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Bros

reminder for SPY and SPX puts

*puff the magic dragon

First for market open will be homoseks nd much disapoint

Are we there yet?
What countries are?

>/ES: 2819
lol, still only 2819.
How many days has it been stuck at 2819? Four days? Five days?

what are your calls for next week

Selling my SPY puts on open and going balls deep on DIS puts.

I only ever informed myself abou ETF and conservative dividend growth stocks. Now a crash is happening and I suffer massive FOMO because I know nothing about oprion trading.

>>17654771
Just buy something that's a month out from expiration with a mark 20% lower than the trading price.

>>17654760
based coronaposter

coof coof

>DAX futures down -6.6%
jesus christ
and FTSE about to break 6k lmao

>DJIA is at circuit breakers
>FTSE 100 is back over a 7% drop

>>17654790
good lord, France hardest raped of all

Thank God I didnt fall into the boomercoin "Stocks" meme

Well futures are dead so time for a little sleep

Only 6 more hours until I can get that bread

Here's an audio clip from CME pit back when flash crash happened, I predict today's going to be similar

TL;DR: STRAP IN AD HAVE FUN ANONS, EVERY CRISIS IS A POSSIBILITY

ttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E1xqSZy9_4I

>>17654810
Where the chad play. I had been shilling them for two weeks
I will wake up Green tomorrow. And I am still up 8% this quarter

I can't sleep.

i want to throw up

5200 contracts sitting on the e-mini S&P 500 Ask right now. Notional value: 780 million dollars. And we are limit down. Are we not entertained?

>>17654858
I AM FUCKING ENTERTAINED

first German dies of coronavirus, DAX to follow

>>17654858
what mean?

>>17654858
I am fucking myself over by not finishing a paper due tomorrow afternoon because I am so entertained by this carnage

also jesus christ, CAC 40 gonna hit -8% soon

>>17654735
should i just set market sell orders right now or hope theres a bounceback after the morning crash and sell then

>>17654892
pic very much related

>>17654753
how is this fucking fair? they are going to delay your SPX and VIX options??? this shit is so rigged

>>17654858
>>17654867
WELL, YOU CAN STILL WATCH THE CARNAGE /LIVE/ VIA 30Y TREASURIES

>all us indices have hit circuit breakers
>30Y treasuries just hit a new world record a few minutes ago
This is fantastic. It's like circumventing the parental blocks that schools set-up on their WiFi and getting access to unfiltered fucking internet porn, except it's the fucking US stock market

Down 1500+ at the opening bell.

>>17654907
It's called preventing a total fucking meltdown, kid.

>>17654913
I TOOK MY EYES OFF FOR ONE FUCKING MINUTE.
ONE.
FUCKING.
MINUTE.

HOLY SHIT.

>>17654921
I don't see much meltdown prevention at the moment

imagine being down 8% in futures, like that'd ever happen lmao

>>17654882
Means there is almost a billion dollars (and climbing) worth of selling pressure on the S&P 500 right now in the futures market that is stuck cuz the exchange won't allow anymore selling below the current price. This does not include the micros or the other indexes. When thst restriction is lifted at 9:30 AM eastern time all hell breaks loose. In short it's ogre

YUROP CRASHING HARD AHEAD OF OPEN

IT'S THE BIG ONE

>>17654913
lmao shit's fucked

>>17654916
3000+ at the open, futures trading has been halted when futures got to 2500.

do other indexes even have circuit breakers or is it US only?
DAX literally not stopping

>>17654821

>>17654735
>Over 16 million people under quarantine in Italy
>Oil prices dropping like a bowling ball out of world trade center 1.
Today is the day lads!

>>17654934
>-8.3%
floor? what floor?

Should have allocated more than 50% into bonds

I don't want to get into stock options because they scare me and seem risky and intimidating.

Am I a dumbass who is missing out, or is just buying and selling stock normally totally fine?

>>17654757
Broskis?

How much will these be worth /smg/?

>>17654771
Good stay out of my market. I don't need any more irresponsible traders screwing things up more than they already have.

FUCKING

BIBLICAL

>>17654756
Probably.

Seigneur sauve-nous

>>17654989
>-8.7%

Can somebody redpill me on forex?

>>17655018
EZ money

>>17655015
>-9.15%
jesus christ, I don't even have time to react before it keeps falling

https://www.investing.com/rates-bonds/u.s.-10-year-bond-yield

Almost -50%.

Most people are going to jump from windows by tomorrow right?
This is probably way worser in a different way than 1929.

People seem to be confused. There is a limit to selling. Everyone and there mother is going to want to short and buy put options, but they can't. Isn't enough to go around. Market can only drop so far.

>>17655018
politics rules over all, even fundamentals and the various monetary theories

>>17654913
>>17654926
LITERAL FUCKING FREE FALL.

SLEEPY ASS 30Y T-BILLS JUST POPPED ANOTHER 1% LIKE IT WAS NOTHING.

I'm going to fucking cry if I don't see those circuit breakers get fucking smashed at market open.

>>17655031
>-9.3%
YAMERO

>>17654973
>Am I a dumbass who is missing out, or is just buying and selling stock normally totally fine?

You can "bet" on whether stocks will go up or down without buying options, just buy the inverse ETFs
Then there are leveraged inverse ETFs
Just like options though they can still fuck you, I am still sitting on some SQQQ I'm hoping will moon on Monday so I can finally take profits

>>17655034
What happens when it becomes negative?

