/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17459095
burgers freaking out

so get prepared? it never hurts to stock up on basic supplies.

>>17459095
Which one is causing more panic?

COVID-19: Approximately 2,770 deaths reported worldwide; 0 deaths in the U.S., as of Feb. 26, 2020.

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

as it should.
black thursday tomorrow.
screen cap this post.

>>17459095
when it hits the UK and US hard, mid-march, panic mode will set in

>>17459162
It hasn't had the same opportunity to spread as its new

>>17459239
smart money, the HFs, will pull out of stocks well before that. a crash is inevitable at this point.

>>17459095
I have like 10 pounds of spaghetti and I just bought a 25 pound bag of rice. And I have 15pounds of dried fruit on the way.
Will I make it?

>>17459239
Alright, what the fuck do I invest in? Gold? Do I short indexes? I'm honestly all in crypto right now, but I see a recession coming big time.

>>17459257
its a good start. do you have a gun? if not get one asap.

>>17459252
This is a controlled demolition of the market and there is something more sinister at play here. They are trying to pass a law or enforce a new policy under the guise of keeping us safe. Government is tightening it's grip on the people and everyone is blind to it.

>>17459162
US: only ~500 so far tested by the CDC; testing kits that were supposed to go around the country for faster and wider testing is delayed for ONE FUCKING MONTH.

America's CDC right now: "There are no cases in US if we don't test at all :)"

Also CDC: if you did not get tested for coronavirus and you die from the virus, we will still say the person did not die from coronavirus (because you were not tested).


Other countries: able to (and already did) test thousands every day.

>>17459321
america will be humiliated once it has more cases than China in 1-2 months because half the population can't afford a hospital visit

>>17459301
China is already using this outbreak as an excuse to eliminate cash and further expand censorship and surveillance (e.g. more facial recognition cameras)

>>17459162
Learn some basic epidemiology, you goddamn caved in head retard

>>17459321
Also CDC: we do not test for coronavirus if you were not from Wuhan China or had direct contact with a confirmed coronavirus patient

Basically saying that America is going to pretend an outbreak is not happening.

>>17459321
Do you think every case of someone being infected is being tallied? People are catching this shit and getting nothing more than a sniffle not even realizing they have it. The flu is more dangerous and doesn't get this kind of attention. They just have a new buzzword and scare tactic to throw around to cause panic because they are up to something behind the scenes.

>>17459162
People need to understand one thing; this kind of pandemic, rehersed just 3 months before it became public in China, is something world governments have agreed to deal with global coordination. China is not fudging numbers to "save it's bussiness". China is doing it as a coordinated effort with "the west". We got some two months more time to prepare without public freaking out about what is now happening. China numbers are total shit and we are all already infected.
!!!!!!!More resources for the survivors of the first wave!!!!!!

>>17459296
I have my dad's S&W 38 Police Special
also
9mm H&K
45 H&K
S&W 500 Magnum
Model 500 Mossberg 12 gauge
Olympic Arms AR15
And a Mossberg lever action 30-30

>>17459369
>The flu is more dangerous
The flu has a higher death count because of sheer numbers. The death rate of this new virus is many, many times greater.

Also my point of the CDC testing basically nobody right now is still a fact.

>>17459239
This is exactly how it’s gonna go down. I’m stockpiling some water, canned food, and supplies. Will likely be purchasing a couple guns in the next week or so. Not necessarily because of corona chan but it makes me realize that if this disease was actually super deadly and caused a mass panic I’m not prepared for shit at the moment. Emasculating feeling desu

>>17459384
okay yeah you're good lmao

>>17459395
Even in the worst hit areas of Wuhan the electricity, gas and water all still work perfectly fine. I doubt this is SHTF. Just a happening.

It is unironically happening.

>>17459162
Stop looking at the numbers and look at the situation. A billion people in China aren't allowed to leave their rooms in spite of the repercussions it will have on the world's economy. Now we know it's spreading all over the planet, to places that are less hygienic than China like Los Angeles. It is bound to have an effect.

>>17459427
I agree for the most part. Again, it’s not really this particular scenario that disturbs me. It’s that I would be completely fucked if this was a legit shtf scenario. It is a redpilling moment that I couldn’t protect the people around me and have a plan of action.

>>17459459
Well it doesn't hurt to always have a few shooties and a good amount of dried goods.

If there is no happening, you can eat those foods later.

>>17459384
based

>>17459459
True. God forbid shit does hit the fan, I have enough food stored, and I have plenty of fruit/vegetable producing plants + chickens. Still, I hope shit doesn’t hit the fan, I quite enjoy my life

>>17459447
>to places that are less hygienic than China
Like where now?

>>17459447
>places that are less hygienic than China like Los Angeles.
I’m not saying that Los Angeles is the golden bastion of hygiene but have you been to China? They don’t wash their hands, and shit is pretty filthy. It’s a different type of grime. Parts of LA are absolutely disgusting, but China, on the whole, have abysmal hygienic standards

I'm pretty sure the markets are more spooked by the possibility of Bernie Sanders being elected than some nothingburger virus.

>>17459447
>A billion people in China aren't allowed to leave their rooms
Imagine believing it's a billion lol.

Fucking retard

Why

>>17459095
It should

>>17459524
There's a large casino very close to where I live. As you walk in from the mall into the actual casino main floor there is a sign written in English and Chinese that says "No Spitting".
Not Spanish
Not French
Not Hindi
Just Chinese.
Why would that be?

>>17459095
This is going to be bad isn’t it? What’s it like euro bros?

>>17459095
go fuck yourself normalfaggot. 4chan has always been a doomsday board, if you dont welcome the end of times, go back to plebbit. go fuck yourself

Bros this shit is on the fucking CDC website. They're not even trying to hide it. What is the smart play here investing wise? I'm already gonna try to stock up on rice beans, pasta, and dried fruit tomorrow. Do I buy gold? do I short? I don't think this shit is going to btfo society, but it's gonna fuck the markets.

>>17459641
Whoops

>>17459162
>A long preexisting disease has killed more people than a new disease that hasn't even truly spread yet

>>17459660
>15% critical case rate
>hospitals run out of ventilators
>hospitals run out of staff to man ventilators
>hospitals run out of staff, after they all get ill
what happens here

>>17459641
whatever you think you'll need to be a neet. your list is good, but add water, wet wipes, batteries, antibacterial soap and hand sanitizer, candles, anti diarrhea meds, and bic lighters. if you're afraid of the lights going out for whatever reason, get a solar charger too.

