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after hours edition

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>>17232467

>> No.17236072

first

>> No.17236084

At least 13 posts too early. Get it together.

>> No.17236210

>>17236084
0h n0ez 13 posts early! shut up autist

>> No.17236273

Have you sold your weekly SPY and QQQ puts? Tomorrow's the deadline to close out!

>> No.17236310

>Chinese numbers way down
>Futures green
Gonna be a good day
Some people will panic and sell because of the three day weekend, but fags gonna fag. I hope the effects stay limited

>> No.17236333

Goddamn it MAR better not rally off this shit. My short could wreck all my UPRO SVXY gains.

>> No.17236336
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MSFT lost the jedi contract, how low will it dip today?

>> No.17236346

>>17236336
Remember, stocks only go up. Buy the "dip" which are actually just very slow up moves.

>> No.17236411

>>17236336
It didn’t lose it, it just got delayed. No one actually thinks amazon will end up with it, they just think it’ll be held up for a while and is thus pushed out indefinitely into “future earnings”. It’s pretty obvious that trump hates bozos though and would never give amazon the contract.

>> No.17236418

> people selling ONTX before $2

>> No.17236425

strong backing of finnexus by wanchain makes it a great buy also due to the fact that participants in the finnexus sale won't lose anything

>> No.17236426
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>>17236336
Priced in
Its also just delayed. I think we will see MFST in a slight + today, and the same with AMZN.

>> No.17236434

>>17236418
Pump and dump, Anon

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>>17236310
Good feel.

>> No.17236458

Threadly reminder: (((GALT))) will crash today, sell your shares now

>> No.17236468

>>17236446
I even countered my losses from yesterday with my NVDA Calls. Every day was green this week

>> No.17236541
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>> No.17236546
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>futures

>> No.17236555

Ok lads. Whats the plan for today?
Any interesting things coming up?

I am currently thinking if its wise to hold till tuesday. Lot of stuff might happen over the weekend, but as long as the Chinks fake the numbers it should be fine
Also Airbus just got reckt. Maybe keep an eye open to look for an entty

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>no volume

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>>17236559
If you can't sell it can't go down.

>> No.17236589

>>17236559
>When that B turns into a K
They literally banned selling. No matter what they tell you. The only way this happened is by flat out banning all sales

>> No.17236613

>>17236546
stonks only go up

>> No.17236625
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>>17236589
>>17236587
if no one can sell, then no one can buy...
when China unfreezes its markets, you are going to see multiple weeks worth of buying all happening very suddenly. The restoration pump.

>>17236613
it's just the truth
up, up, up

>> No.17236709

CANADAS:

What do you know about the MMED IPO? This sounds promising!!

>>17236541
Based
When is the Nikkei gonna give me another nice big dip down to the 22,000’s?

>> No.17236729

watch out for the DEFI trend, so much more to come from decentralized finance. FInnexus is leading the way Due to the fact that the FNX tokens can be converted to USDT after the sale even if the price drops by 10 times

>> No.17236739

>>17236625
Why cant Xi fake it though? Its easy. Just set fixed Bid and Ask prices and trade between "The bank of China" and "The Chinese Bank". They can even give back the money behind the scenes later.

Would create lots of artificial volume.

>> No.17236798

>>17236709
>MMED IPO
Man I didn't really expect that psychedelics would be moving towards mainstream medical use this quickly. Obviously it's great news.
Not so sure how much money is involved; most/all of the drugs can be synthesized or grown very easily (cheaply). So they might have the same profitability issues as the dudeweed stocks.

(not a canada btw)

>>17236739
there is no room for fakery or dishonesty in the Shanghai Stock Exchange. what you see is the truth.

>> No.17236841

>>17236798
>there is no room for fakery or dishonesty in the Shanghai Stock Exchange. what you see is the truth.
I find myself cheering on blatant fraud. What have I become /smg/

>> No.17236881

>>17236798
Lets hope Xi is able to bullshit his way through... at least the next week. Then Im happy.
>>17236841
Its not fraud. The Chinese people are happy with the gov taking their money for themselves, so nobody can blame us for profiting from it.
If the Chinese gouvernment would do wrong that would mean Chinese culture and people can be flawed, and that is impossible.

>> No.17237234

>everyone forced to stay home and play WoW due to chink flu
Buy Blizzard stock.

>> No.17237235

>Futures melting into red

>> No.17237304

>>17237235
yeah I don't see how today can be green, especially when monday is closed

>> No.17237442

>>17237304
Now a bit greener to be fair.

>> No.17237601

Tempted to buy FLWS at the opening, would that be retarded or an epic move?

>> No.17237661
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can a JUSTed make money, let alone beat the market? having depression sometimes results in stupid trade choices and makes me feel so much worse when they go bad

>> No.17237677

>>17237661
how much capital are we talking here

>> No.17237702
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> mfw AMD futures

>> No.17237733

>>17237661
A person with depression has a better chance of making money on the market than a person with anxiety.