>>17654973
The intended purpose of options is to reduce risk it's only wsb zoomers who have popularized literal gambling via options lately. You have plenty of time to ease yourself into it so trade stocks for now and read up to learn how to use options for hedging when you're ready

JESUS CHRIST GERMANY IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

holding
>60% UPRO [3x S&P]
>40% TMF [3x long Treasuries]

i have no reaction picture for this

>>17654821
the best part is stocks are about 3x higher than there were here.

>>17655035
how is it worse

I feel for people who held over the weekend and bet on a pump come Monday thinking it was going to be like last Friday-Monday pump. There will be a lot of bodies dropping out of skyscraper windows

>>17655064
will they be forced to halt trading?

>>17655060
people lose more money

worst case scenario it keeps plummeting and the petrodollar completely collapses

>>17655051
Fuck the circuit breakers getting smashed.
Look out for falling boomers.

>>17655081
>-10% in FUTURES
we're doomed, unironically
I can't even keep up

>>17654766
I'm doing an opk to $3 call. They announced testing kits for corona this weekend theres no reason this shit cant go to $4 this week

Dax futures -9%
It will open into instant circuit breakers

fuck lads how am I supposed to go to sleep

t. American

>>17654928
You ever buy SOXS or just still holding SOXL? I know you got it cheap so no disrespect if that is the case.

Ill buy tommrow, and if you have a problem with that the unfriend button is right there

>>17655081
Jeez. This is full scale panic. I never thought I'd see it happen after 2008. Unbelievable. We're witnessing history. This day will be in textbooks

VIX FUTURES GOING FUCKING WILD
HOLY FUCKING SHIT GUYS

Omg wtf is going on.... is it ACTUALLY over

How the hell is Italy only down 3 1/2%

This week marks the beginning of the rest of my life fellow anons. We're all going to make it.

holy shit

europe in freefall kek

>>17655082
Not true. You have no clue how bonds work. The yield is going down because the treasury market is getting bought like no other.
price of bonds goes up = doc yields down
You are trading growth / equity for a lower % yield.

ACTUALLY BLACK MONDAY INCOMING

AGAIN

>>17655115
vix above 50
closer to 51 LMAO
just think, the japanese had it easy

This is fucking amazing. History being made and we are shitposting right through it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypHZ_iKBcoo&t=1062s

so... recession cause chinks ate bats/bioweapon?

we flew too close to the sun, brothers
time to fall

>tfw all in Au and Ag

>>17655142
>YEARS WORTH OF SAVING ARE GOING DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE OF RETARDED CHINESE PEASANTS

mother

LOOK AT THE SELLSIDE IN ANY YURO FUTURES
L O L

broke: using options to hedge against volatility
woke: using options to make big dick bets and 500% gains in a matter of days

>>17655064
1/5 of italy (about 30% of their economy) is on lockdown, and markets just opened from the weekend when it was announced

and to top it off, oil wars just restarted, the Russia-OPEC truce is now dead, petrolium products in general are in a (short term?) race to the bottom

basically kicking the can economically speaking since 2008 isnt working anymore (EU never really recovered either, poor fools)

lol France. lol Germany.

what's your biggest move for monday

bought puts on both italy and japan on friday, sorry i had to sacrifice my two favorite countries to the blood god, but hey, profit is profit

>>17655177
pulling it all out as fast as fucking possible

>>17655169
Is this unironically the start of civil war in Europe?
If I was a white europoor with nothing to lose I would be starting some shit

>>17655111
>THOSE NUMBERS
>BUYING TOMORROW
HELLO FRIEND! I AM ALSO BUYING TOMORROW!
WHAT SHOULD WE BUY? O&G SECTOR?!

30-year treasuries
fucking KEK

>when you crash capitarist piggu with a virus

>>17655109
No SOXS but bear in mind I'm buying very slowly as things are getting worse. Right now I'm about 10% of my stack in SOXL and I'll probably pick up some more tomorrow if the circuit breakers don't poop all over the party. Things are shit right now and the market is terrified but it'll turn around eventually, next month or next year who knows but it will. Ever since getting deep into stocks I've regretted not having a buying opportunity like 2008 and this may end up being just thst before it's over. I have several hundred thousand earmarked I'll be slowly going in with. If the market drops 50%, I expect SOXL to drop 80 or 90%. If I could get just 100k worth at a price that low I'll be set for multiple lifetimes within 10 years. I'm playing the long game and unlike 2008 I won't miss this one.

Reminder that circuit breakers make bad situations worse, and have exactly the opposite of their intended effect.

>>17655069
TMF is a good hold. Just start selling that for more UPRO.

I'm fucking loaded on SSO and SPXL, with only 6k cash left out of 40k to 50k invested. I might start transferring in even more

>>17655177
I'm not doing shit tomorrow. Buy s&p buy signal is minimum four days away if this bounces. Did not take the short entry. All cash. Gonna make some popcorn and watch the show.

>>17655177

Buy as soon as I see what looks to be a bottom. I just don't know what to buy because you bigots on /biz/ won't tell me

thoughts on 280 SPY puts four weeks out

>>17655219
bro you’re gonna buy into the worst trading day this century

The Fed can't pump again so soon after last week, I think that even they know that another point decrease so soon would terrify rather than reassure.

