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>>17066576
graduated last december, started a contract position in GIS (even though I'm a mechanical engineering). After 6 months, applied for an internal position as a fiber engineer and now I make ~54k + 6k in (((bonuses)))

it's alright.

>>17066607
And just to clarify, the contract position I was only planning on holding onto 6 months anyways, just wanted it for my resume since I had fuck all in terms of experience, and I was really struggling with not having any professional experience on my resume. SImilar plan here, although I'm probably gonna stick it out for a year and a half.

>>17066576
Worked as an English teacher abroad after college and came back with basically no experience related to my degree. Almost became an insurance sales rep for a mlm fortune 100 and then applied for back office jobs a few months later. Took about 1 month to get a job and stayed for a year. Raise wasn't enough to cover health insurance (turning 26) and got a better back office job somewhere else (about 2 months of applying). Counteroffer was too low so I moved firms. Currently in the middle class. I earn as much as military contact programmers without the overtime and have great health coverage. Soon to buy a house and start a family.

Got a two year degree and got hired at the first and only place I applied making $31/hr. A year later I went to another place, again first application and hired but for 43/hr. Being a nurse sucks but there are advantages I guess.Mississippi is a low cost of living state so working 60 hours a week goes pretty damn far. I found them by googling the places closest to me since I don't like driving.

went to a career fair 6 months after graduating and having no luck getting a career started. got interview set up from career fair, got job starting at $60k at a large public company doing IT stuff. stayed with said company for several years while demonstrating my value, now i get paid $160k

>>17066576
Went through a job training program, got me interviews and got a job right away. Before that, it was obnoxious. Find some kind of middleman agency that can connect you to the interviews is my best advice. Online applications are ultra competitive and get trashed very quickly. You just need your foot in the door, then as long as you can stay in the job it's easymode from there.

Spain
Studied a shitty degree
Took me 2 years to find a job related to it
27,000€/year. It's pretty low compared to your salaries but enough to live around here.

>>17066607
Congratulations, you make less than if you had dropped out of college and become an electrician. Or truck driver. Or almost any other career.
>there are still people who refuse to believe engineering is a meme

>>17066788
I'll just keep moving up then friend. I'd rather do this than be a fucking electrician or a truck driver.
>you make less if you worked a shitty job hurr durr

>>17066788
even if they were both the same income for 10 years, the white collar job is far superior in terms of quality of life

I studied mechanical engineering, and it took a year and a half/1500 job applications to land a job as a controls """"""engineer"""""". I was basically a construction worker and my job mostly entailed installing shit on a construction site under shit/extremely dangerous conditions (think shock hazards, breathing in glass, and electrical explosions). The best part is that I was one of the lowest paid people on the job site, even though I had a college degree. I've since left that bullshit to become a data scientist for a big department store, and I'm on track to make $120k this year in the midwest.

>>17066798
>>17066809
You studied an extremely technical and difficult subject, only to be given less social value than a schoolteacher, or perhaps even a garbageman (salary-wise). The only way we can fix how fucked engineering has gotten is by acknowledging the problem. I studied it because I enjoyed the material, but it turns out that it's an absolute shit career because of how badly engineers have let themselves get cucked by management. Just look at Boeing.

>>17066858
But I did enjoy the material. My only regret is that I should have done electrical or stuck to aerospace because I probably would have walked into a more interesting job.

Once again -- back up here, I'd rather be doing this than EITHER of those jobs, and I'm not gonna stay loyal if I don't keep getting raises. I sit in a chair, spend a few hours on my phone every day, and get tons of praise. I don't disagree with you, but you can fuck right off if you think I'd rather be doing EITHER of those jobs.

>>17066809
>>17066858
both good points, but I say we just trash it all

>>17066880
And just to piggyback off this, I really struggled finding an internship because I got way too depressed in college, spent my weekends working a job at the recommendation of my parents, and kind of let my grades suffer. Still graduated with a 3.3 I guess, but I definitely fucked up somewhere. Oh well. Gonna just stick to this for a year, see where I'm at. First time i've ever been able to "live"

>>17066858
Oh no it's definitely fucked and cucked but guess what I can sit around and act like I'm working and make the same or greater income as someone who risks their fingers every day while I focus on how to actually make the big bucks which is business and finance.

>>17066906
honestly older I get, less I really care about money. The biggest lie of boomers is that you need money so you can CONSOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM but then I get older and I don't want to buy half of the stupid shit my parents said I would. I just want to read, go out to eat maybe once or twice a week, lift, and get /out/. Instead I fell for the jewish loan scam and have to work my ass off for them for the next 10 years. Great.

>>17066576
First interview out of school

Took me about a month. Wages were a bit lower than I wanted but I settled for 200k salary, 300k bonus scheme. Also got less on my options - only will be worth about 2 mill once they mature (2 more years).

>>17067181
weird larp but ok

studied international business. kept getting offers for "sales and marketing" jobs that get paid purely off commissions. MLM stuff. went to like 1 interview and a career fair.

Finally got a job from my neighbor after 6 months. getting paid 20 the hour.

>>17066576
I asked my dad if anyone he knew was hiring, game them a firm handshake, and that was that.

>>17066576
After sending about a hundred applications I applied to my current jobber, of 12 years, as a joke. I chuckled as I hit 'send'.

>>17066576
>How long did it take to find your job?
I wasn't looking
>Was it after many attempts?
0
>How did you find it?
It got offered to me by someone I'd met for about 10 min. I find that the best jobs I've had, they find you.

