/biz/ - Business & Finance

>animated, drawn, and written japanese media
especially if it's not just fua fua cute girls who dress like attention seeking whores but are miraculously given a "I only have eyes for you, MC-kun!" haremshit

AMD chads Ryzen the fuck up

LOW puts or bust

How do you invest in something that’s worth more than gold..... LOVE

Quick and easy.

Tutes bought up GALT during its fall. Look what happened a couple months ago when it fell to 3 dollars.

Board the rocket before its too late.

>>16323255
Nice, you can buy a 2L coca cola with that profit

>>16323249
palladium


>>16323268
I might buy more GALT yeah
but I'm trying to be patient
I thought I was going to have more time to load up on weedstocks but they V'd super hard
I'm still gonna be patient on Mr. Galt, not gonna try and catch it too close

SGMO bros WW@? anyone else excited for ASH and R&D day?

>>16323249
Invest in Brothels, because LOVE is priceless, but sex is a commodity.

Puts for Deutsche Bank blue pilled or redpilled?

Have you guys been watching medicinal marijuana stocks explode? I’m tempted to get in but i wonder if a correction will come in first.

first for animeposting edition

>>16323329
Absolutely brassballed and redpilled trying to time the collapse

My only regret is that I didn't sell my AMRN at the 23 mark then buy back in at 20. I'd kept almost 3k in profit. But then again it's all just luck, coulda very easy gone the other way and then I'd been fucked. Or it coulda dipped, then rebounded before I could act. So yeah better to hold till the Buyout comes.

>>16323255
i was gonna give you shit for being an options gambler but now o am i laffin

>>16323296
I'm excited for 2025, I'm excited for 2030
I just buy it buy it buy it

Pokeyman posters and galt bagholders are the biggest cucks. Prove me wrong.

>>16323351
I’ve got a 6$ and 5$ strike set to expire in April and July respectively. I didn’t put too much in but I’m curious to see what happens.

>>16323366
What’s the prospect for the drug, and big dates coming soon?

>>16323376
What’s wrong?
That’s how I’ve been doing options...

Was a little too cheap on this one, going for the 140 is a little ambitious but not impossible (I’ll take profits before it’s ITM >>16323388
I always wondered where la chupacabra came from...

>>16323027
This is pretty much correct with the exception of the point about the MACD. MACD is bad even for stocks. Support/resistance does indeed play a more meaningful role in stocks than it does in forex.

The universal between the two is volume. Especially multi day scenario with increasing volume along with the direction of the trend. A one or two day spike may be bait but if price continues to trend and volume continues to stay high or better yet increase with it, that's a legitimate indication of further upside/downside to come. After spending the better part of the last six months putting together an indicator based system that I believe will work long term, I wound up with something pretty bare bones. It's the two ichimoku moving averages (base and conversion) set to a bit longer time frames than default, and two different styles of volume based indicator. And that's pretty much the extent of it.

The style I like the least is the two lines cross ones. They are either very twitchy and tell you to buy/sell constantly, often at a disadvantage, or they're laggy like MACD and don't pop a sell signal at you until half way through the move or more. The closest I found to a good two lines cross indicator is the QQE (MT4) set a hair slower than default. Backtested that one for two months before I noticed that the volume indicator combination I had going alongside it was actually dictating all the moves and overruling the QQE's occasional false signals. The biggest roadblock I had to get over with this whole thing was allowing the stuff to do its job, which I knew it was capable of doing because I tested it extensively, including allowing a larger amount of drawdown within a trend than I had previously been comfortable with.

Fucking AMRN I dont know if I should load up on calls. Fucking shit.

>>16323432
If we knew if we should load up on calls, we would all be rich

>>16323289
Every vehicle has that or platinum in the catalytic converter. I should start collecting

>>16323432
Still plenty of time til fda meeting
I THINK we’re still in the fear cycle, FOMO will kick in later, but I already sold a lot of my position which is usually an indicator of a bottom.
>>16323389
I’m surprised you’re still here...
>>16322991
You’re not the anon that makes his own analyst reports are you?

My old friends who I once considered my equals are making over 100k a year at 23 because they majored in finance and computer science or just computer science or engineering. like they live and work in the city have a whole fancy life its crazy and they work for some of the most respected companies

meanwhile I'm at home trying to make a couple thousand off options going back to school to get a new degree

too many feels tonight

>>16323406
Should also specify here, I do not use the ichimoku lines crossing as an indicator. They're there for a quick view of general trend, a do-not-touch signal if the price is constantly skipping above and below, and general guidelines for placement of stop losses.

>>16323394
There's a conference tomorrow then 12/28 the FDA delivers the final verdict. So far everything has gone AMRN's way. The 16:0 adcom vote really sealed the deal I think in favor of them. 70% of drugs that got past Adcom later got Green lit later. So I mean it would look pretty dumb on the FDA's part to deny AMRN now. It would not be a shock if a Buyout/partnership deal was announced right after Dec 28th. Even if the FDA gives AMRN a very skimpy label that's still a shit load of Profit over ten years. So Buyout/Partnership, honestly don't matter which. The stock will fly higher either way. But the odds favor the Buyout. The longer it takes post 12/28 the more Big Pharma would have to pay. Cause Starting 12/29 people are gonna be storming doctor's offices wanting the drug.

>>16323457
I lost 300 on calls this week. Fuck me in the ass.

>>16323468

>>16323236
>>16323398
blessed ID
goddamn I love food and food stocks so much bros....

>>16323388
to be fair, this is the type of stuff that gives me hope (the 2025/2030 stuff). i feel like in the long run it's very safe but i feel like it's way more profitable to sell the spikes and buy the lows.

literally just look at this chart. literally just LOOK AT IT. look at how predictable this shit is, my fucking god dude. fucking LOOK AT IT LOOOOK!!! just in time for ASH my dude, it's so obvious it hurts. on top of that my exit condition has always been if i heard some info about the SB-525 being bad in some way and i've literally, LITERALLY only heard good things about it, "best in class" stuff about it. and then the new CFO and the science board, literally only good stuff how can i not hold on to this shit?

>>16323398
are you day trading with options or something? how does this work? how do you not day trade instead?

>>16323457
>I’m surprised you’re still here...
Where else would I go? Outside??

>>16323432
Go big or go home

AMRN to $100

>>16323500
EZ 20% loss lmao

>>16323508
Easiest money ive lost all year

>>16323284
>i don't understand how anyone can be trading based on fundies when the china trade war is going on and a single tweet and crash the market or send it skyrocketing.
You're not wrong, this market is completely... egh. I don't want to say irrational because there's simply so much going on, some of it real and some of it not real, the impact of such signals can't be fully realized until they're tangible. I've not invested wisely on my own behalf recently, I've just put the money into biomemes and prayed but originally my (profitable) FA strat was just to put money into stocks that massively drop on their earnings day (but I did a lot of digging the week prior to their earnings and then assigned a star rating to them).

TA will always be a massively powerful tool to identifying key entry and exit points; exit points being something I have bad discipline and bad knowledge of
also, one of my greatest regrets is not organizing my picture folders and my stock market notepad; fucking kill me jesus

>>16323484
>i feel like in the long run it's very safe but i feel like it's way more profitable to sell the spikes and buy the lows.
Yep. It's good practice to take at least partial profit on any big candle with a move way beyond the usual average for a particular stock. Most of the time it'll drop within a day or two and settle in to consolidation mode if it wasn't a pump & dump. If it WAS a p&d, you're already out half with profit secured and your stop loss on the remainder will trip shortly thereafter.

>>16323457
I made one on a sand company and MU a long time ago, I do it occasionally on positions I'm not in as well in order to
A. Learn new things and
B. Think impartially in the hopes of performing the same way in positions I'm personally in

Recently? No.

>>16318523
demand from 1,4 bio not so poor people
basedbeans pharma tech ad revenue
https://notesmatic.com/2018/12/apple-inc-revenue-from-china/
you do not necessarily need them but that is a shitton of money

What is the fastest way for me to retire early in terms of earning passive interest from the stock/bond/reit/cd market?

I need roughly $4000 a year (yes this is possible).

