/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for spy double bottom,closing above 327 today,lifted by mad
Buy tqqq

>>17031812
Second for killing all tripfags (in Minecraft)

> sell my silver
>literally 2 minutes later it goes up 0.6%

Trip- and Namefriends welcome - edition

This is the big one.

good luck.

Basic reproduction number is incredible on this Virus. Asymptomatic spread and carriers.

>>17031832
Fuck off.

Accumulate REFR

What is better than waking up to a pile of gains from that shit you bought the day prior?

Reminder to hedge
Reminder take corona serious

>>17031839
All is red. All is prepped to be sold.

>>17031849
Hey what ever happened to those tesla puts did you get out at a good time?

>>17031839
>also we will get a massive stimulus plan in China sooner than later Xi cannot survive a sharp growth selloff....Plus it strengthens Trumps hand in phase 2 this is all VERY bullish US
>https://twitter.com/fxmacro/status/1222882475199864835
bulls are coping hard on twitter

>>17031856
I took the loss, but made up for it with some volatility and bear shit.

In. Times like this

Ensure you have a short hedge to counter market downturnrr

Do not get caught call heavy

>>17031849
MSFT has me feeling better than morning sex

>>17031856
I usually don't stay in an options trade for longer than a day or two.

>>17031874
I need to do this more. I stay in too long and get greedy and either am slaughtered by decay or market changing.

Ive priced in the virus

Its not priced in

What will happen is dark

Does anyone really think WHO DOESN’T declare global emergency tomorrow? Coronavirus is now in every region in China, just appeared in India, is spreading fast, much more than SARS in 1/5 the time, while most will survive it’s still an epidemic. I just don’t see the WHO erring on the side of caution now, after the head of WHO last week brushed it off as being nothing...

>>17031847
Bought it at 3.2, this is just the beginning

We're gonna be green today lads?

The Chinese economy is FUCKED. This time FOR REAL.

>>17031788
Virgin day trader incels VS. Chad Corona and his Corona Chan

M-m-m-MAGA
Little bit American Psycho
Did someone say
Don’t drink her potions
Corona Chan!
No!
Noo!
M-m-m-m-MAGA
Little bit American Psycho
Wherever she might go
Gorgeous but bat soup tasty
Little bit American Psycho
Just like she
Tellin’ me
I’m incel insane
Just a little bit American Psycho
Oh I’m not going crazy
She’s sweet but a bat soup disease cycle

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/01/29/business/29reuters-usa-stocks-volatility.html

Huge sell off for February, get your money in now

>>17031895
Days green in next thirty trade daya a few maybe....

>>17031893
I thought the announcement was today? If they do I wager the market slumps HARD. I'm hedged into some PMs but I noticed looking back at prior at other collapses pms slump with the market at first only to rise later. So dunno really whats safe short of er, shorts.

>>17031893
Based on my knowledge and experience, I don’t think it’ll have the effect that the bears in this thread think it will. I guess we’ll see in the weeks ahead.

>>17031893
did they declare emergency during SARS?
if so, at what international infected count did they declare?

>>17031927
List it

Ill debunk whatever ideas you have so you can properly hedge

>>17031929
WHo is a joke
Doesnt matter ehat they do

OH MY GOD IS OVER

DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPF!!!!!

>>17031959
Bobo begone

Do not jinx /smg/

Take your bad mojo away

>>17031937
Honestly I’ve talked about it a lot in the past week and I’m burned out lol. I’m comfortable with my positions but I wish you luck.

>>17031893
Of course they will. The WHO should have declared an emergency a week ago, but their handlers need some time to safely offload their stocks and buy puts for a predictable date.

>>17031862
>He fell for the bear trap for the second time on the same stock despite someone telling him it was a trap both times.

>>17031915
In english doc?

>>17031849
>>17031872
Just sold my MSFT calls
Its great to see +100% somewhere

>>17031982
>burned out lol
NGMI
You need a vacation asap

>>17031988
Trippers never change their ways fly close to the sun and crash back to reality

>>17031990
We trending red for a while

>>17031895
no green. only pain

>>17031893
>india
welp it's over. those poos are going to breed it real good. they'll get sick and instead of going to a poo doctor they'll go bathe in a river filled with corpses and filth and then rinse off with cow shit.

how does someone with a long time horizon hedge against a huge downturn? bond yields are shit and I'm already have some PMs. Do I just hodl and forget about it? or do I take my money out of the markets and hold cash?

>>17032039
SDS
Inverse ETFs
Puts on everything

“The reason for caution is that declaring a global public health emergency can unnecessarily affect trade and tourism and imply that a country cannot control the disease on its own. But given the Chinese response of quarantining 41 million people in 13 cities, this hardly seems like a consideration here.” It all depends on if the team at WHO has decided to go bear or bull. Hard to tell.

WHOEVER DOUBTED INO SHOULD FEEL BAD

>>17032039
sell calls
buy KNG
buy GLD and sell calls on it
buy bond funds (TLT, etc.)

Is V going to defy the market? Will it reach 210 by tomorrow?

Find out next time on "IT'S HAPPENING!"

Also anybody going to make a play on APT or LAKE?

>>17031893
I mean it's pretty obvious that China are lying their fucking asses off about the extent of the virus. So everyone should declare emergency and lock down China completely while trying to solve the issue in the rest of the world first, fuck those chinks.

It's time

>>17032057
>WHO to Consider Global Emergency Declaration (11:15 a.m. New York time)
>1 hour before the open
they're going full bear

Ring-a-ding-ding, baby. We are open.

>everything I want to go up is going down
>everything I want to go down is going up

It's all so tiresome.

when do I buy ontx

>>17032096
literally who?

>>17032117
Now and forever

>>17032125
you didn't buy any more TSLA puts did you?

>>17032107
>SAVA tumbling like I knew it would
Feels fucking great

Holy fuck they are puuuuumping indexes

>>17031788
>posting DF

Don't remind me.

