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How did it get to this?
A 4chan meme is now worth $1,000,000,000 USD.

Chainlink competitors (oracles):
https://bandprotocol.com/ ~ marketcap $4.4 million: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/band-protocol/
https://mobius.network/; ~ marketcap $3.2M: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mobius/

Chainlink has limited to no revenue to date.

Investors are currently paying a 300x (30,000%) premium over competitors.
Generally, for a company that has monopolized it's industry, the risk ratio is justified, yet in this peculiar instance
investors are paying a massive premium for a company that no established marketshare with less than <100 active customers.

It's biggest claim to fame: "Swift Partnership on the horizon"... Never became a reality.
The shills constantly talked about Swift and how much token appreciation it would bring to the project.... well Swift is now developing their own oracle and the shills have gone quite on this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LINKTrader/comments/9r8l5n/so_what_happened_to_swift_partnership_chainlink/

The shills have moved on to EOY $1000 claims with no substance.
A $1000 LINK price would equate to a market cap of $349,783,945,220 ($349 billion USD) a feat not even Bitcoin has achieved and would put it's value close to JP Mogan Chase, one of the world's largest banks
with over 250,000 employees. Chainlink has two core employees, the rest are office shufflers.
The biggest thing to happen to LINK has been, wait for it.. A Google Cloud blog post.

colorsdontlie: "News outlet and journalists keep reporting on "partnerships" with Google and Swift. But if you actually read the source for the
"partnership", it's just a blog post by Google Cloud that promotes their own service (BigQuery) and shows an example about how Chainlink users
can use Google Cloud if they want. In no way is Google partnered or planning on using Chainlink themselves.."

>> No.16054781

Chainlink has zero true Fortune 500 partnerships.
If one can call it partnership, the biggest to date has simply been Oracle and Google allowing clients to use Chainlink as a tool provider.
This is akin to making a Chrome extension and calling it "Google partnership" or perhaps getting listed in the AppStore and claiming "Apple Partnership"

Sergey Nazarov Experience:
Sergey created Secure Asset Exchange. Less than 1 year later it shutdown with virtually no clients:
See: https://trade.secureae.com/
Archive History: https://web.archive.org/web/20160801000000*/https://trade.secureae.com/

His other startup "CryptoMail" never made it to public beta before it closed down.

This is their list of confirmed partnerships to date. Notice something? No true Fortune 500. They're all small time partnerships with crypto companies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LINKTrader/comments/9wnt57/chainlinks_confirmed_partnerships/

Everyone loves memes but sooner or later, fundamentals rule.
Remember Pepe Cash? It was worth $96,000,000 USD at one point. Now it's worth less than $4M.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/pepe-cash/

The team constantly dumps LINK tokens on new 4chan bagholders:
"According to etherscan data there have been 14 chunks of 700,000 Link sellings for a total of 9.8 million links so far, or an estimated $30 million."
"For some 40 days Chainlink seems to have been selling, by going through a small chain of addresses to end on Binance, this huge amount of funds."
https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/08/11/half-a-billion-wiped-out-as-chainlink-devs-dump

>> No.16054789

Then there's this....
"Researchers have published evidence of what they claim is a coordinated pump and dump manipulation involving the Chainlink (LINK) token."
"Pump and dump is the name given to a type of microcap fraud, in which the price of an asset — frequently one with low market capitalization and share volume — is manipulated by a coordinated rush of high-volume purchases by a group of actors working in complicity. "
https://cointelegraph.com/news/researchers-publish-evidence-of-chainlink-token-price-manipulation

The shills try to brush this off as non news worthy.
The report comes from AnChain.Ai, a Silicon Valley deep data analytics A.I firm which is used by some of the world's largest exchanges like Huobi, Coinbene, etc.
The exchanges would now be well aware of this report and it would be very ballsy of CoinBase & Binance to continue listing a PnD scheme in lieu of SEC enforcement actions.

Searching for Chainlink scam on Google returns thousands of results.
Just 2 examples.
"kevinpasta: They have been exposed already for volume fraud. And the founders are known scammers. They already put out 5 scams. This is just a money grab from ignorant investors."
"Whatevor1: It is 2019, the time to buy into any ICO is over. Chainlink is no exception. There are two people (!) that hold 65% of the total supply. They could sell at any moment, I'm not making this up, DYOR."

You can of course search Google for thousands more.

It is well known these shills coordinate their spamming activities via discord. To give illusion of popularity, the shills constantly "talk" to each other about Chainlink to make
the project appear more popular than it truly is. This activity would get shutdown or exposed on a platform like Reddit or Twitter but impossible on an "anonymous" 4chan forum where one
individual can use dozens of anonymous VPNs to appear like another unique "individual".