>>17459332
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>>17459695
Half-Life 3 is released

For the 2nd time, the cdc uses estimators and counts people who had flu like symptoms to get these crazy flu death numbers. They use this to shill flu vaccines. I know you guys are smarter than this. Stop using the flu kills thousands every year as some sort of way at saying this strain is nothing to be scared of.

>>17459447
Imagine respiratory problems caused by legalized weed.
Russia is fucked even more. Putin is literally shaking right now on tv, they have no money to stop the economy, no money for ground disinfection, besides they have tb epidemic. They will sell oil to China for pennies.

>>17459576
There's a lot of international airports that have this sign kek

>>17459395
you wont need any of that stuff. if looters come to your door just start coofing. they will think you are sick and wont get near you.

>>17459162
Quess what the numbers will be when it has had time to spread properly?

>>17459447

>less hygenic than china

Im not so sure about that, honestly the US is in a good position to recover from this virus if it gets its act together. The next 3 months are going to be brutal, and the road to recovery will be long an arduous but society in general will return to normal within a year, by then market is going to drop another 25% or more and a new business cycle begins anew.

>>17460138
are you telling me that china released corona virus to counter usa destroying their oil supply from iran?

>>17459432
Is 1% that fast a big deal? I dont follow stocks or whatever the dow is.

>>17459576
they saved the hindi for the "no pooing" sign

>>17459447
>Now we know it's spreading all over the planet, to places that are less hygienic than China like Los Angeles.
Lost

Who is dying? Is it old folks and babies as usual? Or are healthy, upper middle class burgers at risk too?

>>17459352
>America is going to pretend an outbreak is not happening.

>>17461052
Not sure. If it was planned at all, then have to compare the numbers, see who benefits the most.

>>17459095
Melbourne Hospital reports "evil racist Australians" that refuse to let filthy asians near their kids. Godspeed Bruce

>>17459257
not without some UND in case the Illuminati wins

>>17459162
>its just the flu bro

>>17461546
that video was worthless and probably not even corona-related.

Tachyon IPX Token provides the economic incentives which encourages participants to contribute and maintain the ecosystem on Tachyon Protocol.

>>17459095
Chloroquine cures it. (Greatly reduces mortality rate). It protects the lungs from severe injury giving the body much longer to fight it & seems to attack the virus directly by binding to the RNA. It's also an extremely cheap & readily available anti-malarial drug, your doctor will prescribe you some if you ask for it & tell them you're going on a jungle trip in Mexico & are worried about malaria.

>>17459540
750 million still isn't a small number

>>17459252
>It hasn't had the same opportunity to spread as its new
Lmao brainlet. So is the flu every year.
Did you think it was the same strain circulating every year or something?

>10-20x more lethal than the regular flu (seasonal flu kills .01-.02% of the population; corona kills 11% of elderly and 2% of general population)
>R0 is predicted to be at 4-7 by most estimates, some even higher; seasonal flu is 1.5 (3x as less or more)
>already worse than smallpox by infection rate
>asymptomatic

THIS IS FINE NOTHING TO SEE HERE HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>17459524
I've seen shit on the street in LA. It's pretty bad lol

>>17462240
don't forget
>14 day quarantines ineffective as COVID can incubate for up to 27 days
>reinfection likely according to Chinese doctors
>FBI stockpiling supplies across the country
things are going to get rough.

>>17462240
Also technically considered a SARS virus at this point after the renaming
Also has killed healthy adults with no preexisting conditions
Also is already in California
I know someone that works for a supply chain company and they’re already having issues with imports due to this. It’s going to fall apart when this becomes a serious national issue doing to how contagious it is. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. The public panic is not going to be good when whole states have public services (incl. emergency) shut down

>>17462123
then why is everyone freaking out

>>17462123
>Chloroquine
that shit can also blind and deafen you

>>17462123
This sounds exactly like the movie contagion where that faggot said that forsythia was the key to the cure lmfao. You’re a fucking retard if you think we’re any less than 16 months away from a vaccine, by which the virus will already have run its course on the fucking planet

>>17461077

it's gonna end up being down 10% or more this week. that's pretty huge.

>>17459095
Make sure be checking /cvg/ threads on /pol/

Usually has an infodump like this:
http://pastebin.com/raw/qy5RFpVX

>>17461077
The stock market should never do that in a single day. -2000 points in 2 days is absolutely fucking unbelievable. People were saying it was minor the first day because 1000 points now is like 500 points years and years ago, but 2 days in a row like that is bonkers

>>17459352
t-that armor doesn't look anything like in the movies...

>start to get a little nervous of Corona
>realized I pretty much never leave my apartment anyways

anyone who is afraid of this virus is such a pussy. literally just a slightly worse flu, only people who die are boomers. a fucking 36 hour old baby survived covid19. this shit is weak.

I should just get infected on purpose then vlog the recovery on youtube, that shit would go viral

EDIT: THANKS FOR THE GOLD KIND STRANGER

EDIT 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

>>17462396
gonna suck when your pizza delivery driver that you don’t tip can’t show up with your nutritional grease because half the store is sick or half dead. I don’t think you realize this will affect everyone, including basement dwellers that rely on the bare minimum of outside activity

>>17459162
Flu death rate is 0.02%

Corona death rate is 2%

Incubation period for corona is half a month to a month.

That is the textbook pandemic if I've ever seen one.

Getting spooked is a spook.

>>17462425
I actually learned how to bake pizzas because I'm paranoid of this happening

>>17459162
This is an argument on the level of:
"How is climate change real when its snowing in february?"

>>17462123
don't listen to this anon the cure is a mixture of ammonia and bleach, inhaled directly from the bowl for as much as you can stomach it. this kills the virus and clears your airways.

>>17462465
thats fucking hilarious that your first thought is not to buy canned fruit, meat, or even stuff that’ll expire in months that’s small. it’s some fucking pizza. you can only stick like 5 of those in your shitty little freezer at a time, right? when supply chains are cut off, you really don’t think other autists and fatties aren’t going to wreck the frozen pizza section? gl finding anything when that happens, it’s not far away desu

>>17459629
Mad fag, why are you so mad?

Use puts to protect your portfolio anons.

