/biz/ - Business & Finance

FUCK BEARS
FUCK RETARD /POL/ CHICKEN LITTLES
FUCK TRIPSHILLS AND ANTITRIPS

S&P TO 9003!!!

I am going to buy shares of this BDC and collect my dividend next Tuesday then sell my shares and there is nothing you can do to stop me

>>17232467
Who else has puts expiring tomorrow??

>>17232467
10K to spend, which stocks should tomorrow?

>>17232475
Im looking forward to see if Newell has a good presentation this year (last year was garbage)
Im also looking forward to SJM presentation
*The J.M. Smucker Company coffee bar available all week.
/CAGNY/

Got 50 bucks what should I buy

>>17232545
Buy after the weekend sell off at the end of the day

Pick up blue chips that dipped

Buy TMDX, or don’t.

>>17232504
My NVDA puts that I wrote expire tomorrow. Easy $8k lmao

>>17232555
Wait for the weekend sell off then buy a call for any bluechip except Amazon or Microsoft

Jesus christ, I just looked at my account history on an old account.. probably the most awkward shit I have ever seen.
>Deposit
>Account slowly drained to zero
>Deposit
>Account slowly drained to zero
>Deposit
>Account slowly drained to zero

I think I'm just gonna delete the account and acid wash my hard drive where I saved it

>>17232555
Treat yourself to a steak dinner friend. $50 will get you nowhere

>>17232597
Sounds sexy
Post em anon

I made $100 yesterday on a single call contract for msft

>>17232545
Buy KO if it dips below 58.75 tomorrow otherwise just buy it on Tuesday. FYI nobag tripfags and zoomers, markets are closed Monday.

Germanon here, are there any Americans who can share their insights on BAYER/Monsanto? Bayer lost more than 50% of its value after acquiring Monsanto, which seems to have been largey due to big courtcases against Monsanto for giving farmers cancer which Bayer is now responsible for. The stock has been recovering a lot in the last 6 months and with the added capabilities of Monsanto I don't see why it shouldn't be able to get at least back to its original price prior to the acquisition. But I don't have a good understanding of American law where individuals get sometimes awarded hundreds of millions in damages. This is a very alien concept to Europeans, when corporations fuck us over or kill us we get like 10k and a lukewarm apology at best.
So it's pretty hard to assert the risks to Bayer. It doesn't help either that Monsanto seems to be regarded as the most comically evil corporation on the planet by a large portion of the public...

>>17232613
THIS MAN IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED
BUY PEP ON WEAKNESS

>>17232533
>27 posts by this ID
I can’t wait til your world gets rocked by an errant nigger. Best of luck.

>>17232613
>>17232640
I’m genuinely invested in KO and PEP, they aren’t even each other’s greatest competitors anymore.

So, Coke unveiled their new Moscow Mule mixer

>>17232555
Some brewskies and tacobell desu

>>17232631
Monsanto and Bayer are absolutely everywhere in the states and most don't know

People sue for psychological damage which makes sense at a small scale but now we have precedents for how much a life is worth.

Also, big pharma charges real estate level prices for cancer drugs which compound class action lawsuits

>>17232678
We already have Seagram's ginger ale

It's just sugar and ginger

>>17232555
Buy SNSS
>>17232545
Buy SNSS
>>17232604
Break the pattern by buying SNSS

>>17232631
I would never invest in Bayer because I would never want to, in any way, support Monsanto any more than I already inadvertently do. Literally super villian tier business.
No hard feelings regardless what you do, make that money.

>>17232665
Me too :)
I’m excited to see how coke energy and Pepsi cafe do!
>>17232644
Why would you wish such a thing on another anon who’s done nothing to you?
Very rude.

Very disproportionate response. I hope you’re more measured off the Internet.

I need another 20k in foreign stock for death grip holding, what should I get as single stock? I already have 35k VEU, 10K EWJ, 10K EWG. Thinking SNE or HMC.

No more China though. That shit's going to pop soon and just my VEU exposure is enough.

>>17232551
I was eying Newell before earnings but there’s just too much uncertainty.
I’ll have to check out the schedule for the good webcasts!

>>17232718
Fucking stop

Find another security to hodl

We don't want your worthless shit

I'll restate this little thing for those who didn't know. The reason ONTX stock is at the price level it is now has zip/zero/nothing to do with the Drug itself. Rather its to do with them needing to raise money in order to fund research/trials on the drug. The drug itself is good. Now that they've got loads of cash till 2021 they're ready to roll. This is all in the investor guide.pdf on the site btw. That's why all those institutions are buying into it now; the company is flush with cash and is getting ready to fly big time.

>>17232718
Reminder that this faggot is trading with lunch money

>>17232551
You aren't actually coming to Florida for this, right?

>>17229306
>they plan to fully present the FINAL NASH RX trial in the coming weeks.
Can someone explain this to a brainlet who has no understanding of biopharm stock? What does this mean, is it good? I've seen people here say FDA approval is big, so I get why that would be a big deal.

>>17232678
don't mind if i do

>>17232678
Weird that Vivendi owns the Seagrams label lmao. Half Life x Seagrams when?

>>17232766
Maybe that lunch money is everything he has, in that case it's still impressive in a way, right?

>>17232762

What your exit price?

>>17232613
>Betting against King Cola
May Vishnu smite you for your insolence

>>17232778
GALT day is coming, sirs
Please sirs, do the needful and purchase the shares of the GALT stocks

>>17232789
Well thanks to having over 12k shares I don't need it to fly super high. 2.0 or 2.5 is plenty for my needs. Enough to kick start my long range plan at any rate. Sure if it goes past that, say to the 52 w high of 4.5, I'll take it but it's not a requirement.

