/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16440540
don't worry about it, goyim

move along, nothing to see here

this is not QE it's repo

>>16440571
Right..

>>16440540
long lamp posts and rope

>>16440571
So? Eventually that money will spread to other markets, right?

>>16440571
kek

im gonna vote for bernie now. this is out of control. the only way to stop it is to arrest all the bankers, try them for crimes punishable by long prison sentences or death, and redistribute all the wealth. these faggot cunts are cheating.

>>16440761
Ok zoomer

Lol this article must be from last week or earlier, cus the ny fed printed 114.5 BILLION this morning. Every day it gets bigger. If you're not maxing out your daily buy limit on coinbase/Gemini etc, you're gonna regret it in 6 months

>>16440833
markets are no longer discounting mechanisms that price risk, they are political fictions where a few rich cunts invent the rules as they go and you pay for it and support them all the way. kill yourself faggot.

>>16440540
Nothing to see here.

>>16440885
Forgot pic related

>>16440885
so you think people wont sell their btc for cash if everything goes down? tztztz

>>16440571
it's literally the same.

>>16440540
Lol the economy is about to implode on a global scale, Lagarde also intends to continue Draghi's policy of QE.

>>16440761
The only thing Boinie Sanduhs is going to accomplish is making you poorer

>>16440898
Jesus FUCKING christ the operations extend out 42 fucking days now?? And it's almost 2x oversubscribed??

Counter Inflation by buying Bitcoin, Ethereum or Algorand! Just stake Ethereum & Algorand in the future for side income and lend out your Bitcoin for interests.

I literally just got into buying stocks this year, if everything crashes within the next couple of years it will be just my luck.

>>16440540
>tfw they're transparently angling to pin the blame on the Democratic victor of the 2020 election
this is obviously unsustainable and they're being really shitty about it. unironically, a lot of people are gonna die this time around. home ownership levels have plummeted, and the resulting rental debt and mass of evictions are going to cause significant problems in the short-term

>>16441028
Good.

Should I prioritise paying off my
Mortgage or buying assets?

>>16441043
why would you have a mortgage on a property you live in given the current political and economic environment in the states?
honestly this thinking blows my mind more than people who don't save at all
congrats on anchoring yourself in a country at its ATH

>>16441028
>>tfw they're transparently angling to pin the blame on the Democratic victor of the 2020 election
I think they're just scared of Trump. Trump is one of the only presidents who would fight the fed (and probably win) if they crash the market. I think they're just going to keep this economy going out of fear, until Trump is out.

>>16441043
Either or, just make sure if you are putting money into assets, that they are the kind that will not lose money when everything goes to shit, do you can pay your mortgage off when the banks come to collect. If that's too difficult for you then pay your fucking mortgage off.

>>16440540
QE4 x 2
>>16440761
thinking communism (socialism) will make you richer, sure bernout
ironically enough bernie is a millionaire off the books you faggots bought off him

>>16441050
Anyone else with an actual
mortgage have an opinion?

( I had to have my own place for my health )

>>16440937
I agree he is terrible, but I'll take his straightforward brand of communism that will fail quickly over this centrally planned garbage that will potentially take decades to fail spectacularly but will do so at a point when there is absolutely no redemption possible

>>16441050
Where else can you really go? The rest of the English speaking is at its ATH as well.

>>16441058
What’s better :
100k in crypto right now and keep until economic crash
Or
-100k from mortgage right now

>>16441075
When it explodes, we get total fascism and a couple hundred-year American imperium before the complete collapse.

>>16440571
This anon>>16440934 is correct, it's the same shit. YOU'RE INJECTING NEW FIAT IN TO THE ECONOMY YOU DUMB NIGGERS.

https://usdebtclock.org/gold-precious-metals.html
>we are now at $1050 silver
>it was just $800 1-2 months ago
kek and this is ONLY in $USD, not even counting in the (((trillions))) of yuan, euro or pound
when the fed opens the floodgates non metal holders are fucked

>>16441085
Its impossible to tell, the mortgage is the safe option. In a collapse scenario, I'd rather have the crypto, but they may drag this economy along for another 4 years.