Did you buy Chainlink because it's truly revolutionary or did you fall for a 4chan spammer?

>> No.16054795

Calm down you coordinated tranny fudders. Enough with spam

>> No.16054823

>>16054778
India FUD detected

>> No.16054843

>>16054778
Pretty good fud compared to the crud we've been getting lately. Still not very good though.

>> No.16054849

Does anyone even read these posts?

>> No.16054855

If there was a way to short LINK it'd be worth $0 by now.

>> No.16054857

Didn’t read
Never selling

>> No.16054858

>>16054778
dr;ns

>> No.16054863

>>16054849
nope

>> No.16054868

>>16054849
Why is there such a coordinated effort to fud link here? We all know bizlets will never sell so what’s the point? It’s binary for us. $1000 or 0

>> No.16054869

>>16054855
you can short it on binance

>> No.16054873

THIS BOARD IS SPAMMED BY THESE LINK FAGS.

JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW THEY OPERATE.

BY SPAMMING EVERYONE TO DEATH.

SCAM VAPORWARE PROJECT

>> No.16054878

ohhh mein gott sirs this chainlink ,, this is just this big scams sir . big scams sergey is big scammer sir he dump 700k . did u see venture beat article ? scam scam .

>> No.16054882

>>16054869
How? asking for a friend

>> No.16054894

>>16054882
by opening a short contract on the link/usdt pair for example?
you can also short it on bitmax

>> No.16054901

>>16054868
which part? seems to be spot on

>> No.16054941

Why dont mods ban these pajeet fudders?

>> No.16054949
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16054949

chainlink is a scam, accept it your fucking retards.

>> No.16054965

>>16054941
>0
maybe they should ban the hundreds of chainlink spam posts that lands here daily.

>> No.16054985

>>16054894
>5
Thanks!

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>>16054849
>>16054868
pajeets want you to reinvest in their scam coin instead of sitting on link

>> No.16055027

>>16054995
Feel free to debunk/fact check all the points posted.

>> No.16055043

>>16055027
You just speculate. Wait for sergeys real annoucements about the project and stuff instead. Oh and u better own suicide stack while u do this.. atleast

>> No.16055052

>>16055027
How much are you being paid to post this copy paste post?

>> No.16055065

>>16054778
It's obviously a paid and coordinated shill team. The way they appeared on this board outta nowhere 2+ years ago was very inorganic. They managed to infiltrate the board culture and spread their scam with extreme diligence. They've obviously roped in some dumb believers too who do a lot of their shilling for them, but I have no doubt that at the core it's a paid shill team hired by Sergey, who has become a multimillionare through all these pump n dumps. He just made another cool $3m this weekend with a 1m token dump on Binance. He's a great conman, I'll give him that.

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16055068

Linkies are pathetic brainwashed weasels.

>> No.16055077

Didnt read, never fucking selling

>> No.16055089

I think I've been brainwashed to buy link but I might buy another 5k link before the announcement tomorrow,. which will probably be a nothing burger but ISDA will be something so I'm in for a few weeks at least

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16055111

>>16055065
Provided he supports Muslims he's okay. Can't wait for the middle east tour next year. Sergey will visit ISIS camps and give the same presentation

>> No.16055165

>>16055065
This.

He's offloaded over $70+ million through ICO raise and exchange dumps.

The shills use the same 'templated' language over and over.

it's always:
"never selling"
"$1000 EOY"

Whilst never addressing the real tech or fud behind the project. Every post is twisted to look like a major partnership is coming.

Nobody is using this trash.

>> No.16055180

>>16054868
considering the immense future value of link, big accumulators are very happy to shake out weak hands and dissuade new buyers so they can pick up more cheap link prior to mass adoption

>> No.16055192

>>16054868
more like a coordinated effort to shill

>> No.16055219

>>16055180
yeh yeh we all heard this bullshit mate.
there's no adoption.

>> No.16055248

>>16054894
Opening a short contract? What?

I've tried looking this up but I can't find anywhere re how to short on binance. Can anyone explain?

>> No.16055285

>>16054789
>>16054781
>>16054778

I agree with everything you posted. But guess what? None of that matters. Look at Tron during the bull run — people made millions off of a vapor ware pump and dump. Literally all a coin/token needs to get into the top 15 and thus be eligible for massive gains, is a coordinated 24/7 shill team, Twitter exposure, conference exposure, a “good idea”, and tons and tons of “partnership” shilling. That’s it. The buy pressure comes from the partnership announcements and the simplicity of the swing trading involved in LINK.