>>17232718
How do I filter you?

>>17232698
Sprite's got the lime flavor though. If you want to complete your autistic moscow mule experience, you can just dribble your vodka straight into the can and pretend it's a copper cup

>>17232820
But you know institutions don't toss millions into something just for a puny x 2 on the investment. These groups go after the x 10's or more.

>>17232810
Bought $1k at 2.58

Going to the moon. Moon mission. Moon base. Bull moon.

>>17232775
Nope, Ill be having my own CAGNY in my bedroom

>>17232545
SPCE ignore tripfags

>>17232762
>>17232840
Which institutions have bought in? Can you list them?

>>17232904
It's already up 30% this week

>>17232762
The stock will soar once Rigosertib gets FDA approval, which could very realistically not happen this year, even though it is very likely to be approved due to the fast track designation. They said they anticipate having a readout of the INSPIRE trial 1H202. There's no actual timeline for FDA approval. Rigosertib does definitely have potential for billions in sales. It is the only drug in the world for MDS once HMA fails and there might be no reason for a patient who would benefit from it to not use it.

But none of that matters right now with the price. Mark my words, it is going to completely shit the bed by EOD tomorrow. Nobody cares about the FL conference. It's just the CEO reading the same powerpoint, which contains promising information, but nothing the stock prices gives a flying fuck about right now. Take profits if you can. I'll be getting back in below .4 for sure.

>>17232762
yes sirs ontx is vishnus newest power sharestock buy ontx sirsss!!!!

>>17232925
yes that proves it'll go up

>>17232911
https://fintel.io/so/us/ontx

>>17232467
TSLA has finished its dip. $1000 by next week. Plan accordingly.

>>17232964
>https://fintel.io/so/us/ontx
This information is completely wrong. It doesn't even have the correct CEO name.

Has galt been delisted yet?

>>17232810
>>17232841
I'm asking what it means, what step is it in medicine making?

>>17232843
Nice. See you there ;)

>>17232841
Nice. See you there ;^)

CPRX you mongs.

>>17233015
It will be when it's cashed out at $60 a share.

GALT to $60

BUY CHICKEN

Friendly reminder that 80% of this board has the trading habits of a degenerate gambling Chinese insect. And will likely rot away in the street destitute wondering why he didn't get lucky


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wretched-excess-means-theres-lots-of-troubles-coming-warns-berkshire-hathaways-charlie-munger-2020-02-12
>“They love to gamble in stocks. This is really stupid,” he said. “It’s hard to imagine anything dumber than the way the Chinese hold stocks.”

>>17233055

>>17233079
Chicken with feces covered in corona no thanks

There aren’t any options for this company, you won’t 2x overnight. I’ve been browsing 4chin since 2008 and have navigated the schizoposting and pajeet scams for over a decade.

Buy TMDX, don’t bankrupt yourself but just purchase a comfy position. When you’re old and shitposting on 4channel.gov, remember me.

>>17233119
also fuck tripfags
Sage btw

>>17232931
Do you say this from TA or intuition? What is the lowest it will dip, you feel?

>>17233116
No dipshit, India wants to import US chicken. Buy TSN and SAFM.

Well E-Trade finally put up my Tax docs for last year. Now I can get my taxes done over the weekend. Did most of the work already, just gotta put in my brokerage data. Fat Refund awaits.

>>17233149
other way around dummy indians are not aloud to eat chicken

>>17233137
Intuition. But I mean, the price is manipulated. It could do anything.

>>17232555
100 shares of ONTX

>>17233165
If you get a tax refund, you’re a poverty tier faggot.

>tfw the stupidest money move I ever made is almost over with my CD maturing next week
now, to throw this money at my real portfolio or meme penny stocks....

Ready to win fellow bears?

>>17232602
>Weekend sell off
Already happened. It's priced in

>>17233216
You’ve been getting btfo for weeks
Please
Stop
Also fuck tripfags

>>17233241
I'm up since going bearish

>>17232597
if they expire tomorrow why havent you sold them yet? ive never done options before and still learning about how it works, do they expire at market open or market close?

>>17233200
Soon you will be able to BUY SNSS

What are your guys' coronastocks? I'm in GILD, J&J, and INO.

>>17232904
This and only this. Richard Branson will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams.

Uh yeah KO, PEP,MSFT, etc is good and will keep pumping those divvies out for a long time still but wouldn't the smart play be to have a few stocks you like but keep the majority of your investment to a S&P Fund or Total Market Fund? Both funds pay out a divvy and the return is at least 8% in a bad market and at most like last year you'd have got 20%. So why not just dump 10k in them (5k each) or hell 10k to both, add monthly/annually and let time/drip/gains do the rest for you?

>>17233261
Hey you are into those bio stock, can you answer
>>17232778

>>17233336
I doubt it's true. GALT kinda flubbed their NASH trials. They need to start their phase 3 trials, maybe that is what anon is talking about, in which case they will get guidance from the FDA and then implement it. This would be a bullish act for them to take, but honestly it probably isn't coming until march or april.

>>17232904
>>17233293

I'm beginning to think SPCE is going to crash at 25.

What are the must read books on Algorithmic trading?

>>17233357
So that is the step before FDA, and then they go to market? I'm trying to learn.

name ONE good stock

>>17233367
Literally just came out of a crash. Nah it can meme hype to 30 by March and 50s by summer. I had some calls but switched to shares since it may be a slower start to the gains wagon.

>>17233119
I only have 9 TMDX... am I gonna make it? I have 12 KO and 4 SNE if it changes anything

>>17233407

What makes you think it'll hit 50? There aren't any fundamentals there.

>>17233182
Imagine being this retarded.

