/biz/ - Business & Finance

smart contracts

>>16420148
Bump

>>16420148
Having sex with a woman

kneepads
anybody giving serious answers should kill himself for feeding a stupid question thread

>>16420148
Dark Enlightment, smart contracts, postpeople as user agents and mere data carriers
cthelll
Try digital identity cloud storage service?

>>16420214
why is it stupid dumbass go back to your shitcoins

Smart contracts and then, staking Link to displace the general workforce

>>16420148
none of those are dead though brainlet

I have been studying the practical application and development of space elevator technology.

This century is the century Humanity can take a lift into orbit.

>>16420411

yeah sure are you making money with any of them?

they either have a huge barrier to entry or are too saturated

>>16420427
Yes
They are all SEO related and SEO will never die as long as you know what you're doing or know who to pay for it. those niches are dead for brainlets maybe. Not as easy as in the 2000s though

I remember brainlets saying SEO was dead in 2012

>>16420427
I am.

It's only "dead" to clueless retarded sheep that cant figure out how to differentiate themselves.

DEFI

>>16420185
faggot

>>16420148
probably african startups or south american real estate

>>16420447
>>16420451

Question to both:

How much do you make (profit per month) ?

How many hours do you work daily?

And btw I think you guys have ton of experience, If I start seo for example right now its 98% chance that I will fail, so It's a big barrier to entry as I said.

>>16420160

No one needs this

>>16420148
Chugging

>>16420148
get on the tiktok

>>16420856
how can you make money on that shit?

ther are no bots right now to automate it and I'm 100% I wont start doing those type videos with my phone.

>>16420538
Like any trade it will take a few years to be good at it.
Why are faggots ok with the fact it takes a couple years to be a decent coder for instance but think online marketing should give them a stable income after watching 2 youtube how-to videos?

>>16420538
You're not white, are you? Saturation means there is money to be made in those niches. You don't want to pick niches that aren't saturated.

>>16420878
No idea. It's the next big thing. So get ahead of it and get followers then shill shit that sponsors pay you for.

>>16420934
This. Saturation just means you will have to be better at it than somebody instead of it being essentialy free gains

>>16420956

Yeah but take this example.

-Making money in seo in 2010
-Making money in seo in 2019

Which one is better? In 2010 there was 0 competition because it was a new thing and everybody was ranking sites and making tons of money.

You could've made litteraly $3k/month in a month with a little work.

I'm trying to look on the next thing to hop on

https://www.gartner.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2019-29-08-gartner-identifies-five-emerging-technology-trends-with-transformational-impact

I think unironically the creative industry (influencer, streamer, shiller). Shops can be run by AI at some point so capitalize on the human element. That's why IKEA went from cheap boxy shit to cheap handmade looking shit.

>>16421090
faggots in 2010 were saying the same shit basically.
Internet is still young, SEO is still young.

Create a good product and SEO is just one of the many small things you need to do to make bank.

Dont think about SEO first. Think about a product people actually need.

If you want to shill clickbank scam affiliate garbage, yes thats harder now.

>>16420895

> expecting a biztard to understand that hard work is necessary in whatever profession one may choose

>>16421090
>I'm trying to look on the next thing to hop on
>could've made litteraly $3k/month in a month with a little work.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
You're just lazy then. You should've started your post with that then.

You're never gonna make it by not working.

>>16421090
>I'm trying to look on the next thing to hop on

hop´on link sir and go to boat party

>>16420214
Kys nigger

>>16421126
>faggots in 2010 were saying the same shit basically.
This, so much.

The same things the OP is complaining about is the same shit people bitched about almost 10 years ago. Actually it was harder to make it back then because people were more protective of their money making techniques because they were (rightfully) afraid of creating more competition. Now you have some youtubers (not the big ones of their niche) revealing enough information to piece a puzzle together. That didn't exist back then.

>>16421126

Ok lets talk about the product then, how do you create a product? I dont want to sell other ppl program because it's bullshit and I dont want to do the dropshitting.

What product do I sell then?

>>16421138

No shit, I'm looking the best way to make money for the least amout of time invested

And no I'm not lazy I just dont want to work 10 hours day for a few k a month, already done that

>>16421168
Youtubers revealing pieces?
Which one for example? Every fucking youtube talks about the same shit (Dropshipping guys, kevin david,)

The ones that I follow are sam ovens and alex becker but they talk about more advanced stuff that It's not applicable to me right now

>>16421181
>Ok lets talk about the product then, how do you create a product
Your whole mindset sucks. You are obsessed with tactics rather than fulfilling market needs. Take a few marketing and startup classes and get a broader worldview over the next 3 months then come back and read your posts.

>>16421181
>What product do I sell then?
preferably a digital product or service that can be automated.

>>16421181
Someone can answer every single question you have now and you still wouldn't get it. This guy is right, >>16421195 you need to change your mindset to make it.

What country are you located in?

