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This is definitely 100% the bottom in yields. It has to be.

we're all going to die

>tfw all in on GILD
yeah, I'm thinking I'm back

>>17603407
We still have rate cuts coming up probably

This market is going down with no survivors Friday. Apocalypse day.

1st for FUCK HR ROASTIES, TRANNIES AND JANNIES

>>17603400
>>17603424
watch the market climb 4% tomorrow. just fucking watch it. i'm not saying it will, i'm not saying i hope it will, i'm just saying who the fuck can even predict this shit anymore.

>>17603423
kek

I bought and sold on two of the big rises/falls so far.

66.4 -> 74
69 -> 75

I love GILD but not in it right now, hope it zigzags again.

>US500 futures unable to break 2975 anymore

It's ogre bros...

>>17603407
>AND IM FREEEEEEEEEEEEE
>FREE FAAAALLIN

Over half the death princess cruise ship were completely asymptomatic. This disease is an empty bun but don't tell the chinks or wall street kikes that.

>>17603407
This means Tesla 2000 by EOY right?

>>17603480
cruise ship cases*. Oh and it had like a 0.1% death rate

>>17603480
I keep seeing this meme floating around. Does "empty bun" equate to a nothing burger?

>futures red across the board
>and VIX at 8%
this is gonna be a bloody day

>>17603480
That's why it spreads so easily. Half the carriers are still out and about. One asymptie working at a food prep place and you got hundreds of new cases.

It makes it way worse.

Invest in SNSS

>>17603494
there's 2 strains - s strain and l strain. l is much more deadly.

>>17603400
My quads aged well.

>>17603488
TSLA and SPCE will come out on top of this shit.

I'm a new trader with only about $600 to spend right now. Any recommended stocks that seem like they will make good money? Just looking for recommendations, then i'll do my own research after

for the smoothbrain low IQ people

What is going to kill more people?

100% death rate disease that infects 1 person.

10% death rate disease that infects 1000 people.

do the math, you can do it, maybe use a calculator or ask a friend.

>>17603497
yeah, pretty sure its one of those english->chinese->english translations

>>17603518
Of course, master

>>17603536
what if those 1000 people are bears? Are they still people?

>>17603407
Nope, negatives inbound. Soon enough...

>>17603533
pty at NAV

>>17603407
No, it isn't, expect the bottom to be somewhere around .25, and expect it sooner than later.

>>17603411
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>>17603536
Rationalize all you want, fact is that China shut their whole country down and the global economy relies on them, so stocks go down.

>>17603577
Nice try, other thread's OP

fuck this bear thread

>>17603437
Don't forget the HR faggot too, yeah Fuck you Alex, try to put me on blast with senior leadership only to look like a fucking idiot, only to then try to send another accusatory email to just me? Bitch I ain't ever responding to another one of your emails again, you can't even tell me your showing up in my meetings when you see me 10 fucking minutes before, but think I'm gonna respond to your bitchass? Fuuuuccccckkk you, go back to sitting in HR and trying to spy on management you fucking pheasant.

>>17603577
Danganronpa edition best edition, fuk off

>>17603627
The absolute scourge of the earth.

>futures absolutely blasting off to space

Bullbros, this is our time.

why are there two threads now?

>>17603595
I'm the other thread's OP. I'm posting in all three and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>17603480
That's because corona chan was designed that way. The viral strain is supposed to remain dormant in your body until some other component trigger it. It's the ultimate control tool. If you become a problem/(((they))) want to get rid of us, they simply have to release the second part of the virus to get us all dead. The second part of the virus will also be harmless alone, only if you have been infected with the first one you'll die.

>>17603589

its retards like this who have no concept of whats going on that give me hope for making it out even money tmrw after only losing 19.85$ this week.

>>17603577
>20 unique IDs
>25 posts

Tomorrow is absolutely fucked.

Futures were green most of the 3% drops the past few days

>>17603669
because /smg/ is too retarded for one thread

>>17603699
This is tonight

>>17603669
Now there are three total

mommy central bank gonna print more money don't worry nocoiners
imagine being this cucked

MICROSOFT SAYS TWO WASHINGTON EMPLOYEES HAVE CORONAVIRUS
>MICROSOFT SAYS TWO WASHINGTON EMPLOYEES HAVE CORONAVIRUS
MICROSOFT SAYS TWO WASHINGTON EMPLOYEES HAVE CORONAVIRUS
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>>17603553
Yes, let your hatred flow through you. Next week we profit on the decline of MGM.