Do I just through 100k into bonds yielding 4-6% or something?

>>16323465
>23
>engineering
>making over 100K
Unless they went into mining or petroleum engineering, it is extremely unlikely they are making that much fresh out of school.

>>16323500
I’m with you but I got in too early and my asshole hurts now

>>16323576
*Throw 100k into bonds yielding 4-6% or something?

>>16323522
>You're not wrong

feels good. to be fair FA is still great to assist in TA trading decisions. i traded NVDA on that recent pop because i was trapped in it on a long position the day before, i sold in the 209's because people on stocktwits were talking about it breaking 210 that day and i couldn't watch it, went all the way into the 212's i believe. i own NVDA products and know they're a great company fundamentally, so i don't mind holding them long but never would hold them short overnight, know what i mean? that's where i find it useful, but sentiment on social media already handles a lot of that i feel, and news catalysts which are pretty quick to learn about in the morning.

>TA will always be a massively powerful tool to identifying key entry and exit points

feels fucking good, man. seriously can't recommend No Nonsense Forex enough, even though I trade stocks, the idea of making an algorithm based on indicators is game changing. i'll give you a free one: look into the Hull Moving Average. try different fibonacci numbers for the settings, that shit will change your life. that same charge i showed earlier, for example, with the HMA(34), pic related. note where price crosses it. note how well it hugs the price. i don't bother with the color changes based on slope. and yes, i love heiken ashi too, sue me, the bottoms make for a great stop loss 1 or 2 candles behind.

>>16323528
there's going to be a time where SGMO won't dip again (fucking manipulation i swear...) but i don't see that happening until some time in the middle or end of next year. i'd love to just buy in right before big catalysts knowing they have a high probability of being successful spikes because of my FA into the company, rather than waiting all this time when i could have cut my losses at 12 and bought back in at 8. do that until it doesn't dip anymore and then honestly i'll probably just wait and watch after taking my profit and see when it enters another cycle at a higher price.

>>16323576
>$4k per year
How much you have to start? Buy a few hundred shares of some blue chips you like and sell OTM covered calls while collecting dividends. Super boring. Pretty safe with good yield though.

Gonna buy AMRN puts since it seems like most of smg is doing calls

>>16323601
you're like 48 hours late.....
...

>>16323601
The day to do this was yesterday

>>16323599
Zero. I'm 26 and will be totally out of debt in a couple of weeks.

I need 4k a year to pay my bills.

>Blue Chips

Any reason not to just buy VYM or Dogs of the Dow?

Why not just bonds? Wouldn't that be even safer with likely a higher dividend/yield (not including total return)?

I really appreciate you answering. Thank you.

New lesson learned this week because i'm dumb and failed to consider: If trading stocks that are tied to an underlying commodity, both the stock AND the commodity have to be in agreement on a trend.

>>16323468
Details on tomorrow’s meeting?
>>16323538
No I think it was a wine company... he made like an analyst report, he put time into making the layout nice and stuff. I was just curious if that was you.
Financial analysis appreciated, but I’m quite bullish on Merck into any dips. It keeps hitting resistance around its current level.
>>16323485
Somewhere with less anime. Really anywhere else on the internet.
>>16323484
Sort of?
I try to buy dips in companies I like, I set a few limit buys for calls below the day’s lows so if they keep falling I’ll snatch them up.

No day trades though, I guess I usually do hold overnight at least. Here I bought a bunch of these calls starting at 0.19 all the way down to .10, started selling them at .20 but I think it’s due for a bounce.

>>16323631
https://investor.amarincorp.com/events/event-details/jefferies-2019-london-healthcare-conference

>>16323576
probably dump everything into a Vanguard account i'd reckon. or an index fund. the average return on the S&P over the past 90 years is 9.8%, and Trump is president so it made that in only half of this year so far. getting 10% a year you could be getting $5k/year off of only $50k, see what I mean?

these are things i plan on doing when i get a million in savings and can live off of 50k/year interest, in the mean time i work and spend most of my free time learning about day trading and indicators and associated shit. when you know what you're doing and actively trade for a living, 1% a day isn't all that unreasonable in all honesty. no one wants to put in the work though and a lot of people are fucking dumbasses who can only flip burgers for a living, though.

>>16323639
You aren't worried about the SP being overvalued? High Dividend stocks make more sense to me, however I keep hearing there is no functional difference between selling for capital gains and getting a dividend.

I think $60 per is a reasonable price right after 12/28 for AMRN. Remember, the stock will be flying high before and after that date. The buyout will be x 2 the stock price. So 30 a share x 2. As we enter January the stock will only go higher cause people are gonna be buying it and the drug like crack. Why would big pharma wait and end up forking out more green bags? From a bean counter point it makes little since to pay more for something if you ain't got to. The longer it goes, the higher the price. aka Lipotor @ 90 per a year after it came out on the market. So basically after 12/28 there's no way you can lose, the stock price will rise no mater what, either due to the buyout or as Profit flows in.

>>16323601
How fucking low can it go?

>>16323687
$90/share absolute minimum

>>16323637
Interesting thanks
>8:40 AM Thursday, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) is 12:40 AM Thursday best coast time
Alright FINE I’ll try to scoop up some cheapies in the morning.
>>16323664
Who says it’s over valued?
I just took SOME profits in my SPLV today, and added to QYLD. You might want to look into those if you’re concerned. But those could definitely dip or crash or whatever, SPLV is pretty up for the year.

Ultimately you can’t know the future, so you gotta keep some cash just in case and then when Berkshire dips you’ll be able to buy it.

Did anyone buy the dip in BRK today? It’s too far above my basis but it’s not such a bad entry point.

>>16323622
Dogs of the Dow would be considered blue chips. And yeah, bonds would be safer, all things considered, because its debt that you hold so you have more rights to payment. Plus government bonds only fail when the government cant tax people anymore. But no, it's not higher yield. Pick a nice blue chip, get say an average of 4% dividend yield. It varies of course, DIS gives like 1% rn, M gives like 9%, F gives 7%, you get the picture. On top of that yield, you can sell out of the money covered calls against your position for another 3-10% (depending on volatility of your stock) PER MONTH. The risks here are if your stock declines in value of course, but if you pick one with good fundamentals that you just wanna hold for the dividends then that shouldnt matter. Other risk is if the value of the calls you wanna sell declines and you can't make as much money unless you wait for the stock to move a bit to sell your option. Plus if the option gets exercised out of the money, you still make a profit and keep the premium, but if your stock declines in value to such a point that you're selling a call that, if exercised, would cause you to sell at a loss, that would hurt.

>>16323699
That's why the Buffet 90% Equity/10 Cash% split sounds pretty good to me.

What do you think of that allocation?

>>16323631
>I try to buy dips in companies I like, I set a few limit buys for calls below the day’s lows so if they keep falling I’ll snatch them up.

neat. i've actually recently been learning a lot about options, it's something i've always just outright avoided because all of the "loss porn" i've seen has been tied directly to options so i've always seen it as high risk (pic related, recent one on the last ATVI earnings, made a huge impact on me about risk and gambling vs. running this like a business with discipline and consistency, not a get rich quick scheme). for me the big deal has been open interest walls and max pain, really blew my mind when i started seeing how it effects where market makers will often "pin" a price to a certain level, making certain day trades all of a sudden make a lot of sense and become extremely predictable.

if i ever did options i'd likely only do covered calls. i plan on learning all about iron condors and butterflies and all that shit too because im passionate about this and find it extremely fun regardless of the money involved, i love the strategy, but i can definitely see how learning the ins and outs of options can help me even as a day trader, regarding support and resistance levels.

in the end: as long as you're making money bro, that's all that matters. i'm just looking to make $200/day consistently, so don't think im making fun of you for making small gains or anything, it's just a different way of doing it. i'll definitely keep your strategy in mind though, i love hearing what other people's strats are and if they're working well, i often at least check them out for myself in my paper trading or back testing. i absorb stock market/financial education like a fucking sponge, i love this shit. it's like Magic: The Gathering but way deeper in strategy and you can actually make a ton of money off of it, I love it.

so if i understand this correctly, if I buy an option contract with a premium of $0.10, I can only lose $10?

