/biz/ - Business & Finance

The other thread archived before this gentleman had his dubs checked.

>>16862977
Palladium Bulls finally realized it's just easier to replace it with Platinum?

what do with eagles that tarnished slightly from being exposed to air? clean them with baking soda/aluminum foil/hot water, or leave as is?

>be me
>part of a local discussion group, discussing frugality
>group is full of boomers, i'm the youngest by a good 20 years
>bring up interest on national debt, and how it will be mathematically impossible to make payments on by 2040
>"b-but anon, Clinton didn't have a deficit when he was in office. it can't be that hard to pay off the national debt"
>niggawhut.png
>mfw i'm stacking silver and everyone around me is financially retarded

>>16863028
based.
why are there only silver generals and not gold generals? or precious metals generals?

any euros here?

>>16863082
Because silver is a scam and everyone involved in the silver industry is non profitable so they try to dump their bags on losers by peddling conspiracy theories about its "true value"

>>16863071
how much silver to make it?

t. 17 year old boomer

>>16863111
So 5000 years of history means nothing according to you lul.

>>16863111
so I'm guessing you only buy gold, correct?

>>16863111
This, it is worthless. Buy gold instead, poorfags need not apply.

>>16863127
Yes actually

>>16863108
Is this good or bad? I'm not good at the economy, I'm just here for the memes and the occasional Crypto COOM.

>>16863155
a spike is due anon.

>>16863112
Build your way up to 1000 oz silver and 10 oz gold.
It's okay to start small. Change your mindset. Start seeing everything in oz of silver instead of USD
>anon, why don't you go out to lunch with your coworkers?
skip the lunch and move $10 from your food budget into your silver budget. at the end of the month, buy silver with the funds you have saved up. Even if you only get 5oz a month or so to begin with, it's a start. Remember that 99% of the population doesn't own any silver at all. Stay strong anon.

>>16863071
Why are boomers like this? Everytime I talk about saving money my dad almost calls me a retarded nigger and that I should just spend my money. For example I told him changing filters and oil on my car wasn't that hard and that I was going to do it and save 150 bucks in the process, his boomer brain couldn't compute why I would do that when I could just pay to have it done.
BTW don't fall for the mechanic jew, most stuff is stupidly overpriced and easy to do yourself.

>>16863123
Humans did a lot of things for 5000 years that we don't do anymore. Circumcision is one of them, but there will be always be retards buying silver just like there always be retarded Jew inbred silver coin dealers mutilating American foreskins

>>16863198
You're glowing

>>16863155
It's proof silver doesn't hold its value against inflation. Buy gold.

>>16863209
Yeah ok, Mike Maloney. You gonna post that pic from the debt clock that says silver is actually 1000 dollars and then not actually explain why again?

>>16863151
are you gaymerican or European?

>>16863108
>source: shadowstats.com

>>16863193
because the boomer generation had it easy and will continue to have it easy.
it's us that won't have retirement and will have to live in a brownoid dystopia.

>>16862977
Would it be kino of me to make a 1 oz silver bar into a pendant chain?

>>16863243
Banks and financial institutions issue silver etfs like its nothing and actual mining is like 1/100th of the amount of paper silver which keeps the price surpressed. That's a very obvious bubble and people here hope it will burst, especially with a increasing demand for silver. It's also funny how the bigger issuers of paper silver are the biggest buyers of physical silver. But I guess you know better than the jews at JP Morgan and the like.
Maybe they will never let the bubble burst and we will be left holding literal heavy bags but in the worst case scenario it will still hold its purchasing power since it's a physical asset and not monopoly money.

>>16863111
>silver is a pump and dump reeeeeeeee
okay sweetie you are probably right there but why not get in now (early) and ride the wave? you don't like money? do you really think silver it's as its maximum potential market value right now?

Whats a good exit strategy for PMs? I’m looking to mid-long but don’t want to hodl till I’m a boomer.

What's the best way to store silver coins? I have a few that came in little plastic bags which I keep in a cigar box but I'd like something more organized.

>>16863308
do you just hold physical silver in your bedroom or do you also hold silver etfs?

>>16863278
Mine is inflation adjusted. Proof it's worthless compared to gold.

>>16863420
What I posted is silver inflation adjusted
https://www.macrotrends.net/1470/historical-silver-prices-100-year-chart

>>16863348
give them to me.

Should I buy another 20oz or wait until April March. The fed pumping money into hedge funds has me thinking this bad Larry is gonna pop.

>>16863111
>those trips

>>16863111
Based. It's better to buy 1/10 Ounce Gold coin than the dollar equivalent in silver. By all means, diversify, but don't expect silver to go x10 without gold going x15.

>>16863351
Unfortunately I lost all my silver on a boat accident. Oh well.