>>17233401
google

>>17233430
What is a fundamental? You have 5 minutes to explain it in your own words before I deem you a broke faggot.

Gonna be a red day tomorrow with all this coronavirus news spreading around and markets being closed on monday. My recommendation is to not open up your brokerage account of /smg/ tomorrow and spend your long weekend doing something other than degenerate stock trading.

>>17233430
While I also find 50s by summer is unlikely, I think SPCE is gonna go up a pretty substantial amount this year (I mean, it already has). About 8% of my portfolio is in SPCE.

>>17233464

An actual revenue source. A viable business model. Realistic prospects of making money. Appeal to ordinary consumers and not fringe millionaires. A snowball's chance in hell of being successful.

>>17233322
Ccchecked but do you want to get rich in 3 years or 30 years?

>>17233482
You know that that old British fuck isn’t building a space tourism company but another airline, right? Would you rather spend 1k to go from LA to Sydney in 18 hours or pay the same price to do so in 90 mins?

>>17233478
>Gonna be a red day tomorrow with all this coronavirus news spreading around and markets being closed on monday.

A perfect opportunity for loading up.

>>17233484
I would like to make 500k as quickly and safely as possible then live modestly off divvies.

>>17233514
Kys btw kike

>>17233478
>coronavirus news
priced in
>markets closed on monday
priced in

When was the last red thursday? shits already down bears are fucked tomorrow

>>17233508

I definitely hope so. I'm being hyperbolically pessimistic to test the waters/popular sentiment. I bought in at 16.80 during the first Coronavirus dip and am thinking about buying more.

>>17233531
today was barely red

>>17233527

Don't you agree, though?

>>17233478
>>17233531
Bro I'm a bear but even I have to admit that number will continue to go up as long as Fed is printing and lowering rates. Go learn yourself some economics already

>>17233537
>spoilers
Unironically go back to /v/ or redd^t (same thing since 2011) my dude

>>17233567

I keep forgetting.

>BYND

It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down~. Good tho, can't wait for this shit to hit 104. Gonna load up on this shit before earnings like a mad man.

>>17233577
If it hits 90 or lower again, i'm going to buy some some six month calls. This company displays bitcoin like levels of hype and panic

>>17233577
Here’s my secret:
Join the Redd*tor discord
Look at what they buy calls into
Buy puts opposite

>>17233484
Well that's kinda why I said do both. Stocks and Funds. So then you'd get it both short term and long term goals. But my case is kinda different. I've got a pension and a 401k and my only debt is the house. So I'm not exactly drowning in expenses you know. So I got time to kill. (and money to save/invest;actually if things work out I'll have even more money soon thanks to a higher paying job coming to me)

>>17232545
If you’re new, just buy and hold VOO.

uh guys? wheres my ONTX and biopharm bros at? all these corona fears and guess what i just found out. apparently a company got a sample of the virus today and developed their vaccine using preexisting algorithms in 3 hours and they think it will be ready for market by summer. is this shit a buy? its off hours and still climbing. company is INO

also good news from NVAX about their corona vaccine. what do you all think? are they worth buying

>>17233436
so if I manage to save up for a couple of these stocks, am I just guaranteed double ROI in a year or two?

>>17232982
i herp so

>>17233396
They won't go to market until at least after Phase 3. Some drugs have to do 4 phases of trials.

>>17233727
Yes stocks only go up

>>17233717
>BUY PNK AND ONTX SIRS

>>17233216
lmao bears btfo

>>17233732
I don't see Google going down

>>17232631
Yeah, this is how you Nazi fuckers get to pay back for the holocaust, because you’re ‘bout to get buttfucked. Monsanto spread around enough poison cancer shit to rack up a giga-fuckton of contingent liability. Eventually American courts will serial rape Monsanto into PTSD of the wallet.

I don't get the whole space tourism thing. First you gotta have shitloads of people to send up in order to even make the company turn a profit. Second don't these flights cost out the ass per person? So other than billionaires, who the hell has that kinda free cash just laying around to do fuck all with. Third aside from the first time going up and being legit excited to see space,earth and the moon,etc up close what's the further appeal? Whats' the lure to keep you wanting to go. It ain't like there's a space vacation resort or anything for you to visit.

>>17233288
I’m in abbvie and Regeneron. Neither of them need coronavirus cures to succeed.

Also for some Glaxo Merck and Lilly

>>17233731
Okay. Which step is SNSS on?

Show me your spreadsheet you use to track your portfolio.

>>17233776
it isn't tourism you brainlet
their model is to fly you and your obese wife from Nowhere, Indiana to Berlinistan, Germany in 60 minutes or less or your pizza is free.

>>17233776
>It ain't like there's a space vacation resort or anything for you to visit.

I'm sure the international space station would be a pretty amazing place to visit.

>>17233776
The real play there is hypersonic travel

>>17233742
That's because stocks only go up.

>>17233783
One step closer to delisting like galt

>>17233798
Virgin Galactic cannot reach the ISS.

>>17233024
It means that galt is legally allowed to pay people to promote its stock online.

Usually companies advertise their products, brand, or contributions to society. GALT is allowed to advertise the possible economic benefit of buying their stock.

>>17233832
>2 posts by this id
>ESL fud
What did they mean by this?

>Futures blasting again
I'm just so sad I only have 2 contracts left on my ES long..

>>17233433
BULLISH AS FUCK
LEMME BUY MORE THEN PUMP MY BAGSSSS

I wonder if this could increase food price inflation, which I bet the fed does pay attention to.

futures up. bears utterly btfo again

>>17233858
No, it's literally impossible for them to reach the ISS using their current rocket. They go up 90km in altitude, the ISS 409 km on average. SPCE is a complete meme, it isn't even space tourism until you reach 100km because that is where the edge of space is defined.