>> No.17237753

What do you guys think about purchasing covered AMD calls for the next few years? Currently holding a short term Ebay call and a long term covered GM call

>> No.17237766

>>17237733
it all feels so overwhelming atm, suppose i just need to learn how to cut out all the noise.

>> No.17237844

>>17237766
Probably the best way to invest if you're depressed is to thoroughly research a stock until you feel very confident in it, and then go long on it so you aren't questioning yourself with every minor fluctuation

>> No.17237939

>>17237753
Unless gm changes how people see them, their shares won't rise

I have a short term put on gm cuz it looks bad and Tesla and rivian and the other ev companies are going to continue to steal the hype

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>>17237677
>>17237733
>>17237766
>>17237844
This thread has been blessed with repeating digits.

Also can I get some thoughts on DDS?

>> No.17237977

>>17237844
Unfortunately, I'll be waiting to start dumping

>> No.17238008

Threadly reminder that (((GALT))) is a memestock that gets shilled by gambling teens.
The so-called GALT-day turned out to be a nothingburger, and all gains were lost when zero news arrived!

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soon

>> No.17238084

wtf is going on with ACB right now?

>> No.17238092

>>17237946
On Doctors of Dental Surgery?

>> No.17238094

never bobo,never
stonks only go up

>> No.17238115
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>>17238058

>> No.17238134

>>17237946
I was also gonna make a dentist joke but

It looks steadily volatile. It moves up and down but averages no change (more or less).

Once I sell my options that expire today I'm gonna buy a call and a put at the same strike price if the premiums are low enough so next week when it moves, I'll make money (this is called a straddle for normies who don't know options)

I wouldn't buy normal shares though but it would be one of few retail chains I would consider if I insisted on diversifying into the retail sector

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>>17238058
>"why is it down so much, just the three day weekend?"

>> No.17238216

hmm, there was a time when people thought AMRN was a failure. The stock hit a high of 26.00 instead. With ONTX I don't need such lofty highs, rather just a mere 2.0 instead. Now yeah if ONTX hits 2.5 or 4.5 I'd take it no questions asked. But to put my plans in action 2.0 is enough.

>> No.17238231

>>17238084
Like long term or short term??

Some fund is diversifying and bought some shares (see the bump), but weed is like wine, everyone would rather have more of the dirt cheap stuff than less of the more expensive stuff and ACB somehow didn't see this coming lmaoooo

I'd buy long term puts right now while it's in an up swing


The weed market has a ton of new competition with USA loosening it's laws so if you buy a single company and that company isn't the Walmart of weed, you're gonna lose cash on it

>> No.17238243

>>17238216
But you repeat yourself every thread

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CGC earnings :OOOO

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>>17238277
COMPED

>> No.17238309

>>17238134
Okay thanks for the feedback anon

>> No.17238314

>>17238300
I like how we still have no idea what the motive was for that shit

>> No.17238315

>>17238243
Just excited and eager to finally get my Fat Green Bag. Every day without it is one less I have towards my long range plan. I'm 37. 65 will be here before I know it. I've got that window in between to let my long range plan grow obscenely fat with money.

>> No.17238333

>>17236336
Imagine being such a sore fucking loser you waste countless millions in bribes and lawyer fees to hold up the guy who won fair and square

>> No.17238340

>>17238314
I'm glad I have no such questions.

>> No.17238353

>>17238315
Then buy options on bluechip stocks, don't waste your own fucking time by getting memed by 4chan

>> No.17238358

can't this shit economy just fucking crash already

>> No.17238363

>>17237977
>>17238277
>>17238300
>>17238333
Yo wtf is happening I've never seen so many dubs and trips in a single thread, I smell digit manipulation call the FTC

>> No.17238368
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>>17238333
>>17238300
>>17238277

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>>17236559
wtf is happening?

>> No.17238458
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>Everything green pre-market

>> No.17238530

>>17238392
fake and gay

>> No.17238580

>>17238314
We do, though. The FBI said it was "like, just cuz, or some junk".

>> No.17238603

>>17238458
truly a clown world

>> No.17238627

>>17238603
There is no reason it should be red though
Only artificial "Its three days!"
Whats supposed to happen in this time? Gates nuking Israel? Bezos declaring his love for eating ass?

>> No.17238634

>>17236426
Please be fucking true

>> No.17238691
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Nvidia seems to be holding strong before the open

>> No.17238846

I wonder how high ROKU will get today

>> No.17238870
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Good glorious morning to you beautiful autistic children. I hope every anon gets his fat verde sacks today and I hope every tripfagging queer gets into a bad car accident or horrendous workplace machinery mishap.

>> No.17238872
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wow I sure am glad I own TGTX!

>> No.17238877

>>17238846
No one was thinking that, filtered.

>> No.17238882

I'm VERY excited for you guys today. green green green.