>>16440540
The real question is, why does the banking system constantly need cash? Where is it all going?

>>16441085
>crypto
trash vaporware unless you invest in the only coin that will actually moon
>mortgage
just wait until the housing market tanks, they literally cannot sell houses right now

protip:
30k into silver, etfs and mining stocks
30k into gold etfs and minings stocks
30k in cash
10k into ZEC, the New World Order coin founded by JPMorgan and DARPA

>>16440624
No and that's not the goal.

>>16441107
>thinking your pixels will moon in any type of economic collapse
delusional late adopter, crypto will be the first asset class to drop off a cliff

>>16441079
Most of the Scandinavian countries have significant English speaking populations, same is true of east Asia. But if you gotta get a place for your health, especially your mental health, I can understand that >>16441067 bro

>>16441052
Why would Trump scare me? That's so ridiculous, I can't even imagine how far down a tunnel of awkward conspiracies you must be to think that.

>>16441036
based and psychopathpilled

>>16441165
>Why would Trump scare me?
Trump scares the Federal reserve retard, I don't know you

>>16441187
fuck, alright i'll leave

>>16441191
we koo we koo, sorry I called you a retard

>>16441085
Probably 100k worth of LINK, it was literally designed for scenarios like this.

>>16441132
Governments and banks will not allow people to have private transactions.

this is fucked...
The government is basically subsidizing mass stock buybacks.
They're basically paying companies to inflate the market in the most direct way possible while also ignoring the lack of deflationary pressure. 1920 here we come. We're gonna have South Africa/Venezuela inflation in this next crash.

>>16440761
So give all of the power to the dem govt and let them redistribute your earnings.. it's just the fucking same. This place is done.

>>16439288
Bump this thread too, it pisses kikes off when we talk about things that actually matter.

>>16440761
Only death is a suitable punishment, not just the criminals but their entire familes too.

>>16441132
>ETFs
cringe and bluepilled

>>16441067
>Anyone else with an actual
mortgage have an opinion?
Yes, previous commenter is retarded and probably rents. They are pumping trillions of new dollars into the economy. I am taking a loan out on my equity because I can PAY IT OFF WITH CHEAPER MONEY.

>>16440761
Lol what the fuck, the fed is the one pumping this money retard. Government institutions propping up their private arms of government. They are cheating because the government is manipulating them for economic warfare. The solution is not to run into the arms of an even bigger brother.

>>16441267
Such a kike response.

>>16441187
>Trump scares the Federal reserve retard,
You poor delusional child. Trump is OWNED by the FR. stop believing the theater.

>>16440571
That you "federal" reserve?

What if MMT is actually right? What if hyperiflation is just a meme and we can actually just keep printing money? Why not? Have 22 trillion debt? Print it and pay it off, so what if it inflation rises? Debt is paid.
>But the people!
Print money and give it to them ( UBI )

Do they really think they can get away with it?
Or are they just crashing this economy with no survivors? Banks are the biggest buyers of gold and silver, could they use the collapse as a way to create a digital centralized currency tied to gold? Or maybe they just see their inevitable death because of crypto and want to cash out?
Thoughts please

>>16441267
And meanwhile your real estate drops 50% in the next few years just like 2008-10

>>16441283
How is using kike inflation to pay a loan off for a wheelbarrow full of devalued fiat a "kike response". You are unironically too stupid to understand this subject and you are fucking yourself over if you believe this economy is in any way healthy.

>>16441309
But I hold debt.. not a depreciating asset. I can pay the debt off easily because dollars are worth shit. That was my point. You don't understand inflation at all.

>>16441242
Ever fallen asleep without dreaming?
So horrible right? Ugh I fear going to sleep!
That's what death is like.

>>16441320
Because it will not be a inflationary collapse, but deflationary.
Which is why it would be an excellent choice to hoard either metals or crypto.