>>16323719
>The risks here are if your stock declines
>F
Depreciation of F is not a risk, it is a sure bet. F is a terrible investment.

>>16323725
this is the case for call and put contracts.
if you buy the option, you can chose whether to execute or not. so worst case, you chose not to execute, and you just lose the money you spent on the contracts.

there are non-exchange exotic types of options that you can use to lose much, much more money, but you need to lose a certain amount with the "standard" pedestrian contracts before you get access to the elite ultra-high risk stuff.

>>16323719
Couldn't I just go with high-yield bonds to get more yield? Couldn't I just reinvest whatever yield I don't use as an inflation hedge?

>>16323723
>loss porn
>options
...That about sums it up. Trading stocks, I assess risk fairly well and my losses never pile up. Once I started in options, yeah I made a couple 100-400% returns in short time, but those losses started outpacing my gains, and fast. Now one put on TSLA, which I thought was easy money, is gonna wipe out all my options gains.

If you bought T during the 2018 mega dip @ 28 a pop you'd now have a nice gain (it's now 37ish) plus be bagging a Fat Divvy 5% (0.51x4). In other words, the only way you'd be in the red is if we got another massive mega dip. So your investment would be pretty safe.

>>16323664
well obviously that would be something to consider. me though? i'd likely just end up trading on the daily time frame for 15 mins a day instead of day trading whenever i had that much money, make 10-20% and be happy. once you get enough savings, earning your time back is more important. VP from no nonsense forex trades only on the daily time frame for example (but forex, not stocks). day trading is a lot more lucrative in my experience, i made over $1k today in my paper account off of only $30k trades for example. still collecting data and being extremely safe, probably overly safe, but i think it's all worth it to collect all this data and really KNOW my system works, you know what i mean? im just 4 months into this so spending another whole year seems fine to me despite my success so far with back and forward testing. i've heard stories of people who have fucked up for years, over a decade even, before figuring it out, and im only 30. i've got time, and i intend to invest it into making damn sure i know wtf im doing when the time comes to use real money on a daily basis.

i have high hopes for SGMO, if it can pop hard on ASH that extra $10k+ would really help sandbag me against losses when i start out day trading with real money. once that happens it's go time.

HOW THE FUCK DID HE KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST WINNERS TODAY?!
That’s a quick 5% or so, not bad.

>>16323723
>it's something i've always just outright avoided because all of the "loss porn" i've seen has been tied directly to options
Same, but also it just seems complicated. That’s why I’m so cheap about it.
I’ve definitely lost money with it, but I’m probably doing pretty well with it right now depending on how AMRN goes.
If they can hit $24.50 before 12/27 I’ll be a happy guy...

>>16323743
>F is a terrible investment
It's probably one of the most predictable stocks I've ever traded. It's gonna be fine. Basically have backing by Volkswagen. If it goes under, they're gonna come in and scoop it up. Germans aren't fucking around on this one.

>>16323757
>high yield bonds
Like what? Junk bonds? I'd say those are just as risky, if not more so than blue chips. And for what? 3% interest? You want high yield credit go join lending club or something.

>>16323801
Ok thank you.

Debate night debate night!
I’m gonna go to the gym and watch the beginning of during some LISS cardio. We may get some based Bernie healthcare cheapies!

I suspect the crushing of GEO has something to do with tonight.

>>16323664
It seems like there's virtually no difference between SP500 ETF and the best divy stocks.. one might outperform the other by a percent or two every other year

>>16323751
I think what I don't grasp is the whole executing an option, I'm gonna go watch some more videos on this, thanks for the response

>>16323835
They are extremely closely correlated.

I think it just comes down to psychological preference.

>>16323835
MRK’s yield beats the SPY...
But lots of risk from Washington!

>>16323839
you call your broker and tell them to execute.
the execution is the big payoff, it's the cumshot, it's what you're paying for. it's the whole point, the coalescence of the contract from an abstract agreement into the tangible

most traders have an execution ritual, or a variety of different execution rituals for different situations. I won't go into too much detail about that (for 5A reasons), but you know it when you see it.

where is sunny d, are we watching the debates in 20 minutes or nah?

>>16323759
yup, that's why every time i see someone posting how much they earned on one options bet, i laugh. i know they're gonna lose all that shit and then some eventually, classic gamblers mentality lol.

covered calls though... that's something when i read about, it got me really interested. just imagine if that ATVI guy did covered calls instead, and actually owned the underlying stock when playing the earnings? the stock is currently recovering in price too, i know because i've been playing it based on keltner channels and bought the dip around $52. imagine how much of a difference that would have made instead of losing $30k lmao. covered calls just sound so safe to me, like okay you cap your profits but so what? you still make a good profit if it hits your price in a month. if it doesn't, you still own your shares, you still get the premium. just sounds like a win/win to me, i could definitely see doing it whenever i have a million in savings similar to what >>16323599 touched upon.

>>16323794
main issue i have with playing options is how far out i feel safe with predicting. it's hard enough to predict what is going to happen in the next couple of minutes, let alone the next day or week or month. the ironic thing is that people think day trading is really risky but i feel like it's the least risky way to trade because you don't have to deal with after hours bullshit that can happen overnight. "oops you just lost 10%" (netflix anyone? lol) doesn't happen in the middle of the day outside of a flash crash which happened exactly one time 9 years ago and has since been legislated against.

i use multiple time frame analysis but what's happening on the daily time frame mostly just helps to get an idea for my bias on day trading, i don't like to hold a stock overnight because i fear gaps. only options trading i think i'd ever do would be covered calls, some sort of hedge against my shares (long/short), or i guess weeklys since they're the smallest time frame?

AMRN will be bought for one very simple reason. Profit. Sure those other "fish" bios may have a working product.. in 5-10 years after all the drug trials and whatnot get done, and that's even assuming they end up working. But here's the thing; Big Pharma wants the insane Profits today!, not buying some company on a hope and dream that it works out. And then what if it don't work? Big Pharma would've blown all those fat bags for nothing. Very bad on them. No, they want a product that works right out the gate. AMRN is it.

>>16323846
Yah with divys it seems like you have more control or is higher time preference cause it's quarterly and guaranteed

The Chinky Winky currency is losing value again.

>>16323839
Think of it like insurance. Say you have car insurance, and you pay gekko $100 a month. If you don't get in an accident do you ring them up to pay for your damages? No, so you don't exercise your insurance contract. If you did get in an accident, you'd call them and tell them to come pay for your car.

It's the same with options. You buy a contract that says you can buy 100 shares of GKKO at $10, good for one month. If the stock stays at $9, why would you pay $10 for it? But if the stock goes to $11, now you ring up your contract guy and tell him you wanna buy his shares for $10 as was agreed.

Received Bowl America letter to shareholders announcing first quarter earnings... they blamed bad weather again. Looks like my share may be dead money...

>>16323719
>The risks here are if your stock declines in value of course, but if you pick one with good fundamentals that you just wanna hold for the dividends then that shouldnt matter. Other risk is if the value of the calls you wanna sell declines and you can't make as much money unless you wait for the stock to move a bit to sell your option. Plus if the option gets exercised out of the money, you still make a profit and keep the premium, but if your stock declines in value to such a point that you're selling a call that, if exercised, would cause you to sell at a loss, that would hurt.

honestly feel like you can eliminate that problem pretty easily if you git gud with technical analysis/indicators. even a basic bitch setup with the MACD, 200EMA and 20EMA is better than nothing. just trade 15 minutes a day on the daily time frame on your favorite stock, buy/sell according to the technicals and otherwise do the covered calls thing while collecting dividends, boom easy money. have like 3-5 different stocks you like so if one is down trending you can just sell it and put it in one of the other ones that's doing well, gain both from the dividends and covered calls AND from the stock price moving in your desired direction, win/win. it's literally not even hard you could do fine LITERALLY with just the technical i just said here and nothing else.

>>16323897
Low time preference*

>>16323908
I kind of want to get into options, so let me try to understand something. If a stock's price is $10, and the call contract is to buy 100 shares at $10, is it still worth executing? You have to pay for the right to buy 100 shares at $10, right?