>>17233783
phase 1b/2. But SNSS is a buyout bait type, it's not quite the same. BTK inhibitors are already proven, the second Vecabrutinib shows efficacy, several major companies will be falling over themselves to buy them out. Multibillion market cap before phase 2 is easy.

>>17232504
Lmao theres some dude on biz who all in on $640 tesla PUT LMAO

>>17233927
club on

>Green futures
Bullish AF

>>17233862
>>17233887
>SPX futures contracts up 0.26%
You assholes got me exited over THIS?

I wonder if I’ll let my short vix long spy leveraged ETFs ride into the weekend...

>>17233863
Based and tendiepilled

>>17233924
Thank you, I'm gathering the picture of how this works in my head. Is ONTX actually good from your research? I see both sides making dumb and seemingly intelligent posts, so I'm not sure who is in the right.

>>17233963
ONTX has potential, but it is less certain than SNSS or TROV

>>17233963
>>17233924
Samefag btw

>>17233573
SPCE is supposed to send branson into space this year
that's a pretty big fucking deal
thus the hype, should happen end of summer

>>17233956
Finna grab more. I was hoping some firms would downgrade it and then Xi would buy. This Indian thing is news to meg I’m hoping they pull through.

I’ve been noticing a lot of Chick-fil-A being built in my area... Popeyes lit a fire on the chicken sammich segment. That might be enough if the foreigners crap out.

Modi has also been talking about making a big order of Lockheed helicopters in the leadup to trumps visit. I’m selling puts in LMT, hold shares and want to hold more!

>>17234002
No.

>>17234006
>SPCE is supposed to send branson into space this year
that's a pretty big fucking deal
It's not, it's a nothingburger bag holders will jerk off about but it doesn't mean anything. They said they were going to have commercial flights in 2011. Where are they?

OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHA

looks like Zuck is finna Winklevoss another sucker! I wish I had more than 2 FB’s!

>>17234011
Does TSN supply Chick Fil A and Popeyes? Pic related

>>17233776
Not sure if it's true but I read somewhere Virgin Galactic has 600 reservations at $250K and the next round of bookings with be $1 million per seat. There's a lot of people with money and if they want to do this kind of thing they have one place to go, for now. Really excited to hear some news about doing point to point travel but that feels somewhat far off.

>>17234000
Is the potential months or years away, or right around the corner?

>>17234002
1 Post by this ID without fail

>>17234044
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/pinterest-shares-fall-after-facebook-releases-new-copycat-app.html
>>17234046
No clue how the supply chains work. I wish Tyson weren’t trying to steal share from bynd by branching into that market, but it’s not a crazy play for them. I want to buy more.

>>17234089
I’ll probably buy more as well. I bought 10 shares because they’re one of the few publicly traded companies that can export to China. Coronavirus has devastated China’s chicken and pork supply, and millions of chinks are going to experience famine soon.

>>17234058
A seat on SpaceX's Crew Dragon to the ISS can be as low as 8 million. What rich person is going to go into space for all of five minutes when they could spend a few days on the ISS?

All of their 250k seats won't turn a profit, it will take years to get into the more expensive seats and by that time they're going to be competing with Starship which will be even cheaper than crew dragon and can bring hundreds of people to space at a time. They don't have anything that can compete with this, it took them over ten years just to get to this point and they still haven't had a single commercial passenger.

>>17234065
Around the corner. ONTX has the advantage of an empty market to receive their drug. Once they get established into their next step, they have a strong upside.

>>17234129
Image should have the black guy labeled as DIRECTOR OF LITERALLY WHO

post folio or your fake news

>>17233776
People like this cant imagine the thrill it is to experience microgravity and see the entire earth. They're content to sit in their suburban neighborhood and for excitement they go to disney.

>>17234166
Post your yearly return. We don't care what memestocks you own.

>>17234155
But are what people saying true, that the conferences are nothing and a selloff will start soon from inpatients? Sorry about these questions.

>>17234166
Do I have to many stonks?

>>17234176
You can experience micro gravity for just tens of thousands of dollars using existing services. A million to spend five minutes in space is stupidly high. Virgin is going to get ruined by real spaceflight companies bringing people up to space hotels unless they ditch their meme plane and get into real rockets.

>>17234211
This week I learned a lot, secure profits, especially on meme stocks

>>17233119
>I have 30 TMDX

I hate being poor.

>unironically picking stocks when you can just buy a total market ETF

So, about options. As long as I'm not planning on writing uncovered options, I can just buy calls or puts and only stand to lose what I put up for the contract(s), right? The absolute worst that can happen is the option expiring worthless?

>>17234236

>>17234251
yes

>>17234251
That's true regardless if they are covered or not

>>17234249
Post your total return last year.

>>17234227
>Virgin is going to get ruined by real spaceflight companies bringing people up to space hotels unless they ditch their meme plane and get into real rockets.
Who would those other companies be at this time? Spacex and blue origin's arent even ready for human flight. No one has this ready except virgin galactic. They have a huge leap and possibility of hypersonic travel on earth.

>>17234178
but its only midway to feb

>>17233126
>your account is restricted from purchasing
What the fuck did you do? You can't even buy the stock you're shilling?

Also fuck tripfags and I'm pretty sure sage and noko don't work properly on /biz/

>>17234249
>buying a total market etf when you can buy a leveraged index etf

>>17234251
They will expire worthless the majority of the time.

>>17234275

I'm applying for options trading through Fidelity, and there's a note in the terms describing how writing an uncovered option can lose you "many times greater than the cost of the option itself". I don't plan on writing options, I just plan on buying or selling them. Or am I misunderstanding this?