TLDR; agree that LINK is vaporware scam. But it doesn’t matter at all.

>> No.16055334

>>16054789
>Then there's this....
>"Researchers have published evidence of what they claim is a coordinated pump and dump manipulation involving the Chainlink (LINK) token."
>"Pump and dump is the name given to a type of microcap fraud, in which the price of an asset — frequently one with low market capitalization and share volume — is manipulated by a coordinated rush of high-volume purchases by a group of actors working in complicity. "
>https://cointelegraph.com/news/researchers-publish-evidence-of-chainlink-token-price-manipulation
Listen to Sergey weasel out of this when some reporter actually had the cojones to ask him about it. He blamed it on the "coinbase effect" lmao. You'll seldom see this interview posted here because the shill team would prefer to ignore it. Check 8:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulyI_K-TFDI

>> No.16055422

>>16055334
https://medium.com/@AnChain.AI/cryptocurrency-trading-investigation-market-manipulation-the-link-token-abcc3aa47567

> Even highly-reputable projects with entirely legitimate intentions can incur reputational damage at the hands of coordinated actors and highly concentrated crypto cabals.

Sergey has no control over exchange listings or the typical crypto manipulation by whales

>> No.16055517

>>16055422
of course not he only owns 65% of the supply

>> No.16055529

>>16055285
TRON didn't spam the boards on /biz/ nonstop. These linkie turds on the other hand did it at the expense of /biz/ community.

It's definitely a highly paid shill group behind it. Most groups who shill here at least have the decency to stick to a few threads. Link shills have bots that continually create new posts to ensure the threads remain on the frontpage.

It's pretty low and just shows they have no ethics at all.

>> No.16055530

>>16055422
Of course the paid shill would ignore the very next paragraph:
>The AnChain team’s recent analysis of the LINK token, inclusive of transactions between April 1, 2019 and July 26, 2019, revealed a pattern of suspicious activity that we believe to be indicative of a coordinated pump and dump manipulation.

>> No.16055665

>>16055530
of course you would insinuate with zero evidence that the team had anything to do with what is alleged by the article
>>16055517
yeah and it’s all easily traceable on etherscan

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16055667

>>16055248
>>16054985
>>16054882
Retards

>> No.16055675

>>16055529
were you even on /biz/? tron was every where....

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16055679

>>16054778
>Investors are currently paying a 300x (30,000%) premium over competitors.

>> No.16055681

>>16055111
Nice dubtrips but vishnu is in the blockchain and pregnant goats with sirfaggot is blasphemous

>> No.16056617
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16056617

Chainlink is a scam. Sergey had no success in America so he went to shill his trash in China. Big surprise, china pumps and Link is a useless meme coin left in the dust. Made a decent bit since ICO, wish I bought more, but I sold my stack recently and switched to more useful tokens. Only people left holding Link are dumb redditors that bought my bags

>> No.16056716

When the fud is this blatantly false it is easier to ignore. Nobody is gonna sell because they read a list of 100% verifiably false information and claims. You can do better than that.

>> No.16057221

>>16056716
nope, this fud is 100% accurate, it's actually the shills who constantly lie, just as you're doing now.

Name a single partnership that wasn't a lie and is actually using Chainlink now. Name a single dapp with users using Chainlink now.

You can't, there aren't any. ZERO. ZERO adoption.

The best Chainlink was able to do with their pathetic code and millions in budget is to get binance and coinmarketcap to run a node. Nodes which serve ZERO users.

Only a matter of time before normans actually realize this and exit Chainlink, which will lead to a price of 0.2 EOY2020

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>>16054778
>>16054781
>>16054789
>>16055027

>> No.16057265

>>16057221
Why 0.2? That still indicates it has value.

>> No.16057272

>>16057265
$200mil marketcap is about where a platform for centralized oracles with 0 users should be, which is what Chainlink is currently.

>> No.16057372

For someone who doesn't believe in chainlink, you sure know alot about chainlink. Do you always do this much research on projects you don't believe in?

>> No.16057386

>>16057272
Why is a platform for centralized oracles with 0 users worth anything, let alone 200 million?

>> No.16057390

>>16054778
Try harder faggot

>> No.16057431

>>16057386
because that's the way crypto marketcaps work, even worthless projects still have millions in marketcap. And Chainlink isn't fully worthless, just extremely overpriced, overhyped from fake partnerships and extremely centralized.

