/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>16368059
>strategies for finance if I do get married
talk to a local divorce lawyer don't listen to /biz/ for this one

>>16368068
And where do you think the divorce lawyer gets his information?

>>16368059
OP, 12 guys is pretty gross. At least for me. Just make sure you're comfortable with it and know she's lost a significant portion of her ability to bond. The higher that number the higher the odds of divorce (unless you can keep her in a constant state of pregnancy).

>>16368059
/biz/ is the last place you should ask for this advice - these fuckers know less about women than even me!
The only thing I can ask is - would she be devestated if you left her? Does she believe you're out of her league (even if it's not true, does she think you are?)?

Don't tie your fate to a woman, I'm not even talking about finances, I'm talking about fate unless you know that you complete her fucking world. At the same time, don't believe the sweet talking - do her actions show that she'll do anything to keep you? Is she loyal to a fault? Does she give other women the stinkeye when they are nice to you?

>>16368059
She is a nasty woman. Dont do it. You will regret it. It cant be the guys fault 12 times, she is a bitch

>>16368121
you are thinking too much, she is a thot period.

>>16368059
12 guys, thats a lot list lol

>>16368059
12? wtf? don't waste another second with her OP.

>>16368059
No, absolutely not. And there's 99% chance she's lying about that number. Your gf sounds like a whore looking for a beta provider to settle down with, but these types generally don't stay tied for too long. As soon as she pops out your first kid she will already be looking at other options and having divorce at the back of her mind.

>>16368059
>>16368059
>12 guys

Rule of 3, well it used to be, probably closer to a 5x multiplier now.

>When a man tells you how many women he has fucked
Divide by 3

>When a woman tells you
Multiply by 3

Well now 5x

Even if you multiply by 3, you get 36; 5, 60. It's probably even higher given women these days

You are dealing with a dirty whore who wants your money. How many did you say you fucked? Who revealed first? Remember women judge your worth based on the supposed # of women you've fucked (they will minimize this), then their # is something they will make up to make it seem 'equal'.

If it's more than 2 or 3 serious relationships you're dealing with a fucking insane bitch, literally bipolar schizo or narcisstic psychopath or some combination of both. She will take all your money, all your self-worth and completely destroy you. If you have a kid, she will only have it if she deems it as a legitimate pawn in eventual divorce rape which 90% of women engage in these days (judges are always sympathetic towards mothers with kids, especially when she accuses you of fake domestic violence). Just go to a fucking r*ddit forum for empowered women and look at the advice they give on how to maximize divorce rape gains, guaranteed you will never think of marriage with some used up worthless cum dump.

Remember, whore who claims 12 guys = 50+ = whore = wanting to marry for money and being "nice" is going to divorce rape you, and likely is cheating on you with randoms on the regular as she is literally incapable of forming intimate feelings for another person.

>>16368059
I feel like I’ve been w your chick actually. She still messages all the time despite being w you. That’s the problem w these girls, they can’t stop craving the guys they’re not with, it’s really bad actually.

>>16368059
this has to be b8 or you're the biggest pussy I've ever seen on this board

Make international accounts if you can be smart enough not to spill it them you'll be even more fucked. Women are better than God himself but when it comes to finances they'll socialize TF out of the whole supply

>>16368059
12 guys really means 36-48 guys. I'll leave it at that.

>>16368059
Also pray to fucking god you haven't been in a common wealth state with her for more than 6 months, ie. Canada or Australia, in which case she already gets 50% of everything. This doesn't even count actual cohabitation, but as long as long as she left some items at your apartment, and had sexual or "emotional" relations with you, 6 months qualifies you as common-law and she is entitled under your cuck governments marriage laws.

Let me give you an example. A friend in Canada went on a few dates with a girl he met, she was a TURBO thot, fucking >1 guy/night type of psychopath that only cared about dopamine hits via dick. Of course she knew how much he was worth by sweet talking him into giving him his password which was his online banking password, calling in to assess his assets, etc.

She ended up accidentally leaving some personal hygiene products at his apartment (took pictures each time). Used tampons and condoms were their weight in polaroid gold. Anyways,

He ended up killing himself after she gained >100% of his equity in the apartment, his car and investments despite having no contact for many months (thanks to a (((based feminist judge)))) and all the while having fucked dozens of guys a week.

>>16368059
You'll be divorced in 2 years. She'll take half and be on to fucking #50. 10 of those were behind your back during two years of marriage.

>>16368352

>>16368352
>Of course she knew how much he was worth by sweet talking him into giving him his password which was his online banking password, calling in to assess his assets, etc.

Ahahaha! What a fucking moron!

>He ended up killing himself after she gained >100% of his equity in the apartment, his car and investments despite having no contact for many months (thanks to a (((based feminist judge)))) and all the while having fucked dozens of guys a week.
Darwin award by the sounds of it. Imagine actually giving a woman you're dating the password to your bank account?!? WTF.
He was too stupid to have that money in the first place.

>>16368059
>The thing is she has been with 12 guys, at least what she told me
You are a cuck. She has cheated on you no doubt. This will end in disaster.

Oh, almost forgot.

>>16368489
He was so fucked up mentally by this psychopath (virtually all thots are narcisstic psychopaths; they are liars, master manipulators, they fake emotion, etc; they just want to feel some pleasure whether it be dick in clit by a random, attention via IG or drama, etc)

>>16368533
No, she gained his trust slowly, initially by unlocking his phone to make calls or check something (she claimed she couldn't find her phone despite it being between her tits), etc. Then once the supposed trust built, she used his debit card, and he gave her his pin#, then asked for his fb password etc etc.. until she figured out his banking shit. Let this be a lesson to retards here

>>16368117
>OP, 12 guys is pretty gross. At least for me. Just make sure you're comfortable with it

This. It doesn't matter what we think, as long as you can marry this girl and 5 years down the line remember that she's fucked 12 dudes and be OK with that. Also remember that women tend to lower their number big time, especially to guys they care about, so that number could be much much higher than that for all you know.

If you're OK with that, then move forward with things. But if there's even a minuscule part of your mind that says "I'm not really okay with that," then for the love of God do not get married.

>>16368059
>I'm thinking of marrying my gf of 3 years. The thing is she has been with 12 guys, at least what she told me.
It's most likely more than 12 if she tells you it's 12. If you aren't larping then make sure to get a prenup (and make sure it actually works in your country).
In my country you can even keep assets earned after you enter into marriage seperate. Trust me, it's worth it. I know it feels like you will stay together forever right now, but if she has been with that many guys then there's a pretty high risk that you will break up at some point in the future. Just look at divorce statistics..
If you end up not getting a good prenup and divorce her in 15 years you will regret it for the rest of your life.

Only marry women as rich as you are (or richer).
Every marriage problem is solved by that, ignore everything else about number of sexual partners, race, and shit, as long as you got similar income and assets, you will be fine in the end.

>>16368571
>No, she gained his trust slowly, initially by unlocking his phone to make calls or check something (she claimed she couldn't find her phone despite it being between her tits), etc.
You're as big a fool as he is if you believe that.
Imagine actually being outsmarted by a woman.

>>16368645
>underestimating a lifeform that for thousands of years specialized in predating/parasiting what you are
You are the real fool here.

>>16368645
Yeah he was a nerd / never had a girlfriend type. Highly manipulative, older, etc. Psychopaths know how to find their mark. I have a case of a former friend who found some autistic girl and kept her locked up in a cage and beat her to the point she can't escape

>>16368660
Why, because i don't think with my dick? Sounds like the opposite of a fool.

12 is actually considered very low now

>>16368623
> ignore everything else about number of sexual partners, race, and shit
Yikes bro. Even if number of sexual partners doesn't say anything about a person (it definitely does), Most women go for men who are wealthier than them. I have $700k in liquid assets at 25 yo. It's very difficult to find a woman in that range at my age.
Idk about the laws in other countries, but in my country prenups actually work. You can keep all assets that you acquired before AND during marriage seperate.

>>16368660
I knew the cunt for who she was, but he was too weak, took the trust of the pussy above that of a bro

Now he's dead.

>>16368568

I feel that the non-marital 0 partners data are just straight lying psychopaths that say they are really happy, all women are the same for me

>>16368689
>Most women go for men who are wealthier than them.
Because they are smart.

>It's very difficult to find a woman in that range at my age.
So keep fooling around until you find them. Seriously, if you find someone that you are compatible enough to think about marrying, and she got the income for it, you are set - it is not just about divorce, it is about winning in life.
You can always find a concubine to reproduce with, marriage is about something more.

>>16368739
You can't miss the cocaine the you never snorted.
Multiple partners is like junk food, it is very hard to keep a lifelong healthy diet once you introduce this shit to your body.

>>16368762
What’s your advice for someone trying to start dating? The older I get the harder it seems, not because I lack confidence in my approach, but because I’m very cautious because of all the shit in today’s society, and I don’t know how to interview a women properly. And it makes me very depressed. I don’t think a man can go without women too long, as much as they are pain in the ass sometimes.

>>16368762
> You can always find a concubine to reproduce with, marriage is about something more.
Right. Which is why I don't care all that much about a woman's net worth. If I really like a girl then it doesn't really matter to me what her net worth is. I have/ make enough money to not have to worry about money.
All else being equal I would obviously prefer to marry a rich woman, but things like personality, looks, how good a mother she would be etc. are more important to me.

>>16368739
Have you seen truly happy people before?

>>16368811
Fuck multiple girls and keep your options open until someone worth keeping appear.
Get rid of them once they start becoming expensive.
If/when you do find a keeper, stop dogging around, at least until you dump her for sure.
Preserver your young sperm if you want kids (it is not expensive at all) and you will no longer feel pressured to settle.

>>16368836
>I have/ make enough money to not have to worry about money.
That is what you are ignoring, having a woman that can make money is not about fucking money, it is about good genes, a responsible partner and a myriad of other things that your average "good-looking-wide-hipped-20-something" simply lacks.
You can be stupid and bow to your basic instincts, but that is not going to help you (or your offspring) thrive in this world.

A woman with over 10 premarital partners has a 100% statistical chance of her first marriage ending in divorce. Do whatever you want, but this has been studied and observed several times now.

>>16368978
>A woman with over 10 premarital partners has a 100% statistical chance of her first marriage ending in divorce. Do whatever you want, but this has been studied and observed several times now.

Can we get a source on this?

All women are whores

>>16368059
>12 guys,
The number is around 25.

With women you multiply sex count by 3 and with men you divide by 3 for the truth.

So her count is 36.

>>16368059
> Greater than 50% chance of divorce
> She gets half

Just go to Vegas and bet half of everything, and your happiness, on black. It's just as good statistically.

>>16368978
>premartial

It doesn’t matter if they are premarital or not. You can just say 10 partners. Whether she was married 10 times or not, both are a red flag. Marriage itself is just an imaginary legal construct, just like the state is an imaginary legal construct

>>16368623

This. I'm gonna marry a bitch with a nice career who makes about the same as me. Can't lose in this situation.

