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>>17308237
No.

>>17308248
God works is mysterious ways
I tried to help you

Long BSV in order to promote homosexuality

Only God can short God but He wouldn’t do that since He sits at the right hand of Himself.

>>17308257
All religionfags have is dude trust me arguments. There is no evidence for anything you say, so stfu. You won't convince anyone with a brain.

>>17308257
>NG
nigger
Seriously though, his "mysterious ways" is to fuck you in the ass and then when you think you've reached rock bottom, he surprise butt rapes you again. What a nice faggot.

>>17308273
That would taint my soul. Can't do it.

>>17308296
>Religion
>God
Not the same thing brainlet. All that exists and ever will exist is enough evidence for me
You have no more evidence than I do. Go watch your YouTube talking heads

>>17308296
im a super ultra omega god hater, but even I admit there is one.
I'll list 2 main reasons and keep it short.
1. They found dinosaur tissue in a supposedly 195 million yr old t rex bone (various examples of tissue found inside dino bones. This is just one example). Even at 0 degrees celsius, that is literally impossible for it to have survive for that long. This shows dinos arent that old which basically disproves evolution as evolutionists say evolution is not observable due to how slow it is. I am too lazy to search the "minimum" amount of time evolution needs, but im sure it needs waaaay more than say 10 mil years (which again, the dino tissue shouldnt have survived for that long. I dont want to make this post long, so just google "evolutionist puts ostrich tissue in 0 degree celsius". She basically used ostrich tissue as it had similar properties to the dino tissue (that doesnt actually prove birds came from dinos fyi) and basically she did this to measure the decomposition rate. Even she said "this (dino tissue found) shouldnt even be possible".

2. There are over 180 universal constant *needed for life* and you only have ONE chance to get ALL those values right (since age and size of the universe is irrelevant. Big bang determines the values and thats one one chance. Theres also 0 proof of universes constantly forming infinitely).
To give you ONE example of the constants... speed of light. Long story short, had it been a bit different in value, 0 carbon would have formed and ALL life is carbon based.

>>17308382
she preserved the ostrich tissue for a whole year then measured how much decomposed. Even though it preserved well, the decomposition rate wouldnt have allowed it to survive for 195 mil years (so it would be WAY less irl due to how it wasnt even preserved at 0 degrees celsius in the first place). She didnt mention the maximum amount of time it could survive, but iirc, she did post the actual rate and straight up said "it shouldnt be possible for the dino tissue to have survived".

>>17308382
Question is now why you hate God? Christianity completely checks out.

>>17308311
So you're like me who believes in a creator, but don't feel like any of the religions are right.
>You have no more evidence than I do
Nobody knows anything, but my instincts tells me when I die i'm dead. There is no afterlife or reincarnation. Can you cope with this?
>>17308382
He fell for the dinosaurs and universe meme. Yikes, fren.
>>17308436
>Christianity completely checks out
this is your brain on COPE

>>17308467
Sorry for being a dick with the last bit but yeah I'm fine with that but I don't believe that personally

>>17308436
Long story short, that bitch made this world based on luck (variables such as genetics and the state of the economy along with who you meet in life) rather than effort.
>b-but just keep trying
Retarded as SHIT logic. I wont go into super specifics, but Ill just say not all problems can be fixed through sheer will power. For instance, a literal retard with down syndrome will always be a retard. They will never be an engineer.
Others are born ugly. Others are born short. etc.

Also, besides that mother FUCKER making this world based on LUCK (saying otherwise is cope and sugar coating), he PREDESTINED everything. I dont feel like texting a lot so Ill write with shit sentence structure to make it shorter. I dont claim to know who this faggot god is, but lets just go with the christian cuck one for a sec. He planned eve to eat the apple. God knew that would happen since the way people will act is child's play as he knows exactly how the brain is wired (akin to how a human knows how a stack of dominos will fall).

A brain is like a computer. Say you do some plc logic. It will be the same always. The brain is similar to god in the sense that he knows exactly what people will do. If you hit me, he knows Ill hit you back. If person b gets hit, maybe they wont hit back. God knows the level of tolerance for everyone. He knows how everyone will act and "wills" things to be this way.

In other words, he willed everything. Genocides. Cheating whores. Neo feudalism capitalism. Homelessness. The dumbass rat race. Tortured animals. Random kids getting their arms and legs torn off. Random deaths in liveleaks in general (i.e. and old person getting cruched like toothpaste by a truck). Etc.

God is a sadist

>>17308467
aka you hate facts. Mkay. Nothing left for me to add about that.

