/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17375508

Can't believe people look up to that coked up moron. I feel bad for that kid who is ambitious, but naive.

>>17375508
imagine a guy that employs salespeople falling for this schtick

>>17375508
makes me ill
Cant wait for AI to make this shit irrelevant.

>>17375607
AI will make guy in OP look like a self sufficient outdoorsman living off the land. Your only choices are the Hell of transhumanism or Islam

>>17375508
It's hilarious, but if they let you come drunk to work I would do it. Better than stacking shelves.

>>17375757
I go into work everyday high out of my mind after smoking cannabis, I get to work from home 2/3 days of the week as well. I am only payed 65K but in my mind this is better than being a doctor or a finance cuck working 12 hour days

>>17375508
No this is https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qFeKOrU7W0k

>>17375799
based

>>17375508
i would never put up with cold calling/call center work. so glad i just fuck around with excel and powerpoint all day

>>17375607
You dumb fucker AI will make all the other jobs extinct, the only ones which will remain will be the ones where you have to deal with people all day.
It's a hellish future.

This is why i hate/ge nauseated thinking about talking on the phone now. Promise me you'll never do this job.

>>17375973
this

become police officers and stack sats brothers

>>17375973
This is marketing. AI is going to eat marketing for breakfast. It'll be the first thing that gets obsoleted.

>>17375508
As an every day job this would be shit, but I think I would have enjoyed this as a 1-day challenge. I would take out my cell phone and immediately start calling random numbers from my personal area code.

>>17376076
Call centers won't get obsoleted. Boomers and Xers love talking to people.

>>17375555
Checking those quads

>>17376101
Boomers are dying.

>>17376118
Xers aren't retard, they'll be the next boomers

>>17375508
Based Grant teachin these zoomers some old school techniques.

>>17376124
Doesn't matter. Boomers are the problem. Go work in a call center if you think there's a future in that, you utter faggot.

Is selling cars this bad?

>>17375508
>there are people who do this 8 hours every day
Unbelievable. No way in hell this continues after boomies are dead.

>>17375642
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>>17375607
>>17375973

NPCs pretend to be woke while eating up corporate google marketing.

AI is fake bro. Making cat images and recognizing simple objects with 80% success rate is not going to do anything.


Where are the self driving cars that have been just around the corner for almost 5 years?

That guy tries so hard to be a "wolf of wallstreet" type. Cringe.

>>17375642
>Your only choices are the Hell of transhumanism or Islam
unironically true
or Russia if it holds up

Fuck Cardone haters. I’ve been enrolled on 10x for a year now and I’m raking in great money on real estate. Going to shoot for my first apartment complex this Fall.

What the fuck am I supposed to do as an autist can't even do inbound calls without trying to kill myself but every job makes me want to kill myself.

>>17376929
Nice cope faggot. You got scammed.

What the Fuck is he setting an appointment for?

>>17377087
I’m raking it in. Going to save up and put some money into 1 of his huge properties and get a nice slice of that passive income off a whole complex of 2-3k a month apartments. I’ve done nothing but earn more and more since I’ve enrolled. It literally saved my life financially.

Scooping up duplexes left and right.

>>17377130
With what? Debt? Are you fucking retarded?

>>17377104
a decision maker

>>17376792
Based

This is the most American shit I have seen in my entire life. The way they speak, the oversized ridiculous baggy clothes they are wearing and the complete over the top 90s grease ball salesman lines.

feel sorry for anyone who is around these people

>>17375508
kek at all the losers ITT who will literally never make it

>>17378341
salesmen drive the world

get good faggot

>>17378379
Hes just some abused call center jockey. I admire speaking skills but this is not the way to attain them.

>>17377146
Bitch, I got that Cardone Capital.

>>17375508
Who the fuck is this Grant guy?

>>17378379
cope

>>17375883
Call center can be ok and usually move up to non call work if you are not a drooling retard.
What I hate supervising inbound help desk people is needy customers that demand outbound calls. I personally talk to these people and their manager and have a good rant they cant treat people like objects. You have a problem you call.

>>17375849
Based as fuck

>>17378398
Is that debt? What's your interest rate?

I used to work in sales. Sales is a racket. 100 phone calls is not uncommon, this is high pressure, boiler room sales.

Sales is the most exploitative industry out there. People are squeezed for every ounce of energy they have for the ultimate carrot on a stick show.