>>16421198
So I should become the fucker that sells infoproducts?

I mean I kinda know how to make one, but it's all bushit and stuff that you can find on youtube for free, and I dont want to put my face on an infoproduct and stuff like that

Do you mean infoproduct by digital product?


-service that can be automated
so SAAS? how can I create a SAAS product, I mean I know a bit of coding so I can do something but I'm competing with companies that spend millions and SAAS is really hard.

>>16421222
>but I'm competing with companies that spend millions and SAAS is really hard
This is exactly what I mean that you need a whole mindset change.

2nd question, how much money do you have to invest in this new potential business of yours?

>>16421222
>Do you mean infoproduct by digital product?
Anything you don't have to physically ship is a digital product anon.

The anons talking about mindset are right

>>16421209

I'm in Germany (no pajeets and shits)

I've dona affiliate marketing for 2 years and I know how to make websites/a little bit of seo/copywriting and stuff.

But I was working 10 hours a day for only a couple Ks a month and wasnt worth it.

>>16421232
lol what you are telling him is that he has to work more than 10+ hours a day. What he needs is the next easiest big thing to flip and milk before moving on to the next stuff.

>>16421238
>>16421232
>>16421195

Ok guys so my mindset is the problem then.

What should I do then? Do you have any resources?

I have 2k to spend, nothing much and I have some basic skills of websites,coding,marketing,copywriting

>>16421222
By automation I meant its good if fulfilling 10 orders is the same amount of effort for you as fulfilling 100 orders.
Often you stumble accross something many people want to buy but doesn't scale.

Like if you can sell a thing for 100$ but it takes you 2 hours to create it that sucks as the max hourly rate you will EVER make is 50$, even if you have a hundred buyers.

>>16421239
What were you doing in those 10 hour days that was making you $2K? Because it sounds like you were just putting your affiliate link everywhere for that return.

>>16421244
You need a mindset change too.
In order to make semi-passive income in blogging (for example) you need to put in a ton of hours of work in the beginning so that you get to a point, eventually, of updating the blog 1 hour a week. But you still need to put in a lot of work in the beginning.

But if his desire is to work 2 hours a day max in his new project then of course he's going to get over taken by his competitor that is willing to put in more time to make his project work.

>>16420148
Unironically uploading videos on pornhub. Highest ppv revenue on the internet

>>16421284

Actually kinda I was spamming fb pages and fb groups with affiliate offers

But I want to do something more long term right now, as I said Im ready to work a lot just dont want to make another wrong business decision to pursue

>>16420148
3rd world countries in general, they are slowly modernizing and the demand for luxuaries and modern civilization shit will be sought after. Just need to get pass the red tape there is really little competition if you find your own niche.

>>16421298
Porn CPCs are usually fucking shit. What do you make on 1k views?

>>16421190
Cant expect chainlink level spoonfeeding figure it out yourself you know how to use google

>>16421302
If you want to make it by putting work look up income school on YT. They teach you things that are obvious to me but good for beginners looking to make income blogging. Go through all their videos on youtube.

It may take you a year to see money for your efforts but by year 2 you should start seeing good money roll in.

>>16421298
where do you get videos to upload? Do you just steal them from other sites?

>>16420185
Nigga u gay

>>16420934
>>16420956
Saturation means an influx of large VC-funded companies who care about seizing the marketshare instead of being profitable.
They swin in free money, while you have to pay for rent and tendies.

>>16421361
>>16421321

0.68 was averace cpm in 2018 for pornhub and it's the highest paying.

thats one of the lowest one, youtube pays 4x that.

>>16421349

How much are you making?

I can get their program for free, maybe it's better instead of watching youtube.

But I'm not convinced of that business model, blog are getting less traffic, people now use social media or youtube more

>>16421090
The real problem with this mindset is that you have to jump on to the new thing every few months. Rather than building a real product/skill/business you're speculating on what's going to be the new hotness. You're the digital equivalent of those guys selling fidget spinners and cup ball games in malls.

>>16420148
None of the faggots in this thread have posted their income. Also none of these meme methods are actually worth pursuing. 99.9% of those who try will not earn enough to live on, let alone serious money, and even those who do succeed don't usually succeed for long.

OP, the play in 2020 is to be a wagie and put as much as you can afford into crypto until you no longer have to work anymore. Forget all this other garbage.

>>16421420

Yeah but ok, for example dont they tell you to look for the lowest competition keyword and build pages around those?

the same thing can be applied for an instagram page, youtube channel.

Do you consider those a business? I dont know...

Do you consider a blog where you write article about some keywords on google a business?

>>16421361
Well you have to make them or have the rights to them to get paid

>>16421465
>have to make them
I have a small dick so I guess this won't work.