>>16863658
>but don't expect silver to go x10 without gold going x15
why? where could i read more about this correlation? i'm poorfag only collecting all the junk silver i can find around, but wanna look into 1/10 oz gold coins

>>16863769
why the fuck would you put silver inside a boat?
where you trying to emulate the pirates of the caribbean?

It's so funny how the shillvers just make shit up. "Some guy in Weimar republic bought an entire block of homes with some silver coins"

Really sounds like fucking snake oil bullshit

>>16863071
thats the PSYOP they push here though, that if you buy and own real wealth, gold and silver, you are a schizo dumbass boomer

When in reality more millenials and zoomers own rocks than us boomers. Boomers are dumb as shit all in t bonds and stocks
>>16863111
low energy

>>16863840
Delete and join us so we can keep accumulating cheap silver

>>16864056
kek
no you guys need to stop fudding already, i mean i know for a fact that (((they))) got paid fudders behind desks in israel who will never stop fudding, but other anons who know the truth need to stop the accumulation fud because they are aligning with those said jews they claim to hate

>>16864149
who is paying you? you're on here every day

>>16864149

>>16864149
>i know for a fact that (((they))) got paid fudders
I regularly contribute to these threads, and do enjoy your tripfagging.
However, youre on 4chan and this means there will be a lot of divisive, jealous people. Having said that, we do good with our current threads; they seem very genuine.

>>16864185
tee off is in 30 minutes, i always post in the morning before rounds
>>16864234
true, lots of antishills became buyers after being exposed to the knowledge of it all. just even a year ago there were no daily silver threads or pmg's because shills always slided them

>>16864199
>Pic related
Why the fuck would JP Morgan hoard silver if it's worthless and not proffitable for thier future? Why the fuck would they issue so many paper ETFs and derivatives on PMs in general if they weren't trying to scam you, like history has shown over and over and over and over again. I saw a CNBC article that came out less than a week ago that was essentially telling people to sell thier gold. The headline might as well read;
>"Sell us your worthless Gold goy!"
People don't ever fucking learn, I swear.

>>16863187
If you distributed all the silver to every person in the world everyone would have less than a gram.

>>16864404
>just even a year ago there were no daily silver threads or pmg's because shills always slided them
I remember reading about and buying silver when I was like 12, I'm 27 now and I have never seen so many people talk about gold and silver in the past year than I have my entire life.

>>16864404
debunk this
>>16863658

>>16864460
>debunk
They're both cheap as fuck compared to fiat, it's a win-win every time you convert paper to real metal. Gold or Silver, pick your poison, it doesn't really matter at this point in history IMO.

>>16863111
Less of a scam than the paper I get paid in kek

>>16863187
>5oz a month

I’m the anon from last thread who got my first 5 Silver Eagles last night. At least 5oz a month is my plan for this year. Really want to dabble in gold also but for now silver seems undervalued, based only on my admittedly amateur take on things.

>>16864521
Get both, but maintain a ratio. I fully expect gold to be $3k within 5 years.
>source: i know a guy in the gold mining industry

>>16864562
Maybe I’ll figure out a sort of standard system to buy both every month. For now I only have a spare $100 or so to set aside, but that at least gets me free shipping from JM.

What kind of silver should i be stacking? Right now I have some maple leaves and a lot of silver eagles. Is fractional silver dumb? Would I be better off just getting junk silver if I wanted smaller silver coins?
Also is fractional gold a poor idea? $1,600 seems like a lot for one coin

I also have a bunch of pic related i got for cheap

>>16864521
Are you goymerican or European?

>>16864521
keep it at a 100:1 ratio
so get 100oz silver and then 1oz gold
or 10oz silver and 1/10oz gold but you'll pay a shit ton more in premiums going that route

>>16864939
Best ally, and in a very favorable tax state as long as I buy technical government currency

>>16864989
Yep between premiums and shipping there’s a huge temptation to just buy higher amounts upfront and sort of amortize the expense over the following months so thinking about that also

>>16865060
>have the means to buy 5oz gold over the course of a year, but lack the capital to do so right now
>get 0% introductory rate on new credit card
>buy the gold now
>pay back the card with no interest over the course of the next year
why shouldn't I do this anons?

>>16865097
I'd rather DCA personally.

>>16863243
Dont you bad mouth based mike maloney

>10 1/10 oz coins cost more than 300 eurodollars above 1 1 oz coin, not to mention shipping costs
why are they so unforgiving with small fishes?

>>16865294
Talking about gold here, Guess I'll just stick with silver

>>16865097
On JMB using a card adds 4% to the price. You can get some back with card points, but right away you’re dug a bit deeper in if the price starts coming down. If it does moon then it works out nicely. For me, it’ll probably be a simple DCA strategy to accumulate around the same time every month.

