/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16597149
Got 10oz coming here to Bongland. Small amount I know, but you have to start somewhere.

>>16597175
In started with 5oz a while back. Good for you for getting started. Currently at 20oz and my wife is getting me another 5 for Christmas. Slow, but steady. Going to try saving up in future for larger orders rather than small and frequent. Cuts down on premiums.

Are you guys investing in PMs or are you simply using them as a store of value?

>>16597403
Personally, I’m doing it as a store of value. I know there’ll be an economic crash eventually and that should send PMs up. Silver also has great industrial usage now compared to previously. For both of those reasons, it could be a good investment.

>>16597293
Thanks. Yeah that's a good idea. I want to just go all in with a monster box before Brexit, but I really don't have the money for it.

>>16597403
Bit of both I think, It's always going to have value, and might become more valuable, but I don't imagine the prices will ever plummet and stay there.

>>16597403
I consider gold and silver to be both investments and stores of value. Gold is probably a better store of value while silver has a greater upside

>>16597843
Are you guys basing this off of past performance or boomer tier conspiracy theories about a collapse?
How many here stack metals and food?

>>16597149
How do you sell it when it hits $100 an ounce?

Silverchads rise up!

>>16597874
Same way you sell at $17 an ounce.

>>16597403
They are fundamentally a store of value. In the current fucked up broken economy they also serve as a long-term investment and insurance against inevitable inflation.

As far as purchasing power goes... In the middle ages 1 oz of gold would buy you a very nice suit. A hundred years ago 1 oz of gold would buy you a very nice suit. Today 1 oz of gold will buy you a very nice suit. There will be spikes above the mean, and such a spike is definitely coming, but in the long run the purchasing power of gold has always remained steady.

>>16597863
A lot of people here stack silver because of its use as a conductor and the potential for electric vehicles to be prevalent in the future.
Others stack for financial collapse (not SHTF necessarily).
Honestly, silver kinda awkwardly straddles the line between being a hedge against the market and being tied to the market.

>>16598431
>A lot of people here stack silver because of its use as a conductor and the potential for electric vehicles to be prevalent in the future.
This is one of my main reasons, they are also widely used in solar panels; as is cobalt.
Right now, silver could easily see an increase to $30+.

>>16598708
I think you're being too conservative. Silver already topped $50 in 2011. We've had 8-9 years of inflation since then and significantly higher demand now. Not to mentioned the ratio of ounces mined is narrowing and is now approximately 9 oz silver mined for every 1 ounce of gold, yet the price ratio is like 85:1. That can't keep up. Expect triple digit silver in the next 5-10 years

>>16597403
Both, for reasons others have stated. If prices go up during a crash, then I'll be rich, if not, then it's good to have something that's not affected by inflation the same way fiat is.

How easy would it be to sneak 500oz of silver through customs after Brexit to avoid paying VAT? Obviously only possible with a vehicle.

>>16597293
You better treat her well. No one ever gets me shit!!!!

>>16599955
You can probably fit around 20 ounces up your ass. You do the math for how many trips it would take.

>>16600084
philharmonics are largest diameter right?

>>16600111
I don't know, I don't collect coins made by homosexual nigger lovers.

>>16598025
Based Mike Maloney

>>16598025
Thanks for this. Very informative

>>16597403
Yes, I'm expecting somewhere along 100x increase in price or spending power at some point in the next financial crisis, a 10x is pretty much guaranteed though.

>>16597403
Neither. Swing trade on gold miners. The price action on gold is coiling up tight. It'll jump on index weakness. The S&P et al. do not need to crash or anything, I just need some uncertainty and fear worming its way through the markets.

>>16600333
>10x
If gold and silver go 10x within the next 10 years, I'll literally become a millionaire and live the rest of my financially free life laughing at Cryptofags

>>16600333
Checked. If I start now will I have time to build up a millionaire making stack by the time of the crisis?

>>16601859
Hopefully. Some tripfag was saying we have until 2023-24ish. No one really knows except the (((banks))). I wouldn't wait to start though.

How many oz for millionaire stack?

>>16600084
Would give The Queen's Beast a whole new meaning

Can we start making shiny rocks stocks threads? We could actually make some money if we did research in companies. I have done some myself I’d like to trade ideas.

>>16602103
1500oz silver will be you an average house

>>16602312
Yeah invest in mining companies and be left with the shaft when they take all the gold. Smart goy.

>>16602471
wtf i have 75 oz of silver, i'm never going to make it

>>16602312
The main large cap north american gold miners are Newmont Goldcorp (NEM), Barrick (GOLD), and Kirkland Lake (KL), and Freeport-McMoRan (FCX). When trading gold mining stocks under the thinking that the gold benchmark will rise, make sure you are selecting companies that trade roughly in correlation with the benchmark. If it has limited or zero correlation with the benchmark, that's not going to be a gold related trade regardless of the sector the company is involved. Keep in mind that small and mid cap gold mining companies can rocket up fast (100%+) if the benchmark is in a rising trend. However, there is the standard increased risk involved with trading small/mid caps.

>>16597149
platinum is the big brain buy right now, ery undervalued compared to gold, while rarer and more useful. Recently tested historical minima and is already starting upward trajectory from there, great time to get in

>>16602802
What are its uses? I have 2 oz just for diversification purposes

>>16602833
main use is as a catalyst for chemical reactions, biggest use is in emission filters in cars i think that accounts for almost half the industry demand of platinum, and its also why after the vw emission scandal the price of platinum tanked more than it should have, cause people thought somehow industrial demand might tank after that but industrial demand has actually remained petty stable so i think the price should rebound now.
Remember that platinum has a super limited supply, you can fit all the platinum on earth in a big fridge, and something crazy like 90% of production is one mine in south africa. This means price can fluctuate quite a bit, so you can play on the volatility, buy when its undervalued like now, and sell after it overtakes gold again.
I think also from the jewlry market we might see increased demand now, cause most normies know platinum is rarer and seen as more valuable than gold, so jewelries sell platinum jewelry for higher prices than gold, but platinum is currently cheaper than gold so in that sector they might stack up on it now and push more for platinum jewelry since they'd have the highest margin they could get on that historically

>>16602945
This is some good info, thanks Anon! Thoughts on palladium?

>>16602471
Lmfao that will get you a whole neighborhood.
>>16602617
Anywhere from 50-100 oz + should be make it territory, it just depends what lifestyle you want.