>>16421389
well it's really easy to get demonetized on youtube for any number of reasons. On pornhub you're not going to unless it's illegal. One of the highest viewed videos this year had 102 million views. The payout that one-man studio received was $65,000. And he releases a new one every few days that reach in the millions within a week. And this isn't even a top studio, it's one guy(Alex Adams) with a shitty DSLR and no lighting or set up. Half of his videos are not lit by any lighting and zoomed way too close. But coomers don't care and will watch anything unique on pornhub. Good luck making money on youtube unless you're already a top youtuber

But this all requires you to make your own content you cant just steal it like >>16421361 thinks

>>16421239
When I was in Germany I made about 3k€ per month buying shit from Americans on Bookoo or US military base Facebook groups, and occasionally US websites shipped to my APO address; and reselling for 60% profit on ebay kleinanzeigen or amazon.de. I would also buy stuff from the Germans on ebay and sell it back to the Americans on Bookoo. Most popular items were bikes for the Americans and women's handbags and nigger fashion items for the Germans: straight brim hats, "Kickz" shoes or whatever.

>>16421545
Just watched one of his videos. God damn that shit was gay and cringe. We live in a clownworld.

>>16421545
There are people making way more on youtube semi-passive (check out chase namic) and not even revealing their face. They are doing top 10s and stuff like that.

>>16421573
Dont you have to pay taxes for stuff that you buy form USA?

>>16421631
>There are people making way more on youtube semi-passive
Stop. Stop comparing yourself to others and stop focusing on what other people are doing. It doesn't matter.
What are you going to do?
What unique value are you going to offer so someone gives you clicks or money?
For every tactic or platform you name, you can find thousands of losers who didn't do near as well. You are getting suckered into winner confirmation bias. You can study their tactics sure - but if you just copy paste their business so can everyone else.
Read about lean startup stuff, Nail it Then Scale It, Cashvertising, and E-myth revisited. Start poking around not on people making money but on people asking question, people bitching about things they need, etc and start obsessing about market demands. Keep at it then one day you will see oh wait such and such market has these need, and I know how to do MarketingTactic#35 to serve them.

having to jump on a new trend every year is a game you are going to lose sooner rather then later

the game is always the same tho the trick to profit is selling age old products to the new and coming generation
womens vanity is always a sure bet as such selling make up to the new generation is a good strategy, contract a polish firm that makes it for cents a piece get some young girls with a large online presence to shill it for you and of you go
yes you will have to put in a lot of your own money up front, no way aroudn that

>>16421448
Any of those things can be a business if they make money and there are strategies to doing that... but what these guys are saying is you gotta meet a need before thinking about monetization. Products meet needs. I don't have further commentary, I'm a high paid wagie investing my high income.

>>16420838
No one needs any of the shit op mentioned. What’s your point?

>>16421631
Top tens are video arbitrage. You should know that with your marketing background.

>>16420148
twitch streaming

>>16421965
Dead streamer

>>16421631
The stuff I bought online was the womens handbags from US retailers. No extra shipping because an APO Mailbox on base is considered domestic. There was also the AAFES PX on base which sells stuff tax-free. You need to get a job on base to get access, but you don't need that strategy to make money.

Most of my profits came from eBay K. to Bookoo reselling. I could buy a bike from a German for 20€, copy the photos from the eBay listing and list it for sale on Bookoo for $80, and usually have a buyer set before I even picked up the bike from the first guy. The city was Stuttgart and there are 4 bases in Möhringen Vaihingen Böblingen and one closer to downtown. I guess the theme was - take advantage of the language barrier. Maybe thats the next phase as we move deeper into globohomo.

>>16421444
Pathetic loser.

Get a job and invest.

>>16420214
>business question
>on a business board
>stupid question
imagine being this retarded

>>16422321
invest in what?

>>16420447
>They are all SEO related and SEO will never die as long as you know what you're doing
this obv
for brainlets seo is dead because they compare it to how easy it was in 2008-2009 to make money with ads...obv it's not easy now but there are always people winning at the seo game

They are trying to kill any alternative sources of income so you have to slave

>>16421680

Already read cashvertsing, the lean start up.

Missed nail it then scale it and E-myth revisited. Should I read them?

Ok so everyone is saying as I understand I need to find market needs, so what consumer want and need and create a product around it, right?

Seems like what Sam Ovens (consulting.com) is saying.

But now the problem seems to be, what niche should I choose? The most profitable? I think choose what you are passionate about is a meme in business.

>>16421951
WTF ahaha, dude learn more about youtube, those type of channels have evergreen videos and make millions a month of youtube (check out top trending) but I dont want to do that because you need a team of editors and people that do voiceover and will cost you at least $100/video.

>>16420214
Fuck you faggot

>>16420538


$26k/month sales
Around half that in profit.

Average day I dont work, but I'm getting bored so I'm coming up with new businesses to start. If I was pressed, about 8 hours a month?

I do ecommerce not seo.

>>16421444

Here you go

>>16424059

amazon fba? you order stuff from china in bulk (alibaba) and you send to amazon and sell them for profit right?