In other news, nice WKHS dip today.

>>17032117
Never hopefully. Its a penny stock that is in the red every single day.

>>17032145
uh not mine
>>17032137
its down like 2.3%

>>17032137
>SAVA
an alzheimer's cure won't matter when all the 60+ people in the world die from batflu

>>17032149
DF is up big yesterday
if you didn't buy under 15c, (or worse, if you sold under 15c) it's your fault

>>17032162
And it will continue to drop

Okay, profit target on the NQ. Time to dump it l-lads

>>17032145
adamantium support?

I've lost $10k in 2020.

How do I make my money back? I have $40k left.

Gay men are going to mutate coronavirus into an unstoppable force. Excerpt taken from a book on the AIDS epidemic:

Berkowitz recalls an early AIDS activist named Michael Callen. Though only in his late 20s at the time, Callen had had more diseases than an entire platoon of Army soldiers. Berkowitz writes in Callen's voice:

I estimate I've had approximately 3,000 men up my butt ... I estimate that I went to the baths at least once a week, sometimes twice, and that each time I went I had a minimum of four patners ... Then of course there was the MineShaft; the orgies; the 55th Street Playhouse; the International Stud backroom ...


Let me present my own history of STDs. From 1973, when I came out, to 1975, I only got mononucloeosis and non-specific urethritis, or NSU. In 1975, I got my first case of gonorrhea. Not bad, I thought. I'd had maybe 200 different partners, and I'd only gotten the clap twice. But then, moving from Boston to New York City, it all began to snowball.


First came hepatitis A in '76 and more gonorrhea and NSU. In 1977, I was diagnosed with amebiasis, an intestinal parasite, hepatitis B, more gonorrhea, and NSU. In 1978, more amebiasis and my first case of shigella, and of course, more gonorrhea. Then in 1979, hepatitis yet a third time, this time non-A, non-B, more intestinal parasites, adding giardia this time, and an anal fissure as well as my first case of syphilis ... By 1981, I got some combination of STDs each and every time I had sex ...


At age twenty-seven I've had: gonorrhea, syphillis, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, and hepatitis non-A, non-B; intestinal parasites including amebiasis, e. historicia, shigella, giardia; herpes simplex types one and two; venereal warts, mononucleosis, cytomegalovirus, and now cryptosporodiosis, for which there is no known cure.
Crypto-what-siosis? Berkowitz helpfully informs us that cryptosporodiosis was a parasite "previously found only in livestock."

>>17032177
VIX calls

>>17032177
>I've lost $10k in 2020.
How?

>Give some money to OGI and other weed stocks
>They just continue dropping since nobody wants to deal with them, even if they are profitable
I fell for the memes.
>>17032177
40k im AMZN Calls

Did you really think the coronavirus spook was over?

>>17032186
Shorting Tesla

>>17032180
what a bigot
stop posting these things, you just hate their love

I've got 3/20 175 MSFT calls. Should I sell before virus news or keep holding? I'm inclined to keep holding but I'm already up over 300%

>>17032201
>Shorting all time highs
You deserve it, time to move on

anyone have the calendar of the earnings announcements?

>>17032177
If I wanted to make a quick stack, I'd grab some TSLA puts today while the getting is good.

What do you think of Amazon earnings today? Looking at the companies that work with Amazon there was quite some growth this quarter apparently, but Amazon itself could fall short of expectations.

>>17032227
>Lost 10k shorting Tesla
>Baggie suggests shorting it again
Lmao, savage

>>17032207
Cases of HIV have been increasing in the US. They are going to have lots of unprotected buttsecks and kill us all when corona mutates in their butthole. Short rainbow loving corps:

It was extraordinary research: clear, simple, and the first of its kind. Sonnabend showed that the immune system of an entire community, the gay community, was under severe stress because of constant attack by syphilis gonorrhea, chlamydia, and other STDs. He showed that these diseases were wearing down an entire group's protection against infection.

Sonnabend published his results in the Lancet in early 1982. The last sentence in his piece said that promiscuity was suppressing the immune system. Just before the article came out, he turned to one of his patients and told him: "If you don't stop fucking around, you'll die." Sonnabend told him that he had almost no T-4 cells left. He was dangerously immunosuppressed. Sonnabend said that he had the same blood parameters as his patients who came down with Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia and Kaposi's sarcoma.

>>17032180
>previously found only in livestock.
This is normal human sexuality, bigot
>>17032201
We warned you and now you lost a good TSLA buying opportunity as well. Take the loss in stride and very carefully think about your next position. The worse thing you can do is chase the money you have lost.

>>17032227
At this point I really hope you're trolling. You have lost so much on tsla puts, yet you continue to advocate for them. I agree its growth is unsustainable but jesus fucking christ how are you THIS fucking retarded?

Holy shit tesla

Will amazon beat earnings

>>17032263
I just got one of the $610 puts that expire tomorrow. There's no way this stays above $600. Easiest way to turn $200 of smart money into a yang.

>>17031847

Broke 3.65 resistance

The floodgates are open

>>17032282
I think they will be right on track actually. But not beat them.
Should give some nice Call money still.

>>17032177

Put that 40k into REFR under 4 bud.

>>17032284
Top kek, but put some real money into it. You spent 30k on a bathroom, surely your trading account has a few thousand in it.

>>17032297
you bought calls today?

>>17032322
Yesterday while AMZN was at its lowest
Could sell now and make a profit

Cramer is bullying the HHS secretary right now kek.

How do I invest in Goldbelly? I mean look at this fucking place https://www.goldbelly.com/ it's like mail order food porn. With American's being the fat asses they are surely this has got to be a great investment.

>>17032342
lardlords aren't the same people who make use of food delivery services. they aren't shy of driving and they aren't shy of eating at mickey d's.

