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lets talk about monero. specifically what monero holders think about zec and the new zfund proposal

>> No.16615512

>>16615505
zcash is not even private, lol.

yes, there is one coin that will battle Monero, but it is not zcash and I won't shill it to you plebs here.

>> No.16615530

>>16615505

Monero has already won as the defacto privacy coin. zcash isn't even accepted in any darknetmarkets that I can think of. The price today is lower than 2016 and the massive inflation means it will continue to tank/underperform. what is even the point?

>> No.16615629

>>16615530
you monero fags don't get it. dark net markets aren't the target audience. big money movers who want to shield specific transactions is the target audience. there's a reason this is the only privacy coin on Gemini and Coinbase....the two most legit exchanges in crypto that are FDIC insured.

>> No.16615732

>>16615530
monero isn't accepted in many darknet markets either. Analysis shows that 95% of darknet volume is made up by BTC transactions. So 5% for XMR. Therefore the actual use of XMR is tiny.

>> No.16616994

>>16615732
>Therefore the actual use of XMR is tiny.
this is true because of how retarded most darknet customers are. they can't figure out how to use XMR, hell half of them literally just buy BTC on coinbase and send it directly to the market without tumbling.

>> No.16617149

>>16615732
What darknet markets even exist anymore? Is it even a big industry still?

>> No.16617160

>>16617149
of course, but the scene got kicked off reddit so you don't hear about it as much anymore. the community moved to dreaddit, which is the TOR reddit alternative

>> No.16617226

>>16615732
The tide is starting to turn anon. Whenever people bring up privacy monero is recommend. Monero is only 5 years old but it has an established grass roots community that understands the tech. Future of crypto will be related to privacy. It’s obvious which coin will benefit from this.

>> No.16617231

>>16615629
The reason is that it's backdoored unlike Monero

>> No.16618087

>>16615512
yes you will

>> No.16618123

>>16616994
This, but a lot of vendors are making the switch to monero or at least accepting it since it's more secure for them.I think in a year or two it'll be used more than BTC on dnms

>> No.16618132

>>16615505
Zcash is funded by Amazon and the US government. Pass.

>> No.16618218

I'm only speculating on the price so I can cash iut to fiat down the line, so I have both. ZEC because it's on normiebase and XMR because I hope that actual privacy might be a legitimate use case one day.

>> No.16618366
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16618366

>>16617231
This is FUD. The seed is generated with a multiparty computation. Monero is a glorified mixer which only provides plausible deniability. If all the other sigs in the ring are known (i.e. exchange wallets) then your 'privacy' is a meme. Zcash has actual confidentiality
https://z.cash/technology/paramgen/#sapling-mpc
>>16618132
bullish
>>16618123
>>16617226
>>16615732
>>16615530
Markets only care about LIQUIDITY, that's why they mostly use BTC. When ETH pumped, they used ETH. When the illuminati pump Zcash, they will use Zcash

>> No.16618417

>>16618366
>Markets only care about LIQUIDITY,
Not true privacy is incredibly important for these sort of sites especially for clients/vendors. It's the difference between getting vanned and bring able to continue operating

>> No.16618486

>>16618417
Both Zcash and XMR have objectively better privacy than BTC, yet BTC is still the go-to, because it's most liquid.

And I fogrot to mention, the only reason XMR achieved ANY liquidity is because AlphaBay bought up a bunch and then listed it, which is scam-tier shenanigans. Zcash has major academic backing, major funding, has the same supply as BTC and it's fucking thirty dollars. This is the most obvious buy ever. XMR is also worth a hodl, but it's 4x the mcap of Z

>> No.16618624

>>16618486
>a shillfag who unironically called Monero a "glorified mixer".

>> No.16618703

>>16618624
I don't think you understand how ring signatures work. You present no arguments.

>> No.16618958

>>16618624
Hello? Mr. Moneronigger? You're not gonna do any damage control? It's almost like you don't know what the fuck you're talking about