>>16441202
damn. friendly anons are eternally based and blessed

>>16441132
>ETFs
oh lawdy dude, they are literally what's going to cause the crash, i'll post long-form when i get off this afternoon

>>16441335
Won't be so easy going when it's death by fire.

>>16441272
they should have let the banks fail. now it's at a point where we are close to regular people being more excited at the prospect of destroying the ownership class than staying under the illusion that they are a temporarily embarassed part of it. we're very very close. you can see it everywhere in society. things are going to get interesting.

>>16441348
The criminal merchants will watch their love ones burn first.
No one will be spared, women, children, not one.

>>16441340
ok genius.. it won't but ok. The printing presses are running hot. How do you think this will be become a deflationary recession? Perpetual buybacks? It will hit main street at some point, it will just take longer than last time. If the printing never has the effect of padding the masses unrest with a bit of "wealth redistribution" then there will be riots anyway.

>>16441363
By design of course!

>>16441378
Because after people start chimping out at unprecedented levels, (((they))) will roll out their international digital currency. So you could call it a buy back or whatever.

>>16441052
>I think they're just scared of Trump
You're right but for the wrong reason.
The FED will stop repos if Trump wins the election and use the economic recession as grounds for impeachment. Screencap this.

>>16441115
niggers, spics, & immigrants

>>16440958
yep. and when 42 days are up, it will be extended to 3 months, then 6 months, then ...

you guys don't understand what is repo market

>>16440540
This fucking market is so twisted at this point the only hope it'll ever have to maybe have some characteristics of reality again is it completely crashes, like all the current market makers/HFTs blow up catastrophically, and we just start over. Even then this government would probably just declare a mulligan, reset the market to what it was like week before, and put in a selling restriction or some shit.

>>16441861
Kek, please explain the intricacies then. I don't believe you can. Here's a very easy question that's only tangentially related, how does the purchaser make money off of a negative yielding bond?

>>16442301
By leveraging it?

>>16441023
Assuming we don't go full WROL/SHTF then the crash would be a great time to get stocks at a huge discount. Do some analysis now so you know what prices would be steals when/if the recession hits.

>>16442358
It won't get that bad, of it does I don't want to live on this gay earth anyways, just fuck my shit up niggers!!

>>16440540
Puts short it all it doesn’t matter what they do, shit is gonna crash before the end of the year. Doesn’t matter how much printing when trade war, brexit and the euro will bring it all down on its own. If you go long you will get fucked, if not today then tomorrow.

>>16442358
problem is then that i dont have much money to buy with (since i have most assets in stocks now)

>>16441984
Everyone knows it is gonna crash now. Biggest investments banks are leaving cash off the market, central banks are buying gold by record numbers and the biggest investors are throwing money at bonds and hedging like crazy. From buffet that isn’t investing over a 120bil to bridgetwater with outs for March. People not prepping for a recession are gonna get fucked. But this time people can’t claim ignorance at least.

>>16442465
Yeah leave it in the market shit always go up eventually so better not panic. Ignore the fear and keep it all, at least until you see it in the red.

>>16442330
How does leveraging the bond make money though? It's negative yielding, assuming I was FrenchFraud, my response would be "surely leveraging a negative bond wouldn't make money, then I would be leveraging a -1.0% loss into a -3.0% loss!

>>16442490
Listen to this guy, markets are great, they always go up, always. Buy more stock actually!

>>16442521
Leveraging is just another form of gambling.
I'm not expert by any means so don't take it from me.
This lady explains it a lot better than I can.
https://youtu.be/gVejnTjkj_Q

>>16442521
I think French bro was trying to say that he does not understand what the repo market is.
All this shit is quite confusing. I'm just hoping LINK has something to do with this all in the end because if they do we will get extremely fucking wealthy.
On a sidenote, the DB logo is a blue cube, the LINK logo is also a blue cube, the shades even match. Just my shcizo brain making connections.