>>16865294
They don't want you in their game.

>>16864426
https://goldsurvivalguide.co.nz/paper-vs-physical-amazing-amount-leverage-silver-market/

201x more paper silver traded than the global mine supply

>>16864460
80+:1 buying ratio
9:1 mining ratio
gold has little to no industrial uses
MORE above ground gold than silver
silver will outperfrom gold by LEAGUES and BOUNDS. When gold 15x's silver will 150x.
No future technology without silver
>>16864453
people are just beginning to realize the manipulation of these crooks and the true value of metals as a whole
entire birth on the fed on jekyll island was on the premise on stealing money (gold and silver) from the public to enact an international banking cartel to suppress the price and allow for accumulation of money. They gave everyone literal trees in exchange for their hard earned money

>>16865294
just save some money it's not that hard dude

>>16865294
because eurobankers are even more evil than the USA bankers

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-06-18/new-silver-benchmark-seen-heralding-gold-fix-revamp-commodities
>2014
$5 TRILLION in paper silver just to keep this ponzi up and running, and thats only the admitted price from 6 years ago

>>16865591
what's the best way to way to buy silver? physical, etfs, stocks of minning companies?

>>16865636
If you cant hold it you dont own it, but with that said mining companies are a good buy because they usually provide better gains

Golfing with insiders right now
COLLAPSE THIS YEAR
GET YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW
MASSIVE PRINTING
MASSIVE HYPERINFLATION
>greenspan actually told the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxSLtC62RG0
CANNOT GUARANTEE PURCHASING POWER
GLOBAL FINANCIAL COLLAPSE
GET YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET REKT
CAP THIS POST

i'm planing to stop stacking got 500 oz silver 20 oz gold and about 120k in cash. I want enough drypowder to fire when the market crashes. What do you guys think? should i keep on stacking or should i stop and wait now.

>>16863279
Boomers still have to make it through cashing out all of their retirment investments; while competing with each other. The pension bubble is the largest bubble in history.

>>16864708
as someone who used to buy 2.5-5 grams of gold at a time, i think it's better to get the 1/10 oz fractional gold instead. easier to keep track off than grams and lower cost.

>>16865855
>>16865833
>>16864445
>>16864199
>>16863511
>>16863155
>>16863111
>>16863066
>>16862977

>PM bullrun incoming

>>16865754
How are you on long-term storage of food, water and supplies?

>>16865888
888 very auspicious number for the chinamans!

>>16865754
>no gun
>no ammo
sitting duck

>>16865294
just have some money it's not that hard dude

>>16865896
>CHINESE NEW YEARS CONFIRMED FOR PM BULLRUN 2020

I think the most understated attribute of PMs is their inherent nature of strict fiscal responsibility. This explains why banks hate it but will always own it.

Two weeks of accumulating goys

>>16865833
the pussy bubble is even worse.
1/10 fatties thinking they're 8/10.

>>16866172
>I think the most understated attribute of PMs is their inherent nature of strict fiscal responsibility.
Expand a bit more on that..

>>16866207
That’s why they call it the everything bubble. It literally is EVERYTHING

>>16866195
do they lose their "shininess" over time?

>>16866229
No because I keep them in tubes and just took them out to take the picture

>>16866239
ok, thank you.
do you only buy silver?

>>16865895
i don't live in the city or in a dessert there is plenty of water here and i have some rice + beans and guns and ammo
>>16865908
no need to mention my gun and ammo in here i wasn't asking if i should get more ammo kiddo.
make sure to own some toilet paper too.

>>16866195
Based and starterpack-pilled

>>16866221
When you have some, it makes you want more. The higher your stack, the higher your wealth status. You can’t print it. You can’t steal it without severe consequences. Back in time people were actually paid in Gold and Silver, but in today’s terms you have to BUY it with cash. You can buy some on credit, (were in the only time in human history that this is even possible), but you pay the interest and it voids out your purchasing power because you still owe money even though you have a nice PM stack. So to get a nice stack you have to SAVE. To do that you have to WORK for it and pay with EARNINGS. In return the Gold or Silver pay you back by not losing VALUE. Does this make sense? Sorry for the caps, just wanted to accentuate the important terms.

does it matter what i buy (collector's coins, bars, rounds) or is it literally just about how many ounces of silver i get?

>>16866250
desu im a finance and economics undergrad and I started looking into REPO markets and went down a rabbit hole and just started accumulating.

since im a student I dont have good income, so I'm stacking silver hoping the Silver/gold ratio goes down and then I will trade for gold. But Gold > silver

>>16866325
Your nailing it fren, educate yourself and the people you care about. Forget about people who you know won’t listen.