If markets crash I'll just use the profits from here to buy even more linkies

>>17462496
no, I meant I learned it long before this virus thing because I don't trust wagies. It's insane how much cheaper it's to make stuff yourself than it is to order it

>>17459162
LIKE FUCKING CLOCKWORK WITH THE SHILLS

>>17459660
>NYC population: 8,4 million
>can't afford more than 1200 beds for coronapozzed patients
absolute state of burgers

>>17459095
It's a nothing burger. The hysteria is a mixture of:

>CIA/deep state trying to crash the markets (they probably even created the goddamn thing).
>Boomers panicking because they know they're fucked, and as usual all of society has to revolve around those selfish useless old leeches.
>Incels on /pol/ desperately hoping for society to end so maybe they have a shot of being the post-apocalyptic Chads

This fucking thing can't even kill babies or pregnant women. 99% of anyone who matters will be fine.

>>17459095
>Infected: 67,921
>Death count: 1,964
How many days has it been like this?? Two day? Three days? Four days? Stop shilling your stupid faggot virus.

>>17462648
>Infected: 67,921
Funny thing is it's way more than that, so it's even more pathetic.

Not even one baby has died of it, and these pussies are scared lmao

>>17462689
I cum about 5-10 times each day

>>17462689
Ah geez dude wrong post no, my bad

Every single reply to this post: >>17459162
is a panic shill.

Wow, surely this is a perfectly organic movement and not a concerted fearmongering campaign.

>>17459301
People are sheep and are stupid. Only problem is those people become the law enforcement. So yeah this is a problem I guess. Depends on govs endgame. If they're just keeping the system fluent then should be fine

>>17462971
ngmi

>>17463280
uh huh

>>17459095
More ppl died of normal flu this year, yet faggots are scared about some corona virus.

>>17462425
>>17462396

I'm fucking scared, I'm basically a neet living off the GI bill from prior service but I still have to attend college to keep the money coming, how the fuck do i present myself from getting snozzed during class.

>>17459162
People like this are the reason crypto is profitable.

>>17463300
your chart is stupid as fuck

>>17463462
The total number of active cases is dropping worldwide, despite your chart.

Deal with it.

>>17463353
This.
We need more people like him who can put things in proper perspective.

>>17463473
>The total number of active cases is dropping in china, despite your chart.

>>17463496
This chart: >>17463300
is global.

>NOOOOOOOOOO SOME CHINKERINOS ARE DEADERINO NOW IM SCAREDINO!! WHAT WILL KEANU AND MY PUPPER DO???

>>17463501
this chart is using data from china, which makes it unreliable because you are neither in china, nor should you trust data from china nor does it makes sense to label this chart "worldwide" if most of the data points are from china

>>17463514
>Ch-China is lying now but wasn't lying then!
k

>>17463528
china was lying from the very beginning

>>17463532
Then you agree the number is indeed dropping.

>>17463538
idk what the fuck you want, chinas self reporting numbers are dropping, but who the fuck cares
your chart is stupid because most of the data from it is from china, which makes it unusable
the same chart without china data would be helpful

>>17463550
>number goes up
>"SEE IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD, EVERYONE PANIC"

>number goes down
>"uhhh that's just China lying"

>>17462271
>>FBI stockpiling supplies across the country
Sauce?

>>17459095
Have a look at this thread. it's been going all night.

>>>/pol/245545170

>>17461546
Looks like a mental hospital. I bet people there are being forced to die. This virus was manufactured to end lives and showcase an epidemic.

>>17463557
why is it so difficult for you to understand that 95% of your charts data points are from china and therefor not relevant for most people?

>>17463629
Literally 95% of all Corona cases are in China.
That means 95% of your panic fodder comes from China.

Saying "don't trust the Chinese" hurts your case, not mine.

The corona virus is being used as a cover for the obvious revaluation of domestic markets. It will end red today as well. this is the beginning of the end of the US dollar as the fiat currency.

>>17459162
Did Flu crash the Chinese Economy and close all Schools in Japan?

>>17463652
>The corona virus is being used as a cover for the obvious revaluation of domestic markets.
This.

>this is the beginning of the end of the US dollar as the fiat currency.
Thisn't.

>>17459384
I only have a Chinese pistol crossbow that will break the first time I shoot something and a shitty Buck knife that is missing a screw. The people around me only will have box cutters however. Will I make it?

>>17463658

>>17463659
Once people realize that they're not being forced to trade in dollars and hold US securities they'll only need a catalytic to dump what they didn't want anyway, our economy has been pretty unattractive lately to long term investiture. this is the opposite end of that and it's got to do with China and Iran and China and Iraq being BFF's now.

>>17463658
That's the point. This panic is bs and potentially more harmful than the actual virus.

>>17463683
>Once people realize that they're not being forced to trade in dollars and hold US securities
haha k

>>17463659
They used the corona virus as cover because that way trump still looks competent but there's also no danger of a manipulated crash in November. Here's an alternate to that though, what if they wanted to bring this bubble down on trumps head, what if this was the FED and Trump having a fight. the FED didn't see Corona coming and now their fake collapse/Election surprise has become very fucking real very fucking quickly. OOORRRR trump saw this coming (or someone did) and they're now trying to get this obvious bubble (especially in the repo markets) out of the way before the election.

>>17463642
idc about china and what they do over there
but if you still believe that the aftermath of this still won't be multiple times worse than what the media and government want you to believe then you will have a rude awakening
you and me certainly won't die from this, but many people over the age of 50 will
this shit will be around for the next 2-3 years

>>17463708
>"idc about china"
>uses figures that are 95% from China to spread panic

You tried.

>>17463691
We were supposed to go to war with Iran. Iran was defying sanctions and trading with the Chinese, we told them to stop, China told us to suck dicks. We escalated more and more, culminating in the US having two options, either force our will on Iran (in regards to oil) militarily, or admit we cannot back our threats with any real meaningful impact. (which is what happened) why would Iran listen to us now? why would anyone listen to us? China called our bluff...

This is from the 20th

Here's the day before yesterday. talking about Wednesday morning.

>>17463724
where do I use china figures?

>>17463766
95% of muh pandemic figures are Chinese.

>>17463766
This virus is literally less lethal than the common flu. it's a scapegoat for the collapse of US markets. they've gotta bring the targets back under the pre-2017 figures or there's going to be a crack up.

What does the word billionen mean to you? or Weimar?

If the answer is nothing, buckle up...

You ever seen a trillion dollar bill? Well, you're about to see a lot more of them...

>>17463828
>>17463793
>>17463779
>>17463747
>>17463727
>>17463703
Peak doomer over here.

>>17463850
Tell me why I'm wrong.