>>16602802
Plat was fucking $811 about a month ago. Picked up an ounce then, wish I had got more.

>>16603139
50-100 oz? fuck yeah. i don't have expensive tastes, just want some land to garden, smoke weed, read, play vidya, and hang out with my gf and make a family

>>16603202
Just keep stacking, try and get as much as you can. Don't set a specific goal, the only goal you should set is : just a little more.

>>16603202
D-don't we all

>>16603227
i was aiming for 500 and then seeing where i'm at from there. i'm kind of poor compared to other anons here. should i try to get some gold?

>>16597874
This is 150 years in the future don't worry about it.

>>16602745
Should I weight my juniors with a mid cap or large cap? Or for a more safe investment a large cap with a few mid caps? What should my portfolio be comprised of how many stocks for say $30k plus

>>16603557
Adjust your position size relative to the volatility of the individual stock. If the goal is betting on the price of gold, I suggest a 2x or 3x gold ETF and a couple large caps that pay a dividend. You can bet on the small miners but don't put a lot of money on them. One bad news story and they can drop hard.

>>16603609
Also, precious metals should never be 100% of your portfolio.

>>16597403
Store of value. I just want something that isn't going to be hyperinflated and won't fluctuate 20% on the yearly.

>>16603609
Why pay the commission on an etf when you can just buy the miners yourself. I’ll never understand that. GLD has a .40% expense ratio. Lol that’s absurd.

>>16603139
If 1500 can buy a neighborhood then I'll be able to buy a small nation

>>16597149
silver all ze way

>>16597149
>thecoinshoppe.ca

excuse me for being new to this stuff, but what is the point of buying coins when they're way overpriced for the amount of gold they contain?

>>16603950
>thecoinshoppe
Most of those are gimmicks use silvergoldbull.ca if in Canada, unless a fellow leaf has a better suggestion?

>>16603264
Yes try and get both, 1 oz of gold for every 100 oz of silver is a good start.

hm

Shiny rocks will never explode

>>16598025
I think I could sell that armpit for a lot more than a ounce of gold.....I think we know what the real investment should be....

>>16598431
>>16598708
If silver moons it will probably be only due to purchases of financial nature. Silver use in solar cells is decreasing and will probably keep decreasing as technology improves.

Take it easy when stacking Gold/Silver, lads.

Think of it as a savings account (fuck the banks and their shit rates). I buy 10oz a check. It's fun watching your stack grow.

.t 110oz Silver owner.

>>16603998
PMX or globalBullion also good reputable online dealers in Canada.

>Palladium $1,927.60
What the fuck happen? I haven't payed attention to metals in a while, how did it get up this high?

>>16597874
Sell to any coin shop for close to spot. $100/ozt might sound good now but that might translate to $7/loaf of bread and $15/gal of gas.

>>16602802
Kicking myself for not buying more palladium years ago when it was $200/oz. Not making the same mistake with platinum this time around.

>>16603264
85 ounces of silver buys you 1 oz of gold. That is an incredibly high ratio so imo stick with silver for the time being. When that drops to 50:1 then pick up gold.

>>16597175
Do not sell yourself short anon. 10oz is a fine start, hell I started with just one oz bar of silver but you will slowly build it up. One of the best things to do is to treat it like you're building a treasure chest and add some fun diversity to it. Hell I have a one pound bar of titanium I treat as a coaster.

Currently at:
80oz of silver
Just a 1/10oz gold coin
1 pound of titanium and a5oz cube
4 pounds of copper and a 10oz cube
2oz cube of magnesium
10oz cube of iron
7oz cube of zirconium
and a bunch of cheap gems, rings, coins, 2 dollar bills, and pearls.

Just have fun anon.

>>16604847
>Kicking myself for not buying more palladium years ago when it was $200/oz
Ha that's nothing. I known about bitcoin when it was a dollar. Was thinking of buying a 100 dollars worth just for shits and giggles but decided against since what the hell was I going to do with it when you just used it to buy illegal shit online.

Britfags, where do you all buy your coins domestically and abroad? Celtic Gold seems to be one of the best places to get it from because of the VAT-free silver.

>>16604511
>Think of it as a savings account (fuck the banks and their shit rates)
So much this, I've saved up tens of thousands of pounds on my savings account, for what? Pathetic 9£ a month, then I got an email that my rates will be lowered even more due to Mr Goldstein running out of money to buy Tesla Cybertruck to his whole family. This was the final straw. I've left myself a bit of paper for an emergency fund, the rest of it went into mostly gold and a bit of silver. I'm done with banks, let them all burn in the next crisis.

>>16605267
goldsilver.be. 3 day delivery through FedEx (costs £25 a time or you can combine shipping and just pay for your delivery fee on the first and ship everything in one at that rate), plus they've got a bunch of stuff you don't generally find on cheaper European sites.

I've heard the customer service is lacking but I've never had to deal with them.

>>16604860
50:1 is perfect to me. 50 Silver Eagles to 1 Gold Eagle.

Bumping the best thread on /biz/

The silver general/precious metal general threads are getting more popular and more consistent. It’s beautiful. I love crypto, but it dominates the whole board because of all the shitcoins being shilled and the FUD that goes on.

it apocalypse that shit will be confiscated and selling made illegal lol, besides if it pops on some debt crisis shit, there's no way you'll be able to sell it even near the spot price. But yes as a long long (like 50y in the future) store of value.

and anyway it isnt nearly as profitable as just buying s&p, chart speaks for itself

>>16606045
>>16606052
Full disclosure, silver/gold/other holder here. Facts are just facts.

>>16604825
yeah, sure, just go to coin shop with $5000 in pm just like ten more guys just like you

>>16606166
Exit Strategy is often overlooked and will be the doom of many Silverchads. You need to KNOW exactly where to sell large amounts of gold and silver when the time is right. I'm lucky enough to be a Brit, so for me it's as simple as calling the Royal Mint of her Majesty. I shudder to imagine if my wealth was up to some obese Pawn Shop owner.

>>16601947
Decent. I've only got 10oz right now but feel like it's a good start. I'll save up more before buying next time though, (((shipping))) really cuts into potential profits.

>>16605036
Thanks mate, I'll definitely be doing that, only the markup on the non-precious ingots can be a bit stupid, though i know they can be a bit of fun. I do have a plan to make (or buy) a proper chest to put it all in. I never could get into the crypto crowd but everyone in this general has been very helpful from the beginning, so thanks to you lot for that.