>>17234304
Selling is writing

>>17234295
not if they're deep in the money...
>>17234304
> there's a note in the terms describing how writing an uncovered option can lose you "many times greater than the cost of the option itself"
That is why you open an option spread, capping your losses and gains. As exciting as infinite gains are, infinite losses are uhhhhhh pretty bad.

>>17234328
Nah you can buy an option and then sell it to someone else.

$CMTL is unstoppable. Hope you bought, boys

>>17234331
>Nah you can buy an option and then sell it to someone else.

This is literally all I plan to do.

>>17234331
you can, but he said he was buying or selling

>>17234201
Go to their website. You can download the presentation slides. They just gave their investor presentation to investors in NYC, a much bigger deal than Hollywood, FL. It's the same information. And the event in Austria or wherever the fuck later this month is just the CEO speaking at a medical conference. About cancer. It's not about his company. So after these duds, what's left? FDA approval for Rigosertib is months away at best. If you guys think there is not going to be a better entry into ONTX from now until FDA approval you are just wrong. It might gain tomorrow. If it does, how many bagholders that were burned Tuesday are getting the fuck out?

>>17234201
The conferences are a way to spread the word about the drug and it's potential (and the Profit it'd bring in). Investors get to hear the skinny directly from the CEO's own mouth which is far better than just some cheap ass words on a page. Also ONTX has to pony up money to even go to these conferences so they've got a financial stake in making it worth the time. The real kicker for the stock will be the Phase 3 results due out soon. This year, march - june. Once those come out and it shows the drug works, well all doubt will be gone.

>>17232824
4chanx
select the drop down
filter tripcode

someone lost and someone made 150m in GLD over a couple weeks at the 139 Put 3/20

#rekt

>>17234364

I meant buying or selling options I've already bought before the expiration date, if I already stand to make a decent profit.

>>17234251
Yes
but the premium reflects the probability of profit
It may be a little money at one time, but your odds of winning anything are low, you also have theta to deal with

>>17234353
So you don't have to sorry about infinite loss, although if you don't understand this concept yet you might want to do some more research before slowly dippy ya penis in

>>17234280
We're talking years down the line. There's nothing to suggest that Virgin is going to commercially launch anytime soon, and again, they have to get through their 600 reservations before they can even begin to turn a profit. SpaceX can launch Crew Dragon anytime, and it has been well tested over the last few years, but it's being delayed by NASA until this spring because they have to spend more time training their astronauts who will stay on the ISS longer than initially expected.
>possibility of hypersonic
That was ripped off directly from SpaceX, which will be able to do it far cheaper than them with hundreds of people per flight instead of six. Starship is basically like a 737 and SpaceShipTwo is like a cessna, they're incomparable.
>They have a huge leap
Virgin are not taken seriously by those in the industry. They're barely even able to get into space and won't be able to get beyond that without completely changing their method. SPCE doesn't even own Virgin Orbit, they're two separate companies so even if they figure out a way to move cargo, it doesn't matter to shareholders.

SPCE is bullshit, it's built on nothing but speculation and idiots pretending that it's going to be the next TSLA. I'm not going to short it, but they people talking about it here need to understand what they are talking about instead of writing bullshit about how it's going to take over the spaceflight industry.
>>17234282
Post your 2019 total return.

>>17234426
>SPCE is bullshit, it's built on nothing but speculation and idiots pretending that it's going to be the next TSLA
Have you not been paying attention? That's all that matters. People arent buying stocks based on earnings now but expected earnings. People expect virgin to resume flights in summer and begin taking passengers. They expect profits by 2022.

>>17234426
Now post yours

>>17234456
>1,890
come on son that's embarassing

>>17234374
Also from what I've read due to the nature of this cancer (bad shit if you get it) if the results meet the FDA guidelines then they get an automatic approval right from the get go. No further FDA hoops to jump through. If the drug doesn't meet the guidelines but still shows effectiveness then they have to still jump through the FDA hoop fest. But all the above may end up being moot. If the results show loads of promise Big Pharma may swoop in for the kill. Which at the current price or hell even $2 would be nothing to big pharma.

>>17234489
I only started in December tho so

>>17234447
> That's all that matters
No it's not. Speculation only gets you so far. The people currently in the stock are going to want to jump to the next meme instead of holding for years until their first commercial flight. It may rebound if there are enough bag holders but it's going to be a painful process for them. Analysts haven't even beyond to rip SPCE and their business plan a new asshole.
>They expect profits by 2022.
Their source is "dude, trust me". They said that they were going to commercially launch in 2011, what they say doesn't mean anything. From the time that they launch to profitability will take years and by that time, their rivals will start eating them alive. What good is a spaceflight company that cannot spend more than five minutes in space?
>>17234456
I already did last thread, I'm in the OP. Why do you namefag when you're not making any real money and no one should care what you have to say regarding stocks?

>>17234527
>im in the OP

Couldn't be gayer than that.

>>17234500
IV Rigosertib will very likely be approved. It's just a matter of when it actually happens. The drug is like 15 years in the making. Then they have the combination trial for oral Rigosertib with BMY's namebrand azacitidine (which was acquired when they purchased Celgene). That's still in Phase 2. But that's why there is also rumors of BMY buying ONTX. And I think they would probably get bought out for higher than $2. Rigosertib on its own has potential for billions in sales. But it's all just speculation. And it just had a shitcoin tier pump and dump. That's why it's 0.53.

>>17234407
>although if you don't understand this concept yet you might want to do some more research before slowly dippy ya penis in

The gist is that selling contracts for shares you don't own means that come time for the seller to exercise them (if they can), you have to pony up the shares anyway, yes? And having to pony up shares you don't have the money for is when shit hits the fan.