>>16421444
checked

seriously, if you are looking for a 10x return in 2020, then LINK is your best and safest bet. With SEO and other similar memes, you gotta put in a lot of work, money to test ads etc. I would probably be doing some meme stuff, but instead I'll focus on uni and try not to sell any of my 19k linkies.

>>16420214
Great answer
Go fuck yourself you useless borderline brain-dead piece of shit excuse for a functional human being even by 4chan standards

Love
Ray

>>16420148
BAT + YouTube

>>16424506
Explain

>>16424781
crypto fag dont worry about it

>>16420148
smart contracts

>>16425219
stop shilling fgt

>>16425161
the problem is youre trying to look for some super early shit and the hardest part about that is to find the diamond in the pile of shit. dont overlook chainlink. im serious. its not a crypto and its not a blockchain. its a middleware software. read every yearly report by major companies. a lot of those reports talk about smart contracts. they dont mention chainlink but the way they talk about those smart contracts points to a service like chainlink needing to exist. im not a crypto faggot, im just like you trying to find the earliest shit that will make me rich as quickly as possible. fuck you if you think my two years of research is bullshit. otherwise, i really suggest you look into it.

>>16425243
see
>>16425286

mighty beanz

>>16425243
good luck with ideas like this--->
>>16425296
also, a reminder that if you made this thread a year ago and would have been calling me a shill faggot...just know that im 250K richer from being a "shill faggot". you wanna know what i did for that 250k? FUCKING NOTHING BUT HOLD A COIN ON THE INTERNET FOR A YEAR. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR SHITTY IDEAS AND ATTITUDE. YOU WILL NEVER MAKE IT

>>16420427
>a huge barrier to entry
That's what makes it alive dumbass

You have to climb the barrier that others don't if you want to get the reward that others don't

Opportunities without barriers get gobbled up in a year. You have to luck into being on the right forum at the right time to find them.

For everyone else, the only way is to treat it like a puzzle: think very carefully about how you can get past the entry barriers.

This is actually a good thing- the existence of a barrier makes it more likely there's still some kind of reward for you on the other side

>>16421254
Read millionaire fastlane and then UNSCRIPTED by the same author

But you'll still need to work a shitload to create a passive income generator

any good guides on smsart contract coding?

Unscripted has a bunch written in it about how to evaluate need BTW if you want to know what people mean when they say satisfy a need

Also I have 200k link and I'm gonna sell 20k and go start businesses in fields I know nothing about till I make it lol wish me luck guys

>>16424016
how many clients

>>16425382
he's selling on amazon so doesnt have clients just sales

>>16425296
The original BitCoin

>>16420148

all of these posts are fucking brainlet, op i understand you the question you are asking is what is the next THING, industry, whatever you want to call it. we seem to agree that there is always something new around the corner but it is difficult to know when the peak of one thing ends and the new 'thing' begins for eg, i thought crypto had peaked in 2013 and btc was dead. i was wrong but the point is even back then you were 'early' not because of btc so much but because of eth and other shitcoins which were the next step in the crypto business. my advice is look at the current industry and what could it be used for next, try and think up a new invention from a series of existing ones like uber. Uber was allowed through a series of different inventions, paypal->smart phone->. app store-> which lead to the ground to be fertile enough for uber to come into being. you need to think along those lines and you will uncover the business of 2020. hope u understand

>>16420148
Maybe instead of always looking for the next meme get rich quick scheme you should try providing value to people in the form of a product or service that they are willing to pay for.

>>16420185
Virgin

>>16420878
Go ahead anon, make a few of these gems and watch the cash flow in

>>16420148
You left out crypto dying too

dressing up like a girl, puttinf on makeup, and sucking pp

>>16421444

checked and extremely bluepilled

crypto is a meme. stock trading is a meme. random ideas in SV won't get any funding anymore. we're going back to needing actual sales instead of profiting off hype.

e-commerce (whether through fba/online course/affiliate/etc) may be saturated but its certainly not dead. GIVE WHAT PEOPLE WANT. come up with a creative business model.

Selling nudes online

>>16421254


the >>16421195 anon is completely right; 75% of it is a mindset problem. I used to worry about what what random "program" i was going to do for online businesses. it's all about GIVING what people WANT rather than tactics.

don't fall for crypto. look around you; you see the bustling of thousands of businesses; the law of attraction governs all; you said you have experience with seo and affiliate marketing; how can you be of benefit to those businesses? that's fundamentally what they want. businesses don't care about analytics or any of that bullshit. they want more money$$$. you can also transfer your skills to others with courses; this is a game of knowledge. you have to "productize yourself" and build your own brand. i suggest watching the naval ravikant podcast with joe rogan and his how to get rich podcast; this changed my life.

>>16420148
kneepads operator

>>16426360
>GIVE WHAT PEOPLE WANT
it's a an easy sentece to spell but it means nothing
>>16421573
did you buy on Bookoo DE and sold on Ebay USA oder umgekert?