>>17463775
but that doesn't matter, I merely used the "official" numbers to tell you that most of the data points from your chart are from china and therefor not relevant for most people here
but whatever, the infection count outside of china doubles every 6 days, in one month there will be more reported cases outside of china than inside

I would bet that there's more than a few people trying to mitigate the coming onslaught.

They're probably going to try to allay fears of the virus in an attempt to lessen the effects that panic will have on the market.

To those people I say this. Unless there's a way to magically stop this virus from spreading or conversely stop NEWS of this virus spreading... from spreading, this retraction will continue unabated into a reseccion.

>>17463876
>look at these pandemic numbers which are 95% Chinese
>just disregard the Chinese part of it

>>17463895
lol recession*

>>17463895
>Unless there's a way to magically stop this virus from spreading
Apparently the Chinese found it.
They've been slowly getting back to their normal working lives for weeks now, and their numbers are dropping.

>>17463896
k

>>17463904
Well that's good to hear!

Can they get that method/magic to the US in the next two days? or by next Tuesday at the latest? Oh shit, no, they can't because this shit is just starting in the US and every new case and school closure and train station quarantine and travel ban is going to drive it deeper and deeper

>>17463926
And the fact that cases are dropping in China doesn't say anything?

>>17463928
>every new school closure and train station quarantine and travel ban is going to drive it deeper and deeper
Well yes.

>>17463904
You seem to be confused as to what's actually happening. Are you aware the Federal government injected 45 billion dollars into the market yesterday to stave off an artificial stop?

How about the 1.5 trillion dollars printed in 2019 to float the repo markets?

>>17463943
You sound like a rambling conspiracy theory hobo.

>>17463939
We have infinitely further to fall before the market is outside of volatility minimums. I'm talking about a return to 2016 numbers. (which will of course mean a tractile recession in terms of market confidence and currency energy/velocity.) this is about FAR more than this virus, this virus was probably the ONLY unplanned aspect of what the FED has been doing for the last four years.

>>17463779
wrong you fucking retard. orders of magmitude wrong you fcking absolute piece of shit fucking idiot. heres normie bullshit saying you are wrong but best estimates are 18% pneumonia rates and the critical cases compared to total are fuckung huge. you are a stupud fucking faggot

www.livescience.com/amp/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

>>17463933
no, china is not representative
they can probably handle this shit 100x better than any other country, because they will just do whatever it takes

>>17463965
>no, china is not representative
But 95% of figures are from China.

If you disregard China, there's practically nothing.

>>17463953
That's not an argument, that's an ad hominem attack against my credulity, stop attacking me and attack my argument. debate me, tell me why I'm wrong. Something...

>>17463976
Nah I'm good.

>>17463965
EXACTLY. there's likely not another nation on earth that could so easily gain total societal compliance. without any real resistance or idivid-think.

I am living in China and they are only letting one person out of each apartment at a time. A lot less people outside so I'm not surprised it's dying down and declining a bit. Literally everyone wearing a mask too. I've seen tons of fake videos circulating on 4chan claiming its coronavirus victims when it's hilariously not.

Flying to Thailand tomorrow night, I'm a little worried but not shitting my pants scared. If this shit becomes a seasonal flu we are all gonna catch it eventually.

>>17459162
JUST A FLU BRO

>>17463980
Well then stop telling me I'm wrong unless you're prepared to at least articulate how and why...

>>17463993
>Well then stop telling me I'm wrong
No lol

>>17463953

>>17463971
almost 4000 reported cases which are probably from infected people from 7-14 days ago
but it really doesn't matter, if there are 40 or 4000
this shit can't be quarantined anymore, which means that most of the people on this planet will be infected at least once at some point

>>17464000
You haven't engaged a single point I made. you've told me that I'm wrong twice you've yet to tell me why on either count...

>>17464016
>You haven't engaged a single point I made.
Sure I have.

>>17464013
>this shit can't be quarantined anymore
Neither can the flu, which kills tens of thousands every year in the US alone.

>>17464026
No you haven't all you've done is tell me I'm wrong. you've not said why.

>>17464026
You've called me a doomer, a conspiracy theorist, actually, now that I think about it, you've only really insulted me... you're just trying to either make me feel stupid or destroy my credibility,

>>17464043
Why are you so desperate for attention?

>>17464026
but this shit is probably more lethal then the flu, plus nobody knows what the long term effect are and what happens if you get re-infected in the second or third wave

>>17464026
the flu comparision is getting lame, just scale up the deathrate and then lets see if its just "tens of thousands" if the whole US is infected

>>17464026
Either way, it just makes you look uninformed and reactionary. anyone who sees this will see me making easily verifiable points and you trying desperately to construct an opinion of me without actually saying anything of substance...

>>17464066
>>17464073
Mostly elderly and/or sick people are dying from it, just like the flu.

There's an entire ship with Corona that's been quarantined for over two weeks now, and only four people died out of 3,700; all in their 80s.

>>17464064
There we go, another disparagement... PLEASE, either engage me reasonably with a counter-narrative or stop replying to my posts because they're clearly not for you...

>>17464026
this "flu" is alot heavier on the hospitals than the normal flu we have every year, the normal flu also never goes away, there's always cases keeping it alive until it flares up with several different strains from within the population.
this shit started in one spot on the globe, not everywhere, and its already at a quarter of your lowest death count.

>>17464085
>PLEASE engage me

>>17464089
They've been reporting COV cases as the regular flu for months. (presumably before they knew what it was)

>>17464089
>this "flu" is alot heavier on the hospitals than the normal flu
Because so many more people are going to hospital because of the scare.

Whether for flu or Corona, the best thing is to stay at home.

This thread has relevant info regarding the crash.

>>>/pol/245528786

>>17464099
even with the low estimates, just the confirmed cases, its not something to be ignored

>>17464103
stay at home is true
it would be best to not end up with another endemic flu

>>17459629
This. To be fair you need a high iq to understand 4chan

>>17464123
Absolutely. It's especially dangerous for the elderly. There's no reason to NOT start a panic lol, especially when it will just fix america faster than without panic...

>>17459427
I agree but just saying that Chinas infrastructure is far superior to the United States, and since everything is government owned and operated they're able to ensure consistency in their shipping logistics.

With us if a large shipping logistics company or distributor closes shop then it will effect a % of the goods delivered to local grocery stores and the like

>>17464142
Here's the list of ports with impending quarantine.

>>17459095
Are you 85+ years old or did you just fall for the coronavirus meme?

>>17459301
I have a feeling that's the case.