>>17603743
The more /smg/ threads, the less pajeet shitcoin scammer threads. What's the problem?

Pump it feds coming in to save the day back to above 1%.
Trump will save this economy where Obama failed.

>>17603743
oh well
as long as it stays red tomorrow, im happy

>>17603636
I only played the first game. Are the others worth it?

>>17603764
you think it will keep tanking?

How much will the fed pump this time?

So we see a 10y bounce here. If we spend all day tomorrow retesting 0.9%, I actually expect green equity markets.

>>17603895
They will do another 100 billion that should at least get tomorrow close to decent green.

post cute bears

>mfw trump lucked out and can just blame the inevitable recession on bat aids

>>17603904
>green
Not happening. People are fucking fleeing right now. Nobody wants to spend.

>>17603480
just wist till 5g is national
then everywhere will be wuhan

5g is the xfactor for corona

>>17603911
>pedo robot losers are shorting now
Bottom confirmed

>>17603935
And Bernie Sanders being a front runner with actual delegates this time.

>>17603943
The feds need to stop the fear by tomorrow or the market is fucking dead. Once people start seeing green and Trump goes into television and tell everyone it's ok we will stabilize.
This nothing burger virus is going to go away next week watch and things will be fine.

>lead is $1800 a pound

happening!


https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/lead-price

>>17603952
Explain

>>17603875
Think? Zoom in.

>>17603955
i'm unironically going long tomorrow
this is a huge buy signal
im not even joking

>>17603895
I see you have yesterdays graph

>>17603911
This bear really wants to fall out this window!

anyone here unironically gay?

>>17603955
bait

>>17603480
>disease spreads asymptomaticlly
>thinks this makes it LESS dangerous
SMOOTH BRAIN

>>17603963
We literally got a fifty basis point cut like two days ago. They only have one and a half of those left, if they do it every two days they'll be looking at NIRP in a single trading week.

>>17603494
>7/700 = 0.1%
burgercation

FUTURES ARE RECOVERING AT A RECORD RATE

WHY IS THIS HAPPENING

We will close at 24,XXX today

>>17604033
Jews Jewing Jews Jewing Goyim

>>17604033
10y bounce

>>17603443
I have lol. It’s pretty easy to see that the coronavirus and it’s effect on trade would cause a correction, not sure the full extent
You could see the fed intervening
And then see a dead cat bounce
And an obvious Biden win, taking out sanders would be good for stocks
Today was a return to average, with more bad news. Tomorrow will probably be another dump

>>17603967
corona is the bullet
5g is the gun

>>17604054
Seriously just watch the fucking bond yields and trade accordingly its that fucking easy. Futures tanked until 10y yield bounced at .80%

>>17604073
5g can't happen yet until we stop the chinks from trying to corner the market

>>17604054
>>17604080
No you are right. I'll have to watch it closer.

Futures bouncing back

>>17604080
Retard here. Why the relationship between 10yr and stocks.

>>17603762
Stop spamming for shit that isn't actually important. Reserve that shit for when bond yields hit 0

>>17604102
>>17604112
This has to be bait

>>17604127
He said he was retarded

>>17604001
Die Alone. There is nothing more pathetic than being a beta orbiter Agatha poster

>>17604124
agree with this Anon. Coronaposting is fun but we should talk about how to make money off this crash.

Then we freak out about infections. MSFT was fucked either way.

>>17604148
Why? They just send everyone home and shit, people are going to use Azure even more. I'd wager they've been preparing for people to work from home since january.

I doubt too many of their employees are going to die. I'm sure they have a bunch of boomers on the payroll though.

>>17604102
Cope

Fox news talking about Liz Warren dropping out of the race and the "communist democrat party" as the bond market shits itself.

How out of touch with this shit is the average american? Just spoke with someone who flew in from Australia, said it was just a regular flight.

>>17604282
cope

>>17604142
go back to /a/ faggot

>wake up
>see this
the U.S is gonna default, isn't it

>U.S. 10-year Treasury yield drops below 0.7%
wasn't it at .8% just a couple of hours ago?

Today is going to be awesome

>https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/drugshortages/default.cfm
you better get with the program boomers

>>17603777
did he died?

My thoughts & prayers are with the brokers who have to deal with panicking boomers right now lmao

lol
IT'S JUST THE FLU BRO!!
(coofs 10 yr dies of Corona Chan)

>>17606284
Holy shit dude
Good eye
Where’d you repost this from?