>>16368995
Read
>>16368568

There's another chart like this showing just divorce. Each partner correlates with about a 10% increase

>>16369046

It won't feel imaginary when the judge reams you for alimony and child support that is based off your gross income

Really, the problem is not women at all, the problem is government. It seems like if you got rid of the government it would solve almost all these ‘women’ problems

>>16369216
Without mandatory alimony, divorce laws and bureaucrats regulating prostitution and moms-for-hire, the USA productivity would increase by AT LEAST 20% in two fucking years.
If I can use an app to find me a sweet fuck just as easy as I order a pizza, and can buy the genes that I need to make a kid just as easy as I rent a house, there is zero incentive for me to accept bullshit from girls.

>>16368205
>just be a chad
>you’re not alpha enough bro and she’ll stay

This is why this is bad advice. She fucked 60 guys, probably half of them were Chad anyway, doesn’t mean she still didn’t cheat on Chad for Tyrone or another Chad.

>>16369262
Also, once they find a cure for stds. Once you start going into double digit counts or the escort route, your chance of stds goes pretty high, even w condom.

>>16368059
12 guys couldn't solve her but you're lucky number 13

dont be retarded op

>>16369322
Even without a cure, the market got all kind of solutions to mitigate this problem.
All that we actually need is for the government to get out of this, but (they) don't you to have a chance of fucking multiple hot girls at affordable rates.
With fully available prostitution and child bearing services, wannabe wives will have to bend backward to get husbands, and that would force them to pretend to have real values - which would fuck up the easy life of a lot of politicians.
Most people won't give a fuck about women rights, abortion and "my body, my rules!" when those things regain the rightful status of services/merchandise that they deserve. It would be beautiful to see "feminists" fighting each other for Anon sperm (and the two years of employment that comes with it).

>>16368059
>12 guys

>>16368059
she'll probably settle at around 26 partners.

>>16368059
why not just date an 18-20 year old who's been with 1-2 guys instead? then mold her to be the person you want as a wife

>>16369467
Because those biches are poor and usually full FOMO.

>>16368352
and my dad works at nintendo
post his obit so we can laugh

>>16369433
seriously tho, this is on the rise
a lot of the whamen i went to high school with ended dropping out of college, work at the grocery store or food service, have lots of tattoos and are such sloots.
like i'm just chilling in grad school and play vidya all day while they struggle to support their kids when their baby daddies left
sounds like voyeurism bc it kinda is lmao they're all gonna an hero

>>16368623
>Only marry women as rich as you are (or richer).
An unnatural occurrence in human history, and antithetical to female sexual preference (hypergamy).
Marry a woman who is virtuous and who never betrays your trust. Freely test that trust throughout the relationship and before complete commitment to ensure the trust is really there.

>>16370048
>talking about what is natural in a Mongol noodle confederation
>allowing female preference to dictate your actions
>not aiming for the best just because it is difficult
>settling for bullshit like virtue and the illusion of loyalty without the previous proof of work aka wealth
Why are you trying to incentive others to be bottom feeders?
Poor women are basically walking latrines.

>>16368059
marriage is betting half your shit you will still only fuck her when shes a grandma

How bad the 12 is also depends on your own number. If you fucked less than 24 women, don't do it.

>>16368205
My asian gf said she only slept with 1 person before meeting me, is what you're saying only true in regards to white women?

>>16368179
>>16368151
My gf has been with 50+ and fucks like a pornstar. Stop being incels.

>>16370170
She meant only one white guy.
For each white guy, three Asians.
For each Asian, three niggers.
For each nigger, three dogs.
For each dog, three octopi.
Yes, Asians are weird like that.

>>16370244
>fucks like a pornstar
So, she is always fucking drugged, with other people watching and can't orgasm?

>>16368059
>discuss most financial decisions together afterward.

No. Why. You do finance stuff, she does not need to be involved

You are showing doubts based on her previous behavior. It's not an ultimatium, but I'd suggest you go with your doubt and not marry her. You, as a husband, are promising to devote your life to build the relationship and family with your wife, from every step of the way. If you don't feel comfortable with the decisions your potential wife has made, then don't marry her, as that is your primitive brain going alert and saying 'there is a risk here, but I'm not sure.'

I want to repeat, this is not an all or nothing situation. She has had multiple sex partners, who she willingly chose to spend time with. She is completely entitled to such actions, but you are entitled to judge her on her actions. She is also entitled to the same on your previous partners and decisions.

I wouldn't do it. I personally hold the belief that sex should be between two partners who have an emotional connection before the sex. Sex is a commitment in it's on right, a responsibility. You're having sex to determine emotional bonds, intimacy, how well the partner is willing to pleasure you and you her.

>>16368059
> The thing is she has been with 12 guys, at least what she told me.

KEK
Feeling good with my virgin asian cutie

>>16368352
im calling bullshit

>>16368680
its always been low you fucking virgins. how old are you people?

>>16368059

better to have a gril who had lots of guys then one who doesnt, she had the opportunity to compare and now ended up with you so chances are small she wants to vrave other dick just for curiosity's sake.

>>16370170
>believing women, especialyl asian ones

>>16370100
>settling for bullshit like virtue
You will always be miserable

>>16368352

that guy sounds idiotic, if you are killing yourself, kill her, there is literally nothing to lose

>>16371018
> degenerate

>>16368059
12 guys is disgusting but you won’t find anyone with less if you live on the west, a lot of girls have done it with 12 guys before they even graduate high school

I am currently in this kind of situation where I need to take decision if I should marry her or not.

We have been together almost 4 years, we know our families well, her parents have a lot of land which will be given to us if we will eventualy get maried.

However I am not sure of it. I have doubts. I dont know if it is not too soon for me. On the other hand, soon I will start to get bald and might not find a qt gf again.

It fucking sucks bros.

>>16368059
Look up MGTOW, watch some youtube videos
Sandman
and some others
https://www.youtube.com/user/SandmanMGTOW
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM96pu5VCp13f7P8Ar7qUjg


>been with 12 guys
triple that number to be conservative, women don't tell the truth and downplay it they don't consider one time flings or other shit in that number so who knows how many.

>3 years
thats too soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wgstslohOw

>>16368059
I would never marry my gf, almost 3y with her now, and she was a virgin when i met her. And its not just her, its marriage in general, but my decision is more based on freedom, not so much in the financial part.

>>16370244
Cuck

>>16368665
>a former friend who found some autistic girl and kept her locked up in a cage and beat her to the point she can't escape

>>16368352
this may be false, but pic related certainly isnt
we're unironically living in a feminist dystopia for no other reason but the fact that pandering to the 50% female vote and satisfying their dick envy by btfoing males, all the while having half of the males themselves support such a thing, will always get you the most votes. There are very rare exclusions like Trump who can tank it through charisma, but the vast majority of the political elite in this world panders to females and will continue to pander even more as feminists keep radicalizing regular females, making them vote for only the "feminist ally" candidates which then ends up making females a protected class by the state against males. You think this is bad? Just wait for Hillary to win the next election, which she will because she'll pander to the females twice as hard as she did last time.

>>16368059
1
https://roastie.club/

2
12 means 24.

3
If yours is a healthy relationship, and if you're going to be a swinger couple of orgies enthusiasts in an open marriage, that's ok. Otherwise, eh.

>>16368121
based. if you haven't had a woman that worships you you haven't lived yet

>The thing is she has been with 12 guys, at least what she told me.

She had 40+ guys rawdogging her and cumming in her mouth.

>>16368059
also, crypto is literally made to avoid death by divorce rape, unless you buy high and sell low

>>16368059
>discuss strategies for finance if I do get married
do not expect scraps of paper to save your ass. If you're unsure look at what others do in your country. I live in the netherlands so many with money dump their shit in malta, cyprus, santa lucia, south korea, etc.
if anything consult a financial advisor, one with notable clients. Whatever his advice will cost is always cheaper than getting gaped in family court

>>16368568
Research Telegony OP.

>>16368059
>1 post by this ID
>88 replies

Fuck you /biz/

>>16372164
even if he post one , others know the dangers and knowledge.

>>16370244
God this is sad. 90% of a woman's value is purity the other 10% is looks

My gf was a virgin

She said the first guy she was with came before he could put it in

So her hymen was still intact. feels good man

pair bonding is real

Marriage is a hustle women do when they're tired of working a dead end job so they leech off some poor schmuck for a few years and throw him off when they grow tired of him. The man, desperate for pussy and too lazy or unable to easily get it elsewhere falls for this trap and loses a sizable amount of the assets he has accumulated for over a decade. Marriage in the modern era, its continuity no longer being supported by societal expectations or the legal system, has proven to be a costly mistake for most men that engage in it.

In some instances, the man is obligated to provide financially for a bastard son result of an infidelity, even when he can prove in court that the son is not his with the DNA tests in hand.

All in all, marriage is a poor decision that goes against a man's best interests, result of societal brainwashing and a lack of critical thinking skills.

>>16368059
Retard

>>16373263
I didn't know that 2 partners was just as bad as 10+. However, being virgin doesn't guarantee loyalty. Both sets of my grandparents were virgins and still got divorced. and even my parents talked about too.

Really, in the end, as a guy, all I care about is,
1) protection from stds
2) protect my assets

minimize #of total lifetime partners (less than 10) solves #1. (doesn't matter how many condoms you use, as there is a chance of failure, and statistically its an inevitable numbers game if you have enough partners)

And virginity, is just a hypothesis, to solve both of these. It's not that I care specifically about virginity, it's just that no one has offered any other solutions to solve #1 and #2.

>>16368059


No no nonononoonnooooooo!

Fucking NO NIGGA. You my man are getting screwed. Fucking I wish I could call you right the fuck now and speak this into your ear, and I know you're one of these beta simps that is going to call me misogynistic but I'm going to give you the fucking truth now anyways.

So she says 12, that means 300, It really doesn't matter that I exaggerate to 300, because it may as well be 300. The reason they try to give a lower number is because they fucking know a good man does not want to pay for used goods. She tried to give you a 'high' number count like that because you know she's been around the block so she can't give you a number like 3. She went with 12 because 12 sounds like a lot to you, because only Chads and Tyrones get to sleep around with different women just like that. Chads and Tyrones are an archetype, so your boy George Clooney and Leo Dicaprio are also part of that Chad and Tyrone Crew, your exconvicts, your felons, your hoodrats that are muscled up, they're all Chads and Tyrones, who women DO NOT ASK FOR MARRIAGE, but they allow them to bang them out with the intention of trapping them with their pussy. They don't give Chads and Tyrones a hard time on the front end, they let them into the pussy just like that, they throw the pussy at them hoping it will stick to them and marriage and resources will come after.

You my friend are not a chad or tyrone, the men that women make wait are not the women they are aroused by, they are attracted to what you can provide for her, but not really aroused by you. If you don't know what it's like to get your dick sucked on the first day you meet, do fuck on the first night, to get pornstar deepthroating doggystyle, fingerbanging, handjobbing, rimjobbing, 69ing whorish sex, then you haven't been that Chad or Tyrone in a womans life.

marriage used to be a sacred bond between a man and a woman for life, nowadays it's just a way for women to extract resources while banging tyrone on the side while you are hard at work trying to make a living. so definitely no-no for me, it's a trap

>>16369066
>can’t possibly lose

Imagine marrying in 2019. What a pathetic cuck.

Even a 20-something incel that will never have sex is less pathetic than the beta chump that marries, because at least he isn't going to get shafted as hard as he is about to.