>>16323801
>If it goes under,
It isn't about it going under, it is about your 7% divvy only offsetting part of its annual decline in share price. Holding F is a losing proposition. Look at the chart.

Nakd possibly going 100-1 r/s. What should I do?

You guys should have shilled KRTX more goddamn

>>16323996
I'm still kicking myself for ignoring KRTX when I saw it shilled around $60. I looked it up, and it was already up 200%, so I said, "fuck that." End of the day, it was up 400%.

>>16323964

well, in your hypothetical situation, you already are holding the contracts? so if you have time before expiration left on them, you would never want to execute. you would sell the contracts or hold them and wait to execute at a higher price.

if you are at the end of the expiration date, and you have to chose to execute or not execute, you would have lost money because of the premium. But in that case the question of "should I execute or not" depends on what the order book looks like.

>>16323964
the idea is that the person who buys the contract is betting on the price of the stock going to $10 + the cost of buying the contract, that's his break even. say the cost was $0.10, if the stock got to $10.10 and he exercised his options and sold immediately, he'd be at break-even, no profit. anything over that is profit of course.

people who buy calls are betting on the price going beyond the strike price + the cost of the contract before OpEx. people who write calls are betting that it doesn't get there so they keep their shares plus the cost they got paid (the $0.10 or the "premium"), it's considered like insurance against the price of the stock going down. puts are the same thing but betting the stock goes down in price instead of up.

what gets people in trouble is that you can buy calls without owning the underlying stock. if you write calls for $10 and the stock goes to $20 and you don't own anything, you have to buy at $20 and give it to the guy for $10. covered calls are like you buy the stock at $9, you write for $10 getting a free $0.10 per share lets say, and if it goes to $20 you have to sell to the guy for $10 so you don't get $20 but hey you still made $1 profit plus the premium. writing covered calls caps your profits in return for buffering you against losses.

EZ mode:
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/032615/what-difference-between-covered-call-and-regular-call.asp

>>16323964
I miss 8chiin, it allowed 5 picture posting and larger size limits. That wheelchair bound liberal has worked day and night to suppress 8chiin's successor. Otherwise I could post a lot of the images I saved about options n' shit.

Stock price at 10 dollars, call contract to buy at strike price 10 = at the money option; worthless if the price DOES NOT go above strike price before expiration. Executing at the money is a waste because you can simply buy through your broker. Executing if the stock price is 12 dollars = 200 dollar profit (100 shares bought at 10 dollars can be immediately sold for a 2 dollar profit each). Hopefully that makes sense.

bought my first option ever guys

i feel like i leveled up

>>16323669
Kikeheimer issaying optimistic sales are already priced in the stock and cost of expansion will limit profits

>>16324048
You did. Congrats. Remember though, the levels get harder.

>Biden's complete deflection
Someone's going to jail, lmao

Hmm interesting bit here. Seems Gilead is using AMRN's drug in a separate drug trial they got going on. it also seems Gilead is looking to buy some company, although they didn't say anything specific on that. But still this bit about them buying another company came out just 1 day after the bit about them using AMRN's drug. Maybe there is a deal a brewing..

>>16324112
Gilead also has 25 billion in cash laying around.

>>16324112
Amrn is the new chainlink you are being scammed with fake news

>>16324055
Everybody is laughing at that retard though.

>>16324112
Where did you see the bit about them buying a company?

Warren comes out of the gate with that fury, Pete looking calm and collecting and on message
Biden off to a slow start...
>>16324110
?
He's political elite. Trump and Biden will never face any consequences. America is too busy equivocating "look what trump did!" "look what biden did!"
Trump would probably pardon Biden himself if he were found guilty of anything.
>>16324130
Partially true, it's being called sensationalist. He wrote a headline grabbing hit-piece.
>>16324112
Source or you're bullshitting

>>16324130
Do I buy more amrn I bought in at 22.50 or somewhere in there, or should I see if it goes lower before the 28 dec

>AMRN $35 call in two months
>NET $15 put in one month

thoughts anons?

Sigh..

AMRN call for Dec 27 or January?

>>16324175
I did january considering 28th is the conference

>>16324175
LOW puts for January

>>16323268
>Look what happened a couple months ago when it fell to 3 dollars.
can't wait to see the pink wojaks

Should I invest my next wage on AMRN or AMD?

I've already got 225 shares in AMRN and the holy buyout is coming but AMD has been rising steady but I could of missed that train....

>>16324206
It got back to 4.5 not on significant news. It's down on bad news that isn't that bad. God of blown calls.

>>16324160
https://www.streetinsider.com/Analyst+Comments/Amarin+%28AMRN%29+Smacked+on+Bearish+Call%2C+But+Gilead+%28GILD%29+Adding+Vascepa+to+its+NASH+Combo+Raises+Eyebrows/16159446.html

Dem debate is on now. They're not letting muh Tulsi speak at all.

>>16324224

Train for AMD is gone. Watch AMRN a bit more but its probably a safe bet. Or you could go long on AMD and ride the wave.

if this is all the dem's got, trump is EZ reelected in 2020. what a fucking joke, entire media and establishment behind them and they're still losing holy shit how can you be this bad.

how biden is still even a candidate let alone a free man when this exists is absurd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY LITERALLY ON VIDEO TAPE AND HE'S STILL A CANDIDATE WHAT A FUCKING JOKE LMAOOOOOOOOO

>>16324263
Biden is Illuminati pedophile mob boss that most likely rapekills children for fun based on the hours of video of him openly fondling children in front of their parents. Pure evil

>tfw Viacom bagholder
>>16324175
I wish I'd have paid the extra to have my call go into january, though I might sell before the FDA date regardless. Depends on how much I'm up/down. Sometimes you gotta hedge your bets.
>>16324190
Seems like they've taken some of HD's lunch, not sure why you'd bet against either one though. But since you keep talking about it, here's your (you)
>>16324233
She's doin great bruh, her and Pete are the only ones with any poise, everyone else seems stressed out and affected.
OOF that Harris lash out got some major likes. Tulsi goes on fox a lot? She's a bit shaken.

Everything Trump has done has taken it's toll on Biden. He looks much more wiped than ever. Well played...

im learning so much but now im stumped on how theta decay makes you lose money over time

Futures are doin kinda bullish stuff...

Who cares about the election? There are rumbling that trade deal is failing and won't go anywhere. How can we justify current valuations when the Dec 2018 bottom was the correct value for no deal with China?

>>16324022
>>16324029
>>16324030
Thanks. I still feel like I should learn a little more before going into options though, but now I know what a breakeven price is. I almost feel like the only way to learn is to go in a experience (losing money) firsthand.

>>16324328
They know Dems will lose. Orange Bull Champion reigns.

>>16324228
>blown
4.5 was my max target on that little uptrend when pendulum was moon talking and telling everybody to buy

Not a Trump fan but man none of these guys really inspire me outside of Tulsi and Yang, neither of which have a chance in hell. Biden is the safe pick but boy is he bland. Booker comes off as a used car salesman, not sure how having a gay in the white house will affect world affairs, Harris is a slimy slut, and the rest are literally whos. I'll just ride the chaos of trump.

>>16324364
I feel like Yang has a slightly higher chance than most candidates, but still not a high one. maybe im biased because im yanggang all the way

>>16324364
very much agree but Amy K is sort of winning me over.

I'm going to check out of the debate though. Time for weights. None of this matters, either he keeps the economy going or we get a new president. My money is staying in the market.

Here is AMRN's Q4 Revenue for the current high risk version of the drug with the much lower user base. If this is what they can do with just a small user base what do you think will happen with a much larger one after 12/28? I see lots of Heavy Green Bags that's what.

>>16324373
He has no chance, he has one issue on his platform and is very weak on china

>>16324335
>I almost feel like the only way to learn is to go in a experience (losing money) firsthand.

literally just get a TD ameritrade account and use their PaperMoney shit. also called "demo trading", it allows you to do trades but with fake money instead of real. everything else is real though except the money. this is what is called "forward testing", back testing uses stuff that has already happened but with paper trading you can make trades based on predictions you make and see how you do without "knowing the future" like you do in back testing. you don't have to lose money or anything, not at all. seriously, you should do paper trading for at least a year before you even start trading on a small account.