>>17603533
>I'm a new trader with only about $600 to spend right now. Any recommended stocks that seem like they will make good money?
kek nice b8

>>17603777
what a retard. well deserved

What happens if i let this expire? Does it sell automatically or do i get the shares of MGM? Should i just sell it now?

>>17606322
OH FUCK WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS BAD

THE PLANE HAS CRASHED INTO THE MOUNTAIN
WERE SO FUCKED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

If you short the S&P down 15% in a week, I think you’re insane.

buy the cheapies!!

>>17606315
Children have a near 0% death rate. Over 80’s have a 8%

>>17606350
https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/us-treasury-10-year-yields-fall-below-070-now-20200306

>>17606343
Just realized that I capped yesterday's close due my confused coombrain going on hyperactive levels due to this slide lmao

here are the true futures

>>17603494
>Cases which had an outcome: 6% death
This has been consistent so far

>>17603407
oh no no no no

Guys do you need to own the underlying stock to exercise an in the money put

>>17603400

future down -3%

when's the job report coming out?

>>17606410
about 2 hours.

>>17606410
https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/this-will-be-arguably-one-of-the-least-important-us-jobs-report-ever-20200306
lol

RIP US economy

>>17606447
I’ll drink to that

>>17606360
Fucking a dude 2.5% and 4% is quite different for futures indexes.

Still. My portfolio is already down big on premarket trading.

It’s gotta be too late to reposition, right? Gotta wait for a bounce? Fugg

i hope we get a big flush out today. i want cheapies

>>17606447
>RIP US economy
There's nothing wrong with the economy

>>17606483
there will be once over half of companies in the country are insolvent

>>17605966
Good God I'm so excited for you guys.

>>17606483
Don't try to make me feel better
Bears won
Time for a stagnant economy

uht oh

Today is genna be a fucking bloodbath

>>17606483
heh...

>>17606496
>>17606511
Not after I make this quick million it wont.

>>17606517
Seattle and the whole region is already fucked m8, not really relevant. Actually the whole US is fucked.

>>17606528
shipping is bottoming out?

Got up extra early to watch this play put. Whew.

>>17606551
Or about to continue a horror reversal and break multi-year lows.

>>17603400
>two biggest point gains in history
>stocks still going to end down for the week
Lol

>>17606551
Any memeing aside, there was a legit youtube video from some LA port chick yesterday and there's nothing there. Containers look like 10%, no trucks, nothing.
Where is boat

CRAAWWWWWWLLLLLIIIIINNNNGGGGGG IIIIINNNNN MMMMYYYYYYY SKKIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN

THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEAL

>>17606582
In Europe, exports are down because there's a lqck of shipping containers lol

Most of the containers are in locked down China and it takes weeks to get the shipping lines going properly again

Whatever small gains I made were eaten up by dollar dropping in value vs my home currency. Fuck FED.

I BECAME UNEMPLOYED LAST WEEK, HAVEN'T SLEPT IN 24 HOURS, AND BEEN DRUNK SHIT POSTING ON /BIZ/ AND /POL/ ALL NIGHT. MY LIFE IS SPIRALING OUT OF CONTROL. I HOPE THE EXCHANGE CIRCUIT BREAKERS GO OFF TODAY.

>>17606590
Yeah my brother has two extra sitting on his m8's farm and he saw this coming. Not exactly the deal of the century but nice for him to be right. A lot of this shit is obvious if you just know the business and look.

>>17606372
Yes. Just sell the contract.

10yr is cray

>>17606599
lmao i know that feel. King dollar might make a comeback still

>>17606619
Fucking hell

IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN, TUMBLING DOWN

I SAY CORONA YOU SAY SORRY

CORONA

>>17606640
DAS RITE

just lmaoing @ bears rn why don't you all just ryzen the fuck up already AMD is the greatest company to exist in our current era, they're going to be powering the next xbox, the next spaceX flight, every car in the world, and your fokin toasters. Lisa Su wins a nobel physics prize in 2027 for breakthroughs in quantum decoherence, AMD is worth $3,738 a share.

>>17606611
In contrast, last time I had this much fun was in 2010 when flash crash happened

you mongs still buying the dip?

VIX @ 15%.

