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>futures

>>16858873
was 0.30% down most of open this is a rebound

I heard about dividend irrelevance theory but many who endorse it as factual also say that dividends are important to an investment portfolio. Warren Buffett even says that while he likes dividends it does not matter to him if a stock pays out dividends or not.

What are they saying then? It sounds like there's something I am not getting but they seem to be saying contradictory things.

>>16858912
Stock gives you money or Stock spends money itself

If the spending on itself is productive it's fine and increases your value.

>>16858894
>futures

>>16858873
Imagine being worried about futures when we survived ww3 and opened green.

>>16858912
Dividends don't matter. Value doesn't change just because it has no dividend.

>>16858922
Mnuchin should be on CNBC in the AM. Given that his quote was used to dip the market I think he will pump it.

Absolute newcunt question:

If you buy in to ETFs/Indexes, are you always able to sell them whenever you want?
Like how on crypto markets you just click sell and it will sell it at the market rate.

Is it that simple for indexes/ETFs? Does anybody garuntee these funds? What if the company running it goes under? Do you just lose everything?

>>16858928
we WON ww3 already. zero casualties and we got some Canadians shot down for the lulz. we didn't just survive.

>>16858929
>Munch on CNBC
>futures

99% of my holdings are in crypto and PM, I know nothing about trading stocks and I'm scared to do more than dip my toes in.

It says more than 5 sell actions in a 5-day sliding window classes you as a day trader. What's the result of that label? I assume it's a tax thing, changing profits from investments to income?

Gold rising, oil dropping, palladium is absolutely unstoppable, and futures mild red. Asia... down half a percent.

>>16858929
I want to game it but I’m not fuckkng with it. He loves to pump it but who knows.

>>16858831
Anyone know if gbtc and and ethe qualify for the new irs crypto question?

>>16858959
I gambled long after headline dip

>>16858894
Fake and gay rebound that will be sold off by morning. Painting the tape by MMs to Jew the goys into ignoring that obvious as fuck descending triangle and inevitable "sell the news" dump that is going to happen aftee Donny signs the trade deal.

Down to 3253 and then we resume the golden bull into earnings season.

>>16859120
Our futures traders always sound so angry...

So you expect the market to shave 1% off the S&P tomorrow? Horrifying

>>16859120
The tuesday selloff changed thimgs

Im seeing green tomorrow now

>>16858912
That's up to you. Depends entirely on trading style and how much money you have involved. Divvies are not insignificant if your portfolio is worth 6 figures or more.

>>16859120
>obvious as fuck descending triangle
Uh, descending triangle is bullish if you're gonna play by that kind of shape identifying game. Ascending triangle is the bearish one.

>>16858955
For robinhood I think they lock your account for a bit, dunno how long
You are going to need 25k into your account if you want to day trade like a loon

Hello SMG, so do you think China stocks are going to pump at open because of the trade deal or are they going to sell on news?

>>16858936
During market hours, yes.

If an etf you hold is liquidated you can indeed lose 100%. Don't buy shitty high risk etfs. Most recent notable etf liquidation was 2018, an inverse vix etf (shorting the vix essentially). This is rare but it happens.

>>16859349
the thing that happened to XIV cannot necessarily happen to any ETF. It happened exactly one (1) time.
XIV was an ETN that used complex futures trading voodoo to inverse the VIX. so it is like a derivative of a derivative. Telling someone new to stocks to fearful of ETFs because of the XIV thing isn't really realistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZYHJQcLQ8k

buying ETFs or mutual funds that are not leveraged and track normal equity indices is "safe". You can lose money, even a lot of money during a market drawdown, but it is absurd to think that any set of conditions could lose all your money.

>>16859349
>liquidated
wait woah wait what about when fund managers decide to close them because they're aren't enough AUM to warrant keeping it open?

I was just looking it up when this guy replied...
>>16859384

Investopedia:
>Shareholders typically receive notification of the liquidation between a week and a month before it occurs
>The remaining shareholders would receive their money, most likely in the form of a check, for whatever was held in the ETF. The amount of the liquidation distribution is based on the net asset value (NAV) of the ETF.

You freaked me out for a second. I hold an ETF that seems entirely likely it will be closed.

>>16859333
Nice trippy trips
If you mean the open of the US market, no idea. Probably depends on what is revealed about the BIG TRADE DEAL. But aren't most of them primarily traded in China, and pretty much just ADR's in the US? So they should be down because china market was selling?

Foodtures

>>16859415
that kind of liquidation is different than the XIV liquidation

if an ETF decides to close, it's just like if a company with tangible assets>debt goes bankrupt (but much quicker and more straightforward): shareholders get paid out. the ETF shares are cashed out and everyone goes their separate ways.
The only time that doesn't happen is literally one time (so far) and it involved an ETN that was trying to track the inverse of volatility, where volatility comes from futures contracts, but those futures contracts are another derivative that comes from a calculation based on options price IV... it is something that you should know about and understand eventually, but it isn't something that should stop someone from investing in 'normal' ETFs...

>>16859420
The foodture is now, old man

>>16859415
>I hold an ETF that seems entirely likely it will be closed.
Why?

>>16859456
Why do I hold it?
>Why EWJV?
>Exposure to large- and mid-cap Japanese stocks with lower valuations based on fundamentals
This is attractive to me regardless of whether or not valuation is a meme. However now that I'm comparing it to other funds it's looking like it's too heavily consumer cyclical and financial. I wanted cyclicals, but I was thinking industrial, which should have a lot of room to grow if Japanese economy picks up this year.