This virus is really screwing me. I hate the Chinese. Fuck Trump too.

>>17032342
Everything on there is so expensive wtf? $109 for a fucking muffalato?

V is the play. It’s going to beat earnings. Get in Chads

>>17032369
Fuck I already allocated my smart money to do the desperate out of the money short term puts during upward movement method.

>>17032342
>OH GOD, I THINK IM GOING TO SPEND $100 ON SOME PIECE OF SHIT FASTFOOD I WILL ENJOY FOR ALL OF FIVE MINUTES

Fucking consumers. Thanks for simulating the economy at least.

I'm fully in the red except MRNA for today so far. Fugg.

>>17032378
Baggie after the MSFT gains we shared, then you had to throw a curveball like this. V is still in the dip or dipping yet, if you change your mind.

I sold my AMZN for MSFT yesterday, profited a nice 2%, should i buy back AMZN today?

>>17032411
Buy V or V calls.

>>17032394
ADXS and NET are the only greens for me.

>>17032400
All of my trading capital is tied up in TSLA and USO, even the smart money.

>>17032369
why did it dip in the first place? haven't been paying attention to it

>Buy ONTX
>Really just a few shares
>They drop so much over the last month that they pretty much half any profits I have
Selling them at .33. I joined an opportunity to make money, not a suicide cult.
Nothing has happened with them, they dont even do press releases or anything.

What a let down.

all the big stock market gurus are betting their genius bucks on oil and against electric cyberturcks... my cute wife Greta would be so sad if she saw such an evil, capitalistic thing

>>17032417
Why

Should we be trading XLK? I mean I kinda think it's a bad idea to trade your technology. Maybe just dollar cost average into it and hold onto this etf. I mean technology isn't something you should be trading.

>>17032439
Gonna moon when results are out soon. You fucked up

I set a trailing stop sell order for TSLA at 2%. I bought 7 shares at $554.
I could have bought more but I'm just going to be satisfied with what I got.

>>17032433
Between Corona-Chan, WHO reporting and so smart money could get in for definite profit at the usual time. It’s time to get in and ride the gains of Chad V. Earnings beat AM

>>17032039
Possibly consider certain baskets of emerging market debt. Some countries are time bombs so it is a gamble. I’m modestly in some PCY which I feel is an acceptable risk.

>>17032423
I can't believe you didn't wait until at least $650 like it did in pre market. Last earnings it moved 17.66% in one day.

How much is the total value of your investment account? You only post the meme positions but surely you must have some real money that you haven't lost yet.
>>17032439
My hands get sweaty just looking at the historic chart. If anyone manages to make money off ONTX, good for them.

>>17032442
Going to beat earnings. Ride the breakout

>>17031788
any good options calculators out there? I want to buy 2 short term puts and 1 long term call of the same stock and when the stock is down I want the 2 option strategy to be up, and when the stock is up I want the 2 option strategy to be down

I want to also do this inversely

>>17032454
Consider not selling all of it and keeping a few shares to hold long term.

SOXL won't stop bleeding. Might drop it.

>>17032137
>>17032167
>entire market is feeling the untimely situation in China
> durr I called it
Dumb nigger. I hope you don't get in before it moons again.

>>17032467
I honestly couldn't tell you I just throw my real investment statements in the garbage.

SNSSAnon why did I listen to you about SALT?

>>17032439
Understandable, but they do have the China IND filing and a conference in Feb so news will be coming. If you got in high I cant say I blame you though. I'm in pretty low so I've still made like 10% even where it is now

>>17032510
You got pumped and dumped.

/smg/ I've lost $650,000 gambling on stupid shit over the past few months and I'm down to $180,000 left.

what do I do help am I going to let myself go broke

*clink*
*flick* *flick*

>>17032209
Take your profit.

>>17032539
Market buy SNSS with all of it.

>>17032481
pls respond

>>17032513
You don't even manage your own investment but fuck around with meme options instead?
>>17032539
>/ I've lost $650,000 gambling on stupid shit over the past few months and I'm down to $180,000 left.
What were your trades?

>>17032494
true. some crazy bastards are projecting 1000 after all

>>17032519
I dunno, I didn't say anyone else should buy it, I just said why I was.

>>17032539
On the bright side, you can deduct those capital losses from your gross income for the next 216 years

>>17032209
Dont get greedy nigga take it and run. Get back in after the announcment if you must.

>>17032394
>>17032519
>said he was going to buy SAVA and GALT so we would both be in it together
>buys SOXL and SALT at the top before dumping
He deserves it for betraying a friend. Never listen to trips.

>>17032519
Evermore Global Advisors just bought 5.8 million shares of SALT and filed their 13G today tho so maybe wait out this dip. https://newsfilter.io/a/291300dacaa88e664fe96f3e98e0001e

>>17032439
im down 5% on ONTX...was planning on holding through march so whatever

>>17032591
I have SAVA and GALT as well, anon. Getting real tired of GALT slowly going down down down.

>>17032566
>What were your trades?
A lot of things, generally too much betting on market direction or too much exposure to earnings. Today's $FB and yesterday's $SBUX fucked me quite a bit too. My most common plays were just trades that were far far too large on something like NDX/SPY.

>>17032570
I realized that a bit ago, which is cool, if I ever make money again. I guess I have to some day.

>>17032557
Your name leads me to not trust you, Anonymous

>>17032567
>some crazy bastards are projecting 1000 after all
I'm one of them. I think there's a real possibility of it reaching $1000 by end of year.

>>17032566
>You don't even manage your own investment but fuck around with meme options instead?
Yes.

>>17032607
No, Baggie is right. You should buy a bunch of SNSS.

>>17032597
SNSS-kun what does that mean? I feel like a wanna buy a few more shares

OH NO NO NO... AHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meKTtgOJql0

>>17032481
>>17032559
pls respond

>>17032368
So easy to make a bitching muffolatta anyway for <$5.

