to a research lab's loophole allowing them to give CDC the finger and test without approval. Most other states don't have that luxury, and the CDC is firmly enforcing the policy that nobody is to be tested unless they're pretty much knocking on heaven's door.

As I typed this post out, I've heard coughing from every corner of my fucking office from co-workers. I have a strong immune system so give zero shits, but I'm positive corona is in my office. I'm not panicking though, because it's just a fucking flu.

>>17665759
YOU ARE NOT SMART
YOU ARE A RETARD
THERE IS A GIGANTIC BUBBLE SO DELICATE THAT A FUCKING FLU CAN POP IT
THATS IT
YES IT'S JUST A FUCKING FLU
THATS NOT THE REASON
THATS NOT THE FUCKING REASON
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCKING REPO MARKET IS?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT HAS BEEN DOING?
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS?

>>17665115
I did, no regrets.

>>17665759
The rest of the world's numbers peg it as being like 50x more deadly than the flu. I don't care because I'm young and healthy and I think I may have already actually got it after eating at a chinese restaurant, but it's God's anti-boomer scourge and the boomers who run the economy are running scared of it.

>>17665812
This nigger is agreeing with you.

>>17665812
You sound pretty mad, bro. I'm not even disagreeing with you, take a chill pill. I know the economy has been a huge fucking bubble that's been propped up against toothpicks for like a decade now, that's why I have over 9k in gold and silver. We never fixed any of the shit from the '08 recession, we just put a fucking bandied on it and the fed kept pumping that bubble with hot air. The plan was to eventually stop when a full fix was actually put together and rolled out, but that never fucking happened.

Did you even read my first post? Cause I already said that Corona-chan was just a scapegoat for the market to pop without bankers taking the blame. >>17665235

Relax. Look at more cute pictures, laugh a bit at how funny they are. If you aren't using this opportunity to make money then you aren't thinking clearly.

>>17665722
>becoming most hated man in western press since Adolf Hitler just to save on some taxes

BASED

>>17665930
>Did you even read my first post
MY BAD DUDE IM BUGGING OUT
YOUR BASED AFTER ALL EXCUSE E NOW AHHHHHHHHHH

>>17665235
>Saudi Arabia and Russia are just using the panic as an opportunity to kill the petroldollar,
yes. Trump tweeting shit about how this is good for the consumer is fucking retarded though.

>>17664743
He's trying to instill confidence, or just get some suckers to buy while he sells. Trump isn't that dumb.

>>17664674
fp
tbp

>>17665153

> Assuming Trump is a competent businessman

>>17664655
Lol he's using the economy to get voted back in but the economy is tanking.

t. Someone who would've voted for him in 2016 (or was it 2015?) if I cared enough to vote.

>>17665918
>The rest of the world's numbers peg it as being like 50x more deadly than the flu.

Not really. Like I said, we're dealing with two factors that skew the numbers a bit to make them seem more scary:

1. The virus isn't being tested in individuals who present mild symptoms in most countries. Resources are limited and you're not a priority if you're just coughing and have a slight fever.

2. We have literally years of flu statistics against just months of Covid19 statistics. The sample sizes are vastly different, but we do know for a fact that it's a lot easier to tell when someone dies (so they join the statistics) than when someone just eats some chicken soup at home for a week and comes out okay without ever getting tested (thus not joining the statistics)

3. There's no vaccine created for Covid19. The point of vaccinations is to keep the mortality rate capped at a low number. Without widespread vaccination of the flu virus, it'd be just as deadly to boomers. But every boomer's doctor will force them pretty much at gunpoint to take the vaccine, so they're pretty much covered.


I understand why you're scared, my friend. But when you look at everything from a wider scope you see that the logical conclusion to make is that based on the current data - we're not dealing with some worldending black plague shit. Just a flu, without a vaccine, that's too new to have a full picture of at the moment.

>>17664885
You got it.

>>17664910
You don't understand how this bullshit economy works. One of the tools in the toolbox of the central bankers is talking: threatening to do something that will get people buying, either to front run or to avoid losing purchasing power in their safe haven assets.

Trump realizes full well that if this market crashes, he's going to lose the election this November. Being that he wants a second term, you can bet your ass he's going to pull every lever available to keep the stock market from plummetting.

>>17664655
Back to work slave, no more questions.

>>17664984
Lol this.

>>17664996
Kek'd audibly

>>17665722
But the rich don’t get taxed

>>17665172
>he's not the type of dood whom is able to calm people down.
This. If it was someone such a JFK it'd be a different story.

t. Guy who doesn't care enough to vote but considered voting for him in 2016.

>>17665141
>he fell for the vaccine meme

that's why you have autism

>>17664967
Excellent analysis

>>17665930
Apart from investing in assets that go against the petro-dollar, how else are you making money?

My family are too boomer-tastic to sell one of their houses (that they don't live in) at market-top and think the housing market is just going to keep going up.

