/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16420971
To be honest, Calvin's investment must have been the most inefficient waste of money ever. Considering that he already spent most of what he could afford, his mining operations are in crisis, and Craig is a liability rather than an asset with all his lawsuits, the best days of BSV are likely over.

>>16421007
if there is a general crypto bullrun around halving next year he will have recouped easily.

>>16421007
BSV is growing exponentially, new apps and businesses are popping up every day now.

The protocol wars is already over, you just haven't realized it yet.

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>>16420971
protip: going down in history as a MASSIVE FRAUD
>t. paid troll n antichrist
it's a worth wondering, how often these chancers describe literally everything (else) as 'FRAUD!'. Little or no difference now between Calvin and cregs babblings, except Calvins now continually complaining, how much this shit has cost him. This is Not A Good Sign

>>16422055

This is what paradigm shifts usually look like

A lot of confusion, FUD and naysayers saying it won't work

A fucking boomer, with a zoomer haircut is a huge red flag. How does a boomer pretending to be a zoomer even have 100 M to begin with?

>>16422276
this.. him and csw def gay out

>>16420971
How come nobody on twitter calls this pedo out on his blatant exploitation of underage latino and asian girls?

What are they doing in the UK? I want to know why he and craig seem linked bong government.

>>16422055
So nchain is a “project” on SV? Fuck i didnt know. Also, all apps created by nchain, such as weathersv and all the SV ripoff apps are mindblowing stuff. Truly a revolution worth 100M eur

>>16422603
Going to need to see some examples fren.

>>16420971
DOUBLE DIGIT SHITCOIN
soon

>>16422276
He's a billionaire with a fortune based off gambling websites.

>>16422055
>The protocol wars is already over, you just haven't realized it yet.
that's true sv lost in 2018
like a little bitch i might add

>>16422672
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>>16422775
Cope

>>16423048
do you know the difference between design and utility patents? it doesn't seem like you do....

>>16420971
I eagerly await your suicide in 2020, OP.

>>16422672
>So nchain is a “project” on SV?
Yes. Just like any business building on SV is a project.

>>16423110
The cope is only just beginning

90% chance you will have KYS at this point next year.

>>16423048
>proof of patents
>proof of shitposting
kek you are in for a rough awakening.

>faketoshi
>bitcoin streetshitter version

Bahahahahahaha kys subhuman penny posters

>>16423189
Friendly reminder that SV transactions are growing at an exponential rate and will have next to (if not enough) volume to make up the difference in block subsidy come the next halving.

>>16423189
>WeatherSV + Websites on Blockchain
Imagine the roman empire formulated a currency system that used a significant portion of its gold and military might to enshrine the scatological graffiti found among the various bath houses in rome.

Imagine that this new system completely intertwined this random graffiti and their currency in such a way that it was impossible to differentiate where one started and the other finished. Grocery list, IOU's, advertisements, "for a good time call", drawings of random penises, all of it became the fundamental reserve of each and every roman coin.

Who would have the intelligence to speak against this?

>>16423189
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/sentinusd-btc-bsv.html#log
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionvalue-btc-bsv.html#log
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionfees-btc-bsv.html#log

REKT

>>16423208
it's all spoof there is no value transacted on sv thee are no fees to sustain miners it's all bullshit because this is the cheapest metric they can spoof to reel in retards like you.

>>16423213
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>YOU CAN'T JUST USE BITCOIN FOR PUSH DATA ITS SUPPOSE TO ONLY BE FOR 3 PAYMENTS A SECOND

>>16423240
what bitcoin is:
- a trustless permissionless publicly auditable ledger that is also secure
- a non-custodial peer-to-peer electronic payment system
- a network of nodes enforcing a common ruleset shaping a common reality in a trustless manner
- the longest blockchain under the consensus ruleset with the largest commulative hash proven by a specific form of proof of work
- a protocol that describes how consensus is reached on ordering transactions and how difficulty and coinbase supply adjusts over time
- a greater consensus on the ruleset that governs the protocol
- a standard reference client implementation created by nakamoto and maintained as an open source project

what bitcoin is not:
- a whitepaper
- a gargantuan garbage dump of stale data stored immutably forever
- whatever satoshi said in a forum post
- whatever faketoshi dreams up in delirium
- whatever sv jeets shrill and rave about currently

>>16423231
See
>>16423240
Miners don't give a fuck if you're sending a penny or a million dollars. Fees are the same. They only care that the chain is getting massive transaction volume. Which SV is the only one setup to do so.

>>16423260
volume doesn't depend on block size. what sort of retard are you? you can send a billion dollars in a single transaction.

>>16423279
You're a fucking idiot. I didn't say anything about amount sent in a transaction effecting blocksize. Gorilla nigger iq.

>>16423240
>decentralized
I still have the yt vid of the money button guy begging for donations when cerg first started spamming the blockchain endlessly. the poor dude was trying to self-host a node but it was growing by 1gb per day...he eventually gave up.
imagine creg filling up all users harddrives with that much garbage + illegal content...its preddy funny really.

>>16423290
volume is the amount transacted everyone uses it like that. that's the most important adoption metric but it can also be spoofed somewhat it's just too obvious.

>>16423297
meanwhile you need about 500mb to run a bitcoin full node in pruning mode for the next few years.

>>16423297
Link to video.

>>16423300
>he still doesn't get it
Most transactions are push data and always will be. To think microtransactions (which is Bitcoins true killer app) are suppose to be all high value payments is missing the forest for the trees.

>>16423333
quads speaketh truth

>>16423333
he pulled vid and files copyright claims against anyone who posts, but luckily still in his blog.

>>16423379
So shit that never happened? Got it.