DONT fucking trade options without owning the underlying stock, especially if you're a noobie. don't fucking do it. just don't. seriously dude look into paper trading, it's what im doing right now even while testing out my own system i've created. you'll be glad you did, don't risk real money when you don't know wtf you're doing lmao kid don't scare me like that.

>>16324364
>Biden is the safe pick but boy is he bland
He's looked increasingly dirty as the Ukraine thing has progressed. Not to mention the wealth of footage of young girls looking extremely uncomfortable with his touchy feely routine.

>>16323867
It's like 60 bucks for broker executed trades.
I'll just do It myself from the platform.

>>16324398
biden is dirty, warren is fucking insane crazy cat lady type, bernie had a heart attack recently. face it, dems are fucked this time around, they have no obama.

No candidate even close to Big Dick Trump in my book. I’m sending him a solid one in the 2020 ballots

>>16324290
I mean nothing by this, but theta is the simplest greek to learn.

It's time, theta decay is time decay. When it's expiration, end of day on friday, it's 0.
When the theta is close to 0/expiration when your in the money, the price does not fluxuate around based on speculation as much, just pure value of the contract.
When the theta is very high, say when you have like 6 months; the price of the contract can be higher than it's real value

(Example. strike price is 10, stock price is 12; actual value of the contract is worth 200 but can be above that actual value based on bullish signals)
(Example. strike price is 10, stock price is 9; actual value of the contract is 0 but is still worth money thanks to theta; theta to an extent caps your losses)

the others are gnarlier

>>16324415
>face it
NO U

Stock market keeps rallying or new president
I'll give you a hint: stock market hasn't even flinched

>>16324286
>bet against
It's because Lowe's is bouncing off the 118/120 ceiling again. It had a great Q3 report and even raised their yearly, eating HD's lunch like you said, but still only shot up to 120.71 before slowly trickling down all day. Compare that to Target who went up 15 points early and steadily ticked up all day. The stocks are at a same price area, tho granted slightly different sectors, but Target did a lot better compared to Lowe's.

If it had broke 120 and held or kept going I would've said it's finally breaking out, but it didn't, so it's just gonna bounce back down over the next couple months like it has for the last couple times over the past year and a half.

>>16324373
>>16324364
>>16324337
>>16324381
Unfortunately, the Dems have realized that it's almost as profitable to be in second place as it is to win, with much less effort required.
I would honestly like to replace all federal elections with a draft, myself.

>>16324398

Yeah its not looking good but its not like Biden did anything that another politician wouldn't have done. Lets be real, if your dad was the VP of the most powerful country on earth you'd be getting some kickbacks too.

Oh forgot Warren and Sanders who seem to be running for high school class president where you promise shit you cant deliver. Plus I worry about capital flight in the off chance that we get a wealth tax.

>>16324429
Listen to this helpful soul senpai. If you don’t understand theta, you have no business in options whatsoever

>>16324431
>stock market is rallying because of trump
>damn better get rid of this trump guy

???? do you hate money or something what is this?

Options can really fuck you over. Some poor fool wound up 200k in the hole cause of it. That's why I don't fuck with them. I don't know what I'm doing and fuck going into debt is the last thing I want. Especially when I make shit to start with.

Is a reverse split ever a good thing for a call option? I have an epiry date in december but there's an r/s next week.

How the fuck is the wage gap STILL a talking point. For the love of god its been destroyed so many times by economist. I guess a lie told enough times becomes true for all intents and purposes. Its not like there isnt a wage gap but they never go over the reasons WHY. Like no one cares WHY.

>>16324376
how much do they make (profit and/or revenue) from each 30-day prescription they sell?

>>16324436
>Dems have realized that it's almost as profitable to be in second place as it is to win, with much less effort required.
woke
it's actually better to raise campaign money with someone like Trump in office. They love this

>>16324486
There's folk who won't believe you no matter what. You're just mansplaining. There's people in my family that just won't hear anything I have to say on it and it's endlessly frustrating.

>>16324486
what about the wage gap between age groups? why is a 50 year old allowed to make more money than a 30 year old, 20 year old, or 16 year old?
its so unfair, it HAS to STOP now. :^)

Why wouldn't you just pay $100 now for a call option for a company like Apple or Google that expires in like two years?

>>16324329

>How can we justify current valuations when the Dec 2018 bottom was the correct value for no deal with China?

December 2018 wasn't about No Deal though. It was a tantrum against the Fed raising rates and shit-tier earnings Q4 earnings in December. Also, media hysteria.

That week leaking in Christmas was fucking insane. 2% down days, over and over and over.

A no deal scenario would be an instant retreat to June 3rd lows. After that, it all depends on the Fed and company earnings.

Meanwhile, in the Asian trading session right now....

JUST LOOK at the Shanghai index. Fucking insane that it's only down .14%.

>>16324351
Buying at 3 and swinging as it went up made me a lot of money.

>>16319619
What does "of 30" mean?
Why would buying KO be bad right now?
Pepsi I don't want because of their SJW commercials (and coke is just tastier, I like 7up tho).

>>16324512
Or we could just vote for Yang and get our dirty dirty Yangbucks

>>16324486
>She even memorized faked numbers
Truly dedicated.

>>16324175
Jan. You want that extra breathing room.

>>16324190
Uh you sure?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/19/us-housing-starts-total-1point314m-in-october-vs-1point320m-expected.html

"U.S. homebuilding rebounded in October and permits for future home construction jumped to a more than 12-year high.
The data pointed to strength in the housing market amid lower mortgage rates.
Housing starts increased 3.8% to 1.314 million units last month, with single-family construction rising for a fifth straight month and activity in the volatile multi-family sector rebounding solidly, the Commerce Department said."

>>16324524
wait a minute, PE isn't pepsi stock, you meant P/E ratio of 30. gotta read up on what that means

>>16324525
This would probably steadily increase the value of LINK, at least

>>16324020
Did you trade VLTC, LAKE, SES?
100%+ moves come around periodicly. Catch the next one and plan to atleast to swing or do a couple trades out of it if the market conditions and news is big stuff.

>>16324478
Only if they shrink the float to micro levels and a Chad like sherili buys a huge block of the shares out standing.
Companies do reverse splits to either meet listing requirements or wipe out a bad chart and fuck with share structure.
Its generally a bad sign.

>>16324537
>sure
It's bouncing off of the 118/120 ceiling it hasn't managed to break through yet. It'll fall for the next couple months like the last couple times it's done this. See >>16324433

>>16324524
KO is overpriced right now and due for a correction. Might still climb for a while before it happens though.

>>16324524
is there a Jalapeno McChicken girl?>

>>16324512
>why is a 50 year old allowed to make more money than a 30 year old, 20 year old, or 16 year old?
Because that 50 year old has already made and learned from the mistakes that the 30 year old won't admit to, the 20 year old doesn't believe in, and the 16 year old can't conceive of.

>>16324439
>Lets be real, if your dad was the VP of the most powerful country on earth you'd be getting some kickbacks too.
Uh huh. Meanwhile the dems cry impeachment on the weakest scenarios they think they can spin as corruption.

>>16324524
7up is dr.pepper, dude.
KDP

>>16324478
No r/s is not a good because it’ll cause a sell off/dip. What you’re going to want to do is sell to close your call option then buy to open a put option. Once you purchased a put don’t get greedy with an r/s dip, sell to close any time after you make money and a smart way is when the stock first dips sell sell sell; after that is a gamble and up to you an your risk management

>>16324569
KO dropped 10% just last year. Any more than that requires weak earnings, which they haven't been reporting.

>>16324597
Quite the hypocrisy. They really rely on ignorance of the masses. Riddle me this: Democrat going after a president investigating corruption, for corruption, has been involved in how many IPOs in sectors the house may have been considering legislation on, that suddenly the legislation vanished or changed?