Were there cheap houses for sale in the EU in 2008?

>>17666150
>> Assuming Trump is a competent businessman

Yet he somehow managed to destroy Clintons, Bushes, made RNC his own party and is watching DNC go the way of the Whigs...all while running circles around the previously much feared "deep state". How does he do it?

>>17666176
He isn't wrong. Maybe don't go to work physically, work from home, but don't stop your life over a freakin flu virus.

>>17666344
And then everyone clapped. It's a good thing trump tied the RNC to his own personal brand all things considered. Considering it's about to crash and bring down all his cultists as collateral.

>>17666395
>Considering it's about to crash

lol, anytime now!

>>17664655
Have to keep the Economy up for the Election.

Birdflu. Same shit. Big bag of nothing.

>>17666431
>stop your economy and all work in the country because the media says so

>>17664655
he's right though

>>17664674
You commie think tank shills are absolutely retarded

>>17666370
>He isn't wrong
Funny then that he would make an exemption for all his pals at CPAC and AIPAC once a carrier was found to maybe have attended those events. It looks like Drumpf has a problem practicing what he preaches. A running theme for his presidency.

>>17666166
If it's literally just the flu then people are going to be pissed at all those countries who locked themselves down and quarantined whole population centers in response to it, that's 99% of why people are panicking over it.

>>17666423
Muh eternal growth

>>17666294
Looking carefully at the market and buying stocks at a discount. Even if you lose money in the short term from catching knives, the markets WILL eventually stabilize and you'll make a profit in the long term.

Don't play with money you can't afford to lose, but at the same time don't be afraid to take some risks. Stock markets aren't crypto, you aren't going to see major companies like Apple completely bottom out at 0 and never rebound again. The world needs to consume, and it will even if it has to take a nap for a year or two.

If the housing market tanks, cheap houses are indeed a good investment. Yes, there were cheap houses in the EU after the 08 crash, and people who gobbled them up and sold them a few years later made a pretty penny.

Crypto genuinely is a good point of risk right now, but it's VERY hard to time the market and even harder to decide which shitcoin will actually profit from this whole thing. Only do this if you're lookin to high risk high reward the system right now. If you're young - chances are any losses you make right now will seem devastating but eventually be a drop in the ocean 20-30 years from now when you look back at yourself.

So budget yourself for safety/stability (precious metals), long term slow profit (stocks/bonds/treasuries/housing), and high risk gambles (crypto/individual stock picking). Everyone's finances are different, so it's difficult to create a "catch all" plan. Take care of yourself, friend.

For reference - I an a market analyst. I do this stuff for a living; my entire profession is looking at large data sets and translating, researching the primary movers of those numbers, figuring out where and why discrepancies between similar data exists, and translating my findings into layman explanations for my fatcat bosses to execute plans on. I've been very successful at my job thus far, so I'm pretty confident in my analysis of the current state of affairs.

>>17665196
>hurrrr durrrrr can’t undastabs basic conceps drooooool

>>17664864
A have a source from a professor of virology who said that the Coronavirus is 34 times deadlier than the common flu. They also stated that hospitals will be completely flooded eventually, just like you said. All I know is that during this upcoming election I’m throwing my vote away, I’ve fuckin had it with Trump and I certainly don’t want a libshit in office either.

>>17666600
>eventually
>maybe in 100 years but eventually
You realize a depression can last decades, right? You will need that money. But you want to potentially cut it in half or more catching a falling knife because you think “eventually” it’ll be at that price again. That happens until it doesn’t, the stock market has only existed for 100 years and it has already ruined the economy once and put a huge dent in the economy a second time, this will be the third catastrophe and probably the biggest.

>>17664984
Yeah but if he actually fulfilled his campaign promises then he would be an anti-Semite. He was always a Jew puppet. He tricked us. Me anyways.

T. Was a maga nigger 2015-2016

>>17664655
He's not wrong.

>>17665759
Based
About time someone put these faggot ass panicers in their place.

>>17666659
At least you have the 3 brain cells needed to realize he lied to everyone's face

>>17665285
x20 of nothing is still nothing you fucking retard

>>17664864
>>17664752
>kills 1% on a locked down cruise ship incubator (all old people)
>"20x DEADLIER THAN THE FLU GUY'SE !!!!"

>>17664712
>bernie bro
remember that contrary to expectations, newly installed communist regimes *always* executes the very same ppl who brought them into power.
the more you know.

>>17666547
Yeah - the are going to be pissed; until the story is spun as "we contained the virus with extreme measures, thus prevented its devastation."

Then the media will just find another target to prop up on the pedestal and make you forget about it. Remember how mad people were about Epstein? Just because the masses were angry doesn't mean anything was done...just wait it out until the next marketable outrage and move on.

Current internet landscape is dominated by fear and controversy. Until people wake up to realize that there's always a new outrage every month that makes them forget about the previous one, it'll just keep going.