>>16866316
You will pay premiums for ASE or other government minted coins, or other coins with fancy designs.

I find that just raw oz is the best way to measure your stack unless you find you enjoy collecting coins.

It may be slightly easier to liquidate ASE or Maples, but the premium isn't worth it imo

>>16866325
Smart lad. Graduated with an econ degree ~4 years ago. Wish I paid attention then like I do now

How the fuck do we store it. I want to buy some, you've shilled me, but I need to know how to hide it

>>16866261
damn i've been btfo

>>16866378
>>16866353
We're makin it 2020 silverchads

>>16866445
Send it to my PO Box. I'll hold onto it for you.

>>16866311
>Does this make sense?
Oui

>>16866325
>and I started looking into REPO markets and went down a rabbit hole
what about them?
I've been hearing a lot about them lately.
>>16866361
it's easier to liquidate bars or coins?

>>16866311
Can confirm owning some makes you want more

>>16866361
thank you, fren! gonna sell off some stonks and put it into silver while its low

>>16865888
WHEN DAMMIT, I'M DONE ACCUMULATING.

I just want to buy a house...

>>16866593
buy land, build a steel reinforced cabin
better than buying a pre-built house that's already 20+ years old and was probably built using low-grade materials.

>>16866533
Basically
Fed is experimenting with negative interest rates. Right now they're not VERY negative. Somewhere around -.1% or in other extreme cases in EU -.5%. Eventually this coupled with inflation will devalue currency at -(Interest rate)% + -(Inflation for the year)% and will cause changes in many financial decisions. Since holding bonds would provide a negative yield, people will flee the market into things that are not USD based. PMs or other currencies.

I don't believe in the USD's continuance as the world's reserve currency. Much of the current GDP is fake and is inflated because of FED pumping. The REPO market is just where the banks illiquidy is expressed. Its currently at 200B/night, and thats not normal.

>>16866533
In a nutshell, interbank lending froze up so the fed stepped in with massive liquidity injections (100s of billions of dollars). But that wasnt enough so now the fed is giving free money to hedge funds to keep the system alive
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hedge-funds-could-make-one-potential-fed-repo-market-fix-hard-to-stomach-11578997801

>>16866593
>Wants to buy at top
NGMI

>>16866656
Housing Market depends on where you live. I'm not saying I want a single house in Londonistan or Oxford for half a million. You can get a nice, new house somewhere else for less than half of that.

Whoops just realized I haven't posted this yet.

>>16866636
yeah, with negative real interest rates what's the point in saving or holding this fake and gay currency?
just buy gold to preserve your capital.
the dollar is worth 2% of its 1913 value.
it has been completely devalued over a 100 year long hyper inflation.
it's over.
they'll have to change the currency.
I just hope they devalue the currency gradually to allow people to adapt.
Imagine if tomorrow you can't no longer import everything from all over the world.
Most people would panic due to the significant decrease in living standards.

>>16866718
Not gonna lie, makes me so happy to read all that stuff. My 10oz of gold would be worth more than 100,000 Pound Sterling... or 2,000,000 American Dollars.

>>16866755
yeah, but then 2.000.000 USD can only buy you a glass of water.

are there any interesting forums/sites where people discuss precious metals and their history?

>>16866780
But that’s the thing. You take your gold and buy things with real value. Real estate. Then things get better and you sell it and buy gold for the next recession

>>16866822
Mike Maloney is a meme but for a reason. He’s really explained it the best

>>16866501
>>16866539
Wee

>>16866863
for that you'd need to have gold as legal tender..
is it?
or else you're just doing some kind of barter.

>>16866988
>>16866955
>>16866822
>>16866755
>>16866533
>>16866311
>>16865888
Confirmed

>>16863349
I just put mine in pill bottles. Easy and compact from of storage.

>>16863349
Which and how many silver coins do u have anon?
U can stack 20 American Eagles or Wiener Philharmoniker coins in one Tube. 25 Tubes can be stored in one Masterbox (=500 coins).
Maple Leaf and Kangaroo have a tubesize of 25 coins.
Masterbox for Maple Leaf has 20 tubes= 500 coins stored.
Kangaroo masterbox has 10 tubes = 250 coins stored.

>>16864708
Ask yourself, what do u expect for the future?
If u think we will see a crash with hyperinflation,so u have to use pms to trade for goods,then get junksilver and/or 1/10 oz Gold for trading if u cannot store food and hygiene goods.
If u wanna save your wealth e.g for your retirement pay gor for gold in 1 oz or higher.
Silver is an investment and the little brother of gold.
If we get a crisis with high unemploment rates ect, people will run to gold as safe heaven.
The gold price will explode.
Silver on the other hand will fall in a crisis for the first months, because the industrial request will drop.
But people will realize ,when gold is too expensive for them,that silver is the little brother of gold and they will buy it.
That is the moment when silver will moon.
The biggest question will be the gold-silver-ratio.
Could be 1:15 ,1:10 or probably 1:5.Today we have a ratio around 1:80+
Because atm we have around 170.000 t gold but only around 700.000 t silver because we waste it in cars and modern technologies without proper recycling because the price is so low.
New mining areas have to be explored and then u have to build a mine which takes years.