My heart says green but the numbers say red.

lol WE WERE TOO COCKY BULLBROS

>>17606657
yeah using cash for now. if we get another major leg lower i start to sell bonds

>>17606654
I'm not goinna lie. It's been highly entertaining watching the markets collapse in real time day in and day out. Don't normally get to track the markets minute by minute.

>>17606619
WOOP WOOP
PULL UP PULL UP

>have wanted to start investing for a while but not autistic enough for extreme calls / crypto shit
>corona hits
>I think stock markets will drop soon and make a trading account on my bank
>transfer €8.000 to try it out last week
>stocks rise slightly, but I think it's temporary
>it is
>I decide yesterday this is the moment to get in
>Put €5.000 in Vanguard and Northern Trust ETFs with a worldwide spread (yes the S&P 500 ones will probably yield a bit more, but also riskier)
>Take the rest and start placing limit orders on local stocks that pay 4-6% dividends (I'm in The Netherlands) at around 5% lower than the daily opening will be for today
>markets fluctuate like fuck between 9-11AM, some of my orders take, some don't.
>I now own €5.000 in ETFs and €2.000 in single stocks (feelsweirdman)
>I want to commit to these holdings for at least 15 years and keep reinvesting the dividends + €500 each month for them compound gainz
>I still have €6.000 that I can miss to inject for when the markets dip even lower

How did I do so far?

>>17606619
Not going to lie, that chart gave me the creeps. Legitimate creeping skull and spine tingles.

>>17606668
NIRP incoming worldwide

Just shorted the Dow with 10k, wish me luck bros

Gonna have a blowout jobs report, then a short squeeze rally from support. Right?

>>17606650
You forgot nuclear bomb simulations

Lol
USD/YEN going down hard

>>17606679
>>I want to commit to these holdings for at least 15 years and keep reinvesting the dividends + €500 each month for them compound gainz
bretty good as long as you commit to this you will probably retire in a v good position. how old are you?

>>17606616
Wont that assign me to deliver the asset tho

>>17606350
I'm not aware if any children have been infected internationally. The death rate for children is almost entirely based on the Chinese numbers, and those numbers have no credibility. So, we don't really know if children have a 0% death rate.

>>17603553
Have the bear & corona-chan version

>>17606695
this chart was even from before coronachan hit

>Rick Santellis groveling on CNBC

>>17606705
>shorting the bottom

Kek

>>17606709
All strong currencies are raping the dollar's asshole

>>17606713
No. Contracts are seperate. You don't need to have the stock to sell contracts.

CDC is doing such a terrible job controlling this cold. Like why are they even testing people? You can't have new infections if you don't test for them.

>>17606679
Sounds good.
Might want to wait for bit cause we might go even lower but if you can stick to it for 15 years, good for you.

>>17606720
Love for you to attempt to explain how this is the bottom, 70iqer

>>17606720
>buy my bags please

>>17606723
Time to enter? Seems like a stable trend rn

>>17606718
they’re already restricted cash transactions to a maximum of $10k in Aus otherwise jailable offends. Even ask to withdraw $5k savings and they make you jump through hoops. Bank runs imminent.

>>17606720
There is no bottom. We going down

Digging my Dow 25K hat out of the closet

>>17606619
>>17606633

zoom out

>>17606711
Pretty old to start sadly, 28. I want to hold because I actually don't care all that much about money and stocks. I figured that doing ~200 hours of research now, and just setting it up so that a few hundred € + the dividends go into a few ETFs, and sometimes buying a stock here and there when the opportunity presents itself (like corona) will end up giving me a nice passive stream of income down the line without having to put much effort into it throughout the years.

>>17606619
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Are we going to hit circuit breakers today?

>>17606746

As if that will help with anything. Cash won't save you.

>>17606759
If it makes you feel better I'm in the same situation kind of. I spent most of my twenties paying my student debt.

>>17606736
>Warm weather incoming
>Supply chains operating again
>Only geezers and smoker fags die from it

Obviously travel and related industries are btfo but everything else should be flatish for awhile

>>17606732
Yes, that's why I kept €6.000. I figure that by injecting around a thousand a month for the next half year (on top of €500 out of my salary, which will be the 'normal' rate for the future), I minimize risks somewhat while still profiting off the economic downturn in the long run.

If you guys at least waited to short at the vwap when it has obviously failed to break up there you'd live a lot happier lives.
Yeah it might well break down here but into vwap st dev support at 25,280. You're just cutting your odds and potential risk/reward.

10 year yield going back up I think we might survive till next week the feds finally realized it was tanking hard.

