/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16892432
Buying some Mexican tiddies today.

>>16892432
Add silvergoldbull.ca for leafs

>>16892448
Nice anon

>>16892472
Saved! thanks

>>16892472

>>16892432
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thats better

>>16892829
Thanks for the heads up anon I didn't even notice the links were gone.

>>16892757
nice, does this scrapes the websites?

>>16892863
I wish. Can't figure out a way for excel to grab the prices. I just have to grab all the prices as quick as possible so spot price doesn't change too much and I can get a reasonable comparison of the sites. If anyone can enlighten me on where to learn webscraping I'm all ears.

>>16892432
Just bought a couple 10oz stackable shiny rocks today. Feels good man.

Just mailed in a personal check for a one kilo silver bar. I should have it in less than two weeks.

idiots in this thread missed out on another up day in stocks

>>16893138
Man I wanted to buy another kilo but new monitor is coming out next month and I need a little money for that.

Come to BitMEX, the land of opportunity.(×100 cryptocurrency Exchange)
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>>16893148
Im ok with that. Buying silver at the bottom, you go ahead and buy stocks at the top.

>>16893053
i started dabbling with python some weeks ago, i think having a script getting the prices then autoupdating the excel should be fairly easy to implement. Gonna look into google sheets too since i know you can write scripts there too.

>>16892757
Free shipping from silver gold bull and I only buy 100oz plus, plus I have had 0 issues. They also include the tubes for the coins or plastic seal the 10oz bars.

>>16892448
based af

>>16892432
how much do you think itll be worth in a few years?

>>16893691
With my luck...$11.
Seriously you niggers should pay me not to buy silver.

>>16893445
>Free shipping from silver gold bull
the majority of sites have free shipping over a certain threshold. 100 oz would definitely put you over.
Do what you like, I used to buy from them but intend to branch out

>>16893691
$50

>>16893187
scraping is cancer due to JS/html bloat and webpages that get updated too frequently

>>16892757
what am I looking at? is this a good thing?

>>16892432
Are there any places to get stack silver for less than 9% premium? Say I'm not looking at moving more than a few ounces per trade.

>>16893148
>Stocks are up today
So are metals retard, maybe not as much but the fact that there’s market separation is a very bullish sign for metals. They are also separating from the dollar and becoming more independent.

>>16893148
Keep shilling stocks at the record ATH, that only allow you to cash out in fiat, we will buy metals at the very bottom

>>16892757
>>16894079
it appears only for select vendors and at bulk prices. But part of the over spot amount is fee from mints and it has been going up.

>>16892432
Redpill me on constitutional silver. My uncle gave me a bunch of old coins from different countries years ago. I just looked through them and found and found a couple 90% quarters and some old fractional Canadian coins as well. Should I mix it up and add some more constitutional or stick with stacking eagles and bars?

Redpill me on 100oz bars are they hard to move?

>>16895216
Just trade them.

>>16895187
easily divisible
would be great in a financial doomsday
are trusted because hard to fake/gov mint
not pure, sells for less than .999 when selling because of extraction/smelting cost of separating the metals.
overall they are good to have, one should diversify ones silver holdings comprised of rounds, coins, bars and 90% silver

>>16895306
hey schiff a friend of mine is telling me that gold and silver isn't going to be important when a boogaloo happens and is just telling me to be a prepper instead, what do you think?

>>16895323
couldn't hurt to have some extra water, food and guns
there won't be a doomsday in the sense of anarchy doomsday with food and water being the most valuable things. Merely a financial doomsday with people losing a shit ton of money and jumping off buildings. Prepping for some type of nuclear warfare zombie apocalypse type shit and setting up a bunker with 20+ years of food and water is fucking retarded. And even if something like that did happen, which it wont, gold and silver would still be important, because people recognize that the doomsday wouldnt last forever, so those with an surplus of food guns and ammo would trade supplies for gold and silver, because it would be much more valuable down the line.

no doomsday just financial doomsday
>>16894079
just people being fucked for overcharged premiums, see they make the premiums so high on purpose, to dissuade buyers from buying

>>16892432
Texmetals.com
Free shipping, no minimum

>>16893765
I'll pay to buy silver. I could get so much more per month at 11oz.

/sg/ is by far the most comfy thread on this board. Tonight my ASE rolls arrived, enough for 200 coins. I plan to start filling them up next week.