>>17032641
Do some math ya self, exercise ya brain is probs good for ya

this was a lot more fun when I was consistently making $

now I lose 2k/day like clockwork

I keep seeing GALT talked about in these threads, should I buy za dip? What makes people talk about it?

>>17032510
Buy more. If you really want to hit it big, buy SOXX calls. You guys are like herding cats. It's simple buy when the price is low, sell when the price is high. Do you really think the semiconductor sector is just going to croak now?

>>17032603
Good luck ontx bro

>>17032636
The virus scare is making SALT dump. Evermore bought 8% of SALT because it's valuation is ludicrously low right now, unjustly, on that virus panic. I bought it a day too early it looks like but it's a good investment at anything under $5 easy.

>>17032639
>Daily Mail

>>17032659
kill yourself stupid bastard

>>17032671
Ty friend, just a quick question if you don't mind, if the doc yield is 1.9 does that mean they pay 1.9 x amount of shares owned per quarter?

>>17032662
Supposedly their research is going really well

>Only green thing is my Yang
Oh boi

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17032685
At least I can do math

>>17032709
you dont even know what youre talking about otherwise you never would have suggested it

now die via yourself idiot

>>17032618
Kek, I'm dying. You're such a based retard.
>>17032607
That's a nightmare situation. You should have had solid investments that formed most of your portfolio instead of risking everything trying to beat the market. 650k with a 7% return is $45,500 which would have been enough to live on. I think you should lower your exposure until you can trade profitably and you'll have enough money to get in at the bottom if there's another recession.

>>17032678
if beanie head, the most milquetoast duuuude on the internet is starting to panic. I think it's time to start panicking.

I'm going to keep buying SOXL no matter where it goes. Each drop just makes it a better bargain and makes me that much more money on the inevitable rebound.

>>17032692
doc yield? if you meant dividend. yield is Div rate, for salt =$0.08/shareprice(3.80)=2.1% div yield. Thats annually. i.e $20 for every $1000

>>17032170
Man look at that, switched to a short at the top of the pump and it dumped hard right after. Being a TAchad is truly the way to go

I still don't understand why LCI tutes are lending out shares to short sell for essentially free. They are enabling all the manipulation instead of allowing a genuine value of the company. Which would make them for more money.

>>17032744
checked and correct

My VXX calls are skyrocketing

APT here we go.

Be warned. Next post ending in 69 has the corona virus and will bring about the death and destruction of all SPY calls.

>>17032539

Don't think of it as a loss, think of it as a lesson that cost $650k. Now take that lesson to heart.

Just bought 225 more SALT to bring my average down a little.

The yield curve is about to invert again

>>17032790
Just bought 2 more for the same reason :)

TSLA lower low achieved. Next target $620 before we go to $600.

>down 2700 today

Getting very close to capitulation. another week of this and and I will lose all my 2019 gains.

>>17032818
That's why you lock them in... degenerate

The last time SOXL had a 25% dip, it skyrocketed like 70% up right after.

>>17032818
Hedge with mid feb VIX calls

If TSLA doesn't drop to $600 and USO doesn't get back abover $11 I will blow up my account tonight. It's been a pleasure shit posting and meming with you.

>SNSS is green in this sea of red.
Nice

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

holy shit KO inject these gains right into my veins!!!

>>17032818

Bought a small hedge of like 5percent of my portfolio of lake and apt. If they double I'm out if not im bagholding the coronavirus is to real

What the fuck did I miss? Why is everything red?

Is this it?
Are we in the Bear Age now?

>>17032859
baggie, come to the divfren side where even when the price goes down, you still get paid. options are a young mans game and you're an oldfag

>>17032721
>idiot
Do you always rely on idiots to sort out your sperg options strategies?

>>17032611
Based on what? Hope, greed and not being the biggest fool?

When is this crash supposed to come? I want to buy some nice lil' dividend stocks and just coast for the next 40 years.

>>17032833
buy and hold, i dont actively manage much
>>17032852
>options

no matter what I do they do the opposite, wont touch them

>>17032872
People are freaking out about Corona virus.

>>17032899
china needed some thinning out

>>17032890
I thought I would be humble and see if anybody else is playing the game at a high level. Turns out no. You're all pathetic.

Chainlink immigrant here. What the fuck is happening with Tesla?

>>17032903
your social credit score is dropping, comrade

>>17032907
I didn't buy.

>>17032733
>That's a nightmare situation. You should have had solid investments that formed most of your portfolio instead of risking everything trying to beat the market.
I know, anon. My life is a mess and I gamble and drink to try to cope with it. I'd be happy just to break even with it I suppose, I don't have anything I want to buy ever.

>>17032780
I already knew going into it it could happen, though. Just nothing else to try in life to give me a brief adrenaline rush except drugs.

>SOXL at 259?!

My oh my what a steal! Scoop up the cheapies frens. The next month will be turbulent, but only the strong will survive!

V -
Earning numbers are going to be easy to beat
Financials doing good this season overall
Investor conference on the 28th was bullish per the charts
If we get a raise on guidance will be green green green

>>17032922
not time yet, its got another week of beatings to take at least

>>17032907
Awesome finances; beat expectations

>>17032905
>figure out my shit for me
>anyone else playing the game at a high level
>ur all pathetic
>high level?

>>17032882
So what do I do? Just buy dow 30 components, and say shit like fuck the dow is down another 100 points?

>>17032978
Well that's the most adorable thing I've seen all day.

>GALT just hit a 52 week low
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

GALT just hit a 52 week low. Someone get Pendy some god damn heroin

>>17032899
oh... I thought there was a specific catalyst since everything tanked at the same time, not just a general "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE" thing.

I will say if predictive programming is a thing, this is extremely similar to Contagion. Some disease involving bats starts in China and infects the whole fucking world. Good movie, great soundtrack, y'all should watch it.