>>17666655
This is why you diversify and why I specifically suggested not putting your eggs in one basket but rather to budget your savings according to how much risk you're planning to take. Historically, even when we have huge market shakeups, we've rebounded. I'm willing to place some bets on historical situations similar to this; if you're young then it's much more likely that the markets will recover within your lifetime.

If markets crash and burn long enough to not - then "making money" is a moot endeavor considering we'd probably have destroyed the fiat system after such a long run of instability. By that point, I'd hope you've stockpiled gold to replace the monopoly money you were holding. You'd already be ahead of the game compared to most other people, and have a head start at launching your financial success in whatever form the new economy takes on.

>>17665235
>Saudi Arabia and Russia are just using the panic as an opportunity to kill the petroldollar, something they've wanted to do for a very long time but haven't really found a safe opportunity to capitalize on

Why would Saudi Arabia want to take down the petrol dollar? They have the US Military on speed dial.

>>17664743
Noble lie, gotta keep people from panicking.

>>17664917
Because he and China just came to a trade agreement which had calmed the markets, and he was too afraid of upsetting that. Aka he got played

>>17666824
>Why would Saudi Arabia want to take down the petrol dollar? They have the US Military on speed dial.

Yep, Saudi and Israel's existence is dependent on US Dollar.

>>17664712
>being a berniebro

mums basement and tendies are for her, not you

>>17664655
He's definitely coming unhinged.
>oil fucking melts down to an extent that hasn't been seen in 40 years
>durrr gas prices
>fake news
I'd feel sort of bad if 1) I wasn't almost completely protected from this market downturn thanks to god tier risk management on my end and 2) if the U.S. wasn't full of so many people that completely deserve economic devastation.

>>17666450
>he doesn't know zion don got his wealth from daddy
>he doesn't know donnie let's jews handle his money and he's not a financial wizard
>he doesn't know donnie lost $1 Billion over the course of a decade whenever he touched his money
>he doesn't know donnie's whole career is lying out his ass hoping retards like you fall for the con

>>17666927
>>oil fucking melts down to an extent that hasn't been seen in 40 years
>>durrr gas prices
1) the Saudis did this themselves
2) yes that means cheaper gas

problem?

>>17664655
He's ultimately right, people are fucking hysterical right now and currently panic selling like WW3 was just announced.
You can be pretty sure (((important))) people are shorting while pumping FUD in the press.

It's not a nothinburger but the chronology of events is pretty fucking convenient for a lot of people.
Bezos sold billions worth of share few months ago for example.

>I am a genius which is why the economy is doing so great! I practically AM the economy!
>NO NO THIS IS DUE FAKE NEWS(tm) AND COMMIES ALSO DONT WORRY ABOUT DYING BRAH GET BACK IN THE CAGE REMEMBER TO MAGA

>>17666808
Making money wasn’t moot during the Great Depression, it’s just most people were living paycheck to paycheck and investing was a fantasy idea. If you have the luxury to invest now, chances are you will not in an extreme crisis, and will wind up needing to dissolve all of your holdings... which then begs the question. Do you do it now and preemptively strike but in the face of catastrophe be way better off, or do you try to wait it out and hope there’s a swift rebound and you never meet the moment that you can no longer put food on the table? There is risk involved in both scenarios and currently the risk of leaving money in the market is a lot higher than it has been in the last 90 years or so.

>>17664655
reminder that this absolute retard can be compared to Hoover in 1929.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2019/06/04/trump-is-making-the-same-trade-mistake-that-started-the-great-depression/#7170f3944beb

>>17666945
And yet he still remains teflon don.

>>17664864
>implying
His strongest worshippers is a literal cult. Just look at /ptg/ celebrating his tweets as a part of the great plan to btfo Jews and make all white people rich and the wall coming.

>>17666945
damn I never knew it was that easy to become a billionaire and the president of the most powerful nation on earth, even a drooling retard like drumpf can do it!

>>17667063
Is that you, Kurgman? Go shill your retarded predictions on plebbit.

>>17667063
#knew
https://www.americanbullion.com/is-trump-the-modern-herbert-hoover/

>>17666824
https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-a-petrodollar-3306358
>In late 2017, China announced that it considered moving to price oil in the yuan. Because it is the world's biggest importer of oil, China saw it as a logical shift to price the world's most important commodity.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/petrodollars.asp
>The United States uses the power of petrodollars to enforce its foreign policy. But many countries don’t fight back. They are afraid it would mean the collapse of the petrodollar.

>For example, the United States sanctioned Iran for refusing to halt its development of potential nuclear weapons. Similarly, it hit Russia with trade embargoes for invading Crimea and creating a crisis in Ukraine. As a result, these countries signed a five-year trade deal with each other that is worth $20 billion. Critically, it is not priced in dollars, and it includes the sale of Iran's oil.