>> No.17238900

>>17238882
sidenote: AGRX is exploding in premarket. FDA approval today. watch it like a hawk. do not hold that shit though

>> No.17238923

On what grounds did Amazon actually have a case to get the judge to hold up Microsoft’s JEDI deal? Was the judge simply paid off? Their entire argument is “REEE TRUMPDADDY LIKES NUTELLA MORE THAN BEZOS”

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>>17238870
based

>> No.17238935

>>17238923

"orange man is bullying me!!!" cries the billionaire whose newspaper constantly writes hit pieces

>> No.17238981

>>17238935
MUH TEN BILLION CONTRACC - Jeff Bezos, who made more than 10 billion in the time it took to cry about it

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>>17238872

can you guys please understand that institutions know FDA approval is coming soon and have been buying this like crazy lately

can you please just understand even if you buy now you can still get +50% returns easily when it happens

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>>17238986
24$ is my conservative estimate by the way
could go to 50 on a hype pump and I would not be surprised

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another day, another beautiful reason to be a tripfag

>> No.17239045

Amd, intc or spce? Got 10k

>> No.17239052

>>17239045
SPCE gangganggang

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>>17238877
Reported for announcing a filtering.

>> No.17239059

>>17238923
>Last month, Amazon asked the court to block Microsoft from starting work on the JEDI contract, which was supposed to happen on February 14, this year. Amazon also asked the court to depose President Trump, Secretary Esper, and former Secretary Mattis, because it believes that it lost the contract due to President Trump’s influence on the awarding process.

>The President said in July last year that it would look into the contract after IBM, Microsoft, and Oracle complained about the bidding process. Amazon believes that President Trump shows bias against the company because the Washington Post, a paper owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, has criticized the President’s administration.

Amazon is crying because they lost the science fair.

>> No.17239097

Hope you all have green days today!~~~

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>>17239097
based tripfag, you too fren.

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>AMD
>DB
>SPCE

>Everything

>> No.17239129

>>17239059
How and why is this actually respected in court and not laughed out as Amazon being run by an entitled rich kid

>> No.17239151

>>17239045
If its just between those three, I say 70% in AMD and 30% in SPCE, though I'd diversify that 10k more than just these two stocks, especially with how speculative they are.

>> No.17239179

>>17236555
Short Japan

>> No.17239189
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>>17236273
I purchased a great many 350 SPY calls for next month. One of us is gonna be rich, good luck.
>>17238008
Based and 8008pilled.
>>17238627
Noooooooooo I can't trade my stockarinos for three whole days!!! Liquidate everything!!!!!!
>>17238870
Absolutely, unabashedly based.

If there are any tasty dips, I am purchasing more KO, MCD and TMDX today. I really want to buy more AMD but every time in the past that I have tried, it goes down, I really think that I am cursed in regards to that company lel.

>> No.17239201

>>17239179
I wouldn't go so far as to call the motherfuckers short. What those niggas gonna do? They Japanese.

>> No.17239220

i hope we kick off a great depression soon

>> No.17239224

>>17239201
Kill yourself nigger

>> No.17239235

>>17239151
Got some SPCE already bought in at 18.53. Was looking NVDA too.

>> No.17239239

is TGTX a meme ?

>> No.17239242

>>17239109
i thought the good morning poster was exclusively reserved for the dude weed daily gains spammer circa 2016

>> No.17239244

>>17239239
no dude it is literally going to be one of the major frontline treatments for lymphoma

>> No.17239257

>>17239201
Kek

>> No.17239265
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>>17239041
Did you ever stop and think that when you give up your anonymity you're reducing the effectiveness of everyone else's anonymity? No, you didn't because you're a narcissistic asshole.

>> No.17239276

>>17239265
Kek just spend 30 secs to filter that tranny

>> No.17239278

>>17239265
shhh we don't reply to them

>> No.17239286

ACB up 0.13 pre-market, holy fuck that kid's gonna neck himself when he realizes i out perform him every single time in this market.

>> No.17239288

what you guys eating for breakfast

>> No.17239294

>>17238204
see

>> No.17239295

>>17238923
Anti trust grounds

The lawyers called and said Mr capitalism is inhibiting capitalism but I assume there is some metric Microsoft beats Amazon at that makes them more desirable

>> No.17239301

>>17239288
fat blunt + coffee

>> No.17239302

Morning lads, pretty quiet here today.

I'm looking at AGRX, SPCE and ONTX out of curiosity.

>Tripfags didn't get enough attention and love as children so they attempt to cope here with internet """fame""". Newfags, don't trust them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4If_vFZdFTk
>Prog rock

>> No.17239303

>>17239286
>bought 4 ACB puts yesterday expiring today

I'm a fucking idiot. Hopefully I can sell them at open before they drop in price.

>> No.17239311

>>17239303
rookie mistake fella, CGC earnings reported this morning. not bad. and the sector usually moves as a whole.

>> No.17239317

>>17239288
Weetabix and dark chocolate.

>> No.17239320

>>17236426
Kek
Stocks run on hype just as much as evaluations
Simple supply and demand

That's why bluechips are over valued
They marketed themselves to the top

>> No.17239329

>>17239220
You’ve got a lot of money and assets saved away to survive? Or are you just hoping mommy and daddy will save you a spot in the bread lines?

