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>>16455073
Adderall did nothing to help my ADHD.

Currently on Ritalin. AMA

>>16455080
effects? sides? recommend? tolerance? sleep issues?

>>16455073
Start lifting weights, the endorphins will solve all of the above

>>16455096
i already do and no its just a short term relief

>>16455085
Focused but definitely not euphoric like adderall or vyvanse. I recommend it if you are usually pretty chill cus otherwise it will turn you into a robotic asshole if you take it everyday. Tolerance builds with anything and I’ve never tried cycling so idk how well that worse. And sleep issues are almost non existent if you take it with a shake or something early in the morning. Working out is critical.

>>16455134
why did you end up with ritalin instead of other adhd meds?

>>16455140
Mom did her research when I was younger and decided Ritalin was better for the long term. I think everyone has different effects tho

>>16455151
how long you been taking ritalin, how old are you now and how much longer you plan on taking it

I hate Ritalin makes my mind feel itchy

I’m on dexamphetamine, one pill is basically the equivalent of two coffees.

And I can sleep easily after my daily dosages.

>>16455073
Try meditation. I had the same symptoms and meditation cured everything without drugs.

>>16455073
Adderall is fine as long as you're on it. When you get off all your problems will be 10x worse and not just in the short-term. I can't wait until the long-term side effect profile of that drug emerges into public awareness and it gets completely cancelled.
The best solution to ADHD is finding a line of work or lifestyle that accommodates free action, like writing or investing.

>>16455313
Bump.

>>16455073
OP, this will probably be lost on you. But coming to a crypto meme board and posting pictures of dog-eaters and complaining about your made up problem isn't doing you any favors.

>>16455073
Vyvanse has worked very well for me. I highly recommend it.

The one to the far right is definitely a boy.

>>16455291
Any tips? Trying to tapper off weed. I've meditated before but I can only go like 15-20 minutes without my mind wandering off and losing all my original enthusiasm for it

>>16455073
I take dexamfetamines, pic related 3-4 times a week depending on when I feel like it. I use it only for work performance and not for recreational use. I am on a low dose which is 10mg twice per day and have been taking it for about 2 years now.

Ask me whatever you want.

>>16455313
It’s weird that I recognize that you have posted almost exactly this before. That being said, I agree.

>>16455085
I'm this guy
>>16455728
>effects?
The first few times you take it you will definitely feel this euphoric high. This is the high that people try and chase by increasing the dosage which then creates addicts. After the first 2-3 times you take your normal dosage this feeling goes away and what you are left with is a feeling of "wanting to do something" and whatever you decide to do you will usually get quite focused on doing it and you will feel like there is no excuse not to do it. You will also feel like talking and having a conversation for the first few hours of taking your dosage and will need to train yourself to not ramble on and talk too much.
I work as a construction estimator so the effects are perfect for me. Half my job is talking to people trying to get them to price things for me and to get a better price. The other half is staring at drawings making sure I pick up every single detail of the job then adding up numbers.
>sides?
After it wears off you will crash and crash hard. You will also need a few extra hours sleep to feel fully recharged. If you take it often then decide to take a break, say 5 days a week and the weekends off, you will feel very irritable on the weekends and very easily angered. I only take it 3-4 days a week and I never feel this anymore, only if I take it for 5 days + per week for a few months.
>recommend?
Highly recommended if you learn how to manage the positive and negative effects for your benefit.
>tolerance?
Not once have I wanted to increase my dosage. There has been no tolerance build up even after 2 years of taking a very low dosage. Anyone who feels the need to increase the dosage is chasing the euphoric high that it can give you and is not actually using it for it's purpose.
>sleep issues?
Yes. You will have trouble turning off your brain at night. This is the only real negative I have found that can impact my life if I am not careful. If I take a dose too late in the day then I won't sleep till 2-3am.

>>16455920
Can agree. Was on a heavy therapeutic dose for years (single mother wanted to make her kid quiet, I don’t blame her). Would do 5 days a week and than go off on the weekends. I would sleep til noon and eat so much on Saturday I got literal acid reflux as a 10 year old kid. Went cold turkey off of it sophomore year HS after my midterms and went through a 1.5 year period of insane emotional instability and mood swings, than another 1.5 of aimlessness and overeating. Almost 21 now and I feel the best I literally ever have, but I know I’ve done irreparable damage in terms of my elevated paranoia and binge eating habits. Again, I don’t blame my mom as it’s all she knew but it still bothers me.