>>16605267
I've just got mine from silver to go, because the shipping was £14 so on small amounts works out better, despite the higher premiums.

>>16606181
but isnt there a risk they offer you a lower (really lower) price for it?

>>16606282
Well if the price is high and they offer low, then no cunt sells his stack, they'll have to cave eventually and at least offer something profitable to us.

>>16606282
If we're talking about the Financial Crisis situation, then no. We will get the current spot price, especially if the prices were climbing up for months before that.

>>16597149
I just like shiny rock

>>16597149
If yall are still looking for a good christmas present, check out https://mene.com
They sell pure 24k gold or 24k platinum "investment grade" jewelry adding a ~20% markup on spot price compared to regular jewelries that sell lower karat and sell at multiple times the spot price, so you can make a gift that's also an investment.

There used to be a trick to get gold and platinum for free from them (you could easily get a 100$ credit but they stopped that bug now), but you can still easily get plenty discounts with referrals, 5$ per referral up to 25$ (eg. if you register at my link Mene.com/invite/2MavfI you'll start with 5$ credit), then they have a christmas quiz that gives you a 10% discount if you pass it, and they also give you discount on your anniversary, so overall you can basically buy gold/platinum jewelry at spot price, to use as a store of value. They even have a nice interface where you can track your current investment value, like a fund. I swear im not paid by them, just think it's a cool idea to put regular jewelries with 500% markups out of business

>>16606930
I remember this getting posted a while ago, thanks for the reminder. Don't supposes it works for Bongs after you factor in shipping etc. does it?

>>16606961
hm yea i think shipping cost to europe is more, since they use somewhat expensive insured shipping, so yea that's gonna set you back a bit.
Though if you consider you're not just buying the bare metal but some jewelry people put some work on, i guess it can be still a very fair price compared to other gift ideas where you're basically just throwing money away.
I know you can sometime find people reselling the stuff on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Pmsforsale/search/?q=mene&restrict_sr=1&sort=new
but i've never tried buying from there

>>16606930
Investment jewelry... interesting concept. In case of gold and silver confiscation, you could keep these. But I don't think the governments will ever confiscate gold and silver again. Too many powerful people are stacking tons of precious metals, you don't want to upset these who put you in the position of power.

>>16607034
yea if you're interested they have more info here https://mene.com/about
I ordered my first 24k platinum piece a few days ago, supposed to arrive today, pretty happy with the experience so far, they have a pretty nice website for such a young company, i registered with 5 different fake emails using my own referral link and got 25$ credit.

>>16604319
Hi IQ right here

Am retard, are you lads buying PMs in physical so you hide it around / store it in a bank safe or do you buy it on the online market, whatever you call it. I'm my country there's only a few gold banks and the prices are sucky so I'm guessing I should invest online. Are there any risks I should be aware of?

>>16607776
Keep it in a safe at your own house you dummy. The only reason to get a deposit box at the bank is if you are dealing with quantities that are too large to store in your home. The fees for storing gold professionally far outweigh the benefit for small-time investors.

>>16607776
If you don't hold it you don't own it. Simple as.

>>16607815
What about online markets? Isn't that the best choice? Best price and I don't even need to take care of it. Or am I missing something? I don't want my family to know I'm spending so much money on shiny metals.

>>16607851
If shit hits the fan, how do you expect to get your metals in a timely fashion? If you don't hold it, you don't own it.

>I don't want my family to know I'm spending so much money on shiny metals.

It's your fucking money, who cares what they think.

>>16607848
But don't anons here already invest in various PMs online, what's the worst that can happen to them?

>>16607863
Heh I guess. I'm just paranoid someone might break in and steal a bunch of shit and also find my metals. Guess I should own a hidden safe first.

>>16607867
>what's the worst that can happen to them?
They can cease to exist, or "your" precious metal can be liquidated if the company decides to sell more metal than they actually possess.
If you want physical bars/coins, owning it yourself is the only way to go. If you want to invest in the industry go for mining stocks.

Goldchads rise up!

>>16607890
Right, I was thinking about investing in miners, makes sense, thanks anon.

>>16607889
>Guess I should own a hidden safe first.

Yea no shit. That's why I fucking suggested that in my first response. Get a fire/waterproof safe and keep your fucking mouth shut about it then you're good. Stacking metal is literally one of the easiest and most stress free investments there is.

>>16607910
Miners and metals are entirely different products and you should think long and hard about which is more suited for your portfolio.

>>16607889
Watch "Lockpickinglawyer" on Youtube, not all safes are, well, safe. The best thing you can do is not brag about it. If no one knows you have metals, no one will want to steal them.

>>16607889
I reckon a safe should be the final obstacle between a thief and your metal, rather than the only one. Consider lifting a floorboard and putting your safe under it, or putting it inside an internal wall, with a large cupboard or the like in front of it. Better that they don't know where it is at all. If you had a massive stack you could even have a normal safe to be opened in case of your premature death, with a sealed envelope with a letter detailing the location of your stack for your family to find. I've not done this, just floating ideas.

>>16607924
>>16607962
Yeah, but what if I'm a young bum living with parents and just want to invest in PMs and gold especially in cases it explodes when SHTF? I don't think I can convince my old folks any of this shit, best I could do is buy a small safe and hide it under my bed.

>>16597149
Looking to get started buying a 10oz bars of silver bar every paycheck. Is it better to buy online, a physical store, or some other means?

>>16601859
Yes, the economy is beating expectations which I think would mean PM prices would be low. When shit hits the fan is when PM prices rise. So load up now while times are sunny

>>16608000
Just hide it in your drawer or under your bed then. Unless you live in Caracas or Baghdad or some absolute shithole, what are the odds of random people just breaking in to look for valuables?

>>16608000
Lift up a floorboard and put it there, or something like that. A safe is really quite obvious I think, it leads to questions like 'what's in there?' When you really don't want any at all. And if you're skint with only say, 100 quid to spend then I'd put it into more metal rather than a safe. They come in really secure tubes and take up hardly any space, just run some tape around the seam if you're worried and you're sorted. Stick them somewhere hidden and that's that.

>>16608000
>, best I could do is buy a small safe and hide it under my bed.
Then do that, it's what I do. You don't need Fort Knox level security to keep your metal safe. If putting your metal in a lockbox under your bed isn't safe enough for you then probably should focus on moving to a better location first anyway.
>I don't think I can convince my old folks any of this shit
You're a grown man. Your parents do not have the ability or right to dictate what you do with your money aside from asking for bills/groceries. Get this through your head. You do not need them to approve of your financial decisions, do you understand?