>> No.17239332

>>17239303
Hold for the weekend sell off

The market will fall sometime today

>> No.17239338

>>17239302
ONTX will probably have lower volatility until February 16th. I expect another pump due to the investor presentation on the 17th.

>> No.17239353

>>17239288
picked up a sausage mcmuffin with no egg, came home and added an egg. i refuse to pay an extra $2 for an egg.

>> No.17239356

>>17239288
different timezone but in about 8 hours time ill be waking up and having toast with fried eggs on top. not sure if its a chad or pleb breakfast but its alright in my book

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>>17239278
Yeah but I wish they would just realize how fucking stupid it is and assimilate already. Anonymity is something to be embraced not rejected.

>> No.17239373

>>17239288
hello myself

I'm drinking a matcha latte which will hopefully hold me over for the next 12 hours when I go out to eat for dinner

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>>17239358
so embrace it you faggot, stop crying.

>> No.17239383

Nikkey looking pretty 23,563.0

>> No.17239384

>>17239311
yeah ive noticed. US weed stocks pump, and then 10 hours later the shitty selection of dude weeds i have access to on the asx also pump, just not as much. the heap of shit i bought seems to dump more than pump though

>> No.17239399

>>17239373
>when I go out to eat for dinner

whos your valentine?

>> No.17239402

It's funny the best managed authoritarian country has no problem giving total transparency on ncov

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>>17239286
I'm still mad that I didn't just buy into ACB when the guy told everyone to average in from 1.80 to 1.40 (larger position the lower it goes), he got an average of 1.58 and sold everything at 2.30, banking 45% and he showed his position to be worth $115k.. so he made around $50k in 4 days. Sad

>> No.17239416

>>17239383
>heh bro just go sideways for 3 fucking decades bro

imagine having to put up with this shit as a nippon

>> No.17239430

>>17239408
i remember seeing someone on this board back in 2016 make about this much on it as well. he was a canuck from memory

>> No.17239441
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>>17239416
better than fake bubbles while everything inflates but grocery store prices

>> No.17239444

>>17239189
>Selling puts
>Buying calls
You make the same bet in different strats, retard.

>> No.17239484

>>17239441
also if anyone thinks people will go to a hospital over a flu even if they suspect it's ncov in USA.

Hilarious the hubris

>> No.17239498

>>17239484
why wouldnt they? its a dangerous virus thats been all over the news

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>>17239498
Not only that. They will go to work with mild symptoms.

>> No.17239518

>>17239288
coffee and half of my leftover sandwich

>> No.17239531

>>17239498
the thing that only effects chinese?

>> No.17239536

>>17239288
Spam and eggs, but no rice. My trick is: I like to drizzle a little rice vinegar on top of the spam slab. Flip it half-way through cooking and drizzle again.

>> No.17239547

>Futures falling apart
ITS THREE DAYS, YOU MONGS
JESUS CHRIST.

>> No.17239552

>>17239514
>seething bear posts mentally ill tranny
Pottery.

>> No.17239554

>>17239356
Instead of fried egg, you might try scrambled egg with chives and ricotta cheese some time.

>> No.17239557

>>17239547
SEE


>>17238204

>> No.17239570

>>17239288

Two 20 MG Adderall.

Going to landscape my front and backyard, maintain my 4.2 GPA, detail my car, walk my doggone and organize my living room.

All before noon.

>> No.17239574

>>17239329
i don't really care

>> No.17239576
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XXII meeting today lads, here's hoping 95% reduced nicotine cigarettes can bust through big tobacco's lobby.

>> No.17239592
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>>17239557
>>17238204
Its not down, its just crabbing.
>>17239576
Good luck to you

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>>17239570
im thinking thats based

>> No.17239611
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>> No.17239614

>>17239570
Kek

>> No.17239622

>>17239554
not a bad idea although i usually dont have much time to fuck about. how do you make your scrambled egg, do you forgo the milk and just mix it with butter?

>> No.17239630

What are you buying today?

>> No.17239631

>>17239288
>coffee, red bull, light cigarettes
ATHs today

>> No.17239646

>>17239622
Never add milk to eggs
To get fluff you need a low temp oil like butter. After they fluff, add your cheez

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>>17239630
you tell me. im yet to buy my first US listed stock. what should it be?

>> No.17239658

>>17239646
What about french toast?

>> No.17239676

>>17239288
I haven’t eaten breakfast for like a decade, turns out I’ve been doing IF without even trying kek.
>>17239536
My wife grew up in Hawaii and loves that shit.

>> No.17239679

>>17239630
Nothing so far.
I also do not really plan on selling anything. I think we might take a small hit from the guys who sell but not enough to ride the waves.
>>17239654
ACB
All in

>> No.17239685

>>17239286
Stick around. I'm going to some trades at open but later on I'm going to post my account like I did last night and you're going to get ruined, you dumb faggot.