>>16368582
>Also remember that women tend to lower their number big time,
a safe rule is to 2X what number they say

>>16373410

When a woman breaks her vow to the first man, she's never going to be the same again. Some people say it's 3 men, or 6, or 10, or that it varies, but I think it's 1. After the first guy, if she breaks up with him, it's over for her, she can never commit to a man by herself. Her word means nothing.

I'm what you call a beta in the sense that I've never cheated on a woman, but for me, that means if I'm with a woman, I know I'm not going to cheat. If another me pops out from another dimension, we'll know we can trust each other over that one little thing. Women are dirty creatures, they will actively seek to break that one bond if they've already broken it before. They want the thrill and rush of a new relationship over and over. They get bored with the same guy for a period of time. 12 guys means 300, meaning it's way more than what she's told you and you shouldn't commit to this woman.

Seriously, 12 guys, what makes you think anything about you is an amalgamation of the best of those 12 guys that she's had, which will prevent you from being number '13', or more like 301? Are you six foot tall? Are you minimum six in long? Are you earning six figures? You got a six figure worth home? You got a six figure rotation of concubines to let this bitch know you're worth a damn? Like come on son. The more a woman sleeps around, the more entitled they become. The more a man sleeps around, the more confident he gets, just because he sleeps with a hundred women, doesn't mean he expects double D tits, thick ass, pornstar level body and gorgeous face, we're not fucking stupid, it doesnt work like that, we don't compare our previous bitches to current ones we're fucking, we just love fucking bitches. Women aren't like that, they love fucking, but if you marrying her, you better be all of those above if you don't want her to go to the club when she's mad at you and accidentally let a cock fall into her. It wasn't her fault was it? It was the alcohol right?

watch and learn blue pilled manginaz, watch and learn....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxB4phU_UqQ

>>16373410
I dont know if Im attractive or not. Alot of girls hit on me, but is it bc they think im a chad or bc they think they have money? I dont know how to 'test' women.

>>16373502
“Accidentally” leave a couple hundred bucks somewhere she’ll find it to see if she gives it back and move up from there.

There is no reason to ever get married. Women in the West are already married to the government and receive all benefits of traditional marriage from the government.

So why exactly would you become a second provider for a woman who has no incentive to stay with you?

>>16368762


dickhead it's not because they're smart, it's because they're primed by nature to be natural gold diggers, it ensures the future of the offspring. You will never see women marrying down, let alone marrying down and being happy.

>>16368811


nigga you have to work on yourself for the bitches to come to you. Work on your physique, you gotta sacrifice two to three years in the gym at least. Man none of this shit is easy, y'all fuckin looking for a cheat code and there is none. 4 months I've put on 4 kilos, you can't even see the weight on me, but I feel better, my confidence is up, women look at me differently from something about my aura, not even my physique yet. If I keep this up, in a few years I'l be thicker and the women will actually then look at me for my body too. Already though, the slight physical change and a topless selfie of me looking shredded has women messaging me back finally. Even get messages from a woman every now and then, they're ugly, but the confidence boost is unreal, because these women are always shooting way above their pay grade, so I know I'm on the level of the girls I actually want.

Go to the gym, work on your finances, work on your style, realise that men are not meant for women, they're parasites designed by nature to breed us by copying us with their babymaker. Realise on a base level, when a bitch admires you and wants to fuck you, it's her biology telling her to make a copy of you.

>>16368811


You can go your entire lifetime without a woman once you've had a few and realised they're parasites. You my friend sound like you haven't experienced any women. Gym, finances, and style, get experienced talking to people, position yourself into place of status, even if it's your own like being a business owner, and the bitches will be attracted to you, that's just a foot in the door.

Too much to type, I'm eating my fucking lunch trying to get you to not be a beta cuck, so go onto youtube and subscribe to these guys, I don't care if you think they're misogynistic you fucking prick, just listen to their shit, then go out into the real world and start fucking noticing what's going on in front of your very fucking eyes in the clubs, the restaurants, places where men and women interact, and your interactions with women, you will notice they use their feminine manipulation to get weak men like you to do what they want. Anyways:

Alpha Male Strategies (positive, will help you with the dating scene)
Coach Greg Adams (positive life advice)
UndeadChronic (negative criticism of women, amazing, for those of you beta cucks who idolise women wondering how you can stop pedestalising women and elevating them to the point that you can't even breath when you're around a pretty girl, this guy will make you want to spit in a girls mouth and think nothing of it, exposes their dirty hypocrisy through redpill)


Those three are my top guys currently for balancing my happiness against my negativity against women. Can't be listening to all negative shit, but Chronicundead is a must so you can see these bitches do not shit rainbows and they're MORE evil than men.

Listen to those guys and watch the curtain be pulled back to see what's really going on.

>>16373502


It must be because you display wealth or something because if you knew you were good looking, you'd fucking say it.

>>16368352
This guy is an idiot and has a shitty lawyer. You can fight this and win in Canada.

The second she complains to a family law court, he should have liquidated his assets and placed them in an irrevocable trust overseas. Also should have sold the condo at a loss ASAP. I can tell you the family law court system takes a long fucking time and unlike a formal marriage, she can't just put a lien on the property / cash in a day.

If a turbothot is coming for your shit, then don't just roll over and let her take it. Lawyer up and fuck that bitch with a feral pack of California attack lawyers. Show a pattern of behavior. Make allegations in court against her that she was bragging the judge is an idiot and will side with her because she is a woman.

The REAL reason there is a common law system in countries like Canada is not so some turbothot can hose a rich man. Its because there are a lot of women who don't get married, have kids and get kicked to the curb by some alpha prick asshole and then they are wards of the state.

Don't hate on marriage because your friend is a ballless pussy with no backbone to fight back. I guarantee he, like many beta Canadian men, likes being a victim. Oh poor me. Boo hoo.

Fuck him.

>>16373531


Do not do this. All women are in it for the money, even the good women, because they need to provide for the kids. It's a case of how disgusting they are about it. Chad and Tyrone are still expected to give up money and resources, it's just that they have to be tricked into it, the women have to first throw the pussy at them and hope it sticks long enough that they get pregnant by him, because he's fucking and ducking her constantly, she's just a booty call, she needs to trap him to move on to the next level, which is force marriage onto him, never works, and then the next is rape him for payments for the children, but she's never accountable for where the money is spent. These single mother sluts don't spend on their kids, they spend on themselves and deprive the kids of their fathers hard earned money.

marriage good pan Sirs, should give her all your wealth Sirs, no problem Sirs, you can trust women Sirs, open up yourself to her Sirs, and always listen to women Sirs. happy life Sirs, marriage good deal Sirs!

>>16373660


Correction, these alpha male prick assholes DO NOT KICK THESE HOES TO THE CURB, these slut whore bitches knowingly get involved with these men with the intention of trapping them with a baby, which these men do not want. These women are not all victims, the majority are making these choices knowing there is no downside, either he is hers by choice until she is done with him, or the force of the government will enslave him to her regardless. It can't always just be the fault of men, that is some bullshit propaganda spread by women.

>>16373641
Women ever only see my face, really. I was sheltered growing up and I’m kind of autistic. So I’m pretty fucking oblivious. But women are dropping hints like compliments and stuff, and no one has ever called me ugly.

>>16373834
buy diamond ring Sirs, put ring on finger Sirs, you happy, she happy, happy life Sirs! marry soon! no more time! share wealth Sirs!

>>16369044
That’s actually a really good way of thinking about it.

Just marry a man if you actually view marriage as a financial transaction.

>>16368179
>>16368151
>he hasn't been with 12+ girls
spotted the dicklet

>>16373834
>


Then you're not fucking ugly then are you?? Why you trying to get validation from me motherfucker? I'm some stranger online, this is why you're weak. I don't need some stranger to tell me I'm a handsome motherfucker, I look in the mirror and see what I see and I walk out the house knowing I look sexy as fuck. Women can smell that autism on you, they figure out subconsciously real quick, whether it's on the first date or a little into the relationship, whether you're weak and need her validation or not, and if you get your validation from other people instead of valuing yourself, then she will lose attraction and leave you.

You build your self value by doing things that give you experience. Go to the gym, work on your career, work on yourself, how you present yourself, how you speak, and start doing things by yourself and meeting other MEN. Start up your hobbies and business with MEN, and you will see these bitches on the sidelines admiring, getting jealous that you have shit and you have male attention that they crave, they will come to you. Stop trying to fish for a compliment from me on a random online forum. It's unsexy to men, imagine how unsexy it is to women who are designed by nature to be turned off by that shit.

>>16373410
>>16373466
>>16373574
>>16373635
>>16373663
>>16373698
I'd like to Pa her Jeet, if you know what I mean

>>16372736


That's not sad you brainwashed fucking virgin. Let me tell you why, because a virgin is valued because there is guarantee of pair bonding. Any woman who has fucked a few guys loses her ability to pair bond and goes down the path of a slut (which means sleeping around with different men). A slut is good for sexual experience, but not good for marriage, because if she can't pair bond and with the way marriage laws are, she will get over half of your resources upon divorce, not only that, she will already have been cheating on you before she moves on, she will have been giving you a hard time and trying to sabotage the relationship, all of this whorish stuff that is inappropriate for a healthy relationship in marriage is absent, because they know they have you by the balls once you're married.

The other one is looks, because we don't want to create retard babies you fucking ugly feminist.

>>16370267
> Asians
> Ever getting together with blacks

Come on man. Stop watching porn.

>>16370244


Yeah good luck with marriage you fucking retard. The chances of it working out are slim to none. You can fuck her all you want but we're talking about marriage, not booty calls, or short term relationships, nigga you got cucked by a woman who has fucked way more than 300 men.

>>16368059
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Imagine marrying a literal cumdumpster. 12 fucking guys?!?!?

Anon, I...

>>16373957
there's no way to really tell if shes a virgin or not, sure theres the hymen, but some girls dont have one, others get it reconstructed, plus if she's sucked 37 dicks, i dont think she's a virgin, whether or not shes never taken it in the pussy

>>16374003
you're a fucking virgin if you're 25 and haven't fucked at least 20 girls, and don't tell me you're retarded enough to think you'd turn into a bad husband after fucking that many girls

>>16373957
the fuck does it matter if she's STD free? virgin girls are fucking starfishes, and i'm not gonna restrain myself from eating pussy to "keep myself pure for my future wife" because i'm not a fucking tumblr faggot

>>16373957
Ok cuck

>>16373957
isn't this a double standard though, for men to sleep around and women not to? let's do the math, there is an equal amount of men and women, so if 100 men are sleeping around, then 100 women are sleeping around

>>16368704
how’d he die?

>>16374588


It's not a double standard you fucking retard. I don't set the standards for what makes US as men, attractive to women. THEY set the standards you brainless niglet. Do you see them launching wars over 18 year old virgins? Do you see women blowing themselves up for a chance at 72 virgin women in heaven??? NO you fucking dimwit motherucking feminist cuckface cuckling. How dare you feed me that feminist garbage. WOMEN are the ones who want to date men who are experienced and older than them. THEY are the ones who are setting the standard for men. Why? Because experienced men fuck well, can handle their bullshit and put them back into their place so that she doesn't lose attraction for you, and they are able to provide more because they've accumulated some wealth and status.