>>16608035
>>16608039
Thanks, guess it's time to look for fair priced gold in my corrupt shithole.
>what are the odds of random people just breaking in to look for valuables?
Negligible really, I'm just paranoid.

>>16608053
I mean't I can't convince my parents to install an actual hidden safe, like in a wall or something. I can buy a lockbox and put my shit there, it's what I'll probably do.

Guess what came with the mail today

>>16608182

>>16608182
Based.

Aside from the '1000oz silver' How much gold should we aim for? And how much in other goods? I've thought about mammoth tusks, for example, but they're just getting more and more available with global warming exposing them.

>>16608182
>>16608194
Fucking nice!

>>16607893
Came today, I have high hopes for that Rat coin. It's a beginning of the new Chinese Lunar Cycle, if some autistic collector sperg will want a full Set 10 years from now, he's gonna have to buy it from me for a small fortune.

Remember Anons, gold and silver are the only real wealth.

>>16608194
Based and Silverpilled, enjoy your God's Money.

What is the plan for selling post recession? Will dealers be buying at times X prices? Will every stacker be rushing to liquidate? I need a realistic scenario here.

Is this a good idea or am I looking to get jewed?
https://www.goldmoney.com/

>>16608239
Depends where are you from, Anon. If you're from a civilized country, it will be much easier. If you're from Venezuela-like country, you better don't sell at all.

>>16608344
>https://www.goldmoney.com/
jewed

>>16608239
I need to know this as well

O O F

>>16608473
When it finally blows, we'll have 1oz silver for $500 minimum. Juicy times ahead, unless the Jews already have a plan how to fuck everyone up.

>>16608473
dis legit?? what are the implications of this, spoonfeed my low IQ ass please

>>16608239
>every stacker be rushing to liquidate
I hope so. Time to buy.

>>16608490
>Bubble bursts, silver is 500$ an oz
>hey go-go-guys
>We have developed the tecnology to mine asteroids and our first target will be asteroid 6000000 which is a 99% silver asteroid with a bazillion tonnes
>Silver plummets
>Bankers buy all the silver they can until this bubble bursts aswell when people realize its bullshit

They're gonna pull a Waterloo Rothschild style

>>16608468
US: You have more Pawn Shops than anywhere else on the planet. Start googling and look for a potential client who would buy larger quantities. Mints are a good start, gonna be harder with private business owners. If the prices of gold and silver climb for half a year, no one is gonna hold, they'll accept the Bull Run as it is and it shouldn't be difficult to sell.

Western Europe: Less Pawn Shops, it's gonna be difficult. Make sure you check your country's Mints. Make sure they will always buy, if not, God help you.

Eastern Europe: You are fucked, I don't think I'd stack if I was unfortunate enough to live in one of these countries. The only ones with gold and silver in your country are corrupted politicians who will take your fortune from you anyway.

UK: Lots of Antique Stores, quite a lot of Pawn Shops, but the best place to sell in the UK is the Royal Mint. If they keep buying as the bull run continues, you're gonna be absolutely gucci.

Middle East: Jihad upon you and all your family.

Asia: I honestly have no idea.

Australia: Since they recognize the Monarch of England, Australian Royal Mint seems like a way to go.

South America: Don't sell. In Venezuela you can feed a family of 4 for a few months with a single Silver Eagle. 1oz of gold gets you a house.

Discuss?

>>16608473
The banking cartel use 5 trillion dollars in derivatives and naked shorts to suppress a physical market of only 17 billion dollars of supply. Absolutely scandalous

>>16608537
Asteroid mining is a meme, Anon. Not gonna happen in at least 200 years. When it finally happens, companies realize they were tricked by the Jews. You can't mine something that's not there. Asteroids are mostly worthless rocks and water. If you mine them, it's gonna cost a fortune, wouldn't be profitable. If you HAVE TO mine them, it's gonna cost a fortune and that spikes the prices to the new moon.

>>16608538
Oh fuck, well maybe I should stack anyway and travel with my stack to sell it elsewhere? Could I even travel with it? (I'm guessing not)

>>16608572
You can try to travel with it, but probably when your country's border guards realize what you're leaving with, they won't let you. In some countries only the richest are allowed to own real money. Little maggots like us will face confiscation and prison for trying to get rich. Emigrate forever, then start stacking maybe?

>>16608584
Maybe it's due time for me to accept local customs and just become a criminal, though my incompetent dumb ass will just get me straight to jail. Fucking wish I could scarface out of mediocrity.

>>16608538
You expect to deal with PMs in a fucking pawnshop? If the guy behind the counter doesn’t rob you the nigger selling a stolen bike will.

>>16608619
then how would one sell, please give me hope

>>16608655
That’s what I came here to find out. I don’t stack. I figured people who did would have an answer

>>16608682
Bullion dealers will not fucking rob their customers

>>16608655
>>16608682
You can sell them where everybody buys them online dealers.

>>16608538
>Eastern Europe: You are fucked
Eastern Europe isn't some banana republic, Anon.

>>16609061
Try ordering gold online in larger quantities. You'll get a knock on your door the next morning, and it's not going to be any UPS or FedEx courier.

>>16608194
I got a time of those two weeks ago, a thought I'm not really a fan of the look of perth mint kangaroos.

>>16597149
Got pic related email today. Figured I'd go on ebay and pick something up for under spot. Turns out not only are silver prices on ebay stupid high, you cant apply discount codes to coins or bullion. GAY.

>>16597149
Lads, I've heard 1kg+ bars are difficult to liquidate, especially at a decent price. This is because they can contain lead cores. Does anyone have any experience about that?

>>16609250
Fake bars contain lead cores, but if you buy from trusted sources, that's not a problem. And yes, it is a bit difficult to sell them, they need to be drilled a few times to check what's inside. Save yourself any potential headaches and just buy small bars and coins.
I had a chance few months ago to buy 5kg of Silver at spot price, but decided it's not worth the pain in the ass I'd have to endure in the future when the time comes to sell it.

the exploration deal between hochschild mining and mirasol resources in regards to the indra project in chile went bust today.
a bad day for mining stocks i guess.

>>16609291
Fuck the stocks, I'm in in for the shiny metal. The less reliable mines, the better for old-time stackers.