>>17234513
>I only started in December tho so
Cringe.
>>17234557
I don't know, it's pretty gay to spend two and a half months losing money trading and then come here and give people bad advice on what you think they should do while trying to make a name for yourself in the process. Have you considered shutting the fuck up and lurking more?

>>17234557
>Couldn't be gayer than that.
oh but you are, tripfaggoter

>>17234580
Sorry, *buyer, not seller

>>17234580
ye

>>17234583
>make money
>"stop posting, you're losing money, only I should post"

>>17234579
>there is also rumors of BMY buying ONTX.
Are these rumors grounded in anything, or just stocktwit type hearsay?

Jesus fuck I didn’t realize how new this retard namefig is. No wonder he was telling anon to SELL SPY CALLS!

If you have no experience and nothing to teach, and if you’re new as fuck, don’t put on a name or a trip.

Chup boy learned this lesson well and made lots of $$$ from anons who appreciated it.

>>17234607
If you don't even beat the market, you have no business giving anyone here investment advice. The fact that you don't start all your posts with 'i'm a huge retard new to trading but here is what I think' is deceitful as fuck and it's very likely that you have cost other people money with your bad advice given solely to fuel your own narcissism.

>>17234615
lmao. If BMY determines that Rigosertib will sell billions, they could afford to do it, and they're already doing a combination study with them for that same drug. There is NO drug in the world for MDS patients who fail HMA and ONTX has the patent until 2037.

PURGE ALL:

TRIPFAGS
NAMEFAGS
SHILLS
TRANNIES
JANNIES

NO EXCEPTIONS

>>17234628
>making .40 credit is BAD!

>>17234644
SPY is up 4% and I'm up 20% YtD SELLING SPY CALLS

>when NONAMEFAGS get assblasted that other people are making money

>>17234667
Are you selling naked calls? How are you hedging?

My favorite strategy in this bull market has been selling cash secured puts on Apple and Microsoft. Been reeling in some nice dough.

>>17234649
Oh so the rumor comes from BMY working closely with ONTX?

>>17234681
To expose myself to as many +EV and high theta-efficiency trades while reducing my buying power reduction as much as possible and redeploying capital at certain time intervals

>>17234679
damn retard calm down.

>>17234719

>>17234667
>SPY is up 4% and I'm up 20% YtD
LMAO. Your allowance money is going to go through the roof. Maybe you can hire a therapist in order to understand what went wrong in your life that you were drawn to seeking attention on 4chan.

>>17234727
papa how much does your average trade cost

>>17234734
Here kid, here's a few bucks, buy yourself a few hamburgers, would ya? Ya lookin' a little scrawny!

Tips and general advice anons? I'll take anything from stocks/option plays
to how to better understand volume, market cap and volatility too. All lessons are appreciated. Tired of losing cash even if it is just a few $K. I need to win

>>17234743
fitty cent

nice general retards

>>17234774
do you get a nickel back?

>>17234784

>>17234784
What would you like to talk about friend? What is one thing that you are happy about this week?

>>17234784
>Filtering me
Filtered. You won't ever recover.

>>17234769
Step 1: don't have negro tier intelligence
Step 2: learn how to trade volatility around earnings.

>>17234815
it filtered you because you replied to tripfags idiot

>>17234665
Based and sociopathic

Someone tell me what this person said, I cannot see it.
>>17234831
I can't see what you're saying. You're going to have to send it again. Thanks.

>>17234065
hopefully not years away. probably months to a year assuming nothing goes wrong and the current phase 3 trial wraps up with good data results

also the company has another form of this rigo drug and other drugs in the pipeline and theyve been around for over 20 years so im sure it has nowhere to go but up from 50 cents. i dont think it will just disappear

>>17234002
This. Imagine spending all day everyday shilling a penny stock in a slow thread, on a dead board, to try to pump your menial bags. SNSSfag really is a pathetic loser

>>17234831
Nice
I’m cool with being filtered until the next thread because I gave that Newfig a (You). I support the cause.

>>17234201
im sure people will sell off at the first minor bump up but who cares they are shortsighted. would you feel smart if you sold your google shares for $30 back in the day after you bought them for $10? im not saying thsi company is anything close to google but theres definitely room to grow from 50 cents

>>17233216
the whole thing goes up in flames soon. i think this year. definitely time to hit the escape hatch into real assets and hard money. don't get caught with your pants down. the party will not go on forever. they didn't learn shit from 2008 and they've pulled all their parachutes already.

I have to imagine that an AI algorithm can day-trade jew at light speed if you just feed it years worth of financial data and news feeds. Id there a company I can invest in that is doing that? Also won't that basically break day trading?

>>17234817
I read to avoid IV crush get options a month before earnings, enjoy the hype and profit and sell before the report date. Or Iron condor/straddle it but that's too advanced for me. I'm still a beginner

Who else waking up to those NVDA and ROKU tendies

>>17234926
algo's already run things. humans have to trade in greater and greater timescales to be effective.

What's all this penny stock shit I'm seeing?

Fucking buy calls you autists. Buy high, win big. It's literally free money

>>17234615
BMY already bought the rights to the drug rigosertib like 8 years ago

>>17234957
Oh shit, does that mean it's priced in?

>>17234956
im trying to figure out how it works still. i dont understand what the percents mean and why some are more expensive than others, and i have no idea what "the greeks" mean.

im not even sure why i cant choose different dates than the presets in RH

>>17234895
The difference is that your meme stock won't have growth anywhere close to GOOGL and even if it does turn out, you could have made more money elsewhere with a much lower risk reward ratio.