>>17655177
Buy the daily low, sell the daily high
>>17655196
Jack in the Box

Bears and bulls both not sleeping tonight.
https://youtu.be/twQlpFrm5iM

>>17655230

It should only take a day for the bottom to appear, right?

>>17655203
chinaman eats a bat
global economy collapses

So this is a butterfly effect, huh

give me a good conspiracy theory regarding all of this

>>17655215
i have about 200k split between the two. you're right, i should buy when there's blood in the streets

just kicking myself for selling TMF last week otherwise i'd be even more loaded up

>>17655215
based
It's gonna be rough but we'll pull through

VIX is up 42%....

>>17655247
No, this shit has a while to go. This is going to make 2008 look like a hiccup before everything's said and done.

I could just throw up, pulled out on all shorts on friday because it fucked my over the weekend last week, now this

>>17655245
The shitposting and memes are 10/10 tonight. Keep it up lads.

>>17655252
Yeb! is the one behind the stock market crash

>USA might be close to 60% of the worlds stock market by the years end

>>17655219
because its impossible to know without hindsight

and by the time we know, its too late to do anything differently anyways

>>17655277

should... should I sell what I have and then buy in again in a few weeks?

>>17655252
China invented coronavirus to lower their population and get rid of the lowest caste of chinese

>>17655252
The joos

fucking wew

>>17655277
2008 WAS a hiccup. Zoom out and use the log scale to really get a feel for how fucked what we're currently experiencing is.

so the real question is what % of thia is corona and what % is the BIBLICAL oil price war

>>17655206
Good plan, it will work out it.

I'm all in on SOXS, will probably sell soonish depending on what happens. I will be all in on SOXL once recovery looks to be right around the corner.

Every single person in this thread can become a millionaire if you play your cards right

>>17655219
>I just don't know what to buy because you bigots on /biz/ won't tell me
There's no way to know. If you short you could get fucked on a bounce day. If you long you could get fucked by more of this. If you buy corona stuff now, you'd be in a really flimsy position with easy double digit downside in minutes due to how pumped those stocks already are. Ditto for gold/silver. You could try to average in on oil/gas betting on rebound later this year but that also carries potential 20% downside.

So either slow cost average in to s&p or wait for better setup.

>>17655318

WHAT SHOULD I DO

I'M SO SCARED I'M LITERALLY SHAKING

>want to sleep because I'm fucking tired and I'm a wagecuck who works monday morning
>dont want to sleep because I might miss the apocalypse

ugh

>>17655318
my broker literally won't let me

>>17655217
>anons who made the right decision sitting comfy
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>17655289
I’m uhhhhh considering it
But it would be extremely painful. Still if I just put the riskier stuff in KO and PEP...?

>>17655252
Uhhh
US debt crisis?

>>17655318
Not the ones still using robinhood though, I will laugh if they experience more technical difficulties today

>>17655329
I'm not gonna lie, this is like the fucking financial apocalypse.

>>17655318
Bro, tell me the right cards, and I'll send you 250k if I hit the 1 million mark.

>>17655318
tell me what cards to play then faggot

Any hawaiibro islandniggers in here? Don’t forget mainland did their daylight savings voodoo today so markets open at 3:30 tomorrow morning

>>17655344
I can't wait for more robin hood tears

>>17655278
Don't do anything stupid lad. I lost so much money on biopharma calls and puts because I undershot and miscalculated the time frame of this happening by 1 week. I wanted to go in and make some revenge trades to get my money back and then some, but decided against it after I cooled off. I'm choosing to sit this out until it's over unless I see clear and unobstructed obvious plays.

>>17655252
The accidentally escaped bioweapon theory isn't too outrageous. It is possible.

>>17655325
lol, just keep buying short puts on SPY nigger. Free money

>>17655344
Robinhood is 100% “crashing” the whole day

I have my $48K portfolio set to sell at the open, moving to Paper gold.

>>17655295
Holy moly.

>>17655307
Coronavirus pandemic was was knocked over the leaning Jenga tower. This collapse was imminent. A textbook black swan event.

>>17655304
how so?

Alright lads this is it. The big one.

How do we get rich off the crash. What would Warren Buffett do. What are we buying

>>17655344
I think it’s a given that robinhood will be down after 12 seconds of trading tomorrow

>>17655369
Hows it going fellow hawaii bro reporting in

Is there anything I can do about my 401k?

It's just fidelity automanage, are there settings or shit I can change it to?

>>17655252
Chinese bioweapon as a response to the trade war. They bounce back faster and can lock down due to central planning and death squads. Killing a few hundred thousand of their own citizens doesn't mean anything long term.

The globohomo west cannot cope with actual killer disease and roaming packs of criminal alien rape gangs.

Basically, China deployed the first global killer bio weapon as nuclear option due to USA clowning them economically.

>>17655341
>sitting comfy
I already lost plenty last week if it makes you feel any better.

>>17655394
>moving to Paper gold.


>He doesn't own physical

>ANY GOOD DISCORDS TO SHITPOST ON VOICE FOR THE CRASH?
ANY GOOD DISCORDS TO SHITPOST ON VOICE FOR THE CRASH?
>ANY GOOD DISCORDS TO SHITPOST ON VOICE FOR THE CRASH?
ANY GOOD DISCORDS TO SHITPOST ON VOICE FOR THE CRASH?

>>17655378
Extremely unlikely.