If you mean why might it close, it's only got 7.7 mil under assets under management. Small funds aren't very profitable so they can get closed.

>>16859331
I'll work my way up to that very slowly. I can't day trade for the next year, so I'm just gonna make small deposits here and there and learn.

Thanks for the info.

>>16856494
The have debt. They could pay it off rather easily though and they still make money. All of their losses are goodwill write offs and debt seems a bit higher compared to the years before due to some accounting shenanigan of reclassifying of lease obligations as debt. They're here to stay for the next few years. Financially they could easily pull it around if they only had competent management...combined with the bankruptcy valuation and the 100% short interest this is actually a nice play...provided that the management doesn't do dumb shit like random acquisitions

>>16859705
you forgot your trip

>>16859333
depends on the stonk. I have a few hong kong based stonks in my portfolio and they behaved pretty weirdly during market hours (market closed an hour ago) Most started in red but ended up green. There were quite a few in red tho, but I wasn't holding them so whatever. It's never this linear however, there are stocks that seem to be immune to bear flags, that's when you know you've picked the right one. I predict a green week however, yesterday was merely a correction from the überbullish monday. Pre market is always bullshit.

Should I get rid of OGI now? Or do you see another bumb today?

>>16859709
I can understand the aversion to go long here given the sector and everything but it's a really shitty short...whatever you do don't go short. That's financial suicide. 2x FCF...probably more due to the decline in rev but still...that's the most horrible short I've ever heard of.

>>16859813
just... put on your trip... for consistency... it's obvious enough anyway...because all your investing decisions are made based on your shallow "understandings" of what "institutional ownership" and "short float" mean....

>>16859824
You sure know better..... right? I can see that on your lack of arguments.......
lciguy always posts with his trip...newfag.....lurk more.................

just made my first stock market trade, just set a 5k buy order for NDAQ because it has dividends and it seems to mirror the NASDAQ Index, and these indexes just keep going up forever right? did I fuck up?

>>16859869
no. chill bro.. just fucking chill. This is a marathon not a sprint... fucking chill.. you have time.. don't just go cashing out when it drops and putting in when it goes up.. just fucking chill.... put money in every once in awhile and dollar cost average until retirement.. just chill bro.. you got this.. you're gunna make it.. just chill

>>16859847
>lciguy always posts with his trip
this is true.. even if I phone post I post with my trip.. someone has even tried to call me out before on it until they realized there were 2 Ids..(even though sometimes some faggots use my trip) I stand behind my LCI pick strongly

LCI to $60

>>16860042
>>16859847
>>16859824
Oh wait.. I didn't realize you guys were talking about GME... GME is a tough one... the tension is strong...... the bulls have a good arguement and so do the bears.... bears are thinking it's going to go straight to zero.... stocks don't just go straight to their target... right now with GME there isn't any substantial news to cause it to go much higher or even much lower... lets be real.. the business so far is kinda the way of the dinosaurs.. BUT news of new consoles could start a 1-2 year up trend esepcially with the amount of shorts.

One of the arguments is that physical games won't be a thing with next consoles but yet bulls say that people don't store a lot of games on their hard drive due to storage......

theres a lot of pros and cons to GME just gotta trade it with caution.. probably not really a trade for newbs imo...... would probably be a gamble to them if they don't know how to trade it..

Nq and es will become more decoupled this year with nq underperforming by about 10%

>>16859869
>drops 50%

Bitch, hahahahahaaaaa!!!!!

I hope trump pumps up BYND soon

https://robintrack.net/symbol/TSLA
See how robinhood user holding is inversely correlated to share price? Not this time...fomo is creeping up.

>>16860086
> the business so far is kinda the way of the dinosaurs
Sadly, yes.. they have to innovate a bit. Move a bit more to vr/ar maybe...test in the store => take it home..provide something Amazon can't do..make it social, make it interactive. There are a lot of cool things going on in vr/ar but I wouldn't buy something like this from the get go without having tested it first. This is where gme could have advantages.. . If the new consoles really have backwards compatibility up to the first gen they could sell bundles since they still have a shit ton of old games in their inventory...buy a ps5 game get a random ps1/2/3/4 for free...financially it all could work out, it's on the management now... . Not that I care about the company in the long term...but you know..whatever drives the share price higher..I mean Rite Aid mooned on fucking ice cream.

>>16859333
The hell is she wearing?

Also buy Amazon, please.

>>16860321
Sexy swimsuit

Reminder anime niggers should kill themselves

Redpill me on KHC

>>16860321
Why?