>>16867409
You have to build the mine yes, but also consider that the choice of mineable land will exponentially shrink with geopolitical issues. And current standing mines will struggle to meet demand as well because they have to dig deeper and process far more useless material. I can logically see how the price of PMs absolutely skyrocket, the moon is not even a meme when it comes to this stuff.

>>16866316
If u get the well-known bullioncoins maple leaf, american silver eagle, wiener philharmoniker, kangaroo, u should be able to sell them at the bank or your local dealer.
1 oz coins are easier to sell than for example a 15 kilogramm silver bar.
Just try to get as many pms u can get for your money, which u can easy sell if u need fiat money.

>>16867467
What you going to do when they start importing this shit by the rocket load from space?

>>16867568
Dude, what an oxymoron statement. The cost in dollars to make such a thing possible, (is it even?!), would drive the price even higher short term, probably deplete the resource itself for the tech required, and more and more funding for the R&D to develop that tech. Please think shit through.

>>16867568
Stupid asteroid meme. There are no asteroids with pure pms and we have no technology to mine them and then the costs.... if we have to mine in space then u should get pms, becuase they will by very expensive.

show me your pi charts gentlemen

>>16867911
Based, hope that’s in physical metal.

>>16867935
100% physical, if you don't hold it you don't own it

>>16867969
>If you don't hold it you don't own it
Damn right, ETF owners are gonna get robbed.

88oz .999 8 bars 8 coins
1500 grains sterling (Eskimo bar)
3 silver dollars (scrap for 5 bucks a pop)
Tube of novelty copper (idk why that's in there)
Earrings are 14k white gold
Necklace is 925 Sterling, 14k rose gold accent , 1/10k diamonds
It's not much but it's mine :3

>>16868062
>earrings
youre either a nigger/spic or a female.

>>16868080
I don't wear earrings lol
Found the earrings and necklace basement diving

>>16868062
7 coins rather. 1 is a 2oz
German penny set, incomplete
And a buffalo nickel not worth anything

>>16867911
My mom's been on my case alot about wasting money living in an apartment, so I'm probably gonna put most of the cash toward a down payment on a starter home/condo soon.
I've known about BTC since it was under $1, and I've always thought that crypto was a scam/meme; not salty.

>>16868399
forgot

>>16868413
how can I as a brainlet make a chart like this

>>16866445
Do you have kitchen cabinets? Pull the drawers out and put your stash on the floor down low enough so it won't hit when you close it. Then put the drawers back in and no one will ever know it is there unless they know.

>>16866195
Those buffalos look much nicer than mine. Where did they come from?

>>16866195
>buffalos

>>16868399
It's like I tell people
If you thought it was a bad idea when it came out, it was a bad idea.
And nowadays crypto is such a pain in the ass to deal with I don't even wanna get into It.

>>16868680
The last time I went to the coinstar machine I noticed you can buy Bitcoin there now. When I got home I looked up how to buy from there. I literally yelled at my computer, "nigga I ain't going through all that!"

>>16864989
what about platinum shouldn't it high price then gold?

>>16863082
normailly its just /pmg/ but someone didnt get the memo when they made the threads

>>16868080
I know lots of honkies who wear earrings.

>>16868486
there's something called excel.

>>16863187
>just build yourself up slowly to 20k in silver and 20k in gold

Literally kill yourself.

>>16869304
this

>>16863793
oh boy, we got ourselves a retard here

>>16867568
when? show me all the space mining companies and all the space miners doing space mining things. cut the shit with this meme faggot

>>16867568
buy the time it will be worth we will have already made it

>>16865888
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>16866195
>philharmonics & beefalo rounds
where are u from, anon?

>>16867568
Always the 1 post by this ID asteroid mining fudsters, good god you guys really need to coms up with new fud

>>16869765
What are you going to do when they start pooping out silver by the ton?
Bet you didn't think of THAT you nigger!

>>16869994
They’ll have to dig deeper to meet demand. This includes sifting through and processing all of the shit to get to it which will raise the cost. Mining is a bit speculative, but I don’t think they could produce as much as they claim without running into issues. Plus all of this takes time, labor and technology. Miners have been stagnant for forever because the focus has been on everything else. They’ll need to shake off the dust, no doubt.