Russia is taking its well-timed shot at the US. If our system cant take it, Russia and China get to divide the world up between them.

The flu gave them the opportunity.

Wuhan closing emergency hospitals btw, reopening shanghai Disney. Authoritarian technocracy seems to be the way to handle these things.

>>17655408
bro liquidate that shit to a money market account asap

my broker just put out a warning some market makers will no longer buy/sell some instruments due to too high volatility.

Global currencies devalued vs. US dollar and chink monopoly money. Unironically might result in mass purchase of crypto and gold.

>>17655408
>Is there anything I can do about my 401k?
Pull it all out into cash.

>>17655398
You pendantic autistic nigger. Of course you'd pull that chart out. Go on tradingview or your broker's charting tool and compare the major stock indices on a max time frame while using the log scale.

>>17655406
Chee hoo, ready for the happening. Hope you got your toilet paper ready

>>17655416
It doesn’t mister
I’m going to be down since dec 2018 tomorrow.

IBIO and INO is the path to riches

>yfw all the world still runs to US government bonds whenever they get scared, despite our completely fucked budget

we are the world's Daddy
when do I get my eastern euro gf?

>>17655369
>>17655406

yeee brahs. i'm on maui here. staying up for the financial apocalypse

My TLT is up 7 % from like two weeks ago is it still smart to buy more TLT?

How long until market open for the yurocucks?

>>17655219
>
>Buy as soon as I see what looks to be a bottom. I just don't know what to buy because you bigots on /biz/ won't tell me
Bruh.
Right now the markets are full autism. There's no way to know. Even seasoned traders are on the cash bandwagon. It's possible to make crazy gains but you need to be a good to pull it off, and we're closer to fairies on crack.

>>17655467
8 minutes

$150k cash in a trading account

How can I take advantage tomorrow? What do I buy?

>>17655448
>not buying shit tier Asian country’s bonds like Vietnam, Malaysia, Philippines that pay 5% interest

>>17655467
10 mins
futures already kill. It's going to be a bloodbath

>>17655467
8 MINUTES TO BELL IN FINLAND, BALTICS, GREECE

1 HOUR AND 8 MINUTES TO BELL IN CENTRAL EUROPE

so is powell gonna do another 50bp rate cut? kek.

>>17655480
lol what is inflation

I'm glad I only have $800 dollars in stocks but man even losing that is gonna feel like shit tomorrow

>>17655479
either day trade or sit it out

do you guys have any predictions for btc within the next 3 months

>>17655502
>$800 dollars in stocks
the fuck you still have money in stocks for

have you not been paying attention the last three weeks

I'm not worried about my disney/united airlines stock

but should I sell my SPY stock if things start going down, I have like $4000 in that

STILL NOT SELLING MY 10year old VTSAX!!!!

>>17655467
Who’s he?
>>17655416
Alright mr. DWLMAO
You win. I’m done with HODL losing positions, DCA down, permabagholdering.
Tell me how to learn how to trade. I don’t want to get started on the wrong path.

>>17655516
i've got some predictions for bbc within the next 3 minutes

>>17655438
>max time frame
Do you actually know what time frame that is? Or is vagueness your goal?

>>17655519
>start going down
>future trading already halted
>10Y yield losing 50% in a day
Anon, I...

>>17655524
>BBC Special Report: Panic in the Markets
Yeah it’ll prolly be pretty kino disaster porn.

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VSwka28KVM

>>17655517
I was green most of those weeks. I wanted to believe things would be okay.

fuck all triptrannies btw

All right then. If the market is going to crash hard, at least that means in a year or so it's likely to skyrocket harder than it ever has before, right?

do i see my ftse puts at open?

also, i've been holding spy puts over the weekend too. they don't seem up much, will they get re valued when the us market opens proper?

OH SHIT
Whoever posted the Malkiel book thanks. Gonna listen this next once I finish pumping gas.

holy christ that FTSE drop

numba go down

>DAX OPENED AT -7.8%

>DAX OPENED AT -7.8%

>DAX OPENED AT -7.8%

We’re down like 15% now? So the markets gotta drop another ~5% to have priced in the average recession?

Are there any special fees or tax consideration with ETFs and more importantly reverse ETFs?
Tempted to gamble a tiny bit on UVXY but unclear on if (on my end) it's the same as just buying any stock

>>17655243
ratty are u ok? CVX...
time to... buy...

>>17655579
>the average recession
it's gonna be 2008

CAC 40 halted
Oh boy

>>17655604
Worse, way worse.

What do you guys think will be the bottom for TSLA?
I bought at $344 months ago and sold at $800, with the coming shitshow I'm thinking about getting back in

>>17655579
Yeah s&p should be around - 16%

>>17655576
Fucking hell, same thing in Amsterdam. I haven't ever seen this in my life.

Dax recovering time to buy

>>17655617
The oil news is game changing news for tesla

People here in Helsinki are chimping out lol

>>17655530
30 years

>>17655617
Is tesla a solid company that will survive a recession?

Guys keep in mind for those thinking of trading. Volume is going to be intense. Orders may not go through. Think of Robinhood being down, but worse.

I'm sitting it out. This week is going to be bad. Don't fall for the bull traps after the drop.

>>17655617

If oil goes to shit, electric cars might take over the market, right?