Men on the other value virgins, because if you got a 5 inch dick, and shes not been ran through a 6ft tall 12 inch cock beautiful white nordic male, then she's not going to think about that guy when you're fucking her brains out. She will be unspoiled and she will appreciate what she has, she will also be more chemically connected to you as you are to her. A woman who has slept around is ruined, she will never be happy with you, and the likelihood of her cheating is through the roof. Don't fucking ask me for stats, google "divorce rate and amount of previous partners" and enjoy your fucking stats.

Anyone here that has been in love can look back and attest to the fact that their first love was the one they were the most attached too, and probably that bitch was the one that fucked them around the most.

Men do not have a problem bonding with the women they're fucking. Three months of fucking and you've got a pair bond going, women who sleep around, can't pair bond the same way that virgin women can. Y'all motherfuckers need to stop pretending men and women are the same and equal creatures.

ITT, incels

>>16368059
>The thing is she has been with 12 guys

So? 12 is my partner count, and that's honestly pretty low for a man my age (31). Most of the guys in this thread have never kissed a girl, and they are afraid that they can't measure up in the bedroom because of their lack of experience.

OP, just focus on being the absolute best lover your partner has ever had. Learn how to give her multiple orgasms, tie her up and fulfill her BDSM fantasies, use toys, draw her kinks out of her, blow her mind. Build a sex life with her that nobody can rival.

Who cares how many people she's been with if you're better than all of them?

>>16375835


Men and women are not equal you fucking cuck. Refer to the post directly above you. Men who sleep around are not the same as women who sleep around. Opening your legs is easy versus working hard to get into those legs.

Don't listen to this cuckpill guy. YOU should care if she's been with 12 people. What makes you think you won't just be 13 in a few years? 12 mistakes, that's on her, 12 guys can't all be wrong. Fuck this guy right here, men sportfuck, if women sportfuck then do you want to be the guy marrying this sportfucking bitch and getting divorce raped and cheated on later down the line?

You can be her lover, you can give her multiple orgasms, tie her up, fulfill her bdsm fantasies, but she's not marriage material, never marry her, do that stuff outside of marriage.

>>16375873
Your point of view makes zero sense. Of course men and women are equal. Men fuck, women fuck. A women sleeping with a man is no more a "mistake" than the inverse. It takes two people to fuck so, by your logic, men wouldn't be getting laid at all unless women made these so-called "mistakes." "Twelve guys can't all be wrong" what is that even supposed to mean? Are you implying that it's her fault somehow that she didn't end up staying with any of those men permanently? Maybe she just didn't want to? Maybe some of them turned out to be pieces of shit and she broke up with them because they cheated or broke her heart? Maybe relationships just break down sometimes and it can be a bit of both partners' fault, or just circumstances?

You reveal your insecurity in this comment

>Men on the other value virgins, because if you got a 5 inch dick, and shes not been ran through a 6ft tall 12 inch cock beautiful white nordic male, then she's not going to think about that guy when you're fucking her brains out. She will be unspoiled and she will appreciate what she has, she will also be more chemically connected to you as you are to her.

It's plain to see that you are insecure and have no confidence that you will measure up in the bedroom. You're afraid that you cannot satisfy a woman. Your fear and insecurity is so strong that I can literally smell it through the screen.

Meanwhile I give literally zero fucks how many people my wife has been with because I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that none them could ever even begin to compare to me.

Sounds like you're the one who's cucked, mate. Cucked by your own paranoid, insecure, incel brain. I'm happily married to my soulmate who I have an amazing sex life with and you are most likely a kissless virgin who hates women because of your own failure and loneliness. You will never succeed with that mentality, mark my words.

>>16376092


retarded and wrong. Divorce statistics show that women divorce 70 percent of the time, and the virgins are a minority.

It doesn't matter what the insecurity is, a man should not marry a woman who has slept around, if she couldn't commit to all the men before her, she won't be able to commit to you. End of story. Everything you wrote is garbage.

You got cucked by your 'soul mate' she fucked away her younger years to other men FOR FREE and you made friends with her and got her in her twilight years, and you had to PAY for that used up pussy, lol, she fucked all the guys she wanted and got you to settle on her in her later years. Disgusting. She gave you nothing more than a 12 year old dog will give you, a little bit of love before the medical bills and drain on your wallet kicks in. HAH, feel bad for you married cuck. I can feel your insecurity projecting through the screen buddy ;)

>>16368059
What if I already shared my private keys with my gf?

>>16376092


photographer here, I have like literal photo evidence of bitches I fuck btw. So sad for you to be locked down with one heartless woman who's old and used up. I will just play the field. I know you like to attack people on their 'insecurity' but that's hilarious to me, you're so insecure you had to marry that 'soulmate' of yours who has had more dick than you've had vagina, she will fuck you over in the end. Enjoy the marriage.

>>16376197


Who knows, it's your life. I just advise against marriage in todays age.

>>16374040


There isn't. That's why when I look at a decent looking 28 year old, I think to myself, my god in 10 years, you've met more men in your life and used your womanly charm on so many men, more men in one day you interact with than a woman 200 years ago would have interacted with in her entire life....and you're telling me you're still single? My conclusion is that you've slept around for a at least a decade, and I know men out there are desperate to commit, they don't want to lose their woman in the day and age of tinder and social media. She's definitely broken a ton of mens hearts, and who do you really think you are that you are going to compete with a decade of her playing the field? You really want to give away your 30 year old ass, someone who has worked hard to get where he is, to a woman who is in her decline, yet your worth is going up? Remember the worth I'm talking about isn't what you or other men see in you, that's some dumb shit that they'll use to keep you confused. The value is what WOMEN are seeing in you. If you really look around, women marry UP, up in age, up in size, up in height, up in wealth, up in status, and what do men generally get as they get older? More resources, more style, more experience, more status, a better body if they go to the gym and this body works differently to women you silly motherfuckers, dedication in the gym gets you shredded, for any man, testosterone is a helluva drug that your body produces way more than women do. All of this shit is attractive to women so they date and sportfuck older men. Older women are predators though, they are unwanted by the older men who are attracted to younger women, so these older women prey on young horny males. You'll notice this if you investigate and listen to these stories. The milf porn storyline isn't just a male fantasy, it's a fucking reality. These hoes are predators too.

>>16376205
Like I said, I don't care how much she's had, only that I'm the best.

If what you say is true and you actually do get laid (I'll give you the benefit of a doubt) then I have to say that your fixation on partner count is just weird and unusual. It's a virgin hang-up, people with experience and healthy sex lives are usually more laid back about it.

She's 8 years younger then me btw, not old, and definitely not used up. I've trained her to be a much better slut for me than any of the limp-dick chumps who tried before and I'm going to push her even further.

I will enjoy it, thanks. Enjoy "playing the field" and not having someone to share your life and love you unconditionally as well as have amazing sex with.

>>16368205
100% this

No hymen, no diamond. Period.

Fuck off back to r*ddit OP

>>16368059
the only reasonable decision in 2000+19 is not to get married.
doesn't prevent you from spending time, living together etc.
if she pressures you to get married it's already a big red flag

>>16371628
There is no place on earth more cucked

>>16376182
You make a lot of weird assumptions, man.
My wife is 22 and pretty much all the guys she's been with before me were pathetic losers.
I think it's sad how paranoid and easily threatened you are.
If making a free choice to be with someone I love and adore and satisfies all my kinks is what getting "cucked" looks like then sure dude, call me a cuck. It's not like repeating it over and over is going to reduce my quality of life one iota.

>>16373410
this

>>16375829

B&R

>>16373921
Too redpilled a post for this forum. Come back with me to PSL man

>>16375873
I can’t believe this is even controversial at this point

>>16376092
You have to go to plebbit my man

>>16376277
Again, too redpilled for most autists on the Chans. It takes a superior intellect and soul to analyze this so objectively and dispassionately

>>16376386
>>16376404
>>16376419
>>16376429
>>16376453
>being so insecure that you feel the need to change the IP on your VPN so you can meat-ride your own posts

>>16368059
I'd rather go gay than wife up a girl who banged 12 guys lol

>>16376356
> My wife is 22 and pretty much all the guys she's been with before me were pathetic losers
congrats on your stupid decisions making used cumrag of a whore wife, cuck

>>16376182
This guy is right. It's no comparison AT ALL for men and women. It's not the same AT ALL. If a woman wants to fuck, all she has to do is, basically, breathe. And that's fucking it, especially in today's world of tinder, hookup-culture and pathetic betas throwing cash at e-thots.
On the other hand, if a man wants to fuck.. Well, there's entire book stores filled on that topic.

All that being said, it's a terrible idea for BOTH men and women to fuck a ton of different people.
> hurrrrr ThE ExPeRiEnCe

You stupid fucking retarded dogs have voices and mouths. You can talk to your partner. You do not need to fuck dozens of disgusting strangers that you would not even want to be in the same room with to gain "skills". You can talk to your partner, figure out your likes and dislikes together and build that shit together.

>>16368059

>The thing is she has been with 12 guys

Hahaha oh wow, statistically your chances of not having a divorce are 42%.and your chances of having a happy marriage are much lower.

I'm 28, rich and I'm probably never going to get married. I'm never going to wife any hoe, I'm going to stay rich and just use girls for sex as long as I can then I'll probably pay for hookers.

>>16370244

>My gf has been with 50+ and fucks like a pornstar. Stop being incels.
>relationships are all about sex and nothing else

Yeah good luck with that

>>16376293
lmao, life’s gonna teach you some interesting lessons. the next guy pumping and dumping her will be happy she’s warmed up sexually

>>16371487

Dude you don't know how good you have it, consider at least having a civil union or SOMETHING. Women are insecure about their status until a man ties them down.

>>16376619


FUCKING THANK YOU!

Someone else who fucking gets it. Women can literally get a new man the next day she breaks up with you. A man? Nah mate, you pick up the pieces first, because you realise when she left you she had changed you into more of a beta or you realise you had relaxed into being a beta and you hate it, so you have to pick up the pieces, improve yourself, get your edge back, your confidence, you get back in the gym, get your shit in order, make sure you got a job and your finances are in check, and then you go out there and shoot your shot. Lol, you take your rejection, and you keep going until one of them says yes, this could be awhile if you aren't Chad or Tyrone.

Virgin women at 18, 19, 20, in her youth, it's highly valued because it implies she will birth YOUR young, not cheat on you, it's implied that she will do those things because she was brought up well to be at that age and still a virgin.

Listen to all you bitch fools who think I'm saying this to hate on women and I want to degrade them, nah mate. I wish this wasn't the fucking case, but it is. Men and women simply aren't equal, if they were then the top 80 percent of women would not be chasing the top 20 percent of men, a lot more men would have a shot, but these women will cheat on any of you that aren't in that top 20 percent, to be with that guy in the top 20 percent. She will always upgrade with this tinder social media culture, except for women who are brought up to mens standards of simply not being a whore, these virgins will be less likely to e-thot around and slut themselves out, less likely to look for the next upgrade, because they're satisfied with what they have, they value the family unit, they understand the sacrifice of youth and beauty for resources from him. I really do wish it was this feminist dream of 50/50, but a woman can never respect a man that's equal to her, she needs a man to put her in her place, a man above her.