>>16442564

>>16442535
No I understand that, what I'm asking is how does leveraging the bond make money? If my bond is yielding -1.0%, then I bought it at $1,000 I could expect to receive $990 at maturity. Leveraging that trade so I could buy $3,000 of those bonds means I would lose an additional $20. I promise this is not a trick question, there is a way you could make money off of this, with or without leverage. I just had a feeling FrenchBro was bluffing and knows nothing about bonds, CD's, or the repo market at all. By his silence I think I was correct in calling his bluff

>>16440934
>so you think people wont sell their btc for cash if everything goes down? tztztz

You more than likely won't have the cash to buy anything if you leave your money in your bank accounts. We already have economic disasters in Lebanon, Chile, Venezuela, and Argentina. Every one of those places people were desperately trying to pull their money out. The banks were doing everything they can to keep them in. Heck, Germany right now has banks issuing NEGATIVE INTEREST RATES starting next year.

You'd be a fool to keep your money in fiat and not crypto. You'll be able to sell for cash (though you don't particularly want to) and it can still be used for currency.

>>16441043
God shes perfect

>>16442490
yeah sure however lets take a look at boj

you shouldnt be afraid of a crash as a horrifying end
you should be afraid of horror without and end like Japan where the central bank buys up everything and the economy is in a 30y stagnation and still counting and nips slave away 22h a day just to make ends meet
something atleast the ECB has hinted is not out of realm of impossibilities

how come when banks need money the gov just gives it to them, but when regular folks need money, the banks take their stuff?

>>16442608
Not sure, but somehow the banks are doing it.
The point people are trying to stress is that this shit cannot lasts or turn out anything good. People are about to lose a lot of fucking money.
A good number of people will probably lose their lives over this.

>>16442644
Why do you think?
Because (((everyone))) is so damn obsessed with nigger loving.

>>16440761
>stop all the bankers
>vote jew into office
I fail to see the logic behind this

>>16442644
Banks get taken as well. Thanks for being another retarded ignoramous, I’m sure Bernie and Warren will love to have your vote.

>>16442662
Why do niggers and jews get along so damn well?
They are both eternal victims.

>>16442670
But they don't, most get bailed out.
Instead of letting things take their natural course, the state governments will fight tooth and nail to get the tax payers to pay for it, one way or another.

>>16440761
It's state institutions that bail out banks, set a cash rate, implement qe etc. Vote libertarian/anarchist. We're all capitalists, every single person.

>>16440540
Is this why fucking fast food combos are now 12 dollarydoos?

>>16442529
well as long as the companies don't go under the stocks usually do recover, i really wouldn't want to have to wait five years or longer for them to do so though

>>16441248
These are the faggots that shit on crypto hahaha.

>>16442752
it’s fucked

>>16440571
"I didn't punch him, I pushed him with my fist"

>>16440761
>I know! I'm gonna solve backdoor communism with frontdoor communism!

>>16441267
can't tell if normie of jidf

>>16442806
>its not real capitalism its actually communism/cronyism!

>>16440540
Ultimately it depends on what the oligarchs who run the world want to happen. The system is ending no matter what, but they can choose to 1. let the banks fail and have a deflationary spiral, or they can 2. continue debt monetization or 3. start large-scale bail-ins/expropriations.

Option 1 would be a massive outlier in recent history. You could try to argue that they need to curb inflation at some point, but historically hyperinflationary conditions can limp on for years. There wouldn't necessarily be any urgency any time soon.

Option 2 is very consistent with the recent past, and that's what repo is doing (has anybody even checked whether they banks really repurchase anything instead of unloading junk paper?) and it will probably continue. And yes, it means going long looks like a good idea in principle. But what if the oligarchs short + crash it for profit in other assets?

Option 3 is also coming in the form of climate change. They are preparing to pull in trillions from Western middle class populations to pay for carbon taxes. It's no coincidence that all policy makers and finance institutions are jumping in on this. That is a disguised bail-in. As a normal citizen you may not be allowed to own financial assets (or any other assets for that matter) in the near future.

>>16442894
Can you explain QE vs REPO, effectively elaborating in option 2. Is current stock performance literally a result of these repos injecting billions daily?

