/biz/ - Business & Finance

Been pondering business cycle theory lately, could somebody give me input on this

Seems to me that in order to press interest rates below their natural rate, only a constant percent increase in credit is necessary, which means that a moderate manipulation of stock prices should potentially be permanent and not lead to either hyperinflation or a recession (e.g. a permanent 1% per year increase in total moneys, suppressing interest rates by 0.5%)

Other than Fed incompetence, then, what systematic forces are at play actually causing booms and busts instead of simply a continuous, slow theft of our assets?


Is it the Fed reacting to any small downturn with a sharp and temporary cut of rates? Or is it simply that Fed monetary policy funnels itself primarily into meme fad stocks and is used politically rather than economically (which would lower the general expected rate of profit in the economy vis-a-vis the interest rate)?

Couldn't the Fed just orchestrate things so that stable businesses could operate at lower levels of interest permanently, funded by our liquidated labours?

>>17659460
SPY down 7.2% pre-market.....

damn namefag lingered for some reason.
anyway who here 3/13 SPY 285p gang?

Yo!

TQQQ has negative cash balance as of today. Boutta get liquidated

Kali Yuga

Go Green
fuck a vegetarian

Watching some jap on foreign news saying we're in for a -%20 correction globally

>>17659460
My IRA...

>>17659465
>Seems to me that in order to press interest rates below their natural rate
Your promise is off. The Fed moved on rates because the markets told them to; it's the tail that wags the dog.

I want to buy more puts on open but I don't want to get fucked by some bullshit pump I'm so conflicted.

Gonna be rich. Been building up cash for a year, time to drip it in.

On the plus side, when the economy collapses and worldwide economic output craters, Greta and the environmental gang will finally get what they want. AND you'll have cheap fuel to keep you warm in the cold winters.

What to buy into when we hit rock bottom?

>>17659500
*premise

>>17659460

>>17659501
Wait for lunchtime bulltrap

>>17659508
KO
GOOGL
SNE
AMD

>>17659488
Checked. RIDE IT

>>17659501
Same thought process im going through. Not sure if we get a first bit of pump then continue to dump. Might just try a few deep in the money puts on spy or something at 11am.

>>17659508
identifying where rock bottom will be more important than what you buy. good luck timing it.

How fucked am I? I bought the TQQQ hoping for a monday pump like last week. I've also go 30K in cash

Reminder to buy the dip and that dividends are you friends.

dow to 3000 eow

WE HIT THE BOTTOM BROS! BUY BUY BUY

>>17659501
Everytime index futures have gone limit down I have bought and I have never lost money in many years. Buying puts on open would be a mistake

>>17659465
So basically fascism? I guess you would be giving a small group of people the ability to pick losers and winners, which in the long term leads to monopolies. It goes against everything free-market capitalism stands for.

>>17659520
DELET NOW

Thread theme:

https://youtu.be/o5fXhoxJqQQ

Preppers were right in the end, literally the only way to survive this if you stacked up on food and medcine for years

>AMD 12% down
Holy fuck. Thank FED for letting me dump my bags on Friday

>>17659465
Interest rates on all loans would have to be mandated for this to turn out to have some sort of easement. Meaning banks may fail left and right.

There is no good outcome to this realistically as the Fed clearly does not seem to see or understand the implications of it's short term decisions. They only make the long term harder for themselves. I think realistically the world govs may just trash the old currency and make a world currency under the guise of "it will work this time, trust me haha". There is no good end to this unless thousands of people die, justice is restored, and governments shrink.

>>17659540
This is far from the bottom

>>17659540
I've been up all night watching the Euro and Asian markets. Top kek. Something fucking awful is going to happen to society this week.

>>17659557
they're called "hard assets"
things that will have value if money itself disappeared.

It's nothing. Don't care, not prepping, not selling.