>>16324548
The ticker is TNK Which is a subsidiary of TK. I think they're just doing it to bump the share price up to attract those chads that dont buy pennies. It's 2.49 now. Sea shipping seems good to me idk.

>>16324571
No but I found this.

>>16324641
Is this a fetish? Just when you thought you've seen everything....

>>16324641
excuse me, waiter?
there is a hair in my sandwich

>>16324605
I can't do naked puts. I am "the poor".

Heh, I'm down a bit over 10% (2,158.77). My only green position straight across the board is KDP. But if I sold my AMRN now (I won't) I could walk away with almost 1k more than I put in and still keep my other positions so that's a win.

IF THE DOW ISNT UP 500+ POINTS TOMORROW IM GOING TO SET MYSELF ON FIRE AND THEN DECAPITATE MYSELF USING A PULLY SYSTEM, A 1998 VOLKSWAGON AND A LONG STEEL CHAIN

>>16324669
Show your positions so I know what you died for

>>16324641
I'll ask you clowns because anonymity breeds honesty as well as contemp. If you were smart but not educated in the market and going to jump into the stock market tomorrow, who would you pick as a broker?

>>16324684
Your fat ass mother.
I guess ETrade would be my #2

>>16324684
Burger? TD Ameritrade.

>>16324681
-LMT(11/22) $390 Call - down 13.1%
-AAPL(11/22) $262.5 Call - down 12.5%
-AMD(11/22) $41 Call - down 25%

oh fuck lmao they're bringing up khashoggi
good shit good shit

>>16324131
https://www.statnews.com/2019/11/20/gilead-ceo-daniel-oday-says-company-is-in-an-acquisitive-mode/

>>16319619
seems like both mcdonalds and coke habe a P/E of 30. same as microroft. amd/amazon are much higher in P/E, that metric isn't really doing anything for me.

>>16324569
maybe. mostly interested in it since they have been increasing dividends for 50 years in a row or something. and since it's coke i think it will keep climbing even if it drops down later

>>16324602
oh shit, i didn't know!

>>16324669
What kind of '98 VW?

jesus what the hell happened with Dr Pepper in 2018?
their dividends went from 0.58 USD to 0.15 USD as well

>>16324659
Best thing for you to do then, is to get out of your call option and grab what you can while they are still worth something. Remember each day your call is worth less and less money then when the stock r/s it’ll be worth even less. It’s slightly possible for reverse splits to help a company long term but it’s never good for the stock price short term. Your December call is not long term. It stings losing money but being stubborn and holding till you lose it all is burning in fire. At least you’ll come out with something to try and gain your money back. If there was a chance to bounce back you could try and break even but that’s up to your risk management if you care to lose the money or not. R/s is not that chance when you’re playing with options no no. Now if you just bought the stock and fundamentals was there, you could bag hold long through it

>>16324684
probably boomerguard because after being in crypto for so long I can only see myself trading index funds

>>16324787
All they had to do was give every American a Dr. Pepper when Chinese Democracy came out like they promised and the horror could have been averted.

>>16324684
goldsman Sachs if I meet the requirements. Else IB cause they have borrows.

>>16324636
Its 8 to 1 right. Itd bring the float from 269million to like 33. Which isnt too small but small enough to move.
I mean it's a real company unlike biotech meme stocks that I said do reverse splits just to stay listed.
Its seeing some action and volume is coming in. Thought it was mostly for earnings. It popped up on a scans for me this week but wrote it off.
Cant really say anymore I've only superficially glanced at stuff.
Is it an ADR or something. SEC filings are sparse and my paid scanner didnt catch the news of an up coming reverse split nor was there a filing for it.

>>16324684
I use a roboadvisor to do it for me. I only manage 1% of my bag for gambling and moonshots.

>>16324787
found it, was a merger
>Keurig (/ˈkjʊərJɡ/) is a beverage brewing system for home and commercial use.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keurig
In July 2018, Keurig Green Mountain merged with Dr Pepper Snapple Group in a deal worth $18.7 billion, creating Keurig Dr Pepper, a publicly traded conglomerate which is the third largest beverage company in North America.

>Yang actually giving a fuck about men

>>16324787
They merged with Keurig green mountain.

>>16324684
Heard Stratton Oakmont was pretty gud.
I use Schwab tho

>>16324819
Yeah it's a crude shipping company out of Bermuda. I think ADR

I wanna warn everyone because I saw a few too many people interested to trade them, options are very risky and strategy is ABSOLUTE key, you CAN NOT just buy a call or a put on its own, with no idea what you're buying without taking enormous risk.

Pic extremely related, immediately after a massive price movement in AMD, I expected a pullback and paid the premium for a highly volatile stock; which made it very expensive, and gave me a very short time-span. I lost a lot of money in weeks, short term high IV contracts are fucking GARBAGE.

Using options to lock in gains, and hedge against loss is a very effective strategy in crab market. Low volatility means cheap insurance. There are strategies to sell options that make it so your potentially infinite loss turn into limited loss (look up put spread, call spread). Do not get chewed up like I did, learn what IV is and learn strategy in options, DO NOT learn from experience. The lesson is too expensive.

Looks like Dr Pepper also owns Schweppes.
Hm, too bad I'd be buying them at all time high if I did it now... what to do what to do...

How much do you guys get charged when you make an investment? I'm with HL and get charged £11.95 ($15.45)

>>16324912
$0

>>16324912
$0

>>16324738
thank you.

>>16324787
A growing Divvy. Think of KO in the early days. KDP 0.15 today, 20 yrs later? Who knows. I do know they just snatched the MCD's brand Coffee from KHC (I'm in KHC also). Also those Kureig machines? Well they ain't for just 1 cup drinks anymore. They've branched out into OTC medical cups as well.

>>16324925
>>16324928
How the fuck?

>>16324941
Just think. K Cup uh medical weed. They'd make a shit load of Profit.

Nikkei once dropped over 400 points on the report that Trump is going to sign those Hong Kong related bills. HSI have also dropped over 400 points.

>>16324968
America bitch

>>16324968
Fidelity and damn near any other brokerage. They have pretty much all moved to commission free trading because only boomers are fine with being charged for that shit.

>>16323484
why SGMO and not Editas?

>>16325002
>because only boomers are fine with being charged for that shit.
Literal boomer here and I'd much rather deal with no commission than no help and a commission.

>>16324969
Just think if they made an AMRN drug K cup. You know to keep you from having The Big One while you down that Triple Baconator at Wendy's later. (Wendy's should really be happy now, they can sell more Triple Baconators without worry about the bad P.R if a customer had The Big One inside)

>>16325053
>FDA clears the drug for latent infusion in commercial drink products
AMRN $500 EoY

>>16325002
What account type and what fees do you pay? Are you in the UK?

>>16325002
I just love how they were all forced into it because of robinhood and then big boy schwab, and yet they all crank out commercials about WE LOVE YOU WE DID THIS FOR YOU

when buying calls or puts on robinhood, why are some of the buy buttons red and some buy buttons green?

>>16325002
Centerpoint still charges.
It's like 0.004 per share and adjust based on trading volume.
It's the price of having a broker who can get you those pre borrows and HTB locates.

Vanguard hasn't dropped their fee yet.

>>16323528
>. If it WAS a p&d, you
How can you tell if it's a pump and dump or not?

>>16324602
Best zombiegorl...
>>16324669
I do hope you mean the Volkswagen microbus
>>16324712
>LMT
good on you last, but you should be BUYING LMT and also LHX. LHX just went ex divvy, might get ultra cheapies tomorrow, LMT should rally when we get closer to the div date.
>>16324636
FUCK I SOLD MY TNK PUT FOR LIKE $12 OF PROFIT JESUS FUCK WHYYYYYUU
>>16324819
>>16324684
I use Schwab, and I like Schwab. Soon I will try out tda tho just for experimenting with their interface.
>>16324597
Hot take, but all this shit surrounding Biden is business as usual, and didn’t involve undermining political rivals one whit. You people keep painting this as “trump did nothing wrong because Biden”

The system is corrupt. Trump acted like a business man and not a politician. And he shook Biden psychologically as a result. So while it almost certainly is abusing the power of office, he will reap only rewards from it.l

Trump would break any rule if he thought he could get away with it. And he will get away with it. The only question remaining is whether or not Ivanka will be the first female president.