>>16376619


lol the experience line, that shit is hilarious, I was with one bitch for four years, I taught her everything in how to please me, she was complete dogshit garbage before me. It doesn't bother me what these bitches know, they aren't dumb, they're intelligent and they learn everything from me real quick. I don't need her to fuck him and half the world for her to please me. These idiots truly don't understand that women's minds do not work like mens. It makes me doubt when they say they've said they've slept with women. It only took me three relationships to realise their true nature and the same patterns that all these women follow. These guys saying they've got a woman that's been banged out, these are guys that are probably retarded and ugly that she settled on for her pension plan. What kind of woman respects a man who will settle on her? These women know they're hoes, they prey on younger men for marriage so they are taken care of in their older age and don't die of loneliness. They're so fucking selfish, and here these guys are defending their pornstar wives as women of virtue that a man should commit to and die for. Digusting thottery and disgusting beta male simping acceptance of this thottery.

i too have a gf of 3 years with me

but im addicted to porn and rather jack off then to have sex,

i have sex with my gf 2 times a month. i dont really care. i dont try to have sex, y gf usually asks me if i want a blowjob at night , but i have too much dickcheese from jacking off that i tell her no. lol

should i get married.?

>>16376701


lol I'm laughing my ass off here. Honestly, I hope you don't get burned brother. I'm redpill about this shit, but I really hope it works out for you, I hate other men getting burned by these bitches. Good luck sir, let me respectfully call you a betacuck fool and I wish you the best in your marriage. I'll give you a joint and a hug if you need.

PS. Women don't love unconditionally like us men do. They love only their kids and their blood like mother, father, brother, sister, nothing else matters to them. Women only love you for what you provide, not for who you are, that is a male fantasy that so many women don't understand. Lose your job for six months nigga and see where she goes, if she supports your ass or if she's gone. These thotties don't love unconditionally, there are conditions, go on youtube and learn them if you want a better marriage, pretty much don't let her ever tame you in any way and keep the money flowing in.

>>16376356
All that cope

>>16373904
Dude i love that my girl has slept with tons of guys

>>16368059
It won't matter what I post, you won't do the right thing and get a prenup because this isn't even a real scenario. This is a LARP.

>>16371487


Bruhhhh if she's really a virgin, I don't know what to say. I don't believe in marriage but do not let her cheat or let her get away. You have potential for the most amazing monogamous committed relationship if you both want to work at it. Honestly, redpill these bitches to know about their own nature and the pitfalls of sleeping around, she needs to work hard in supporting you, and you need to work hard on being stable by yourself and leading the family unit, getting better financially and getting better in status.

Good luck bro. The only bitches worth anything are virgins, don't let virgins go, they are pure.

>>16374588
>>16376092
>you are alone in a room with 11 simpletons and 12 apples
>1 red apple and 11 green apples
>11 people take turns to take a bite out of the single red apple saying how good it tastes
>11 green apples remain untouched
>your turn to bite into an apple
>you can choose a mangled apple core which has no semblance to its original form and covered in the saliva of your peers
>or take a bite out of a shiny green apple which is a little sour but can be turned into a sweet apple pie?
>you overcome your ape instincts and choose a green one

now some questions
>can 12 people get to taste an apple without 12 apples being bitten?
>how many apples are left without bite marks?
>are the apples equal to the people taking bites from them?
>can the apples change back?
>can the people bite more of the apples? If so would they bite into a green or go looking for more reds even if they have been salivated on relentlessly by others?
>why is the red apple more attractive to the simpletons?
>what is gained or avoided by biting the green apple?
>is biting the crusty wet red apple core that has been enjoyed by many people the same as a man who has eaten many red apples biting a green apple for the first time?
>is it better to try the green apple if you have never before tasted any apples, or many?
>what would be the ideal scenario for all parties involved?

>>16376927
I think you’re replying to the wrong guy here, I agree with your points. I’ve chosen to focus on myself more either way, women are endless pits

Guys I'm going to try and say it one more fucking time. I'm going to try and explain to you foolish simps why men sleeping around is different to women sleeping around.

1. Women set the standards for the men they want. Hulked out, six foot tall, big dick, fat wallet, sexually experienced salt and pepper hair stylish james bond men. Everything else is ranked after that.
2. Men set the standards for what they want in a woman. A woman that's not going to fucking cheat on him, a woman who is experienced is a woman who is learned on manipulating men to do her bidding, a woman who is a virgin is pure. Men want young beautiful women and everything else is ranked after that, but men will compromise a lot on the shortcomings of a woman.


Now if you accept the equality in respecting both genders sexual preferences then you can fucking understand why it's not a double standard that men sleeping around is not the same as women sleeping around. Women know all too well that a man is low quality when he accepts her for her high body count, she is literally then waiting for her next higher value victim. These disgusting men who marry these high body count women, display their thirst by wifing these hoes up, implying that they need to lock this woman down, a used up thot, not even good for having babies with at her advanced dog years age of 28 or older, because if they don't they can't bank on themselves being able to get pussy later. Women absolutely know they have the upper hand in these relationships, and if they don't, day after day after day of her testing you will reveal it to her.

A woman who sleeps around implies to a man that any man can have her, that if he commits his sexual freedom to just her, she will still most likely cheat on him or leave him for another male if she so gets the itch or desire, and why not? She's done it before already.

>>16377010


Yeah my mistake, I was replying to the same guy you were replying to, I think everyone will figure out my mistake xD

But seriously that guy is a cucklord and a half and what he doesn't realise is that most of us have been there at some point or another, but man I managed to stay out of marriage altogether and not get trapped by any woman.

>>16377074
I think nature works itself out in its own ways. Women are terrible as a result of their nature in our current times. It’s a self-correcting system, like rain extinguishing wildfires. I say let them (women) do as much damage as possible to cucks, this system needs a heavy correction.

>>16377134


I'm going to sound absolutely retarded on this, but it's a massive coverup imo. It's been going on for the last 30 years at least, women dying single and lonely. No one wants these old sluts, they're dying miserable and unhappy, they're living long miserable lonely lives though. They're so prideful though they won't admit how horrible it is and the majority continue to lie to the young females and keep encouraging them to go down the path of feminism and live life like a man. They're the ones walking into this trap willingly, calling me a misogynist at age 30 when I'm not interested in their 30 year old ass, and instead I'm looking at the younger women, 18 to 22. This generation of thotties and disrespectful women who look for the next best option, they look at us men like fast food, these women are fucked, and so are we. The muslims will come in and replace us. I refuse to procreate with such entitled creatures with the governmental tools to damage us as men so much.

>>16376092
You sound like the biggest cuck ever.
>women and men are equal
Imagine actually believing this

This board is bluepilled af

>>16377240
Where do you find 18-22yo girls as a 25+yo though? Heck where do you find not slutty girls at all? Just make it first and then just hit on anyone?

>>16377595


Nigga you don't find them, they find you. I'm not saying I run into them, I'm saying those are relationship material. Women that I can mould into NOT being a fucking feminist slut. I don't care what these thotties think about my language and 'moulding' women, these dumb cunts don't know what they want, they want happiness but sabotage themselves at every turn, it's us men who are their protectors and wards that must protect them from their dumb shit. Only young women will listen, the rest are fucked and they're in my fuckzone. It's like the friendzone that women have, except I'm blunt about it with bitches, you want my time, you better fuck otherwise bye. That's the fuckzone, keep it polite, let them call you and you push for sex, if no sex then sorry gotta go, got work to do, hit me up when you free to come over.

When you acquire money and status, all these young girls will come to you, they position themselves. So own a business, go out to your hobbies and go travel, you will meet women. IF you don't find these young virgins, then it's not your loss, you're just a man, you're disposable, so love yourself and realise you don't need a woman to be complete, women are for sex and procreation, nothing more, nothing less, the idea of love is some disney shit, women don't love like men do. Go out and focus on your purpose.

Go to youtube, look up Alpha Male Strategies and listen to him talk about your purpose.

>>16368059
>The thing is she has been with 12 guys
Fucking run dude holy shit

>>16377667
>It's like the friendzone that women have, except I'm blunt about it with bitches, you want my time, you better fuck otherwise bye. That's the fuckzone, keep it polite, let them call you and you push for sex, if no sex then sorry gotta go, got work to do, hit me up when you free to come over.
How do you deal with a woman nagging for your attention? Let's say I want to spend a week all by myself. I do not want to text for an hour a day. Women always get passive-aggressive and pissy, I cave in to be considerate, then I start getting annoyed and think about ghosting them. Often times they would try to get my attention by offering sex, but knowing that it's going to take me sex + time and effort of talking and doing date-esque things, I don't want it.

>>16371018
Kill yourself

>>16377826


Nigga when you cave in and do what they say, they lose attraction to you. They want to get into an argument and feel something. Your best bet is to ignore her shit "babe have a great day, I'll catch you end of the week", she's going to go out and cheat, you're going to punish the fuck out of her by getting her to lick your ass, deepthroat and puke all over your dick or whatever you want when she comes crawling back.

Other than that, be prepared to lose these bitches if you don't show them all that affection. I say good riddance, I got friends, family, hobbies and a career, who the fuck got time to spend on this bitch, I need a rider who going to add to my life, not drain my time and my wallet.

>>16368059
Holy shit dude are you seriously asking 4chan for advice on this subject? Never gonna make it.

>>16371018


lol anything over 3 for a woman is astronomical if you want a marriage. You got 30 year old virgins out there, and you're bragging that 12 is a low number for women. Fuck out of here, it's a high number, it's a sluts number.

Anons, there are no virgins after highschool. The very few that remain past graduation get swept in college. If you keep chasing after the "pure virgin" unicorn and refuse to accept reality, then you will wind up bitter, hateful, and alone.

The "redpill" and "alpha male" mantra is simply a crock of shit. It will give you a warped and delusional view of gender and sex and probably motivate you to treat women horribly while morphing you into self-absorbed fuckboy, assuming that you are able to get laid at all with the shitty attitude that this philosophy will foster in you.

Just wake up and accept reality: it's almost 2020, everyone fucks. Women are sexually liberated, they use men for sex just like men use women. That doesn't mean they "aren't capable" of love, that's total bullshit. They just often do not really love the people that they sleep with, same as us. Stop being insecure and afraid that you girlfriend or wife will have had a better partner than you in the past. If you are that scared then you need to work on yourself, your love-making abilities, your style, and your body. There is no such thing as a virgin, or they are so rare, that there might as well be no such thing. Moreover, there is no reason to want a virgin at all. Anything you here about "pair-bonding" is total bullshit and bro-science.

One of the most hilarious things about the male ego is that men honestly believe that their penises have this mystical power to change who a women is forever. Don't kid yourself. The only thing that most men do for women sexually is disappoint them. A girl that has 12 partners, in all likelihood, has had ten forgettable and boring partners, maybe two actual good ones. Most men are in terrible shape, have small cocks, and can't fuck their way out of a wet paper bag. You should be trying to be an exceptional partner and lover instead of obsessively agonizing over how many dicks have been in your GF as if it puts some kind of mileage on her.

>>16368352
You are actually fucking retarded. None of that common law shit is true.

>>16377913


The only true thing this guy said is there's no virgins after college and uni. The rest is a complete crock of shit. Men and women are not the same thing, look how fucky women get on their period, that should be just a tiny indicator that they think completely different to us men.

This guy really is fucking retarded with this equality shit. Women who sleep around are not the same as men that sleep around. Listening to this guy will get you into trouble with his disneyland bullshit.