>>16455073
yea man im sure theres a magic bullet that will make you a motivated go-getter who can read

build some productive habits you lazy fuck

Personally I think those drugs rot your brain
Imagine taking meth so you can sit at a desk and do what your brain is telling you is bullshit

I recommend exercise and finding something you enjoy for work. Distance swimming will remove all of your excess energy.. they told me I was add when I was a kid, but really I just hate being told what to do. I’m fine now , and thankful I still have my whole brain

>>16455073
>he thinks he can cure depression
lol also they look like goblins without kilos of fake up, wake up!

>>16455080
Does anyone has the youtube video from 2015 about the guy on ritalin addiction recovery in which he said that when he was on ritalin he tough the global economy was to collapse and he had to invest all his money in bitcoin because it was the best way to protect himself?

I been searching it a few times the last years and never found it , it's funny on retrospective that he was right about bitcoin.

im on prozac and i have zero motivation. i just sleep all day long and have headaches. im not cutting anymore but i feel like shit. should i keep going or stop? ive been on it for 4w

>>16456592
based and truth pilled. You must listen to your mind, do not try to trick it. If your brain is not interested its for a reason.

>>16455080
where can i get some?

>>16456634
>I feel like absolute shit
>should I continue?
kek

ive been fried off adderall the past few days on very little sleep and probably looked and acted like shit at work earlier today

Woops posted my advice in the wrong thread >>16456858

>>16456633
lmao I want this

>>16455078
This. You'll just focus harder on Vidya.

>>16455348
Based

>>16455073
>avoidance anxiety makes me annoying to work with
>severe early onset arthritis has me in constant pain, underperforming during flare-ups
>completely scatterbrained, terrible memory and organization
>boss is at the absolute end of his rope with me, feel like I'm on borrowed time but we both want to make this work

What do I do bros, I tried Adderall but I built tolerance to it way too fast and I don't want to go above 30mg IR a day

>>16455073
>I masturbate play videogames and browse forums all day
>my life is instant gratification 24/7
>why can't I concentrate I must need magic pills because I'm a special snowflake mentally ill disturbed heh don't come near me!!

Lmao good goy

>>16455549
Same here. It goes well with coffee too but coffee makes me poo

>>16455073
Diagnosed here. Disclaimer, every brain is different. Started taking ritalin in my late 20's after talking to my doc. Went from smoking weed, taking amphetamines and shit (basically self medication) and playing games all day. To having my own business, buying a house, renovating everything and having a wife and kids.
Don't use it recreationally, just go with the ritalin, find the right dosage for you and get your life back on track.
Use your new gained focus on the things that matter. ADHD in our current world is a disability, ADHD with the right medication is a goddamn superpower.

>>16457570
Basically this. Illnesses like ADHD didn’t even exist before we invented video games and smart phones.
Grow up little babies. Try to live your life without drugs, it makes the long-run much easier.

>>16455073
I used to be on "ritalin" aka concerta aka methylphenidate but it didn't sell that well. Only like 0.25 USD a mg. But i plan on swtiching to zenzedi aka Dextromethamphatamine which I predict should sell for at least 1 dollar a mg.

>>16457776
Please give use more anecdotal truth's, ignore all evidence and study's involving brain scans and proper testing. Must be nice to think you're always right

>>16455745
there are legitimately like 50 people who post here, this board is dead as fuck

>>16457796
It is nice and I am always correct you fucking brainlet.

>>16455080
>tfw have a prescription for it due to my inattentive type ADHD but the ritalin keeps working for shorter and shorter periods of time

>>16455073
I just quit my adhd meds. Feel much better now. Feel like an actual human bean.

>>16455073
Straterra/Atomoxitine helped me out.

>>16458581
>check review of that drug
>Men claim they can't have erections after using it.
>Effects continue even after stopping using it.

>>16455313
>The best solution to ADHD is finding a line of work or lifestyle that accommodates free action, like writing or investing.
I'm an amateur writer, and I'd be fucked without my ADHD.