>>17606724
Ty anon

>>17606746
is that applied to companies? if not then you should start one

Last year's yield inversion literally caused the coronavirus.

>>17606650
People who shill and are cancer

It pumps and dumps for no reason because neets all circle jerk about it

>>17606611
Weed bro, where's your trip??

>>17606779
>warm weather

Even if you believe the "hot temperature will kill the virus" meme, summer will end in over half the world, considering that the US and Europe will keep borders and airports open it will come back even in the best scenario.

Here we gooo show me your plunge face

AAAAAHHHHHH

>>17606796
Np :)

Guys, I have 80K in cash waiting to buy with.

Should I have that cash in a bank account waiting or is it safer in my Brokerage Accounts holding fund waiting to buy with? I am not sure what would be safer in a crash. I am thinking that in the actual Brokerage account might be better so a bank won't restrict my withdrawal.

>>17606756
I have no idea what this means and hope I have the correct graph but here it is zoomed out

>>17606831
GOLD
O
L
D

>>17606775
cash won’t save anything. but the herd will flock to the banks and atms like the greeks did

Latest from the futures front
>VIX almost +17%
LOL

>>17606833
Oh sorry, I thought your last image was supposed to be Boeing for some retarded reason. Disregard.

>>17606836
Kind of like what Barrick $GOLD has been saying about their preparations for the virus, but they’ve already pumped really hard.

>>17606833
Zoom in

>>17606775
Leaving all your money in a deposit is a nice way to have it blow up in a puff of smoke when the bank goes belly up.

>>17606840
I am so sad I sold my VIX call at a loss

>>17606840
Forgot pic

>>17606833

>>17606860
>>17606838
Okay, I will move it over to my Brokerage Fund then if that is what the majority here believes will be safer.

our time is at hand

>>17606848
didn't post anything else in the thread fren
>>17606852
uhm okay here

>>17606640
an apology? they deserved to be nuked

>>17606611
Bro, like just get a job haha. Like how is unemployment even real?

>>17606640
Death to China

>>17606640
lmao

>>17606831
The first time I decided to give up trading futures, the same Friday my broker went bust. I got it back because London FSA but you don't want that on your mind in these markets.

Who else here planning on buying cheap VIX puts for when Mr. Powell pumps the market again?

>>17603407

Aren't low yields good for stocks? What are people selling for, just to hold cash? I don't get how this crash gets much worse. Why would you sell, other than to buy in later? There is nothing else to invest in.

>>17606818
It’s not so much warm weather as greater humidity stops droplets from spreading the virus much more easily, I agree with your other points completely tho.

>>17606889
He's just fucking with you mate

>already down 600 points
1.2k+ down today?

>>17606943
don't wake me up on monday

>>17606881
Most pro traders don't keep all their money in their account for good reason. You don't need it in there and it encourages you to go full retard with over-leveraged trades. It's also much more likely for a broker to fuck you over than a bank.

>>17606931
>What are people selling for, just to hold cash?
They're panic buying, not selling, which is driving the yields down. The big boys cant park millions in normal bank accounts, since they're only insured up to $250K. They're buying what can provide safety.

>>17606640
>when china handles the virus better then the CDC/Trumps america

America is a banana republic

>>17606931
those low yields in this instance mean that money is fleeing the stock market and trying to get into the safety of t-notes and bonds. it means investors are trying to insure their money from the huge crash they believe is coming

>>17606960
China gives no shit about human life or dignity, they can just take old sick people and throw them into the incinerators, they also lie a lot.

>>17606926
Well where would you suggest I keep the cash so that I can wait til bottom to buy? I am with Vanguard and USAA which I feel are both reputable banks and brokers.

>>17606955
At this rate there wont be a monday.

>>17603407
Oh hey just woke up guys and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17606863
How would you feel if I told you that VIX futures are now +17,50%?

>>17606975
if you're in the US you dont have to worry about holding cash in banks/brokers since they're all FDIC insured up to 250k

>>17606957
this.
We all tend to believe the myth of the uber whale gods who push the market around. The reality when it gets like this is they are just bigger meat, they have to buy/sell and they really panic to do so sometimes.

>>17606983
Lol scratch that, VIX futures now nearing +18,50%

>>17606989
>muh FDIC
Pathetic brainlet.