>>17659537
>How fucked am I? I bought the TQQQ hoping for a monday pump like last week. I've also go 30K in cash
As of the drop last night TQQQ is about -7% cash balance. The ETF stands a good chance of getting liquidated today. You are fucked

>>17659480
I'm expiring today 300 SPY and 3/16 280 gang senpai

dont worry guys the fed got this, by amplifying more female black leaders

>>17659586
God damn some TQQQ puts sound like a good idea then

>>17659563
Interest rates would have to be mandated as negative on all loans.*

are we halting trading today? futures look pretty dope.

are we in "BIBLICAL" territory now?

>>17659543
You very clearly haven't bought in the last month or you most definitely lost money.

DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPF!!!!!!!

>It's nothing. Don't care, not prepping, not selling.

>>17659610
I still think the Feds are going to shoot their last load in an attempt to slow the crash, then the real drop will happen

>even lower interest rates
>historically low fuel prices

bros it's going to crash but anyone with cash after today will be able to buy up the top companies for fire sale prices
I'm going to wait until after the massacre, buy some of the normal stuff then start looking at houses lol

>>17659610
its been biblical for about 10 days now fella where have you been

>>17659614
Index futures have only gone limit down 3 times since 2015. I started trading futures quite a few years before then and I have always bought when the indexes went limit down and have never lost money. Do not short today.

>Bloomberg's feed is on a holding pattern because everyone in the studio killed themselves.

>imagine not buying the dip

>>17659460
how bad guys? i don't really understand financial stuff

Bought the dip for dividends. Planned on some shorts following weeks. Find out I dont have margin account.

Bros we're all gonna make it but I'm gonna be a little late to the party.

>>17659651
it's very good. BUY THE FUCKING DIP

>>17659651
this is good.

>rules have been laid out for trading before market open
>trading will be halted for the rest of the day if people even think about selling and causing a 20% drop
Jesus christ they just locked us in for a bloodbath and its not even 9AM yet

>>17659651
9 bads out of 10

>>17659540
Russians and Saudis are crashing global market with no survivors.

That shit on it self would do -1000 dow, but now we have it and Corona

>S- STOP SELLING

>>17659646
>Imagine thinking this is the bottom

>>17659651

>>17659651
basically money will cease to exist, the world is turning into a mad max tier shithole

>>17659651
Bitcoin in November 2018 bad

>>17659665
Just make sure to sell before the bounce back ends

>>17659668
The fed pump will make a -20% drop impossible

SELL EVERYTHING

>>17659666
POST YOUR LOSSES TRIPDEVIL. WE KNOW YOU WENT LONG ON OIL

Can’t decide whether to buy more DAL and JBLU airline dip today or in a week. As soon as we hit bottom I want everything. Already bought 30 shares last week.

Expecting a crash today, cat bounce tomorrow, and a further fall on Wednesday.

Imagine having bought the dip last week

Do you guys actually see this as a dip? Do you not see that this market is overdue for a correction? The Fed REPO pump, banks dry of liquidity, overvalued P/E ratios and non-existent earnings growth in future projected due to virus shutting down the whole fucking China for a month? The buybacks madness, mass ETF investing through robinhood? How do you see this as sustainable in short term is beyond me, this whole thing is ripe for a collapse. Don't forget about overleveraged as fuck hedge funds that are about to get margin called this very week if this continues.

>>17659704
The bulls were really arrogant last monday, they deserve this

The FED will save it aren't they?

Also
>15 minute halts on 7% drops and 13% drops as well
We're all gonna die. It's just become a race to sell before the circuit breakers go.

I'm scared anons

Are my puts going to be worthless?
Will I be able to sell them now?

>>17659679
>Imagine thinking you can predict the bottom
>Imagine not knowing how to average down and just being an all around retard
Have fun missing the eventual recovery.

>>17659599
This is the kind of thing that happens in decadent society. Things have been so good for so long, that other things take up the “important” role that used to be occupied by things such as wars and recessions. Can’t wait for there to be some actual real world issues to drown out these pathetic “muh slight disenfranchisement ;(“ cucks

>>17659697
it'll just be a 19.9% drop

When will you mumus learn? Stocks only go DOWN!

I'M HERE FOR THE MEMES WHERE THE DANK MEMES AT?