>>16895592
Nice link. Definitely buying from these guys next time, beats every other site I look at and free shipping on everything is great!

>>16893158
If you wait like 2 years it'll be like 30% cheaper

>>16895702
Glad to see that you enjoy it anon

where you can you sell when you need money. the bank?

>>16895432
How many people do you think will kill themselves in the next currency crisis? I can't wait!!!

>>16895432
>trade for gold or silver
more like murder you for it

>>16896858
It shouldn't be that hard to trade if you have guns and have a network of people with guns, if you don't then yes bury your PMs and forget about them.

Anons I forgot the most important part!

Do anyone of you know of a high quality Precious Metals Test kit and where to buy it?
Can't have you guys buying fake plated silver.

Check out these random coins I found today. They look pretty.

>>16893148
How's that repo market doin?

I inherited a small family silver stash that's been in the family for three generations, all coinage 1870s to 1930s. Not a huge amount, but it's interesting to think that if they had saved the face value in fiat instead of silver it would only be about $110 bucks. Glad life has been kind enough to my family for so long it never got liquidated out of need or greed. Started stacking current year eagles to add to it, hopefully it will bring a little pleasure to someone 100 years down the line as well.

>>16897227
I got a small stash of mercury dimes my dad saved after the roosevelt dimes took over. Gives them sentimental value and I'll probably never part with them but pass them down as family history.

>>16897141
This from a coin shop? I like the republic of Armenia coin you got there.

>>16897472
Yes, they always weird new stuff. Back side is pic related.

>>16893053
python 3 + selenium will do the job.
as websites became more and more dynamic it is often more easy to automate a browser to extract content. reverse engineering all the calls can be difficult.

>>16894055
selenium webdriver.

>>16896426
But I kinda want to be able to see stuff now not 2 years from now.

>>16897647
Sweet ark anon. Why did you bring the niggers onboard?

>>16898889
oh, a retard

>>16899589
The minotaurs were late.

>>16898889
or phantomJS desu
>>16900219
you are the retard here

10th page save

>>16901777
Saved those trips

>>16901777
Checked

>>16901777
czequed

>>16900711
why dont you show us all your projects using selenium, oh wait you dont have any

best place to buy physical silver for ausfags

Why did they delete the other silver thread? Is two too many? Are we crowding out the 150 crypto threads?

>>16902384
Because they probably dropped too many red pills about jews, this place is infested with tranny jewish shills. That's why they let degenerate horse fucking and tranny threads stay up as long as possible while anything pro white or pro european gets pruned quickly.

>>16902384
PM boards are the only reason to come to /biz/. Our numbers are growing, people are waking up.

>the 150 year silver ponzi scam

>>16902699
That looks primed and ready for the next ATH anon. This is the bottom, get in or stay poor!

>>16893098
Nice purchase, bought 20 of them last month.

>>16902699
massice cup and handle about to start

0,74% in 5 years

silverfaggots

>>16903157
Don’t forget they have to sell below spot price so they are basically trapped in an eternal hodle or until society collapses

>>16902250
>expecting someone to give out his work for free
i have nothing to prove to you, get off this fucking board you useless communist piece of shit

>>16903380
these silver cucks are not even smart enough to play silver price with ETF/futures/options. They actually buy physical metal lmao fucking cave men

>>16903399
right, nothing got it

>>16903157
>>16903380
>>16903904
Hello samefag! Don't forget to switch up your VPN this time!

>>16902699
They can easily continue that for another 100 years.

>>16902886
20 ten ounce bars?

>>16904088
Doubtful.

would 220 oz be enough to make it?
i can probably stack another 100 oz a year at current prices

>>16904307
Yea you will do well with that amount. The consensus here is get as much as possible.

>>16904284
cope

>>16904338
You really think they can continue this fiat ponzi for another century? You're the one who's on copium fren, I bet you're in massive amounts of debt.

Scientists in sweden have just made gold from plastic, google it.

>>16904371
Not finding anything...

>>16904371
>This gold has the material properties of a plastic
It's plastic... Learn some reading comprehension anon

>>16904371
>They can make gold
>Millions of dollars in research, technology and professional assistance to create tiny pebble sized fake metal with latex base that looks like 18k gold but lacks weight and every single other property that real gold has on a microscopic scale.
Man has been trying to artificially create gold for a millenia. It's impossible and always will be impossible to create a fundamental element. Put a plastic bag over your head and count to a thousand, please.