I could go on & explain how my life always works out, but I would only make you even more jelly

>even if they were both the same income for 10 years, the white collar job is far superior in terms of quality of life

It took me months of applying to every part time job in my area until I even got an interview, and so far I have only Been able to get seasonal positions, i get more hours than the regular employees but i would like an actual steady income

>>17066576
took me 2 days and i have the fucking sickest job ive ever had, so much fun just playing on racing simulators and slot cars all day.

>>17066576
I was asked to start there, like I was asked by the company I worked before.

>>17066576
>Master's in Stats
Probably around 200+ applications. 2 Calls, no interviews yet in 6+ months
Why is it all such an aids show?

>>17068174
run out of arguments?

>>17068323
You basically have to apply for jobs you're overqualified for to get a foot in the door.

For example, you can work doing data entry before becoming a data analyst, or property management before going into asset management in commercial real estate.

Yes, those are high school tier jobs but what are you going to do. At least you can more easily network by being in the field and it will help you find a decent fulltime job.

I spent 4 years in the military then had every job since then handed to me. I made about 120k before I got sick of the specific field I was in because it was depressing. Tried the trade meme, it was also dogshit so I went back to school only to discover that despite now having a Master's degree, the market sucked dick. In total it took me about 4 months to find a new job in a field similar to my original one. I got modest raise but it's 100% remote so I don't have to deal with some of the same problems as before. All in all, I'm pretty comfy right now.

My message is this, that even with a graduate degree and a decade in the workforce, I was having a hard time finding a job that was over 60k/yr in my large metro area. Also, do not fall for the trade meme unless you have the capital or equipment to start your own business.
>>17066607
GIS is pretty fun. I don't know if that means I'm autistic or what but I enjoyed making maps and fucking with databases.

>>17068969
Honestly anon, you should even apply to jobs taht you're UNDERqualified for. That said, you bring up a number of good points about networking too. I have walked into two jobs in the past, bypassing all other applicants, simply because the hiring manager knew I was reliable.
>>17068323
Do you have any programming experience and live in the United States or UK? I might have something for you. Keep applying, it unfortunately is a numbers game and 33 apps per month are sadly rookie numbers.

>>17069108
I know I'm not blasting out applications by the dozen every day, but to keep my sanity I work on personal projects: modeling sports data, data visualizations, volunteer work and the like.
I'm self taught in python, sql, tableau and know R, excel etc and live in the US
>>17068969
I have been contacted a few times about data entry positions, and I thought recruiters were just being bad at their jobs. Going to school for 18+ years just to get $17/hr doing data entry is beyond demoralizing especially considering I got $20 hr out of high school for computer tech work. But I do understand the opportunity for networking and the like.
Instead of doing that, I was going to just take the P exam and try to get an actuarial job, which sadly is also boring but at least pays well (assuming I can get a job doing that)

>>17069108
The reason this happens is because the hiring manager knows youre not an insufferable retard. They don't want to get sued for discrimination or something once you get to the interview by taking less qualified candidates because they dont like you.

>>17069200
Check out Microfocus, most of their jobs are remote and I know for a fact they’re hard up for millennials to replace the retiring workforce.
>t. DEFINITELY NOT IN HR THERE

>>17066576
Took me about a year to find my first job, while on a night walk I saw a place that looked interesting literally just walked in asked if they were hiring they gave me an application to fill out few days later got called in for a interview, was hired on the spot.
Whole thing felt like a breath of fresh air compared to how many times I tried other places and all the hoops, waiting times , multiple websites, and other bullshit I had to jump through previously

>>17066738
>got interview set up from career fair, got job starting at $60k at a large public company doing IT stuff. stayed with said company for several years while demonstrating my value, now i get paid $160k
How did you increase your salary by 160% in just a couple of years while staying in the company? Stuff like that usually only happens if you keep moving jobs or if literally everybody above you left the company

>>17066701
>I found them by googling the places closest to me since I don't like driving.
That's what I do to find jobs, I use google maps. Just search for the kind of business that needs your labor and do some research which are hiring, which often involves phone calling or going there in person.

>Laid off from last job
>Applied to my new job the same day
>2 interviews, some paperwork, 1 month later we're deciding on my start date
>Start 1 month after that

Successfully applying for this job was actually easier than successfully applying for unemployment.

>>17068197
Is your dad CEO of chuck e cheese's?

>Was 24 back in 2010. Graduated with a CS major
>Could not find work for 6 months because of no experience
>Did menial part-time work for 2 years
>Decided to go back to school for training in 2015
>Actually did co-op for internship experience
>Told myself this is do-or-die. I better make the most out of this internship
>6 years later, I'm now a Sr Java Dev making $180k

If I could do it, so can you guys.

>>17069051
Gis ain't bad, but I do feek overqualified for my position. It is still challenging, but I don't use 99 percent of what I do now

>>17066576
I'm unironically self-employed, work online and make 100-250k/ year post tax. I choose when and how much I work. Extremely comfy. Only downsides are the lack of socializing and the fact that it's difficult to predict my exact income (can be stresful and it's difficult to get a mortgage).
Can't say exactly what I do because I don't want competition.

>>17066576
I've never had a job besides working at a restaurant for 2 weeks as a teenager.
I'm self-employed, work online and make 100-250k/ year post tax. I choose when and how much I work. Extremely comfy. Only downsides are the lack of socializing and the fact that it's difficult to predict my exact income (can be stresful and it's difficult to get a mortgage).
Can't say exactly what I do because I don't want competition.