>> No.16057436

>>16057390
no, you try harder, he successfully BTFOed every linker on this board

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16057449

>>16054778
DR;NS

>> No.16057457

>>16057372
pathetic low IQ argument. how about you address the fud? Oh wait, you can't, because those are all undeniable facts, and you're too low IQ to form an argument, which makes sense after all, only someone with extremely low IQ would hold Chainlink.

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16057461

peepeepeepee poo poo peepeepoopopooopooo lalalalalalelelelelellelelelelelelelleel

nigger faggot nigger nigger buy link pee pee poo poo

>> No.16057466

>>16057449
Dump rapidly, Nazarov selling (his 650,000,000 tokens)?

>> No.16057478

>>16057457
>grr if you don’t spend your precious time addressing my bad faith gish gallop so I can ignore your rebuttal anyway, ur dumb

>> No.16057480

>>16054843
Who's going to believe some rando retard fud? Is he mentally ill spending this much time posting this shit?

>> No.16057488

>>16057449
don’t hurt nico

>> No.16057497

>>16057457
>5
They can't refute the claims so resort to name calling, e.g. "Try harder faggot"

Typically school yard bullies with low IQ.

>> No.16057507

>>16057478
lie, you don't, cause you can't. You're too low IQ, and also the fud are irrefutable facts.

>> No.16057545

>>16054778

Thank you for posting this kind anon. Link faggots need to lose all their money sooner rather than later so we can purge them from the board.

>> No.16057622

>>16054868

We are tired of the endless shilling and scamming.

>> No.16057674

>>16057221
There are dozens of real companies using Chainlink right now retard. Repeating your lies doesn't make them true

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>>16054778
Truth hurts Linkies.

>> No.16058441

>>16054778
>>16054781
>>16054789
As I finished reading this I realised how much effort you put into "debunking" the legitimacy of an ERC-20 token that you in most certainty think is a "SCAM". Thank you for letting us know, you must be really concerned about other anon's financial situation.

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>>16057254
Ho lee fuk Willy Honker

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>>16054778

>> No.16058734
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>>16054778

>> No.16058833

>>16057674
Name two, just two with links, no pun. You can’t. Every LINK holding faggot in this thread has done nothing but resort to memes and name calling. You keep saying it’s not true but nobody is in a hurry proving anyone wrong.

Which is exactly what you LINK scum would do if you could...rub it in everyone’s faces and spam it everywhere. None of you can provide shit.

>> No.16058873

>>16058833
>0
+1

>> No.16058950

>>16054778
chainlink is a scam

>> No.16058959

>>16054789
>>16054781
>>16054778

chainlink is a russian scam anon

>> No.16058985

>>16054778
>>16054781
>>16054789
>this obsessed

We get it anon, you have a massive crush on Sergey.

>> No.16058990

>>16058833
everyone knows chainlink is a scam, it is made by a philosophy major ffs

>> No.16059045

>>16055077
Checked
Dr;Nfs

>> No.16059108

>>16055077
>>16054857
>>16054849
>>16054858
Absolutely based and redpilled. Fuck off OP, sage

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16059674

>>16059108
Imagine reading this Reddit shit

>> No.16060041

>>16054778

Bless your heart OP. Thank you for giving us the truth. I hope Sergey gets hunted by NEETs.

>> No.16060060

>>16054778
band protocol has working product chain link is vapowear that never be in use by companie or tech firm

>> No.16060066

>>16056617
Yep

>> No.16060094

>>16059108

Did you fsggots finally organize on the discord? I cannot wait till the SEC investigation begins. You faggots are going down with him.

>> No.16060118

>>16057497
You're not from here are you.

Not selling. Once im rich im going to track you down and hire your mom to fuck me in front of you

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Chainlink is an irrelevant tech and nobody, I mean absolutely nobody needs the LINK token. (except Sirgay dumping on his fanboys)

>> No.16060157

>>16060094
You mean those fudding clowns and bots, yeah?

>> No.16060182

the whole community are millennial not understanding shit, chain sucking each other, get real stinkies

>> No.16060185

>>16054778
>>16054781
>>16054789
you might be on to something, but a decentralized oracle is a really good idea and i think it is going to be big. I also think that having multiple data sets to verify a smart contract is really smart - when combined with a consensus on the outcome of the smartcontract.

I don't know anything about mobius or bandprotocol, if their oracle-solution is identical to Chainlinks, then i might invest in them also (depending on how competent and trustworthy the team looks i.e. how white they are).

>> No.16060194

>>16060185
waaat ?

>> No.16060205

>>16054778
>Chainlink has limited to no revenue to date.
Yeah, like Bitcoin has.. retard.