>>16904479
Is this how the new gold standard will be rolled out?

>>16892448
A man of taste. I have the kg libertad sitting on my desk

>>16904555
Kilogram coins are stupid...

What % do you think silver will go up when the stock market shits the bed?

>>16904658
It won't matter if the dollar is worth less than dogshit.

>>16904703
I thought that was the whole point of metals, to hedge against the dollar being shit.

>>16904658
>>16904750
Hard to tell, fraud is at an all time high and silver and gold have been manipulated since forever because the goyim must not know it's real value. I look at gold and silver like a real savings account that is inflation proof. I feel they keep the price down to purposely make it look like unvaluable junk, when it's exactly the opposite. Banks, FED and gov need to burn before gold and silver are actually considered valuable again. Who knows how long that will take. But I don't give a shit anymore. There's nothing really worth spending money on anymore because quality on everything has shit the bed and will continue to do so. I'll just keep buying and stacking PMs till I die and tell my kids about all of the lies and keep the truth party rolling. Justice has to come sooner or later.

>>16904862
This.
But do you buy any stocks?

>>16892432
I just got more silver bars delivered and I feel like I got deceived by Monument Metals. I thought I was getting some matte-like finish (pic related), but instead I got the shiny JM Bullion bars.. Anybody know if theyre different or am I just being an autist?

>>16904990
Vs this one. While I like the serialized numbers I prefer the matte finish since it looks way cleaner in my opinion

>>16904990
Probably autistic, I've never seen a properly polished bar that wasnt shiny
But I've also never bought bars only smelted them from scrap and sold them

>>16904990
>>16904999
If you were buying for the matte finish I'd definitely complain to them and see if they can make it right if you send them back for a swap. Any reasonable business would correct something like that.

>>16904990
Did you read the description? Sometimes it says "design may vary" in a small font. Give me a link.

>>16905039
This too.

>>16904750
>I thought that was the whole point of metals, to hedge against the dollar being shit.
it is. so why would value metals against the dollar?

>>16905039
Admittedly I didnt read the description, but Monument Metals doesnt have that small disclosure.

>>16905194
Because USD is ultimately the only thing that matters.

I was starting to get into the collection of silver bars a while back, getting back into it again, don't have much but want to continue to build.

>>16904631
You're stupid

Why do hand poured bars sell for higher premiums than say 100oz rcm bars. To me they looks like shit pic related.what am I missing?

>>16905521
Engelhard was one of the top PM producers in the world and shut down in the early 2000's. That is most likely why their bars carry a premium. Also many people like the authentic look of hand pours.

>>16904923
I've bought a small amount of mining stocks. Will be getting more, don't see how they can do down any further than they already have. I need to do more research cause I think some of these bigger well known companies have been compromised also and will produce a lot less useful material than they say they can.

>>16905521
Hand pouring can be a more labor intensive and requires skilled hands instead of a machine produced product. The results are also unique to each bar which satisfies some people's autism. Stay away unless you get a good deal on them or don't give a shit about the premium. Buy what you like.

>>16905521
Thats a engelhard you mong
those always carry a premium

also hand poured bars a fugging sexy in person

have some junk and a few eagles. looking to hoard for 2020. any pills on mints vs bars vs rounds? should i be mixing? getting low spot deals? sticking with govt mints? USA btw.

>>16905923
I'd bulk buy 1oz rounds from either sovereign mints or popular non-govt mints. It'd be harder to get counterfeit shit that way since the rounds are small and the round dimensions from popular mints are available online which helps you spot fakes

>>16905923
Here's my strategy man, over 50% of your stack should just be gold/silver eagles. You honestly can't have too many of them. Then when it comes to bars, stick to 10oz gov issued like the Canadian silver bars or Brittania bars. Don't do wierd sized bars unless you just want to collect shit. Stick to that strategy until you have 1000oz of silver. Don't forget gold, you'll always be happy you've bought gold. Stay away from 100oz bars until you've surpassed 1000oz IMO. Set a goal to own your weight in silver. This should keep you occupied for a while because it takes time to accumulate. Don't worry about price too much, just don't overspend and make sure you have cash set aside already for emergencies and your bills are paid in advance. If the silver-gold ratio ever closes to 40:1 or better, swap out half your silver for gold. Gold is always the end goal, but thanks to crooks like JP Morgan, the silver price is suppressed and the ratio has gone into insanity levels, so you can take advantage of this.