>>17659701
i'ma have to go longer on oil, these are what we like to call cheapies.

SPY DOWN 6,8% IN PREMARKT

>Ahhhhhh only stopped because the circuit breakers triggered
This will be a great day

>bad student debt
>bad auto debt
>bad credit card debt
>bad corporate debt
You niggas really think there won't be a recession? Just wait until these debtors start defaulting.

>>17659718
people that miss the recovery are like people that miss the crash and don't buy puts.
this shit happens over weeks/months/years you realize that right?

>>17659711
They will certainly try

>>17659701
>Baggie goes long on something stable
>It collapses to new lows
Wow

>>17659735
but i want it to go up

>>17659739
Thank you for posting your positions. Shorting Baggy has made me a wealthy man

>>17659718
yeah your image indicates how stupid you are considering it conveniently leaves out the spanish flu. oh but you weren't alive for that event so it doesn't count lol okay retard.

>>17659708
>mass ETF investing
so many cunts have been shilled with the index ETF meme in the last few years

>>17659752
>imagine thinking that all drops are the same

I hope they won't take away electricity and internet until I starve to death

SPY FINNA BREAK OUT IN LAST 30 MINUTES PRE-MARKET!!
LET'S GET BUMPIN!!!

>>17659545
I'm not advocating it, even though it's a good means to fascism. I'm more wondering why that route isn't taken.

>>17659752
Doesn't mean I'm gonna sell. I've got decades long plans for this portfolio. A recession for a few years doesn't scare me. It gives me a cheap price to buy in at.

>>17659738
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

Thread theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwxIGe1oOJQ

>>17659713
Depends on how much time you have. We're going to see a selloff circuit breaker hit and then crab sideways with the exception of fed pumps today. We'll probably resume regular crashing next week.

>>17659781
Capper

AMD has been behaving like a 1.5x SPY lately

>>17659708
only retards think this is a dip and not the house of cards imploding on itself. it was going to happen. but nobody planned for a health crisis, everyone was just cooking the books because they thought they could let the financials run on forever. oh well, the party has just begun.

you fags who want to buy are greedy af, which isn't normally bad but these are not normal circumstances. all you have to do is watch the banks and credit rating agencies' outlook forecasts. they are already saying that Europe is heading into recession and the world is likely to follow. then this oil crisis happens. it might be solved soon, it may not. but we're in a bear market for sure.

>>17659563
I'm not advocating this as policy, I'm just wondering if there's anything inherent in the Fed/monetary expansion itself which requires booms and busts, or if these are a product of particular behaviour of the Fed

>>17659779
learn to greentext you disgusting nigger.
you inability to apply history to present events, to learn, is honestly the biggest indicator of your race.

>>17659748
People default all the time.

The companies just upped their repo games

Before the recession, almost no one foreclosed and almost no one repo'd because they didn't have the people for it and they hadn't seen debt actually go bad at that scale before

Just look at the rate of HELOC lenders. Banks lose a few bucks on a car someone destroyed but makes $100k on a $10k faulted HELOC because someone died or divorced

>>17659806
its called greed.

>>17659770
>A flu in the 1920s when medical care quality was absolute shit and you were more likely to die from infections at the doctor than your actual illness
Guarantee that the death toll to Spanish flu wouldn't have been even a fraction of what it was if they had modern medicine. Next you'll tell me about how many people died from the bubonic plague. Fuck off and buy the dip.

>>17659586
what does it mean when an ETF gets liquidated ?

Dax went from - 8 % to - 5 % to - 7,5 % again. Same gonna happen to Dow?

>>17659460
HOW DO I TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FALL?

I'm looking at TVIX but it looks like I could lose my ass pretty quickly on this one.

>>17659798
>I'm here tryna make money
>No, YOURE GREEDY

Nigga wut

>>17659738
We had them starting last night. Right now its all halted and we just wait another 90 minutes till the world as we know it collapses

>>17659831
No. It's going to dump hard and the circuit breakers are going to get triggered. You will be experiencing history.