>>17464150
Fell for the may i'd say.

Think about how spooky the media is being.

>>17464152
GO here

>>>/pol/245528786

>>17464080
yeah, but people on this ship are basically in an intensive care unit, where it's almost impossible to die
if the lethal rate would be so low, then great
but if you look at Italy, then it looks like the rate is about 2-3% where most (all?) of the death are from elderly people as well
but like I said, we don't know anything about long term effects and re-infections as well as how things develop if people panic and what the long and short term economic effects are

>>17464138
panic would be much worse than any virus could be alone, and it would compound the effect of the virus
the easiest way is to say as little as possible but hint towards prepping a little bit, then come down hard later

but this will prove ineffective too

>>17464152
The corona virus scare is being used to cover a recession that's been in the making since 2017 when the quasi-QE started.

The repo markets and the shale markets are about to go off a cliff, as evidenced by banks refusing to lend to each other.

This is only the beginning, we're staring down the barrel of 72 trillion dollars in debt. the US printed 1.5 trillion in 2019 alone. we're at like 500% debt to GNP.

If by tomorrow afternoon the US government isn't able to magically rid the US of this virus, this will only deepen. especially given the purposefully late printing of news concerning developments in infections and exposure domestically.

Honestly? I think he had a fight with the fed and they've been trying to give him what's called a false backing. they (IMO) planned to bring the entire bubble down on his head in the run-up to the election. but either the corona thing ran it early or they got wind of it and are using this to reverse the course of the FED without making trump look like an absolute fucktop. My head has been awash with possibilities since like two months ago. wondering what they were going to do with this bubble.

not flat, red. the only way it goes flat is if they perform massive injections. and even then, each successive day is going to require more and more. they'll eventually be unable to collateralize their printing against the IMF repayment schedule we have currently.

This virus is not the cause of the market volatility, it's the scapegoat for it. This isn't even as deadly as the flu. this is a sad attempt to bring china's GDP to zero while giving trump an excuse to not look like a chungus for ballooning an already unhealthy economy. (even though it's not even his fault and is actually the FED's doings.)

>>17459336
Really. Chinese cinemas are getting people to register their address details when purchasing tickets so they can be contacted if need be. This alone casts doubt over the efficacy of their surveillance network

>>17459162
prepare yourself for seasonal corona. it isn't going anywhere

Guys, they waited til AFTER the markets closed to announce the new cases on long island and in texas. they did this to stop further sell-offs, what do you think traders are going to do this morning? DOW futures are already down 180 points and the market hasn't even opened yet...

>>17462123
any malaria medicine will help

>>17462625
you will feel sorry

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>>17464256
LOL holy fuck

>>>/pol/245510483

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/26/investing/premarkets-dow-sinks/index.html

OF course CNN goes with the most abusively alarmist headline they can...

You'll also probably want to read this.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/crackup-boom.asp

>>17464256
>>17464267
>>17464283
>>17464287
Are you ok buddy?

>>17464163
>people on this ship are basically in an intensive care unit
Right.
But the people in actual hospitals aren't?

>>17463565
> his asshole.

>Shorting the Stockholm stock exchange with 25% of my savings
Hopefully I wont regret this, but knowing my country is nowhere near prepared for Covid19, and the migrants causing all sorts of trouble, I have a strong feeling things will go down down down once it really hits us.

>>17464483
they are probably treated the same way an average person from a first world hospital would be treated right now
if not a little bit better, since a lot of experts were rushed there to study the virus as well
but most people on this world will not get serviced on a similar level, and even people in first world countries will get serviced subpar once the medical staff is exausted and supply chains weaken
ffs americans even had problems getting working test kits, and hawaii still has none afaik
also btw, on the cruise ship there are still 45+ persons in serious conditions, so we will still have to wait 1-2 weeks before getting a clearer picture about the actual lethal rate

>>17464819
>they are probably treated the same way an average person from a first world hospital would be treated right now
Except with a huge mass of people packed like sardines on a chaotic quarantined ship from hell.

>>17464828
ever been on a cruise ship?
everybody gets his own cabin where he can be easily quarantined and every level can be easily quarantined as well
if I get this shit then I would wish that they could fly me there
normal hospitals can/will be overrun and neither the staff nor the facilities are better suited for such an scenario than an average cruise ship

>>17464912
>everybody gets his own cabin where he can be easily quarantined
Except that's not what's been happening on this ship.

Kentaro Iwata, an infectious diseases expert at Kobe University who visited the ship, strongly criticised the management of the situation in two widely circulated YouTube videos published on 18 February.[28][29][30] He called Diamond Princess a "COVID-19 mill".[31] He says the areas possibly contaminated by the virus weren't in any way separated from virus-free areas, there were numerous lapses in infection control measures and that there was nobody in charge of infection prevention as a professional, the bureaucrats were in charge of everything.[32]

>>17463565
>>17462271
My friend who works at a national hardware retail store told me that the government is going to be halting sales of gas masks and his manager got the orders down from corporate (possibly to hoard it for themselves? agencies, military etc).

>>17459095
FALSE FLAGGING FAGGOTS WILL NEVER MAKE IT. CORONA IS A MEME. WUHAN NOT EVEN AFFECTED ANYMORE, FACTORIES REOPENED. FUCKING NORMIE FAGGOTS LEAVE THIS BOARD

>>17464938
>Except that's not what's been happening on this ship.
it's a cruise ship, most passenger have their own cabin, the crew is probably fucked though
about the general "health" of this ship idk, maybe they viewed the whole ship as infected and therefor didn't care about decontamination
don't think your regular hospital won't be fully contamined after some time as well

>>17465113
>it's a cruise ship, most passenger have their own cabin
... which they are not staying in.

>>17465118
idk, I haven't followed what happening on there that closely
but my point still stands, at this moment you can compare the treat given on this ship with an average first world hospital which is under low/medium stress
but this shit will hit 3rd world country hospitals, as well as first world hospitals with medium to high stress levels in big cities much harder

>>17465176
That cruise ship is in an advanced state of chaos, with nearly 4k people all packed together on a single ship.

>>17465195
source?

>>17465113
A cabin with air conditioning. So if this is airborne then if one person has it today, pretty much everyone has it tomorrow.

Cruise ships are notorious for spreading shit like legionnaires disease. This could easily be the same.

>>17465230
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_on_cruise_ships#Diamond_Princess

>>17465237
>Cruise ships are notorious for spreading shit
This.
It's a nearly perfect petri dish for disease.