>>16860624
warren buffet loves cheap ketchup stocks

>>16858936
>>16858955
>>16859869
SOXL is the answer. Face it. Semiconductors are crack in all but name. The desire for newer, faster, more is insatiable. Computers, GPUs, self-driving electric cars, AI enhanced smartphones, medical devices, microcontrollers, networking gear, machine learning, surveillance, infrastructure, military, the list is endless. No matter how many cores, how fast or efficient, demand requires bigger, faster, cheaper, better. The clamor for fresh silicon gives nary shit for national identity, creed, hue, gender, asshole virginity or other vain conceit; the multitude speaks in singular. The plea: semiconductor.
SOXL couples a single ETF entry point with the the best companies the space has to offer then pushes these already stellar returns to the limit with 3x leverage. With SOXL your economic interests are aligned with powerhouses Nvidia, Qualcomm, Intel, Broadcom, Micron, Texas Instruments, Applied Materials, et al. Real tech companies with innovative products people want, not """tech""" """companies""" pushing shitty ads. And like all leveraged ETFs, SOXL is rebalanced daily, deftly mitigating margin risks.
In the last 7 years, SOXL has exploded over 55x yet still we are early. Semiconductor growth will proceed exponentially until every viable space is saturated with it. This is a fait accompli; the sheer number of interested parties and obviously compelling outcomes make it so. The injection of increasingly compact and efficient sensors, microcontrollers, information processing and storage into everywhere and everything will be this era's seminal revolution, a revolution with SOXL holders planted firmly at the receiving end.
Stop waiting for the "pullback". Where we're going, fretting over a few dollars is meaningless. The deliberation is over; waiting is a failure mode. Now. Buy it now.

>>16860696
And what happens with a leveraged ETF when there is a mild correction?

>>16860738
You thank the gods for their grace in allowing you to buy more at a discount. If you are all in you start selling valuables. If you have literally every single dime in SOXL then you start rolling the shares over to OTM calls. If it corrects more roll more shares. If it keeps going roll the calls until the inevitable rise. Then rest easy as multimillionaire status is assured.

>>16860465
No u

>>16858912
Mostly, you should be clear about what a divvy means. Financially, there isn't a difference between a stock that goes up 10% and one that goes up 5% and pays you a 5% dividend. Same amount of money either way.

The difference is in what it says about the company. A company that didn't pay a dividend is keeping the money to grow itself. A company that pays a large dividend is stagnant, or at least 'mature'. It could also be the case that a company with an apparently high dividend has actually been bleeding share value and just refused to cut the dividend. So for example, if it was paying 4% last year, but it's stock price has dropped by half since then, it'll look like it's paying 8%, even though the company is clearly in trouble.

So dividends aren't the be-all-end-all.

>>16860760
nvm cant buy this shit in europe

>>16860696
who ARE these birds?

imaginethesmell

>>16860760
Futures slowly greeen

>>16860852
Gonna be a beautiful day

Please guys tell me that CLF is sinking like a rock today. Let it burn to the ground. Just gib me hope.

>>16860696
imagine the smell after feeding them plant based meat

>>16860885

What are headlines!!!!

Target is dead good fuck retail brickers

That PEP poster was on to something

https://www.guerillastocktrading.com/dark-pool-activity-in-pep-stock-on-cheetos-popcorn-rollout/

say if i wanted mitigate market and sector risk by going long/short on different stocks of a particular sector, what long would compliment a gamestop short?

>>16860957
A source briefed on the agreement told Reuters that China will purchase an additional $80 billion worth of U.S. manufactured goods over the two year period, including aircraft, autos and car parts, agricultural machinery and medical devices.

>>16861081
>cheetos popcorn

We are all going to make cash money today goyims’. Stretch out the clicker finger and prepare yourself to be sitting crooked from this day forward because of having a fat wallet.

>>16861104
Mnuchin live cnbc

>>16861144
Is he PAMPIN??

>>16861219
Neutral

Hes straight talking without spin

Think KGC is a good buy?

A bit clueless in what to invest today. Any earning reports coming up? Or possible deals?

>>16861255
Trump signing today

I have an appointment to go to and I should have rubbed one out. Life is hard

>>16861264
SSE did not move much today though.

I admit at least 70% of this post is fueled by envy on not having bought tesla when it was relatively cheap, but this is a sell sign if I've ever seen one

>>16861264
. . . Sell the news?

We need more rate cuts

>>16860885
kek

>tough sell

>>16861290
Ark mommy is right

>>16861348
Nah just do it

Attention span is one second for media

>>16861348
>dat seigniorage!

>>16861255
do you buy something everyday?

>>16861463
No. Just when I sold something and have some money available. Or if I see a good deal.

My two targets were absolutely perfect, especially the 130-133 one. Caught the top boys, made roughly 65% on that trade even though I have a small amount left because I caught the "bottom" at 72 and doesn't want to withdraw completely. You know.. not to flex or anything

>>16836074
>>16836147

>>16861348
So who messed up? Point72? Dalio? Soros?

>>16861290
hell no
you will miss an opportunity
buy into the FOMO
just get out before the inevitable dump

>>16858955
holy shit
switch to another platform

day trading is where the money is

ACB to $3 EOW

>>16861494
>switch to another platform
Pattern day trading is based on a federal law. Platform is irrelevant.

>MEDVEDEV SAYS RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT SUBMITS RESIGNATION: INTERFAX
Hm? What are you doing now Russia?

>>16858831
part 1/6

just wanted to make everyone aware of
VIRTUS LIFESCI BIOTECH CLINICAL TRIALS ETF (BBC)

I haven't seen it shilled here before. It contains many of the biotech /biz/ favorites and many than haven't been mentioned here.

I'll start with the stats (pic related).

The next 5 posts will be a list of the companies in the ETF. Take it or leave it, but I thought it might interest some anons.

>>16861566
part 2

>>16861566
part 3

>>16861566
part 4

>NIO popping on rumors of funding secured
Id buy puts if i weren't a puss puss.