The US is most likely being priced out, in same way, by Russia and China. Other word powers have essentially been trying to break the petroldollar for a while now, and they almost certainly have been in contact with the Saudis for proposed deals. Creating an oil conflict and then resolving with "Russia and China now control oil prices, Russia will give us protection" is a pretty good exchange if you've lost confidence in the US economy and want to jump ship.

There are a variety of other possibilities, but it'd be foolish of me to claim I know for sure WHY they'd do it. I just know that oil has been a hot conflict zone between super powers for the entirety of the 2000's thus far, and we've kinda been overdue for some massive tipping point like that. It may even end with Saudia Arabia not taking Russia/China's proposal and switching back, taking the "monkey hanging from a branch" approach to the situation. Can swing to a new branch, or stay on what they've got, but they don't have to commit to either action just yet until they have more info on what's best.

>>17667091
read this >>17667092 you low iq trumptard

>>17664712
Bernie lost get over it

>>17667068
>>17667088
Because there are rubes like you who lap up whatever he shits out. Falling for the con isn't something to be proud of.

>>17665511
>halfch
I thought it was 8cuck /v/ and /pol/ who loved saying that when they didn't use cuck ch.
Then again, both cancer came from the same source.

>>17667116
>the economy will crash
>anytime now

We would be at 30k plus if it weren't for Coronavirus. So long as Trump is in charge, there will be no recession. I don't need to read some nevertrumper's anal rage to know a few basic things about the economy.

>>17667142
>We would be at 30k plus if it weren't for Coronavirus
no we wouldn't, that's what you dont understand retard

>>17667088
You can't use jew pics to defend him

>>17667141
You are the cancer commie . Gtfo

>>17667029
>>17667063
>>17667069
>>17667092
>>17667116
>>17667127
kek kys leftypol, trump is the greatest thing to ever happen to the U.S. economy, doesn't matter that he's rothschilds agent. Communism/Socialism will never happen here also NO REFUNDS again

>>17664864
Weird how the death rate doesn’t reflect this whatsoever. It’s almost like A. You’re a retard, or B. You’re a shill.

I’m starting to believe there are organized panic fomenters. It’s exactly what capslock anon said: this is an excuse to self destruct an inevitably imploding economy.

>>17667216
i'm not a communist you fucking retard. jesus trumpfags are so fucking dumb

>>17667165
>no we wouldn't

Whatever makes you happy, even if its fantasies of recession. Meanwhile, I'm buying the dip.

>>17665196
I know you are actually mentally challenged so I'll try to make this easy for you. The absolute numbers (total killed people in your 90 IQ vocabulary) are smaller because Corona didn't have time to spread like the flu. Can you comprehend that amigo? It's literally a fresh virus out of the laboratory, give it time, I won't explain exponential growth to a brainlet like you. Enjoy seeing your mommy croak cause she won't be able to get inside an ICU.

>>17667213
>>17667216
Stay mad 8cucks, know why /leftypol/ did so well there? Because they were surrounded by retards like you tribalniggers. You're LITERALLY the same strain of cancer.

>>17667260
>it'll back to 30k tomorrow!
Enjoy catching falling knives boomer

>>17667260
yeah please buy all the dips

>>17667278
Tick tock boomer
https://incendar.com/baby_boomer_deathclock.php
Also the virus mostly kills boomers

>>17667244
>hurr durr why isn't the absolute number of deaths of a new virus the same as one that existed for centuries
RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT

>>17667192
And yet the media, deep state, and kike owned hollywood want him gone.

>>17667107
The thing is that the regime would be toppled by the CIA/Mossad in Saudi Arabia if they ever try to pull it off.
The other aspect is that SA is in a duel with Iran (which is much stronger in every aspect but oil reserves) for the regional/islamic hegemony and without american guns they can't enforce shit anymore.

Empires take time to fall, the US are arguably in decline but nowhere near enough for client states to turncoat yet.
The real geopolitical danger for americans is Russia and Western Europe converging as an Eurasian axis and drifting away from atlanticism.

>>17666450
You don't have to be a commie to dislike the president you fucking cultist. The entire point of the American political system and constitution is to be able to criticize politicians you fucking degenerate.

>>17667341
Based 15 year old reddiddkun migrant btfo his benefactors.

>>17664712
Boomers are going to vote for Biden.

>>17666659
I agree he has failed horribly and is now doing things directly opposed to his campaign promises. However, I'm not entirely sure whether that was the plan all along though. I think it was more he set out with some good intentions and a big ego and then schlomo informed him that he either plays ball or FBI/NY State will throw his family members in jail and ruin him financially a la many of trump's early advisors and trump capitulated completely.

>>17665153
fucking retard or russian shill?

>>17667350
He said rate

reminder that everyone talking shit about trump ITT is a traitor to the republic. you've been officially outed. you are now legally required to tell us who employs you. if you do not comply, you will be indicted to espionage and informational terrorism. this thread is being monitored right now and your identities are being tracked.