>Get the same or lower base salary than average office staff
>Or get paid no base salary what so ever
>100% commission jobs are basically scams, you pay to build someone elses' business
>On Average, make a little bit more than the average office worker
>They say its "your" book of business, when in reality, it's the company's
>Work your fucking ass off, x10 harder than the average office worker, get paid a little bit more
>Stay overtime, dont get paid for it
>Expected to stay overtime
>There is a constant noose around your neck called your "quota"
>Every day is a mindless grind just like any other office job, but with x10 pressure
>Go home every day not knowing if you'll keep your job unless you're a top performer
>Deal with other salespeople that you are technically directly competing with
>Work your ass off to build someone else' business

I'm gonna repeat this, salespeople are exploited the most because they are putting in so much energy to build someone elses' business. They pitch it to you like its your business, but it is the company's business, you're just their bitch.

>>17376929
>Cardone

this is a scam bro. You don't understand finance, in order to make money you have to provide something nobody else is.

Money is currently the cheapest in history, especially at scale. By "investing" you are providing nothing but money. There is absolutely no reason to get to normies to get a few thousand a time. If they could get 8-15% returns they would call up a billionaire or a bank and borrow the money.

>>17378524
so many scams and get rich quick schemes out there. Is this the top lads?

>>17378523
Sounds less boring than typical office work at least. Pressure is a good time killer. That said, fuck doing either. When I worked in an office I wanted to N E C C each and everyday.

>>17378519
>https://cardonecapital.com/

Check the site, it will give you some info (not a shill, it gives you a few rates and etc). Why do you assume I have a ton of debt from this?

>>17375883
>>17378460
Cold calling is a joke, this is coming from a salesperson that used to do it. It's for boomers. And I did sales for around 5 years. Boomer mentality, churn and burn, they figure they can throw you into a labor camp, pay you peanuts or no base at all, and see what you can scrunge up on the phones...

But a good business would handle their automated marketing correctly, salespeople are needed to assist in educating customers on the product and streamlining the close.

Outbound hunting is really a combination of very smart sniping via Linkedin and emailing/Linkedin messaging. Any salesperson worth his salt knows this is the way to go.

Cold calling 100's of people a day, a fucking joke, just slave work, brute force, a joke and totally ineffective

>>17378589
I did look at that site. LMAO how can you be this stupid.

respond to my comment. Why are they going after individuals for cash when interest rates are at all time low.
you are providing NOTHING so unless they put a bunch of risk on you (also a scam), its fake.

>>17378589
>https://cardonecapital.com/
Jesus, this website reminds me of countless shitcoin websites.


>Why do you assume I have a ton of debt from this
Because I have no clue what this shit is and some other poster implied that was the case.

>>17378523
You make some good points, but you can sometimes find commission-based sales jobs that aren't rip-offs where you actually DO own your own book of business as an independent contractor, and i much prefer these to working in a typical wagecage. Sometimes you can even work from home. But yes, it is more work if you actually want to be successful.

>>17378569
I would choose boring office work over sales any day of the week. If you're a top salesperson, sure you can make good money..."good" money....the average salesperson in your office probably makes 20-40% more than the average office worker pulling in $50k.

But is it worth the cost to your health and sanity? Not worth it. I'd rather take a boring office job, low stress job, company man, over sales. Do you want to be stuck in sales forever? Eventually salespeople burn out, in fact you'll burn out quicker than you think. Plus with office jobs, you can move up in rank, become a manager, a director, and make more money that way.

Salespeople are working their asses off, staying overtime, dealing with the pressure of a quota, and then you have Directors, Senior managers, making just as much money, for less stress. Its a fucking joke.

In my time in a sales job, my health suffered and I went home every day worrying if I'll keep my job. Not worth it at all.

Honestly the best work you can do, besides doing your own business is being employed by the government.

>>17378624
> sometimes find commission-based sales jobs that aren't rip-offs where you actually DO own your own book of business as an independent contractor
Thats a rarity. Total rarity. Theres a reason why I can open up Indeed, Zip recruiter and find 100's of 100% commission jobs. Its a RACKET. It's cheap labor. You dont have to pay them anything. No benefits, no salary, NOTHING. All the salespeople do everything on their own dime.

I mean, its almost criminal.

>But yes, it is more work if you actually want to be successful.
It's like that with anything. But if you spend your energy building someone else' business in 100% commission, all I can do is LMFAO at you. You might as well put that kind of energy into your own business.