>>16861566
part 5

>>16860840
Naive as hell. If they keep the money, there are a million non-profitable things they can blow it on. If they pay out a dividend, you get paid.

>>16861625
i had puts expecting their last earnings and the chinese tesla factory to kill them......that didn't work out.

>>16861633
Just set div to 0 and buy back shares instead 4head

Are the bank stocks fucked?

>>16861717
Didnt Bank of America beat earnings?

>>16861255
Bank of America is on now.

>>16861720
Seems so. But you know how they butter it up. Unless you know every single term they use it’s hard to say. I’m listening but only partially following.

>>16861534
some companies enforce it more than others

f1d3l17y barely enforces anything.
I was pattern day trading constantly and never restricted. It even took at least 50 instances of me selling a stock before the money was settled for them to start enforcing that rule with me. (essentially I got 50 free margin trades).

>>16861720
I don't know what's actually going on but XLF is getting destroyed pre market

>>16861754
yeah might pull those calls I placed last night before open.

times like this I am happy options are normal hours only.

THIRTY MINUTES BOIS

Why are futures crashing??

Aaaahhhhhhh quick boys what do we buy today????

Let's get these BYND and TSLA pumps goin so we can get some tendies

>I'm up pre-market

Oh fuck that is never good.

Sava getting some press coverage. Consider buying in soon if you haven't already. Our 'under the radar' status is approaching to its end. Next catalysts are announcing full enrollment and a paper coming out.

When is the signing / announcement supposed to happen today?

Seems like there's a lot of scared money thinking China is going to back out.

So thoughts on SPY?

>>16861754
cancelled my call based on BAC slipping like this. Don't wanna put all my hopes on GS which XLF holds much less of. Best of luck if you go for it.

from Chinese side
Arrive 11 est
Sign thirty min later

11:00am arrival
11:30am signingf

From chinese state media

>>16861893
I bought at .08 so I'm out a good bit already, just hoping it doesn't become worthless honestly

>BYND
oh my god I'm shaking right now

>>16861824
All markets in world down
No reason just volatility or sell the news

>>16861936
this is why I don't fuck with options too much.I know XLF will be up again over time, but, theta gonna theta.

>>16861704
Then give those shares away to senior management as a bonus two years later, kek.

>>16861947
Do you think it will return to normal today?

>>16860840
>>16861633
I agree with Mr. Doubles. Dividends are the company returning some portion of earnings to its shareholders. Companies should only not pay out a dividend if they can achieve a unique and significantly higher return to its shareholders by retaining that money than if they had paid it out. If a company is only able to achieve ordinary returns, then they have no reason to keep earnings from the shareholders. Dividends are a definite amount of money paid out now, whereas any money by the company is not actually realized as a gain by the shareholders and may never be realized. Further, the supposedly re-invested earnings kept by the company may very well just be squandered and never yield any gain to shareholders. Read what Benjamin Graham has to say in the Intelligent Investor. Graham says that the vast majority of companies should pay out roughly two thirds of earnings in dividends.

>>16861869
If I get rich from sava and galt let me buy you a drink.

>>16861997
SAVA might do it. GALT just seems to struggle.

When are invitations for annual meetings sent out?

>>16861892
>SPY
BUY

>>16861704
Share repurchases are not always a bad use of money, but only if the company repurchases shares at a discounted price to fair value. On the other hand, even if the company does re-purchase shares at a good price, if they are doing that with money that would have otherwise gone to dividend payments, surely I as a shareholder could have just used my dividend payments to repurchase shares for myself at whatever price I saw fit. In addition, the more the company takes away from dividends to repurchase shares, the less they are reducing their dividend obligations by repurchases.

Reminder even though SNSS anon is up $14,000 from last month in SNSS holdings he is still in the red because of SNSS. If he managed to break even and sell, it would only be because he bought massive amounts to help him average down. He would technically still be selling thousands of shares at a loss. This is not someone you want advice from. Take my advice and sell, I predict it will crash like AMRN or ESTR.

Ding ding

>>16861566
I like it. Essentially the Baker Bros ETF

>>16862099
EVERY TIME I AM UP PREMARKET I CRASH AT OPEN AHHHHHH
>>16861858

Redpill me on the future of semiconductor stocks. Worth it to buy some?

>>16862098
>He thinks I'm just waiting to break even
>He thinks the BTK inhibitor that showed consistent BTK inhibition in the 300mg cohort and has the best safety profile of all of them is doomed to fail
>He thinks everyone here is a sheep and that I have proselytized a cult

>>16862145
Nvidia is pretty good imo. I'm pretty sure they count as semiconductors. I'm a programmer and I can confidently tell you that Nvidia has a monopoly on machine learning. The most popular ml libraries are based on the proprietary Cuda libraries which Nvidia makes for their gpus. Amd and other competitors are basically cornered in this regard.

>>16862145
In the medium/long term it's basically free money and one of the surest highest return bets you can make in the market so just DCA into SOXL and get rich

>>16862157
Yes, my lord. We will laugh with scorn on the prophesied day of reckoning, when the infidels are utterly destroyed.

Damn what a strong open for indexes

>>16862157
>has the best safety profile
They have this one in the sack but don't non covalent inhibitors have a logarithmic response curve or is my 8th grade chemistry wacky on this one?