>>17667369
Thanks for the daily dose of hasbara.

>>17665611
Ironic karma is the best type of karma. Prove me wrong.

>>17667426
>everyone i don't like is russian

>>17667062
This isn't a poor assessment, it depends on where your personal stakes lie. If you want to pull out of the market, the best way would be in physical assets - precious metals like gold/silver/platinum, etc. If you're really worried about the markets crashing, burning, and never recovering, then that's a safer bet than pulling out and bagholding monopoly money that will be worthless post crash.

So that falls into my suggestion. Everyone's situation is different, and everyone will have different outlooks on the future. None of us know for certain, if we did then getting rich would be pathetically easy. We can only take educated guesses based on historical data contextualized to modern scenarios.

So if your assumption is that everything will crash and burn, you're not really looking to "make" money, you're looking to store the value of your current holdings somewhere that it will be safe post-crash. So put more into gold, less into stocks/housing/crypto. But it'd be foolish to entirely dismiss the possibility of the markets recovering and dumping all funds exclusively into physical assets. Always diversify and you'll end up on top. Being greedy and putting it all into one sector is just asking for a disaster if you made the wrong call. But spreading your wealth across multiple sectors ensures that even if everything goes to shit, you have something to hold onto and put you ahead of those who didn't.

tl;dr - you're not wrong, friendo. Just have a set perception on where you think things would head, so your investment porfolio will be biased towards that scenario compared to mine. Your analysis is valid, but neither of us know for certain how this will turn out so just plan according to how risky you want to play the game. Making money isn't easy, but inaction in the face of opportunity is a surefire way to miss out.

>>17664655
So many people are going to die because of this deranged fuck. He should be tried for treason and dealt with accordingly.

>>17667432
Then he's even more retarded.

>>17667433
>you are now legally required to tell us who employs you.
The United States military. Have fun, faggot.

he just mad he got corona'd
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/donald-trump-coronavirus-handshake-matt-schlapp-event-a4381872.html
straight up from china, bitch !

>NO NO NO. STOP KILLING PEOPLE, CORONA-CHAN. WAIT UNTIL AFTER MY REELECTION!

>>17667433
Trump is a jewish lapdog. Fuck your republic. Nuke Israel and USA.

>>17667503
is trump quarantined too ?
cause he gave a handshake to the same person lol
and so did many top republicans
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/09/ted-cruz-coronavirus-self-quarantine-cpac

>>17667426
WE GOT HIM ON THE ROPES
YOUR DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN IS AT AN END VLADIMIR
MUELLER WILL BE BACK FOR ROUND TWO
OVER SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND SEALED INDICTMENTS AND COUNTING
I TAKE NO PLEASURE IN REPORTING THIS BUT TRAITORS TO THE REPUBLIC WILL BE EXECUTED FOR TREASON
ITS TIME TO BRING DECENCY AND KINDNESS BACK INTO THE WHITE HOUSE

-KAREN

>>17667521
Post wrist you NEET faggot

>>17667473
dilate

>>17667473
now imagine how many people are going to die because they cant afford healthcare lmoa
>noooo but thats commie shit nooooooo you cant just have basic amenities like a 1st world country

>>17665153
based retard

>>17667503
>trump will die
>anytime now

being a liberal in modern age must be suffering

>>17667062
>>17667463

Actually, final word of advice:

For every position you hold, there are very smart rivals with a lot of capital that hold the opposing position. This stuff isn't in a vacuum, you're playing a game against real people, some of which are very smart and have the resources to skew the win into their favor. Even if you're right on the money, someone somewhere won't go down without a fight and will try tooth and nail to move the economy in their favor.

They may not be successful, but in the event that they are you've lost if you only play the game under a single win condition. So create multiple paths for success, so you can pivot into whatever ends up on top.

You seem like a very smart anon, so I'm sure you'll be fine. Keep yourself safe, keep vigilant, and prepare for the upcoming roller coaster. You're going to make it, anon.

>>17667371
Don't even bother - amerilards treat politics like sports teams.

>>17664655
THE STUPID FUCKING BOOMER HAS LOST HIS MARBLES

>>17664712

>>17665282
Yep. Economy and market fall was the only way to beat Trump. And whaddya know, there it is.

>>17667686
Unfortunately this is the truth. There are a few of us who don't fall for the bipartisan meme, but not many.

>>17666150
>> Assuming Trump is a competent businessman
Said the failure of a man on /biz/

>>17666622
Ok I'll vote for him in your place. Virus is a nothingburger

>>17667789
yeah but the stock market is a bubble

Just megadose on vitamins C and D three times every day. Doubt you will catch it. I just came from China and Cambodia and didn't catch it

>>17667816
>stock market is a bubbl
correct. Doesn't make the coronavirus a big deal though. Because it's not.