>>17032983
buy some of these, reinvest dividends. when stock goes up, say "based", when it goes down say "cheapies + fuck you pay me"

>>17032978
You are a child.

>>17033001
Could be a decent trade from 2.58, but with a tight stop loss obviously

>>17033014
You wish perv

>The time to buy the market amid the coronavirus scare is near, history shows
>https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/the-time-to-buy-the-market-amid-the-coronavirus-scare-is-near-history-shows.html
now's the time to buy anons

>>17032815
>>17032859
>Lower low
>On the daily chart
>He thinks TSLA will give up nearly 7% after beating earnings

It's already all over for you, just like it was the last two times.
>>17032920
Consider getting out of trading entirely, I don't think you are cut out for it unless you fix your personal issues and stop using it as a platform to gamble. You still have more money than nearly everyone here and if left untouched in an investment account, it should grow nicely over the next decade.

Don't chase bad money with good. Think about how you would feel if you lost your 180k. It's not worth risking it.

>>17032935
Bought some lottery calls, lets do it come on Visa!!!

>>17032894
>Based on what? Hope, greed and not being the biggest fool?
I don't have the energy to write any more blog posts on TSLA, I've been doing that here since it was at 190. We'll find out at the end of the year, think what you want until then or just do research on it and hear the bull case out.

>>17032603
>>17032668
We'll be fine.

>>17033048
Never do this

Sars spread after moderate symptoms
Fraction of china mobility

Update prior events with current variables

>>17033002
No, if anything the most recent catalysts for SALT that aren't tied to a pandemic have been good. Solid earnings that blew estimates out of the water, and new big tute investors. The only other negative one isn't exactly recent and it has to do with Climate bullshit in some of the countries they do business with where they had to change their fuel over to something that costs more but pollutes less.

>>17033087
down the exact same %, wouldn't be surprised if this goes below .3

no stop losses though, either it rebounds some day or i go down with the ship. it's what i'd deserve for getting memed

>GALT is worth less than REFR

LOL

>>17032843
I just added another 15% of my stack to my broker. Bought some at 259. Hopefully it dips more. Under 160 and I'll mortgage my house on SOXX calls

I'm short on Tesla now, l-let's dump it b-boys

>>17032872
>he didn't listen to us telling him the last week

>>17033013
So you buy next months dividend this month? Like since it's the 5th week of january we buy SPG?

When is the WHO announcement lads?

>Please and thank you.

>>17032539
Bruh.

Does this mean I should buy GALT

>>17033145
>needing a WHO announcement to know that china's fucked

>>17033145
10:30

>>17032935
Please post yalls V calls. I bought spy 2-4 week out slightly OTM calls right when virus news hit last week hoping for another ww3 nothingburger and now I'm hurting.

>>17032922
Good day, SOXL fren. I'm buying all the cheapies I can get. What we really need is this thing to drop to the floor so all the doubters can be wrung out. SOXL is a monster guaranteed to come roaring back. They'll start trickling in around 350-375. I never understand why people don't buy something as sure as semiconductors when the price is low. It's dumbfounding

>>17033179
What time-zone?

You can't mean pm?

>You fuckin with me a lil bit?

>>17033179
10:30 what time? PST? UTC?

>>17032696
>>17032872

>>17026183
kek

>>17032894
>>17033084
The thing about tesla is, first, Elon has vision. Hes not only in it for the money, he believes his product will make the world a better place. That's hopeful. Then look at the rest of the auto industry: what are they in it for, what's their vision? Working in tandem with oils companies to ruin Tesla... while hedging that bet with extremely mediocre alternatives? That's fear.
Vision + delivering a quality product and user experience + competitively priced? He's delivering the Apple car, at a competitive price point. Why would you bet against that?
I sold Mercedes for 3 years, the auto industry is grim and customers hate it. He's delivering something else entirely

Okay never mind ONTX is getting raped now what the fuck

>>17033214
>apple
>vision
>quality product
>user experience
>competitively priced
>apple
are you retarded?

>>17033248
Sitting.
On.
Cash.
In 2 weeks, anon.

>>17033199
>>17033209
The Emergency Committee on the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) under the International Health Regulations (IHR 2005) will be reconvened by the World Health Organization Director-General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on Thursday, 30 January.

The meeting is planned to start at 13:30 Geneva time.

>>17033249
nice arguments you have there

Hold strong APT boys we need a 7 bagger like h1n1

>>17033268
I'm trying bro but my palms are sweaty, I've been holding this fucker for a couple months now

>>17033280
It's okay anon, it's very unlikely the stock will be taken off the NYSE later this year, so you can hold forever

Some real retards here today.
>>17033165
WHO already declared it an emergency in China. They haven’t declared it a global emergency, or in any of the other Asian countries.
>>17033126
>worth is decided by share price
You really don’t know what market cap is?
GALT retards and REFR shills need to fuck off.
>>17033249
They’ve managed to dominate the American cellphone market for over a decade. They’re even killing it in countries where cheap huawei phones are widely available. Everyone’s trying to take market from Apple and yet the install base just keeps growing. So yes, they’ve priced well and managed to deliver a quality product with a satisfying user experience.

>>17033268
If it goes under .3 I'm gonna be sorely tempted to double down.

>>17033249
people have been saying this about AAPL for the last 8-10 years.

the products are quality, the ecosystem is second-to-none, their services are driving growth and its certainly competitively priced if customers are choosing apple over other products.

>>17033272
LINK FOR WHO CONFERENCE: youtube.com/watch?v=xakAMtwLxTc

>>17033273
>vision to shit out new phones year after year with no fundamental changes so consoooomer retards like you give them more money
>quality product designed to self destruct after 2 years so you need to buy another one
>user experience designed so you can't repair their phone due to anti-consumer practices which cause the phone to lock up if you replace any parts and they automatically wipe your data every time you give them half the cost of a new phone to repair it just to really fuck you in the ass
>competitively priced charging a 3000% mark up on cheap chinese trash.
yeah, you're a retard alright.