>>17375849
I wanna see more like this

>>17375799
This, I make 65K, have 30 niggers and spices reporting to me, and come in every day high as fuck. Yesterday literally all I did all day was trade stocks, and look up escorts on my phone. At one point 2 niggers came to clean my office, and all I thought was this is exactly how the world is supposed to be.

>>17378353
>>17378379
cringe

great! I have a solution

>>17378807
based

>do I have a list to call?
>figure it out man
good shit

>>17375508
The comments on this video make me feel sick, wtf is wrong with the world and why is this anything to aspire to

burgers not even once

>>17378769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orTYukcEO0o

>>17378613
Risk is minimal. I can't leak all the program info here dude. I have about 13k debt after 3 duplexes which isnt bad. I'll have that paid off by September. I can pay it now but I'm not cashing any of my stocks or coins out now and the rest of my free cash and some savings will be going in on some Cardone Capital 10x living. Duplex rennovations and some other stuff real estate related is my only debt. Paid off my university debts in 5 years after getting my Masters, no credit cards, no stupid loans, no kids.

THIS IS WHY YOU GO TO FUCKING COLLEGE. DON'T HAVE RICH PARENTS? DON'T GO TO COLLEGE?
THEN THIS IS WHAT YOUR LIFE BECOMES.

I am a seasoned NYC sales exec who is currently thinking of leaving their company and going to a new one. Here’s what I’ve learned:
-Skip commission-only jobs, most are scams unless you know your industry (for example you’re a freelancer making blueprints and instead want to just sell them to clients for an agency and let them do all the work leaves you $1k-10k per sale without anything past the close)
-High base salary $60-90k plus commissions roles don’t need people like the Cardone trained guys. They need people who can do discovery calls, educate their prospects and basically lube their asshole up so you can push a sale into it sometime in the future.
-All the $30-60k base salary jobs with UNLIMITED EARNING POTENTIAL basically expect you to do 100-150 cold calls a day, they care more about how many closes you get instead of the revenue each close amounts to. This is where the Grant Cardone courses might work for you because you’re basically on a 1-call close pressure.

Personally, I think I’m done with sales and pivoting to something else because I spent too much time doing the Grant Cardone way and that shit WEARS YOU THE FUCK OUT after years of cold calling and now I’m not relevant to the bigger picture sales market of lubing, massaging and sliding a sale up your prospects cavities. You also end up being the “snake oil salesman” to all your friends and family because this is what’s embedded into your personality.

I’m here for any questions about sales or NYC or whatever.
t. Chainlink 4 Retirement 2021

>>17378987
>t. Chainlink 4 Retirement 2021
enjoy poverty

>>17378905
Parents that aren't rich = No college

nice country you have there lol

>>17378987
Ah a fellow salesperson. You need to get the fuck out of NYC. I moved to Texas and now I can do something I enjoy. I'm now a personal trainer I woke at a local gym. Some light sales is involved but I get to flirt with women all day long and get paid to look good. Money is surprisingly decent. Not anything NYC sales tier but it pays the bills

>>17375508
All of you faggots having sympathy for this borderline nigger need to leave this place at once. Any person worth 2 shits would have walked out at 10 minutes where he gets told he will receive nothing more than the script, and a phone. His reaction?
> Yo I got nothing to lose, this is awesome!
That's a fucking nigger. That isn't some 16 year old kid trying to work his first job, that's a grown ass man excited at the fact that he has been handed a script and a phone and told get to work. I can't even hate on the guy running the scam, it's pretty fucking based.

>>17378987
I'm a technical sales account exec in the specialty chemicals industry, entirely b2b. Got into it about 5 years ago after doing labwork and had to learn how to talk to people again - ended up being surprisingly good at it. Like you said, if you want to be valuable to the company you have to do discovery work, especially in data-centric operations that not only maintain CRM but monetize that data as is so often the trend now. Sales is about rapport and listening. The talking is more about encouraging your contact to speak than educating them, although that is also important.

What are your thoughts on this cold calling script bullshit? I can't imagine that would work worth a damn. In fact, I often frontload conversations with inactive clients by emailing a peronalized script email that is similar to what they're wasting phone time on.

>>17379086
If you listen in on the first 5 sec the guy talking to him tells him it's a Sunday! That's killer. Coming from a sales vet what a joke, no one does calls on a Sunday.