>>17667816
It is, but it isn't bursting anytime soon. Maybe in 10-15 years from now.

>>17667720
You're saying the Chinese did this to get rid of Trump?

>>17667369
Correct, that's why I don't think they've made their decision yet. Taking the monkey branch approach means they can muddy the waters a bit and see how everyone reacts, then go with what they think is the best choice. They can always apologize and revisit the table with America as this blows over. They aren't just fucking with the oil out of the blue - they have the perfect scapegoat in the form of Covid19. An opportunity like this doesn't come often, so capitalizing on it is a smart move. If they still want to keep the petrodollar status quo, they can fall back on "we really needed to make up for the blow we took from China's absence in the market" and get a slap on the wrist. But right now, they've laid their cards on the table and are watching to see what Russia, China, and America's next move is before proceeding forward.

I could be wrong though. That's just my thoughts on it. The fact is, Saudi Arabia definitely pulled some shady shit - and we don't fully know the reason behind it. If they were happy with the status quo, they could have waited it out. But they made a risky move in a time where the repercussions can be shielded by plausible deniability, in a sense. I think there's something to that.

>>17667883
No, the way the story is presented by popular media outlets and the outsized market reaction is to take out trump

>>17667720
> Chinkers eating bats and getting a tummy ache is Trump's fault
???
If anything we need to move their manufacturing back to America so we can continue business as usual. They clearly don't have the American iron gut

>>17664718
Orange man bad!

>>17664674
fpbp

>>17667942
>Saudi Arabia definitely pulled some shady shit
Can we like maybe invade this country and fuck their shit up? They literally do nothing but cause problems for the western world

>>17668003
>If anything we need to move their manufacturing back to America so we can continue business as usual.

That kinda sounds anti-globalism..thus it borders on anti-semitism. This is what Nazis say.

>>17664655
That nigga cray>>17664825

>>17665759
my thoughts exactly
coronachan its just a meme
It will pass like other fads like avian flu, swine flu, etc

>>17667618
> trump is god
> he can't die
imagine the level of retardation

>>17668136
> trump isn't god
> he can die
imagine the level of retardation

>>17666450
>trump isnt the most clueless lost idiot to ever get elected
>everyone else is!

>>17664864
And trump supporters will Never turn
Not even if their children die
They are in the quintessential cult of personality.

>>17665153
Lol holy shit. Trump people literally will fall for anything.
Kind of funny to watch.

>>17667870
>It's definitely a bubble that's gonna burst, but I will make money before it does
unironic sell signal

>>17666166
The general symptoms are closer to pneumonia than anything else. It hardly seems be “mild” even in young people.

The panic isn’t from think the world is going to die, it’s realizing that this illness sucks ass to get and no one wants to get it. Plus if you love your parents no one wants them to get hurt either. People are smart to be wary of a new virus that we have no clue about

>>17668007
His name's Mango, not "orange man", bud.

>>17668002
How would that interest investors? They're losing money just to hurt his presidency?

>>17664655
>be "good economy" president
>economy crashes due to things out of his control
He's in denial, I hope he wakes up

>>17666764
nigger deadlier talks about once you get it. those just diddnt get infected. it is 20 times as deadly as flu but less easy to catch

>>17664674
>He never had it to begin with
To the man who flew around in his own custom Boeing 757 before upgrading to Air Force One, and who owns high value real estate all over the world.

>>17668136
>trump
>dying
>ever

Prep for Trump 2024.

>>17667244
Goddamn you're fucking retarded. Do you think northern Italy is just quarantining itself for a fucking case of the sniffles? Do you think the Chinese quarantined 700 million and welded people indoors for a mere flu? Get your head out of your ass schizo. I voted Trump in 2016, and continued to support him until this shit. The retarded thing is, he actually had a great opportunity to showcase his abilities as a leader, and to tackle this thing head on. Instead he's piling it under a rug and pretending it doesn't exist.

BTW, corona infected patients with comorbidities like diabetes and CVD are gonna fare far worse. Guess what percent of the US that is? Just fucking lol kiddo.

>>17664655
None of this matters his re-election is guaranteed and commie faggot shills will deal.

>>17669357
>trust me goy I voted trump in 2016

>>17667360
They don't want him gone. If they did, they would give him the Ron Paul/Bernie treatment. Don't be disingenuous.

>>17667433
Shut up you brainwashed old fart.

>>17664655
Yeah, he is.
Short the West, Long SUTER

>>17664655
You need help and you need it fast.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

>>17665930
nico bully gf

IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER. Don't you people get it? There WILL NOT be an election in November. This is it. I hope you're ready.

>>17664655
The chinks got him with this one..

>>17664712
No refunds, faggot. Thanks for funding my guest house on the lake.

KEEP AMERICA GREAT

>>17664655
He is the biggest liar in US presidental history. You cannot trust a word he says.