>>16426450
I watched the video you recommended. He lost all credibility when he said all people can be rich.

>>16421573
did you buy on Bookoo DE and sold on Ebay USA oder das gegenteil?

>>16426450
you retard are going to miss one of the greatest ROIs in history, because of YOUR mindset. You know 0 about LINK. You can't even understand why only LINK has been spammed here since it first came to existence. Yes crypto is dead, but not Chainlink.

What business ideas exist for smart contracts anyway?

>>16428299
Bought link

Link has a chance of 40x from here

If I spend $30k living for 6 months, I have a chance of turning that into millions.

I.e., $30k invested in link right now could become $1.2m with no effort one day

$30k invested me in right now with heavy effort could become $3m one day

The smart person bets on both themselves and link

>>16428361
Isn't that like asking what business ideas exist for Legos? Or bricks?

You build shit out of them. It's so vague to ask what business ideas exist for them- think about shit that can only exist with blockchain or that gets massively improved by it.

Or think of shit that would be massively improved if you didn't have to trust that another business wouldn't try to fuck you by falsifying records, or trying to delay payment, etc.

Think about what they enable and what kinds of businesses might benefit

If you can get some shit job doing work that people keep saying will be revolutionized by blockchain or chainlink "someday" then that might also give you an advantage in thinking of ideas while the whole thing is still new, but unless you have money to hire coders, you'll want to be teaching yourself to code in your free time while you do this (and teaching yourself to code might actually get you the job in one of these places you want to be)

>>16428361
I would say it's good to understand smart contracts, but they are still only a tool that lets you build more stuff.

They are just a different kind of programming tool.

I work as a swe for a fang company and I make $250k/yr and you know what? All I know is coding. I don't know about any actual businesses. I can build what I'm told but I don't know enough about any business or induatro to actually recognize a problem and write code that offers value to people who have that problem by solving it for them.

So it's not enough to know how to code- it's not enough to know what kinda of things you can do with smart contracts.

You need to know what your tools (coding skills, blockchain, smart contracts) can do but also you need to learn about problems people have somehow and solve them. Otherwise you end up on an internet forum asking for ideas on how to use smart contracts, like a manual laborer saying he has a hammer and a toolbox but doesn't know what to do with them to make money. Like, maybe for now he should join a local business. Maybe a housing construction place, maybe a local handyman service that serves businesses, etc. But SOMETHING. And at some point he should start to see chances to go off on his own.

Read millionaire fastlane for something you convince you that starting your business is the only way to make it (unless you bought link lol), read Unscripted (especially Unscripted) by the same author for a metric FUCKTON of tips on how to think of ideas and recognize if they have make-it potential (instead of just potential to give you a "job" for the rest of your life)

>>16428446
>All I know is coding
did you go to college?

>>16420148
drone/self driving car maintenance

>>16421573
did you buy on Bookoo DE and sold on Ebay USA oder das gegenteil?

>>16428462
Yeah but I'm hearing more and more of the occasional person who didn't

Here is someone who was a personal trainer, who if I understood his timeline right, learned to code in two months, spent two more months building his own toy projects, and then got a coding job:
https://www.thefastlaneforum.com/community/threads/how-i-got-hired-as-a-software-engineer-without-a-college-degree.92131/

It was hard to understand from his writing but I think he also built a business while working? So you don't need school for it and honestly:

1. The first two years of my schooling were unrelated. I learned more doing java tutorials in highschool than I did in the first two years of college

If I spent those two years coding instead I would probably have been a better coder

Instead, I got some shit coding skills in highschool and then in college we learned some more theoretical computer science stuff and I graduated without actually knowing how to code anything useful. I had to spend six months learning how to build web uis, how databases work, how to write code that powers a website, etc., before I could do HALF the stuff mentioned in junior engineer job postings within a 90minute drive of my parent's house. Once had I half the skills (even though I was BAD at that half, having only done the equivalent of tutorial for each skill and then a shitty, ugly, insecure reddit clone) of any job posting, I would just apply for the job.

If you've got half the shit they need, that's enough for you to get lucky. Think of it like rolling dice- eventually you get the desired outcome.

>>16428557
>I had to spend six months learning how to build web uis, how databases work, how to write code that powers a website, etc., before I could do HALF the stuff mentioned in junior engineer job postings
But I wasn't learning these things full-time. Most of my time after graduating, I was playing videogames and trying to ignore my mom increasingly telling me that I needed to get a job. I probably averaged like 10-15hrs a week of actual programming and learning in those six months. I honestly hate to code, despite learning at 15/16, studying it in school, and spending the last 6-7 years doing it professionally.

The only time I like coding is if I'm building something I person want to build, which is NEVER. Outside the rare two or three occasions in the past fifteen years or so when I had weeks of free time and either vacation or no requirement to work (due to being unemployed and living with my mom).