>> No.17239698

>>17239288
>>17239630

Nothing

>> No.17239703
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17239703

Oooooooooo shit he’s got my vote!

>> No.17239708

>>17239654
I’ve been buying nothing but MSFT, TSLA, KO and SPCE.

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>>17239685
ive already BTFO'd you retard, lmfao. get cucked and fucked.

>> No.17239713

>>17239286
>>17239685
In the meantime, post how much your total return was in 2019 and YTD.

>> No.17239762
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>Wall Street set for muted open amid coronavirus worries

im getting real tired of seeing this FUD headline every goddamn fucking day.

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Is there anything more comfy than silver stacker youtube videos?

>> No.17239785

>>17239708
Why buy into TSLA now? Won't the new stock offering make the price go down?

>> No.17239823

Stop reading headlines and /pol/ retards lmao

>> No.17239833

>>17239823
Based

>> No.17239854
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>>17239823
The rich and powerful will get plasma infusions while the rest rattle their cages

>> No.17239864

>>17239823
Not reading /pol/ is good advice, not reading the headlines that makes boomers panic is setting yourself up for failure though.

>> No.17239883

>>17239854

S'COOL

>> No.17239891
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17239891

Alright biz give it to me straight, what are the best leveraged ETFs to get into right now? I have been looking to TQQQ so far.

Rock on you gods.

>> No.17239901

>>17239891
>sitting comfy waiting for the soxl loser to post

>> No.17239909

>>17239864
No matter what you do, you will never ever beat algos in a news race though. So why read them at all?

>> No.17239910
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17239910

Imagine the bullrun we could have had if the Chinese had not eaten bat feet for a bigger penis.
Now we have to deal with this nothingburger.

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>>17239854
I'm more of a C&C man than a Deus Ex guy.
>>17239891
>inb4 soxl guy

>> No.17239919
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17239919

Got $200 to invest. What's the way to go lads?

>> No.17239934

>>17239901
>>17239915
DO not fret anons, I am sure he is coming! But until then maybe some others.

>> No.17239950

>>17239919
Invite a girl out to dinner, maybe a drink or two, and earn yourself some valentines pussy tonight anon

>> No.17239951

>>17239919
buy a hooker. at least youll fuck her instead of getting fucked.

>> No.17239955

>>17239919
Go all in on meme stocks

>> No.17239960

>>17239919
SALT, earnings were way up they just have to turn that into revenue after Corona blows over. It's a big brain play

>> No.17239969

>>17239919
get a little more than that and buy 4 shares of AMD.

>> No.17239972

>>17239919
AMZN Calls for 2022

>> No.17239979

>>17239785
I thought so too, but it didn’t. And if it does go down, great time to buy more.

>> No.17239982

>>17239007
>24$ is my conservative estimate by the way
>could go to 50 on a hype pump
wtf i bought 2k TGTX this week, my balls would explode if this happened

>> No.17239988

>>17239703
2, 3, 4, 1

>> No.17239996

Here we go. I think its gonna be red today

>> No.17240001

>>17239919
>>17239919
>>17239919
Spy puts

>> No.17240003

DINGDINGDING BOYS LETS GET EM TODAY

>> No.17240007

DING DING DING

MARKET OPEN LETS GET THIS BREAD

>> No.17240014

>>17240003
HOLY SHIT LMFAO

>> No.17240026

>when you wake up to the sound of money

>> No.17240061 [DELETED] 

Look into GILD and remdesivir

I'm heavy long GILD because I think China will pump it no matter what the results are to calm fears with a "cure"

>> No.17240077
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17240077

Will just lay back today
I expect nothing and have no real plan for today.

>NVDA on road to 300
Nice. Great calls there.

>> No.17240085

Good ol' SNSS

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>>17239901
>soxl
i am not soxl shill bro, i am one of his disciples though... he has shown us the way

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Getting real tired of trying to dip my penis into to options, KO goes up but my call is worth less? I get a day has passed but it doesn't expire till March so why would theta or time decay be messing with it so much.

>> No.17240100

>>17239891
Tqqq has returned over 300% since January 19. It still has room to run. In a bear market, it can lose 50%. For a long term hold, a strategy and plan is needed. This is not buy and hold unless you can stomach a 50% drawdown in a matter of 3 mos. SOXL has even better returns, however frequently falls 10% or more.

>> No.17240113
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17240113

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.17240115

>>17240085
God bless you man. You might be a retard but you have the heart in the right place.

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17240122

I hope you anons bought your KO.

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>>17240085
easy money.
>>17240087
my goodness i would ejaculate my members into her pizda

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Hey faggots! You guys were asking about the next meme penny stock that will make a move like ONTX and boy do I have a treat for you. BUY SLRX. Look at the charts, EASY reversal play and very recent 13 g filings and insiders buying shares while its low. You have a chance to load the boat with the insiders, dont miss out!
Only time I'm ever gonna mention it in here. Good luck.

>> No.17240136

made 2% on BYND. nice

>> No.17240141

>>17240097
Robinhood probably calculates it based on the value of the last trade, so if somebody offloads a call for cheap, it reads that as lost value.