You’re drinking the kool aid if you think either of these men are innocent. Your loyalty to political parties has warped your perception of reality.

>WARNING
WARNING
>WARNING
WARNING
>ULTRA
SPICY
>TAKE:
P/E multiples only mater in bear markets. Buy Pepsi, Coke, and McDonald’s any time they sell off. And ALWAYS. OWN. BERKSHIRE.

>>16325117
I think red means the ask price is higher than what they list there, meaning the green one would go through, and the red would be placing a bid for the option. Or something like that. You can expand them both and compare to find the difference to see what's going on.

>>16325153
>>16325117
Oh no, wait. I think the green is an interval of 5, and the red is less than 5 cents (Like 3 cents), which means you lose money by buying it, since Robinhood does minimum of 5 cents on some options

Hmm, found a message board dedicated to AMRN employee's venting about the company. From a few quick glances it seems three things are clear. New sales reps jobs they posted is "frozen". They got some big Saturday/Sunday meeting coming up at the last minute that was seemingly out of the blue. The overwhelming feeling is that sometime in Q1 2020 the company will be sold. So I dunno but it seems something is going on.

>>16324912
Fucking Canada. Fucking 4.95-9.95 per depending on how many shares I need to buy. Meaning it's cheaper to buy something with a high share price as I would be getting fewer total shares. The 4.95-9.95 is the minimum and maximum with the prices in between calculated at a certain amount of cents per share.

>>16325130
Are they're mailers or email spam?
Are they releasing press releases everyday?
Is there a filing were they disclose hiring "consultants"?
Are their offices in a strip mall?
Then chances are it's a pump n dump

>>16325140
If you just want to use td's think or swim platform open a margin account and withdraw right afterwards. I've had like 20 bucks in my TD account for years just to have access to their charting. No inactivity fees.

>>16325187
Could you copy paste some quotes? That sounds positively bearish.
>>16325199
That’s basically the plan re: TDA
Re: pump and dumps - gonna have to visit Vietnam before I decide whether or not I want to get back in to kblb.

>>16325187
proof or it didnt happen

>>16325267
http://cafepharma.com/boards/forums/amarin.839/

>>16325267
http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/forums/amarin.839/

>>16325273
>>16325276
Most of these seem like randoms from StockTwits? Anyone can register for these forums.

>>16325273
>Who is buying Amarin?
>Stop trying to create friction and anxiety attacks here! My DM assured us this morning the company has our best interests in mind. It’s truly about the patients and improving their lives!

These arent real people right? I dont know normalfags or go to normalfag sites. So I have no idea who people normally talk.

Also
>Is this an official Amarin Press Release from Gwen Fisher??!! No it isn’t jerk! Our jobs are safe. Upper Management wouldn’t lie to us. With this huge FDA news, Amarin will be expanding not downsizing!

>>16325328
>>16325328
Agree

>>16325328
Yup, that’s definitely what a majority of the posts are

>>16325349
>That english
Pajeet is bearish, I see

CERU my nigga

>>16325140
I like the hooker and yankee but tae is pretty great.

>>16324684
Robinhood. User friendly interface. Excellent for getting your feet wet in the market

>>16325053
Why not just put the fish oil in the baconator directly
Think about it
Then, charge $90 per for the "medical grade" baconator, but have insurance pay for most of it.
Damn we need to found some sort of /smg/ consulting firm or something, make some real money. This is too powerful to ignore.

>>16325117
Green means its gone up in value today (see the percentage and amount next to it). Red is exactly the opposite, the price has gone down.

>>16325117
For options, red means that RH sees the option price as having gone down that day, green means the option price stayed the same or went up since yesterday's close.
That being said, the RH listed spot price of options isn't really a relevant quantity unless the book is super tight and thickly populated

>>16323879
augh I was naht aware there was even a debate tonite, I no joke thought the dem debates were over. I don't follow dem politics my dude!

>>16325437
Ya messed up and now you are lying about it
It's ok and I forgive you
I only watched briefly, it was pretty gross. Joey B looked alive, at least. I heard to many whining female voices so I just turned it off. They have half female candidates and all female moderators, it was sonically unpalatable for me.
I mean most women have nice pleasant voices but not the female politician/journalist type nahmean

>>16325465
I never tell a lie! I was snuggled up under covers and having another nightmare about the ocean.
I legit think that's gonna screw them. For all the performative ideologically motivated talk of equality, it being women's turn, etc. I can't help but think they've overestimated how much of their base is sincerely motivated by that. For 99.9% of human history people have been trained to select tall, confident, sometimes frightening men as leaders and I can't see 40 years of theory changing that subliminal desire. If we're seeing even democratic voters saying Kamala has "substitute teacher energy" or Warren is "adorable" I can't see them getting the numbers they want across a sample of 300 million

>>16324894
>schweppes tonic water

>>16325199
>Is there a filing were they disclose hiring "consultants"?
why this?
>>16325199
>Are they releasing press releases everyday?
this is because they wanna hype?

>>16325512
This decade has been a prelude, but the next decade or so will really be the frothing high tide of genetic denial. It's everywhere now, underlying all modern neo-progressivism, and will only get more extreme.
There is no way back, the only way out is u/acc

What about the ocean frightens you? Wouldn't it be fun to listen to the more nautical side of the Modest Mouse discography and live on a sailing ship, maybe travelling to the Spanish Philippines to make your fame and fortune in the spice trade? Think about it

>>16325659
I should say, denial of genetics, biology, and base social impulse as well. Saying only genetics doesn't really capture my intent there

So those of you who have lost a shitload of money, what are you guys doing differently in terms of strategy? For me, I'm gonna stop buying something just because it tanked 30%.

>>16325583
>why this?
They have to disclose paid promotions.
Either the promoters/consultants are paid outright or are compensated in shares.
This is course is when its insider pumping.

>this is because they wanna hype?
Yep, hype up their stock to draw in traders, investors, and idiots who buy into meme stocks all to ultimately bring in the volume have a market to dump shares into.

I dont know what tactics promoters are currently using, there are probable pumps occurring right now but after all those halts back in 2015 or maybe before the otc market dried up.

>>16325674
>muh slippery slope to madness
You underestimate oscillations of public opinion. The pendulum swings one way, then the other.

Yes, the trend is your friend, but so is overshooting, overcorrecting, and reversion to the mean.

THat being said, I am a terrible trader so who knows.

>>16325856
We must
a c c e l e r a t e
Everywhere, without reservation or hesitation. No escape except to push on, push further, push faster. The stock market too. We're going to make the tech bubble look like a fuckin joke before the last Boomer dies. I'm talking about PE metrics just being listed by order of magnitude (hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, etx) because the exact number doesn't even matter anymore. We're going all the way

>>16324449
>damn better get rid of this trump guy
Not what I said.
It's not a matter of whether or not the dems are fucked, it's a matter of whether or not the market is. If he can keep unemployment low, the market hitting all time highs, etc. he's pretty much home free.

His base doesn't care if he's a criminal, they knew he was a shady motherfucker when they elected him. His base would extend term limits for him if they could. Basically, he needs to not have a sudden medical emergency, not fuck up any natural or manmade disasters that might occur, and keep people employed and spending.

But if he fucks it up somehow, it'll go to whatever dem gets trotted out to debate him.

>>16325904
>charting P/E on the logarithmic scale
very nice I like it.
buy FOOD YO
probably get that CMG, not enought P/E's on that one.