>>16442301
> a bond is a loan
nice try. a bond is used to be liquid in the future primarily. you could also make money with it. but you got that guy >>16442330

>>16442894
singularity is what's coming
the elites will achieve immortality trough merging with machine and the rest of the peoples will become a needless dangerous mass which they will exterminate

>>16442820
This but unironically
>>16442957
Repo is just like QE but just a bit sneakier. Instead of just buying garbage assets from banks to inject liquidity in one fell swoop, liquidity injection by repo works by allowing banks to loan out toxic assets over the "short term" (used to be 48 hours but now it's apparently 42 days kek) which in theory should be bought back by the banks to close the loop, but this can be circumvented easily by extending the repo window and offering progressively larger repo facilities. If the "repo" is the new QE meme is true, then expect the dollar amounts and borrowing time to trend upward.

>>16442957
>Is current stock performance literally a result of these repos injecting billions daily
Well banks having an unlimited money spigot lets them lend to giant corporations which then use the "free" money to buy back their shares, so what do you think?

>>16443048
So banks are allowed to give out toxic loans over a short/mid term, what do you mean by the banks then close the loop? Where is the FED in this picture? Thanks for the time

>>16442812
When in doubt, call them a jew.

>>16441132
>etf's
bro...

>>16443090
The Fed is buying. Imagine somebody with the power to buy your shitcoin bags with somebody else money and you can buy more shitbags. An infinite circle with your childrens children as the debt slaves for your one in a trillion shot at a moon shot

>>16442957
I'm not an expert on repo either but I believe in many cases there's a distinction without a difference between these various bailout measures. They are all about getting more cash to the banks and other financial institutions, and that tends to drive up asset prices. Whether, in any particular instance, they use those funds to buy new assets or just to avoid having to sell good assets or writing off assets is likewise not important - it props up assets prices either way.

Stock performance is a consequence of many factors that largely boil down to massive monetary supply coupled with limited investment opportunities outside of such assets (due to low interest rates, etc.) Stock buybacks are also a big factor now, but for those it can also be argued that too much credit is available to corporations and they have no better ideas to spend it (+ short-term greed, etc).

With respect to QE vs repo, "QE" injected cash into the financial markets by purchasing assets - including junk assets that would normally have to be written off, thereby exhibiting deflationary effects - while repo is supposedly about temporarily lending cash in exchange for securities, and that exchange is supposed to be undone soon afterwards. But it is still.a cash injection, and as we can see it isn't just temporary either if it can be prolonged again and again.

>>16441132
>ETFs
Please educate yourself https://youtu.be/bqoQ9DxMrw0?t=386

>>16440571
drop trip

>>16441861
drop trip(2)

>>16440571
brainlet here
can someone explain why they have to keep adding more and more to the repo markets if it is just to ensure liquidity and lower short term rates? why do you have to keep doing it over and over? are they getting the money back and then readding it and it makes headlines every time they do that ? if not and they are just adding more and more every announcement then how is this different than QE as far as the effect on aggregate money supply?

>>16443157
LOL, nice analogy

>>16443172
Very detailed response thank you.

ALGO is a great long right now, extremely bullish. Major breakout is coming

Poorfag brainlet checking in, what can I do to prepare?

>>16443450
at this point nothing really
I own gold but not physical so I made a retarded mistake I may pay for dearly.
If you store boomer rocks then they will be stolen.
Maybe load up on crypto. I use a mining rig for heating.

>>16442992
No, bonds make money. Your correct the function now is largely to be liquid stores of wealth, if the yield on your bond drops even lower however you can sell it in the secondary market or sell futures on it for a profit. If average yield drops your bond price rises, for my example you bought a bond for $1000 that matures at $990, if yield drops to -2.0% you can now sell your bond for $1010 because that is the price the secondary market is purchasing them at
Congrats, you have now made 1% off of a bond yielding -2%.

Also bonds are technically all about making money. Bonds were the back bone of 7% retirement targets for almost 30 years, they are entirely about making money at risk free premiums.