>> No.17240160

>>17240124
>feb 6 it was $2, now its 0.90
id rather buy and hold SNSS........

>> No.17240166

>>17240124
>A stock that went from 600 USD to 60 Cent
Wow

>> No.17240171
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17240171

Should I just quit

>> No.17240177

stop bullying msft

>> No.17240194

>>17240171
faggots quit. based niggers learn from their mistakes. dont be a beta cuck.

>> No.17240196

I like Gilead

>> No.17240197
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17240197

Go GameStop!

Dinner at Olive Garden is on me tonight lads.

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>>17240160
Shut the fuck up faggot we know you and snss anon are the same person dont make me filter you

>> No.17240205

>>17240141
It's based off the mark price which is the midpoint between bid and ask. If you try to market buy options you will pay a 2 to 10 percent slippage on your premium. This isn't unique to RH because options are routed the same way for every broker.

>> No.17240221

>>17240171
Lol what did you do?

>> No.17240227

FUCK TRIPFAGS
>>17240160
>>17240194
Alright. Post your total return in 2019 and YTD, and I'll do mine. If you don't do this, you're even more of a faggot than I originally thought, and I thought you were a gigantic faggot.

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>>17240177

>> No.17240250

Reminder that WeedBrahski was gloating about how he almost made 15% on ACB before it crashed and took all his money. LMAOing at his life.

>> No.17240253

>>17240205
Gotcha, I'm surprised more people aren't buying this option, 5 dollar growth in a little more than a month doesn't seem impossible for KO

>> No.17240265

>>17239685
>Stick around. I'm going to some trades at open but later on I'm going to post my account like I did last night and you're going to get ruined, you dumb faggot.
>>17240227
im already waiting for you to post yours faggot lmfao. imagine being such a massive faggot you think anyone cares about the meme money youre making. my lunch money is more than you have invested in the markets you cuck.

>> No.17240269

>>17240237
>image
i'm sad now.

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>>17240269

>> No.17240304

>>17240253
with no earnings reports between now and then, it's extremely unlikely. hence the zero bids for your $65 3/20 call.

>> No.17240311

>>17240237
Didn't msft have to bury IE because they were accused of antitrust violations for bundling it with their operating system

>> No.17240320
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>>17240265
>imagine being such a massive faggot you think anyone cares about the meme money youre making. my lunch money is more than you have invested in the markets you cuck.
Okay, prove it. I've done 280% in less than a year, which is almost a 4x.

>> No.17240328

>>17240253
Think about it this way. If you owned KO stock: instead of hoping it goes up $5 you collect a premium from people that think it will and make money by writing covered calls. So your stock still profits up to +$5 and you collect a premium no matter what happens to the stock.

>> No.17240334

>>17240289
aaaaand you killed it for me. who cares about bitches hating on bitches

>> No.17240337

>>17240289
I wonder how Netscape-chan feels

>> No.17240344

>>17239988
1 has an aussie accent, the contrast is pretty funny

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>>17240334
Dammit.
This one?

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>>17240311
Nah, they dropped it to release Microsoft Edge as their new browser, which is based on Chromium, which means Firefox is pretty much the only major browser left that isn't based on Google's software.

>> No.17240366
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17240366

Hello /smg/, absolute stock market beginner here. I've been lurking for a few weeks and just opened a brokerage account (unfortunately I live in Europe).

I want to know, what is the catch with "calls"? From what I gather you can use calls to gamble on the future value of a stock by setting a price threshold for a certain date (say, January 1st 2021) and they will go up, the closer you get to the target. If the target is reached you get a multiplication of the money you put in, but if you miss the target your money is lost. So why even hold regular stocks? You're only supposed to buy stocks you think will go up in value a lot anyways. So if you make 10 calls with a 100$ each in early 2020 and even just one or two are correct and the rest fail you can make more money at the end of the year than by just buying 10 regular stocks with value growth, right? What am I missing here?

>> No.17240367
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17240367

SPCE wants $30

>> No.17240371

FUCK I SOLD BYND SO EARLY FUCK FCUK FUC

>> No.17240389

>>17240354
based bing knows milkers are the best

>> No.17240403

>>17240304


>>17240328
Thx for info pals

>> No.17240411

>>17240366
Well the stocks are a lot less likely to go to a value of zero than for an option to expire worthless

>> No.17240415

>>17240320
>280%
>almost 4x
you are retarded you know that right? lmfao.

>> No.17240420
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17240420

SPCE going to the moon today /biz/ 30$ EOD screenshot this.

>> No.17240425

>>17240371
200 here we go

>> No.17240428

Anyone nab some ROKU on that dip? Their CEO is gonna be speaking on CNBC at 11:30AM EST and they just crushed earnings.

>> No.17240431

ONTX needs to dump so bagholders learn a lesson

>> No.17240436

>>17240366
All you need know is stonk no go down. Buy stonk. Go up. Sell stonk. Repeat.