>>16420954
I cant belive this was said on 4chan. This is a shitty fad that will bring cringe by the boatload for decades to come.

>>16426450
what do you do for example?

>>16420421
never taken into account the fact that planets rotate ?

>>16425728
This is annoying beyond any human limit

>>16425728
fuck u stop posting this

>>16421090
you're a faggot

what makes you think you're gonna be the one in a million who rides the wave first

get over yourself you fucking loser

>>16428794
ahaha faggot you must be wagecucking

>>16420148
ethot breeding farms and resorts

>>16428446
Yeah, exactly. You could build a lot of stuff on it. But why would a consumer prefer it anyway? Why would a consumer prefer blockchain-Amazon over just, you know, Amazon?

Definitely interesting to be able to have databases and file transfer systems on the blockchain, but honestly, what would a consumer get out of that? Definitely see some b2b opportunities here in the future, but what about b2c?

Genuine question.

3D printed steem cell everything.
The future of dildos and fleshlights.
>Literally fucking oneself.

>>16428831
lmao just quit my job on friday
got clients already senpai im a free man

>>16421168
thats retarded, I was making 15k/m with SEO in 2010 by hiring a team of 10 jeets and doing nothing. SEO is dead in terms of profitability. Sure people still do it, but 99.9999% of them are not profitable.

I was not complaining back then and I'm complaining now. Though I've moved on from SEO and make money with modern ways, which I won't mention here because why would I? Not gonna create myself competition unnecessarily.

>>16428917
eComm ads?

The next big thing/think is millennials realising the new battle for freedom is to be fought in cyberspace and the weapons will be the ones out of the cryptosphere (like blockchain). The need to be able to coopt the armies by bribery back into, unironically, mercenaries, so as not to be arrested and trialed as terrorists as inevitably the governments fight back for omnimonopoly. Also, equally relevant, the acknowledgment that financial monopoly isn't disappearing by enforcing theft of the middle classes assets but the opposite, ie. by creating
>more
currencies, each to fill a particular need of a singular segment, a world with as many currencies as there are interests to be met, where they complement and compete when needed and fit instead of the enslavement by fiat monopoly that encroach on all peoples affairs ruthlessly for centuries or more.
How does one profit from that? By
>staying alive.

>>16424458
Imagine writing this on 4chan.
People like you should head back to plebbit
And now kys Ray

>>16428968
you are a retard
kys as well

>>16420421
Based carbon nano tube anon.

What do you think about the idea of creating website like "TOP 10 companies in a certain niche"

I thought about creating the website for dentists in my country. There are over 40 cities with a population of 100k+ people. It would be TOP 10 dental companies in every city so in total it could be 400 companies on lists. Every company would have a profile with reviews, calling/mailing buttons that would generate traffic. I would charge about $50 per month.

Creative agency of anons that participate as a firm and yet opt-in and out for gigs or contracts. also to remove the profit element, the firm is based on how oldfag you are and also apprenticships.

>>16429187
also to really be based and say "hello crypto" lets use PGP to create and sign shit. as many throwaways as possible too. we will always be anon.

>>16429116
also everyone did this idea in 2012-13. google basically delisted it and that basically balkanizes the market (ur gonna be the next local yelp).

Running a Tezos staking service and get lots of people to delegate to you. It will be a full time job securing the biggest network in the world

>>16420148
make money from fuck prostitute

>>16429213
how about competing networks or network fragmentation, or even cooler, networks that are subsumed within networks (aka interfirm models).

this century is gonna be gud.

>>16429200

yeah, but the most important thing is to convince owners of businesses to sign up on the list. rich dentists don't care much about traffic, especially when the price is so low (like 40-50 dollars per month? lol)

>>16429116
If you need to have someone on the internet tell you if your idea is good, there are two possibilities:

1. Your idea sucks shit. People tell you that your idea sucks shit. Some stupid people tell you that your idea is good.

2. Your idea is good. People tell you that your idea sucks shit but steal it and make money on it themselves. Some honest people tell you that your idea is good.

If you have an idea, figure out the cheapest possible way to test it. You can set up two or three of these kinds of websites you're thinking of and then pay for Google ads to send people to them and see what happens. And basically you can do this for any kind of idea you've got- set up a website, spend a few hundred to a couple thousand dollars on Google advertising.

If you don't have that much money, figure out where else to get eyeballs on it from the people you would hope to sell to. Instagram and other social media may have people with thousands of followers who are willing to post about your product with a link to your site for like $25-250.

You don't even need to have a real product for this- you can just collect email addresses and tell people you'll email them when the product is available, and then assume that like 10-30% of those people might actually buy, or you could even have a "buy" button or even entire ordering flow that just tells them something like "sorry, we're sold out" when clicked. This would be even more accurate at telling you if you have a good idea or not: you now know what percentage of your sites visitors will buy, so you can decide if it would be profitable to actually buy or manufacture your product and sell it.