Take LCI for instance, probably the best example of a meme stock and worthless bag holders. If it did start breaking out, everyone here could quickly jump back into it and they didn't have to hold it for years and watch as it kept going lower and lower with all their capital tied up in it.

>>17234996
Prices are usually based on volatility of the stock and the stock price

As the stock goes up, limit prices for strikes increase and as it goes down so does the limit price.

Theta is what will fuck you. Depreciation as it gets closer to the expiration date. If the stock is below your strike price, it expires worthless and you lose 100%. However you can sell your calls at any time so if you're plus, collect tendies.

Most end every Friday. Stuff like SPY expire every couple days.

Pretty much choose a decent volatile stock at the beginning of the week that is having an earnings report that week they you expect to do well. Buy high strike price calls so you don't spend as much, or if you're okay with potentially losing that amount, earnings is good. Tendies come

>BEAM
I was going to jump on this but decided to give ontx a shot instead. Missed out on 52.16% in a week. FUCK TRIPFAGS

Any of you dumb fucks buy into HPQ
I got some calls
@24.5 exp 3/27
Their earnings are going to come at the end of the month and Xerox is trying to buy them out.

hey assholes, why are futures up?

>>17235029
thanks this is very helpful.how do you calculate the reward though? thats what i dont get. why would anyone ever buy short term calls of a week or less when a year is guaranteed to have growth for almost any normal establish company in the american economy? like why arent people just doing calls on microsoft or google 2 years out from now? its not like they will go bankrupt and disappear unless america goes full commie and nationalizes them

>>17234956
Its because 4chin is a NEET hive & the only chance of making any money with little capital is to gamble on shitcoins & penny stocks

>>17235076
because today was red (barely) so now we will be blessed with a green friday into 3 day weekend.

>>17235095
i fukin hope so

>>17235076
Sell off got rejected during the day. Sell off also got rejected during early futures trading. Market always goes path of least resistance and least resistance is up at the moment.

>>17235079
Limit prices greatly increase the further out you go. If you have the capital, then yeah do several months or a year out, but with something like Microsoft you're looking at tens of thousands for just 1 option, whereas if you play earnings that week for a company you know has seen huge growth that quarter just do a week.

That's what I did with Amazon because their holiday sales were amazing. The stock even increased during the holidays because of it. I kept buying calls and got like 200k off earnings.

>>17235128
makes sense. Thank you JPow and ChingPow

>>17235085
But you can literally gamble with option calls and get more money faster

>>17235139
>But you can literally gamble with option calls and get more money faster
Let's face it, 90% of the people here who try to use options like that will quickly lose their money, they don't have your ability. A high percentage of them have somehow managed to lose money buying stocks during the biggest bull market of all time.

>>17235129
>I kept buying calls and got like 200k off earnings.
holy shit are you serious? how much capital did oyou start with? how much were you spending on each call, were you buying more than 1 option? so you just buy 1 week options? or how far out?

how do you settle on buying the best price? do you just buy whats offered or do you set a limit buy to lock in calls at a certain price?

The fed is still injecting to the market. That stops in April.

Kung flu will hit 2nd Q earnings and absolutely decimate Q3.

how do i get into the nasdaq if im aus?

>>17234665
BUT MOST OF ALL

NIGGERS

>>17235184
Well I had the capital to do it. I think I invested about 30k into Amazon alone.

I played around with Tesla and did 5 1000 calls which cost me 340. Well it jumped to 900 that week and I sold for like 34k. That was pretty nuts.

Try doing something with a volatile stock with a really high strike price and see what happens. If you lose, you only lose that small amount. If you win, you win big. I'm making all my money right now off Tesla, Amazon, NVDA and it's been going well for me.

>>17235247
Dude it's the last wave might as well buy houses in aus

>>17235247
Book a plane ticket? Do you mean trade NASDAQ listed stocks? That is dependent on what broker you chose, but you will of course have to pay the currency transaction fees so ideally you'll have an account that will let you hold USD so you don't have to pay fees every time you go to buy something.

>>17235247
move here illegally to california or any sanctuary state, buy a SSN number from any taco-cart pushing beaner here and get your drivers license from the DMV and register to vote. open your bank account using your address and voter registration paperowrk along with your photo ID drivers license and start buying stocks! its the american dream

>>17235287
quintessential

>>17235260
>I played around with Tesla and did 5 1000 calls which cost me 340. Well it jumped to 900 that week and I sold for like 34k. That was pretty nuts.
holy shit success stories from anons here like this make me happy. glad you made it

>>17235260
i was worried about tesla because i saw their cars were recalled for steering problems but the fucking stock still went up 50 bucks yesterday so i dont know wtf to think.

Holy fuck NVDA after hours
how does this shit happen, and how do I play this in the future?

Any opinion on why dix works so well for sp500 but not for stocks?
Is it the averaging out of the multiple compounds?
But then sector etfs should work too. Can't confirm but from some estimations I'd say that they don't.

>>17235260
You're a God among men and your anecdote is highly appreciated. I've been messing around with buying calls a couple of months to expiration, trying at the money and way out of the money. I'm sitting on some MSFT $230 for June 19th hoping this Jedi thing blows over. I did some bull call spreads too to wrap my head around that. I'm hoping to gain enough experience and confidence to do similar to what you're doing. Weeklies on earnings or fucking best. I was in a shit mood but you've made my night my dude.

>>17235343
>how does this shit happen, and how do I play this in the future?
Earnings beat expectations. If earnings are released after closing bell, the stock will jump during after hours trading. This typically leads to a gap up open the following day. How to play? It's a coin flip. Sometimes companies beat earnings but the stock drops the day after, sometimes because they included worse guidance than expected or something, sometimes just because the stock is bearish or the stock is waaaaaay the fuck overbought and everybody stampedes out at the beginning of the day. Conversely, sometimes stocks totally miss earnings but pump anyways.