>>16859766
>not holding OGI at least until it hits $8 again

We're at the very beginning of the bullish year for cannabis and you want to dump already?

I bought near the top of SPY yesterday. Got bogged into close. Held into today and lo and behold I'm up +0.56%. Maybe Buffett was right.

>>16859766
OGI is going to $10

Why are people buying weed stock again, what changed

>>16862179
I agree. I've always been long on Nvidia. I invested $10k in them back in 2004, and its been a great performer. Sure investing in google, amazon, facebook, etc. would have given better returns long term. However, I really like nVIdia's products, their device support is unmatched and they seem to have good leadership. Good company all around.

>>16862203
More of a logarithmic inhibition saturation curve but basically yes.

>>16862261
ACB is about the bounce zone, no investing, trading. Don't know about ogi

SPCE chads rise the fuck up

>>16861526
unironically true

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/congress-will-debate-two-bills-to-legalize-marijuana-at-hearing-with-dea-witness-next-week/

AHHHHHH WHYD I SELL MY IBB CALLS????

>galt pumping
What is happening why?

>>16862261
OGI more than doubled their revenue since last year, beating estimates.

That doesn't mean it's time to buy every shitty weed stock. It means it's time to buy OGI in particular. As the good companies mature they're going to stop trading together with the bad ones as much.

Keep an eye on VFF as well.

Green... must be green

>Shorting the last level on S&P before there's nothing else to short
>Gets out with 1.5 points profit before it keeps on mooning
Damn I'm pro

>>16862008
Keep in mind that sava has a bumpy road far ahead. The science behind galt is much more mature, so it's pretty much just a waiting game. The problem with sava is that it is not clear why their target has this altered conformation in the first place. If it is caused by bacteria, then crtx is a very powerful contender against sava. Luckily this doesn't need to be answered for a year though.

>bears

>>16860018
This , just don’t make emotional decisions , when it drops just buy more

Buy S. Now's the time.

>>16862267
Yeah, they are undervalued even if revenue and growth are low now. Assuming that ai models only continue to increase in complexity, then Nvidia's gpus will continue to get more demand for professional tasks.

>>16862179
yeah, they specifically tell you not to buy AMD for anything ML related just because of software. On top of this NVDA has better hardware.

>>16862387
True. also things like raytracing and other tech which btfos old gens is becoming more prevalent.

1 hour (11 AM EST for arrivals of Chinese premier)

1 hour 30 minutes ( 11:30 AM EST) for signing

probably will be late

We're 0.9 off a being at a WORLD RECORD HIGH.... This market can only go one way. And that's down. Sell your shit asap.

>>16862228
>>16862251
I think so too. Actually I set a Stop Limit for all stocks but I dont even bother here. Its going all the way.

>>16862403
AMD can do raytracing.

>>16862377
They are getting bought out or something right?

>>16862331
Interesting, but what factors go into knowing the good ones?

>>16862412
New all time highs before the signing and then the actual profit taking begins just to dump indexes in order to get new positions for the phase 2 back-and-forth bullshit. That's my guess, before Friday at least.

>>16861081
Wasn’t kidding the popcorn is good. Those afterhours buys yesterday had me regretting selling my calls. And today we pumping FAKK

>>16862324
>pumping
>returning to $3 on meh volume
Made me look

why the fuck did I sell PILL @ 24?

Any idea when Aurora will release its earnings?

>>16862440
people took profits and dumped tuesday though, some of the pressure is off

You fucking better have some V in your portfolio.

If you don't... god help you get some fucking sense.

>>16862430
>They are getting bought out or something right?
Yeah, but this rumor is around since I am trading stock...so..meh.
It's simply a good spot for it to bounce. Tight sl at 4.75. Mabye wait for the intraday break

>>16862189
I can't buy the tracker apparently. Would it be smart to buy the top 5 holdings or something of the etf?

>>16862440
agreed.

>>16862428
maybe. I'll just ride the uptrend with tighter stop losses. No reason to panic.

You did buy AMC at the 6.50 bottom right anon? You do know they are opening luxury theaters in Saudi Arabia right anon?

>>16862507
Why not MA?

>>16862487
Oh god oh bro you have no idea...
Sometimes you just gotta take profits...
SHIT I should’ve bought so much more pharmas

>>16862523
You could do that but you wouldn't get the advantage of the leverage. Look at SOXX and S M H (without the spaces (damn filter)) as those are the non-leveraged semiconductor ETFs. You may be able to buy one of those

>>16862536
No, but I almost would have bought them at 7.10.

>>16862157
>namefag
My lord /smg/ is cancer

This market is a beast. No one believed me when I said it was at the bottom awhile ago. Now look!

>>16862543
>Why not MA?
Because you can make way more profit with V. Are you a looney?

Expectations for the market one the trade deal gets announced?

>>16858831
Just made $20 and I'm willing to bet at least $400 on a penny stock. What are the recommendations for today? Anything from 5 cents to $5.

did you buy AOI when i talked about it last week?
today it's up about 15% with the news of off-shore nigeria oil, in total it's up more than 30% since last week
don't buy now though, risk is high, but currently there is absolutely no reason for this not to double in value during 2020

>>16858831
Just made $20 and I'm willing to bet at least $400 on a penny stock. What are the recommendations for today? Anything from 5 cents to $5.