>>17659540
>bottom

normal trading hours haven't even started yet today

>>17659476
Can someone please explain who the fuck in their right mind is buying the SPY right now? It's actually bouncing a bit here against all logic....

>>17659828
next you'll tell me you actually have even the smallest bit of knowledge of what the fuck is going, sell the dip retard.

>>17659808
>history
>cites the 2008 crash only and no other dip or crash
>muh greentexts
please tell me you're only pretending

>>17659828
>Guarantee
>source: dude trust me
okay cool story retard. the best medical care in the world doesn't make a difference if you don't have enough of it to treat all the sick people. the virus isn't even the real problem, it's just the prick that burst the bubble. keep deluding yourself though you retarded jackass

>>17659460
How long will the circuit braker last?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K05sxfa4zdM

Damn this guy going hard on China about fabricating numbers

>>17659853
i nibbled on some this morning

>>17659829
>what does it mean when an ETF gets liquidated ?
Everybody's shares go to zero. Google XIV liquidation

I TOLD YOU ALL TO YIELD TO THE 10 YEAR DRAGON

WATER IS GOING TO DRIP WHEN YOU ALL PISS YOURSELVES BECAUSE THE BEAR IS LEAVING ITS CAVE FOREVER

What happened to my dow jones? Did we just go to war or something?

>>17659853
Even if no one buys it, bots will

>>17659846
If you don't know, you're in the wrong place

No one should take anything posted here as fact

Waiting for the fake and gay pump to dump 1k into SQQQ

>>17659798
>it might be solved soon, it may not.
don't sit on the fence bitch. Buy your prediction a diamond ring already

>>17659853
>we’re just blowing off some steam before the next rally!

30 minutes bearniggers

Markets are SPOOKED.

>>17659854
>Buy high sell low
No thanks kuma-cuck

>>17659866
kyle bass is a smart dude, but he was wrong for many years about china's economy and made little money. he's wortyh looking up on youtube

cramer says don't sell, bearish.

>>17659789

Long term investor master class

>>17659831
the no-risk environment of the last decade has created a lot of dumb money, so we might see some artificial algo short squeeze during the day, but we're going down for sure

>>17659828
Most deaths during the Sp*nish flu were due to secondary bacterial infections.

Now guess what the implications of antibacterial resistance in the long term are.

Human history is the story of people failing to understand exponential functions.

>>17659882
>he thinks this is the low
kek

Too late to sell right?

>>17659853
>Against all logic
>Markets fell because of a cold

What are you trying to say, Lassie? Jimmy bought high and sold low?
We already knew that, girl!
Good dog, though, here's a treat

>>17659862
None of that is happening. So your hypothetical means literally nothing. See you when you're happening never happens and you wish you averagef down instead of buying a ton of toilet paper.

>>17659853
Nevermind. Just read a post on an investing chat that they are trying to keep it above -7% until after market open for the first circuit breaker.

Time to short companies in the Permian basin?

>>17659692
You realize people will elect a leader who promises everything, right? It’s a fundamental flaw of voting.

a big market maker in chicago went bust this friday

>>17659782
It's a fundamental change to the American system, and clear departure from whatever's left of capitalism. Outside of that, it could work. I'm not for the over-optimization, or even the optimization, of economic/technological development, to the point where it creates serious imbalances in society. Stability can come first, but with it so does stagnation, or a reduction in the pace of development. Of course, we've seen that NatSoc Germany was not only outpacing the rest of the world in terms of economic recovery, it was also far ahead when it comes to manufacturing and technology. The over-reliance on the philosophy of the "individual" or bottom-up change is seriously hampering the potential of humanity.

>>17659902
please just shut the fuck up you inept retarded cretin you dont understand anything

>>17659902
>None of that is happening
except it is. bulltards are so provincial and unworldly and retarded. read some news dumbass.

>>17659895
>He thinks buy high sell low means sell at THE low and not just lower than you bought
Is somebody taking care of you?

>>17659853
Buying it and selling later today or tomorrow isn't actually a bad idea. We got circuit breaker rules confirmed today and probably have locked in a fed pump. It's free money, bro.