>>17655639
Tesla is a meme company but it will survive a recession because Musk is a sleazy space obsessed Howard Hughes

yup certainly feels refreshing to me

>>17655631
This but in 3 weeks

Everything that is now happening in Europe will be twice as bad in the USA

So do I try to sell what I have or accept I'm two weeks late for that and just hold on for dear life?

>>17655648
I can run my V8 for $10 a week. I dont think that is good for Tesla

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17655648
>oil becomes cheaper than its been in decades
>this means electric cars will take over, right?
lolno

Withdrawing cash now before the banks start enforcing limits - smart or not?

>>17655648
That's the wrong going to shit right now. Oil is becoming cheap as fuck so electric cars are worthless unless you're a tree hugger for now. Gonna be a long while unless the Sauds call Trump and offer to cut production for war help or some other shady deal.

RUSSIAN FORCES MASSING ON LATVIAN AND ESTONIAN BORDER.

>>17655604
>>17655613
>ID:CMG
Hmmmm....
Maybe. If it is the fer real debt crisis.
Look into the question asked here:
>>17654757


>>17655599
You’ve been putting awfully kinky file names in! I thought you swore off the pleasures of the flesh...

Can you post the dr. Lipsitch interview you were talking about? I found a couple podcasts but they were super short.

I’ve got like a 13% position in svxy btw, so. Uhhh. Vix always goes down right? That’s a guarantee?

what's up with the US index, is it still halted?

>Deutsche Bank
JUST

>>17655548
I like how as this got worse the tripfags slowly vanished as if the crash was snapping them away

>>17655648
no not at all

if gas goes down to $0.50 a gallon you think people are going to want more gas powered cars, or less?

>>17655648
no?
oil is cheap as fuck rn

>>17655684
>Those people that tried to catch a falling anvil


LMAO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5QlSgq7lg

>>17655689
I considered this but I feel like I’m more likely to get robbed than I am to be completely out of cash and unable to withdraw any.

>>17655604
>2008
1929

>>17655684
It's over guys. I'm betting on 80+ VIX at this point. This shit is absolutely out of control and nobody can stop it until everything is corrected and balanced.

You'll be bag holding for the next 5-10 years if you haven't sold already.

>>17655719
Step 1: put cash in safe

Step 2: guard safe 24/7 with firearm

>>17655728
Yep.

Bros, I'm new here but everyone told me to check /biz/, what's going on? I'm getting a little scared

>>17655732
I’m only worth like 50k outside of some assets that don’t even add all that much. I’d spend too much of that on the safe and firearm.

>>17655728
>You'll be bag holding for the next 5-10 years if you haven't sold already.

LIKE I SAID, THIS RECORD BREAKING DROP INDICATES A RECORD BREAKING REBOUND RIGHT?

>>17655726
If Deutsche Bank breaks we're dead

tripfags did this

>>17655684
Have they halted trading?

>>17655599
I am ok, in fact this is the best Ive ever felt. I can not wait to wake up tommorow

All Dutch banks going to drop 15% today, insurance 15-20%, RDS 20%

>>17655752
Not yet but that will only fuel more panic.

>>17655728

Is it too late to sell when markets open?

>>17655743
yes, always

>>17655740
it's over. Economy cancelled. Come back, I dunno, 2027?

>>17655689
When was the last time there was a run and when was the last time FDIC failed to provide cover it?

>>17655740
The world is ending, enjoy the ride

>>17655764

>>17655740
The Russians and Saudis just got into the great pissing match all the way down to $20 oil, during Coronameme.

>>17655699
It's not meant to be lude just sound funny!
This is the interview, it's pretty short I dunno if you already found it
https://twitter.com/NoahRFeldman/status/1233365388668194816
And yes, look at VIX on the monthly kekkies, I'm mortally horrified for most of my holdings but my SVXY taking big hits is surprisingly less concerning 2 me. I am gonna maybe pop off some short daytrades 2day tho don't tell the rat

>>17655764
Selling at the open is your only option if you havn't exited already, otherwise you have a decade of bagholding

>>17655764
Yeah just market sell the open

>tfw blue chip companies with trillion-dollar market cap that you bought at a low last week have already dropped 6% and the US market isn't even open

>>17655780

I AM SCARED AS FUCK RIGHT NOW SAY SOMETHING FUCKER

>>17655767
dont think we gonna see a new kondratiev wave at 2030

my broker won't let me sell my puts

CHRIST ON A CRACKER THE MAN IS A FULL BLOWN RETARD

Has anyone heard this statement from trump how he’d rather the infected stay on the cruise ship because he likes the numbers of infected where they are? Doesn’t “need them to double because of one ship”

I thought he was good at this shit... but he must’ve just had an amazing streak of good luck.

i was here :3

I'M BUYING THE DI- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/SPX500/rdQCwlhM-Its-beautiful-isn-t-it/

I have 60k in stocks.

DB 5.7

This is literally the end of modern industrial civilisation

>>17655831
Not anymore

I think some markets closed trading, i cant see any new prices on my etfs after the open 16 minutes ago (europoor)

>>17655812
Stfu libtard. Enjoy being raped to death by corona infected niggers as your coastal communist hive collapses.

>>17655831
You will have 40K by close tomorrow lol.

>>17655764
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dax recovering to -6.
Buy now to be part of the greatest bull runs in his

>>17655812
Dude looks drugged out, he probably knows it’s over for the global economy

>>17655831
50k by the end of today, 40 on friday. I had 7k 20 minutes ago (am in Europe) 6300 now

>>17655831
Why did you think holding through this weekend was a good idea?