>>16606181
Not every person in the u.s. lives in a small hick country town. It's quite easy to sell large amounts in bigger cities.

How big is everyone's stack?

>>16609285
OK. The bulk discount was really tempting me but I'll keep it simple.

>>16609869
Up to...
6 oz gold
250 oz silver
1 oz platinum

I hope the USD collapse is staved off until 2021 so I can stack more

>>16610033
Checked, pretty much the same stack as me except I gots 7.5oz gold.

>>16610033
And desu I think with that stack alone you're in the top 2%

>>16609869
I have twice my own weight in silver

>>16610075
Big if American.

>>16602312
Second this. I have questions.

>>16609869
53 oz (20 x 1 oz coins, 1 x 1 oz bar, as well as a 1 kilo coin, which is about 32 oz). I suppose I will get more for christmas. Not very much, but I just started stacking though.

>>16610033
Based

>>16597863
I buy silver way more than gold because it's cheaper with cash, I receive free food at the food banks because they give away canned goods that last long and it's free. Food banks are great.

Also I wanted to make a point to all anons, more importantly than your metal is the security In front of your metal. BYOB(BE YOUR OWN BANK)

>>16599955
Nigga that's like 30 pounds(lbs) bro.

>>16600111
No, to my knowledge the largest diaemeter is the silver eagles

>>16610384
Yeah, I meant in a vehicle going through the tunnel or something, not carrying it on a plane.

>>16610347
BASED. I always go to markets and buy dented tinned cans 10 years out of date for pennies and suffer no harm at all. So you're well in with your scheme.

>>16609869
About 2000 ounces in silver coins and two five kg bars of silver. One ounce of gold. Might start buying platinum

>>16610075
Based and will make it if true. But it's not true. I'm certain I have the biggest stack in biz on the individual level.

>>16610415
> almost 70 kilograms of pure silver
Dis Anon gonna make it

>>16598025
I should start making nice suits

>>16610415
You need more gold.

>>16603613
Lol silver is over %50 of my portfolio ALONE

>>16610415
Also, 10 kilo more and we could cast a 1:1 silver statue of me. Is this how Pharaohs felt like? Based

>>16605139
This. I was so careless. Same shit when litecoin came out. I'm not going to get left in the dust this time, even if I have to hodl till death.

>>16610033
I want to reach at least 100oz by end of 2020, this is from 10oz. I'm trying to some at a ridiculous premium to fund the purchase of more, worth a try.

>>16608182
BRÀAAAP. SNIIIF

>>16609869

118 oz silver
0.86 oz gold

Target for this year has been 100oz silver and 1oz gold so literally 1 gold coin away.
Target for next year its going to be investing in my business anything spare I'll get 1kg silver bars and or bitcorn.

>>16608756
Correct. Buy generics from online, sell back to them when ath. I dont mind paying shipping if gains are worth it.

>>16597149
Silver for a long term savings account and crypto for the AAAahHHHAaaHHs

>>16597149
About to make first large silver purchase. Does it matter if I get coins or bars or is it purely aesthetic?

>>16609869
23 ounces of gold and closing in on 300 of silver.

>>16610830
Also 6.5 of platinum

>>16610766
Big bars have lowest premium if you are buying a lot, otherwise no difference.

>>16610688
Beautiful portfolio and dubs

>>16610830
How long have you been stacking or are you just rich?

>>16610830
Nice. Build that stack of silver up. At these historic low prices you should have 10X that.

>>16610830
>34,000+ dollars worth in gold alone
I envy you ngl

>>16597175
Stop buying Boomer rocks you idiots. They will collapse in value. Bitcoin is all we need for money. The rest will be industrial metal. Gold will be $100 an oz, silver $8 an oz meanwhile btc will be in the millions per coin

>>16611605
>thisfuckingguy.jpeg

>>16610830
You need more silver.

>>16597149
So what is the consensus make it stack? 1000oz silver + 10oz gold ?

>>16611826
Pretty much, yes. Might add a bit more gold.

>>16611353
Started in 2001

>>16610466
The crazy thing is that I only just started earning good money, most of that was stacked with neet bucks.

I should be able to up my stacking to 2 kilos a month. If prices stay at currency prices for 5 more years I should definitely clear the 150kg of pure silver mark.

>>16597149
Another 50oz en route with a 200oz order pending for Jan 1st. Feels good.

>>16609250
Get it tested using a scanning machine type thing that tells you exactly what the content is. I think it either does an x-ray or uses ultrasound or something like that.

>>16612223
How can you afford that?

>>16610466
Why not cast it into the shape of your erection and sell it as a sex toy to horny traps?

>>16612380
Because silver stinks and would make homosexuals genitals more stinky than they already are.

>>16612377
Student in Britbongistan and work a night job that requires nothing of me but turning up and doing my uni work. Live cheap, stack hard, prolly gonna do it till I grad so I'm comfy.

>>16609869
I started about 1-2 months ago, 75 ounces of silver coins so far.

>>16609869
I started about 1-2 months ago, 75 ounces of silver coins so far.

>>16608000
As lockpickinglawyer anon states, the mini-safes and such are really easy for turbo thieves to crack. You'll want multiple layers of defenses.

>>16612555
Good job on your diligence, I still feel like you're not telling the full truth.

>>16612852
That's literally it. I mean full disclosure I live with my gf and she handles the shopping, but all in I have about £20k minimum that I can put away a year.

I just forego the usual student life, most of them go out to shit clubs on a weekday and wonder why they're always flat broke.

>>16609869
4oz gold 430 oz silver

I am concerned about the graph anon posted above showing the total traded silver being so much higher than physical.

I do not have a physical stack. I have 300 shares of Aberdeen silver (SIVR) and the equivalent of an oz of gold and platinum in my 401k.

Am I fucked anons?

>>16611605
why would they collapse in value this hard? especially gold. there has been no time in history where gold was even closely this cheap. not even a day.

>>16611605
If anything, the future of currency is a gold-backed crypto. Both will represent true wealth. But sadly, by Crypto I don’t mean BitCoin, it will be something else. Something more controlled by those who are in the positions of power.

So yeah, buy shiny rocks and wait for that new, global, Israel-approved crypto.

>>16613109
He is retarded. He isn't able to buy gold, therefore shittalk it.

>>16612555
Which uni lad?

>>16612985
Seems like you are mayne, but don't take my word for it I just learned this myself. Hopeully another anon responds to you.

