/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16807991
Just remember not to blame Jews for Ur bad choices . U have a car - Uber driver is a good job maybe . Find out in what u're good at and do it .

>>16807991
>numbering neutral lines
thats some next-level anal faggottery, right there.
no time like the present OP, you won't go bankrupt and it can get you into other shit when quali'd. >>>/diy/ prob. give you more practical advise than these crypto crooks tho
>>16808037
>Uber driver is a good job maybe
for Uber, maybe. I'm guessing a lot of Bong going to crack down on Uber, some parts already have. Taxi Loicense Time Mate

>>16807991
this is info from another anon in a different thread about being an electrician

>>16807991
Do it. Very good money, can use your knowledge in a lot of custom side gigs like solar, van/rv electrical etc. I've done all the construction trades and electrical is max comfy

>>16808055
>more practical advise than these crypto crooks tho
I lost over 3k by falling for the TRX meme like 2 years ago

>Find out in what u're good at and do it
I'm good at fixing stuff, I had a repair store for computers and mobile phones for like a year until I gave it up over a dispute

I did web dev too before, but I'm not really into coding, it just doesn't save in my brain

>>16807991
>Should I do a 4 year electrical apprenticeship?
If you can even get into one. There is a queue. I know you brits like to queue.

>>16807991
If youre capable, sure.
Its on another level to most trades.

>>16807991
There was this loophole a while back in my country where you could go to the master exams without going through an apprenticeship first

I'm a master electrician, but I wouldn't dare wire anyone's house desu. I know all the theoretical shit but I can't get hired because I'm overqualified and underexperienced

i'm 27 and I also blew away 5 years doing stupid startup shit that never went anywhere, and I regret every second.

I work in IT now but that's another story.

>>16808097
>max comfy
everyone is saying different, that it's hard graft, I think for the first year I'm basically someones bitch right? I just carry stuff and clean up?
I've done shit jobs in the past, even unclogged residential poop pipes. but idk, am i being a little pussy? I've lived the neet life for almost 2 years now and it has ruined me

>>16808174
It all depends on the person mate. To me physical work and just doing what a guy tells me to do is "maximum comfy."

To others that might not like dumb physical work or might not stand getting orders from others, apprenticeship might be hell.

>>16808142
So what I understand with that is, electrician forums talk about employers wanting on site experience, they dont want someone who spent the 4 or 6 years in the university reading because they dont have so much hands on experience. Which is fine for me because I need money now, but I dont want some shitty dead end job.

>I work in IT now
That was my original career but being in an office fucking kills me or maybe I just had bad experiences

appreciate any other advice im still here
give me some of that juicy autistic knowledge

>>16807991
some of us are much older than you and have never worked for anyone still living with parents you should work towards what you enjoy as long as it's beneficial for others too

>>16808967
not sure what sort of apprenticeship program could qualify for it but id strongly suggest becoming an electrician for cars, i.e electric battery and drivetrain systems and what not, servicing it, maintenance.
audi rolling out the e-tron, perhaps their garages have something like that.

before we all realise, half of uk will be driving electrified cars in one way or another and there's hardly anyone capable of doing anything about them. few years training program should put you right in the middle of electric car revolution the way i see it.

spoken with a guy from cumbrian rally team, he said no ones allow to touch their electric race program cars without any qualification in case of fire for insurance reasons. and in case of fire you put them in a fucking tent and wait to burn out.

>>16807991

>4 year electrical apprenticeship

wtf is that, doesn't take 4y to learn to be a electrician, you can get a eng degree in 4y lol

t. electrical eng

also, is a good trade, you will find jobs everywhere

>>16807991
Where did you get the idea? Did you think of it yourself or did your mum suggest you become electrician? It may or may not be for you but usually if you do what your parents tell you especially mothers you end up failing and even if you do it you will probably not going to be happy. You have to find your own way anon

>>16808967
eastern yuros drove wages down a lot.

>>16809098
>in case of fire you put them in a fucking tent and wait to burn out.
true of most any electric vehicle - them batteries going on fire are not especially funny. But as noted, OP needs a basic electrician quali first, then, he can specialize, HVAC, machine controls, whatever. I thought it was three years (not 4) tho. BBC (as in Bong Broadcasting, TV loicense mate etc.- not Blacked.com) - fucking top, top firm to work for, but you need basic electrician to do near anything tech. above gofer level, usually completely unrelated jobs. Its not a bad thing to have at all, and OP sounds spark compatible desu.

>>16809146
my iq has dropped 4 points by reading this comment. hello pejeet.