During my trades, I hold through earnings maybe 20% of the time and only if the stock is bullish, but not parabolic, and highly likely to beat due to their past performance and the current healthy state of the sector it's a part of.

>>17235343

>>17235216
>that stops in April
If and only if, and this is important so I want you to pay attention: the Fed stops repo operations in April if and only if they don’t extend repo operations beyond April.

>>17235348
Volume id guess. Also I don’t think DIX is just the daily short volume, assuming you’re the anon who’s been trying that.

Also not sure if it’s even that useful or if it’s just recency bias since we’ve been in a bull run and we’re always interpreting dix to be bullish.

>>17235505
What did anon mean by this?

I generally hate it when stocks run into earnings and prefer it when they sell. I don’t know how often this is true, but it seems like running into earnings means overhyped high expectations and selling off means low expectations that make it much easier to rally from.

>>17234665
I think it's time.
JANNIES WILL KNOW THEIR PLACE!!!!!!
I FUCKING LOVE CAPATILISM, FREE MARKETS, AND SLAVE JANNIE LABOR, HAHAHAHAHAHA. CLEANING SHIT UP FOR FREE MAKES IT SO MUCH BETTER.
MY FUCKING BOWELS ARE NOT DONE YET JANNIE, THOSE WEEK OLD MCCHICKENS. WERE JUST A TASTE OF WHAT WAS TO ERUPT FROM THE STAR THAT SHINES BROW. AHHHHHHHH, THE SHELL FISH HORDERVES I HAD WITH MY BROS TO CELEBRATE THEIR GAINS ARE DROPPING. OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH FFFFFFIUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK. pfft, brrrrrraaaaaaaaapppppooo. Sorry jannie false alarm, be ready. That shrimp you served us may have been bad. FUCKING FREE SLAVE LABOR!!!!! HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT BAD SHRIMP SMELLS LIKE. THE INVISIBLE HAND WILL CORRECT YOU. FREE MARKETS FUCK YEAH. MURICA!!!!!!
FUCK:
Kikes
Niggers
Pajeets
Bugman
Jannies
>LCI,BFG,GALT ARE MEMES

>>17235635
was just thinking of autistically comparing the pumps percentage-wise between SOXL and NVDA, as the latter makes up so much of the former and so i thought it would be an interesting look into that interaction

>>17235707
Ooooooh

TSMC is the biggest component last I checked, so I bet it’s enjoying some of the ride from NVIDIA.

>>17235613
>DIX is just the daily short volume
It is. In the case of sp500 it's the dollar weighted aggregate of the sp500 compounds.
>we’re always interpreting dix to be bullish.
Not really. Dix values are bucket mapped to the corresponding historical returns...I think. Dix below ~40 usually forcasted negative returns so far.
It's quite accurate for dips and recoveries in the sp500. The timing is also too accurate to be some bias.
I thought it's maybe the dark pool - non dark pool volume ratio but that doesn't make much sense either.
I think I will try the sector etf approach. My dix estimation is probably too rough. I guess it's the averaging out over multiple compounds which does it.

>>17235737
yeah i didn't know the exact proportions, and thought that comparing the two in that pump might lead me to a more practical insight as to what they were

>>17235707
>>17235737
Amd got some pump too from nvidia I think. They all seem to have drifted up with it. Probably bullish news for sector after China stuff.

>>17235707
I'm almost all in SOXL in my Robinhood account and this is what it looked like today with the nice after hours bump

Based Chinamen cooking the books. Gonna be green tomorrow

>>17235796
>worried about 108 deaths, <1200 deaths total
>h1n1 killed 280,000 after cdc revised upwards
>10,000 flu deaths in amerimutts 2020
>80,000 deaths 2019
>>hurrhurrburrhurr china eating bats and spreading corona virus, come to amerimutttistan and be safe!!!!!

>>17235837
read it again

>>17235796
Resurrection
New life
God is with us

>>17234166
dude u oversmoked the TT koolaid

>He doesn't filter tripfags
lmao

>>17233904
What does elons cum taste like?

>>17235635
>I don’t know how often this is true, but it seems like running into earnings means overhyped high expectations and selling off means low expectations that make it much easier to rally from.
It goes both ways. You're right that a sell off in to earnings beat can juice the gap up pretty nicely when the stars align, whereas a run up in to earnings can be followed by muted enthusiasm even if the numbers are great. But the opposite of both of those happens all the time too. Earnings are the wild card. However, it's not as reliable as you might expect to bet for volatility (in either direction) and set up an options play around that outcome such that you will make money if the stock moves a lot but lose if it sits still.

>>17234138
> who would by a lambo when someone could buy a bugatti?

You're really not thinking this through dude. Why are you so upset about spce anyways?

>>17236069
>>17236069
>>17236069

NEW
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>>17236069
>>17236069
>>17236069

>>17234138
>Paying 8 mm to stay on a soundstage and sign a NDA
Kek

>>17235983
Agreed!
I used to think strangles were a great idea on stocks I knew would move wildly in either direction, like amd. Now that I’ve added spreads and straddles, I’ve looked at IV and thought Iron condors was likely a much better option.

The trend lately is for the stock to move dramatically in one direction, then the other. Usually this means it dumps at the open (where you could close your call spread) then pumps the rest of the days (when you could close the put side of the spread)

I didn’t do it and I don’t know if it works. I suspect it works much better when the earnings are reported premarket, and the auto generated news stories come out with FUD based on limited information.