>>17308546
So basically you could have done a better job at being god

>>17308546
Based also
>In prose III of book V Boethius proposes the problem of divine foreknowledge as a subject for further philosophical discussion. How is it that God can have infallible foreknowledge about contingent future events because knowledge requires necessity? If God necessarily knows that Socrates will do X at some future time, then it seems that Socrates cannot fail to do X, and therefore that he does not have free will and X is not contingent. But it is ridiculous to deny the freedom of the will in Boethius’s opinion, since then there would be no vices nor virtues, and even vices would be understood to come about through God’s action, nor would there be any point in praying
https://scholasticus.wordpress.com/2007/05/14/boethius-consolation-freedom-and-divine-foreknowledge/

>>17308546
>cruched
typo but just imagine a gogurt. God planned that death. Getting squeezed like toothpaste. Imagine that being "god's big plan for you".

ALSO, everything I said above is true for despite which god is real (except the even example. Thats obviously exclusive to christianity), but lets attack the christian god again.

According to the bible (paraphrasing): "the path to salvation is narrow while the path to destruction is wide and many take the wide path but only a few take the narrow".

What does that mean? It means way over 50% of all humans are going to hell. Imagine suffering in this world just to fucking burn in hell. Ya, he's not a bitch for that, huh?
Imagine being forced into existence just to suffer in this world then burn in hell for an eternity.

A super ultra sadist.

>>17308382
Wow you are by far the most glowing kike I’ve ever come across on /biz/

>>17308625
>even
getting reeal tired of these typos. Anyways, supposed to say "eve".

>>17308436
It’s a kike

>>17308638
...huh? hating god makes me a kike? How so?

>>17308221
God is the greatest thing in existence. You can short god but you won't win.

>>17308382
This is dumb and because of your low level intelligence, trying to explain otherwise would be pointless.

>>17308656
This is a pathetic argument and another way of saying "dur hur u wrong. U want me to explain? Na, Id rather pretend I have an explanation, but dont have one at all".

Brainlet

>>17308311
If there is a God what created that God?

>>17308656
Let me make that post even shorter for your ignorant ass. I can tell you didn't read it due to your low attention span.

1. Over 180 universal constants needed for life and you get only ONE chance to get it right making the explanation "muh chance" nothing short of dogma.

2. Dino tissue shouldnt exist in a 195 mil yr old bone (not even my own words) even AT 0 degrees celsius.

Universal constants needed for life is a fact. Dino tissue found is a fact. Deal with it, dumbass

>>17308742
So which aliens are raping us

>>17308722
Shit argument.
My answer is to you is who knows and who cares. That is the wrong question to ask. The real questions are "does it make sense for life to have formed by itself? Does it make sense that all the universal constants needed for life had the right value by mere chance despite there only being proof of one big bang and no proof of infinite universes? Does it make sense that dino tissue is still found when it should have decomposed completely even if it were even preserved at 0 degree celsius?"

The answer is no to those 3

>>17308776
>My answer is to you is who knows and who cares.
*my answer to you is...

Repent because the end is near.

>>17308829
This god needs to repent to me. Not the other way around. God is nothing more than an immature entity that let his power get to his head.

>>17308776
Oh yeah all those universal constants that must be just right for life to develop on earth. Pretty unlikely, until you realise how big the universe is. Go and watch the powers of ten video.

>>17308883
>Pretty unlikely, until you realise how big the universe is
lol and this is what it means to go full retard.
You cant read. I even fucking explained it already.
The size and the time of the universe is irrelevant.
Why?
Because those values were ultimately determines by the big bang.

There arent "infinite" big bangs, stupid. Just proof of one.

>>17308883
Not only that, but that "chaos theory" argument is bullshit when you realize theres a point where something wont happen no matter how many chances you get.

Just because something can happen doesnt mean it will. By that logic, eventually by mere chance a tornado will randomly build machines by accident and through "wind and erosion" nature will create random ass pairings (like the mona lisa or whatever the hell else).

Anyways, even entertaining that idea, the chaos theory relies on trial and error (multiple chances).

Big bang happened only once meaning you only get one chance, not "sufficient/never ending chances".

>>17308934
>pairings
god damn it. *paintings*

>>17308945
I think I'm real close to where you are. I too think that God exists. However there's so many things that don't make sense to me about Christianity. For one it seems kind of stupid that all the pagans through out all of time are going to miss out on eternal life. There's probably billions of people through out history that never heard of the abrahamic God and they're going to miss out on literally the only possible argument you can make for human existence which is eternal life in paradise, which isn't even necessary. Even if someone says that God will save those that never heard, the next logical thing I would think to do would be to get rid of anything related to biblical religion, that way every human after that will be saved. Also morality seems like a meme to me. I don't see how God just declaring something wrong makes it wrong. I honestly think if there was no promise of eternal life no one would give a fuck about religion. There's other things too but I won't go into them.

>>17308221
cringe and bluepilled

>>17308945
Of course though If you try to point out something that doesn't make sense the christian will just respond "God works in mysterious ways, who are you with your puny human brain to try and understand the ways of this incredible being".

>>17309163
>Also morality seems like a meme to me. I don't see how God just declaring something wrong makes it wrong.
Ya. This was always odd to me. The best explanation I can think of is god's set of morals aren't based on hard facts, but rather on his own biased thoughts. Also that he wired humans in such a way where we would see "right" and "wrong" the same way he does since if we go by the christian god in particular, he created humans in "his image". So basically the christian god created humans which have similar characteristics to himself minus the power.