>>16862654
No

MYOV conference thing starts now

https://jpmorgan.metameetings.net/events/hc20/general_signin

Uhhhh bros?
This sounds like it could be YUGE

>>16862628
A little bit loony. Can you explain why?

>>16862682
It’s been on the rise since the beginning of the year, I wouldn’t fomo in this second

>>16862682
Chap! Read the fucking chart.

DYOR

>>16862666
Why does share price matter to you? Fucking ingrates, stay poor.

>>16862741
Satanic trips of truth. Share price indeed

When to buy Sprint? How soon until the merger?

>>16862666
Consider ONTX and VBIV, both medium to long holds. Not gonna be enormous moon missions but feel pretty confident they'll make good money over the next 6 months, then I'm likely gone. Up over 30% in both

>>16862430
>>16862511
We all know it but when will the fed actually let them? They don't have much longer until they default on most of their debt and the stock will be not worth the merger when that happens.

Lol oil
Where my Texas fren at?
Sub $2/gal when?

CLF is so predictable. Shorts are going ham today. Longs can't tread water. Easy money.

>>16862865
>ham

>>16862875

>>16858831
Do you guys make money here or do we just post anime pictures?

>>16862666
Dump it into ACB satan. Terry Booth loaded a shit ton on the 3rd.

>>16862911
You know the answer

>>16862911
We make money and tell people. We lose money and don't tell people.

>>16862911
We lose money here fren

>>16862911
I've made around 20% in my main account over the last year plus, so yea I think people actually do when they're being serious. But a lot of people gamble on memes in smaller accounts and either get lucky or get JUSTed

>>16862911
I make money here. I benefit from anons posting their stock picks and I contribute by posting my suggestions.

So i recently sold my shares of ACB last friday but now I want to buy more. Is this allowed legally? I don't want it to be labeled a "wash sale" but is a wash sale even illegal?

I'm just going to buy a single S. In case the merger converts sprint stock to T mobile and is not a cash deal, that makes my $4.80 into $80 from the amount of stock being rounded up.

>>16862911
You put money on meme stocks when they peak and then cry yourself to sleep when they drop
RIP BYND

Reminder to buy EWT!

based

>>16862951
>>16862950
Thats actually cool.
>>16862949
I don't have money so I can't lose money. Maybe one day I will look into stocks.

>>16858831
anons, NIO is blowing up. Go put some money on that shit right now and sell when it hits $5 or $6.

>>16862911
Both

I hope

>>16862957
Didn't some guy yesterday say he went all in due to FOMO?

Should I get rid of my Nvidia call spread? The stupid thing keeps shooting up and down almost randomly. But it's not really moving much.

>>16862098
>only be because he bought massive amounts to help him average down. He would technically still be selling thousands of shares at a loss
so, cancel him? or something?

>>16862911
just put your money in the S&P 500

>>16862964
based (((etoro))) user

>>16862970
I definitely would. No cash in hand, though, and I'm not selling something for a pseudo-meme stonk.

>>16862970
>>16863010
I was asking about NIO on sunday, anyone know if the chinese goverment wants to or would support them? I would think they would want to cut into tesla the american company with their own product.

Why does writing puts puts beat covered calls?
In both cases, I cap my upside in exchange for a fixed gain/higher leverage. How can one be more profitable than the other? And why isn't the following strategy guaranteed win?
>short covered calls
>long writing puts
(= sell puts, buy calls, short stock)
(= short stock, synthetic long stock)
(= positive risk-free return)
Am I just long vega or some shit?

>>16862970
I sold for 2.38

>>16862098
>He would technically still be selling thousands of shares at a loss
This is true. I wish more people would know the stupidity of averaging for the sake of averaging.
But you know...logic and people...incompatible.
AMRN crashed as a result of the hype bubble bursting. SNSS is quiet now. Not much going on. If I had to decide between short and long I'd take long.

boy I sure am glad I own TGTX

BUY BYND

>>16863031
>I would think they would want to cut into tesla the american company with their own product.

I would think so too. The way tsla's stock prise has risen dramatically, it's only logical people would invest into a potentially cheaper and invasive competitor. As I said, if I had some extra cash laying around, I would dump some into this.

>Vascepa found to reduce incidences of cancer and diabetes, FDA approval of further label expansions imminent
>AMRN down another 15%, current market cap down to $5 billion
>"Well at the end of the day we feel the right business model is simply giving this shit away. Fuck whitey." -John Thero, CEO

>>16863078
btw I always say this, but I still can't seem to "keep cash laying around", I can't help but putting it to work somewhere. bad habit.

Up 400% on my 8.5 CRON call
feels good

>>16863036
The strategy is fine, but nothing in the market is guaranteed. What happens when you write a covered call and the stock suddenly loses 50%?

>>16863074
this but unironically

Analysts finally noticing SHAK being undervalued. Glad I bought at $60.

>>16863073
Good job dude
I wish you’d told us something about the company weeks ago instead of just one sentence and an anime girl.
>>16863085
Kek poor bag holders...
I told ya, you want expensive drugs and long patent cliff. It’s already on the market and it’s cheap as fuck. Sorry man.

>>16862983
It's about to explode when trade deal signed in 20 mins

>>16863010
hey, it's the one broker that will take my sweet € money

>>16863091
You lose slightly less than if you'd have went long the stock without selling the call.