>> No.17240438

>>17240420
in since $18, give me $30

>> No.17240448

>>17240205
>If you try to market buy options you will pay a 2 to 10 percent slippage on your premium.
In my experience, Etrade always executes my market orders right at the middle of the spread.

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MDT recalled some insulin pumps today and dipped, if you've ever been to a hospital, half the shit in their is made by them so I suggest you scoop some up.

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>>17240337

>> No.17240490

idk what the fuck to buy

>> No.17240493
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>>17240438
Bought 250 when it was 19, lets get this bread.

>> No.17240506

what is causing the SOXL surge? Its unstoppable

>> No.17240509

>>17240490
SALT or else you might be salty you didnt

>> No.17240517
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Feels like the bulls are getting weaker, the air is getting thinner...soon

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>>17240517
careful now, its still bobo hunting season

>> No.17240527

>>17240415
That's how it works, 280% is the percentage of increase, it's calculated using (New Value - Initial Value)/(Initial Value) * 100.

Post account, pussy. I want to see how you almost made 15% with your allowance money.

>> No.17240533

>>17240506
Face it,

>> No.17240534

OH GOD IT'S RED.

>> No.17240542

at what time can i expect an msft selloff ?

>> No.17240548

why does KHC go down more it was supposed to recover a bit today AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

>> No.17240553
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>>17240534
Not me lol

>> No.17240556

>>17240527
100% is 2x
200% is 4x
Fucking retard

>> No.17240559

>>17240534
literally edging rn

>> No.17240565 [DELETED] 

>>17240527
280% is closer to 3x than 4x you stupid unbearable retarded faggot, just nec yourself.

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>>17236069
>china releases new plague
>still keeps rising
why aren't you a xiachad yet, /smg/?

>> No.17240577

>>17240493
That's how bacon is supposed to be cut. These faggots at oscar mayer need to get their shit together. are they part of KHC?

>> No.17240579

Based bmy making me that deniro

>> No.17240586

GNPX GANG GANG
also another 13g filed for TGTX , looking good for you guys

>> No.17240590

>>17240420
Sold at 24,3 or so. Got some huge money out of it but I do not trust the hype.

>> No.17240593

>>17240577
based. thick cut bacon is the best. crispy bacon is nasty.

>> No.17240611

>>17240565
you legit dont know what you're talking about dude lurk more

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>>17240578
Its going up?

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>>17240534
Post total return in 2019 and YTD. I'm auditing all tripfags and not one of them have managed to beat the return of a random Anon.

I'll call it the fag audit 2020.
>>17240565
>>17240556
That's not how you calculate percentage increase, you fucking retards, you're not including the original amount otherwise everyone who made a profit last year did over 100%.

Use any percentage increase calculator on the planet, and post total returns.

>> No.17240649

>He deleted his post
>Tripfags are retarded and can't do basic math
Who would have thought?

>> No.17240657

>>17240649
280% is still closer to 3x than 4x you stupid retard

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17240661

SPCE are you ok? I'm selling some of my calls ahahaha I love this meme market.

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17240672

Will it be today or Tue that ONTX bagholders get BTFO?

>> No.17240671

>>17240649
>he invests 12k
>makes 280%
I 4X'D MY MONEY YOU GUYSSSSSSSSSS

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>KRAFT HEINZ CUT TO JUNK BY FITCH

OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.17240696

>>17240493
>>17240438
B&R

Just broke through a 20% unrealized gain today on the stock. Up big on SPCE.U and SPCE.WS as well.

>> No.17240710
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17240710

MOVIN ON UP NOW
OUT OF THE DARKNESS
MY LIGHT SHINES ON

>> No.17240711

>>17240621
That's just the correction from yesterday

>> No.17240732

>>17240586
what does it mean

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>>17236069
Funny how my entire watchlist went Red at the same time... Why are Fridays always like this? I should start going short on Fridays or maybe buy the dips for a swing....

>> No.17240751

SPY just downgraded to a sell by yours truly.

>> No.17240753

>>17240657
>>17240671
LMAO, god you're really fucking dumb. This is basic multiplication that you should have learned in grade two. If you have 11k and you made a 4x return meaning a four TIMES return, you have made 44k because 11x4= 44

Post account. You've been forever BTFOed.

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>>17240753
CAPPED

>> No.17240783

any bets on when the feds are done blowing their load?
no fucking way they can keep it up until april at this rate

>> No.17240802

>>17240753
That means you made 33, dipshit. You didn't make 4x in that situation, you now HAVE 4x, because you MADE 3x. Jesus fucking christ stop shitting this thread up with your terrible math.

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>>17240753
>>17240781
imagine thinking if you started with 11k and end up with 44k, you think you 4x'd your money. you 3x'd it you stupid inbred retard. you didnt 4x shit because you already 11k. and the fact you made 33k profit is 3x. jesus christ this retarded dumbfuck cant even do basic arithmetic and is out here talking about "out performing" people LMFAO.

>> No.17240826

>>17240751
Bruvh...