>>17378900
> I can't leak all the program info here
Of course not, because then we'd laugh at you after your larp falls apart.

>>17379118
Hey if you can convince a nigger to work for free on a Sunday to push your scam, why not?

>>17379139
I’ve been apart of 10x for almost a year. Who the fuck would LARP about paying Grant Cardone? I’m just saying it worked for me and I’m going to go further into the program.

>>17378807
Talk about LARP. Nice projection, Nigger. Get back to stocking those shelves Mr. I look at escorts at work.

any other good material for my viewing pleasure?

>>17378987
Are you reading a script right now?

>>17379154
To be fair that's a legit position in the sense that biz dev is a real thing and your goal is to set appts and find leads for the senior reps. But doing it on a Sunday, pressuring the rep to close 3 in one day, pretty ridiculous. I had to do that for Paycom back in the day. Set 3 appts or you don't get hired. That kind of attitude shows you how they treat their salespeople. Very few survive.

The "best" sales jobs are the ones that were previously mentioned as an account executive, educating and lubing up clients for a sale. But even those positions are all high pressure and exploitative.

Sales doesn't offer you any lasting transferable skills. What are you going to do when you get older and you don't have the energy in your younger years? Sales is a dead end

>>17378987
And yeah you need to get out of NYC it's a fucking shit hole

>>17379195
Because if you actually provided evidence we'd see just how much debt you're actually in. You can keep talking about 10x and your other bullshit, but you've provided zero proof it's been at all profitable for you.
>>17379211
You're going to compare claiming you're making money off an oh so obvious scam is the same as claiming I spent the day looking at escorts at work. Because you're a disingenuous faggot.

>>17378807
Pure fantasy

>>17379352
Oh I'd never do sales, I'm in logistics. Any young male entering the workforce considering sales would be much better served walking into a warehouse. I did at 20, and now I'm 30 making 65k in the midwest with no degree.

>>17375799
What is your profession? I’d love to be in your position. Smoking weed and making easy money while given plenty of time to work on your side business.

Currently I’m studying to be an actuary in NYC, salaries can go up to around $180k-200k after reaching fellowship (roughly 5-10 years of studying for exams) then its smooth sailing. Its probably the most competitive job market though so Im searching for solid backup plans, finance/accounting seem easy enough with my math background, i also have a civil engineering degree as a 3rd backup.

But this would all just to build up capital to start my own business. It looks like all you guys talk about on this board is crypto currencies though, how come theres no sticky or introductory guide for noobs?

>>17379525
As an ex NJ resident now Dallas resident...

GET

OUT

OF

NYC (and the entire northeast)

>>17379552
Thanks but I actually live in long island its kind of nice here sometimes. Trust me I plan on moving to California for legal weed and perfect weather 24/7 but right now its not financially feasible as i live for free with my parents.

>>17378598
>>17378987
I feel like people on this board forget that not everyone is cut out to be an autistic software dev. There are well-paying jobs in other industries, they just aren't discussed on /biz/. And yes, some of those are sales jobs.

>>17379588
> California
California is just as bad as NYC, you'll get fucked in the ass, people live better lives in the midwest and south.

>>17379090
Cold calling scripts are great for training but unless you’re on a first-call close type of business, it’s really just a guide for typical points to cover. After 100 conversations, all that info on the script should be in your head. Sounds like you’re in a great position and should probably start shopping yourself around softly, you’d be surprised that you could double your salary by just talking casually with leaders from similar companies. Just brag about how many sales and clients you deal with (*this becomes your book of business illusion*)
I am quickly learning that my annual $120k OTE (on track earnings) could’ve easily been achieved years ago basically being a NEET by doing engineering bootcamps. Shit, Chainlink is easily paying $100k+ for you to work from wherever the fuck you want and contribute to their ecosystem.

Also for everyone telling me to get out of NYC, I do just that. Worked remotely doing sales in other parts of US and Europe but if you haven’t lived in NYC for at least 5 years you won’t understand the attraction to it fully. Plus, it’s safe to say that it’s basically the center of the US when it comes to anything happening including jobs. Texas is absolutely becoming the next big thing and getting a lot of San Fran and NYC transplants but I’ll be honest that their weed laws prohibit them from booming as they should with their influx.