>>17659869
Does that mean everybody who was short that fund got to double their money, then, since there was nothing to buy back to close?

test

This gonna do anything to help?

the thing people dont realize is that what happened in wuhan (people dropping in the streets, dying in hospital corridors) will happen in the usa in 2-3-4 weeks.

>>17659896
That's what Cramer said few mins ago

HERE IT GOES AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17659924
>hes clenching onto his overpriced paper shares instead of sitting in cash or shorting this to the ground
KEK

>>17659914
source?

>>17659933
Based test poster

>>17659914
Happens all the time

What the FUCK is with all the mass panic

>I might get a cold, better stock up on TP and search the internet for people going broke

I have $20k. Is now the time to dump it into buying more stocks for my portfolio and getting some gold?

>>17659892
Not all bacterial prevention is antibacterial drugs. It also involves your doctors washing their fucking hands and using sterile tools and clean bedding. It's not hard to guess that with numbers that high most people died from complications. A lot of it due to shit conditions during the war. It's not comparable at all.

This. This is why you don’t bully the fed. Trump didn’t listen. He didn’t learn. Now he’s going to pay.

>>17659599
I would amplify her in the vagoo, if you know what I'm saying (still wouldn't put her in charge of monetary policy or bank supervision tho).

>>17659861
i'm comparing apples to apples you absolute fuck.
don't know how much you know about how far the global economy has come since 2000 but the market and world has evolved to the point of any comparison to a financial events before then would be like studying a horse and buggy to diagnose a fucking lamborghini.
post positions by the way. (you won't)

>>17659942
Trump said people wouldn't be dying in the streets during his presidency during his debates with Clinton. Are you telling me Trump is a liar?

>>17659942
Except not cuz the bad mutation can't spread fast enough so everyone will get the mild one

Only people with preexisting conditions are at risk

>>17659853

i got VTI

If you niggers kill yourselves remember to live stream it or it didnt happen

>>17659488

>>17659967
Powell knows he won’t be renominates as fed chair. He’s gonna do a scorched earth for the fed. Y-y-you guys didn’t suck the fed dick, and now you’re gonna pay. All of you.

>>17659976
post in here when you capitulate so i know the bottom is in

>>17659960
Wait till the Friday dump then buy airlines and maybe oil if the dinosaur miners have struck an agreement

Otherwise, short vulnerable markets and avoid pharma altogether

>>17659953
>He's losing money to inflation when he could be making money on dividends and averaging in at a new low
Please. Find your helper and tell them you need your diaper changed. You're full of shit.

>>17659975
So 50 % of people in the US?

Cramer
>People have been accusing me of fear mongering for weeks now
>Nah I think I am real mongering

>>17659995
>making money on dividends
Yeah, that'll totally balance things out.

The circuit breakers are going to trigger upon open. It's already at -6.88%.

Wait, what the actual fuck.

We’re going to hit the 15min circuit breaker as soon as we open?

>>17659932
That gets tricky. If the fund gets delisted before you can get out of your short or if there are no shares to buy back then you are stuck in the short and can be royally fucked. There have been instances where people have been stuck in shorts like that for a long time and had to pay interest on the borrowed shares with no way to cover. Be very careful

>>17659967
Wrong.
Trump has been talking about breaking oil and going negative interest rates for years.
Corona will force that to happen.
Trump always gets what he wants.
Trump's curse is real.

when was the last time we hit the 7% breaker at opening?

>>17659940
Nope, law of diminishing returns. Too much of this has been done too many times. An injection big enough to move the needle would kill the USD.

>>17660012
Source?

>>17659958
the mass panic is also manufactured. those in charge all agreed society needed a reset. they want to virus to spread so we can transition into a new financial system

looks like beef's back on the menu

>>17660014
Yes. It's looking like it.

Robinhood just shat the bed.

>>17659575
How do we short them tho? If the worlds gonna burn might as well as make profit.