You guys always seem so fucking stressed out.
Why not just invest in shit you can let sit and make you money over the course of years?

>>17033249
Dude, I'm just telling you what I see. Tesla adds a lot of value to his customers lives. Unlike any other car company. And Trump loves him. So yeah, what's your rebuttal?

>>17033306
why are you so angry? where did the bad man touch you?

>>17033280
I understand this pain well, and while I don't have the kind of faith in ONTX that I do in SNSS, when Q4 2019 continuously shat on me with that stock, I held strong and kept buying more with the dips. Now I'm up thousands of dollars on it. What you have to do is enough thorough research of what they're making, what they've got and what they've got coming, as well as the market viability of those pipelines, and either choose to grit your teeth/buy more, or cut your losses and find something else.

Hats off to the TECL chads here. You guys have beat the shit out of the rest of the indexes. When we hit the bottom of the global chicken little pandemic I might pick a few shares up

Kobe for 3s

>>17033313
we don't wanna be waggies

>>17033313
People who do that don't come on anonymous imageboards to discuss it. After all, what's to discuss? They just dumped their money into something and walked away.

>>17033306
Someone saying that TSLA is like AAPL doesn't imply they are like them in every regard, you actual retard. Post short positions.

>>17033313
We are like the ghetto folk who does not want to work, but pull off that one heist that makes us all rich.

>>17031828
>> sell my silver
Big mistake, son.

>>17033350
>The sky is like grass. The colour is green and it blows in the wind.

>>17033345
>>17033354
Surem, but you guys always seem beyond stressed. I can't tell if it's rampant shitposting or not.
>>17033346
Discussions of the state of the market?

I'm done, it's been real closing my account. Farewell boyos and good luck to you all

>>17033313
Most of the people here have a sub 5 figure account. Even if they make 100% over 10 years, it's barely anything which is why they're willing to take on more risk for a greater chance of profit.
>>17033377
Take care, fren.

>>17033377
godspeed anon

>>17033375
>rampant shitposting
mostly

They just announced 50% fewer cases, along with one death I think. Right before the WHO thing. They will say it's a big nothingburger, but there will be a second number released later by the chinks

>>17033313
Shut up nino
>>17033306
Yet they print money. Both the stock and the company are doing damn well and you hate it.
>NO I DONT LIKE IT SO THE CONSOOMER IS WRONG
It must suck to live like that.

VARNEY, MY SHEKELS!

Does it make sense to liquidate my Roth IRA to cash (without withdrawing) and just hold cash for a while before getting back in?

>Why are the stocks in the technology sector in the US exploding, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Tesla?
It's because of the economic situation in Europe, a good portion of the capital, generated by the 0-interest-rates of ECB, flows across the Atlantic into the US stock market, because the markets in Europe are satisfied. That's why Tesla is going through the roof, right now, it's also the reason, they the Deutsche Bank stock could improve by 44% since Aug 2019 (because they're re-organizing their balance sheet, and are investing now first and foremost in the US, yet with EU money.)

Discuss.

>>17033377
Good for you, there’s many other ways to spend your time that can be much more rewarding.

Best of luck

>>17033377
Some people just weren't meant for investing. Good luck in your other endeavors anon.

>>17033408
There's lots of ways to make money off retards but pretending that they're actually selling a quality product at a reasonable price is delusional. Just because they have good advertising for delusional hipster retards doesn't make them good. And if you actually own an apple product rather than investing that money into the stock you should consider becoming an hero by corona.

>>17033396
I assume most people here are between the ages of 20 and 30. There's plenty of time for compounding to take plus.

>>17033249
BECKY regularly outperforms the market. The products are usually overpriced flashy nonsense, but normies will buy them like crazy. Its a good strategy. Sarah and Laura will always go to Starbucks and always buy iphones, the price going up 20% does not bother them.

I'm losing my ass here. Fucking TSLA is stealing all the market share and it's fucking the demand for crude oil. Some one fire missiles at the fucking saudis.

>>17033377
Get the market out of your head for a while then think it over. If you figure out what went wrong and want to take another shot, /smg/ will be here

where my /KO/ shareholders at?

>>17033457
If only someone warned you this exact thing was going to happen ahead of time so you knew not to do it...

DB short squeeze above $10 loading. Absolute confidence that my January 2021 $20 calls will be in the money this year.

>>17033377
When you come back..
1. Don't option gamble
2. Don't "invest" in penny garbage
3. Invest in big boys and just sit on it while shit posting here from time to time
Some people are just not meant for trading, it's that simple. But you can still get ahead of the herd by simply investing your wage instead of sitting on it in a bank with 0.000001% interest.

>>17033457
Stupid nigger

Can EU invest in US stocks? I have an eye on AAPL/MSFT.

Oh hey I just noticed ATBPF is up to 0.42 now.

>>17033481
Helllll yeaaaahhh
Wish I had bought more when it was dipping, but im never selling the ones I’ve got.
>>17033438
I hate to say “hurr durr you mad” but you sound really, REALLY mad. That’s not even what competitively priced means.
Like Munger said, the customer will often see something priced higher as being worth more, and tend towards that product.

Current trades, dump Tesla!

>>17033457
Let me guess, you fell for the US-Iran war meme, didn't you Anon?

>>17033404
Are you talking about the official numbers from communist china?
>communist china

The deaths jumped up 50 in 1 day.

It's spreading to other countries like crazy.

It's a literal bio-weapon.

I think the WHO announcement is going to be upping the caution.

Anons? What do (You)'s think?

Where my bobo squad at?

This whole CNBC segment is juicy as FUCK, hope it gets posted on YT later

>>17033522
I mean its cheaper to buy them at your home market during US market times, but the prices are shit when the US markets close.