>>17463660
With ingenuity prisoners make weapons you have more availability of products so make something

>>17463779
Flu is less than a percent you dumb kike this is around 4%

>>17465253
The next day on 20 February, Iwata removed his videos and apologised to those he got involved, although he still insisted the situation on the ship was chaotic.[36][33] A preliminary report by Japan's National Institute of Infectious Diseases (NIID) estimated that most of the transmission on the ship had occurred before the quarantine, although it was based on the first 184 cases.[36]

I though the would be some video showing a group of people causing chaos or something

>>17465237
true, but I think chances to get infected in a regular first world hospital are about equal once they host a sufficient number of cases

>>17465355
His videos did show advances stages of chaos.

>>17465352
Probably around 10% actually. Look at Italy

>>17463727
That's why coronavirus is hitting sand niggers harder this was the American solution to the defiant goat fuckers and gooks this is just the first of many bio weapons

I have a business trip to China in August, I hope this thing has fucked off by then.

>>17465372
link?

>>17459095
Imagine how many problems would be solved if all old people died

>>17465503
Good luck, these old faggots are hell bent on living forever and never freeing up any of the markets.

>>17463300
It looks like the epidemic has already peaked in China, if the number of cases is finally trailing off.
The virus emerged in early December and has peaked by late February. So 3 months.
Don’t forget that China introduced very draconian quarantine measures. These seem to have been effective. Without quarantine of close to 1 billion people, we can expect the peak of the epidemic to take somewhat longer than three months.
The virus has only just started to take off in Italy, S. Korea, and Iran. So we have until April to see the peak in these countries - assuming that quarantine measures are as effective and draconian as China put in place.
In the U.K. and USA, if the virus becomes self sustaining (i.e. with human to human transmission) like it is in Italy, Iran and South Korea, we can expect to see the peak in May/June.

Personally I wouldn’t be worried until cases without any known link to outbreak hotspots start appearing in my own country. Once cases start to appear with no known connection to China, Italy, Iran etc. Then it means the virus is freely spreading in the population and is no longer contained.

I’m quite appalled that so many are like “well it only kills old and sick people so I don’t care!” - do you not care about your parents, your grandparents, aunts and uncles? Do none of you have friends who are athsmatic or from an older generation? I’m most concerned about my mum getting sick and dying, I’d rather that didn’t fucking happen.

>>17465562
>he believes China numbers

The rest of your post is now invalid

>>17465562
The way China diagnosis the illness has changed (test-only -> clinical diagnosis -> test only). As such, their numbers are wack. Further, China has been underreporting the numbers since it began—taking their data as an example is silly imo. We don’t really know how long it takes for this to ‘peak’ or run it’s course until we get data from a country that has a stable and porous exchange of their infection rate over time

>>17465621
Even Italy has admitted they will now only count serious cases.

>>17465465
Jesus christ you faggot.

>>17465584
You believed them when they were going up.

>>17465684
I knew China was lying from the beginning, now they are lying even more though.

>>17465584
>>17465621
Fair point, but as long as China underreports *consistently* then the trend line is still informative.

I think the most important thing to consider is that flu season is coming to an end, it’s very likely that the virus slows spread into the spring and summer.
If quarantine measures are lessened in the spring and summer, this could be a disaster. Next winter we could have another pandemic situation with MULTIPLE starting points. This time it was just Wuhan. If people are travelling around all spring, summer and autumn, and then next winter when flu season kicks off, the hotspots are all over the world, that would be the time to get very worried.

>>17465697
>now they are lying even more
k

>>17465562
>I’m quite appalled that so many are like “well it only kills old and sick people so I don’t care!” - do you not care about your parents, your grandparents, aunts and uncles? Do none of you have friends who are athsmatic or from an older generation? I’m most concerned about my mum getting sick and dying, I’d rather that didn’t fucking happen.
Feel free to return to reddit

>>17465698
>I think the most important thing to consider is that flu season is coming to an end, it’s very likely that the virus slows spread into the spring and summer.

If it reaches the third world (and it kinda already did) it will become seasonal just like the normal flu

>>17465706
Yes dumb goy, China is severely underreporting cases now because they noticed that they economy was already gonna tank.

>>17461241
The cohencidences keep piling up.

only doomers and basedboys are worried about this shit.

>>17461241
They are just gonna send home all the cases that don't look serious even without testing them, there is already proof that they are doing that right now.

>>17465777
t.orange cheeto

>>17465733
>China is severely underreporting cases now
Must be one hell of an endeavor, what with the people in the original provinces already back at work for two weeks.

>>17465810
>what with the people in the original provinces already back at work for two weeks.

Fake news, the news that i heard show that most workplaces are still mostly empty.
It doesn't matter anyway, there is a chance that China has given up on trying to contain the virus to try and keep the economy running.

>>17465828
>Fake news
k anon

>China has given up on trying to contain the virus to try and keep the economy running.
Wow, people must be dropping like flies huh?

>>17465684
only videos I have seen where from people calmly leaving the ship

>>17465848
How fascinating for you.

>>17465810
>China cannot underreport cases if people are at work
Yeah good point lmao

>>17465859
mkay, seems like you can't prove your point
then keep on coping, or getting paid
idc anymore

>>17465842
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaah the virus is not a killer the bubonic plague and is thus irrelevant

Incapacitated people are way more costly to society than deaths. You know what corona does? It incapacitates people way more than it kills, that's a huge cost and that's why everybody is trying to contain the virus that hard.

>>17465733
>If it reaches the third world (and it kinda already did) it will become seasonal just like the normal flu

Swine flu is already endemic in India and other shithole countries. Every flu season there are swine flu cases. But endemic is not the same as pandemic... seems this coronavirus is very very infectious. I’m betting that after the peak this year, we get another pandemic next winter, unless the Middle East and Italy can control this outbreak, which they clearly aren’t since cases are popping up all over the world.

>>17465712
Ok edgelord. Like you won’t cry when your mum or dad dies.

>>17465879
Sure must be a lot harder to conceal all those people dropping dead because they're out and about in a red-hot Corona area.

>>17465884
>You know what corona does? It incapacitates people way more than it kills
That's an odd way of saying "gives many people (not all) flu-like symptoms".

>>17465883
It's not "my" point that the situation on board is chaotic.

>>17465894
That's my point, if the virus isn't contained RIGHT NOW it will never be contained ever, even with vaccines if we are unlucky enough.

>>17465912
>"gives many people (not all) flu-like symptoms".