>>16809098
My friend has also suggested this, do you think i could make 70k+ GBP if i was fully qualified in this? I can only see auto mechanical apprenticeships in my area. Should I be searching for auto electrical apprenticeships if they do even exist?

>>16809120
Yes, but you have no on-site experience, every job in this field asks for this. Doing an apprenticeships is a two birds one stone sort of deal when it comes to these sorts of things.

>>16809527
Thank you dude I didnt see this before I posted my last reply, so what you're saying is I should go for the most foundational electrical apprenticeship possible(become registered electrician) then branch out from there to this sort of stuff like auto electrical, lift maintenance etc. like the big boy stuff.

>>16809575
memes aside, outside of londonistan & maybe manchester, 70k+ is alot of dosh, but...
this kind of salary usually comes to someone whos highly specialised or in upper management,
and this, currently being niche that will become in high demand sooner rather than later, i cant see why not

first i'd start with basic NVQs or whatever they call them levels, so you know which one is ground, positive and negative,
then something auto mechanical as you said - they won't let anyone round their cars without that, then after that seek the path of least resistance, literally.

>>16807991
if you don't have the self control to just sit around on your ass while your investments grow, perhaps working with high current systems isn't a good fit for you

>>16808055
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>numbering neutral lines
>thats some next-level anal faggottery, right there.
>>>
If the box is open and you can trance every single wire to its original entry into fuse box, that's totally fine, I don't blame you for thinking like this. I usually assemble hager boxes and just freely just screw them in without thinking.
BUT, there often in small boxes it's hard to trace them without disassembling half of it to trace it. Now you would ask why would I want to do that. Because RCD you faggot. Get a call, RCD trippin, open a box, check breakers one by one to find who trips the rcd, find it, now good luck looking for that one blue wire you need to take out. If it's marked, you know immediately.
Putting markers on any wire except ground is never a bad thing. Never a bad thing.
>B-bu.but I never did that, never had problems, I just grab cash and never answer any call anymore.
Got load of this guy...

>>16807991
Too many electricians out there as is.

>>16809778
the one guy that seems to have actual professional knowledge on the subject and he says nothing of value for me

>>16809806
is that right then, cause i've been hearing the opposite

>>16807991
>I'm 26 and running out of time
Us 25+ people need to start an alliance. We all have to help each other make it.
As for your question, the apprenticeship will pay you as you learn so that is nice. It will continue to be an in demand job as time goes on. I recommend it.

Don't feel any shame. In this day and age, this is becoming more and more common.

>>16809827
Well it is where I live.

>>16808142
>i'm 27 and I also blew away 5 years doing stupid startup shit that never went anywhere, and I regret every second
That's what I'm doing now. But I'm not in anything that's looking to be the next Facebook. The goals are more based in reality.

>>16809849
You can call yourselves the Boomerband

>>16809613
If that's possible, then that sounds like it would be nice because you can always fall back on your foundational knowledge if you decide working on electric cars isn't what you want to do anymore.

>>16807991
Where are you located anon I am doing my apprenticeship right now. Depends on the company size if you're doing bitch work or not. Im in a small company and pretty much do the same things as the journeyman and sometimes get an extra break to get us coffees on them. Pretty comfy desu
>>16809778
Also this, not numbering neutrals is chinese brainlet tier

>>16808216
Sites are pretty basic, physical work. Take a drawing, wire from point A to B. Repeat. Extra works to get a wire from A to B, like drilling holes, putting up caps, crafting the "tracks"?( dunno how to name those U shape wire holders up on a ceiling in english), avoiding pipes, taking considerations of other communications, cutting holes for sockets, etc.
Then the easiest work is to connect everything - fuse box, if you don't know yet, you take a screw driver, few sockets and go do those, fit lights, connect other devices. Pretty much all, just from A to B. Those extra works usually take most of the time.
Other considerations - basic understanding of how wiring works, how to find problems, how to fix problems.
I bet my dick after 1 month of simple classes and just some time together with the guy who worked for at least few years, you would be able to wire whole house on yourself.
Home wiring is really basic. From A to B. But yeah, I know regulations, licenses, permits etc. I spent 3 year in that shit hole, while in my opinion 2-6 months should've been enough. "but now you can touch high voltage stuff, anon", fuck that crap, more voltage, spanned in a hand and fix shit on lines and pray control center doesn't turn a line on accident, doesn't matter the weather, you will be in a casket up in a tower changing insulator on 10kV line while rain pours on you, just because it must be done. It's worst on winters.
So why they want site experience from you? They don't want to stand there and show you how a drill works, what type of crown you have to use, to cut a hole, they don't want to tell you how much and what wire you have to use, how to assemble anything... etc.
A is fuse box. B is a device, socket, lights.