>>17659917
Well that convinced me. Thanks fag.
Buy the dip.
>>17659922
Mass media has a business model built around panic. If the sky isn't falling nobody watches. I'll take a pass on that one rabi. The scientists are cautious but not panicking. And that's where I'll stay.

>>17659997
The American health Care system is retarded and says everyone who isn't within their strict line of health has a PC

The only people who should even think about changing their habits are oldies and the immunocompromised

>>17659916
Personally, I'm of the opinion that all options are futile. Any artificial constructions of fascistic hierarchies, like those of the 20th century, are ultimately democratic of origin, that is, spawn from the approval of the lowest castes of society, and give the opinions of these people great weight in their formation. That's not to mention the shallowness of any of these revolutions. They're at best stone castles suspended above void by the strength of a sheet of paper.

The ship sailed with the rationalism of the lower castes. It can't be put back, and authentic hierarchies cannot be built above this substructure. We're stuck with hedonism or death camps for the coming few centuries.

Hello, NOOB here.
What is the point of buying the dip and selling just before the Fed forced bump ends if the market crash is pretty much inevitable and any money you acquire off this will be meaningless down the road?
Isn't stopping investing alltogether and instead taking the money away from the banks and investing it in more long term stuff like houses or gold/silver a better way to get through the hard times up ahead?

Market's gonna get suspended today before lunch time.

Holy fucking shit... So many sandwiches bros....

>>17660031
I don't think is was planned, but there's room to talk about societal cycles herein.

>>17660009
It will when the eventual recovery comes. Or do you think the market goes down forever?

>>17660027
Never. It has not happened.

Gonna buy a rack of beef ribs with my put gains today

How are futures down MORE than 7%?

OKAY BOYS 25 MINUTES LEFT.
I AM HERE SITTING ALL IN CASH WITH POPCORN, JUST WATCHING THIS SHITSHOW. WHO'S WITH ME?

>>17659829
You get your money back at the last nav which could be a loss but you don't get zero, for leveraged etf idk tho.

>>17660044
> The scientists are cautious but not panicking. And that's where I'll stay.
when did i ever tell you to panic, retard? i said there is going to be a shortage of medical services which will result in millions of deaths. this is what the scientists say. your image is retarded and you are retarded.

Futures are LOCKED at -5%

Anyone talking about different amounts is memeing

>>17660030
Watching Bloomberg TV but you can get it from anywhere. It's even worse now, instatrigger on open, won't do anything.

JESUS CHRIST

>>17660063
How many years of dividends will it take to make up a 10% further drop?

MMMM that is some spicy movement

20 mins till it's all over

>>17659718
Have fun investing in the biggest debtor nation on earth

>>17660080
What scientists say that?

>>17660059
A real wolf of Wall Street here
Lol go fuck yourself dude

>there are STILL people in denial of this crash
incredible isn't it

Swedish central bank director has corona.

>>17659942
Already happening, saw a video of someone dropping in the streets with a man on in the Bronx

I am ashamed of you anons. Reading defeatism so prevalent in these threads.

If you are in cash, BUY THE FUCKING DIP!!!

If you are invested, DONT FUCKING PANIC SELL!!!

>>17660084
Mfw holding tasty puts on italy

>>17659565
coronachan crushing your balls is just a meme, isn't it? does corona actually damage your balls?

I couldve retired on TVIX this week

>>17660082
What's a website that's more up to date then finviz?

>>17660106
At this point, anybody still buying deserves to lose their money

>>17659586
what happens if you're holding tqqq puts and it goes bust?

>>17660084
It truly is the end

>>17660106
this is always the case tbqh

fuck it, I'm a Bearmissle now

>>17660073
>>17660073
Weedbro fuck off for the love of god

>>17660106
Markets closed up last week. Wtf are you talking about

>>17660087
A year and a half if you buy a 7% div stock

>>17660118
Corona victim here. I can confirm that my balls are in severe pain after catching the virus, every-time i breathe it feels like sharp glass is jammed into my testicles.

Cramer is losing his shit over the virus, this is the best timeline

>>17660112
If you are a boomer, GET YOUR LUNGS CLOGGED!!