In EU silver is taxed unlike gold and in my country it's 25% fking percent. Is it worth it or do I rather invest in CFD silver? Or will I get memed because of this >>16608473 ?

>>16614632
cfd is a meme, you dont own shit, also the holders may bail out anytime and you wont get shit

>>16614632
I don't understand how they can get away with this.

>>16614695
cfd is betting against the broker, guess who will win

>>16614697
Cause it's stinky smelly fking EU, but I guess if it weren't for it my country would also tax gold and then it would be twice as gay. Anyway, I guess I should buy silver despite the tax, if it really jumps it will shit on it's original price + tax many times.

What was that??????

>>16614775
Nothing, silver does this sometimes. Market prices are 100% controlled and won't be allowed to go up until the Jews are ready.

>>16614632
Same here bro, either you partake in the Estonian Silver Delivery Scheme (a lot of headache, but you can look it up) or you'll have to pay that tax. It's a way for the Jews to discourage people from stacking silver, they also know most people can't afford to stack gold. Thus they hope you will stack nothing at all and be a slave of their paper money.
I'd stack gold if I were you. Fuck the banks. If you can afford to buy 1oz golden coin every few months or 1/4oz every month, go for it. It's just the fact that we all hope silver will grow in higher multiplies than gold in the future. Both will guarantee income over a period of time, but it's just easier with cheap silver.

Ultimately it's up to you, if you want silver, then don't let 25% of 15€ stop you from profiting in the future. Dream scenario is 1oz silver for +100€ anyway...

>>16614929
I've set myself a plan of 100 oz by 2022. All tailored to my uni ''''income''''. Will I miss the triple figures silver if I'm this slow with it?

the beautiful thing about PMs is no matter which way the markets swings, it a win win situation

>>16614980
Nobody knows when the next market crash is going to happen and what will be the effects of it. Keep calm and stack on, don't let your life suffer because of that, buy as much as you can safely afford and put it on the side. It can be a long game, but I just honestly don't see any other options for our generation than precious metals bull run. This is the only way for me to get a house, mortgage is not an option with these rates and I'd rather stack metals than be a slave of some jewish mortgage company for the next 20 years.

>>16614929
The Jewish manipulation has actually helped me make money in the mining shares. I buy the shares after a smackdown, sell when I'm in the money five to ten percent, then wait for the next smack down to buy in again. It's so predictable.

>>16612371
I've heard that it can't penetrate the 5kgs.

I tend to support sound money and deflation, but wouldn't gold just destroy any products that use gold as an input like electronics and make them super expensive?

That's my only major problem with it.

Why can't we have crypto or fiat as a currency(but have all units digitally signed so the government cannot print any more etc)?

>>16615011
why should you suffer? for example insta chicks have made lululemon stock do a 400% in 2 years

>>16614929
Yeah I figured the tax I paid will be nothing compared to possible profits. I guess gold is more of a saving and silver is an investment, probably a very safe investment too.

>>16615030
Is it really that simple? Don't be pulling our noses. What shares are you buying? Help a brother out anon.

>>16615063
I just buy the big ones like barrick gold, first majestic, endeavor Kinross gold.

I honestly just buy tranches of a bit of everything. I'm assuming we are in a long term up trend for gold miners but I sell them very early because I have priced in constant smackdowns by the cartel. The key is to buy back in like a day after the smackdown while they let the price recover and they are accumulating shorts again.

>>16615040
> wouldn't gold just destroy any products that use gold as an input like electronics and make them super expensive

exactly, thats on my concerns and arguments that it could get confiscated just to stabilize its price
>all units digitally signed so the government cannot print any more

Because then millions of people would be still out of jobs. Fiat is not bad, just imperfect and has more pros then cons.

>>16615040
This is what happened to gold prices when the last crisis in 2008 hit. Do you pay 5x more for your electronics? It doesn't work that way, Tesla cars have 4 kilograms of silver on average inside of them, when silver moons it's not gonna multiply the price of a whole car, just that silver inside of it.

>>16615089
>Because then millions of people would be still out of jobs.
So what? New productive jobs would get created in other sectors.

>>16615102
I know but still, we are losing out on the cost advantage of having cheap mass produced silver and gold.

>>16613322
Will it be ripple? They're in with the banks, it's basically centralised, instantaneous and printable.

>>16615111
If silver stays this cheap for much longer, it will go completely extinct. It's barely profitable to mine it, it's definitely not profitable to do exploration for it and start new mines. What will happen to electronics then?

The price needs to rise so it can keep being produced.

>>16615147
If it's not being used in anything, we don't need to produce more

>>16615103
Yeah, but in years and how/why do you think new jobs are created? For example, all recent major companies ar are a byproduct of the printer. Also do you think any politician would want a civil war type of situation for a longer period than 6m?
>>16615102
the price spiked because the fed & co. announced zirp and qe (and its various forms) and everybody thought that it will create massive inflation, but actually they didn't.

>>16615165
Silver is the second most useful commodity in the world, just behind oil for the number of technologies and products it is used in.

It's an element, it's irreplaceable.

>>16615170
The money printing did cause inflation in the stock market, the corporate bond market and the housing market. Once these bubbles burst and all that printed currency looks for a new home in everyday goods you're going to see some serious shit. Will a 20% interest rate be enough to tame inflation this time?

>>16615213
printing did cause inflation in the stock market, the corporate bond market and the housing market
people don't hedge those with pm, they buy inflation in assets
>Once these bubbles burst
you should look into the gov pending liabilities regarding pension funds and where those assets are allocated and then make assumptions about the downside of those markets

>>16615213
capital is moved from fin assets to pm only because fud and fears of inflation which causes pressure on consuming/company profits

>>16597149
Don't care didn't read. Question:

If I buy precious metals on the markets, what steps do I need to take in order to collect that metal - To "cash out" in the form of the asset itself and hoard it at my own facility? Who actually sends me the metal - the exchange? The individuals I bought the shares from? Do they all just mail it over in shipping containers?

>>16615366
>you pay the company (whichever you choose)
>company sends you the piece of pm
>fed ex and etc deliver it to you
>done

>>16615366
if digital - etf's etc, then no, it's just on paper

>>16615395
Do my shares on the exchange disappear after I receive the metal? If I want to trade it on the market again, do I have to send it back and they add my shares back in their database?

What's this company - Isn't the idea of a market that I bought the pm from whoever sold it to me with an order on the exchange?