NYC is actually affordable if you’re not coming with a family and a bunch of requirements and if you want to network, you have 20+ business related MEETUP.com events daily! You play it smart you can actually eat and drink 2 meals a day by doing meetups for free. (Chainlink is the perfect example of unlimited pizza and craft beers)

bit of a marketingfag me self:
>look into frank kern, he's the friendly cool relaxed version of grant cordone, but they are friends and work together. i have not even sat through a grant cordone vid but heard bad things about him or i just get a bad vibe from him
>learn about digital marketing...funnels. how can you get more MQLs vs SQLs. learn about data analytics...the free and entry-level one is google analytics but adobe has their own version too
>learn about salesforce, CRMs, etc.
>get linkedin premium or fuck around with the free trial if you can't afford it
>obviously b2b is what we're talking about so learn how to prospect and talk to "decision makers"
>avoid cold calling, like others have said it's bitch work, bottom of the totem pole shit. as a very shitty example look at imatrix and how they sell websites and online marketing by cold calling chiro/optometrists
>learn how to sell at trade shows, that's more important
>learn how to network on linkedin without coming off as a sycophant or desperate salesguy-who-needs-to-meet-his-quota-or-he-gets-fired

all of the above sounds easy but are important and challenging skills if you're not a natural at it. if you're a natural at smooth-talking people you can make $100k+ per year as a wagie but then you're already a chad so it doesn't matter how much fake&gay fiat numbers you earn because milfs will pay you to fuck.

>>17379641
>free meals
The absolute state of NYC wageslaves.

>Pay 2k+ in average rent
>Deal with used up gold digging roasties
>Live in shit weather with freezing cold winters
>City is dirty as fuck with rats and homeless everywhere
>Pay an arm and a leg for taxes
>Get older find a used up gold digging roastie, get a million dollar house in the suburbs, still pay massive taxes
>End up working all day long with typical NYC work hard culture
>End up working more than people living in the South and Midwest

Hahahahahahah.. Yes the "mystique" of Jew York

So glad I left the Northeast
>

>>17379690
Oh yea I forgot

>Prepare to spend $50 for a simple meal when going out to eat

>>17379633
I want to double down on this point. You shouldn’t go to California looking to be an employee. Instead, go to California if you own a business that doesn’t rely on California.
Also, absolutely do not consider California if you’re a freelancer. They have raped the freelance opportunity this year for all, so no matter what you’re going to have to start an LLC.


Another piece of BIZ advice I’ll give to anyone here in the US is to start an LLC in Delaware. You’re looking at a few hundred to start it, and anywhere from $0-200 per year to file taxes once a year. Why do I say to do this? Because it’s a business that separates you completely from yourself. So if you can offer a service of any kind to anyone else, you’re not breaching any employment contracts you have (unofficially) and the tax write offs and really great vs claiming this on your personal taxes.
It’s also a really big plus for a business to write a check to another business so they can write it off too. You can also do many DBA (doing business as) unless your LLC for just $25 per DBA extra one time fee. This way you can get paid by check to any of these DBA names and they all go into the same parent LLC piggy bank and taxes

>>17379633
Yeah but I care about the weather a lot, I dont have to live in the midwest in bumblefuck nowhere just to save a few gs per year, plus everything is relative in terms of location in the US. You could be happy living in Wyoming making $65k a year paying $10k in taxes and I can be happy living in Cali making $150k a year paying $30k in taxes. the only difference is the weather and atmosphere.

>>17379690
>free meals
free pizza and beer are great for bulking and estrogen boost which makes you more female-friendly in conversations. the future is female and so is satoshi.

>Pay 2k+ in average rent
sounds like a bargain, don't have to worry about maintenance or real estate tax
>Deal with used up gold digging roasties
roasties have looser pussies which means they can more easily pop out children. i have to have many kids to save the white race!
>Live in shit weather with freezing cold winters
just use a heater and it feels comfy-womfy
>City is dirty as fuck with rats and homeless everywhere
it's thrilling and realistic and gritty like hollywood films
>Pay an arm and a leg for taxes
taxes pay for based africans and muslims to help them become us citizens and go to college so they can become future doctors and engineers
>Get older find a used up gold digging roastie, get a million dollar house in the suburbs, still pay massive taxes
sounds better than dying alone in a wyoming cabin
>End up working all day long with typical NYC work hard culture
but there is foosball table in the breakroom and we all go out to happyhour after work!
>End up working more than people living in the South and Midwest
work is good for the soul. being hard-working is a good thing
>Hahahahahahah.. Yes the "mystique" of Jew York
iffff i can makeeee it there, i can make it...bump bump, *anywhere*

>So glad I left the Northeast
anyone who leaves the northeast will miss it and want to coom back.