>>16870057
I don't know, where's that prospector anon who is always posting pictures of his samples? He was claiming like 60 ounces of silver per ton of ore or some shit, it was a decent number, maybe not as high as I said but seemed like there wasn't really a shortage of silver in the ground. Anyone with actual info on this care to refute/enlighten?

How much silver is still below the ground?? is peak silver a thing?

Kinda disappointing with silver seeing how platinum and palladium is mooning.

>>16868565
What if they know? Will they know?

>>16870272
They will only know if you tell them. It's good to leave out other valuables so in the event of a robbery they just have low hanging fruit to grab real quick and get them to leave faster.

>>16870228
>platinum and palladium
redpill me on these

>>16870166
Afaik 2027-2038 all known silver is mined.but u can explore deeper in the earth, but it will be more expensive to mine it, so the price will go up

>>16870419
They are both used only in the industry.palladium is highly volatile. Platinum is needed for car catalysts.

>>16870481
They are also very shiny.

>>16868605
I got mine off jm with the starter pack, and i bought a few stackable because i wanted to switch it up

>>16868399
>buying condo at the top
NGMI

>>16869634
Chicago

my lcs has philharmonics for 1$ above spot which isnt too bad

I really need to reply to more than one post at a time

>>16870272
If they know you have PMs in the house someone smart might think to look there but some crackhead looking to steal a laptop would never think to look.

>>16870481
Palladium has absolutely mooned, over 10X in 10 years.

Anybody listen to bobert Kiyosoki be an absolute boomer on his podcast to get pumped for financial apocalypse? Guys an OG gold bug

just started getting into silver, I'll be over 1% soon
I wouldn't mind a few percent in PMs as the meme goes


(fyi I never put 90% of my money in BTC, the price has just gone up so much since I bought it)

>>16863066
You can clean with baking soda if the tarnish bothers you but most people don't care. And some people find extra value in tarnished rounds. I understand boomers wanting their silver looking perfect but silver is pointless to me if I cant play with it... ie, don't worry about it being "exposed to air."

what's a good way of avoiding this fucking sales tax, do i have to move to a different state or what. currently in CA yea yeah i know...

>>16870419
>>16870481
platinum has been popular for a while now for jewelry, wedding rings. it's called white gold. go check some roastie-favorite wedding ring brand/maker if you don't believe me.

How do you sell your pm
I’m in uk and this postal method seems risky

>>16873095
could deliver it in person to the mint/bullion dealer

>>16872447
Lmao yes fucking move out of that commie shithole.

Any of you have tips for buying in Europe? I heard I could get silver cheaply by buying in Estonia. Should I do that?

>>16872447
let drumpf take your monopoly money, who gives a shit? you’re exchanging tissues for fucking silver

>>16873514
Celtic Gold Estonia is good

>>16873558
Thanks, I’ll have a look

>>16873558
Holy fuck they’re expensive. Even VAT free it’s more than most European countries with vat.

>>16873514
Try Europeanmint.

>>16872447
Can you avoid the tax by buying over $1000 at a time? They at least give us that in Maryland.

>>16872447
Live in New Hampshire but please be white

>>16873634
Just looked it up. You have to buy more than $1500 at a time to avoid the tax. Wow they really, really don't want poor people to have gold or silver.

>>16873746
THE TAX MAN

>>16873746
damn really? i just order 1170 in platinum fucking jews

>>16873905
nvm the Socialist Somali republic of MN charges 7.25 sales tax on PM no matter what even when ordering online

>>16873514
Buy the silver gold bull bar at spot price.

New and poor, have 75 oz. silver since June. Was going to buy 1 oz gold for every 100 oz silver. How retarded is this

>>16870094
>seemed like there wasn't really a shortage of silver in the ground
Not economical to process at current prices. There is a reason why there is only a few pure silver mines while there are plenty for most other metals.

>>16873514
Check the German precious metals market. Even though there is some Vat we have the most vicious competition among our metal dealers.

Price comparison tool:
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/silber/

>>16873609
have you bought through them?

>>16874197
Yes.

Maple leaf or Philharmonik? Is there any difference investment-wise, beside aesthetics?

>>16874400
how much did you pay for delivery?

>>16862977
>Silver is going to explode within a few years or sooner
Silver itself is not going to explode.
However, silver fulminate is going to explode as soon as it hits the ground.

>>16874478
20 something euros, had a coupon that halved the shipping cost.

>>16863066
Doesn't it require magnesium foil?
Al can form complex ions.

>>16865527
>gold has little to no industrial uses
On the contrary, gold has plenty of industry uses. But its high price means substitutes are usually preferable.

Meanwhile the technological supremacy of silver may be diminishing. Although it's still the lowest resistivity isotropic substance, it's expected that anisotropic substances will be used a lot more in the future.