>>16615395
Also thank you for the reply

>>16615395
>>16615421
Don't think that is actually possible, as >>16615402 and most anons here already said. If you want to be safe then buy physical, if you want an ease of burden (not having to worry about the gold) put it in the bank safe for a fee or trade on the CFD at some risk of not actually owning anything and getting memed instead.

>>16615102
Any source on the amount of silver a Tesla has in it? I couldn't find anything other rare earth and nickel amounts.

>>16615366
If you want large amounts of silver buy a futures contract. Don't cash out at the end of the contract and take delivery of the metals. You'd better be rich because you're going to receive 5k ounces of silver.

>>16615442
>>16615102
Was also looking for a source on the 4kg figure.

>>16615421
No, the spot price is determined by the large buyers that use futures to secure a piece of it for an exact price in the future. They also set the price for 1g/1oz/etc to make profit. The metals market is kind of exclusive. If you want to sell it, then the market you participate is anywhere you can sell it - ebay/handtohand/etc. Commodity markets are not like stock/bonds/fx/etc.

>>16615466
I now have understanding - Thanks anons

DAILY REMINDER

>>16597149

Should I pay off 5k of debt in the next 3 months, or use that money to buy silver?

>>16615521
Debt, silver won't moon that soon.

>>16615521
> there are Anons out there who took a loan to buy more ShitCoins when it peaked
Loan first, everyday expenses second, little pleasures third, the rest of it is savings, then you take between 10-50% of it to stack in gold/silver.

How do you guys stack? I have 75 oz. silver and no gold but feel incredible FOMO.

>>16616099
You're not gonna miss out on anything. Gold and silver are not crypto, never take any loan, always take your time.

>>16616145
I'm not taking any loans for it but how much should I try to get each month vs. stocks and crypto?

>>16616189
I can't calculate your expenses for you, everyone is different. I don't do stocks and crypto, I consider them to be closer to a Casino. I own a single BTC just in case it's worth some meme price in the far future. The rest of my portfolio is gold and silver. Mostly gold, I don't think we'll ever see silver for +200$, but who knows. As you can clearly see from my portfolio, it's not a "get rich quickly or die trying" scheme, it's an early retirement plan. I'm 30 right now, if I can retire with enough money when I'm 44+ I'd consider that a happy conclusion.

>>16610033
Bought another 1 oz gold and 100 oz silver today on this dip

Goldchads rise up!

>>16616215
What is your retirement target?

>>16616258
What dip? Silver is up today, Gold going sideways

Britbongs, if you want some of these delicious VAT-free 1oz silver coins, atkinsonsbullion.com had a fresh delivery today. They always have a limited supply, so fastest orders win. I'm not planning to buy any silver in the next 30 days, so I'm kind enough to share that information.

>>16597149
Don't waste your time with Bold. They'll nickle and dime you to death on everything. They claim to ship in a reasonable period of time, but miss that target by weeks consistently.

>>16616347
Tesla Cybertruck Mk. IV, two real estates, one for me, one for rent and some travel money. How much is that? Depends if we hit a devastating crisis in my lifetime.

>>16616362
I dunno where you're seeing VAT free unless you're talking about pre-owned. At any rate it's cheaper to ship from Europe.

>>16597149
everyone on here should be getting their Free Miners Certificates or equivalent.

Do some research and buy mining claims. Buy mineral claims with at least 1 opt (ounce per tonne) gold.

Dont buy gold, dig it up yourself!

>>16616409
Yes, pre-owned older Britannias, if someone's too lazy to ship, it's a good alternative, not that much more expensive. Up to the individual I suppose.

To be honest I never really had a time or patience to figure out VAT-free deliveries to the UK, and now that the Brexit is gonna happen at the end of January, I don't think there is much point looking into it. We'll see.

>>16597149
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T7BlJmNCT2w

>>16615196
We just need to start asteroid mining single walled carbon nanotubes

>>16616410
Is that your nugget?

It's so comfy holding gold. What an amazing element.

If I take a silver coin out of its plastic container and touch it, will the grease from my fingers react with the metal?

If I were to buy silver/gold, melt them down and mold them into certain objects or plate objects with them would I be able to profit from it? Like, say, would a 24k ballpoint sell for much more then its gold content?

>>16618609
It can do. Best to hold the edges if you're not wearing cotton gloves.

How much is too much silver eagles?

>>16619023
No such thing as too many eagles fren

>>16618109
It feels great. Now I know why the dwarves dug too deep.

>>16618609
Yes but very minimal. You can clean it with hand soap if you're worried. And even if it corrodes, a little polishing brings silver back to a mirror shine. Handling PMs doesn't reduce value unless you are stacking mint proofs or ancient numismatics.

>>16619406
How much time do I have? I bought some silver coins two weeks ago and touched them, then put them back. Have I fucked up or can hand soap still save them?

>>16620440
They are ruined now.

What’s the value of them if somehow you had a fire and they melted?

>>16620628
That would take one hell of a fire.

>>16620628
Keep them in fire proof lock boxes

>>16611605
t. Bought at 20k

Newfag to pm trade, how do you start out traiding metals/afford to get build stock

Normie question here.
How do you know the gold you bought online is gold and not gold plated lead / any kind of fuckery?
If you buy 24k, how do you know it's not 18k / whatever?

>>16609999
Pic related.

>>16621123
Go to your lcs and get it tested. They should have a sigma machine and/or specific gravity tester. You could do an acid test at home, but might reduce resell value.

>>16621180
Thx for the spoonfeed m8.
I believe you test your shop once and then trust it to always deliver.
You don't test each item do you?

>>16607867
Read the fine print. Many places state if they don't have the metal they can settle with cash.

>>16620440
Use baking soda and water on bullion, not coins

>>16621123
Buy it from a reputable dealer. Apmex is a reputable dealer, any reputable dealer would not want to be caught dead selling any plated metals.

what if the local shops want 30-35 aud a ounce
but my money is dirtier than the hole i would bury it in
do i get some one else to get it via perth mint and pay them
if a confiscation happens and i get jewed on by my buyer im fucked right

>>16608020
>Is it better to buy online, a physical store, or some other means?
Other anons can go in much more detail if they want but ultimately it doesn't matter. One or two dollar difference doesn't really matter in the long run of hoarding metals. But shipping is a thing you should keep an eye on but a lot of online sellers, at lease in the US, offer free shipping on orders over $100.