If you are a bull, LOSE ALL OF YOUR ASSETS!!

Guys, I was worreid this morning then I saw Real Donald Trump's Twitter account. he is on top of this.

>>17660112
I've been in for three years now. I've had steady hands for deep lows, but this is different. I'm afraid that if I don't sell it'll dip another 10%. Imagine if I sold, it dipped, then I immediately bought back in? So hard bro

Waiter, I'll have the bat soup, please!

>>17660073
LET'S DO THIS

>>17660118
Some inflammation and pain during the infection is possible. But that's the case for many coronaviruses/flus. Permanent impact on fertility is an open question but unlikely.

>>17660123
Open up a TDA account. Real time level II data, news feeds, and CNBC US, EUROPE, and ASIA streaming.

>>17660060
if it wasn't the virus it would be something else. big money was just waiting for a catalyst. also imagine thinking the chinese didn't spread the virus on purpose when they saw their economy would be hit. better take everyone in their fall

>>17660127
That I don't have any experience with. Not trying to be funny but maybe Google what happened to XIV put holders when it went bust since that's the most similar situation

>>17660155
I just want to watch the chaos at work

>>17660148
its still way overvalued

>>17660148
HAHAHA FUCK ELON MUSK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA FUCKING SCAMMER FAGGOT

When we gonna be on 2008-2009 levels of fucked?

>>17660112
This is still the top in the grand scheme of things. Don't invest in the biggest debtor nation ever.

>>17660164
I agree, that's why i'm sitting on $350 puts

I have a 2 hour meeting starting at 2:30. I might ask for it to be pushed back a minute so I can check the opening bloodbath

>>17660118
Here's the original pic from /cvg/ that was edited, with the relevant text and here's the source link. It seems like a strong 'maybe'. The testicles are high in ACE2 receptors and that makes it vulnerable to coronavirus.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022418v1

someone explain the breaker to me

does the 7% breaker kick in after the initial drop from futures. or does it include that drop (in which case it presumably kicks in immediately on open)?

GUYS WHAT HAPPENED TO MY FUCKING CRUDE OIL?

>>17660084
oh fuck keep going Corona-Chan! I'm about to fucking COOM BABY

>>17660073
I've been sitting here since the start of Nikkei, am getting delirious. I've only 'spent' 1k so far today though.

>>17660167
About 17 minutes anon

>>17659995
>his stonkerinos are losing value on top of cash being inflated
imagine being this dumb trying to prove your point only to sound like the biggest cretin alive. lmfao fucking retard.

>>17660174
I presume that if we open above 7% it just moves on to the next stage, that being 13%.

Bloomberg reporting "policy response" from the Jew House in DC. Stand by to man the POOMPS.

I'm ready to buy the dips

>>17660156
I mean, the Korean death cult already did plenty of intentional spread.

PARTY ROCKERS IN THE CAVE TONIGHT
EVERYBODY'S GONNA BEAR BEAR BEAR BEAR TIME WOOOO OOOOHHHH

was going to try investing in stock but didn't just feels good

>>17659460
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17660148
Keque
Long bat soup, short the US

>>17660162
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
>in the OP

or

https://www.bloomberg.com/live

Delete browsing history, cookies, data when it times you out after 30 minutes

>>17660142

>t. Poorfag betting on the complete collapse of the global economic system instead of thisngay shit being forgotten in a year

Just buy cans of beans and keep hitting f5 on zerohedge and fuck off back to retard town

After the crash, I think we should nuke China.

>>17660146
Made me chuckle

>>17660200
Buy when Boomers are killing themselves. You won't want to, but follow that signal.

IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING
IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN

WHO HERE READY FOR BLACK MONDAY 2K20
BUCKLE UP BOYS, T MINUS 14

>Robinhood actually works today
>the NYSE shuts down before noon after hitting the 20% breaker

>>17660116
Teach me the ways of putting against Italy? Is it a direct stock or etf that you have puts against?

The market will bounce back, we'll be green by lunchtime.