>>16905239
Metals are meant to hold value against an inflating USD. That's their purpose.

>>16906055
>Don't do wierd sized bars unless you just want to collect shit.

I want some of those 20 oz Scottsdale Mint bars

>>16906151
I’ve thought of picking at least one of those up. They are sexy.

>>16905791
I meant stocks in general, not just related with PMs.
I also have some money allocated into stock etfs, although I now won't buy anymore etfs and instead will buy more PMs.

>>16906212
Dude the stock market is a fucking ticking time bomb in the hands of boomers. The poetry writes itself. You can get in short term knowing that they’re gonna pump it but the risk at this point is not worth any gains that may be had. I think at this point they’re trying to get the suckers to buy at the top before they cash out because they know their pensions are on the chopping block soon. I wouldn’t fall for any of the hype. I’m personally avoiding it like the plague and every other thing that’s in a bubble right now. I’m only 27 so I have time on my side. These old fucks don’t and will have to make a move soon with rising tensions.

>>16906285
>I’m only 27 so I have time on my side.
#MeToo
I'm putting everything into gold silver and gold from now on.

>>16906326
It’s my retirement and probably my only chance to not get stuck in the mile deep shit system we were born into. Millennials and Zoomers are gonna get fucked hard. At least I might be able to start a business and save some of the good ones and start a new civilization based on redpills.

>>16906285
>>16906351
So you're not holding stocks and probably not real estate. What is in your portfolio right now? Are you over 10% in metals?

>>16906151
You could hide at least 40 oz in your rectum with those

just buy gold. buying silver is like buying litecoin.

>>16907221
Gold is like less than 20% away from it's ATH while Silver still can 3x before it's at it's ATH.Silver is massively undervalued both in general and compared to Gold. Silver has much greater potential for gains.

>>16907057
Cash and metals with some mining stocks. Cant afford real estate ATM cause of boomers so I’ll wait till I can get a good price. Living at home in the garage rent free makes this possible, but my parents aren’t getting any younger and need more help with upkeep of the property. Sucks a little but beats paying rent if you have a good relationship with your parents. Plus they know what I’m doing and are all for it. I told my parents to buy silver back over a decade ago for $13 oz. Found out just the other day my dad bought over 2700 oz, LOL. Should’ve got gold too, oh well...

>>16907167
>interesting patina you have here

>>16907434

>>16906055
sounds good. will be looking for more silver eagles in the meantime while i set aside for some gold.

>>16904862
What kind of fraud is at all time highs?

>>16907651
Price manipulation.

>>16907221
Nah, silver has always been a way more popular as an investment than litecoin ever was. We just need an inflation scare and bam, 5-10x gains.

>>16907651
Literally everything. Everyone acts like they're something they're not. People lie to themselves about everything and pretend to care. Jews lie to the goyim. Gov lies to other govs. Shits out of control.

>>16907338
Same boat here on the real estate. But unfortunately not able to live with parents. Trust me, doing some chores while getting home cooked meals beats paying thousands for rent any day of the week.

The thing I love about silver is that's actually more usable than gold. At $20 an oz, you'll be able to buy and sell everyday items with it when the economic collapse happens. Even now I can leave silver coins as tips and give them as gifts to people. Much harder to do with gold.

>>16907796
>Even now I can leave silver coins as tips and give them as gifts to people
So now everyone knows you have stacks of silver coins.

>>16907791
I still help pay utilities and support myself 100% and have to cook for myself most of the time. I just don't have to pay for the roof above.

>>16907651
For example: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-06/subprime-auto-lender-checked-income-on-just-3-of-loans-in-bond

>>16907338
>cant afford realestate because of boomers
fucking tell me about it lease is up in 3 months and doing the should i buy math for the 4th time now.

>>16892432
fuck taxes and fuck jews

Gentlemen, I present to you, the BEER STANDARD:

So I was reading Thrift by Samuel Smiles. In it he mentions the wages of different jobs in 1875 England, in pounds and shillings. I was curious how much gold and silver that was. From some quick research, it looks like a shilling contained about 1/6 ozt of pure silver, and a gold sovereign 1 pound coin contained less than 1/4 ozt of pure gold (.2354 ozt if we're being picky).