>>17606863
Kek

Vix peaks before noon most of the time because all the traders do most of their work then

>>17606975
I'm a britfag so really can't say. I'm just stating a general principal. Without being a cunt another one is not taking advice on a mongolian cave diving forum kek. If you're govt backed and legit you're ok, or we're all dead anyway. But always be cautious, how many clowns have put all their money in an account, fat fingered it and then flapped around making it worse trying to get out of a hole. Lots.

>>17606994
>>17606983
>tfw hodl VXX puts
lel, they're fucked

>>17606974
True but it makes us look bad lmaooo

We just need testing kits and to make people stay home who are sick

>>17607032
Why would you be hodling fucking puts on VIX in this trading Environment

>>17606831
>Guys, I have 80K in cash waiting to buy with.
You can do half gold etf and rest as calendar leaps for Jan 15 calls.

Very conflicted about scaling out of my SQQQ and SPXU here premarket. I always hold too long but this setup makes me think things can only get worse and worse as the day goes on.

>>17606974
So the rest of the should be thankful then?

>>17607057
Things can only get worse as the weeks go on. Expect a reversal of downward trends only once a vaccine has been announced.

>>17607055
Actually good advice

Why are here? We only give bad advice here

>>17606881
>>17606831
>>17606860
This:
>>17606956
people didn’t lose their bank accounts in 2008, those are insured up to the hundreds of thousands. But people did lose their investment accounts with Lehman when that went bust. This is in regards to the US, don’t know about other countries.

I’m not terribly worried about keeping my money with Wells and Schwab. Even though those stocks are tanking, I don’t think it’s because my money isn’t safe.

However, robinhood... I have more and more reasons to pull out all the time. I might just sell my shit when I wake up and plow it right back into wells until I open up a TDA or Fidelity or Etrade account. I’ve just been too lazy to do it.

>>17606901
>>17606640
Bet you Trudeau apologizes, if he hasn’t already.

>>17607052

But VIX is guaranteed to go down unless you think +/- 4% a day is going to become a normal thing. Its just a matter of when.

>>17606640
I'm sorry, Great Chairman

>>17606705
as much as I hope we continue to go down today I agree with the other anon, I would not open short at this moment lad

>>17607022
Yeah, no doubt. I can totally see that temptation, I may go half and half just in case there was a breach of some sort.

PULL THE FUCKING BREAKERS ALREADY, I GOT FUCKING MEME'D INTO BUYING THE "DIP" YESTERDAY

>>17606759
i'm almost 27 and just started putting money into a vanguard ETF in Oct last year. you're doing better than the vast majority of people our age by even looking into and getting started so i wouldnt worry, just put in what you can and you'll be as good as you can be. and dont worry too much about timing the market.

Holy shit nosediving

>>17607081
Depends on the strike and exp dates I guess

>>17607089
What are the circuit breakers?

>>17606640
>China fucks up
>Chinese mad about USA and Japan
>CCP escapes without blame
Worked since 1950. Even better now apparently.

>>17607089
serves you right, boomer

>>17607079
But if you leave in Europe then you should be extra wary about all things bank related, no way governments are gonna be able to save every bank if things go as bad as i'm starting to think

>>17607089
AHAHAHAHAH SERVES YOU RIGHT FAGGOT, I ALREADY TOLD YOU THE BOTTOM IS WAY LOWER THAN YOU THINK

>>17606931
If you think what has happened so far is a crash, you'll absolutely panic if a real crash occurs. In previous decades, if we exclude the genuine crashes of 1999 and 2008, markets typically fell at least 25%.

As for low yields being good for stocks, it hasn't helped the Nikkei, which is still down about 50% from its all time high in 1990. Japan's interest rates have hovered near zero since 2000. The reason stocks went up in the U.S. are many-fold: firstly, the Fed immediately took action to reflate in the 2008 crash to prevent a self-reinforcing, deflationary spiral to set in; secondly, the Fed purchased USTs, mortgages, and junk to inject money into the economy. That money went through the banks which gave hedge funds and other speculators first crack at the money, which entered the stock market. Also, with record low interest rates, many corporations took to issuing bonds and using the proceeds to buy back stock.

As for nothing else to invest in, in times of extreme valuations, the best thing to do, typically, is to be in cash or low-yield, short-term Treasuries. The problem with creating inflation via debt is that it ultimately creates a deflation when the debt is repaid. I do not believe that has happened yet but with hypervaluation of financial assets, many players in the market realize that its an unstable house of cards. There is a limit to the amount of stock that can be bought, too, since corporations themselves are the biggest buyers of equities over the past few years.