Moneybutton is a payment processor on top of Bitcoin. This has nothing to do with Bitcoin scaling itself. Their particular model requires high network connectivity. Someone like Crypto Fights, Bitboss, Weather SV, etc. Don't have these kind of issues. We can't just halt everything because Moneybutton has business expenses.

>>16423421
>we cant stop spamming
what a disaster of a community. how many full nodes are there these days? 7?

>>16423460
You're inability to understand things is striking.

>>16423421
how did it never happen ?
cregs insistence on shitting up the chain with complete fucking garbage fucked a bsv fanboys hopes of running a node. What here 'never happened' ? And, when you (obviously) don't give a shit about small adopters, and big companies (even more obviously) won't touch you with a shitty stick because disreputable liars and scammers.. where then does that leave you ? oh. thas right. fucked, is where it leaves you

>>16423566
Holy shit you're assmad lmao.

X never cried for a handout, nigger.

>>16423581
>please creg...please institute this long string of BIPS...i'm going broke creg....please, just 6 bips can make the difference between me making it and not....pleeeze creg!!!
god you guys are bad liars.

>>16423603
>just makes shit up as he goes

For what purpose?

>>16423620
>Since we do not earn money from transaction fees like miners, it will be too expensive for us to run a node.
>However, wallets do not need to run a node.
>If wallets mutually adopt [1]paymail, [2]BIP 270 (with some extensions, including [3]BIP 271, [4]BIP 272 and [5]BIP 273), and [6]Miner ID, no wallets will need to run a node, and every wallet will be substantially less expensive to operate at scale.

>footnotes:
>[1]-[6] Pleeze creg....pleeze add these bips....i'm going broke!!!!

>>16423648
I like how you idiots believe any appeal at all is directly related to creg. It's even more hilarious when creg is on the record stating that moneybutton is interesting, but he doesn't care if it's particular business model survives. You guys have completely missed the point of what nChain is doing. You expect a centralized body to pick winners in the market and it's fucking funny.

>>16423662
>You expect a centralized body to pick winners in the market
bsv is 100% a centralized body, calvin. he needs to hold 60+% of mined bsv otherwise price would collapse to single digits quickly. he knows that, we know that, and you know that.

>>16423333
>Most transactions are push data and always will be.
not on bitcoin. on bitcoin pushed data is garbage. the real value is in the ledger. the real value is the utxo set.

>>16421007
Yeah I agree sounds like he is coping pretty hard and entering despair lmao

>>16423709
100% cope post.

>>16423711
Kys commie nigger

>>16423732
>Kys commie nigger
no you kill yourself. if you can't comprehend the simple truth that the only value in bitcoin is tha trustless permissionles publicly auditable and secure ledger then you have no idea what bitcoin is. the blockchain itself is a means to an end it represents no value in itself. the pow blockchain is a way to reach distributed consensus in a byzantine tolerant way. but once consensus is reached it's just garbage.

HDD's can't write a terabyte every 10 minutes

you'll need something like https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-SN750-250GB-Internal-Gaming/dp/B07M64QXMN/?tag=edit-tech-round-up-20&ascsubtag=f8e506d7-62b0-4cd2-8ec1-12004a0463fa and you'll need one every 10 minutes

144 blocks a day x 365 days = 52,560 x $207.99 = $10,931,954.40 a year

>>16420971
oh yes, he is protected by his patents
that's why his bitcoin copyright is not enforceable and neither of his patents are active or being enforced

>>16423747
I would advise learning about microtransactions and how that opens up a whole new world of development never thought possible. Actually don't (I know you wouldn't anyway, but still) I don't want idiots making money.

>>16423750
whoops it's $220.00 now that'll be $11,563,200 a year*

>>16423776
your arguments are nonsensical and or weak or simply non-arguments. what's the point of speaking if you have nothing to add?

>>16423787
I'm so happy you don't get it. Really, I am. Hodl strong!

>>16420971
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>>16423566
>>16423709
IT'S NOT CALVIN'S MONEY. He is a front/actor because he's a billionaire and friends with CSW. Since he's a billionaire, people are fooled into thinking he is funding everything because he has the cash flow. CSW has support from a couple governments and intelligence agencies. People were baited and fell for the 'decentralized' and 'financial freedom' meme since 2009. BSV was always supposed to be the final Phoenix.

>>16423834
>IT'S NOT CALVIN'S MONEY
THEN TELL HIM TO STOP BEING SO FUCKING BUTTHURT ABOUT SETTING IT ON FIRE THEN POURING IT DOWN AN OVERFLOWING ABBO SHIT LATRINE CONMAN NAME OF creg

>>16423801
you are a brainlet and you will get rekt holding that double digit shitcoin.

>>16423932
Ok, Boomer.

>>16423942
okay brainlet! good talk.

>>16422276
Jelly

>>16424010
Seething

>>16420971
So... what's Craig's angle for committing this massive act of fraud?
If you guys are right, he's probably a continuing intelligence asset trying to direct crypto traffic back to a modus that law enforcement can easily track.
But I mean, if that's not the case... then why would you throw yourself into this complete circus when you could just as easily defraud your way into a top paying investment management position without nearly the same level of scrutiny.

>>16424223
>He doesn't know Bitcoin is designed as an immutable PUBLIC ledger.

>>16424223
>his angle
he literally can't help himself. Its that achilles heel of the confidence man, the irresistible urge to fly closer to the Sun. And what bigger Sun than the (currently, uninhabited) Satoshi persona ?
May as well ask a pitbull not to bite your baby or a mangy cooter not to shit all over your garden, as ask creg not to lie, fraud, cheat and steal. Its inevitable, unpreventable and unavoidable. As will be his end.