Too bad it gets in the way of my day to day life.

>>16455073
1>2>3>4

>>16459404
came here to post this

>>16455073
Stop playing videogames.

>>16455073
Once you have a regular schedule, know to work to-do lists, work out three-four times a day, limit your computer and video game time, work some job or work and be social a few times a week, clean up your diet and cut out all sugar and such, you could try it.

>>16455920
>You will have trouble turning off your brain at night
I only had this without the meds (and with excessive caffeine use, energy drinks and shit). Got so bad I'd break out in sweats and scream, full of fear of death and the fact that the universe is somehow infinite yet our consciousness isn't.

Truth is; I think I only need it because my retarded single mom put me on it when I was a child and it likely fucked up my brain development (together with lack of exercise, excessive TV and video game time, lack of father figure and such). And I'd go so far as to say that this is the case for most people on here. I feel like we're a generation of boys trying to catch up for a childhood filled with neglect, making up for our retarded parents' mistakes.

>>16455728
Oh I'm loling at USA citizens
They firmly believe they can solve anything with a poll even tho it has been proved many times that doesn't exists
Drugs are drugs period
Almost any nervous system related can be solved easily trough
Food
Exercise
Meditation
Isn't easy
Nothing is easy Nothing can be sold with just a pill

Does anyone have a comparison of Ritalin/Vyanse to Adderall? I was prescribed adderall IR for studying, but have always wondered about the comparisons to the other options.

>Tfw no cute korean gf

>>16460533
I guess you could look up the effects of amphetamine and methylphenidate on psychonautwiki to see how they differ technically.

>>16456987
I wish that was what it did. It made it harder to focus for me.

>>16455073
>>16455080
meditate.
and if you can't meditate, just sit there trying until you can.

>>16455313
Or neetbux

>>16455073
Nicotine. Just don't smoke
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00573248

>>16457563
Neetbux

>>16458818
You must've got some normie type ADHD. I'm a scientist and have about 5 papers which I cannot finish. I will more likely start another 5 before finishing a single one.

>>16457563
find a new job, hope every 8 months to 1 year
try to work on things that are largely project-based so you have an excuse for the hopping
save very, very heavily for the next decade

i'm in your boat and realized this was the only shot i have

>>16462244
checked
investing is neetbux desu

I'm kinda convinced that ADHD just doesn't exists
Everyone is lazy as fuck
Everyone hates studying and working
When I just compared my work and study time with others people, I just came to the conclusion that I'm a normal person

Basically the only ADHD cure is finding something you love to do.
I tought studying wasn't for me but then I found a field in which I could read forever without getting annoyed

>>16462539
Then you never had ADHD. If you do have it, your executive functioning is fucked to a degree where you can't decide what is important to do when.
It's having to force yourself to do something even though you both want and have to do it, NOT having problems concentrating on something you don't really care about.

Most people are fucking retards when it comes to understanding mental illness.

>>16462296
Well, it's the difference between creative writing and academic writing. When I'm writing a story I can surf through multiple lines of autistic thinking and connect pieces together to form new ideas and plot elements because I'm super focused on writing something I find fun. In contrast, it took me three months to write a business plan for the bank when I was trying to secure funding for my business.

>>16462736
this

>>16455073
goddamn I would ravage those sluts I hate women but Im drawn to them FUCK how can I escpae this hell

>>16455096
This is bullshit unless your issue comes from never developing your ability to delay gratification.

If you actually have ADHD, and most people do not, you will also be unable to focus on things you actually want to be focusing on. For example, you're fucking your woman and there is a clock in another room. It is ticking. You cannot concentrate long enough to actually get off and could be fucking for hours. Or something like an air conditioner stops you cold on an exam you could ace in an isolation booth.

Weights don't solve it for those people. Weights help the undisciplined mongs train something denied to them by shitty parenting and too much screen time. That small minority with the disorder has a very different psychological response to stimulants and can modulate a minimum dose to sidestep their extremely limited concentration resources. Often, with medication, they will also be in a position to develop coping strategies that will help them when off the medication but which would be impossible to train without the meds.

>>16455133
dumb cunt, you can't expect to do exercise once and feel great for the rest of your life. it's temporary relief because you need to keep it up. for fucks sake...