Under sane circumstances, going to cash or short-term Treasuries would be the best thing to do. If you knew this was coming, the best move was to be in longer dated Treasury bonds. The longer the duration, the greater the capital gain. However, the long duration Treasuries trade is now very richly valued.

However, these are insane times and the central banks have exceeded the bounds of their charters. It is best to have a mix of assets.

>>17607089
You need to have a steady hand

As long as you didn't buy travel related securities, you're good

We'll be rocky for the next few weeks but level

>>17603400
>state of the market
https://youtu.be/1JITC1fo2HA

>>17607102
they think another emergency rate cut will reinflate some life into this bloated corpse we call an economy even tho the last one didn't do shit and futures are down almost 1000 right now

>>17607105
>the chink cries out in pain as he strikes you
I swear they're no better than the fucking Jews.

>>17607102
>Level 1 halt (7%)

Trading will halt for 15 minutes if drop occurs before 3:25 p.m.

At or after 3:25 p.m.—trading shall continue, unless there is a Level 3 halt.

>Level 2 halt (13%)

Trading will halt for 15 minutes if drop occurs before 3:25 p.m.

At or after 3:25 p.m.—trading shall continue, unless there is a Level 3 halt.

>Level 3 halt (20%)

At any time during the trading day—trading shall halt for the remainder of the trading day.

>>17607079
Can you transfer cash directly from Robinhood to TD? Also interested in doing this.

does it make any sense to buy puts now ? feels market will correct first

Next week is gonna be very interesting

I inject pure unadulterated volatility straight into my veins and I LOVE IT

>>17607158
Always adding to the conversation with your insights, thank you

>>17606729
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Corona Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Don't Test For It Nigga Just Coof Haha

>>17607118
>leave

I meant to type live, waking up earlier today is making my brain fart a little.

>>17607137
Israel is taking a lot more measures that us goyim to reduce the spread of the virus, they even shut down Bethlehem.

>>17606807
>shill
heh, nice try buddy. I'm from an alternate timeline. We've developed technology that allows us to collide particles together in order to create pocket dimensions that allow us to communicate with sister-realities. They're entire universes with worlds with people just like you and me, just slightly different. I don't actually physically exist in your world, I just send data to it. But since I'm just a few days ahead of this world's timeline, I'm able to buy stocks here and then cash out with the money in my world. It's so easy a caveman with a garage-sized particle accelerator can do it.

protip: market rallies monday. BIGLY.

>>17607158
If you try to shill snss ITT I swear to god

>>17607086
Wise decision. I'm not a stocks guy I just scalp fx/indices with leverage so it's more critical not to fuck up and safeguard capital and take losses fast. I am paranoid because I saw a lot of shitty brokers go down over the years.

>>17607171
>Heh nothing personnel kiddo

Fuck off and die

>>17607170
my views should be reserved for /pol/ but always watch and follow the jew money

what price should I short UVXY bros? Can I hope for 40+?

Why do people waste their money in casinos when this stuff exists?

At these levels we will end up closing down for the week, despite two of the days being the LARGEST AND SECOND LARGEST ONE DAY POINT GAINS IN HISTORY

>>17607079
Do you think that vanguard is as safe as the other options at this time?

>>17607120
>It is best to have a mix of assets.
Continued....

It is best to have a mix of assets because there is a great risk that the central banks will eventually get to a point where they create money without a corresponding debt or they lose control of their bond markets. In those cases, being 100% in cash and government debt will cause one to lose a tremendous amount of purchasing power.

One needs some equities and hard assets (real estate, commodities, precious metals) to protect purchasing power in the event of high inflation or monetary chaos. Cash is necessary for its optionality in the event we do get a genuine crash. Bonds are necessary, albeit very dear at current levels, in the highly unlikely event that deflation does take hold.

>>17607086
>>17607178
does the US have an equivalent to the FSCS?

AMD is swinging like crazy in the pre-market

>>17607190
In that case, hoard and prep seems to be the way to go.

>>17607123
Of course that's a fetish. Man, learn something new everyday.
*zzzzzzip*

>>17607216
>tfw bought AMD puts planning to sell at open at whatever % for a quick gain and its the only stock that isnt in the red
hope this changes...

>>17606298
>>17606335
i dont have the youtube link but he's fine, the bear continues on its way

>>17603400
How low is the DOW going to go? 16,000? 10,000?