>>16325659
Jokes about "u/acc has no praxis lel" aside, you're kind of right, it's just that nobody has a choice. Deterritorialization of systems of capital is just inevitable, kind of sucks that we were born just after the peak of this phase of immanence. Visions of San Francisco without it's gleaming towers, nationwide skid-row favela-zone. I guess that's why we have to be traders, catching the coattails of AxSys will at least get us food in 2040.
I love the ocean, always been real real scared AND attracted to deep water. I chalk it up to visiting Monterey Bay aquarium as a toddler and seeing this titanic sunfish in a tank that seemed so large I couldn't imagine it ever ended. I was so young I'm not sure if I'm misremembering but they had this kind of fish-eye glass dome you could stand on while deep below you you could see what I assume were leopard sharks, but at the time I thought they were great whites. I further cemented this by having a scuba accident when I was 15, I fucked up my descent and my sinuses exploded 15m deep off Catalina island. My mask filled with blood and I was confident I was going to die until I pulled my mask off and opened my eyes underwater. I managed to orient myself against this black stretch of kelp forest far below me and managed to surface basically blind.

>>16325999
>999
fucking hell the Lemurs are here again

>tfw holding AMRN through the storm

>>16326018
Each day is dragging...28th of Dec seems so long away...

Is tomorrow going to be another shitty day?

>>16324749
As a burger, I would like to know where to acquire more of this type of fast food anime.

>>16326034
They can't keep pushing the market down, they can't keep trying to smoke out our shares.
Pls don't be selfish Bogdanoffs. Allow those who have stayed for so long some gains too.

>>16325682
Knife catching. And even worse, cost averaging a knife catch as it continues down to hell.

Uhhhh.... guys, is it just me, or was there and absolutely FUCKHUGE candle at the close for BMY? Like, the biggest candle it's had in years, maybe ever?

When I look at it on the daily, it's bright green!
but when I zoom out, it becomes a massive blood red candle.

Seems like it could be worth a gamble, I'm inclined to say buy a call at the open, but maybe even buy a strangle? Is that crazy?

(looks like they completed their celgene acquisition, and possibly 7 billion in buybacks?)
>>16325437
>I don't follow dem politics my dude!
you don't follow /smg/ either!

>>16324524
>Pepsi I don't want because of their SJW commercials
He hasn't seen the new Sprite tranny commercial

>>16325999
>nobody has a choice
That's exactly right
That is the whole point, the theme of the 21st century
Who can turn around a 10000 ton freight train? Who can change the direction of 7 billion "individuals", all of them eating and fornicating and crawling in the dirt?
The choice was made by existence, we are here to watch a 200 year long movie, and it seems by now that we have seen enough to know how the next act will proceed.

>>16326149
>when the populace notices you're spending less time on essemgee
AHHHHH I'm busy! I'm working full time with no computer access, managing an active social media presence, working on "real" writing projects, tryna pull up my hemorrhaging positions, all while continuing my occult research and finding time to go to the gym! I'm sorry but I'm busy!

>>16326192
>active social media presence
heh, maybe I should start following you on twitter, I haven't checked in for a while.
Sounds like things are going pretty good for you except GEO, and you even managed to time CGC perfectly. I'm happy for you.
I'm not the populace though.

>>16326124
I meant, what are you going to do differently to try and make it back? I presume you're gonna stop trying to catch that falling knife. I keep thinking about how much I lost with DF (wiped out all my gains plus sent me red), but then I realized that it's over. It happened, and I can't change that. I still have 95% of my money in my account, so my objective now is to just close out the year a little bit green or at least neutral.

>>16326225
>I presume you're gonna stop trying to catch that falling knife.
Yes.

Let's say AMRN doesn't pass the FDA, will the stock freefall?

>>16326485
Like a rock.

But it could be a tremendous buying opportunity if it’s something silly the fda wants fixed and they meet later in the year to sort it out.

>>16326551
>But it could be a tremendous buying opportunity
why does this board believs so much in ARMRN?

>>16326600
I was actually thinking of a case earlier this year, I think it was called reph or something, where the mpanic sellers created a massive dip that was bought up over the course of months because the fda rejection was based on a change they wanted to the label, something like that.

The T-baby poster has been posting about AMRN all year, and now it’s finally past one of the hurdles and has major hype. That’s it.

wurtzite boron nitride support at 3100

>>16326551
This is why I’m hedged with $13 Jan puts - it costs barely anything and can save your ass if u got a big position. If the drop is a CLEAR OVERREACTION TO SOMETHING STUPID (like today’s completely ridiculous and unreasonable drop) then I can take the profits from my puts and put em into longer term calls.

If it’s all gonna come crashig down to truly $1 bil marketcap ($7 a share) for a company that will at a minimum be selling $3 bil a year (you see how stupid that analyst is now, right?), then I make a shitton of money.

I’m positioned on the upper side with calls ranging from $20-$27 with different dates. I got in at $15 so my premiums are gonna be pretty close to no loss even if this shit comes back down to the teens. I hedged my puts as a protection.

I think this starts driving up again tomorrow. Complete irrational fear brought on by an analyst with 3% returns and only 40% success rate. Ranked 1,600 out of 3,000 advisors. A true F-grade adviser.

>>16326663
I bought that REPH dip, that was a tasty one
I might still have some, even. I forget if Recro were the ones making non-opiate painkillers or if that was someone else

>>16326789
Nice, I’d like to see those trades
>>16326784
I’m not sure how to do this hedging with options thing, I assume buying put protection is just buying some puts on a position you’ve longed heavily. I dont know how I would begin to figure out what proportion of options I would need at which premium for it to make sense.

Also, it’s not all that unreasonable for a stock to dump after a pump like that, especially a small company with one drug where everything is riding in December’s meeting. Profit taking after a parabolic move is a reasonable thing to do.

Jesus what a boring ass day, just look at this depressing shit

>>16326868
Bought a bunch under $6, average was 7.37
Sold about half in the $9-$10 range. Still holding half of what I bought, price now is $17 so I'm up 130% since my last buy on March 25th :3
If I remember right, it was around that date that I had some options pop off around a fed statement and made a good bundle of money.
The good times...

>>16326981
In other news though, shorting BTC is fun. Let this shit die

help. the devil is tempting me again

>>16326663
>The T-baby poster has been posting about AMRN all year, and now it’s finally past one of the hurdles and has major hype. That’s it.
Has the ARMN run up finished?
Price prediction in the long run?
Is it Crispr a competitor?

>>16326065
i think i picked it up on Pixiv

>>16326981
sweden?

>>16327103
Yeah

No ones interested in that massive BMY candle?

>>16327088
Silly girl, she’ll warm up the beer faster that way!

>>16326663
>The T-baby poster has been posting about AMRN all year, and now it’s finally past one of the hurdles and has major hype. That’s it.
Has the ARMN run up finished?
Price prediction in the long run?
Is it Crispr a competitor?

>>16327147
I don’t know, I can’t say, and no.

how are my amrn chads holding up?

>China bats away rumors, says trade talks with United States continue.
>China says it will strive to reach phase one deal with United States.

Well that was fast, even with the hong kong bill happening which made them angry

>>16327263
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

schwab about to buy td

Buying bam and bip soon to go with my vanguards and bitcoins. Old ball and chain let me get away last weekend with Jeff. Love that bastard even though he likes em on the younger side

——————-

Ron

God bless our house
The lord is my shepherd and never shall I waver

I'VE SLAYED THOUSANDS, WHERE'S MY CARD ROBINHOOD? FUCKING SCAM.

>>16327206
Just gonna get a few hours sleep then watch the markets, you?

What’s up with Charles Schwab in talks with buying TD Ameritrade?

>>16327638
Charles Schwab is in talks to buy TD Ameritrade.

>>16327638
I heard they were in talks to buy TD Ameritrade

>>16327628
I’m getting sleepy too. I was gonna watch an in depth tour of jeffs fun island. Lol I’m sure I’ll forget it but it’s fun to think about

>>16327638
no price/share available, has mooned already

any SPLK investors here?

speaking of club of clubbed stocks, M and GPS earnings today

>>16325109
Ol Chuck is good man. Glad I have schwab.

>AMTD up 17% in premarket hours

>>16327679
Lucky man he was.

Ya know if my AMRN shares hit $50/$60 treat myself to a trap escort

>>16327682
Ah I see thanks fren. Was wondering if we could benefit trading wise

>>16327682
>>16327722
$26B, already has ap $26.4B mcap

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4308123-research-frontiers-rank-speculation-fascinating-product

New thread

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>>16325187
cafepharma?

>>16327123
yet she'll sell more of it!