You can trade through AMEX, ARCA, NYSE for some extra fee usually. Not much, like 10€?
Just look at your brokers market places.

>>17033557
Yang is letting me lose money with dignity today. At least one thing is green.

>>17032607
Good luck fren, the market is ruthless but you can always bounce back

>>17033538
>he likes having shitty products forced down his throat by normie retards
you own an apple phone, don't you? If you don't get pissed watching normies throw money down the drain on shitty products, thus supporting said shitty products instead of higher quality and innovative products, then you have to be some kind of retard.

>>17033446
Buddy, for the same reason no one on /biz/ talks about robo-advisory accounts, mutual funds, high-yield bonds or savings accounts.
Everything on /biz/ is high risk because that's the only shit interesting enough to shitpost about.

When you capitulate I buy your SOXL from you. When you FOMO, I sell SOXL to you. I provide a noble service. I care for you anons and I am here for you always.

>>17033559
was it coronachan?

WHY isn't fucking Marriott going down?
WHY ISN'T INTEL FILLING THE GAP?!!?

>>17033555
>WHO announcement
I really fucking hope some random lab tech rushes the stage and yells "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE"

I don't care if it's true or not, I just wanna watch the chaos

KO and MCD can only fail when the United States fails. If there wasn't more money to be made in other stocks and crypto short term, I would go all in.

>>17033612
So this general really is jsut a bunch of shitposting?

>>17033557
I'm unimpressed tbhfam. There does not appear to be a great deal of oomph on this red.

>>17033622
imagine the power being in a situation like that. all you need to do is short the market and then scream we're going to die and you can roll in the money all the way to prison.

>>17033641
>iz i 13q cp
Kys gay pedo

>>17033555
You know how the clickbait says that flu (influenza) kills 6,000+ americans last year?
That because the CDC actually does not know
>The cumulative burden of influenza is an estimate of the number of people who have been sick, seen a healthcare provider, been hospitalized, or died as a result of influenza since October 01, 2018. CDC does not know the exact number of people who have been sick and affected by influenza because influenza is not a reportable disease in most areas of the United States. However, these numbers are estimated using a mathematical model, based on observed rates of laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

tLDR: cdc doesnt know about how many flu deaths because its never reported. Its even worse in china since doctors are under pressure to not report deaths, and most deaths from coronoavirus (including MRE and SARS) are from comorbidity (secondary infections) that are not revealed to be coronavirus until AFTER post mordem. The rate is going up like mad because previous pneuomnia cases are re-classified coronoavirus weeks or even months after.

>>17033657
speaking of which, does anyone have that slightly memey website that's tracking all the cases and shit?

>>17033657
Short sellers always attempt to capitalize on disasters, Hurricane Andrews was the heydey for those in real estate and construction.

>>17033049
TSLA is totally fucked, these guys sitting with 6 million shares are all going to sell them at the bell. Just wait and watch your TSLA stock go back to $500.

>>17033692
How can you expect anyone to take you seriously at this point?

rise up

>>17033681
>previous pneuomnia cases are re-classified coronoavirus weeks or even months after
Shit really? Who's doing that? China wouldn't do that voluntarily.

But yeah I've assumed china has been misreporting a lot of these cases as "old age" or some such thing.

>>17033692
For your sake, I hope this is true

>>17032864
What do you think about MO? Why the fuck is it down so much.

>>17033681
This guy gets it, the pathophysiology of the virus isn't enough to really kill you on your own. The vast majority of the ICU cases (from my reading) are secondary to common comorbidities like chronic HTN, CHF, COPD, CKD/ESRD, etc etc.

>>17033746
probably cuz everyone is quitting smoking and juul sucks since they got rid of all their good flavours so no1 wants it which is besides the point when you own 30% of that business...

>>17033446
>There's plenty of time for compounding to take plus.
If they're planning on retiring at age 65 or have a stable high income job. I'd wager that a high percentage of posters here either have autism or are unemployed with few decent job prospects. They don't have money continuously coming in to invest with.

Some of us don't just want to be financially secure, we want out of the rat race and will risk our money to do it. Only a few of us will make it.

>>17033747
pathogenesis*

>>17033747
>>17033681
The question is how WHO is going to play it.

It's worse than most people realize but are WHO going to let people know that.

>>17033770
>It's worse than most people realize but are WHO going to let people know that.
No it isn't

>>17033746
Many reasons. Part of me wants to sell and buy back lower but... meh. The more I trade the worse I do.

>- Altria reported on Jan. 30 fourth-quarter net revenue, which excludes excise taxes, of $4.8 billion, below analysts’ estimates of $4.9 billion. Adjusted earnings per share of $1.02 were up 7.4% from the same quarter the previous year and in line with expectations.
>- On the same day, Altria recorded a $4.1 billion pre-tax charge related to its 2018 investment in Juul Labs. This takes the total write-down on the $12.8 billion investment to $8.6 billion.
>- Altria shares were down 5.2% to $47.50 each at 10:35 a.m. in New York.