>>16377913
More cope

>>16377905
>anything over 3 for a woman is astronomical if you want a marriage

lmfao. Are you mormon or something?

This is anecdotal, but I had one gf who had only been with one guy before she met me. I kept trying to make the relationship more serious, but I got the impression she wasn't ready to settle down yet. Found out later on that she was cheating on me for about a month, and dumped her.

There is nothing magical or special about people with low partner counts. It just boils down to the individual. Either they have loyalty, integrity, and values, or they don't. Virgins, or near-virgins, can, and do, cheat.

>>16377871
Yeah, I feel angry about myself whenever I give them my attention when I don't want to. That's how I know it's beta. Some girls would create conflict when I say I'm busy, then we would have an argument. I like dealing with things asap. Whatever it takes to get me to give them my time and attention, I guess. I'm going to start turning off my phone after "babe have a great day, I'll catch you end of the week" and see what happens.

I don't lose my shit if they don't reply to my texts, I'll just talk with some other chick or work on my projects. So if they don't like it when I do it, they can deal with it. Good tips bro.

>>16377988


Aite nigga, anything after 1 is astronomical. She was fucking around on you because after she broke her first bond, she wanted taste every cock on the market before settling down for one again. She got a taste for different dick, and you werent enough.

>>16377667
That's what I've thought. Watched that guys videos and it redpilled about 2 years ago. I got startup ideas plus have made 2 mvp/demos ready but I'm only 19 and got uni so I'm gonna try learn more about the whole startup thing in my spare time. When I was 14 and everybody started going to parties, drinking and chasing girls, I focused on money(from a not so well off family so future looked bleak unless I did something) and got now €45k in LINK. Need 10x to /make it/ in my country. Meanwhile I'm gonna keep lifting and studying.

I wish I was from a nice comfy middle class family though and didn't have to think about money, because partying and flirting with girls feels really good, but hey at least I'm not some dirtpoor 5ft tall pajeet.

>>16368059
Theres an old saying. Shes been with 3x the amount she admits to.

36 dicks have run through that. And that's being conservative

>>16368352
>sweet talking him into giving him his password which was his online banking password
imagine being this pussywhipped, i hope you're trolling

>>16377989


Women will always compete for more time with you, they need to keep trying to destroy you to know you're worth something when you resist. It's a constant battle, you have to fill up your week with work and things that improve you. If you do that, this bitch has no excuse to get mad that you're trying to better your life so that you can provide for any woman. When they get mad at me, I laugh it off and say I wish I could spend more time with them but work is work, and my life is my life, she better take advantage of my limited time and fuck my brains out solid or I'm moving on to the next activity and the next girl.

>>16378001


Believe me, when you've had enough women, you'll begin to feel indifferent or even despise them. I love women don't get me wrong, but I can do without them now. It ain't no thing.

And no, you will go through hardship so you can have a better life later on, these other middle class idiots can go through life on easy mode and suffer the divorce later on.

>>16377976
Obviously there are biological differences. But the narrative that you are trying to push is extremely dated and old-fashioned bullshit that the women are supposed to stay home and stay pure for the approval of men. It's literally "ok boomer" tier and simply not true. You want to live in a world where men and women who make the same choices are treated differently, when there is no good reason to judge women for behaving just as sexually free as you behave, other than that it makes men like you feel threatened.

Funny how it always these "alpha male" "redpill" types, endlessly obsessing over "cucks" and talking as if they experts on male strength or weakness, who are constantly so visibly insecure, completely obsessed with how many other men's penises might have touched a women, endlessly terrified that one them might have been bigger than his is. You want women to stay "pure" because you're scared she might have fucked someone better than you. It's that simple. Everything you write is to justify this deep, primal fear that lies at the core of your entire worldview.

>>16378042
Im not saying men and women are equally affected in this regard, but wouldn't you say you also lost a fair amount of bonding-ability by spinning plates for years?

>>16378050
It's not about "truth" but about preference. Men don't like used goods, instinctively and later from experience. You are making up endless armchair psychological reasons for why you are not less masculine living the way you do, projecting what you don't want to admit about yourself on others, like women like to do.

>>16377913
>Just wake up and accept reality: it's almost 2020, everyone fucks.
ur a retard lol

>>16378067
Having preferences is fine, just don't pretend that your r9k "redpill" philosophy or your weird boomer ideas from decades ago about women are some kind of objective fact.

But sure, if you actually believe the "pair bond" stuff and prefer virgins then best of luck to you man, hope you find one somehow and that it works out the way that you think it will.

>>16378050
Btw stop pretending to be a male

>>16378123
Okay, you're right, my mistake.

Everyone fucks except for incel males who can't figure out how (90% of this website.)

>>16378061


No nigga, you fucking retard, it doesn't mean a thing for a man if he wants to commit, but why would a man commit when nature designed him to fuck around? A man will commit if a high value woman proves herself to him, he will not commit for anyone else, and it's her job to keep him sexually entertained, not get lazy and stop playing dress up and initiating sex because ultimately men are wired to want to have sex with multiple different women, so if he's sacrificing his sexual freedom in marriage to her, she better be worth something and offering something.

I kind of agree though that sleeping around with women damages men too, to the point that they discover female nature, and it isn't pretty, it doesn't make men respect women. A tell tale sign of a man who doesn't get different pussy or hasn't had enough different pussy is a guy that is always on the other side of criticising women. Men become jaded from sleeping around, but like I said, if a woman offers him something that he values, like sexual exclusivity couple with youth and beauty, he will commit, you see it all the time. Even George Clooney fucking married in the end didn't he? And the bitch STILL CHEATED on an alpha guy like that jesus christ, even alphas aren't enough for these bitches, because he didn't choose a virgin, he chose a woman who hade rode the cock carousel and then decided she would marry and divorce rape this man, in the process she cheated on him, his dick wasn't enough.

Women are designed with hypergamy. They are always looking for the next upgrade. When they get used to upgrading a few times, it's a constant cycle. That's why men have historically called them sluts, even women are more harsh on sluts, because they destroy monogamous relationships by tempting cheating and encouraging divorce. These women can't commit, they need a new man, a new endorphin rush, over and over. Until they hit old age and they trick a young man into taking care of her and being her pension.

>>16377913
Wow a non-virgin on 4chan. Never thought I’d see the day. You incels should take some advice from this anon instead of sitting behind your computer all day bashing women and virtually circle jerking with other incels. It’s not women’s fault you’re ugly unfuckable little faggots.

>>16378131
This has nothing to do with redpill/MGTOW or any of that. Virgin women are coveted by men around the world, and purity is seen as desirable. This stems from human biology and is not suddenly irrelevant because women have courses dedicated to them in university now.

>>16378067


o my god, thank you brothers, you said it better than I could say it. Yes, men don't like used goods in general, and I get to choose my sexual preferences, not these beta cucks telling me I should wife up a used up thotty just because they did. I'm not getting fooled. I want the lowest chance of stds, I want the most fertile years from my lady, I want the most beautiful years of her life, I want the most pornstarriest flexible sex with her as possible, and I want to be the one to introduce her to new things, be the first one to do it so she remembers and I imprint upon her, so she will want to be loyal to me, I don't want 30 other dogs to have pissed on her too.

>>16378149
Thanks, it's a relief to see at least one person here who isn't a raging KHV sperg who hates the entire female race because he can't figure out how to get one to love him or even touch his miserable dong.

Must because muh hypergamy and muh cock carousel amirite?

>>16378028
>she better take advantage of my limited time and fuck my brains out solid or I'm moving on to the next activity
lol I like this line of thinking. That would be me at my natural state; the one I'm doing is trying to be a "good" person. But if they want me to prioritize them, as opposed to my goals (I only have one life and get shitty about it when I don't give them what they want, like a terrorist, they're not good people either. Seems illogical that they want to destroy me but, then again, I have noticed it every single time. Makes sense.

>>16378155

To him it is irrelevant, because he's not able to see he's probably a betacuck sjw.

These fools want women to be able to fuck older men, younger men, any men, but men have to stay in their lane and fuck women their age no matter what they are, fat sluts, old sluts, young sluts, they want us to accept all women, but no, I have my own sexual preferences you fucking cucklords. This ain't equality, it ain't old fashioned, it's MY SEXUAL PREFERENCE. If you want to start saying it's okay for men to accept used up sluts that are most likely going to damage them emotionally and financially, then fuck you, you're not part of the male race, you're a traitor to the male group. The feminists see the world in woman versus male way, and it's a zero sum game, so you have to view it as a men versus female view too. You're not for men, so you're against men, spewing this garbage and trying to trick men into accepting damaged goods that will harm them. If men should accept damaged goods, then women should sleep with anyone, they shouldn't get a choice if he's fat, a loser, a virgin. See how ridiculous that sounds? I Respect womens sexual preferences, they can fuck all the rich good looking guys out there, I'm not complaining I'm not rich or good looking, I'm just working on myself and attracting who I attract as life goes on. I will not select sluts, and women have their right to reject me. See how that works? That's equality you cunt. Accepting sluts in society and feeding the lie that they won't harm men emotionally and financially is something I can't get behind. Fuck you sir.

>>16378155
Speak for yourself, dude. Personally, I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

If anything, I think I would be even less interested in a girl if I found out she was a virgin. Even if she's not a boring prude with a bunch of hang-ups and a mile long list of sexual "nopes," it suggests either mental illness or some kind of weird religious thing.

>>16378131


This guy is fucking stupid. Anyone here who has slept with women can attest that their first love was the fucking bomb in terms of sex, the dopamine oxytocin chemical cocktail rush was the best, and the feeling of wanting each other was the highest they've ever felt.

That's pair bonding you fucking cunt. The only way to achieve that after your first one damages you when she cheats on you with multiple different guys, is that you need a bitch that is loyal to you, a year of solid fucking and a good relationship is just about enough to get you to start getting those chemical feelings back up if you can have a healthy rewarding relationship. It's hard work after your first disney love. This guy here is a fucking imbecile of the highest order.

>>16378145
You are right about almost everything ITT. Good thread.

I had a couple of shitty bluepill LTR, started understanding shit after those and proceeded to do the whole FWB routine for years. When I found a girl who I thought was worth it, it was insanely hard not to cheat. A problem I never had in my bluepilled relationships.
I believe fucking around too much did a number on my ability to execute proper monogamy.

>>16378227
>I-I don't even care
Lmao. How long have you been in this thread dumping your worthless thoughts on everyone? While the other posters talk about women and what they like and don't like about them, you are desperately grasping at straws by parrotting the intellectual diarrhea of lonely twitter thots. You are talking about the posters here instead of women like everybody else because you have no arguments in defense of the undesirable traits and habits of women.

>>16378226
I think it's really weird how combative and confrontational you are about this subject. You make it sound like a battlefield, or something. I'm waiting for you to unironically bring up Men's Rights. You sound like the type of frustrated male who would shoot up a mall or theater and desu your use of certain key incel terms and topics in your vocabulary doesn't help your case.

In fact, the more I read what you type, the less I believe that you've ever touched a woman at all. You sound like a KHV who read "The Game" by Neil Strauss.

>>16378149


lol nigga that's a raging virgin and a half.