>> No.17240836

bought 1.5k of spce calls expiring 21Feb just to crash it

>> No.17240854
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17240854

just fuck already!

>> No.17240869

>>17240671
I invest 100 dollerinos
I make 100%
I now have 200 dollerinos
Or 2x my money
I invest 100 dollerinos
I make 200%
I now have 300 dollerinos
Or 3x my money
I invest 100 dollerinos
I make 380%
I now have 380 dollerinos
Or 3.8x my money

Ezpz math dude smoke less

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>>17240753

>> No.17240900

>>17240809
reminder that this retarded faggot is just baiting now because no one would give him any (You)s

>> No.17240916

>>17240900
>he doesn't filter out tripfag trannies
ngmi brah

>> No.17240915

>>17240875
>1 post by this ID

>> No.17240927
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>> No.17240936
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>>17240869
CRINGE AS FUCK LMFAO

>> No.17240939

>>17240916
I do on my computer I'm just phoneposting and too lazy to set it up

>> No.17240948

Alright im going into cash and i'll wait to buy the dip. We're all just pretending everything's okay right? No one believes this shit is going to end green on a long weekend friday

>> No.17240950

>>17240869
you didnt 2x your money retard. you 1x'd it. fuck me, this is seriously the people who are giving advice here? lmfao

>> No.17240979
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my inner weedchad is happy
my inner 'chupchad is sad

>> No.17240983

>>17240948
Enjoy losing money to inflation while I get rich

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17240996

Waiting for that red day to kick in. Bulls should just give up.

>> No.17240998

now i know why i only read what tripfags write, you anon trannies are dumber than a 2nd grader diagnosed with mental retardation.

>> No.17241003

>>17240802
>>17240809
You couldn't calculate percentage increase, now you're claiming you know how to do math? You retards don't know how to do basic, you include the original number, that's how multiplication works. It's different from calculating percentage increase.

If you made a 1x, meaning one times the amount, you've just made the original amount, you didn't double your money. It's misleading, but you always include the original number when you multiply.

>> No.17241011

>>17240996
what an obnoxious bitch

>> No.17241019

>>17241003
youve already proven youre a retard. please leave and never come back lmfao.

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>>17240950
Last time imma respond to you, 1 times 1 equals 1 if he " 1 x his money" (not a saying by the way) he would have the original amount still. Thought you were aight before this but now I see that the day of the rope is a necessity.

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Wtf is wrong this shit pump you motherfucker

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>>17240948

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>>17241024
>hes ACTUALLY this dumb

>> No.17241059

Hey guys can I get an honest review of my portfolio and any feedback?

10 ATVI
10 CVLY
10 SNAP
10 FNKO
10 ULTA
500 OGEN

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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>> No.17241071

>>17241024
correct, 1x1 = 1. so 1x1 + (initial investment WHICH is also 1) = 2. necc yourself retard.

>> No.17241072
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Scouring 13g filings pays off

>> No.17241073

>>17241065

Phew, you just made it in time.

>> No.17241105

>>17241019
This is ironic, you've proven that not only can you calculate percentages, you can't do basic multiplication.

Even if I'm retarded, you haven't posted your total return because you've made fuck all. Even if you're right, and you're not, you're getting destroyed by a retard.

>> No.17241106

>>17241095
>>17241095
>>17241095
neu-thred

>>17241095
>>17241095
>>17241095

>>17241095

>>17241095

>> No.17241107

FUCK TRIPFAGS
FUCK REDDIT
FUCK REDDIT TOURIST TRIPFAGS

>> No.17241112

>>17241073
>1 post by this ID
no one cares about you after you namefagged that day retard stop posting from a diff ip

>> No.17241120

>>17241105
>getting destroyed by a retard
yeah i dont think so pal. jog on retard lmfao.

>> No.17241136

>>17241059
Not enough SPCE desu

>> No.17241140

>>17241112
No clue who or what you're talking about, friend. I just woke up, it's 8:30 in beautiful New Mexico.

>> No.17241177

>>17240950
>you didnt 2x your money retard. you 1x'd it. fuck me, this is seriously the people who are giving advice here? lmfao
Yes you did. If you made one times your money, you didn't make any money. Learn math, you dumb animal.
>>17241120
Post return. Imagine talking this much shit and having to lie about someone doing math wrong in order to escape the fact that you're a tripfaggot who sucks at investing.

>> No.17241480

>>17240357
I think Brave isn't based on Google's software.

>> No.17241485

>>17241136
Seems too late.

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>>17240809
>imagine thinking if you started with 11k and end up with 44k, you think you 4x'd your money. you 3x'd it you stupid inbred retard.
>44 doesn't equal 4 times 11
Include me in the screen cap, good fellows.

>> No.17241604

>>17241136
Literally crashing lol

>> No.17241735

>>17241604
It will go back up, don't be jelly anon.30 EoD.

>> No.17241975

>>17241735
Ill buy the end of dip maybe, but no way in hell its 30 EOD.