>Prepare to spend $50 for a simple meal when going out to eat
that's a bargain if it's rated 4+ stars on yelp

>>17379447
Surprisingly not, and I even ended up getting my very first escort later that evening, which was one of the worst sexual experiences of my life and I'm almost positive she did hard drugs in my bathroom. On her way out she even snagged some quarters I had on my dresser for laundry. Long story short, I don't think of any of this as impressive enough to be a fantasy.

>>17379713
You can’t deny California (metro areas) are really going through some crazy shit with drugs and homelessness but I completely agree about weather and availability of things.
California has some fake ass people though, I have spent enough time out there and made enough friends in all the circles to see there’s some karma-farming scheme out there.
NYC keeps everyone neurotic and a bit too real. People can smell someone from NYC anywhere in the world.

>>17378807
why would you need 30 employees just to trade stocks and look up escorts.

>>17379743
walking down a dirty city street seeing rats scurrying about and homeless sneering for spare change, ah yes it makes me feel like patrick bateman or bruce wayne.

>>17379713
>Paying $30k in taxes
>He doesn't know
Anon you'll pay much more than just $30k in taxes. There is a higher % of income you will pay in Blue states. In blue states you *will* work harder for less. Take it from someone who lived in NJ and now relocated to Texas.

The cultures are just different. I dont know how to describe it. You move to a blue state, unless you work in the government, you will just work harder, the environment is not friendly towards private enterprise. It's that simple.

Down here in Texas I get to work less, for more. People can actually get by with lower tier jobs. Up in NJ you could not live on your own unless you worked a high paying white collar job, or youd have to live out in the boonies somewhere.

Over here you can actually do what you want. I find an apartment in DFW easily for $700, and I pay much less in taxes. See how that works? You are forced into a certain track in Blue states, and you work more.

Anon you sound pretty naieve desu. California is fucking lost. It's not what it used to be. People live in their trailers in Cali. Trailers. Unless you work in tech or another high paying industry, you'll get screwed in Cali.

>>17379755
Im from long island not quite NYC, plus i dont have any capital to start any real business. I am aiming to be an actuary which are limited to a few select locations due to it being a niche but the salary is worth it. Once I build enough capital I plan to purchase apartment complexes and other assets so I can retire early. Finding a job making $65k a year where I can smoke weed and only work 2x a week and from home and just chill margin trading crypto currencies would probably sway me though. Otherwise how are you really going to break out of the rat race we were born into? Anyone can make an average salary and smoke weed and probably never become financially free.

>>17379743
>I kek'd for real when reading this

>>17379789
You buy Chainlink in all honesty. I’ve been walking around NYC saying this to everyone that wants to talk crypto since $0.15. I stopped when the Coinbase pump happened because that’s when I learned all these same people end up wanting to ask me about Chainlink.
Before that though: “LOL Anon, you’re talking about that frog meme coin from 4Chan?? LOL you’re funny. I actually got $30k of ripple XRP shares and gonna HODL that shit until it hits $20k because Bitcoin is old now and this shit is next level”
t. Actual level of many conversations with financebros and techbros

>>17379789
>Californian living conditions

>>17379838
What exactly is “chainlink”?

>>17379841
looks terrible, I wouldnt go anywhere near that willingly though, I’d probably move to cali when i can afford a nice affluent place near the ocean

>>17379838
They are correct about XRP, you should listen to them. I would expect NYC finance fags to know

>>17379892
Yep they know what’s up, the same ones sitting on -90% bags while Chainlink has offered a 3000% stress-free rise.

>>17379867
https://www.coinbase.com/price/chainlink

I guess I’ll say the one downside is that NYers can’t fuck with Binance US exchange and limited to just Coinbase & Gemini

>>17375508
you got to get that revenue coming in somehow.

>>17378987
What can you tell me about car sales? I don't see car lots busy very often and you seem to be selling to people who are already looking to buy, is it any better, worse?

>>17379743
Im fucking dead. Kek

>>17379967
Looks a little overpriced right now, might wait until it drops to around $2 to purchase, what do you think of that idea?

Also how do you file your taxes with this shit? Ive heard of people who accidentally only report their sales and not earnings and end up being audied etc. does coinbass keep a record of all transactions? and is there a way to margin trade easily?