>>16378227

no you fool, it means she values her choice in the first man she picks, she wants to live her life with him and values that. Jesus christ, you're young, that's how I thought when I was young, either that or you're severely blue pilled and don't understand the trade you make with women, resources and status for the pussy. The line al pachinko says, first the money then the bitches, or whatever nigga.

>>16378260
I really don't. I think that the obsession that incels online have with virginity is weird and pathetic.
I'm just idly posting in a thread while I go about my evening routine. If you don't like my opinions then don't read them and don't reply, go meat-ride the other guy who keeps spewing his misogynist MGTOW redpill rhetoric, you're already practically fellating him.
I don't need to argue against the "undesirable traits and habits of women" put forth in this thread because they're imaginary or misrepresented.

>>16378246


I've never cheated on a woman and both regret and don't regret it. I don't regret it because despite the countless number of fucking stupid foolish things I've done, I still believe in honour, love, duty, respect, sacrifice, glory, freedom, I believe in principles. These bitches believe in none of these things, they only believe in the strongest man they're fucking tells them to believe. Look how criminals get all the hot bitches, the thugs, the druglords, the politicians, the awful people in power who do awful things, women have no morals. Women have no fucking morals in general without guidance, just like men with no guidance have no fucking morals, but something about men leads them to believe in good principles, women only get to that point once they lose their looks, their powers. I hate myself for not cheating because these bitches I want to bang are dirty sluts and if they knew I was not a no good cheater, they would look down on me like I was a beta cuck. The women who do respect this kind of shit are very very very few, like literally maybe 4 percent of women and they are always taken up by good men, they know their worth and their value, they want to be in good relationships, they still give their men trouble and hell with their shit testing, but overall they're much better than the rest of these hoes that are out here that I want to fuck.

>>16378263


wow, I wasn't even thinking of mens rights, but the way you use it, like men having rights is an insult, or that men wanting equal rights is a negative, man something is fucking wrong with you. Like you can see why it's a battlefield, with betacucks like you and feminists declaring war on men, literally wanting to deny men equal rights and culturally vilify anything to do with mens rights.

Cheers for exposing yourself feminazi.

Everything you post is like some adhominem attack. Nothing you say is about women, they're just attacks on men.

>>16368205
divide by 3
>1/3
I have fucked .333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 women

>>16378316
>go meat-ride the other guy who keeps spewing his misogynist MGTOW redpill rhetoric
>says this after literally thanking another cuck for agreeing with him
I already told you the preference for purity/virginty is universal and has nothing to do with misogyny. Women prefer men who are successful and have their shit together. They prefer men who give them direction to men who let them do whatever they want and then go on the internet to defend their hysteria and bullshit ("men" like you). Is it wrong for them to have these preferences? No. Is it wrong for men to have (male) preferences? No. Only tiresome cucks like you think saying something negative about women equals hating them.

>>16378269

I really just don't think that these people exist. Maybe a very small scattered few, and probably mostly religious cults.

Otherwise, most women who wind up virgins after highschool and even college are probably just ugly, crazy, or both.

I think that you and most other users on this board put virginity on some kind of weird, idealized pedestal and that you are out of touch with reality if you think that these pure virgins are out there deliberately waiting for one and only one man to be with for the rest of their lives.

Also, I'm 31, and unironically using the term "blue-pilled" is cringe.

>>16378316


the obsession is not from incels you dickhead. The obsession is from males who attain resources and don't want to be divorceraped or cheated on. Sacrificing your sexual freedom for five years only to find out the baby isn't yours is insane. Men want to avoid that. Men know how to do that biologically and naturally, our dick tells us we want the young hot women, the oldies are repulsive to us naturally as we get older. All of this is actually statistically played out in the divorce stats. Women who married as virgins are five percent or so likely to divorce your ass. Two to three partners, divorce jumps to 30 percent, and anything more jumps to 70 percent in modern day marriages. Idiots like you are trying to obfuscate this issue for men so that your long term plan to ride dick into your forties and then trick a young man to be your pension plan will work out, and you're upset I'm warning a few men about it. You fucking feminazi. Who you going to cry to ban me here now you sjw retard?

>>16378316
Yes, keep calling everyone here incels, that'll help get your point across, you low-t turbocuck.
Have you tried Reddit? I'm certain that there's boards over there where you can discuss all the ways your wife has been plowed by other men in greater detail. God, deluded newly-weds are the fucking worst...

>>16378348
why cant you incels just admit the ONLY reason you desire a virgin is because of insecurities about lack of experience and having nonfunctional dicks thanks to your fast food and porn addiction
virgins are no good btw, they dont want it, they make a mess, they just lay there like a corpse

>incel
>insecure
>threatened
No man makes posts containing these blanket femcel buzzwords.

>>16378361
Okay nigga, I come from an Asian background, 24 year old virgin in a family I know is getting married. Their culture shames sleeping around, they put their daughter through education, she's ecstatic about the guy she's marrying, everyone hoping for the best that things will go for the best, and the evidence shows virgins pair bond very well and their marriages are the ones that last. Not every culture has succumbed to the whoredom that is feminism.

>>16378381
the obsession os from fat middle aged middle eastern oil tycoons. can you understand why they pay so much for virgins?
stop deluding yourself

>arranged marriages have low rates of divorce
yeah because the wife woild be killed and doesnt know what pleasure is anyway because her virgin obsessed sand nigger dad cut her clit off as a baby

>>16378412
so triggered you cant even reply like a man, lmao
keep hiding behind "mub buzzwords" and wojack edits, incel

Here’s a black pill for all you faggots: it’s 2019 and dating apps exist. Unless you marry the first girl you meet in high school your future wife WILL have been with 12+ guys. She won’t admit it but it’s the truth. Either accept reality or remain a virgin for eternity.

>>16378413
you are gook no one gives a fuck about your backwards ass culture where kids are sold off for pigs and livestock

>>16378422
You just parrot the same couple of lines that twitter femcels employ whenever confonted with something they have no argument for, no man can take you seriously.

>>16378342
Okay, I'm getting bored with you now. It's really not a battlefield, I'm not going to go any further with playing into the "red versus blue" mentality that is so rampant on this site. I have no interest in discussing "feminazis," "war on men," or any of this garbage.
I'm not attacking the male gender, I am attacking the attitude that men like you and others have in this thread, which is disrespectful, abhorrent, immoral, and bizarre.

My opinions about women:
- It's fine for a woman to sleep around if she wants to. It doesn't decrease her value, nor change who she is.
- It does not matter what a woman's partner count is. It has literally nothing to do with their suitably or unsuitability for a healthy relationship.
- There is no good reason why a women should be expected to be a virgin, especially not for the approval of a man.

>disrespectful, abhorrent, immoral, and bizarre.

>>16372164
this. even muh 12 guys alone was enough to give it away

>>16378440
again, avoiding discussion and hiding behind "lol buzzwords"
elliot rodgers really gave insight into the mind of incels, you are in denial. evolve as a human

have you ever had sex with a virgin btw? like i said it is not an enjoyable experience, unless you are a perverted middle eastern rapist

>>16378394


IF women didn't become spoiled and entitled from fucking one hundred different men, if it didn't turn her into a whore who treats herself to every man who makes her vagina tingle and jeopardise her relationships, then maybe I wouldn't fucking care if she was a virgin or not, or in the very least had a very low body count of 1 or 2 guys only.

See you idiots want to see things in a vacuum, a virgin is a virgin just because you're an insecure incel male, and a woman who sleeps around is equal to a virgin except she's just got a higher number count. You don't want to see what sleeping around and gaining this experience does to a woman, she learns that she can manipulate men with her vagina, she learns to do this and she gains confidence in it. It's disgusting, they are never satisfied once they've been sleeping around, they can't appreciate anything unless it's better or different than the last thing that she had. You're insane if you haven't seen this, or you're a woman denying this, or maybe like you keep accusing everyone else, you're a virgin/incel that pedestalises women because he hasn't had any women. Protip, women find men who praise women incredibly unattractive. Like it seals up her pussy, and her insides become drier than the sahara desert. She'd rather be slapped by a misogynist than sleep with a beta cuck who praises women.

>>16378448
wojack poster strikes (oops, misses) again
back to your discord group

>>16378463
unless you are a virgin too of course

>>16378435


Red dot indian nigga. We civilised in the west mate. Londoner here.

>>16378413
>I come from an Asian background

I hate to make a sweeping generalization about your cultural background, but it seems obvious at this point that our life experience is going to be vastly different and that there is very little chance we will agree or that we are even arguing on a level playing field.

Slut shaming has been over in the US for some time now.

Also, can you link some evidence about these virgin pair bonds?

>>16378463
There is no discussion to be had based on cookie cutter replies you copy from other brainlets, male and female, as responses to every criticism functioning people have about you. You are boring and have nothing to offer to anyone.

>>16378471
you are the only one living in a vacuum, forming an entire world view from shit posts on pol and r9k instead of actually experiencing reality
its pointless to continue arguing with someone as willingly ignorant as yourself.

>>16378427


lol no there's a third solution. Sleep with these hoes but never marry. Simple. Why you want to get locked in a relationship?

>wojack poster strikes (oops, misses) again

>>16378495
keep regurgitating socially engineered red pills then, the jews gain nothing from turning capable young men into crazed incels

>>16378506
the npc cannot think for himself
rather he posts memes becuae his brain has been rotted

jeeez there is some unprecedented cuckery in this thread

>>16378443


1. Sleeping around is fine for a woman if she realises it DOES decrease her value in the eyes of most sane men who buy into the monogamy and marriage game.

2. It DOES matter her partner count is, it has everything to do with how healthy a relationship will be. If she went through a hundred men and couldn't find commitment there, what kind of bad habits does she fucking have? Jesus christ do some of the basic detective work at least.

3. There is no good reason for a woman to be expected to be a virgin except if she wants marriage. I love sluts, I don't treat sluts badly, if you want to sleep around, please do, thank you sluts for being sluts and sleeping around, you're good for sex and only sex, I will fuck you until I cum and then I will ghost. Thank you bitches. I don't have to take care of you in your old age, and by the time this feminism cancer dies down, not dies out, it will never die, but there will be an overwhelming backlash against it by females at some point, the underlying backlash is already in effect with women on surveys lying about not identifying as feminists.

Fucking feminists and their lies. You are either a woman or a traitor to men. You're weak and trying to justify your whore of a wife to me on a forum. Fuck you and your whore wife. Go complain somewhere else.

>>16378443
>which is disrespectful, abhorrent, immoral, and bizarre
So mocking religious decision to stay a virgin isnt immoral....

>>16378525
Those "socially engineered redpills" are viewpoints that men hold in isolated nepalese villages and civilized european societies alike because they stem from biological urges. Even you are, in your own sphere, instinctively hunting for female approval by adopting the viewpoints expressed by the more often than not very confused opinion makers, a biological urge. Unfortunately there are no girls here to reward you for it.

>>16378499
>Why you want to get locked in a relationship?
Because I met someone who makes me happy?
Have you not had this experience before?

>>16378471
>they are never satisfied once they've been sleeping around, they can't appreciate anything unless it's better or different than the last thing that she had.
Okay? and why would you settle for less than you knew you could get?
If you could sleep with two different women then would you sleep with the uglier one?

>she learns that she can manipulate men with her vagina
Tell me that you haven't manipulated a women for sex.