If you have an idea you think has potential, just test it. Asking the internet about it does virtually nothing- at best, your idea just gets stolen.

If you want to know if the thing you want to do has "potential", read the book UNSCRIPTED by the author of millionaire fastlane.

>>16420844
chugger chugger in thi mofucka

>>16428917
> make money with modern ways, which I won't mention here because why would I? Not gonna create myself competition unnecessarily.


nice larp dude , if you are not mention it at least post proof

wagie, crypto and chill.

>>16420427
Only making around $250k a month... guess you're right, all dead.

>>16428589
Boomer (broke) mindset. The entirety of our youngest generation is spending hours a day on TikTok. Call it cringe but that type of leverage is powerful.

Eventually news media will move into TikTok, if they haven't already. Someday these zoomers are going to be making expensive and important life decisions based on what they see on this app, i.e. what type of car should I buy, who should I vote for

>>16428446
>Read millionaire fastlane for something you convince you that starting your business is the only way to make it
You're making 250k a year, you can literally just work for 5 years and then retire

>>16424059
>>16424077
>send to amazon
Amazon is sketchy as fuck. They fuck people over all day every day. You get treated like a fucking Amazon employee and they can freeze your account and your product and your money if they feel like it. Just list your shit on Amazon if you go that route. Dont send it to them and if you use Amazon at all you should create a personal online store and advertise for it and sell yourself directly just in case they fuck with your account.

Fuck amazon.

>>16429677
making 250k a month with what?

>>16430048
yeah but you just posted screenshot from the amazon app.

You just said to do the opposite of what you are doing. You made 27k in sales last month on amazon only, whats with that?

>>16420421
stupid dumbass fag
learn to alien
and to zero point energy

>>16429974
am a zoomer. This just confirms that your generation wants to look at every fad they hardly understand as a forever exploitable source of profit. Whose the boomer again?

>>16420160
Fpbp

>>16424059
>24k in sales
ok but what are your expenses? is that net profit or not?

>>16430099
>cant check IDs
you arent going to make it anon.

>>16430179

55% to 60% profit after all expenses

>>16430133
I'm a millenial. I label you as a boomer based on narrowness of thought. You are labeling based on what, ability/willingness to make money?

Every business exploits something for profit. If you don't understand that, then what are you doing on /biz/? 25 years ago you would have been saying the same thing about the internet being a fad because you were blinded by the dumb pictures and videos and couldn't see the $$$

>>16420148
Employment services

>>16430298
Exploiting is not the same word as advantage. I would think you of any generation would understand, you guys got exploited/fucked the hardest by boomers and got tired of it, now we're about to enter a recession. I'm in my early 20's so I'm pretty excited about it myself anyway. I can tell you're wayyy on the older side since you just compared tiktok to the fucking internet. kek. Are you insane? Could have just tried to compare it to facebook or snapchat instead, but I'm just trying to warn you bro. Vine 2.0 is very hollow, a laughable means to a business.

>>16420148
make the profit from have the sex with prostitute

>>16430228
damn, guess i'm setting up amazon and alibaba accounts now.
any tips/noobie mistakes?

Unironically selling shit in China, we've spent decades buying cheap shit off them and now the tables are turning.

They have one of the largest middle classes in the world now, and just like us westerners they now want the best status symbols they can afford to buy. The trick is some clever marketing to build up your rep, it helps if you've already been in business for awhile but here in Aus our baby formula and wine exports apparently has a good rep over in China, so I don't know, american whisky? It's just has to look like it's niche and 'exclusive'.

>>16429677
Google ads and direct relationships with the companies I promote. This won't be viable for long, I'm going to need to adapt again... been doing internet marketing for 12 years full time. Reinventing is part of it. Ride the waves.

>>16430519
you cant get an import license into china without stroke in the government. i know a bunch of guys who started wine businesses after the mining bubble popped and only the one with the chinese wife (who worked in the embassy in some form) could ship to them

>>16430528
no way you make $3m a year doing google ads rofl

>>16420148
Only thing left is shekelposting, but that's going to get sewn up by AI's

>>16420160
Fpbp and /thread

>>16430566
Well, I have 140k a month in overhead, so you're right. I only pay myself 25k a month, the rest is left in the business.

>>16430555
damn, well there goes my plan then

>>16430606
How can I find a mentor like you? I want to model off someone but in a different niche.

>>16430566
Maybe I'm larping... you hope I am. (I'm not). I built a business around AdWords, but it's getting more difficult to stay alive. I've had a half dozen accounts get suspended this year. You can still make money with AdWords, you just need direct relationships and legit websites.

>>16430606
Q2. Why the fuck are you here? shitposting and giggles?

>>16430637
Trial by fire. I've been through hell to get where I am and I can lose it all any day Google decides to shut it down, and they will eventually. You should focus on building sites with lasting value. I'm making a lot now, but most of my sites are worthless without Google. Make quality sites and feed them content. 100 sites making only $3 each per day is a good living. Try to make a new one each month.