GERMAN 10 YEAR ALMOST MINUS ONE FUCKING PERCENT

>>17655804
>bought at a low
>stock market is about to crash 95%+

>>17655837
FIFTEEN PERCENT

>>17655853
Don't fall for the bulltrap

>>17655837
>end of modern industrial civilisation
Oh thank fucking God

Oh shit. Ohhhhh shit I’m panic selling just about everything. Don’t even know if I should wait for an oversold bounce this is just... this is NOT a good sign

>>17655791
Thanks!
Heh yeah... yeah I won’t. I even bought a tiny SH hedge but not nearly enough to compensate for everything else that’s about to get BTFO.

Oh shit...

Does anyone have that state of the economy greentext that mentions how everything is in a bubble?

>>17655849
Trying too hard

>>17655406
>>17655440
Oahu hospital night shift reporting in. We got at least 1 more case of corona than Hawaii news now knows about.

>>17655849
Cope

>>17655875
ITS TOO LATE

>>17655849
Pathetic, if not ironic.

i am just waiting for AMD to be under 30 again so i can stock up its gonna be amazing

>>17655885

>>17655894
Are you the ER worker that was telling us this was a nothingburger?

>>17655904
yeah it hurts to see the drop, but we're looking at a fire sale of good company stock

WHAT HAPPENS TO INVERSE ETFS IF THE BANKS GO UNDER

>>17655894
At this point the virus while a worry is #2 compared to this meltdown

>>17655891
>>17655896
Found the shitlib communists. You will have it worst in coming depression. Weak, zero applicable real world skills, no resources, no land. You're going to die.

nikkei and cac40 Buy buy buy buy buy b_b_a

>>17655883
I don't blame you for bailing honestly, I'm sorry I got you into this mess ;_;
I am Ahab, I'm going down with the whale (maybe give it a few stabs with 3x first)

hold biomed stocks?

>You know remember that there were people, IN THIS THREAD, who bought the dip

>>17655883
What is the likelihood that algorithmic trading is curbed/banned after this?

>Coming to /biz/ for advice

There are legit people here, but most of it is trolls and children memeing and wondering whats going on, if you are a actual investor be careful in times like this you can literally lose it all.

I sold everything at a 170k (USD) loss 2 weeks ago. With my MRNA, GILD and INO I'm going to be positive in a week.

Uhh, guys... Is it supposed to be this low?

>DAX
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

All right, so my ass is absolutely fucked, but it's not fucked for 10 years, right?

>oil situation settles
>coronavirus blows over
>people buy up the cheap stock
>things bounce back in a year

Right?

>>17655947
Nah you didn’t. Svxy is one of the ones I may ride this out with along with KO and JNJ? I dunno.

BROKERS ARE DOA

A lot of people seem to have technical problems with their brokers in europe, charts are not updated since open for me

>>17655968
Wait till we hit negative yelds

>>17655963
based

>>17655898
Who did you vote for? The stuttering, angry communist that lost a boxing match against a punching bag? Or the kiddy sniffing pedophile grandpa with dementia? You're going to feel the bern alright, while you are being roasted over an open flame by a pack of hunger crazed spic gangsters.

>>17655684
>stock market becomes a shitcoin
I'd be laughing if I wasn't horrified

>>17655937
Stop projecting

>>17655986
what happens then.

CAUSE IM FREE

FREE FALLIN

>>17655976
>coronavirus blows over
it unironically hasn't even begun yet

>>17655961
The flip side is sometimes biz gives you the correct answer whereas googling the same question points to an article by shekelberg jewstein that says "don't worry about it goyim ; )"

>JUST FUCK MY SHEISSE UP

>>17655991
Nah I don’t vote
Felon

>>17655976
*haunting arid wind*

i'm fucking crying bros

in 2008 i was a dumb highschooler who didnt know shit and just saw big negative numbers and my mom and dad looking concerned

now it's my fucking head on the chopping block

>>17655991
Neither Trump nor the Democrats running against him are under 70. Trump and Biden are both senile and Bernie thinks he needs to relitigate the fucking Contras. Hopefully they all die of coronachan.

>>17656003
NY state now has as many cases as california, and they're creeping upstate too.
It's going to get a lot worse in the US before it gets better, PA only has 4 cases but that's going to spiral if they actually start testing

>>17655987
I've been super aggressive with my buys and sells, small margins and trading often to stop myself from being greedy. This situation has pissed me off so fucking much. Clawed back 103k of real money.

>>17655993
You've got more canned responses than you have canned food. Let's see how long you last without Starbucks and grabfood.

>>17655992
IT KEEPS FALLING
>-8.6

>>17655980
>technical problems
Tactical Circuit Breakers are being deployed

>>17655975
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

>>17655860
wow

>>17656011
I knew this would happen. Dutch banks are dropping 10-14%, Deutsche Bank is a lot weaker as a company. This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Norway opens at -12%, currency at all time low.

>>17655991
RECORD NEW HIGHS KEK

>>17656014
Based and fuck democracy pilled

Well then, how hard are index funds going to be hit?

Sure some areas will crash, but other areas will flourish and keep VOO and SPY a little healthy, right?