>>16443524
I have 0.83 BTH, 1180 LINK, 8 ETH and 12 LTC. 70 oz physical silver. I've got some funs and a couple thousand things to feed them

Moving forward do I want more crypto and silver, a pile of cash to buy cheapies, work towards doing both?

>>16443697
0.83 BTC, not BTH

>>16440540
The fed's repo shenanigans are much like Tether

Everyone knows it's bound to collapse, always calling for it to fall whenever there's more printed, and yet every time some more is, the market pumps and tether stays alive long enough to take another cancerous breath

>>16440540
well martin armstrong seems to suggest that this isn't even a us bank thing: the fed is trying to prop up euro banks mostly deutsche to stop the financial system from rolling over due to its interconnected state
the repo crisis is in basics banks not trusting other banks and stopping lending to eachother, so in september repo injections were not QE, but now they extend the deadline out and out to infinity so it is becoming stealth QE
any connected tier anon here might have access to armstrongs repo report?

>>16443630
i partially agree but i have to disagree spmehow. i mentioned triple a bonds with a near due date. the only reason to buy them is have a nearly garanteed liquidity in the very near future. ie "i want to have 1000 usd in 3 months for sure". even if interest rates are positive you sometimes had to pay for liquity. imagine getting 2% pa while inflation is 2.1% pa --> you pay the difference as toll for being liquid in the near future.
(if i am wrong correct me. i'm not a banker.)

>>16442301
funds are being forced to buy them. some buying of those bonds was a bet that rates would go even further negative in the future so they could then sell them when that happens

>>16442629
>perfect
>hairy snatch
>hairy armpits
>literal whore
Oooook

>>16440761
the CIA controlled media is already pushing their establishment puppet biden with their fake ass polls. they dont want a bernie in the whitehouse.

>>16441023
I know that feels. I started my stock buying in December of 2006 after college. Yeah.....

>>16443045
Ive been obsessed with this idea, feels badman

>>16442625

>dump all your money into btc
>crash comes
>no food, no water
>no merchants will accept internet money
>well good thing I didn't keep any cash
>h-haha

>>16443259
fuck off pajeet

>>16440540
I have never been this confused. Everyone is counting on the Central Bank put for equity markets and expects them to print money indefinitely which would mean inflation AT SOME POINT. Yet at the same time we have 15 trillion in negative yielding bonds which means the credit market is expecting deflation.

The central banks have been doing socialism for the 1% for 10 years which has raised real estate prices in certain areas and art prices but has done nothing for overall inflation. Regular investors have been driven out in risk curve and when government bonds dont yield 5% they put a shitload of money into riskier assets like BBB bonds. A look at the corporate debt market makes me sweat with anxiety. Yet the FED put keeps working in everyone's head, equity market is at an all time high.

Which is it going to be? Deflation or inflation? I cannot decide.

>>16440937
Gas the...

>>16441165
Kike

>>16443706
You better get 1.10 BTC for citadel entrance 1 to confirm you are in the 21m club and 0.10 to pay fees to prove it's your wallet from time to time after 2021.

>>16444030
You are correct, and that is basically what money market funds are. Extra short duration bonds being constantly bought and sold for super small 10-50 basis point gains. Wether you meet or beat inflation is controlled by the federal funds, depending on what you buy and sell you can make money beyond inflation however. Banks and dealers constantly need to be lowering their risk and some well picked risk adjusted returns can still net you a profit, it's why some money markets make a 50-100bp spread above or below others. JP morgan has everything from government short term only market funds to extra short Corp A3 yes.

In general though you are correct, the majority of money in bonds come from taking on duration risk and taking on credit risk, of which ultra short duration A3 corps or god forbid US ultrashort will make you nothing. However beyond money markets in order to spread liquidity and risk is where the repo markets come in, and that is where the big money is at and the types of ultra long bonds that pension and retirement funds love because they can make huge money off of duration adjusted accounts. Right now most everyones fund is trending towards shorter duration bonds because they do want short term liquidity as you mentioned, but at the start of the year the average duration was at a super high 7 years because people wanted to make ludicrous duration risk only money as the fed was back to cranking down rates.