>>16863114
it's a pleb broker

>>16863110
ive literally been telling you to buy TGTX for ages

>AMC
AMC
>AMC
AMC
>AMC
AMC

THANKS TO THAT ANON WHO POINTED OUT THAT AMC BOTTOM

>>16863138
kek some anons just don't listen...

>>16863131
Correct, but you still lose. What if you sell a covered call and the stock moons 200%? Another loss. Both extreme scenarios but nothing is guaranteed

>>16863138
Yeah and I said I wish you’d be saying more than just “buy it”

If I bought every time someone said buy it without giving any details I’d be fucked

>>16863138
price has doubled since these posts by the way guys

and it will double again from here

but dont bother listening to me

Did they sign the deal-e-yo?

>>16862312
RIGHT HERE

SOXL is on sale today. At least get 1 share anons

>>16863113
OK, I hope your right. I'm a bit spooked. But I'm not down too much.

>>16863135
If I can make money on it that's all I need

>>16863106
What's your PT? was considering getting in but that's a big jump today and dont know if I want to get in too high. Still need to do more DD

>>16863165
>buy it without giving any details I’d be fucked

>>16863165
ok let me explain as simply as possible

TGTX has a successful phase 3 trial for a lymphoma drug that has outperformed the current frontline treatments on the market

it is going to get FDA approval this year

it also has a multiple sclerosis trial that looks promising (same drug)

what else do you need to know

>>16863178
i only have 1. been trying to trade up some pharma to get more.

>>16863157
That's not what I'm describing as risk-free, what should be risk-free is short covered calls and long put writing.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

ITW and O pay me today. anyone have frens visiting?

>>16863224
right on

What are the chances the chinks back out at the last minute?

>>16863238
I've made more on TSLA calls this month than a million dollars worth of boomer dividend stock would have paid me.

>>16863238
Just bought $1K worth of leveraged income ETNs today, excited for my monthly divvies

>>16863235
Then yes the only risk is being assigned or having shares called away. It's a fine strategy, collecting theta decay premium is always nice.

>>16863142
No problem brother

Since I put the rest of my fiat in (minus what I owe in CC payments) I'm already back in profit

Feeling /comfy/

>>16863207
Damn. That is promising.
I need to know more details and if they have partnerships, institutional support, good management, and look at the trial results but that’s a great start.

>>16863238

>>16863189
I fell for the etoro meme myself. It's okayish, but I'm migrating to ib as soon as I can. They have a lot of fuckery that I know, sooner or later, will be a problem (delaying opening times, suddenly not working when certain commodities rise sharply, etc.) How's the withdrawal process like? so far I made some good gains but haven't had to withdraw yet.

>>16863207
>>16863333
Also if they have enough cash on the books to keep it up and running.

Hey whyd they get crushed so hard in 2018?

>>16863238
$26 from my 26 shares of IIPR coming in today.

I'm up 13% overall since Monday. Thank you OGI and VFF. NBRV treating me well too.

not sure what to do today, so, I'll just grab some more ONTX I guess.

>>16863276
cool, i'm glad you made money.

now zoom out to the past year, how much did you make total in 2019 with gains and losses? 2018? 2017?

usually people with big gains tend to forget about the big losses as well. I'd say my 2019 was bretty guud considering it was very low risk and I gained about $21K in passive income for doing literally nothing but holding stonks

>>16863376
Hey Divi bro, bought $2000 of MO ABBV and IBM today. %5.65 yield on the buy

>>16863376
any recommendations besides $O?

>>16863367
that was when they were denied for accelerated approval

>mommy spoonfeed me

can someone explain options to me (im retarded)?

I just buy hold and sell stocks but everyone here seems to be obsessed with options trading. How does it work do you bet on the price you think it will reach?

I lost $1K on FCEL calls this week. This was the first time I’ve ever really lost money on the market. I feel shitty, but I know that’s how it goes. I’m thinking about buying some Tesla calls. What do you guys think?

I hope Target keeps dropping so I can get it a little cheaper :^) My average cost is around $90ish and I was an idiot for not buying it when it was under or around $80 a while back

> almost sold the dip
Goodness, that was close.

>>16863409
based, all three will be paying dividends for years to come. all a bit risky for reasons each but they cover their dividend easily with cashflow

>>16863410
Dogs of the DOW 2020 list all look decent, VZ, CSCO, PFE, CVX, JPM, IBM

I don't like WBA much. I like ITW, HON and SNA in industrials over MMM

Anyone of you know if NWL is something to get into? I've read they sold yet another one of their units (Playing Card Company), and I have no clue what their outlook is.

Are they doing good things or having problems?

TSM earnings pre-market tomorrow, sell some options spreads to collect free IV crush

>>16863415
Alright I’m officially interested thanks for the info. Could be worth a buy but they haven’t even slowed down since they did the direct offering...

They present at JPM tomorrow morning too.

>>16863444
I think those are some nice digits.

>>16863480
Wish I’d bought some more csco... but they won’t be doing anything big in 5g til 2021 so that’s ok

>>16863487
I love my NWL
I love it more because I bought it all around 15.
I don't know how much I would love to buy it above 20. you have to decide that.

>>16863518
the direct offering was bullish as fuck news. ONE buyer wanted 50 million worth of the stock

thats fucking bullish even if it is dilution

Does anyone know if the market is closed for nigger day??