>>17656024
I'm in the same boat brother. I think this is the first time I've been legitimately panicked

>>17655707
Less tripfags=more market death

>>17656024
I was a middle schooler 2008 and I told myself that I want to profit from the next crash. Didn't think I had to wait 12 years but ok

I need to drive to school at 7am but it's 1:30am and I need to watch the Second Great Financial Crisis unfold in real time on my phone

I'm not wearing pants btw

what do negative interest rates mean? Do you pay the government lol.


why would anyone buy them at all then?

>>17655976
As long as the fundamentals are good

>>17656029
This x 100

what's he thinking

>>17655980
Popular Finnish broker's servers just crashed LMAO

EU stox regs are extremely liberal compared to USA markets. we're going to get HAULTED here tomorrow. they won't let it drop more than 4%. just look at the futures, already stopped.

>>17656071
don't go to school

>>17655911
Thank you!

JUST ANSWER ME PLAINLY

IF I GO ON ROBINHOOD RIGHT NOW AND SELL MY STOCKS, WHAT WILL HAPPEN? WILL THEY SELL IMMEDIATELY WHEN THE MARKET OPENS

>>17656070
Google japan for a real world answer to both

>>17656071
its probably a good day to skip school

>>17655980
what website anon, we want to see

>>17656068
I have a decent amount of SQQQ and PSQ but I don't even know about anything anymore. This is some actual new history in the making type shit

>>17655980
Mine works fine.
>tfw 3% down

>>17655977
Sounds good on all 3 honestly. This Saudi thing on top of Corona really starting to pick up in the US is an unironical black swan, VIX will not be able to sustain these numbers for months at a time. We could have a true recession (we might), become new Japan (we won't), and VIX will still fall eventual. Painful time though X(

Black Swan Event

Italy market failed to open lmao

>>17656083
>l-lord bogdanoffs please have mercy
>"merci? you're welcome."

>>17656072
>inb4 it turns out the fundementals were secretly shit all along

>>17656097
YES, BUT ITS ALREADY TOO LATE

>>17656071
Email professors saying you feel like you have a cold and don't want to get anyone else sick

>>17656097
>he thinks he can sell

>>17656122
>they won't be able to sell if we don't open the market

IT'S NOT JUST THE OIL OR VIRUS.
DID YOU SEE HOW MUCH JAPAN'S ECONOMY CONTRACTED LAS QUARTER? NOW ADD BEER VIRUS TO THAT. THAT'S A FUCKING RECESSION FOR A THIRD ECONOMY IN THE WORLD.

>>17655853
Do it.

>>17656130

WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S TOO LATE. THE PRICE IS LISTED AT 278 FOR VOO

IS THE PRICE GOING TO PLUMMET THE SECOND BEFORE MY STOCKS SELL?

>>17656083
>I miss being young and single and having money. got to Charleston with quite a few fetching young ladies. Where are my teeth? Damn this enlarged prostate.

I have $1000 to blow on options. Give me the name, strike price and expiration.

>>17656089
Wasn't the halt only for 15 mins? It takes a 2p

>stock market can't crash if we don't open the stock market!

Big brain

>>17656097
>WILL THEY SELL
Who is going to buy?

>>17656123

>>17655252
Soros did it with his lab in Wuhan. The 666 one. Breaks world enemies, gets Rich, denigrates Trump.

>>17656122
>yfw this happens to London & NY

>>17656167
SNSS 2 dollar March 20

>>17656167
SPY 0 TOMORROW

>>17656070
it means if you put $1000 in the bank, they charge you a % fee instead of paying you a % interest like in the past. for example, in the past you would get like +2% on your savings account, and perhaps even 1% on your checking account. so banks paid you to deposit money because they can then lend that money out. money had value. now that banks get free money printed by central banks, they don't care about you depositing. they want you to hold cash and spend it. so they charge you % negative interest rate. the negative interest means it subtracts from your balance.

in japan, when this policy started, the japs just stopped using banks and instead bought vaults to use at home. they then just kept cash at home, spent the cash, or bought gold and other valuable physical goods to store in their home vault. this is also why japs mostly deal in cash at restaurants and local businesses.

in the US we already get charged fees to have checking account if you don't maintain a minimum balance or don't make the required monthly card transactions.

JAPAN IS IN RECESSION, I REPEAT JAPAN IS IN RECESSION. THE OLYMPICS ARE GOING TO GET CANCELLED DUE TO THE BAT FLU, THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW FINANCIAL CRISIS.

WEW SAUDI MBS MAKING BIG MOVES UNDER THE COVER IF CHAOS

the king is totally dead already they just don’t want to announce it

>>17656116
We were already guaranteed a recession before the oil meeting fell apart, so says an investor I trust on Friday.

>>17656011
>Had $5 DB puts that expired in February that I bought back in August
Off by one fucking month, hod fucking dmit

>>17656122
Wtf? My puts tho?

>>17656210
>olympics cancelled
where can I bet on this

>>17655728
No. In a year everything will be alright again. Selling now would be madness.

THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>17656168
futures halted then resumed then halted again, haha

>>17656202
Spy at -1

so what's the chance of the US market drop to 10%? seems to me like there is still sell pressure given the future halting.