Pneumonia is a flu like symptom that often prohibits people from being able to work, corona has a substantial higher chance than normal flu of giving you pneumonia, do you understand now?

>>17465912
You’re confusing your position. My argument is that China is underreporting the cases and continues to do so. Your assumption that coronavirus is the plague and, because people are working, the plague must not be that effective, is beside the point entirely.

A: China is underreporting cases
Your rebuttal: People are at work.

Your response has no bearing on the argument unless you assume that the virus necessarily incapacitates everyone it infects, which I’m not saying. I’m merely saying that we cannot know the rate of infection nor the severity of the illness until we get data outside China.

>>17465946
>Pneumonia is a flu like symptom that often prohibits people from being able to work
Yes it is.
So it's weird when you describe "flu-like symptoms" in such a roundabout way.

>corona has a substantial higher chance than normal flu of giving you pneumonia
Maybe.
So far the numbers for COVID-19 are extremely sparse.

>>17465917
There is literally no scenario where this virus does not become endemic in some regions, like with Ebola, swine flu, MERS, and sars. It’s inevitable and it’s not really a big deal, insofar as there are already infectious diseases which are endemic to various regions. There are cases of all of these each year - these should not concern you unless you plan on travelling to these locations.
The only thing that should be of concern to your own personal health and safety is the potential for a pandemic.
Once the pandemic has peaked and abated at a global scale, there will always be a few cases every year, in countries where people live in cramped conditions with poor hygiene like India.

>>17465912
>Except with a huge mass of people packed like sardines on a chaotic quarantined ship from hell.
>Except that's not what's been happening on this ship.
>... which they are not staying in.
>That cruise ship is in an advanced state of chaos, with nearly 4k people all packed together on a single ship.
>His videos did show advances stages of chaos.

>>17465995
Not maybe you fucking idiot, there is solid proof not just from China that it does.

>>17465971
>My argument is that China is underreporting the cases and continues to do so.
It would be nearly impossible to conceal reality if China was simultaneously:
1) letting people go back to work since two weeks ago
and
2) reporting a DOWNTREND in cases

>>17466009
Go find his videos.
The "chaos" thing is his argument, not mine. I'm just relaying it.

>>17466017
>Not maybe you fucking idiot
>there is solid proof not just from China
Ok, so source me.

>>17466019
Not at all. Why? China is allowing workers to go back in the Hubei province, which is quite large. Wuhan, the epicenter, is obviously not back at work. I see no reason why China can’t continue to underreport cases and allow workers to return to the factories—the two are not related unless you assume some doomsday scenario. Further, the downtrend (while also being attributed to China wanting the economy to recover) can easily be explained by a readjustment in how the cases are diagnosed, as I said earlier. Cases were growing exponentially until China decided to revert back to their previous method of testing (the same method that was widely criticized as being a insufficient gauge for actual infections).

>>17463565
>https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/fbi-orders-40k-worth-of-face-masks-hand-sanitizer-in-case-of-coronavirus-outbreak/
>>17464608
>tripfag wrong as usual

>>17466118
>Not at all

k anon

>>17459447
Omg a billion trillion people are going to be stuck inside

>>17466046
All the sources that you would ever want to read are listen on /pol/ threads

>>17466019
>letting people go back to work since two weeks ago

They are letting slowly people to return to work and only in the least affected areas, this doesn't mean the virus is contained at all considering that China already took weeks of vacation and they can't let this situation of inactivity go on forever.

>>17466155
Thought as much

How do I pretend die to not pay taxes?

>>17466019
>>17466046
thanks, but I have no time for this
what is you take one this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8jJ_lLwusQ

>>17466171
*listed

>>17466159
Not everybody can be NEETs you know

Meanwhile I tried to tell u guys

>>17459321
Our economy will still grow if our people die faster than our stonks tank>>17459256

>>17459629
I welcome the end but don't get your hopes up. Ive been around long enough to see 10 world ending events and 1 nazi president elected and literally nothing has happened. No dead niggers or jews. No nuclear war. No shimatah. Its all so tiresome.

>>17466171
>All the sources that you would ever want to read are listen on /pol/ threads
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

>They are letting slowly people to return to work and only in the least affected areas
They're going back in Hubei, anon.

>>17466174
It would be impossible for China to both let people go back to work AND report a downtrend if there were still a full-on epidemic going on.

>>17466186
>thanks, but I have no time for this
Neither do I so stop asking me.
I didn't describe the condition on the ship as chaotic, that Japanese infectious disease expert did.

>>17466233
>It would be impossible for China to both let people go back to work AND report a downtrend if there were still a full-on epidemic going on.
You insisting that it’s impossible does not make it so.

>>17459641
Sell all your crypto and stock and quit your job. Surely this flu marks the end of the world. Always trust sensationalist media and panicked normalfags who fear death.

>>17466233
Hubei (excluding of Wuhan) wasn't that affected, the virus surely is still there though.

>It would be impossible for China to both let people go back to work AND report a downtrend if there were still a full-on epidemic going on

Wrong since they can just not report the cases and let people work in whatever condition, by the way the number yesterday were the same as the day before and i think they probably did that to seem "more in line" with other affected countries ,it would seem weird for China to having solved the problem right when the virus is blowing up everywhere else right?

>>17466233
no take on people getting locked into their homes?
simple question, would you want to have this done to you and your family in case you or one of your loved ones is suspected to be infected?

>>17466233
Further, by your own admission, China allowed workers to return to work two weeks ago in Hubei—two weeks ago, China was reporting large INCREASES in cases (an uptrend). Thereby, your assumption that returning to work somehow necessitates a downtrend is invalidated by your own data

>>17466292
Fuck off normalfag

>>17466312
>Chinese doctors already said reinfection is likely
>send the workers back despite knowing this
>wtf why are people still getting sick???
based china

LMAO sensationalist media jews running the market down with a flu. Im buying back in Thursday at discount

>>17466255
>>17466282
Imagine being THIS desperate for a happening that you spend all this time and effort cooking up this level of headcanon.

>>17466312
>your assumption that returning to work somehow necessitates a downtrend
I never said this.
I said that a continued uptrend would be impossible to conceal after people are out and about for two weeks.