I probably sound like a broken record at this point, but to sum it up yes you are correct bonds can be used as short term liquidity, that is a more niche use for bonds however as the large majority of bonds are used to create risk adjusted return bases for a portfolio.

>>16444094
How can one be so delusional to believe Bernie is anti establishment.

>>16444225
>no food
>no water
Not a realistic scenario

>>16444236
Its been inflating, slowly. Deflation would fuck everyone really hard just like 29.

>>16444225
The mistake here you're making is assuming a crash won't drive the adoption of crypto.

>>16444236
Yup, the mismatch between equity markets valuing QE as bullish and credit markets valuing it as deflationary is scary honestly, and I have a sneaking suspicion it's the smoking gun for hidden inflation. Interesting note is the fed recently announced they will be raising the ceiling for their inflation goals to "let the economy run hot", which sounds like a smoking gun for monetary base inflation if I've ever heard one

>>16444225
>dump all money in gold
>crash comes
>no food, no water
>no merchants will accept shiny rocks that have no use whatsoever
>well good thing I didn't keep any cash
>h-haha

Is there an easy resource that tracks cumulative FED QE's like this?
Using US budget as (very) rough estimates for the annual supply of money floating in the economy: if the US federal budget is $4.7 Trillion, and overnight Repo's print $100 Billion, that's a 2% increase in the total money supply. Maybe 0.6% if we use a more conservative $15 Trillion including consumer spending, or less if you count all dollars in circulation.

So we could expect asset prices to jump 2% eventually or immediately due to game theory.

>>16444419
M2 *should* track QE/Repo as part of its growth, I've never bothered to check though

>>16444444
waste and waste-pilled

>>16444444
Checked

>>16441043

What's assets? Is it an erc20?

>>16440549
This, ignore the man behind the curtain and go shopping for the holidays

Yep, this is the sign of a healthy economy, surely our dreams of unlimited economic growth will last forever on this rock! There's no way we're heading into a recession, nope! BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY!

>>16440761

Bernie is literally for MMT, which believes you should print as much money as possible as long as inflation doesn't kick in. Central banking and central planning are one in the same.

>>16444477
>>16444444
I think based frog god is a little drunk and ment to give me digits on this post
>>16444292

>>16444444

>>16444444
>never bothered to check

>>16440761
This desu. The strongest will survive. The elite think they can keep down the strong and smart non elite en masse.

>>16444444

Nice digits gay boy now show us your dick

>>16440540

>The organisation that prints money is allowed to invest it

Lmao how is the economy real again?

>>16444444
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=gI4A

>>16444587
Why do trannies only love me for my huge dick and not my smol brain

>>16444607
>https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=gI4A

yup it tracks QE and repo operations. Monetary base does a x4 in 10 years and anons are still betting on equities not crypto monkanigga

>>16444444
that's not a humorous get

>>16444675
Check when btc was created and when the ath happen in the bogged chart

Anyone not into crypto is mentally retarded.

>>16444683
leave it to boxxy fans to care about humor in a thread about monetary policy

>>16444089
>hating pubes
Unbased and cringe

>>16441023
you're still structurally short on the market if you're young. You're going to be a net buyer of stocks until you're late middle-aged, so any price volatility is just a good deal for you until then.

>>16444746
leave it to you to post that image once again

>>16444801
sigh, i don't consider myself young any longer

>>16444834
i love that picture its fukin hilarious

>>16444849

>>16444292
And that my frens is why it's harder for corporations to immunize their balance sheet with longterm debt. Interesting times we are living in

>>16444506
honestly with interest rates so low and the japanese scenario looming in, I don't see anything wrong IN PRINCIPLE to issue new bonds that are spent PRODUCTIVELY, especially in shitty infrastructure or anything that raises human capital and other stuff that raises productivity in the long run. I'd rather have higher nominal debt than stagnate for a decade and more.