I AM BUYING VIX PUTS

>>17607079
if you own stocks in companies, or ETFs, nothing happens if the broker goes bust -- you contractually own the underlying. The only time you could lose in an event like you're describing is if you own something like an exchange traded note (ETN).

We switching to VXX calls today buddehs?

Mass boomer seppuku when?

>>17606672
Former liar here. It's been highly entertaining watching the markets collapse in real time day in and day out, but we can't let this market have the nuclear circuit breakers.

>>17607156
personally I'd wait, a lot can happen over the weekend and today's red is probably more or less priced in already

>>17607254
how about AMD ? thinking of getting some puts there on opening

this here is the real problem. schools closing, parents staying at home, money not coming in, money not being spent.

UK 10 year opened at 0.33, now its 0.218

Jesus... how fucked must Vegas be already if they are exporting infected cases? This is how Iran and Italy started

look at this shit.
https://twitter.com/BadEconTakes/status/1235810967746793472
USA needs a reset.
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF JOURNALISTS

>>17607261
all the kids will be staying home and using opioids

bullish

>>17607261
that's why in Switzerland they decided not to close schools because it would make everything worse. Children wont die of this virus. Who will take care of them while the parents work? THe grandparents

>>17607261
Time to go all in on tencent

>>17606980

Mexico getting fucked hard.

>>17607269
The whole world is fucked chico

>>17607270
They're right though. Can you imagine what 1mm dollars per person would do for the economy?

>>17607270
imagine if he simply sent 1 mil to each citizen, I imagine he would get tons of votes from that

>>17607269
Apparently there's a big MMA event happening there this weekend too

>>17607222
kek. sitting on mostly cash and have some in gold and silver. I probably redeploy some cash in 5-6 months and drip back into market from there. I’ll either be buying on the way back up or will be trying to catch a falling knife. I’m no trader, just fundamentals.

>>17607269
Hello! Every fucking city on Earth will have infections. Imagine thinking you are sage in vegas

>>17606640
just a stupid screenshot with no source URL as fucking usual but i choose to believe this is true

because classic chinese government. they always redirect blame so that their people will not rise up against them. it's all about making chinese hate either Japan for war crimes or USA for keeping china down.

how many times have we heard "you've hurt the feelings of the chinese people" (knowing that most chinese have no idea whats even going on). that's a common card. saying someone is racist against chinese is also common even though they are the most racist nation on earth, constantly posting about how ugly they think blacks are on social media.

>>17607260
Probably a good idea but neets pump it and dump it for no reason so have a long term and steady hand

>>17607308

>>17607313
Bloomberg would have to have a net worth in the hundreds of trillions of dollars to do that. Assuming in that scenario that the USD has the same purchasing power as it does now, for Bloomberg to have that kind of wealth would probably mean he's part of the problem.

Guys, I don't think the world will end anytime soon

>>17607236
Long term or you'll be fucked

MSNBC talking about thi tweet? are they legit low IQ or is it just propaganda?

>>17607359
Would you bet all your money on it?

>>17607365
Both.

>>17607234
Fucking kek

The fear will subside and we'll go back up

>>17607368
Yes, if the world really does end money will be worthless anyway

>>17607308
https://www.imgur.com/gallery/XpuoN

>>17607335
here's the source URL that >>17606640 was too stupid to post
https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1235871996640145408

>>17607381
You will also get sent to the lowest circle of hell if you lose, would you still do it?

LET'S SWITCH HERE:

>>17603413
>>17603413
>>17603413

SWITCH HERE

>>17603413
https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/1760341317603413

>>17607329
Yeah but what happens in Vegas stays there so they have to export the .Cor file to keep gamble.exe running smoothly

>>17607378
>The fear will subside and we'll go back up
Knowing when this will happen will be great.

>>17607175
You mean that thing you should buy?

They’re getting desperate

>>17606974

Maybe they just seeing things as they are, without bullshit abstract concepts?

>>17607230
You should have expected it to do better than the market considering their conference yesterday.
I didn't know if it would be good enough to overpower the drop in the overall market so I sold before close.

>>17607388
Implying?

>>17607222
Checked

>>17607284
Schools closing is foremost about preventing spreading

I’m about to be a millionaire

>>17607742
by shorting DB? Maybe you will get +40% if you're lucky before German government will take over

>>17606640
Stop spreading anti China sentiment. They are asking an apology from the WallStreetJournal for a derogatory article.

>>17606679
Same start but now up to 22000 two week later because I went short