Done this for a living before and it's a fucking joke. Cold calling is dead and scammers ruined it. From 1970 to 1990 an honest person could sell things over the phone and get good at it and make money. Then the scams came.

Now it doesn't matter how good you are or how great the product. People don't trust cold calls and they are right not to.

However, the machine gun approach does still get a few sales. And hiring desperate idiots on commission only is cheaper than legit full scale advertising. This shit makes Cardone look like a sociopath. Which he is. This kid is set up to fail. No training, no list? That's like handing a kid a gun and going "ok now go fight a war".

Fuck Cardone.

>>17375508
I hope he eats all his vegetables when he goes home.

>>17380040
The job is more of a scam than the cold call scams these days.
Can't tell you how many sales jobs I got "interviews" for which were just "go sit in a Best Buy for 8 hours a day and sell DirecTV" while some kid as young as I am tried to trigger my competitive response by talking about how he got where he was by doing really well at sales. I don't care how good you do at sales, no one makes company owner at 24 without extremely good fortune. Not moving at the speed of American corporate bureaucracy.

>>17379950
>Only considers short term gains
Never gonna make it

>>17379838
>I’ve been walking around NYC saying this to everyone
made me imagine some weird derelict bum wandering the dark nyc streets babbling about chainlink, sergey, $1000 eoy, oracles. happy couples winch in disgust as you approach.

>>17380023
>>17379805

I don't live in burgerstan but if somebody called me up with that accent I would ask which cousin they married and hang up.

>>17378634
I'm a pretty upper middle of the pack in terms of sales at my company. Never really hit home runs but I can consistently get on base.

Unless you have the masochistic personality to go into car or telemarketing the sales jobs I've had have been pretty chill. Been doing it for around 5 years, worked with two companies that sell industrial electrical equipment. Nowhere close to being burned out and I never put in overtime while staying stress free when I leave work.

>>17380233
I don't get it what's masochistic about car sales?

>>17379195
get out now, read my comments again and seriously consider. There is no free lunch in investments.

>>17380233
> Nowhere close to being burned out and I never put in overtime while staying stress free when I leave work.
Then that's not a true sales job bud

>>17380182
You’d be surprised at the amount of chads and big stacks lurking on biz. It just takes a special type of brain to read the shit on these forums on a daily basis and put it to use. FrenchBro is a perfect example that’s been around for years.
At the end of the day, you guys did the best collective investigative work on Chainlink since ICO, and a lot of it was verifiable. The memes were just there to attract people to read the words. I’ll say that the only reason I even heard of Bitcoin was 4chan in 2011. Same with Ethereum in 2014 on 4chan.
Not sure 4chan will have the same underground feel anymore though, it’s too publicized after memeing the president into their seat and if this Chainlink prophecy comes true.

>>17380282
I seriously will rethink things over. Appreciate it, Anon. I’m not too deep yet, but I’ve paid for travel and a decent amount to for 10X Growth Conference VIP events with a reservation fee for a Cardone Capital Investment property.

>>17375849
I will never forgive AS for not greenlighting this shit for another season

>>17376117
thanks anon I actually got >>17376666 too but nobody checked those i think

>>17380576
In the future, try to get your employer to pay for this shit. I swear Grant Cardone is the Tai Lopez of sales. He’s a living and walking “wolf of Wall Street” meme but I can’t knock him if he gives people confidence to be better salespeople and to think outside the box. It’s just like buying vitamins vs eating healthy.

>>17380027
By buying it directly on Coinbase you’re not experiencing any tax events but you would just claim on the new tax forms that you own digital currency. If you keep it in Coinbase you’ll easily have your purchase records there for your accountant.

Good luck to you if you’d like to wait for a dip to $2, it may or may not happen, no one has that answer for you.

>>17378523
>salespeople are exploited
good, those worthless lying cocksuckers deserve it.

>>17375508
That guy in the video wasn't Grant Cardone. I would know, I worked as a "Sales Development Representative" for an AI based SaaS company and one of our daily tasks was to watch Grant Cardone training videos that the company paid for. I legit hate that dude, he can go fuck himself. One of the most smug faggots in history.

Anyway, this kind of job is never worth it. If you can't get hired on as an Account Executive find something else. Companies with this structure rarely actually promote SDRs to AEs. They get the best AEs they can, and they pay the SDRs as little as they can until they burn out after a year.