>>16863535
If I remember correctly, yes. I'm not american but I remember getting pissed off last year

>>16863535
https://www.nyse.com/markets/hours-calendars

>buy some more ATBPF
>it dumps 7% one hour later

fuckin' Bogs

>>16863529
Why did they drop from 50+ to sub 15? Are they likely to get back to that 50? Or was that way too high in the first place?

>>16863569
>buying the double top
lel
Baghold til patient enrollment.

Man I got spooked by shit financials from NIO at 3.4 and now that shits at 4.4

>mfw I put1/3 of my stonk money into NIO when it was 3.30

SPCE IS GOING TO THE MOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwzUs1IMdyQ

>>16863570
the point is the juicy divv not the share price
buying in at a lower share price is about getting more divvy for your dollar
feels good man

>>16863110
>Kek poor bag holders...
>I told ya,
I never stated i held amrn, sorry ma'am

>>16863577
my cost avg is 0.29, recently started DCA'ing more tho

Pretty sure LCI is getting ready to pop up in the next couple weeks. Like bigly.

Based LCI.
Seems like it's slowly happening. I knew buying after it didn't go down was the right action.
>>16863608
I was actually waiting for that drop.

Gotta say I'm disappointed about this China deal. Well for starters because I was wrong (I assumed NOTHING before 2nd term), but because it means US is not decoupling from China.

>>16863611
If we close above 9.50 today than yeah, it would be pretty damn good looking for a pump.

>>16863620
And this is the first phase?

>>16863634
This is the First Phase. I don't really like not-decoupling-from-China aspect of this.

>>16863620
This trade deal is garbage because it does nothing about climate change, and doesn't force the Chinese to pay their workers a living wage of $15 per hour. Climate change and trade deals are the same thing.

>>16863648
>because it does nothing about climate change
Hopefully China pumps out more mines so we can see Australia in flames 2030.

>>16863620
>I assumed NOTHING before 2nd term
Trump needs to relieve tariff pressure off key midwest voting blocks.

>>16863620
>US is not decoupling from China
Of course the two biggest economies are always going to have a nontrivial impact on each other. Decoupling was a pipedream.

>>16863640
What did you think would happen? China is liberalising their economy more and more every year. No one can pass up on that.

>>16863640
you don't want to couple with China?

>>16862958
why

>>16863372
Where is it going anyways, seems we'll be holding bags for a while

>>16863480
What's your take on USOI and MORL? I hold both of those as of today

>>16863607
I was addressing the bagholders.
Why you tryna start shit?
>>16863648
GuaranteedReplies.jpg

>>16863669
Based
Where’s the dip?
I wanna buy back my BILI call...

>>16863669
I don't want to see United States destroyed by China.

>>16863659
holy shit long time no see Moot

>>16863684
China will never overtake USA

I bought into NIO now and hope the Chinks really want to support their countries companies. Its up 15% without even an official confirmation yet. When it hits I expect another 10.

>>16863138
SOLD TGTX AT 3

>S

>>16863693
Never's a long time.

>>16863672
IV rigosertib is in phase 3....everything else phase 2 or lower. Yeah it's gonna be a few months at least just for rigosertib.

Why the hell is Nvidia going down? Market is up, trade deal, good company etc.

>>16863620
>China deal
China and deal are both nouns.

BASED DRUMKPF!!
KEEP TALKKNG I WANT TO BUY SOME CHEAP MARVELL!!

Who's feeling that trump bump?

>>16863732
Sorry, I have tradesman IQ. Only known chopping wood in my life.

>>16863674
no idea on either. look risky and one is a covered call ETN on oil and the other is leveraged. I'm really boring/risk adverse on my investing so those wouldn't come into my purview of stocks when selecting

SPCE

>>16863729
Based Amds chads taking market share

>>16863688

>my RH meme stocks are forming a perfect bart pattern

Never thought I'd see one outside of crypto yet here I am

OGI or GORO long calls hmmmmmm

>>16863759
based oldfag

>>16863729
Amd card rumors and spec

WHY CAN'T I DO ANYTHING RIGHT

Just bought 2 leaps on Nokia.

>>16863698
im sorry anon

Just a reminder
>>16856707

The fact that 99% of you argued with the trade, is the reason you will never make it

>>16858831
can anyone please explain to me why PNC stock is down after having great earnings.....

HOLY SHIT KO

jesus this price appreciation is not sustainable but i'm never fucking selling this based company.

>>16863750
whats the reason for the big rally?

>>16863827
JPow wants you to make it

Space race is on mooncrickets!

How much will I make if I hold this till April?

>>16863804
ah but if I did that I would get Bogged instantly. Well, grats.

>>16863358
Yeah I know there are better ones, but desu it's not that terrible. I'm holding on for RH UK to see how that goes. I haven't made a withdrawal myself but they charge you if your equity is less than 10k and as far as I know it takes a couple days until you actually get the money.

>>16863785
why you lie?

new thread once this autosaged to death
>>16863864
>>16863864
>>16863864
>>16863864

>some guy kept saying wait for LCI to touch $7 then it will accelerate up
>it does
>buy at 7.90
>shoots up right after
Based, he is the real LCI guy.

Buy PINS now while you still can.
It's going to rebound so hard after earnings.

IS ACB COMING BACK WHAT SHOULD I DO

>>16863826
you could buy some puts then, bby

>>16863933
buying weed is a better investment than that worthless pennystock

Cmon NIO, please come down to like 3,5 dollars