>> No.16060283

>>16054778
Pajeet FUD

>> No.16060423

>>16060205
Bitcoin value proposition: Store of value, 21m, limited, deflationary.

Chainlink has very few.
The higher the coin price, the more expensive it is for companies to transact and do business.

There's no use case right now and if we were to assume there was, the competition is 300x cheaper. With real demand more competitors would enter the space. Chainlink has no stranglehold in the market. It's not Windows, Facebook or Apple where customers are locked into a platform and cannot leave. Chainlink is simply a oracle parser. It would be cheaper for a bank to hire a few devs to create a feed than to continually pay for a platform with rising costs.

Let us not forget it's yet another ERC-20 token confined to the Ethereum network.

>> No.16060562

>>16054849
Normies and redditors

>> No.16060699

>>16054789
I bought it because you're telling me not to

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>>16054778
>/mobius/
Mobiusgang wya?
*showers shit off

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DRNS

>> No.16060751

>>16058833

Bro, you are way too late to be fudding. Most of us with big stacks who dont lurk and post are unshakable. We did this debate and fud disproval soooo long ago. You are late buying and desperate to accumulate but what your doing doesnt work anymore. It used to but that period was over at least 1 year ago.
No ody replies because we literally disregard it. Its all bullshit. Would you argue with a sperg trying to prove the earth is flat with endless lists of logical, but complete bullshit? No. Lol.

>> No.16060785

>>16060751
how can it be bs if it's logical ?

>> No.16060811

>>16055027
Show us your buy orders, filled, for links competitors

We’ll wait

Sage

>> No.16060855

>>16054778

based and 100% true.

I've never bought LINK and never will. Your post is absolutely true an very pertinent, but one thing to bear in mind:

crypto as a market is irrational as fuck and has little grounding in sensible, conventional, methods of valuation.

Still, though, LINK is wayyyy overpriced rn.

>> No.16060861

>>16054778
LINK is a scam, you post made me open my eyes. I now realised it is not a good investment.

>> No.16060897

>>16060785

>humans cant see infrared
>therefore there are alien lifeforms around us all day but they are infared and we cant see them.

This is the type of logical bullshit that this new wave of fudders try use. It works only on retards. Anyone with any understanding of link doesnt even see it worth responding to

>> No.16060939

>>16054778
thanks for sharing your research op, thankfully i already sold my chainlink-tokens last week ( i made 40€ profit )

greeting from germany

>> No.16060960

>ChainLink: "Bunch of 4channers tried to force it as /ourcoin/, during the presale ico phase of chainlink there was a minimum requirement of 300eth to enter the presale. Bunch of anons pooled up together and shared presale links to fill them with their eth. Coin continued to get shilled and pumped up and hyped for the sibios event that link was attended, whole event turned out to be a flop chainlink had a presentation in a room of like 18 people next to the public toilets, literally no news or partnership came from the event and the coin dumped back to below ico prices and created 1000's of bagholder anons. Now during this alt bull run lots of anons and took advantage of this and shilling this coin to all the new money and newfags that joined in december and don't know this story. The coin is HEAVILY manipulated and the supply is dried up from huge whales who accumulated below ICO price to create a artificially lower supply (a lot like REQ) and these people have so much room to dump on all of you faggots to still be in profit when the time comes. In regards to actual project that chainlink aiming to achieve it's nothing more than a basic json parser for smart contracts, would take like a day to add to ethereum by itself.. literally making links whole concept pointless and definitely no need for a token. Would take a lot longer to get it working with bitcoin but the bitcoin core devs would be able to work out the solution a lot quicker than chainlink will, think that's something worth noting that literally nothing is completed and you're literally just buying a whitepaper, they have only 2 developers and they don't communicate at all with no proven background on either, in fact sergey was involved in a project before chainlink called NxT that he since been abandoned until it was took over by a new developer team"

>> No.16060983

>>16060423
>The higher the coin price, the more expensive it is for companies to transact and do business.
Wrong. Companies are always paying in fiat.

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people have posted chainlink fud here for 2 years. here's what you missed out on so far if you listened to them. this situation is no different today. chainlink fudposters are scum, simple as that

>> No.16061547

OP is pajeet who tries to FUD chainlink.

>> No.16061555

>>16061547
Yeah sorry, I'm out. First they couldn't even get 50. But that's beside the point. Just look at the list, it's a bunch of nobodies. Half of which look like basement dwellers creating their crypto webpage a few weeks ago. Find me ONE legit company on that list. There is none. It's a bunch of crypto nobodies serving as references for each-other with no tangible product or service. I'm out, this is pure hype that's got nothing to do with the real world.