>Protip, women find men who praise women incredibly unattractive. Like it seals up her pussy, and her insides become drier than the sahara desert
Source: trust me bro

>he'd rather be slapped by a misogynist than sleep with a beta cuck who praises women.
We must have different life experience. I support women and treat them like humans in daily life.
When I'm in bed with my wife though, I DO slap her, choke her, spit in her mouth, and whatever else I want to her.
Maybe there's just a difference between behavior in and out of the bedroom, which you do not distinguish between.

>the npc cannot think for himself
>rather he posts memes becuae his brain has been rotted

>>16378547
based

>>16377976
Yo dude sauce on the Indian chick. Are there nudes?

>>16378563
lmao your wife a whore mang

>>16373574
holy fuck your posts are cringe. 4 months at the gym and u reckon ur ready to be giving all this advice on being le alpha male? women still look down on u figuratively and more than likely literally. lifelong doormat wannabe chad

>>16378463

YES, SEX WITH A VIRGIN IS GENERALLY NOT ENJOYABLE. This is the fucking sacrifice you have to make if you want a loyal woman, you have to teach these starfish virgins, but you trade that shit for loyalty. You aren't picking a virgin because you want to defile some young pure thing you fucking retard, you just want someone to be faithful and loyal to you, virgins generally increase the likelihood of that for marriage.

Look if you want to be a slut and sleep around as a woman, you fucking do it, I don't care, I love it, I will fuck you, but I won't marry you. You can't make me marry you and you can't change my sexual preferences in regards to marriage, sucks for you, but that's my body my choice you fucking hypocritical slut whore. You can't compel me to accept you and the DNA of 300 men in you by the age of 30. Sorry bitch, you're off limits to me, that's equality. You can't commit, and I want commitment that you women are selling.

>>16378551
go move to some sharia controlled shit hole, its obviously what you want. crazy incel obsessed with raping virgin children
btw only thing in hunting for is depressed incels to either push over the line so they realize how far theyve falled into jewish mind games, or push over the edge into suicide

>>16378549
Perhaps, it is disrespectful, and I am sorry if you are offended. I am not, myself, religious though, so it's a difficult concept for me to grasp.

>>16378547
2. Source: just trust me bro

I won't dignify the rest of this filth with a response.

>>16378580
so its okay for men to have dozens of partners but their wife must only have her husband? seems very islamic of you

>>16378577
Damn right, and I make sure she knows it, I fuck like a whore and call her one while I do it.

Stay mad, jealous incel.

>>16378583
>raping virgin children
Pic related. Sex obsessed freak doesn't understand that purity is sought after because it benefits long term relationships, which is what functioning adults want.
>push over the edge into suicide
People would have to take you seriously first.

>>16377501
/thread

>>16377913
This perfectly rational post is what set off the irrational hate filled incels into their seething rage.

>>16378602
Women have a bunch of vestigial social evolutions and unequal enforcement of legal protections so when they forfeit those, I'll forfeit my sexual double standard.

>>16377913
Want to know how I know your female?

>>16378616
middle eastern oil tycoons desire virgins more than anyone else
and that is the reason why
dont delude yourself

>>16378647
Yes your double digit IQ and twitter education are working overtime on these logical deductions I see.

>>16377913
Cringe

>>16378641
Want to know how I know hes a male? And how I know you mental and spiritual progression has been stunted by your exposure to mainline 4chan culture?

>>16378563


1. I have met many women that make me happy, but also make me severely unhappy. That's what women do. It's not worth the hassle for me any more. Sex and short term relationships where I exhibit power over them is what I'm into. They make me jump through hoops and holes to get to the sex, so when they're emotionally attached to me, I decide to play games with them, dump them, break up sex, make up sex, never commit to a relationship and eventually they will leave to a different victim that they can actually control.

2. I would settle for less in the looks department because I compromise for faithfulness and loyalty you dumb fuck nigga. I already told you that we as men generally believe in principles like honour, respect, duty, we sacrifice for women, we give our heart body and soul you dumbfuck prick. We're the romantic cunts over here, romance is for us, MEN came up with romance, these dumb hoes were just recipients of a man's dream to be the man that women want. Women have no fucking romance, what game do they have to get us? They let us lead the whole way, they have no game at all, it always ends with them letting us do what we do to get into the pussy.


3. I haven't manipulated a woman for sex by false rape accusations you fucking clown.

4. Yeah trust me bro, I see you not getting any pussy over there.

5. I suppor women too, you retard, I just don't believe in the shit you do, I believe we're different, women can't handle being equal to a man, they disrespect men who are equal to them or who they believe they are equal to. I have too have pornstar sex with women. You have it with one, but remember what you do to her has been done by tons of men before you. She's only yours while she's having fun with you. Enjoy retard.

>>16378572


First love. The first bitch that cheated on me.

>>16378656
Appears the wojack poster still cant admit that certain people desire virgins because of perversions and fear of sexual inadequacy among other reasons.

>>16378609
I do that without marriage friendo

>>16378668
wrong on all counts, but I have to be getting to work

stay mad, fuckboy

>>16378678
Yes, certain people do, but only retards like yourself need to draw fallacious conclusions from that in order to have a chance at sitting at the grown table trying to speak grown up words.

>>16378579


Nigga you're a fucking retard, I was getting bitches before going to the gym. Imagine that, I know how to get bitches without even being chad and tyrone. And I've been working out my whole life, I've just figured out small habits that have helped me put on weight. I've pretty much looked like this my whole life, just now I'm starting to put weight on slowly.

And yes bitch nigga I do feel fucking ready to give out life advice. I'm 32 you cunt, I've gained knowledge and experience, and frankly I don't give a shit what age you are, if you talk from experience, then it's going to be valuable. If you talk from simp beta cuck land then no one will take you serious.

>married a girl from a poor family
>my family is like middle class in flyover nowhere

Been 4 years and still feeling good about it

>>16378695
Post more wojacks, low iq incel

>>16378716
Now you start parrotting my posts, I feel disgusted.

>>16368059
> 12 guys
Now multiply that number by 3-5 and you have the actual amount of different dicks she has had in the holes that you happily munch on.

>>16378602


BRO ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?!?!

How many times do I have to say this, I DO NOT SET THE STANDARD ON MEN SLEEPING AROUND BEING GREAT. That's women who prefer men who sleep around. Men have different preferences, the prefer women who are not whores and sluts.

If you wanted men to accept whores and sluts then would you equalise it so that women are forced to fuck virgins and ugly fat guys? Like why are men expected to fuck and marry undesireable bitches but women can pick and choose who they want?

Not islamic, red dot indian, and I'm a londoner, so western culture very much. Dislike islam a lot, but frrankly, recently I've come to the realisation that islam must have been a response of severe feminism in the past, false rape accusations, unadulterated cheating, thottery and prostitution to the point that men didn't want these whores and to father another mans baby, and society couldn't function and carry on without kids, so islam was born in an era of unabashed whoredom. Like why else would it be so strict? Look at the metoo movement, look at the false rape accusations, these lying whores who destroyed careers, look at that mattress girl in some american uni, these lying whores would be stoned to death. Deservedly so. The stronger feminism gets here in the west, the more it proves islam right ironically. It's fucking ridiculous I had to delete all my facebook posts that were critical of islam oppressing women.

>>16378577

looool plenty of men fuck whores and let them know they're whores without the barrel of the governments gun pointing at them. You're fucking retarded. Enjoy your enforced celibacy in a year when she cuts off sex.

DESU, if all STDs were cured, id probably just be a whore, at this point, after college it is too hard to form serious relationship with someone if you didnt already do it

>>16378489
>>16378435
whitoids btfo lmao

>>16378706
skeleton/10

DYEGOMAD?

>>16378706
yeah u talk from experience alright. experience as a currycel

>>16378682

These guys are so virgin they think that everyone else can't get sex without marriage.

The mere existence of this thread points to one conclusion:
All women are whores.
The sooner this is learned, the happier you will be.

>>16369467
I tried in the past and she hit me with ew you're 6 years older than me

>>16368059
OP I once dated someone who claimed to have a body count of over 100. I broke up with that bitch bc she was crazy and that was the obvious tipping point, but don't get too stuck on 12 bodies despite what others say here.

I rarely post on here. Just wanted to give a shout-out for the Red-Pilled peeps here and call that dude with like 50 posts (FIFTY) in this thread, defending his dumb attitude, and coping about his stupid, ugly wife: a fucking faggot.

Jesus Christ dude, this thread is filled with nothing but your cope and insecurity....which is WAY MORE insecure than these inexperienced/somewhat insecure Red-Pillers that you keep responding to.

Shut up faggot and thanks for confirming that anyone with a penis that uses the term 'incel' is a virtue-signalling loser.

-t. 30 year old with a 21 year old gf of several years, from a rich family. Al

P.S. Just give me one night and a paper-bag and I'll have your dumb, goofy-ass, ugly wife set to monkey branch right over to me. Don't worry: I'd give her back, because I have value.

>>16378796


Nigga not because you were older, she would have sucked Leonardo Dicaprios 40 year old cock asap.

You're unattractive to 18 year olds. That's the reality. You need to work on yourself, gym, style, clothes, status, finances, they need the whole works, the personality and the GAME too.

>>16378793
Based

>>16372164
I did not expect this bait thread to blow up.
I just wanted some ideas for a song I'm writing that mocks marriage.

>>16368059
marriage is a kike psyop to gatekeep birthrates and having families.

ignore marriage. have babies.

>>16378860

Nigga I thought I saw a genuine cry for help, I ain't about to let a brother go down on the sinking ship that is marriage if I can help it. Stay safe. Don't trust these hoes, stay away from marriage. Fuck these hoes to sleep and that's it.

>>16376916
Kanye is married to Kim fucking Kardashian, 60% of women would die to look like her, and he still had a porn addiction

>>16378992


Nigga look at Kanye, he's out of shape and ugly. His earning potential is what keeps her locked to him. Watch when the divorce comes.

>>16378878
I appreciate the effort. I recommend this book for you. The real red pill is realizing you can transcend most desires.

>>16373663
I was just proposing it as a general shit test to rapidly weed out the dumbest/most dishonest. God knows they throw enough shit tests.

>>16379214
Bought.

>>16372114
That has little evidence of existing in humans.

>>16369467
because most people here in the uk where I work arent that age or arent attractive. I'm 20 and dont find myself with someone honestly

Body count isn't important to women, for you it was a conquest, for her it's just being bored and deciding to go home with a guy

>>16374588
Studies show that in your scenario, 20 men will get 80 of the women. Another 20 of the men get the other 20 men leaving the other 60 guys with no one. Not every guy can get a girl. And certainly not every guy can get multiple girls. In contrast, any girl can get laid. This is why the double standard exists.

Married for 13 years, it's comfy.

>>16377913
>One of the most hilarious things about the male ego is that men honestly believe that their penises have this mystical power to change who a women is forever.

Actually, a man's semen does in fact influence the DNA of a woman and subsequently any kids she's pregnant with.

>>16378239
Actual woman here, I rarely think about the guy I first slept with and I don't remember him being very good at it. I think much more about my husband :>)

>>16368121
based and actionpilled
learning to ignore what people say and watch what people do is unironically the most important skill you'll ever develop in life

>>16373964
i think its time for you to go outside and meet people

>>16368059
>asking an incel infested website for advice on marriage
r u ok?