>>16621860
Just buy online from a dealer, don't pay that much. You only need to have your ID recorded if you buy more than 5,000 AUD on a single transaction. So you can buy 4,999 dollars from two different dealers in one day or 4,999 dollars per day from the same dealer every day.

>>16608655
You wont have problems selling unless you are selling in a Mad Max world. In a Mad Max world your metals will be the money.

>>16617731
no but i was there when it was dug up. it sold to a collector for $175k

>>16612985
>Am I fucked anons?
Only if you think your shares have a chance to crash and are not okay with that. But if you just look at your shares as you would any other type of shares, like shares in a company, you can own and are fine with it; then your okay. Remember anon, if you can't hold it you don't own it. So if you want to diversify into physical, there's no better time than the present.

>>16614632
>In EU silver is taxed unlike gold and in my country it's 25% fking percent.
Can't you just travel to a nearby non-EU country and buy 10oz to 20oz of silver once a month?

>>16614980
>Will I miss the triple figures silver if I'm this slow with it?
Only (((bankers))) know when the crash will happen, so don't even worry about it. Either the crash happens earlier than you want and you still have something to fall back on, or the crash happens later and you're fine.

>>16618983
>would I be able to profit from it?
Being able to make a profit from anything you make will always depend 100% on the buyer, no one wants to buy equals no money. You will also need to factor in the price of all the equipment you need to make your product on top of the price for the metals. You can make money, but there is not and never will be a guaranty you will.

>>16622170
Massive chance this shit comes crashing down next year, they need trump gone, crash blamed on trump, one of these commie dems gets puts in, sprinkle in a couple (((mass shootings))) and huge gun control acts go down.
Guns are #1 issue for these (((guys)))
birdie at morgan told me this, get your ducks in a row lads, load up on guns ammo gold and silver

>>16621108
>afford to get build stock
Got 100 dollars? Good you can now buy 4oz of silver and your stack has started.

>>16622330
I’m just waiting for Trump to say the two forbidden words. The moment anyone even suggests the return of „gold standard”, is the moment you should stack up on PMs at tripple rate. (((They))) would collapse the entire America to stop it from happening.

>>16611605
>What is diversification

>>16622330
>Guns are #1 issue for these (((guys)))
Yeah but it also causes a backlash like what you're see in Virginia.

>load up on guns ammo gold and silver
If you want to go full prep don't forget lighters, water purifier tablets, medicine, and some other necessities.

>>16622388
Digits confirm.

>>16622388
Checked, nothing they wont do to stop the finite issuance of currency, trump wont do a damn thing though for the gold standard, he’s just a roth plant. Bigger picture though its utopia globalists who are financial elites vs apocalyptic slave globalists, trump is on the money team (royal families), other team is media team and commie democrats aligned with chicoms. Its high standard of living money team or full 1984 chicom authoritarianism. I’ll side with the money team over these slave owning chicoms anyday. If china wins we are all slaves.
>>16622410
Backlash or not it will be crushed with ease, just see how many zombies they have already made? They got the retards thinking inanimate tools kill people on their own
>other preps
Goes without saying fren, but doomsday or not metals are most important commodity to have in this upcoming paradigm shift.

>>16622410
>don't forget lighters, water purifier tablets, medicine, and some other necessities.
prepper nonsense
in couple years you will have several pallets of expired garbage will pay to get rid off
install couple of solar panels and get a home water treatment plant or drill a well, good thermal insulation, if you live in cold climate throw in wood stove and/or thermal pump
those are actual investments that will pay for themselves eventually, even without the "doomsday" and you can even get the government gibs to pay for it

>>16597149
Another 20 eagles on their way. Feels good

>>16608538
>Eastern Europe: You are fucked

oh yeah? got this package today and not the first order either and no knocks on my door and never will be. bonus: its VAT free (estoniafag here)

jk I only wanted to flex my stack

>>16611605
god I hate shitcoin enthusiasts

>>16623808
I don’t consider Estonia to be Eastern Europe, it’s a VAT-free utopia for Silverchads and more of a northen Europe anyway.

Should I trust a bank with holding my PMs? I feel like it will be safer there.

>>16614929
>Estonian Silver Delivery Scheme

to say its scheme is a little harsh

tavid . ee/en/faq/delivery-insurance/#accordion-item-1

just give them a call or email and ask for options

if you buy in bulk, crunch some numbers to see if it comes cheaper to order from here(estonia) without VAT however with delivery cost or your local dealer

>>16625051
>trusting a bank
C'mon anon

>>16625058
Well, they are obliged to keep my shit or I get massively compensated (I guess). So why not?

>>16622055
Jesus christ, why would anyone pay that much for a nugget like that? How much would it be worth if it was sold for melt? Also what do I need to know if I'd like to pan for gold myself one day? Any good books to read on the subject?

>>16622472
I thought you were saying we had a couple years to stack, now you feel it's just 1 year?

>>16625140
1 year on the low end

>>16625140
I still think trump will win again and no collapse yet, my source said 1 year. I don’t have a crystal ball, no one does, it can’t hurt to be extra prepared by stacking more than usual

>>16625362
Man I really wanted my 25k eagles :( fuck.

>>16625362
I hate being a fucking millennial, born too late for just about every damn thing.

>>16625391
Just keep stacking, bud.

>>16625383
>>16625391
>25k eagles
My god lad you are a maniac, even i dont have that many eagles, i only have 8k eagles and others adding up to 21k ounces, also have 200k in mining stocks. Why so many eagles?

>>16625362
nobody can tell when the collapse happens because its not random nor relies on TA

its all about the jews anon and when they decide to pull the plug

>>16625524
I guess it's just an arbitrary number. I want to be a king.
I was hoping for LINK to have some violent price action upwards but ah fucking well, anything is possible, I'll just have to act quickly if it does happen before metals take off.

>>16625501
Definitely, thanks for being encouraging, I appreciate your guy's input on the subject. >>16625524

>>16602945
>you can fit all the platinum on earth in a big fridge
Come on mate. That's clearly not true is it.

>>16625843
Maybe he was talking about one of those walk in freezers.

>>16625666
Nice devil trips. But honestly, you’ll be just fine. When silver moons it won’t be overnight so just go steady with the stacking and put what you can afford into it every month. Once you’ve got a gold bit of silver, diversify into gold. If it’s too pricey then do a quarter ounce at a time.

>>16602945
So how much of a gold and silver stack should one invest into platinum?