However, you can't directly compare a job from back then to one today, so I looked to see if there was something I could compare with. Something people want about as much today as they did back then, that hasn't changed much in 145 years, like food, or in this case, beer. Smiles notes that 2 pence would buy you one pint of beer at a pub (and laments that people would be better off putting that money in savings). There were 12 pence to a shilling and 20 shillings to a pound; so in other words:

If you went to a pub in 1875 England and spent:
- 4 sovereigns (.9416 ozt gold), you could buy 480 pints of beer.
- 6 shillings (~1 ozt silver), you could buy 36 pints of beer.

Fast forward to 2020 America. According to pintprice.com, the average price for a pint of beer in the US is $4. However, the British pints used above are 20% larger than US pints, so we will say $4.80 for the same amount of beer. Based off of the current spot price of $1553.40/ozt of gold and $18/ozt of silver, if you were to sell off an ounce of each and spend the money at the bar:
- 1 ozt gold will buy you 324 pints of beer
- 1 ozt silver will buy you 4 (!!!) pints of beer (rounded up)

Even with advances in technology reducing the cost to produce PMs compared to 145 years ago, equal or greater advances in beer production means that your PMs should be able to buy at least as much beer now as in 1875, if not more. Yet, in the case of silver, it only buys you 1/9th as much!

>>16909098
>mn tax
godforsaken state legislature

>>16909356
these fucks are gonna drain my savings account to noting

got me a oz of platinum coming cant wait feels nice to own a rare metal

>>16909465
Shhh st cloud needs it anon...

>>16909205
NOW I MUST BUY TWO MORE BUFFALO ROUNDS TO MAKE MY STACK AN EVEN 26OZT

>>16909205
pretty good info and well-structured post...you could probably do a similar calc for things like meat, eggs, or bread. a loaf of bread in CA, for example, is around $1-$5, five being the highest quality bread. let's just say it's $3 for average quality bread.

now, $3 doesn't sound like a whole lot of money in terms of fiat cash, but when you translate it to silver, it's kind of a lot.

spot silver = approx $18, with premium let's say $20/oz. let's say you live in a state or country with no tax, so $3/20 = 0.15 oz of silver. does that sound like a smart trade, to give up almost 20% of 1 oz of silver for a fucking loaf of bread, that has no nutrient value? i mean, i get buying meat or eggs, because it gives you energy, but a loaf of bread or a pint of beer sounds like a huge waste of cash once you translate into the opportunity cost of "damn i could've added this $4 to me silver-buying order".

imagine spending $100 weekly on groceries, but instead of buying useless shit you get a little thirfty and only buy the bare necessities that will give you nutrients and energy. let's say that cuts it down to $60 per week. now you've got $40 per week to get an extra 2 oz. of silver.

let's say you have a gf, or you're dating. you take her out on the weekends, dinner, dancing, drinks, that's approx $100 per week on dates. that's 5 oz. silver down the drain.

>>16909737
keep in mind buying bread or beer is a waste because those two things can be made at home for much cheaper. i wouldn't skimp on meat, though, because it's a lot harder to raise farm animals, or to hunt. just getting into hunting will cost you a few $100 dollars due to the gear, gun, license needed. so buying meat to basically stay alive makes sense. buying unnecessary, non-nutritious shit like bread and beer doesn't really make sense if you're a frugal silverstacker. just something to think about. i'm not anti-drinking but i do feel massive regret about the actual $1000's in cash i've blown on drinking/dating when i could've been gradually accumulating PMs.

>>16909205
>gold is rising in value
>silver is dropping in value
and?

I don't know why these "chads" think they can call a bottom in silver. No one uses a silver standard, it's just an industrial material these days. As mining gets more efficient, it becomes less valuable.

Yes yes, JPM traders were fucking with the value, but you can never be sure of what their game was, the time scale they were shooting for, or if their gamble would pay off.

hedging with some gold makes sense though.

Now what the FUCK is going on with Palladium?
Did we discover a new use for this shit, or suddenly lose a major source?

>>16909929
Worst case scenario I can at least pass on some silver to loved ones when I die and set them up for success.

>>16909960
...but you're betting on silver breaking out again, and not becoming just metal ore with uses in jewelry and industry.

>My grandpa left me these rocks to pass down to the next generation
>they're supposed to be really important, but they're only worth about three times the price of copper...