It's such a pointless role. Because if your marketing is good and your product is good you don't need to have wagies cold calling to make more money. The truth is the SDR role is really more of a marketing role. The company is paying you to get the name and basic info of your company to various businesspeople in client industries. If you manage to get a few sales, awesome, but that's why these places usually won't fire you as long as you just make requisite calls and follow the script

>>17375508
This is almost certainly a scammy piece of shit company.

A general rule of thumb is that anytime a business has to resort to cold-calling people, they are scammers. I wouldn't even call these people wagies. They're effectively one step above being a Multi-Level Marketing scheme and chances are they'd get shut down if authorities gave them any attention whatsoever (or they otherwise operate in such a gray areas as to be just barely legal).

The other issue is that this is unskilled labor. The dude is going in there, probably with no degree in anything important, and that's why he can only find bitchwork cold calling people. The kid is going to have to dig through a lot of shit and go through a lot of jobs to find something half-way decent.

>>17375508
i got paid $26/h tonight to drive around and listen to econtalk on my bluetooth earpiece.
feels good

>>17375849
I like the last guy who's just used to it.

>>17378598
I tell everyone that comes through the door to never take any cold calling job no matter how bad things turn out. I have fired people for being lazy shits and hired them back after finding out they started working for outbound sales. Once they come back they are quite a bit less lazy.

>>17381222
please elaborate

>>17381210
You'd be surprised how many software companies use cold callers. Of course they want you to do research and prospect various companies but it is definitely bitchwork. It is however something common in the business world.

It's ultimately a cheap form of advertising. Paying 10 people $15 an hour to call 100 mid level or high tier decision makers can bring greater returns than spending even more money on a commercial or internet ad.

They have to call it Sales Development Rep though. Because no one would willingly take a job as telemarketer, and that's all it really is. One of the scummiest modern business practices imo

>>17378598
>>17381389

Dude if that's true you must the most gracious boss ever. Props to you for being a caring human being

>>17376825
>the corner for almost 5 years?
driving on the road. Are you from a third world?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4ExqMVA7w

Holy shit watch this shit
LMAO wagies are the worst

>>17375508
>figure it out

i would have made that faggots like suck everytime he was around me

>>17381662
Cardone is a good salesman though, he convinces tons of companies to buy his products to train their employees

>>17380417
>be me, lifting chad from the Netherlands
>discovers /biz/ during Chainlink ICO
>immediately knew this place was an underground autist neet place that could make me rich af
>never had a technical background, I just simply understood that the severe autists here were right after checking digging into Chainlink
>bought 20k

This NYC guy is right, if you filter the horseshit on this board, you can make insane amount of money. I never needed to do the hard digging, reading people very well and connecting the dots is the only thing you need. Thank you NEETS, the lurking chads wishes you all the asian girls in the world.

What can wagies like me even aspire to anymore? All I got are shit jobs on my resume.

>>17381790
Looks like a scene out of the movie Boiler room in there

>>17375508
>>17375527
Imagine being in the prime of your life and spending it looking up to these coked up boomers who are selling you dreams but are really just training you to be the fodder for the corporate meat grinder.

holy fucking shit wagies make me sick

>>17381857
Lol

>>17378379
I made a product from scratch and sold it to over 1 million people without ever having to shill it to a single person.

This idea that scammy sales tactics is "grinding" and some kind of honorable thing is bullshit. You don't provide shit to the world you just peer pressure weak willed people into giving you their money for shit they don't need and that doesn't add any value to their lives. Anyone working at call centers like this and door to door salesmen should all diaf.

>>17381397
Lyft.
Friday night.

>>17378807
Fuck that shit white boi, This is exactly why I refuse to chase a meme degree, just so I can be unemployed for 6 months before becoming some based chad's bitch. Fuck that shit, I'd rather own my business. And if someone calls me a nigger, I'll have the freedom to just walk away and masturbate,

Fuck, I bet you treat your spic and nigger employee's so respectfully , they probably think you actually care about and like 'em. Fuck that shit, Fuck subjecting to anyone. Fuck it all.

Money. Power. Sex. aAAHHHH YEEEAAAH BABBBYYY!!!

>>17381662
>>17381857
Apparently that corporate meat made $800k in a year doing this

>>17381916
Pretty based but most of them dont

>>17378589

Cool pyramid scheme bro, I'm sure that luxury housing segment will keep on going up forever