>>17669357
>Do you think northern Italy is just quarantining itself for a fucking case of the sniffles?

Italy is known for its culture of close contact. Long hugs and kisses for greetings with strangers gives the virus a perfect pathway into infecting the population. With the lack of a vaccine, the best way to contain the virus in culture like this is to enforce quarantine. You can't trust people to stop kissing and hugging just because you wanted against it, nor can you trust them to not travel with the assumption that they're healthy and risk putting Italy in a bad spotlight on the world stage for not putting an effort in.

>Do you think the Chinese quarantined 700 million and welded people indoors for a mere flu?

China enforcing police state isn't really surprising. Take note that China, as ground zero, was working on less information and prep than everyone else. At the start of the epidemic, they really had no clue just how serious it may develop. Confirmed deaths were way higher than recovery (duh - it takes hours to die from something but at least a week to recover) and they had already been slammed before for their poor reaction to previous diseases like Bird Flu.

You're talking about a country that gives zero shits about "disappearing" you for calling their leader Winnie The Pooh, do you think the forces in power are going to take a lax approach to protecting themselves at any and all costs? Now we have more information on the virus, but information was fare scarce back then and could have potentially gone either way at that early point.


So now that we have more information, let's take a look at the data. 80,740 sounds like a large number on paper, but China has a population of 1,386,000,000.

So we're looking at 0.006% of the total population of China confirmed infected from a virus that's been spreading since around November. Out of that number, 72.75% have recovered. Most unrecoverd cases are in stable condition.

>>17665110
His last shebang before he kicks it. It's all about the Trump brand > America.>>17665153
If you believe his bullshit, we have a bridge to sell you.

>>17665153
Russian bot detected.

>>17664718
Kind of. The flu has a lower transmission rate and a much lower mortality rate.

>>17670080
>But China is faking their numbers!

To an extent, I do believe this to be true. But not to the point of fabricating a tale completely divorced from reality. Now that we have numbers from other countries around the world, we're getting a clearer picture. So if you don't trust China's numbers, feel free to look at other countries. Take their culture, sanitation standards, total population, and wealth into account when trying to understand their numbers - no two countries are the same. But the general theme these numbers give off is:

>Virus has been spreading undetected under our noses for quite some time.
See Italy - numbers only skyrocket seemingly overnight because widespread testing begins and reveals that there are a lot of carriers that were walking around unconfirmed.

>Virus isn't really deadly
In every country, we're seeing recoveries vastly outnumber mortality. Some countries are testing more than others, and their numbers mimic the early low-sample size of China's back in January. But with each passing day we see confirmed recoveries outperforming mortality, even despite strict prerequisites for testing in many countries.

>Elderly are fucked but most other demographics are fine
No escaping this one really. Elderly are inherently more susceptible to falling from an illness than any other age group. This is unfortunate, but not surprising nor really a reason to panic. They'd drop like flies at similar rates if the entire elderly population lacked the flu vaccine. Without a vaccine, the only way to protect the elderly is to quarantine so that they are isolated from carriers of the virus. Hence, mass quarantine is an appropriate response for any country that cares about their elderly population. We don't quarantine for the flu because we push vaccinations onto the elderly every year for it. We don't have that luxury right now, so they're at risk if they come into contact with someone who's young enough to only experience a slight cough.

>>17670080
Virus is going to kill Trump's base. He's too scared to pump testing so that you can actually give proper advisories for the at risk groups where corona is spreading. Yeah for people under 50 it's not gonna be a big deal, but boomers are going to start getting fucked because they don't know when to start isolating themselves.

>>17664913
you didn't disprove a single thing idiot

>>17666150
Trump is a con man masquerading as a successful business man

>>17665115
I gave him my v card

>>17666344
Trump is a con. You are getting conned. You fell for his bullshit. Lol

>>17670353
The flu has what Covid19 does not - a vaccine. People like to dunk on antivaxxers for their stupidity and yet fail to take into account just how important vaccines are at preventing the spread and severity of diseases.

Of course it has a lower transition and mortality rate - otherwise our vaccines are fucking pointless.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm

>during 2017-2018, flu vaccination prevented an estimated 6.2 million influenza illnesses, 3.2 million influenza-associated medical visits, 91,000 influenza-associated hospitalizations, and 5,700 influenza-associated deaths.

Corona-chan barely makes a dent in those numbers. Granted, it's over the period of a year, but considering the flu is seasonal we can safely assume that they're almost comparable with one another.

So if we had a vaccine for Covid19, it's not unlikely that its numbers would level out with influenza.

>>17670571
Eh, I don't thjink that's why he's scared of testing. I think he's scared of testing because he's trying his best to keep the stock market under control for his election. He's assuming (probably rightfully so) that when the weather warms up, the virus will spread significantly less. So with spring around the corner, if he buys enough time he can probably say "See, we have the best health standards in the world. We prevented the spread of this disease hugely, and the country has never been safer! With an infection rate lower than any other confirmed country in the world, we truly have kept America great!" etc. etc.