Morals are a meme in the sense that there are no hard facts to them. Just biased thoughts.

>>17309280
>which have
to have

>>17309280
Yea I think honestly all this boils down to is eternal life, at this point the Christian will probably just come out and say that we should just obey God because if we do we get eternal life. It just boggles me how these people will view something as abhorrent simply because God didn't say it was right to do. For example with circumcision, most Christian's would probably be appalled by the Muslim practice of female circumcision however when it comes to male circumcision it's ok, and the only reason that is is because female circumcision is nowhere in the bible.

Would you actually see nothing if you were faster than light?
I don't think that's the case
your vision will definitely have issues since you're faster than photons, and that's the thing that lets you "see"
so for example if you you're infinitely faster than light, you take a step forward, you can see everything, you stop, it's nothingness, you step back, it's nothingness still (those photons are gone now)

so as long as you're moving forward (as sonic usually does), there shouldn't be any vision problem.

I'm not a scientist so point out the issues /biz/

>>17308742
>you get only ONE chance
You admitted you have no proof for this, and the more intuitive explanation is that there were infinitely many such attempts.
Your argument proves nothing.

>Dino tissue shouldnt exist in a 195 mil yr old bone (not even my own words) even AT 0 degrees celsius.
You can trace the devolopment of cells over time via context, i.e. looking at a group of cells and the various individual ways each developed, then comparing these. The more you compare the further back in time you can make definite claims. Your source probably relies on the fact that singular cells say little about their own history, which is true but irrelevant. Your argument is wrong.

>>17308776
Yes, it does. Nature failed plenty of times in the process. It's all just trial and error.

>>17309979
To elaborate on the second part: Things do not decompose 100%, not within finite time. Surely you know about half life periods. And so it's basically like reverse engineering the butterfly effect: Something that spent millions of years getting tinier and less significant each second caused an extremely subtle butterfly effect, like all things do. But by looking at a lot of other tiny insignificant things in extreme detail you can still retrace to the origin. This is done all the time in industrial math with PDEs.

>>17309418
Sorry, the answer is boring: You can't travel faster than light. It's kind of like asking if god could create a boulder he can't lift.
Or maybe you can and it makes the light go back out your eyes again and makes you see the past, and maybe that's how memory works. Keep dreaming anon

>>17309418
If you were faster than light (ignoring relativity because then you would just break the universe) then you would be able to catch up to photons that were reflected off of objects in the past, which would make you able to see into the past, but there also a problem that you would also see the photons that are moving towards you, and that would make your vision a mess as you would see both the present and the past simultaneously.

>>17308382
>She basically used ostrich tissue as it had similar properties to the dino tissue

Damn why did I even read as much of this smoothbrain post as I did

>>17308221
God's value already is 0

>>17308467
im christian and i don't really believe in heaven or hell or an afterlife

>>17308382
The thing that finally convinced me 100% is that the cult behind the Tower of Babel story in Genesis is the same cult who runs our world today. Different people, same demon. Once you make that connection it’s almost impossible to deny the existence of God. Remember the elites who want to enslave you are the ones pumping out the propaganda and false science to convince you there is no God. These evil Gnostics have always wanted to usurp his throne. I for one will never bet against the infinite and eternal El Elyon and His glorious Son, Jesus Christ.

How can so many people be wrong about God? He didnt put you here to suffer or be in paradise, this world develops the soul for the coming eternity. Why the fuck do you care if horrible things happen here if in a trillion years you're on the new Earth/New Heaven? He has us developing our own souls because otherwise there would be no free will and it'd probably be boring as fuck, even for God. Just because he can see the future doesn't mean he does all the time. 2nd, Christianity is the only choice and its not even that hard to be a Christian. Just read Matthew (takes 2 hours KJV) and you're set. Either you get it or you dont. There is no going to church, there is no suffering for God, either you believe God sent his son to experience this hell hole with us and want him to be your savior or you dont (burn in Hell because yes, you deserve it for being a shit human being). As for the pagan argument or other humans who didnt have access to the "Abrahamic" religions, those people are either in Heaven or Hell. In Romans it mentions about how even people who don't hear the Jesus gospel should be able to tell theres a single creator based on how the world works, birds, plants, the Sun, etc. So just because they didn't hear the gospel, as long as they knew there was a single creator and they didnt follow satans influence (human sacrificing and shit) then they're in Heaven too. Fuck guys just read the New Testament, it only takes 2 months and youre set for life.lmao

>>17313819
Literal retard

>>17312869
What if Christianity is actually a cult of Satan, lying to keep you servile and obedient to the demiurge (Satan-called-Yahweh), and Lucifer is actually reaching out to free you by showing you the way from your material prison?

>>17313883
Not as retarded as dismissing everything and name calling like a bitch