>>17660084
Wew, Italy down 11% now

Play of the day... Short GLD.

>>17660223
ironic

Its 1987 gents

>>17660240
gonna stock up on parmesean cheese wheels before it's too late

>>17660224
We should have done that since the Korean war.

>>17660223
>I’m rich!
No you aren’t.

>>17660147
What's fun to imagine is that you can predict the market. Last week we went up like 5% in a single day. Just hold and save money you think you want to invest if you're not confident to just buy the dip. If the stock you're holding is something stable and not just a meme it's not gonna go to zero.

S&P 2500 confirmed

>>17660255
>>17660255

Bulls are still alive?

>>17660237
...And red by 4.

Oh no.
We got too cocky bullbros.

My dad is a friend of Billy O’ Gates

Vaccine will be announced once DOW hits 16,000

Do with this information as you please

TRIP THE BREAKERS

Welp, looks like I'm gonna spend the afternoon applying for bartending gigs

11 minutes until the US is finished.
Screencap this: 1$ is going to be €0.80 in 8 hours time.

ARE WE READY?

BRACE FOR IMPACT

BRACE FOR IMPACT

BRACE FOR IMPACT

BRACE FOR IMPACT

BRACE FOR IMPACT

>>17660200
>FBThot
Goddamn

Anyone here holding BCRX or ALT?

fuck did the summer hour start in ny? markets open in 10 minutes?

PCG puts are about to print me a fortune

>>17660229
i spent all my money at the pub anyway

Everyone ready for the bullrun at open and subsequent dump?

Whats left to play here?

>>17660251
>NO YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL

I thought America was a Free Trade country?

>>17660223
>-7% in a day
>dude it's nothing
genuinely clinically delusional

10 minutes

Pictured: the circuit breaker urgently installed in the NYSE in the early hours of this morning.

>>17660286
Yes

make the next thread a despair thread

>>17660272
John McAfee himself could release a vaccine tomorrow there's no stopping this plunge
trillions of dollars in economic activity stopped plus an oil price war

>>17660251
Party like it's 1987
>pic related I want to fucking smash her so hard

>>17660296
Dow Jones, Inc. is a privet company

>>17660309
>>17660309
>>17660309
>>17660309
>>17660309

New thread

>>17660296
and europe is freefalling -10% without any breaks kek

>>17660286
Yeah. US DST happens earlier than European DST apparently.

>>17660181

Waa waa mong boy?

IM NOT READY

>>17659806
The Fed generally reacts.

Fiat currency did play a part in this but just do your own research. It's better than waiting for a full out answer on here.

NINE
MINUTES

My only regret is that I didn't put my entire savings into DWT. Holy shit. FUCK oil. This is great.

Almost forgot about daylight savings.

Explain to me the premarket, is it just a way for institutional investors to get in and out first on days like this, leaving the plebs to hold the bags until market open or does it have an actual purpose?

Strap in bear bros, we've been waiting for this correction for months

Sup /biz/nessmen
Whats the justification for shorts. Seriously am I missing something. What does it accomplish??

>>17660305
Shouldn't you be out like, shopping for condoms or something champ?

>>17660175
I told you that you have 99 iq

>>17660340
Giving an information signal that things are overpriced.

>>17660278
Screencapped

>>17660181
Absolutamente asqueroso

i feel so sick not buying those puts on friday. insta +1000%

Everyone saying the market is about to crash at open but it has already crashed in premarket LMAO it's over guys, back to bullrun in 5 minutes

Market isn't going to open btw.

>>17660347
Got those months ago man.

Get your lines ready for the next DON'T STOP ME NOW video

2 minutes

NEW

>>17660509
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>>17660509

NEW

>>17660509
>>17660509
>>17660509

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE THEY GONNA MAKE US WAIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17660042
What do you mean?

>>17660047
I'm not that pessimistic. I won't go too much into it because I can't do it without sounding demagogic.

Wew

>>17659460
Circuit breakers hit.

Holy fuck, halted in literally 5min after stock market opened. Clown world falling apart.

Yeah baby