>BRIEF-Altria CEO Says Hard To Predict What Is Going To Happen To E-Cig Category
>10:55 AM ET, 01/30/2020 - Reuters
>Jan 30 (Reuters) - Altria Group Inc:

>* ALTRIA GROUP INC CEO SAYS HEATSTICKS ARE NOW DISTRIBUTED ACROSS MORE THAN 500 RETAIL STORES IN ATLANTA AND RICHMOND COMBINED: CONF. CALL

>* ALTRIA GROUP CEO SAYS CO DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXPECT TO RECEIVE EQUITY EARNINGS CONTRIBUTIONS FROM JUUL OVER THE NEXT 3 YEARS: CONF. CALL

>* ALTRIA GROUP CFO SAYS ESTIMATES JUUL'S MARKET SHARE IN Q4 DECLINED SEQUENTIALLY TO 44% FROM 48%: CONF. CALL

>* ALTRIA GROUP CFO SAYS LATEST IMPAIRMENT BRINGS THE CURRENT VALUE OF ITS INVESTMENT IN JUUL TO $4.2 BILLION: CONF. CALL

>* ALTRIA GROUP INC CEO SAYS HARD TO PREDICT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO E-CIGARETTE CATEGORY: CONF. CALL

>* ALTRIA GROUP CEO SAYS EXPECTS TO SEE A CONTINUED SLOWDOWN OR MAYBE EVEN A DECLINE IN THE E-VAPOR CATEGORY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS

>* ALTRIA GROUP CEO EXPECTS GOVERNMENT DATA ON E-CIG YOUTH USE TO BE AVAILABLE BEFORE FDA’S DECISION ON JUUL’S MARKETING APPLICATION

>* ALTRIA GROUP CEO SAYS "THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE" JUUL COULD GET PULLED FROM THE MARKET BY FEDERAL LAW

>>17033692
> watch your TSLA stock go back to $500.
That prospect doesn't even scare me. Bears used to say it was going down to $10, then $180, $420, and they kept bringing it up while they lost their shirt. You're practically acknowledging that the long term correction is going to hold.

>>17033758
I have an undergrad in electrical engineering and haven't had a job in 4 years since I started trading full time. Fuck it, this is my life and I like it. And, yes, the 'tism makes it harder to go outside but that just makes me that much more successful at pushing numbers around in my brokers' databases

GOD DAMN IT THEY'RE BRINGING BACK THE HUMMER BUT MAKING IT ELECTRIC!!! FUCK WE NEED MORE 5 MILE PER GALLON GAS GUZZLERS ON THE ROAD GOD DAMN IT!!!!

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/hummer-electric-return-gmc-super-bowl-trailer-lebron-james/

>>17033801
juul is a great product but the fda is bent on killing it and they pulled all their good flavours that the market likes (millennials) from stores now they are getting stlhs or disposables.

>>17033555
>Jumped up 50 in 1 day
Again that is just Chinese number. They are now saying funeral service efficiency meed to be boosted, which should indicate far more number of death than 50 in a city with something like 14 million people in it during usual times.

Yesterday: MoviePass and HMNY officially filing for chapter 7 "oh fuck it's over sell everything" bankruptcy.

PFFFFT ahahahahaha thanks for all the cheap movies though

>>17033858
I always see gen z users vaping. If any liquid based e-cig succeeds whatever regulation is passed, it'll probably be Juul.

But there may be a real chance of the FDA banning liquid e-cigs. Hmmmmm what to do...

>>17033791
>>17033770
WHO is going to present a model (likely made by some guys at the CDC) that estimates likely cases and deaths based on what reports are available. Its like the CDC influenza burden estimates, but globally.

Then the media is gonna spin it into an end of the world scenario because CBS, CMCSA, VIAB and NWSA had terrible earnings last quarter and are ACHING for bad news to report.

>>17033404
>They just announced 50% fewer cases, along with one death I think. Right before the WHO thing. They will say it's a big nothingburger, but there will be a second number released later by the chinks
Thag was only the number for half a day, I believe?

Gay Shell earning decided to take down the gas stations further

GO FUCKING APT YOU SON OF A BITCH GO GO. TECHNICALS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT.

>>17033901
mmm those delicious apt puts getting real cheap

OH FUCK CORONACHAN

>>17033898
oof yeah RDS got nuked
...hard to say if shit's cheap enough yet
Any chance for even cheapier cheapies after earnings?

>>17033801
Yes they made a shit investment with juul. But this was already known. It's not like they just lost 4.8 billion. They already overpaid. So why is everyone losing their minds over this? IQOS seems to be doing well and the core business is trucking along as planned.

>Breaking - CDC announces first U.S. case of human to human coronavirus transmission

>>17033932
not sure how much profit MO gets from iQos, I think they're just distributors or something and it's PM's product

>>17033938
Fuckkkkkkk it's too late for the easy money plays and tooooo late to sell most of this shit.

>>17032163
I sold my DF at 11 cents because I didn't want anything more to do with it.

>>17033938
OMG sell everything especially TSLA.

This market is about to crash with no survivors, my VIX calls are going to the moon

10Y is fucking plummeting, under 1.54 now

The famous 3m10y is inverting again bigly

>>17032163
weird obsession with cows...

>>17033746
they had to write down half of their investment in JUUL ($4.1 billion) as a loss based on regulations and the current valuation. most see this as bad (like it was with KHC). I actually see this as a future tax benefit. JUUL isn't going anywhere and the brand is more and more popular. The age increase will likely prevent the government from limiting the flavors = kids still vaping mango juul pods for the gram.

if it stays down below 50, i'm buying next week. Its still above my cost basis but i'll continue to buy this dividend grower

>>17033938
>oh you have corona virus?
>nah im not going to go hang out at Uncle Ching's for a couple weeks, I'll still live with you

>>17033313
I do this, like another anon said nothing really to discuss. I just lurk because y'all are funny, and for the happenings

>>17034063
>>17034063
>>17034063

New

>>17033927
tommrow, either Xom goes up and CVX goes down, or CVX goes up and XOM goes down, or they both go down.. or they both go up
Regardless, Im going to forget about it and buy lots of NATH

>>17034075
Good luck with the ghosties!

>>17034013
>The age increase will likely prevent the government from limiting the flavors = kids still vaping mango juul pods for the gram.
Bruh its kitchen line workers and manufacturers and blue collar workers that vape too and they killed that customer base. They are switching to off brands like stlth and like 3 other brands i cant even name.

>>17034167
Its actually too bad because these retards are gonna end up getting some vitamine e pods eventually since the flavour is so goodddd cuz the fda banned the good flaves and then juul will continue to be looked down upon.