>>16872447
Any neighboring states have better tax treatment? You can try doing some research to see if there are any little quirks to take advantage of, but CA generally seems to tax everything from what I know. In PA there is no sales tax if the bullion is legal currency, so out here we would also be taxed on that bar but not on government minted coins.

>>16874478

Lookup for the shipping discount code, there's one that works.

>>16863111
checked, based, and 100% goldpilled

Managed to snag 6 vintage Johnson Matthey silver bars at spot from a local dealer. Even comes in a presentation case. Should probably be able to unload on normies for twice that.

>>16873514
>Estonia
tavex

>>16870094
>1200 potential gross profit from 1 ton of silver rock
imagine the processing and salaries that eat into that 1200

First 100oz bar came in today. Englehard. Paper is not money.

Has anyone here tried liquidating a large sum of their stack? How did it go? It seems like no one talks about it or doesn’t do it.

>>16875477
Guess so. I suppose if you could afford to pay people to do it and hold on to the silver it could potentially ve worth it, just more of a longer game.

>>16862977
many of you will make it, but are you spiritually comfy /biz/?

>>16875645
Don't worry anon, I'm also your brother in Christ here

>>16875477
But my point I was making is that there really doesn't seem like a silver shortage. If the price or value increased significantly, then we would see silver mining take off and an increased supply, I'm wondering if it would be enough to potentially offset the potential for a moonshot.

>>16875645
>muh magic skydaddy religion created by illiterate goat fuckers 3,000 years ago
enjoy the eternal nothingness after you die faggot

>>16875675

>>16875645
Man, all that stuff is cool, but being poor is not helping me put on the armor of christ.

>>16873514
Depends where you live I guess.

Most Estonia sellers have 0 VAT on silver coins cause a delivery loophole, so thats why they are almost always cheaper to buy from.
If you google it you can find information on how it works.
>www.celticgold.eu/en/faqs/vat_silver explains it good.

And many of the sellers usually help you buying delivery with the right transport company to come and pick up the goods.

>>16875688
Better pray to the 2,000 year old Jewish zombie, born of a virgin impregnated by a ghost, who is also the son of god and god at the same time, because his blood is the only thing that can remove the sin of an ancient ancestor who was made from a rib and got tricked by a talking snake into eating some magic fruit which gave forbidden knowledge but also damned all of humanity and got them kicked out of eden. And if you don't believe this you'll be damned to hell for all eternity because god loves you.
And if you're (((American))) don't forget to mutilate your baby's genitals :^)

>>16875733
ouch the edge, careful with those sharp edges son

>>16875733
biz is a Christian board pal.

>>16875770
no it's not you fucking retard, it's a jewish board, hence /biz/raeli

>>16875633
silver is a scam.

>>16875792
yes, just like christianity. it's literally the silver of religion

>>16875761
>>16875770
> no u tier replies.
I'm of christ, but with retort like that it's no wonder people are getting sick of your shit, what do you actually go out and do that shows people why being a Christian is a great thing, what works have come to fruition into your lives because of your "faith"?

>>16875790
it's christian, newfag.

>>16875033
>>16875731

If you are swedish you have to buy silver from stores abroads or from privat persons / 2nd hand market.
Since in Sweden you pay 25% VAT on all silver that is store selled, only gold is VAT free.
For gold Tavex are -ok- at best since they have slight premiums on most stuff.

And keep in mind that if you buy gold for over 10000 sek you have to show ID and you end up in a buyers register.
Which all Gold/silver sellers in Sweden are forced by goverment to keep for X years.

So ideally would be to live nearby the store and go paying with cash for under 10K at a time to not get registered.
Sadly 1oz gold coins go for 15000 sek so if you wanna get 1oz you have to show id which makes you a registered gold buyer for X years depending on the store.
And you never know if they really throw it after X years or if they keep it forever.

But sometimes you just lost it all in a tragic boating accident. ect.

Personally I have bought from libertysilver.ee before they got filed a court case about VAT by the swedish IRS-cucks whining about VAT abuse since Estonian silver coins has 0% VAT compared with our 25%.

And Ive bought silver from goldsilver.be

I've gotten some old swedish gold coins from tavex.se, they are more of a historical/collectors coin so they carry a bit of a premium.