>>16444746
Lmao that pic

>>16440761
>redistribute all the wealth.
You know how I know you're not an actual Bernie supporter but just a piece of shit Trump troll?

>>16440833

ok boomer

Fug guys, I've been reading zerohedge again. Someone tell me w-we're going ti be okay if we have personal debt, r-right?

>>16444444
literally 1/100,000 chance to roll sextuplets, gimme my checks you nerds

>>16444607
>BOGMBASE
well well well

Repo market is structured to loan money cheaply to holders of assets with assets as collatoral.
>Pump money into the markets making assets appreciate
>Asset holders are now more creditworthy because they can use those assets as collateral
>More money gets borrowed / loaned out to ''increased'' creditworthy investors
Not sure why or with what goal but I can see a scheme developing where this goes on in perpetuity creating artificial wealth by increasing the creditworthiness of investors by inflating asset prices.

>>16444275
based

>>16440761
FEEEEL the BERN!!

REEEEEEEEEEEE!!

>>16445277
Your wife will leave you for a nigger with 0$ to his name.

>>16445414
I suppose you can re-invest that money short term before the FED starts another QE round - The money is to finance ''short term trading activities'' - and then sell of the assets into QE as asset prices go up, pocket the profit, refund the money you borrowed and repeat it for a next round? Does that make any sense?

why is the catalog not moving

>>16445996
the ratio of real users to shills at this hour is about 1/8 right now, so only shill threads are being bumped. I don't know who is wasting their $10 paying these pajeets at this point desu

>>16442608
There's to pieces to a bond. The bond price and the bind yield/interest. If the bond prices go up, the yield will go down and vice versa like a see saw. So all these brainless like schiff and kaiser and niggers saying negative yielding bonds are losing money are wrong. The yield is negative but the prices if the bonde goes up so holders are making money if they sell.

Tldr don't believe the niggers

>>16446018
it's amazing how the board resurrects during the weekends when the pajeets are not working

>>16442637
It's like you don't know what the plaza accord was and how it's happening to China, you ignorant zoomer

This will go up, that will go down, there'll be a recession in 6 months blah blah blah.
None of you faggots know what will happen.
Most of you are just repeating fake news media noise.
You're all letting your emotions take over.
Just make an investment plan and stick with it.

>>16440761
This
>Average person fucks up and can't pay your bills
Oy vey goy, you have to pay what you owe! We'll take all your property and garnish your wages until you pay off your debt + interest.
>Bank fucks up and can't pay Bill's
Oy vey goy you better bail us out or we'll crash this whole economy! This totally isn't a terroristic threat btw.

>>16444292
nice post anon

>>16446101
Nice, you are correct of course anon. My one addition would be the bond holders could lose money if they buy at a negative yield and rates stay stagnant or they rise, then your only option is to sell at loss or hold until maturity at a loss, but currently nobody has lost money on bonds except possibly dealers who bought the local top in September and then sold, but even then they are making money in fees. This is not taking inflation risk into account of course. Such an easy question, but it separates the larpers and those with a working knowledge quite well.

>>16446221
Anyone giving you specific dates and times is a charltan 99.999% of the time of course, but on a macro scale there are many many straws and even if you can't tell which one will break the camels back, you know it will break eventually. Without going full schizo, there are clear patterns and plans laid apart by people to load that straw on the camels back as well, so to speak.

>>16440540
>what is cashing out in peace before letting it all crumble on normies

>>16444292
and thank you for the very good info!

>>16441861
i cant see through the shine of your glass chin

>>16440761
Unironically this
Trump is comprised and every single one running is comprised
I’d hate to vote that kike in but he’s at least honest

>>16446411
very welcome anon, I enjoyed the conversation

>>16446111
>Tri of Truth!

B A S E D

>>16440998
Hmmm, Algorand. Seems interesting.

>>16440540
Buy gold
Buy silver
Fuck, buy platinum

Just don't bet your future on jewish paper.