>>16430674
If you were to pick something which would be in huge demand 2-3 years from now though.. What would you do? Assuming you can do a one man show or have only 2-3 people running it.

>>16430674
Why dont you just make your own offers? You sound like a private offer/deal affiliate. Surely one of the offers you promote can be cloned.

>>16430651
I was deep in crypto for about 18 months. I like to see what biz is saying. Plus there are a lot of good ideas that get posted that are too much work for most people that I learn from and capitalize on.

>>16430693
Many of the things I promote are insurance related and I don't have the resources/knowledge to offer plans directly to consumers.

>>16430692
I wish I knew. I'm preparing for my Google house of cards to collapse any month now. My plan B is organic sites in a range of verticals supplemented by paid ads/arbitrage if I can get them approved and not get suspended. Check sites like empireflippers and flippa for ideas. Use Google trends when an interesting vertical presents itself. Consider Amazon vertical specific commission %s. Think of things you can automate. I love web scrapers. Scrape multiple sources to create your own unique content. Always try to reach out to companies directly... affiliate networks will hold you back.

>>16430387
>Vine 2.0
TikTok is the #1 social media app in the world
TikTok has 1.5 billion users registered
TikTok uses machine learning recommendation to remove the need for decision and choice for it's users. They are literally deciding what these 1.5 billion users think, feel, like, do.
TikTok has already invested or has stakes in multiple news companies
Vine failed because they ran out of money, meanwhile TikTok is owned by a massive Chinese corporation called ByteDance.

Next time do your due diligence before you dismiss something because it's "cringe".

Obviously TikTok is not the same as the internet, that was a dramatic comparison to make a point. Don't attack that strawman of my actual argument, which is about the actual value of TikTok. We're in a thread about making money, and to dismiss TikTok entirely as a way of making money by calling it Vine 2.0 is extremely short-sighted.

>Exploiting is not the same word as advantage
Exploit: make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource).
Advantage: the opportunity to gain something; benefit or profit.

Don't play semantics, you'll lose.

>>16430742
Do you have ricochet or any other platform I could contact you on?

>>16430820
>TikTok has 1.5 billion users registered
wtf I only heard of this shit a week ago

>>16430606
140k a month overhead wtf are you spending it on dude?

>>16420148
Invest in silver. The demand is increasing steadily as we produce more and more electronics... or should I say as China produces more and more electronics.

Anyone who invests £10,000 right now, will have a guaranteed profit anywhere between 1-3 years from now.

Honestly the only way precious metals can be perma-fucked is with Asteroid Mining, and that's not gonna happen soon.

>>16420148
Get a job zoomer. Get a job, start a tax-free brokerage account, make maximum annual investments, cash out for high dividend stocks and REITs when you retire.

>>16430820

this is interesting but that app is pure cancer.

how can I make money on that without losing brain cells?

And dont want to put my face on that shit obviously

>>16420160
Fpbp

>>16430519
Give us a breakdown of how the f google ads makes u 250k, i dont buy it

>>16430709
Gotcha. I totally understand what you're doing, and wish you the best with Google. Diversify as much as you can. Godspeed.

>>16431082
holy shit it's almost like all you low IQ zoomers all overestimate your intelligence and walking examples of dunning kruger in action lmfao

i'm glad the internet is letting smart gooks and chinks outsmart spoiled community college dropouts that think that "blogging and drop shipping" are legitimate forms of entrepreneurship

>>16432685

you are saying tiktok is entrepreneurship? ahaha

>>16420148
Buying as many Tesla Model 3's or Y's as possible and getting ready for the Over-The-Air-Update that turns them into Robotaxis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucp0TTmvqOE

>>16432393
I do marketing for rappers and big entertainers/influencers in this space. I talked to a kid last week who has 500k followers on TikTok. He goes on livestream for about an hour each night and can easily pull in 800-1200 dollars. This is through "gifts" and "emojis" which are enabled by non-refundable in app purchases.

As for putting your face on it... not sure what the solution would be. Maybe make an account for your dog or e-whore.

Just some ideas that work for me but go against 90% of /biz/ is go into low tech businesses:

Laundry services, car detailing/repainting, lawn servicing (tree trimming, landscaping), firewood delivery, gutter installer, pressure washing, etc.

These are low skill and low risk but there is great money to be made.

I used low tech businesses to bankroll my real estate and ATM business.

>>16420148
Libra coming online 2020.
I don't want it to get big but it will be big.

However there is a sliver of hope:
https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/04/paypal-looks-is-the-first-company-to-drop-out-of-the-facebook-led-libra-association/

Real crypto is however doomed. Blockstream successfully delayed Bitcoin so much that it is too late.

>>16434114
Buy FB stock before the release btw. Top tip.

>>16434168
sigh, i know i should do it but i also want to be able to go to bed knowing i haven't made the world a worse place

Cams

>>16434244
you mean cooms?