>t. Swede with something 100oz silver and 2+ oz gold.
SD 2020

>>16875818
>30 pieces of silver have been deposited to your account

>>16875815
Why bother going out preaching to brick walls?
We're already hated anyway it's not like we'll change peoples opinion regardless on how good act

>>16875790

>>16875838
so cheezus could walk through walls but you can't even preach to one? what a failure

>>16875851
You don't even know what Christianity really is or what the bible says
Because it's a waste of time if no one like you is interested an willing to have an open ear.
You're literally those people who start seething and throwing insults when someone brings up Christianity

>>16875669
>no silver shortage
kek, longs demand delivery, no silver for 2 years, over 5 trillion in paper silver trading to keep this ponzi afloat
>we would see mining take off
I don’t think you realize how hard it is to research and prospect, let alone open up a new mining operation, we are talking about years and years before said mine is even close to operational

>>16875892
I was in that stupid religion for 25 years you goat fucker. I could probably explain it better to you and I've written entire chapters on this subject for comparative religion thesis.

>>16875928
Who shoved that stick up your ass that made you into a jaded atheist sperglord?

>>16875941
I never said I was an atheist retard. So fucking simplistic thinking that anyone who isn't your little cult must be an "atheist" lmfao

How many people here are American? How many are not American? I’m trying to get an idea of what demographics are currently buying PMs. By the way most of you goys talk about VAT tax and shit, I bet most of you aren’t from the US...

>>16875928
t. fell for the subvert christianity PSYOP

let me tell you the guys at the very top of this believe everything in the bible and are using it is a playbook, except they have aligned themselves with lucifer not god

>>16875955
literally might as well be by the way you're acting
>>16875973
You're not wrong Christianity now has been heavily subverted and is now cucked beyond recognition

>>16875973
>blaming the version 1.0 of your own desert religion for it's failures
yikes, eat shit faggot and enjoy your magic crackers.

>>16875989
>literally might as well be by the way you're acting
no you're just a weakling who can't handle the cold hard reality of this universe

>>16875994
>yikes
and enjoy your marvel movies dumb plebbit pagan LARPer

>>16876002
Clearly you were a false convert for 25 years, because you don't understand the real reality

Back in 2012 I bought around 4 tubes of 1 oz eagles they just been sitting in storage since am I good anons?

>>16876032
No I understand the reality, YOU'RE THE ONE who hasn't woken up to the TRUE reality. Christians don't believe any of the bullshit they spout. They just want happy feelings and butterflies, but whenever they face a real crisis or death, then the training wheels come off and they wake up. Also, how the fuck can you be a false convert if it's the religion you were raised in? JFC you're just another low IQ poster in this thread.

>>16876050
>cold storage
i hope thats not in a bank, only place i would trust is brinks
80 ounces you're already better than 99% of the world

>>16876057
You're right that majority of "Christians" these days and just blue pilled to the brim.
I know the harsh and cruel reality of life but I won't let that ruin my faith.
Tell me anon what hurt you? what destroyed your faith?

>>16876089
It wasn't one thing specifically. But I began to realize the Earth wasn't 6,000 yrs/old and that miracles in the Bible aren't any different from the mythologies of other cultures. Knowledge is the first step to discovering the ultimate reality.

>>16864404
>just even a year ago there were no daily silver threads or pmg's because shills always slided them

thanks for making me buy silver when it was still ~14$ last year <3

>>16876134
yeah and if you sold it now after the shipping and premiums you'd just barely break even, good job.

>>16876118
I'm totally aware of this fact, but I know Satan has been doing this same shit different religion for centuries now before Christianity itself was actually established just to device people or make people like you think it's all the same.

>>16876155
>shipping
imagine selling rock online

>>16876176
Yeah I bet Satan went around burying all those dinosaur bones and meteorites just to fuck with people. He's a real trickster that boy is I tell ya what.
Here's a protip for you. Go read Fabric of the Cosmos if you want to understand how the universe operates.

>>16876235
Why would I read that? It's not written out of the inspiration of God the Father, It's just regular men who think they've figured out everything out there.

>>16876262
who tf do you think wrote the bible? It was just a bunch of goat fuckers in the desert who scribbled some shit down. They didn't have deep space telescopes or particle accelerates like we do now. Maybe people nowadays know just a LITTLE BIT more than they did??????

I had to go to church for 20 years, I was altar boy for atleast 7 years and I absolutely despise any religion because of that time. All of them are wrong, there is no white bearded guy on cloud who will save you from doom. There is no hell, no heaven - you just die and you stop to exist.

>>16876313
based and nihilistpilled

>>16876313
>>16876285
>>16876262
>>>/x/

>>16875924
Maybe I don't, which is why I bring it up. I'm not really short on anything except usd. Also you might have based opinions, but fuck uncleoldfag!!!

>>16876285
It's not what they didn't know back then, It's what people don't know now what was already common knowledge back then.

>>16876313
That was the fault of your parents, with a horrible religious upbringing where you were force and not given a choice and I understand it completely.

>>16876326
Fine I'll shut up, but I'm not the faggot that started this, it was >>16875645

>>16868730
The ATMs can be a pain, and the fees suck. But if you buy on coinbase it's completely painless.