>>17466313
>I welcome the end but don't get your hopes up. Ive been around long enough to see 10 world ending events and 1 nazi president elected
ok boomer

Right when Trump was doing his conference calling the virus "just a flu" they found a case in Cali that didn't even travel anywhere, if you trust what your government says then you are beyond retarded

>17466337
>Chinese doctors already said reinfection is likely

I don't know about the likely part but Japan also confirmed that the virus can reinfect cured patients but they don't know why

>>17466349
>>17466356
First stage of grief

>>17465552
We should intentionally get the virus and visit our grandparents

>>17459095
How do I profit from this?

How do I into prep? Is it even worth it if Mr shekelstein still makes me go into work?

>>17466360
>twitter memes
Confirmed for newfag. Have fun with this happening because the truth is nothing is going to happen. You'll have to continue living your boring uneventful life as you continue rotting away in mediocrity

Its just a nothin- *coof* OH GOD I'M COOFING

>>17466418
Wait a few days and jump back into the markets for cheap

>>17466448
>iran

>>17466000
>checked
but it really is a big deal. you point out that there are already infectious diseases which are endemic to various regions, but you casually act like it’s ok to have another thrown into the mix. it’s not, those other diseases don’t miraculously vanish and the regional misery is compounded by the corona on top of it all. also the transmission of this virus is ridiculous and it’s likely mutated already and can likely take many forms.

>>17466356
You seem to have no position at all other than insisting that China, the same country that imprisoned reporters for calling attention to the virus (the same country that silenced and imprisoned reporters/activists for calling attention to the corruption in school construction following the 2009 earthquake) is somehow a bastion of honesty and good data. Your argument that it would be ‘impossible’ to conceal an uptrend is based in your assumption that the virus’ progress is dependent on a few factories in Hubei—it’s an untenable and naive position that I can only imagine is rooted in your loose understanding of what an epidemic is. Your belief that an ‘epidemic’ either
1. Kills everyone immediately
or
2. Goes away
is not based on anything other than assumption. Workers in the gigantic province of Hubei (not Wuhan, with which I think you’re conflating it) returning to work does not necessitate a spike in cases—the returning of workers to some factories in that province does not prove that the virus is going away. You insist that China could not conceal an uptrend in cases for no reason other than you insist upon it

>>17466448
Countries need to open their borde- *coof* GESU SANTA MARIA STO TOSSENDO

>>17466448
>COOFING
30 year old COOFER when?

>>17466510
before the downtrend
>AAAAA EVERYONE LOOK AT CHINA'S FIGURES

after the downtrend
>nobody look at China's figures

And stop writing all that headcanon, you're not that interesting.

>>17466424
projecting hard aren't you?

>>17466448
This dumb coofer infected the whole cabinet

>>17466551
BREAKING NEWS

>>17466532
You’re retarded m8

>>17466518
This meme was never funny but its reality dead and tired now. Go back to twitter you fucking normalfag

>>17466532
again, what is your take one this
>>17466186
is it a good or a bad approach to contain the virus this way?

AH QUICK, PANIC!!! SELL EVERYTHING!!! THE WORLD IS OVER!!!!

Pretty convenient just after the dems killed yet another leaker.


Why is there literally no information about this cali patient either?

>>17466698
1 in 5 people infected need hospital treatment in Italy, again mortality is not the only issue.

>>17466723
There is some info, they said that he didn't leave the region

>>17466742
>1 in 5 people infected need hospital treatment in Italy, again mortality is not the only issue.
I don't give a fuck about anything else BUT mortality. Unlike you, I ain't bitch-made, you panicking faggot.

>>17459162
>comparing a virus that's been in circulation for decades to a new virus that's only just started and already spread havoc everywhere it goes.

>>17466796
>I don't give a fuck about anything else BUT mortality.

Yeah because your IQ is low and you can't think about the future, what problems do you think will surface from heathcare expenses skyrocketing and stock markets crashing down?

>>17462474
well?

>>17466698
OH NOOOOOOO THE BOOMERS ARE GOING TO DIE. THIS IS A PANDEMIC

It does look pretty bad

But I would say from at least a couple of irl annecdotes , most virologists aren't concerned

>>17466742
That's not going to cause significant long term market effects

>>17466847
Virologist in Italy said the virus had a 5% chance of entering the country, guess what they were full of shit.

>>17466860
Retard

>>17466742
>1 in 5 people infected need hospital treatment in Italy
1 in 5 of those infected.
Which is a couple hundred people in total.
There are many more people with the regular flu in Italy right now.

>>17466827
Healthcare stocks will explode but 1/5 people missing their useless wagie jobs for a week means nothing in the large scale

>>17466864
>retard
Great point. You've changed my mind and the minds of lurkers

>>17466815
The flu starts from nearly zero every winter.

>>17466884
You didn't understand, of all coronavirus patients 1 in 5 needed hospital treatment while 4 in 5 were sent home in quarantine, that 1 in 5 will not work and some of them will need to stay in the hospitals for weeks.

>>17466887
Delusional

>>17466915
I'm tired of dealing with idiots, you have data and everything at your disposal and you keep talking like orange man and co.

>>17466864
>5% chance = 0% chance

A glimpse into the vacuous space that is a panic shill's head.

>>17466827
I don't give a fuck about Boomer Markets and I have good health insurance. Fuck off faggot. Go be high IQ and bunker down with shitty food, sperging out over every little news because your age range has like a quarter of a percent chance of dying. Speaking of which, don't step into a vehicle this year btw, wouldn't wanna risk it!

>>17466948
>You didn't understand, the people who go to hospital can't go to work!!!!

I bet you think you're a very smart person.

>>17466959
A UK virologist said around 5% too and the virus was detected in the country a day after he said that. What i'm saying is that they are like politicians and will lie to not tank the stock markets and scare investors away.

>>17466961
I'm not scared of the virus infecting me i'm scared of the economy, i understand that economy is an argument too deep for people that have the "it doesn't kill me so who cares" mentality.

>>17466985
>A UK virologist said around 5% too
Source on these Italian and UK 5%-ers.

Also, 5% =/= 0%, let me just get that right out of the way first.

>>17467012
If you're not scared of the virus itself, then you should be confident that the market will recover once this panic blows over.

>>17467012
Zoomies first dip/recession. It'll never recover again, surely!

>>17467046
The italian virologist was named Burioni and he said it on TV, he quickly changed his stance about the virus recently though.

>>17466948
>you're delusional
Great argument

>>17467131
>trust me they said it
>i heard them
Great sources

>>17459214
take a look at mr. genius over here

>>17467185
I wouldn't lie to some dorks to help save their asses

>>17467070
ccp shill, what is your take on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8jJ_lLwusQ

Nothing burger