>>17656137
Christ that’s genius why didn’t I think of that

>>17656127
That's the risk
I refer to XEROX as an example of just that. Fundamentals were great until it turned out they were cooking the books

>>17656237

SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM THIS

I'M SCARED AS FUCK, I WANT TO FEEL BETTER

>>17656215
oh god I saw MBS basically couped some more family members last week, I should have paid more attention >_<
Where are you seeing this happening??
also this is a secret I shouldn't tell but I've been told to observe what's going on in certain China stocks. 600031

>>17656215
>king is dead
pill me on this I'm out of the loop

what about a potential presidential change? How does that typically affect stock markets?

>Dax crashing
>Dollar dropping to worthlessness
>You get paid to buy oil basically
>Its all coming down
Its over

>>17656215
He's going full Machiavelli on the other heirs

>>17655397
this, we've been waiting for this shit since like April

>>17656232
You can make various bets whether it gets postponed or relocated or cancelled with various betting sites, just like you can bet on the next US President.

>>17656286
Man, at this point nobody cares. Sanders could take office and it would not change a thing

>>17656260
As long as this really is being kicked off by Corona and now Saudi oil war it will likely be shorter in duration than 2008. Possibly greater in severity, but shorter. This presumes it doesn't cause some insane cascade in high finance, DB has me SHOOK

>>17656260
>he doesn’t have a portfolio with 3 sortino ratio
Anon I don’t know what to tell you

>>17656290
It just keeps tumbling down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4

>>17656269
Industrial firm?
Watch it for what o.O

The 30 year yield is where the 10 year yield was 4 days ago

>>17656314

I'VE ONLY BEEN DOING THIS FOR 6 DAYS, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS

I DIDN'T ASK TO BE GREETED BY THIS MESS

Anyone else hammered drunk dealing with a peeping tom? Also how do i get 2.6B youtube views?
https://youtu.be/60ItHLz5WEA

>>17656271
Google it. I get my global news mostly from the economist

When am I getting paid to hold SPY? Is it going to be negative just like rates? I really like the idea of getting paid to own businesses such as AAPL.

>>17655252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174&feature=emb_title

Lmfao. If only you knew how bad things really are. Peruse through this YouTube channel. We live in the matrix. Wake up lad.

MILAN EXCHANGE -12%

>>17656260
Stop wasting your time on /biz then. This website will only make you more scared because of all the shitposters. If you are able to hold for more than 2 month you have nothing to worry about (of course if you invested in shitcoin or small companies you may be fucked)

>>17656251
I've unironically thought about writing a book for college kids in all the shit you wish you knew on how to game the system

>>17656331
How has it reacted to the Corona news? It's last 3 months sure don't look like broader markets... Note I'm not talking about that company specifically, it's just emblematic of someone maybe knowing something

>>17656248
>so what's the chance of the US market drop to 10%? seems to me like there is still sell pressure given the future halting.

MSFT is already at -7% so yeah -10% is doable

I literally don't see how lowering oil prices is bad for an economy. Except maybe slimmer profit margisn for the oil sellers themselves, it seems like a nice stimulus package to hundreds of other industries

>>17656384
Well, obviously MSFT will go way down. Computers have viruses too, so it will severely affect their operations.

>>17656395
Yes it will hurt a few regions of the US but everyone else gets a break.

>>17656354
Repost with Korean captions. Wallah!

>>17656260
The only way you'll feel better is to math it out yourself

Write out what stocks you own, the possible good bad neutral events to come, and how exposed to the relevant risk your stocks are
If you own SPY ask if the world/capitalism is going to end

>>17656384
Yeah bought MSFT and AMD 3 Months ago. Looks like I'm gonna stop watching my stocks for some months. Otherwise I will go fucking insane.

Soooo.... how long until everyone is desensitized to this corana bullshit

It hasn't even begun.

>420 replys

SOMEONE MAKE A NEW FUCKING THREAD

Is the market going to go any lower?? I cant afford to lose anymore money, I'm $151 down and i might need to withdraw all my money as my spending money is getting low

>>17656361
AAPL pays a dividend
Spy doesn't but it also is more than just Apple for good and for bad

>>17656395
>I literally don't see how lowering oil prices is bad for an economy. Except maybe slimmer profit margisn for the oil sellers themselves, it seems like a nice stimulus package to hundreds of other industries
Lowering the oil price is honestly the only good thing happening right now.

It's honestly why I'm pro-fracking because OPEC and their ilk cannot be trusted and domestic oil helps safeguard the US economy against their bullshit, and I'm usually a hardcore environmentalist.

>>17656395
You do realise that shale oil companies that have breakeven prices of $40-$50 doing their shit in the Permian Basin are going to get rekt? Now, these companies make up a major portion of the American economy, they go bust the economy loses tons of workplaces, banks lose a shit ton of money because they credited those companies, then that has ripples on the other sectors, investment goes down and the whole financial system contracts. You can think of it as if one pil company bought some excel license for their operations and now they won't. They also have a person working for them who could afford an iPhone and now they won't. Now scale this up and realise the whole Texas is not really profitable with those prices. How does that affect the economy?

I already made myself a brand new car!

>>17656420
I'm going to keep riding it out, and when something resembling a bottom appears I'll buy a bit more.
I know people that sold for like a 30% loss in 2008 whereas they would have been fine if they had held on for a year or so, and retired early if they had bought.

>>17656420
I bought some stuff almost 15 years ago. Just put shit money away like 50/mth. Then stopped For about 8 yrs cuz I moved and got married and had kids and bought a house. Now it’s worth 16k.

>>17656402
MSFT might lose JEDI