If he was worried about his voter base falling like flies (remember - even though they're more at risk it doesn't mean they're dying left and right. 14% mortality is still less than a quarter of confirmed infected within the age group) I'd assume he'd actually push for mass quarantine to protect them. I think he's gambling on sacrificing a very small percentage of his voter base for a stronger footing in 2020 debates.

>>17669357
>BTW, corona infected patients with comorbidities like diabetes and CVD are gonna fare far worse. Guess what percent of the US that is?
Nice!
A virus targeting fat fucks!
Coronachan will Make America Great Again!

>>17667473
dilate more

>>17671007
This

>>17670749
Still seething? 4 more years confirmed

>>17664674
fpbp, trump tards just saw what they wanted to see. DNC also ran the worst candidate and plans to again.

>>17664917
>>17664917
Implying the commies wouldn't sneak that shit in anyway. If you are gonna suffer a pandemic everyone gets to suffer a pandemic.

>>17664712
Bernie is going to suck on Bidens balls by the end of this thing, mark my words faggot

Trump is so fucking cringe.
I want the wall built but now I kind of hope Biden wins desu.

>>17665153
jesus christ...
it really is a war between retards who think trump does everything right, and cunts who think trump does everything wrong.

CENTRISTS MOVEMENT NOW
FUCK POLLY TISHINS!!

>>17670653
Yep.

Zion Don fucks everything up again.

>>17671322
Who pays you think tank shills? You should get a pay cut because you suck at your job

>>17664655
Losing what? This is what he's been doing the whole time.

>>17672301
You are low IQ.

>>17664674
Feels like I'm on twitter.

>>17672436
Maybe you should go back there, social media fag.

>>17665235
The German Virologist who co-discovered the original SARS virus believes the worst has yet to come, and that the peak will be June-August. Now would be a good time for Trump to play into the media, because it's not gonna be done with soon. Sometimes playing their game for your benefit is the smartest decision. Competence is the only way to try and put the market in stasis until this has blown over

Annual deaths from flu are 4k-30k, of those only about 100 are people that aren't on deaths door already, of THOSE 100, 90% are bottle-fed infants (no milkies = shit immune system)

And this is out of 40,000,000 annual infections

Anyone conflating corona-chan with seasonal flu is a smooth brain

>>17672463
What was the point of this post, dude. I'm fucking denouncing the posting quality.

>>17665759
>it's just the flu bro!
Reasonal flu mortality rate is 0.05% +/- 0.04%, kills so few healthy people it's essentially 0% for them, and even for the sickly the rate is still so low it must be estimated statistically years after the fact by 'abnormal' death rates among that cohort. Corona-chan's mortality rate on the other hand (even using massaged chicom numbers) is 0.2%-15%. SARS-CoV-2 literally has a higher mortality rate among the young and healthy than flu has amount the sick and elderly.

Remember, 40 MILLION US flu inflections/year, when (not if) corona-chan starts hitting those numbers, even a 1.0% mortality rate means hundreds of thousands dead.

Day of the Pillow draws near, get hype

>>17666166
>Without widespread vaccination of the flu virus, it'd be just as deadly to boomers
'no'

Stupid zoomer, flu vaccine is pretty new

>>17664674
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>>17672604
>>17673727
Vaccine + larger sample size to lower the mortality due to more complete scope of information.

>>17673829
>flu vaccine is pretty new
Are we speaking in relative terms or what? Last I checked, the vaccine was created back in the 30's. Even if you were a boomer, the vaccine was literally invented before you were even born.

You know what's "pretty new?" The data you're reading.Data that's too new to not be biased towards mortality rate. Because it takes less than a day to die from an illness, and your death has a much higher chance of being investigated. Conversely, it can take a week or more to recover from a virus, and there's grater chance your illness will not be investigated and make it into the statistics, especially when dealing with limited resources on such a small time scale.

It's a painfully naive and elementary mistake to assume that the mortality rate with proportionately scale with infection considering we don't have a solid estimate established yet.

Reading data may not be your strong suit. It's not enough to just look at numbers, you also need to contextualize it to make full sense of what's going on.

>>17670513
>we're seeing recoveries vastly outnumber mortality
Holy shit you're a fucking retard. 1-3% CFR for a virus that spreads like the common cold is OH FUCK OH FUCK OH SHIT FUCK bad

>>17664743
he wrote about this technique in the art of the deal

>>17674087
Smooth brain.

By the CDC's own numbers flu vaccines only prevent ~6k flu deaths/year. Without the flu vaccine flu mortality barely budges ~21.5k versus 19k (10-33k without vaccine 4-27k with) and mortality rate doesn't fall AT ALL

You are a delusional fucking retard